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7-2-25 - 9am - Ryan Filling In - Denver Layoffs, Gabe Evans Highlights and De-transitioning

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Speaker 1

There. I have not been listening all morning, but I was wondering if you've heard of the so called poisoned pill that's in the Big Beautiful Bill that is going to stifle gambling, and a lot of people suspect that the Big Beautiful Bill will not pass.

Speaker 2

Have you heard of this the gambling part talkbacker than Ryan Schuling fill again for Michael Brown, by the way, in case you're just tuning in, I haven't heard that specific aspect of it, but for your listening pleasure, I do have a few highlights from my earlier conversation where

Representative Gabe Evans on Monday. Now, this is prior to passage in the Senate, but you're right, there are things that happen that get stripped or added, or this parliamentarian comes in and says, no, it's got to surpass a filibuster threshold of sixty because I said so, and I don't know if gambling was on the docket for that, Gabe would be much more tuned in.

Speaker 3

I can try to text.

Speaker 2

Him and get him an answer on that, and I'll do that during this segment and see if I'll give you an answer on the other side. But he did comment on the big beautiful bill coming back to the house, and I asked him specific questions about hey, you know what happens now and you'll hear that in just a little bit.

Speaker 3

You can also send your texts along in.

Speaker 2

Addition to the talkbacks and use the red microphone icon on the iHeart happ to do that at three three one zero three, one of our texts on this topic, and the goalposts seemed to be moving, if ever so slightly.

Speaker 3

Here. You know, you have this boondoggle investment.

Speaker 2

And I call that an investment loosely because what are you investing in of housing and feeding and providing for illegal aliens that are here in the homeless and these temporary housing shelters and Mike Johnston, Mayor of Denver, was shuttling people in for like a two week period. Then they go back out, and then what are they reformed? Do they suddenly get jobs? Are they off of drugs

and alcohol? You know, the real answer to this is reform, And the real answer to this, quite frankly, is not to roll out the red carpet and put on the vacancy sign for illegals to come here as a sanctuary, because you invite more of it when you tell them, hey, you're gonna get free stuff, We're gonna give you a home. And that's a bite that Dan plays often.

Speaker 3

On this program. We will give you a home. Hear that. Mayor Mike Johnson, he said that in his inauguration speech. Then you don't so.

Speaker 2

Much has solve the problem, as every illegal that you choose to house, now there's another one that's coming into the state because they want that same treatment, because they're going to get more and they're going to get better in Denver and Colorado. Then they're getting say in a

border town in Texas or in Florida. And if you're lucky, and I say that very sarcastically, the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, or the governor of Florida or On DeSantis may just bust some illegals to you because if you proclaim yourself as a sanctuary or wait, they don't use that anymore. Why why don't they use that anymore? No, we're a welcoming city. We're a welcoming state. Colorado. Jared Polus again with the gas light, and when we're not

a sanctuary state, we absolutely are a sanctuary state. So this is the root of all the problems. You cut that out of the budget and you balance the budget almost entirely. But instead we are cutting parks and rec services,

various other city services. We're looking for fire and police to trim their budgets and tighten their belts, and there are going to be massive layoffs, maybe rolling layoffs, maybe furloughs, et cetera, all because Mike Johnston has these spending priorities that focus on illegal aliens over.

Speaker 3

Actual Denver citizens.

Speaker 2

But let's see what Mark Salinger had to say, reporting for nine News along with our.

Speaker 3

Friend comrade Kyle Kyle Clark.

Speaker 4

Layoffs are coming for City of Denver employees as soon as one month from today, so pretty last minute for the city to be changing the rules on who gets fired first. Our Mark Salinger explains the new plan to prioritize performance and skills over years of service.

Speaker 5

Insert the word R after the word skills, strike colon.

Speaker 6

In a four hour meeting that would make most people's minds numb.

Speaker 5

Put a comma after length of service strike colon.

Speaker 7

A quick vote at the end could change a lot of lives.

Speaker 5

The motion passes with foreign favor and one of post any comments.

Speaker 6

The gears from the crowd of union members as the Career Service Board approves a change to how the City of Denver determines who is laid off first, as the city faces a two hundred and fifty million dollars shortfall over the next two years. Layoffs will now be determined based on performance, skills, ability, and length of service. Before, layoffs were only based on the time that someone had spent working for the city.

Speaker 7

I'm a fifty one year changed to a member.

Speaker 6

Ronnie Houston is retired now and represents the Teamsters. He argues the changes will push out city employees who've been there the longest.

Speaker 3

I don't want to be on some merit based system.

Speaker 7

I've given you my loyity, my trust, my love, my blood, my sweat, and my tears.

Speaker 3

And this is how you reward me.

Speaker 6

The city hasn't said how many people will be laid off starting in August, but they argue the new rule will allow them to retain the best employees regardless of how many people are fired.

Speaker 7

City council members don't see it that way.

Speaker 5

I think everyone rightly so is very concerned about how this is rolling out.

Speaker 6

Eleven of the thirteen members of Denver City Council sent a letter yesterday to the Career Service Board urging them not to pass the changes.

Speaker 7

The board passed them regardless. I'm concerned about agism claims.

Speaker 2

I'm concerned about retaliation complaints.

Speaker 6

Now we know the rules, but we still don't know how many people will lose their jobs.

Speaker 2

The mayor they come and go these workers, it's their career.

Speaker 6

Some city council members already growing concern that we're now one month away from when the layoffs are expected to begin, and we still don't know how many people will lose their jobs or where the cuts will be made. No word from the Mayor's office on when we might get that information. We do know that the job cuts will likely come through multiple rounds of layoffs.

Speaker