What do you call two guys that were there when this happened? Back to return at Spurlock. Michael Spurlock of the cham He still the twenty, he said, the twenty five per thirty. Come a morning yearline. We see history, fifty forty, Come a third airline. Michael run, Michael run, Michael run. Such tops half a day. The hare you go in that shotgun sends we receivers left. Here's the staff of the glitcher has picked up Brady Unity fought ballpens.
He has the record at the eleven yard line. Mike Havins becomes the first NFL player from Italy history a record of thousand yards and bore in this first seventh season to want to throw VI brading. Congratulations Mike Kevins, who can forget I'm looking again, throws out the hats side already touchdownsam a day. Derek Brooks long spariotal player in the National Football League. There is Dot Daggers and
where you gonna win the Super Bowl? There's the snap my homes running to his right, and look out, he may run my home director bat and a snip Fox. We gotta beet the chief. We're the champions. Of the world. We still have. I'm at a clergy. Three to go, Devin White, great second season. That's HC Box on the Super Bowl Champs. They can't stop the clock. We call them the Salty Dogs. Hello and welcome everybody to our humble little podcast. I am Scott Smith and I am
Jeff Ryan, and our podcast is called the Salty Dogs. Yes, and we are the Salty Dogs. We are, and we're brought to you by Beeflow Bradies. Let me get this remember this time. I know, I know, I'm getting getting as happy. They are wings and beer, beers and wings. Nobody combines them like beefo Bradies. Start with the award winning traditional or boneless wings in a variety of sauces and dry rubs. And then next you've got to have your brew and beef has all your faves on tap.
Beeflow Bradies, where game time meets beer time and wing time all the time. Okay, dude, dude, dude, So you said to all the ships at sea. I heard that it's the telegraphs to all You said wings and beer, and then you said beers and wings. So you'd like in the second part of your suggesting that you would have multiple beers. Yes, there's always a plural. When you have beer, you don't go for You don't say, hey,
let's go for a beer. Would say that you don't really mean it though, well you could, but you usually don't. You're not hanging with me, all right. So this is a podcast where we talk about the Buccaneers primarily, and in a little bit we're going to have Pierre desire to see her on for us. I'm gonna ask him to pronounce his nature because I've heard a bunch of different interesting story. Looking forward to talking with him, right
and we will. We have ten minutes with him, so we're not gonna be able to break down all of it. But he has a very interesting story. He added, you know, he had obstacles, He had tough times in the life, in his life and his family's life, and he grew up in Haiti. I mean was born in Haiti, immigrated here dated four, ended up around St. Louis and some hard areas. His parents worked hard to get him out of there, and then he became a Him and his
wife became parents at the age of sixteen. Um which if you read about it, obviously that's gonna be tough, but it also brought a lot of love in their life too, considering he's what thirty two, so that he's got three kids. Yeah, and the one that was born first is her name is Keeley, and um, obviously the family they're in great shape now. But they had to work. He had to work very hard, his wife had to work very hard to get there. So we'll talk a
little bit about that. It's hard to cover in ten minutes, but just now, it's a guy with a very interesting backstory and a guy that made a really big play in the last game in his former NFL home. So when we're talking about that. But first, it seems weird whenever whenever we do this, sometimes we do it on Tuesday,
sometime on Wednesdays, sometimes Thursday. Whenever we do it on Thursday, it almost seems a little weird to talk about the last game because we've all kind of moved on from the total we're all just talking about everybody's just talking about the Falcons and the stretch on and kind of all to talk about the indie game was the last few days. But I still think we need to touch on some things. Yeah, go ahead, First of all, let
me hear what was your favorite thing the game? Um, Wow, there's so many to choose from, but I'm gonna say, uh, my favorite thing in the game was Scotty Miller. And the reason why is one he got the past interference call and then to the hustle on getting the muffed punt. I I thought, for someone who hasn't played in for a while to hustle like he did, I I enjoyed. Also, that's a new role for him, playing the gunner on
the left side on punts. And he was out there and he was consistently getting down the field quick, which is why you put him out there because of his speed, right, but the returns kept going in the other direction. But on this one he was down there so fast that he was right there when the guy off the pot. Yeah. And and the thing about this game you you can't you have a number of favorite things that you could
choose from. Leonard four Nette, Well, I'll give you another reason to be happy about Scotty, And um, I think my favorite thing about that game was in several key moments, how great our receivers are blocking, especially to Chris Godwin of course, but um there were some moments in that game where the blocking of our receivers was critical. One of them. Remember the third and eight play with Rob
Gronkowski and it was around midfield. Um. The pass was thrown out to him in the in the right flat, but he only maybe three hours past line scrimmage, so there was a lot of work still to be done for him to get the first down on third and eight. And he made in a great individual effort picking the right lane and twisting through some tackles and getting past the line. But I don't think he would have been
able to do it alone. Uh, Chris Godwin had a great block and Scotty Miller on which we expect to do. Scotty Miller got the biggest receiver, great block which created a lane for for Gronk to go through, and those two blocks were critical on a critical play on the Leonard four net game winning touchdown run UM. And I thought I liked the way Um Byron left talked about it.
Talked about it today. Byron said when he was on the headset, UH, after they called that plane right before the snap, he said, I think we might break this one, or I think this one might Gowards. You know, we were probably around the twenty eight. We were at the twenty eight. Were at the twenty eight, at which point it's a forty six year of field goal which Ryan suck Up probably gonna make, but you'd like to get closer to feel better about it, all right, So you
call runs, you're running down the clock and you're getting closer. Uh, and you probably think, you know, we're gonna get four or five yards, hopefully maybe more. But then he season goes, we might break this one. Sure enough, he breaks out in the open to the left and he gets around the corner. And Byron also said when he saw that it was Chris Godwin that was down the field blocking, he knew they were going to score because god was
such a good block. So if you've watched that play again, Uh, he comes, Leonard Ford comes barreling around the left end, starts up field. He's got a full head of steam and Godwin is blocking. Uh. Isaiah Rodgers, who whose game was not over at that point, there was still another big moment for him. But he's blocked him and blocked him at the last second. Rod just managed to like slide off of him and get in Leonard Foe's path and in retrospect, he probably wishes he hadn't because it's
like sliding over to take a charge. Here comes the truck. He had no chance. I don't know if there's a dB in the league who could have disengaged from block and seconds later stopped Leonard Fournet with a full head of team. The second best part about that play is that happened right in front of us down because we were so high. The press box is very high in that stadium, but that particular run was right where we were,
so we had a great view. But my other when you're talking about great blocks and everything, Donovan Smith took two guys out on that play, didn't He took two guys out on that play. And we had him after the game and we kind of brought it up and he was like, you know, TJ was like, I I think you took two guys out, and there was this pause and then Donovan go, yeah I did, and I and it was it was absolutely just opened it up. He took two guys. He took one out and then
came back and took the other. So you can't ask for more than that. Well, you know, the blocking is everything in in the run game. So there you go. We tend to go on tangents, so let's go on one right here, Smith, Um, I would say, and back me up if you think I'm right. That For the majority of Donovan Smith's career here, which began when he was a second round pick into if you think I'm that, usually most people say, you know, back me up if I'm wrong. But go ahead, No, yeah, go ahead, I
got you. I just like to tell you I didn't. I was gonna say back me up here, but you can't. I can't assume that you're going to agree with me. My My basic point was going to be that Donovan Smith trapped in the second round. He's been at the very least and there's it's a lot more than this. He's been an iron man at a critical position. He has locked down the left tackle position for almost every game and almost every snap over the last seven years.
Something like that. Now it's hard to believe. So I have this is the part I wanted to see, if you back me on. I have felt that his story for the majority of his career here has been that the opinion of him inside the building, coaches, personnel people is much higher than what he gets credit for in the outside world. Nope, there's been a lot of criticism earlier in his career out a lot of outside analysts felt he wasn't as good as we felt interior that
he was. Whoever was right back then. I think it's irrelevant now a mood point because and now I think he's playing at the highest level of his career and I think everybody is recognizing it for whatever reason. There's always some players that no matter what they do, they get dogged, and then there are other players that you know they're good, but they get so much more. Oh, the perception of them is and I don't I don't
understand it because, uh, Donovan is very personable individual. He's you know, out there in in the community all these things and is like you said, he's been an iron man and he's also been good. And now I think he's really good and you should vote for him. And the problems we stand it's still open right now. Oh yeah,
there's a lot of time to go. O. We stand out there on the edge of the practice field in the mornings, and the offensive line does their individual drools very close to where we are, and so they sometimes you know, jokingly say some things to media, but this yesterday they were all stumping for Dinovan Smith for the Pro Bowl. And they could do that for any guy. Obviously. I think there's a rising opinion that Ali Marpette and
Tristan Worths are Pro Bowl caliber players. So in our offensive line ranks first in the NFL in sacts allowed for past play, and so they're doing well. And here's the thing too, and I want your opinion on this. Uh, Tristan has just been phenomenal from day one, from day one. Now would he be that phenomenal if he had come in when Donovan came in and the old line was not totally there yet? Who knows? I don't know. You see what I'm saying is like sometimes you can come in.
I mean, don't get me wrong. He's very very good, He's great. I have a feeling he would have succeeded. Yeah, probably, but he maybe Donovan had to grow into it a little bit. And and like you said, there wasn't as much talent up front, and he and Ali were are he stepped into the starting lineup. That's what I'm about.
I'm sure they're better now than they were then. Um. Yeah, But in any case, I do feel like the public perception of donalson Donovan Smith this season, maybe last season, has caught up a little bit about how he's valued with how he's valued, and now you just have you can look at it and go. Tom Brady gets to play with two really good offensive tackles who were having great seasons. Yes, I'm totally bad and that player. You're never gonna get me to agree with you more than
right now. Well, part of it was where you agree with me that he was undappreciated or at least the perception of him was different, and I never understood, you know, and another guy that I thought also, you know when you say that there just seems to be like I thought, Gerald McCoy in his earlier years took a lot of heat even because I think what happens is you you are expected to replace someone and be Yeah, but he
also made like six Pro Bowls. Yeah yeah, but but but there were people out there who didn't think he was deserving and I always disagreed with that too. So hopefully, uh, we can get Donovan into the Pro Bowl. That would be nice. I think I think it would mean a lot to him because it's it's been like seven years. Yeah, um yeah. And the Pro Bowl voting right now, don't read too much into it. I think you've seen. It's
only the fan voting going on right now. If you don't know, the Pro Bowl players are chosen in what b A says as a flawed system. And I don't disagree with thirds, the third counting each of fan voting, coach voting, and player voting. And theoretically what happens is whatever the fan vote is creates a ballot that's you know, one ballot, and then each also for the coach and the players, and then they're merged. Last year, as an example,
we just looked at this today. Around this time, we had three guys that were leading their their spots in and voting among the fan votes. We had another one who was second, and then Jason Pierre Paul or a couple more than our second. And then Jason Pierre Paul was running third at his position. Well you know what happened only Jason Pierre Paul maybe bowl, So don't put much stock into that. Um, it is going to be now. And then the Buckaners won the Super Bowl and tied
the Giants of I don't remember which year. As the only teams to win the Super Bowl to have one or fewer Pro Bowlers, which was just an indication of how deep the town was and how underappreciated some of our guys. And and it'll be interesting to see now if they get that Super Bowl bump and guys that we're great players that were absolutely crucial to us winning the Super Bowl, like Ali mar Pett and all those offensive lineman and Devin White and Lavante David. Are they
going to get recognition this time around? Usually that's what happens. Usually it's the year previously. It was funny last year that Tom Brady didn't make the Pro Bowl after throwing fortydown passes, and his name is Tom Brady. I don't think it's gonna happen again. Well, it was at ninety nine the year that gosh, we sent like, I don't know, eight players was I mean, there is Trent, and there
is you know, Tony Mayberry. Guys that we sent ten one year I said, and I think we said eight and ninety seven when they we had to break through year Trent was on at that Trent Dilford, which which maybe this is the year that that happens and it could be, you know, would be nice, It would be you get some recognition. I totally it's the Pro Bowl
in Orlando, still, I think, so I can't happen. Last year I kind of checked out when they quit quitting it in Hawaii because I know I loved why you went to the Pro Bowl and you know how much fun that is. I know I did, like gosh, so um a little more from the Indie game. Um oh, maybe it's in Vegas. Really that because I've never been to Vegas. I think maybe they gave it. Maybe they I think I think they want to do it in Vegas. But you know that's that's horrible. We don't know where
the Pro Bowl. I got my computer right here. You want me to look it up? You use your little tiny computer there, So I'll talk about something while you're doing that. Um, Mike Edwards, as I said, that corner that got trucked by four net on the touchdown, his
name's Isaiah Rodgers. And that was not the end of his story for that night because with there were twenty seconds left on the clock and there you know, coach Arians brought up after the game that if he he kind of regretted not telling guys to kneel if they got near the end zone right taking e because for net put us up thirty at thirty one, but there was twenty seconds left. If you go down at the two, you can run the clock down to one second, pick
the field goal, and then there's the game's over. I get that, and I know that works time. It still would scare me because, like if he scores, we know we got the touchdown. If you make a kick a field goal, maybe there's a bad snap, maybe it slips through Bradley Pinion's fingers, so I'll take the touchdown. But in any case, twenty six left on the clock, they had one time out. They have to get a touchdown on a field goal. Obviously, do you already have the answer?
Do you want to let me know? Okay? Uh? I was right. So the Bucks probably don't have much to worry about. They've got to go the length of the field. And so Bradley Pinion had kicked every kickoff into the end zone, all for touchbacks in his first six which is what he usually does. Sure, he kicks this one four yards deep in the end zone, But because they had nothing to lose, they run it out and it's the same guy as they Rodgers on the return, and boy does he find a seam to the He does
a little counter. He starts a little bit to his right and encounters to the left and gets through a gap and then he's out on the open. We're all terrified, and uh, Mike Edwards was playing the They called the outside guys. You know, you got eleven guys lined up with the kicker into the old five on each side. They call the outside guys safeties on that in that
from kickoff coverage. So my Edwards is the safety on the left side are our left side, but the right side of the return team the return goes the other way. But as the guy on that side, your first job is to keep your lane and make sure you don't leave the end open. So if it reverses around your way, you're so he can't he can't start going over too soon. But then if he gets he's written down to about the their thirty when it's clear that the returns going the other way, so his best thing to do is
go in that direction. And then as he starts going horizontally across the field, Roger starts breaking through and so now Edwards changes his angle and is running back down towards the buck sideline, but at an angle that he hopes can intercept the guy. Right, because he got past every everybody else. Everybody else. Okay, Patrick O'Connor was coming in, but I don't think he could match the speed of
this guy. And Giovanni Bernard was a few steps behind, and Uh Edwards manages to make it there and actually almost overshoots it. The guy make a little move underneath them, but he grabs. He's able to grab him with his left arm as he goes by and spin him out
of bounds. Awesome play, right. I did some next Gin looking up on that to write an article about it, and Mike Edwards ran reached the top speed of twenty nine miles per hour on that play as he was pursuing the guy, and after the game, coach Arians just anecdotally had said that was the fastest Mike has run all year. I don't know if Bruce Arians knows about next Gen stats or cares about him, but but they proved he was right. I looked it up. That was
the fastest he has run at any point this season. Now, how fast was the returner running twenty one point three nine was his top, which was faster than Mike, but Mike at the end. So Mike, it's like you see the figures floating in front of your eyes and space. It's like you're a beautiful mind here. Um he so he um. I lost my trade thought. He also ran one point eight yards on the play because of all the looping around, farthest he's run on any play this season.
So to save the game, Mike Edwards had run farther and faster than he has at any point this season, and he did it. Were you just like shaking your head when it was going on? Well, to me, it was like in slow motion. I was in an elevator with a little TV in the corner, uh, and like what is going on? And Jeff, okay, so we're going down the elevator. We're getting you. As you said, the prespect was on the top level. Get on the elevator. And I don't where these guys came from because we
were already on the top level. But whatever, weren't we on the top Lew was one of bumps. We were on the top level anyway, I'm on the only thing higher than us were the girders I'm on the elevator writing down. There's about five people, most of the media, and there's a person running the elevator. And then there's this kind of uh, shady looking guy in a Colts jersey, skinny little guy, uh, you know, just looking a little shitty,
and he's having some kind of problem. He's wretching and he's coughing, and he's turning towards the back of the elevator and making a lot of really bad noises, and everybody's going, are you okay? Are you okay? I mean, it became pretty clear that he was just really drunk. And then he took a call and was like talking at a high volume of blah blah. I left to get the car, blah blah blah whatever, right, which is a scary thought. But um so, nobody's paying any attention
to TV. You're in a public elevator. No, the elevator down for me, but there were there were there were sweets around there too. It was probably something and had a few too many and was trying really hard not to throw up in the elevator, which I appreciated, succeeded. He got off on street level and then we continued down, But my point being that was distracting, and nobody was looking at the TV. And I look up and I see that guy run him. I'm trying to think, is
that a replay? Is that replay? Is that happening right now? And I realized it's happening right now, and I might be witnessing the most amazingly terrible moments since maybe Indianapolis in two thousand and three. An elevator and I'm in an elevator and I'm gonna get down the press box for I mean the press count's room expecting to have this happy press convarts. I'm have to sit down there during the overtime to see if we win or not. But fortunately Mike Edwards saved the day, and then Pierre,
who we talked to save the day. I was and I'm gonna ask him about this. I was scared. On both of those last two plays. They ran one play, there was a vote to David broke up with a nice play and covering Jack Doyle, and then they were intercepted it too. They were down to their last five or ten seconds at time for one play, and Carson wants to scrambles around and even though the play was from the thirty two. By the time he scrambles around, he's making a pretty deep throw, throws it up towards
Michael Pittman Jr. Son of former buckaneer Michael Pittman. And what you need to know about Michael Pittman is that he's very big, and he's very physical, and he's very good at jump balls. And we've got to jump all situation coming here, and Pierre Desier is there and he makes it happen and he managed to jump. What I'm thinking of both those plays, especially the second one, was
no dp I, no dp I, no DPI. Considering that there were a number of flags thrown for there were there was a very important one for the Bucks to actually so anyway, he didn't. He clearly didn't do anything that could have been considered past interference and the game was over. But that's what scared me, because you can't end the game him on a defensive penalty. So if he got dp I at the one, which is where he caught it, there would have been an untime down
from the two. Yeah, well, they kept Michael Pittman Jr. In check Considering that um Winfield Jr. Made an awesome awesome play. Michael Pittman is listed as six ft two or six ft four. I think Anton Winfield is five nine. Keep that in mind when you are pictures there. Well, there is a picture of of um of them together, and how high he's actually jumping compared to where where Pittman's feet are compared to Winfield Junior's feet is unbelieved. Pittman kind of lost the ball a little bit and
was trying to figure out where it was. And I don't think he even jumped. That's that is a hard catch.
I don't care the fact that he had his back to it and catch it over his shoulder like it was such good body control because he knew where the ball was and Pittman didn't, and he leaped up and he somehow kept his body off Pittman and just kind of reached over him crazy and snagged it and pauled it back down and landed and then was able to go from Yeah, both um, both Bruce Arians and somebody else that came in to the press conferences room after the game said it was one of the most amazing
picks they've ever seen. And then Rob Gronkowski and I like this. I like Rob Gronkowski without being asked. He was asked about Winfield, but not in this He said he thinks he's like the most underrated player on the team. I could, I could agree, I could. I think antoin Field's teams really value what he does. Well, you know, it's like what happens is when you do that stuff, it just becomes the norm. You know, it's crazy. I'm not saying it should lose the wile factor, but he's
pretty incredible. You know. He did a lot of that in college though, so maybe that's yeah, he would. He's internal for Magnet. Yeah, he's he should be a big play guy for us for a long time to go. Um. Weird thing from that game not not besides the elevator ride. So they were okay. Indianapolis was I think five of eleven on third downs, but they were all of five on five tries that needed five yards or on however may tries they had that needed five yards or less.
But they also converted four of them that needed ten or more yards. We were playing really good third down defense except when it was third and really long. I hated it because every time it was third and long, I'd think to myself, oh great. One was the scramble in this It's got when you're when you're rooting for the defense, it's gonna be one of the most frustrating
things to watch. When you've got them pinned third and long, you get a good pass rush, the coverage is good downfield, and the quarterback starts to run and then you look because you can see from up above, and you can go, oh man, there's nothing but open field in front of this guy. I mean, as soon as he broke out, you're like, here we go. There's no way we can
stop him. Don't make it. So that was disheartening. Uh, but there were a number of others that were just picking up blitzes and and making quick for and accurate throws by Carson went So I think that's the thing he did best in that game, was he made nice, accurate throws when he had to get rid of all question.
You know, it's funny as you're talking about this. Yesterday on the NFL network, the game ran again and so I watched it, and um, the more I was watching it, the more I was thinking, Wow, this Colts team is really really good. I thought they were good before, but after seeing them in person and then rewatching it. That's a good football team. That's that's quality win that they were good. They do in five of their last six. They just want to add Buffalo. How does that happen?
That we've been talking about this all year? You can't make sense of any of it. I think Tom Brady said it really well today during his press conference. He said the talent is so good in the NFL. Any team can win a game, but it's how you put it all together to keep winning winning well. He also said even a very talented team could go eight and eate. What you need in order to have a talented team but have a really good record by the end of
the year. Is everybody committing, all the players committing to each other. That's what he said. And who's gonna argue with Tom Brady? Well, that's what I'm saying. But it's like when he just said that, you know, a team could win on a you know, one game or and I think that's what we're seeing in in this year more than ever, is that teams bow up on one game and just really make it happen. Um. But hey, it was a quality win. I started to think the
team needed it. I think I think the Bucks needed to win like this against team It was a really it was kind of a weird game, don't forget. In Indianapolis didn't get a first down until two and a half minutes into the second quarter. Yeah, and then they put points on the board and they went nuts for like, they scored twenty one points in the third quarter. Uh. Somebody had looked up um. I can't remember who told
me this note yesterday. It was probably great alman um that in twenty two previous times when you we'd ever allowed one points in the second quarter, we lost all of Oh yeah, the first time we've ever overcome twenty points allowed in the second quarter, you know that. Don't forget also that the Colts. The Colts started the game their first drive on the Bucks thirty nine because of a bad offensive series and a penalty and a shankd punt, So they were on our thirty nine and they got
three points, no first down, three points. That's big. I mean, other than some third down plays that extended drives in a couple of fourth towns as well, the Bucks defense played pretty well. Yeah. I was having this discussion and even though the game wasn't going Uh, the way Buck fans would want it to. At no point did I think we were out of it or we were gonna lose the game for whatever reason. I just thought they're gonna come back. They're gonna come back. I don't know.
I was kind of uh, I was kind of fifty at half time. I didn't feel like the game was lost, But I think we can't really afford to keep making mistakes. I guess Leonard four Net just had a heck of a halftime speech. Yeah, that's right. He said he gave a half times. Yeah, and you know, I guess it's guys just stepping up when they need to and well, and you have to. I mean he got four touchdowns jeeze record right. So hey, Jeff, do you know that
was the third best Fantasy game ever by a Bucks player? Uh? No, I you know, if you bring up fantasy. After I was watching the NFL or Our game, I was finishing up in my office and I looked up and there's a fantasy show starting, and I was, you know what, you've been bad? Not bad? Well, yeah, I'm not a fan of fantasy. I don't, so I decided that I am going to watch this. I'm going to watch this program, and as I watched it, I'm thinking, why am I
watching this? It's people going, well, you know, I've got Tom Brady and I've got I'm going how hard is that? I mean, seriously, you're doing a full TV show and you're telling me like, perhaps you should have Tom Brady on your fantasy team. I don't need to watch that. I can figure that out on my own, so I'm not really I guess I don't. I'm going to try it, though, I really am. I don't know why, Well, because we
don't need your job. There must be something to it, and maybe it's like you know, I know people who it's like, it's like sweet potatoes. As a kid, I never ate sweet potatos. Added as an adult, I tried them and I went, wow, these are really good. So maybe I should try a fantasy to see I don't like sweet potatoes and I still don't like them. Okay, So I think next year I'm going to ask you to let me in one of your fantasy leagues and see what I can do. Well, yeah, I'd be happy
to play it. It's like when you it's like when somebody wants to join your game, and you know they've Yeah, you know, if I go by the color of the helmets and win, you will just be furious. Jeff, I don't like those shows either. I don't like pregame shows and a lot of fantasy shows. Um, strike me. You like the pregame show, you're on? Strike me. I have mem and TV shows oh yeah, strike me as um kind of pointless to watch because they're telling you who's
better this week. But you've drafted your team back in August, you have who you have, You're you're playing your guys that I would tell you the reason yet, And I don't do this type of fantasy football. It has no interest, does not interest me at all. And also as an INFO ploy employee, I'm not allowed to. You can play in a regular fantasy league, and I think as long as you don't have pads more than like that. So I can play. I'm allowed to without getting in trouble
with my job. I can play fantasy football. I cannot play daily fantasy and I don't want to play. But in daily fantasy football, each week you can choose whoever you want because in in a draft league, you draft your guys back in like August or and if you took Tom Brady. I can't take time because you've already got him. But in this these type of shows, they're telling you because of these factors, Dak Prescott's should be really good this week because these factors. Or they tell
you about injuries, you solved the mystery. Or they tell you, okay, your guy got hurt, Ceedee Lamb isn't gonna play this week. So is there another receiver I can use instead that wouldn't already be on the team, And they tell you who to look for. I told you you made everything. The light just went on in my head. Now I understood what they were talking about. I don't think you should enjoy it. But because I was thinking, well, you
drafted your players, why would you do? But I didn't realize there was well you do conceivably you have a you have a bench. So if you have two guys that you like and you can only start one tight end, they might tell you, hey, you start this guy. Sure, Okay, so alright, that makes sense, Okay, I get Yeah. So Doug Martin had a UM had the big day in Oakland. That's the best Fantasy day and team history with the
four touchdowns and two two or fifty yards. And then there's a Mike Evans game, maybe it was against Pittsburgh. Did Cadillac Williams Yeah, did Caddy have a great game in Minnesota? Yeah, but it wasn't one of our top ten fantasies. Uh, there's a Mike Evans game with three touchdowns on yards against somebody Pittsburgh that that second but any sure, that is definitely a tangent because I wasn't trying to talk about fantasy. We were talking about, um,
how great Leonard Fournette was. And also, and this is the second week in a row that this has happened, Rojo has looked good in the in the bits of time to these halts. I like how they're mixing it up now. I liked because they're different runners, they're different cell running so well, I think when Rojo gets in
the game, he runs hard. So if um, he's done really well, you know, he ends up with maybe thirty seven yards on five carriage or something, which doesn't blow you away when you look at the statue, but you're able to give Leonard to rest and Rojo still does a good job. And you know they gave the ball to Rojo once of the goal line and he punched it in. Leonard himself said after the game that about that that he said, yeah, I was fresher at the
end of the game. He's talking about the last run because they're being able to get Rojo involved in all right, So that's a good thing. Yes, I mean that's what you and I like what Bruce Arian said long ago. You can't have too many good running backs, so and in that instance, you you have to have at least two and two that you believe been and not just like, yeah, maybe we can go this way. I think I think
we're in good shape there. Yeah, there's gonna be some decisions to make at the end of this year, though, Josh, yeah, I'm not worried about the end of the year. Is Ronald Jones could have a big big They're all coming to the ends of their contracts. Do you have any Bernard, I yeah, I am. I read the I read the You're gonna see how I put this all together. I read the book Season in the Sun. I read that season.
This is Season in the Sun with Lars Anderson. It is the Bruce arians story about um Tom Brady coming to the Buccaneers in the Super Bowl year and having lived it. But in in there it talks about Leonard Fournette being cut. How how he drives in thinking it's a typical day at six thirty in the morning, walks in and gets cut by the by Jacksonville, has a number of different places to go, he chooses to come here.
He realizes he's not being the starter, little pouty. How Bruce Arian sits down with him, says, hey, we're gonna need you. Look what happens, and what makes me think about is that here's a team that gives up on a guy and he comes here and by coaching he develops a really great attitude. And you're now talking about we got some major decisions to make because at the end of this year he could he could go for a big contract, which it's your environment sometimes and not
just the player. So I thought that was read Season in the Sun by Lars Anderson. Did you read that in one weekend and it took less than two days. It's a fast read. Um, we need to move on. I think I got a few more notes on this shirt any game before we packed away from it. Um, because I want to talk a little bit about the
Panthers and the Saints too. One thing, um we're trying to I think the turning point in the game was the strip strip sack by Shack, who the way has more strip sacks since he got here than any other player in the least see and there's another play that. There are so many turning points, but that was that set the tone. So here's here's how I got the trifect. Here's how I look at the game. You mean he could force the phone, got the sack, force phone, cover
the phone. Buckaneers scored to make it seventeen fourteen. There's two there's there's like three minutes left. So that's good. I feel good considering how things were going. I feel good if we go into the halftime and that's when they put together that long drive that include several long throw dunk versions. It was weird, Jeff. That was basically a two minute drill that had fourteen plays. It was a four team play like two minute drive. That is weird.
When when that when that started, Jane made a comment that this two minutes could take ten minutes, and it did, and it did, and we we were like so mad at him. At half time, we told him, you cannot say that anymore. He was right. Yeah, So, uh, they's went down and scored on the fourth down play, and then I'm thinking, well, that's bad. Plus they get the ball to start and sure enough they're driving again. They're driving down the field. And then the other turnover, which
was who cost it? Levant they recovered it? Was it Mike Edwards? You mean punching the ball out? Yeah? Who? We were forced? Or was that the winfield interception? In any case, I should bring the game book with us. No, no, because it's four days. No, it's what I was just saying. It's the strip sack. So they have a chance to do the whole score at the end of the first half in the beginning of the second half, and if they had scored on that drive, it would have been
thirty one to fourteen. And then at that point you have to admit you would have been thinking it was a bad So the strip sacked by Shack stopped that, and then all the momentum switched and the Buccaneers finally find themselves up something yeah because it waste yeah, sow four and then we added a field goal, and then they had the game drive um and then we had disappointing when they had the game time. But I did look at the person next to me goes, well, hey,
there's three minutes left. It was like three minutes left. I think three or five minutes left. I'm like, that's all. As they were driving down, it kind of felt inevitable. Yeah, it felt like the previous long drive at to be at the end of the second half. So I'm like, man, I think, I just hope they get in score quickly. We still got three minutes and we've got Tom Brady get sure enough. That's what happened, with a little bit of extra tension at the end. Couple of um we
have only five. Now you've noticed, and we've talked about how the way defenses have been playing us, especially the last few weeks with so many two high safety shells. So the soft zones that we have adjusted by throwing just a lot of underneath passes, and it's working. It's working fine. We are not getting the opportunity. There's a lot of double coverage with the safety on Mike and Chris, especially Mike, and so we're not getting a lot of
opportunities to throw the ball down the field. We only have five completions of twenty or more yards in the last two games, four of them by Grock. How important hasn't been? Like Rock is back, We're a different team. If we had not had Rock to these last two games and the way the teams played us, we would have much bigger struggle trying to make it work this way.
He is the key to this offense against how difference does the team play with and then Sean Murphy bunting back in that has definitely helped, for sure, I mean it, But then Jamal went didn't danteam unfortunately. Day zero was everyone yeah they boy are are aren't? Yeah? It'll be nice when everybody's back, when everybody's back, and play like you think you're gonna play. During training, Carlton Davis said today he felt really confident that he'd be able to
play if they activate him. So that's good. He's on that twenty one day. Anthony Nelson has five quarterback hits in his last three games. I thought he had a good game. That's kind of you know, he doesn't get a ton of snap. So the five quarterback hits in the last three games, he had zero before that, and he's taking advantage of when he's in. He's coming up a little bit. And then Kevin Mentor looked good when he had to play for Devin White. He always does,
but I specifically was watching on someplace. Sony's doing a good job out there. All right, do you got anything more about that game? No? Yeah, we won. Let's talk just a little bit about um the ning. The only thing I gotta say about that game is that um, with all due respect, the press block food was a little issue, but that's a whole other story. And that wasn't that wasn't good. We're spoiled. I think the Bucks have ever Raymond James Stadium. It doesn't get any better
than that. Go ahead, UM, I want to talk about the NFC stut just a little bit before we get to our guests, because the buckanty. Okay, So when we lost at New Orleans, that was bad, and it made us tied with New Orleans for first and division. Didn't make us five and two five and two, and now we're tied with the Saints. And since then, the Saints have lost four in a row and they're going to take some hill now tonight to maybe see if they
can do something about that. And the Buccaneers have won three or So who do you were for as a Buck fan in case what tonight? Well, New Orleans Dallas. See, so they're gonna hear this after the game, but who should you have rooted rooted for for us between New Orleans and Dallas. I think I was actually thinking about this earlier, and I was I was glad I didn't have to write about it. I would just curious. I
think I want Dallas to win. First of all, what you can do in those situations before even trying to um figured out logically, just close your us for a second and just think, who do I want to see lose? Do do it emotionally? Oh? I want the Saints to lose, man, And I've hated the Cowboys my whole life, and the Cowboys are closer to the Bucks and the standings and the Saints out. The only reason why, the only reason why I want the Saints to lose is because we
beat Dallas. So if we get into a tiebreaker, we we we we we take care of that. If the Saints lose and the Bucks beat Atlanta, mathematically, it's getting to wear it's not over. The division is going to be very close to over before there is a scenario we can clitch within two weeks where you go, but it's out over yet. But if the Saints lose and the Bucks win, the Bucks have a four game lead in the division and with five to go, I mean,
I don't mind you. I'm not worried about Jinks and by saying, you've basically got it wrapped up and and then so then you come on, you've got wrapped up, dude. I remember nine and three Jon Gruden's last year. You know this is not that team. Okay, well that's true, that's true. But we I don't think Todd Bowls is going to leave or at least take the USC to fix a coordinator job in early December. Things are gonna
happen like that, Okay, Okay, I'm with you. So um So the point, well, it's taken, so you know you'll feel pre much. I'll feel like, yeah, you go strongly that you have a four game leave a five to go. Okay, so at that point, and if you don't, then you didn't deserve to be there. Anyways, at that point, you've locked up one of the top four seeds and a first game first round home game to get the possibility of a second home game. If you win the first one,
you got to me the second seed. Of course, the first one would be a bike. So what the Buccaneers will be fighting for will be to catch Green Bay Arizona. If they don't and the Cowboys catch them. All we're talking about is the difference between the third and the fourth seats. And you can't even tell me right now, you know which team you'd rather face in the first round of the playoffs. So at the moment, I don't see any particular value of the third seat over the
four seat. And like you said, we do have the tiebreaker in hand against the House, so Dallas doesn't scare me at all. Even if they pass us, they don't scare me. So therefore, logically and emotionally I want the Saints to lose, and by the time this is up we will know. But they're gonna They're apparently gonna start Taysom Hill. We'll see how that goes. They're owing four with Northwestern's finest Trevor Simeon, uh, and he had against US one three quarters with a good game, so uh.
And then you have Carolina um which is in shape ambles at the moment. He spent six million dollars for Superman and it's not going so well. Yes, so Cam Newton comes back. The first game he plays in, he doesn't start p J. Walker, He's the starter. They beat somebody know. They actually ended up losing the game Washington. No, they won the first game they played, um when Cam, when m came back, he had two big plays, a passing play and a running play, both for touchdown. Yeah,
but that's about all he played. Right, the next game he started, he played pretty well, but they lost to Washington. So now it's not like Cam's back. Even Cam is saying I'm back. And then this last week happens and he and Cam is back throwing picks and five and five two picks of pass rating of five point eight and its eventually got benched. Is that against the Dolphins? Yes, I believe it was a pretty good defense. Well, the Dolphins are now on a four game win Strey. Yeah,
they're on a roll. We caught them at the right time, did uh. So we have two games left against Carolina, So what you want is for them to be in shambles. Christian McCaffrey is now again out for the year. He has missed Like you know, I think he is such a great player and just gets it done when he can play. But he's a guy I can stay out the last two years beat up, Yeah, the last two years. So that that's what you wanted to be. And that's
right after they signed him to the huge contract. And anytime you signed a running back to a huge contract, there's a lot of people out there that say, I don't care how good he is, don't sign running backs to big contracts. They usually don't pay off. But you can understand because he was such a huge part of their offense. Yeah, and he was more than just a running back, I mean her He plays like the snaps and as the center of their offense. So it's understandable.
But this could be just another way of answering why you don't sign running backs to gigantic contracts because since he signed it, what's he played like ten games? Yeah, they all of a sudden, that whole that whole Yeah, I think in the last two years. I think it's it is something like that. So if you were them, if you were Carolina management right now and you could rewind,
would you still give him that contract? Well? Probably not, but but you have to go by his body of work, so I can I kind of go you know what. And you know, from a from a team that was not winning. From a marketing standpoint, he's a good guy to have on well. He's a great player, no no doubt. But one of the one of the abilities you need to really make a contract playoff availability is your best ability. It's one of the most important ones. I'm with you,
all right, Jeff. I think I'm good. If you want to move on to our interview, I do. I'm looking forward to talking. Yeah, he seems like a really smart dude from what I've seen him do interviews, um so and and and also I think he and he can tell us more specifically, but I think he does a decent amount of charitable work that has been um sort of prompted by these experiences he's had in his own life. So you're ready, let's do that part. Let's do it the Salty Dogs And we're back here on the Salty
Dogs Podcast. I'm Scott Smith and I am Jeff Ryan, and now we are joined by our special guest of the week, quarterback Pierre dis Here. And Pierre, as we said, all you guys who give us this time, we really appreciate it because we know how busy you are. Oh, no problem, man, thanks for having Well, we'll try to let our fans get a closer look at you as
a person in a minute. But we got to start with the pick man, the interception to seal the game, wild game in Indianapolis, and no, it's no small thing. That was the spot of probably the best part of your career so far. So just tell us what that felt like to get that pick, and especially Indianapolis. It was a great feeling, you know, um number one to finish out the game and come out with a victory.
But also just you know, getting that other spion and the place that you spent so much time and spend so much time there, made a lot of good friends. Um, I was able to really boost my career and you know,
take care of my family. So it just felt it just felt really good to be able to close it out, and especially in the you know what I was thinking, and it doesn't matter what I was thinking, but when that last play was being running and the ball goes up in here, I'm set up in the press by s going let's not get a d p I, No dp I does that even go in your head, are you trying to be extra careful not to do anything
that the respect throw flagon. This is just a normal play and at that point, the ball is in the year and you gotta really forget about the receiver and let's go for the ball. So that's that was my main focus, just to go for the ball. And you know, Pittman was on me. I was gonna try to make sure he didn't catch a knocking down. But my main
concernans is going up for the ball. You know, and every time a player goes back to where he wants played, we always wonder if if there's that extra little juice during the game. Was was that for you also? And and is it kind of like you get to say, you guys made a mistake. I'm still good. Yeah, you know what, you know, something to my uh my family
about that. You know those things that you know, you know those guys, you know those people you spend so much time there um and it just felt good to be able to go out there and play and play with a little bit extra juice because you went against those guys in practice before, you know, the coaches, so you kind to kind of have the idea of how
to play them. And you know, it's just one of those things like you know, for me, I won't take non personal personal as part of the business UM and I'll just do my job, go out there and uh, I did have a little bit extra juice, but make sure I did my job and tell my team in you ended up playing all but six snaps on defense. Jamale Dean went out early, and it's just yet another guy in your group having a bit of a mishap getting some unfortunate injury. Look, do you guys look around
it in this season? Go what more could happen? It's like every every week there's another quarter that getting hurt. You know, that's part of the National Football League. You know this as much as we uh take care of aboudies, you know, you never know, I mean, anything can happen. And we always have that next man up mentality UM in our on our team. So we all have to be ready. We all have to when we ever get called the bond, just go out there and execute. It
shouldn't be any fall off. And that's how we practice and that's how we play. And you know, if someone get centered or something like that, I get hurt. Um, there should be no fall off. Looking at the number of teams that you've been with. You you were drafted by Cleveland, and let me see if I get all these right. You learn in Seattle twice, you're in Cleveland, you're in Baltimore. You were with the Jets, and now you're with us. Correct I was, yeah, and I was
also with the Chargers. Well that's right, that's right, that's correct. After Cleveland you went to the Chargers. So you go to all these teams, you see how things are different. What is the first thing you do when you go to a new team. I think the first well, the first thing that I do is I want to show the guys and learn the respect. So I go out there, Um, you know, just just practice hard because I want you guys to see what I can do. And just just
make no excuses out there. Toroduce yourself. Um try to try to you know, be befriend a lot of the players and a lot of the coaches. But one the first thing for me to go out there, work hard and show my teammates that you know, I'm here to I'm here to work, I'm here to do whatever it's called upon me to do. So You've been to a number of teams, but you come to the Buccaneers and you were willing as a veteran, you were willing to
go on the practice squad. Where does that fortitude, I guess come from that you would be willing to go to the practice squad because a lot of guys wouldn't do that. For me, I love this game so much, and uh, I feel like I still have a couple of years to play. And you know, whenever I had the opportunity to come on the Bugs, um, I knew it wasn't gonna be as a active player and I
was gonna be on a practice squad. But I knew what this team I did last year, and I knew what they're camp be loved for many years to come, and I wanted to be a part of that. So the decision for me was I get to go out there and do what I love and playing with the great goog of guys. Here there's a you. As you know, obviously, there's a lot of different paths to the NFL. Some
of them are harder than others. And I don't think I'm saying anything people don't already know that you had to fight and work hard and get through a lot of obstacles to get here. Um, just for the fans that don't know, summarize a little bit of it. Born in Haiti, right, moved here at the age of four and ended up in St. Louis first and um became young parents at the age of sixteen. Went to a very small school in Kansas, which separate you from your family.
You've had to work a lot of jobs. Your wife's had to work love of jobs. Your parents have had to work love jobs. You have three kids. Now do you feel like all that hard work has really paid off and now you and your family are in a place where you all feel comfortable. Yeah, you know, I always look at it. You know, I don't look at
struggle at something negative. I always going to struggle at something that those those are character and there's those are better foundation for you for whenever future obstacles come, you're able to overcome them. And so I used everything every experience that I had in my past. Um, like you know, being an emigrant and born in uh I mean have being a team father, being a division to athletes, and I'm still able to a drafted are going on my
eighth year in the NFL. So I just I just, you know, use all the experiences I had, um, you know, growing up, and just use that to overcome every adversity that was facebook in my career. Okay, so you've done all of this and your children, though, are very fortunate because you are very successful. So how do you instill what you were instilled with on your values to them?
For me, I showed them. I always talked to them about the times before I got into the NFL, UM, and I make sure that they're involved in my community efforts UM, and make sure that they talked to my parents and to really get to understanding of how hard
it really was and how I was growing up to haiti. UM. So I do a lot of talking, but I showed them through my actions of how I'm in the community and showing them how other people UM have are a little bit less fortunate than them and still show them that they can overcome a lot, just a lot of hard work, UM in faith. So I talked to my
kids about it, UM. I give them examples and then UM also I also show them what I did and how my parents overcame a lot of absolute Do you want to tell us a little bit about what that troudable work is, the things that are important to you in community. Yeah. Absolutely for me. I have h nonprofit that I worked with, Contamartor's Feet. I've been working with them for over three years. We provide shoes for those of me, um I mean throughout the world. Um just
on my behalf. I've done uh some Uh, I've done some contributions and uh St Louis, New Jersey, Indianapolis Ums Foundation.
That's really close to my heart. You don't only just you know, give kids shoes, but it's it's the humility factor, you know, watch the kids feet and then I were able to uh you know, be a servant to the kids or or just the kids the adults and just really give back and learn more about them um a's and you know, share to work with giving back with backpacks and meals and anything that I can do that
can help. Because I've been in a lot of those people's situations growing up, so I know how important it is to use my platform to help others. I apologize, but I didn't catch the word before feet in the name of that program. Uh Samaritans Feet Samaritans. Okay, is there a web is there a website that that you can give us. Yeah, it's a just www dot Samaritan speed dot com. Um, that's uh, you can go on there.
You can you can easily look through all the the contributions that have done, my contributions and many other athletes as well. Um. And he has a very great organization. Um. They're doing very great things and I'm just happy to be able to partner with them. Jeff forgot less in a minute. Left, I know what else you want to ask? The only thing is if and is coming up? What do you see? You know, we see a team that has shifted, uh, and how they played a little bit. Um,
they play a little bit more aggressive. UM. So you know they beat They beat the Saints, the team that we lost too. So we know it's not gonna be easy game. And I feel like throughout the whole the whole year, as long as we do what we have to do, um, and we come on fire and come out on all the special teams, offensive defense, UM, we'll come out with a w here. Thank you very much for your time, thank you for sharing some of your story, and good luck this weekend in Atlanta. I appreciate you guys.
Thank you the Salt to It Dogs and We're back once again on the Salty Dogs podcast. I'm Scott Smith and we are the Salty Dogs and this is the part of the podcast where we answer your questions. And Jeff, I want to I think when I only got like two questions this week, which is a little disappointing. But I think part of the problem is I keep forgetting to tell them how to send us questions before we
get into the questions. Oh yeah, good call, you know, when you know, talking with Pierre and listening to some of the struggles and him having to tell his children, you know, because he is very successful. The question that that I brought up, how do you instill your children these values? And of course he tells him his his story and his grandparents, his parents story, their grandparents story. But it made me think and I and I was
gonna say it, but I held it back. I was going to say, um, oh, so in other words, when you tell the kids that you're walking uphill to and from school in the snow both ways, you know, you know, I remember your parents would always tell you how hard they added. He really did, He really did, and his parents did too, and so his parents actually are pretty good. As he talked about he says he has his kids
talk to his parents. That's pretty good because they can tell him directly, you know how what Pierre had to go through. And for a guy that's been on that many teams and have that great of an attitude, very impressed with him. I do think, Jeff, you asked him the question about being willing to go on a practice squad. Things have changed a little bit over the last two years because they've expanded those to sixteen and they have um and they've made six spots on there that you
can have veteran exceptions. You know, a guy like Peerterre would not have been a few years. Like. The money is different, though, is it not? Well, it's it's a decent amount. I think it's something like twelve thousand a week, which when you if you're un there for the whole season, it's pretty good salary. I'd like to make that twelve times eighteen. I don't make twelve times eighteen thousand or
eighteen times twelve thousand. I don't think i'd have to do the matter so anyway, um uh, but you get if you get up to the active roster obviously more especially if you're more of a veteran, because there are veterans that have would not go on the practice squad. Yeah, but you see a ton of them around here, I
mean around the league right now. You go onto any practice squad right now, and you'll see somebody you recognize, you know, like guys like Adrian Peterson go onto because know with the way things are going this season, and with the fact that you can get elevated from the practice squad, uh, and the fact that anything can happen and then you're right there. That's what happened to Pierre. I mean, we had all the injuries that he got
elevated twice. I liked his answer though, because he said he can see a lot where this team is that he wanted to be part of it. So I like that. So anyway, he Uh, I don't know where I was going without you're criticizing my question, but that's fine. Uh, you got a good answer, So there's nothing wrong with the question. I'm just saying I think you see a lot more established federals going on practice squads in the current climate, now that you bring it up. Yes, Uh.
The other thing that I wanted to do is UM. He was talking about his charity Samaritan that he works that does a lot of work with Samaritan's Feet, And if you want to check out their website, I'm looking at it right now. It's Samaritan's Feet dot org. And that is spelled s A M A r I T A N S f e e t dot org samaritanly, you know, like good Samaritans, Samaritan's Feet. So if you're interested in what he was talking about, you can check you can check it out. It does look like it's
a global charity. But what I'm seeing you did say that it serves. It says it serves. It's served eight eight point four million people's worldwide, hundred eight countries, four and fifty US cities volteers in the last eight years. We're doing a lot of good works. I like it. Another thing I'm gonna spell out here is that I don't think I've been doing a good job to tell
people how to send us questions. The best way is to um is to uh email us at Salty Dogs, which I'm gonna assume you know how to spell at Buccaneers dot NFL dot com. Maybe when you tweet out that we uh that hey and the new salty Dogs out there. When you do include it there too, you can go hey, if you have a question after listening to the Salty Dogs, here's You can also tweet at me and if you say, hey, this is for salty Dogs, I'll take it. Okay. They can do a direct message,
a little hashtag. Okay, oh I see hash bag. What you can't do you can't drink message on me on Twitter unless you're following each other. So but what are you? What are you? Scott? Scott s Bucks? I would guess that a majority of the people that would listen to this podcast probably also already know how to find me on Twitter. That's my guess, all right. Um, so I only have two and one of them and one of them of courses from our our buddy and uh and Brazil.
Yeah he's on a win streak. Yeah, Well, I think he figured out the pattern was he has to send us a question and it has to be have something to do with football if he does that, because he forgot one week and we lost, but then he remembered and we still lost. But the question wasn't about football, all right, So that's the place. So I'm kind of obligated to read a question sends every week. I wish you would, and of course I only got two this week anyway, So he's in luck, a hoy salty ones.
Hope this finds you both well, and this is all like every word is a sentence, like a period. What a game, a huge win, A team win with a capital W. I was, and I'm gonna just spoiler alert. If we didn't win, the letter would be w T spoiler alert. I did not try to research this question because it sounded hard. I didn't feel like doing it.
I was wondering, and I think Mr Smith is the right person to ask, when was the last time, if ever, that a winning team had six of its past yards and seventy of its rush yards condensed and just two players, And of course he's talking about Leonard Fournette and Rob Gronkowski. Gronkowski had a hundred twenty three siving yards. I think for net at one UM, you know, guys like Chris and Mike were only getting like thirty yards twenty five yards each, and then Leonard of course had the hundred
yards rushing. UM. But I don't actually think this is that was a particularly rare thing I've seen game. Yeah, I was just gonna say, I don't I don't even have to research that. I don't think it is. Yeah, That's why I didn't bother researching it because my um just basic memory and experienced. Tis me, that's maybe not the most common thing. But it's not that on one guy is a big game. It's a good question. Guys
have a big game. And in this case, it was basically we were taking what they were taken away our outside receivers. I was their point, right, So it was gonna be a big Lenny game and a big Ron game. Just was No, it's it's cam Brady had a couple of big catches. I'd like to see that continue, Yes, and a big and a good past interference. Um okay. So also in this email, he attached to photo and it was a photo that you and Dave and um and uh Gino took. It was like a selfie selfie
with the stadium in the background. You know. I was trying to figure that. No, after the game was over with, we we went into break and Day was like, hey, hey, let's get a picture. Let's get a picture, And I'm like, what what He goes, come on, come on, come on, and I and I guess he tweeted it out. It
was from Dave Moore Twitter. So Dave tweeted out the three person selfie of you and you were in the middle, and he says, I saw the attached photo on Dave Moore Twitter, and I mean this is we know this guy Andrew or Alexander is a big Bucks fan. But yeah, if you you know that whole me Mary is doing, tell me you're this without telling me you're this, tell me you're a Bucks fan without telling me you're a Bucks fan. I fellow Dave Moore on Twitter. Yeah, yeah,
that would be one. I saw the attached photo of day More on day Moore Twitter. I was curious if the person in the middle is the other salty dog I hear weekly during football. That is Jeff Ryan that and you know he's he's He's like me, well, he's more salt and pepper. I'm pretty much all salted at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, that's the guy. Did do you think his voice matches his visage A face for radio if you saw a podcasting, Yeah, you do.
You have you have the voice you were gifted with the voice. Okay, second question, ye old salty dogs Old. We're nearly two December now, so I think it's time to start talking about awards, as in which Bucks are going to win them? Pro Bowl. I'll prob m VP that kind of thing. Do any Bucks have a shot? I remember that Derek Brooks was the Defensive Player of the Year when we won the Super Bowl, But has any Buck ever won m v P or the other awards? Could Bruce be Coach of the Year if the Bucks
win another Super Bowl? I feel like there should be more individual awards on a team that is the defending champs and is once again one of the best teams in the league. What do you guys think? Thanks first time email center. You know, like people say first time caller Josh Cally, I think it's how I would be. It doesn't say where he's from, all right, So a couple of things here. Derek Brooks, yes, was Defensive Player
of the Year in O two. Warren stap also won that award in and Leroy Summon wonted in seventy nine, so we've actually won that award three times, which is pretty good. No Buccaneers ever won the m v P yeah, and so Tom Brady is in the running. He's probably in the top three or four, So that would be pretty exciting. I would be personally quite exciting. I don't think that winning another super Bowl would get it for Bruce.
It would be his third, which would be amazing, but um, and that's because these votes take place well before the super Bowl, so winning the super Bowl will not help him well. And I think the problem with Bruce is that, uh, you know, people are expecting this team to do it. It's not it's and that's that kind of that You're the unknown team that makes everybody You're the Cinderella team. The Coach of the Year award generally goes to the coach of a team who does a lot better than
people expected. Um, you know, and who would that be this year? Clicking, I was just gonna say Arizona right now? Yeah, Um, there's gotta be a better choice than that. Do you think, I mean, could they give it to Belichick again? Well, you know you have to. You know, they haven't lost since since they lost against US, is that right? I believe? So they're going like a six game wins, So I'm gonna have to look bad up. Look it up. It's crazy how well they're best. I didn't think it was that.
I think they won six in a row. It could be right though, Um so, I mean, now they lost to Dallas in weeks six, so they lost US beat Houston, big whoop, and then lost to Dallas. And then they've won one, two, three, four or five six, And there's a mix here, there's some They beat the Chargers, they beat the Browns, and they beat the Titans, all of which I would consider pretty quality teams. They also beat the Jets, the Panthers. I beat the crap out of
the Panthers. They beat the crap out of the Falcons too. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think of what coach Yeah, I would say, I would say, you know, if if the Browns were any good. Yeah, they've been disappointing, that could be a coach of the year Cincinnati teams that haven't been to the playoffs or or haven't been very successful. Right. So last year it was Kevin Savanski and they won eleven and five and we're a big story. Um two years.
I mean, this is kind of funny. In two thousand and eighteen, it was Matt Maggie, who's barely holding on too, because the Bears went twelve and four and they weren't expect to be that good. You know, Sean McVeigh wanted the year they went to the Super Bowl. Uh, that was a big turnaround for them. John Harbor wanted two years ago when they were fourteen and two. Um, yeah, you know it's Bruce arians wanted with the Cardinals in fourteen and then also with the Colts and twelve. Um,
so I don't know who who is it. Let's look at the standings real quick. Yeah, it was better than their I mean, New England's better than they were supposed to be. Yeah. Well let's see Tennessee Mike Vrabel. Yeah, except they're not they're not winning. Yeah, they need to turn it back around. And uh, even in Indianapolis. Indianapolis would have a shot at it. You know. Frank Adam I like Frank Rock. I think he's a good coach. I think he is too. I think there's six and six, Jeff,
I mean this is gonna be well. Yeah, they need to win a lot more. Um. I mean I think people were making fun of him before this year, but Zach Tyler's binkles are seven and four well that's you know, that's the kind of guy to give the war too. And also has Okay, so so far, um, what what's the record right now for the Packers? Right? Okay? So has he want to know who? What's his name? Um?
Matt Lafleur. Matt Lafleur has not won this award yet, and the Packers have gone and they and they won the m v P. The Packers are nine and three this year. Last year they were they were the number one seed at thirteen and three, and I think that was his second year and his first year they went and three. But at what point does this guy not winning? But his problem is he's winning during the regular season
and he's getting blown out. But the votes are before that, I understand, But because he gets blown out in the playoffs. They made it to the NFC Championship Game and lost by eight points. But they've lost twice in the NFC chap Okay, so let me tell you a couple of years ago, if somebody said, hey, the Bucks are going to go to the NFC Championship Game for the next two years but not making the Super Bowl, I would have felt pretty good about that. Yes, you would not
how it works. The point is to have your team in the dance this point, this is for them to get a shot. The Bucks got their shot on a wild card. Certainly weren't expected to win the Super Well, what they did. The point was to get your team there. And he's done it three years in a row. And I know he has the MVP on his team, but they have also overcome a lot of injuries. But if i'm voting, it's Matt, If i'm voting it's Bruce Arians,
but we're saying he doesn't have a shot. So if if it's not Bruce Arians, I'm voting, I'm voting Matt la Flora. I'm just saying the reason why he's not getting it is because and for whatever reason, if you know, just getting into the playoffs is only good for a small period of time. I don't know. Whatever you know, I don't. I'm not buying your argument. I gotta be honest with you. Well, look at different coaches that have all they did was go to the playoffs and then
get fired. So we can't. We can't get it. We're not gonna get Defensive Player of the Year. We're not gonna get either the rookie of the Year once that will go to the linebacker in Dallas and probably Mac Jones. UM's playing really well, we're not getting we could get m VP. We should have some Pro bowlers. We talked about that a little bit already. UM, I don't know what else there would be, so you know, on the coach probably unless the Bucks just go nuts down the
stretcher finish fifteen or fourteen three. And I like I like Tom Brady's thing though when when um Devin White did make the Pro Bowl and well, was all upset and he said, there are bigger things to win. And I think that's kind of the attitude of this team. Wow, there's a ding and he goes, oh, well, since this will be out by tomorrow. Is this what I think
it is? This is not good? Is this? This is the news that Antonio Brown, Mike Edwards, and a guy that's no longer with us, John Franklin, are all being suspended for three games for violation of COVID policies. Initial I'm not I'm we're not editorializing on this, soul, Jeff, because it's not It is not for us to speak for the team. But I will just read you what this says the National Football League announced today discipline three players for violating jointly developed and administered NFL n f
L p A COVID nineteen protocols. Tampa Bay's Antonio Brown and Mike Edwards have each been su ended without paying for the next three games. Free agent John Franklin, the third if sign back club, is also ineligible to play in the next three games. All three players have accepted the discipline and waive their right of appeal. The suspensions are effective immediately. All right, We're not gonna talk about that anymore. Uh, we were just reading the news. We
were about to wrap this up anyway. You will see, and we're hear plenty about those things anyway. You don't need us to talk about it. But in any case, we thanks to Pierre to here again for joining us. Thanks to all of you for listening. We appreciate that. We really like it when you send us in questions. And I just told you how so, if you made it this far into it, please send us some questions. Send us something fun. Ask Jeff if he wraps presents
and how good he has or what he wants for Christmas? Alright, my two front teeth, Hey, I want to say thanks again to Beef o Brady's. If you turned to this podcast, you got a couple of us that were the classics, like wings, nachos, angus Burger's beer. You just put them all together and you got Beef oh Brady's and coming up game time. Hungry for tellgating greatness, try Beefs to go our full on catering Beef O'bradies where game time
meets tailgating time every time since you did. Thanks for listen. M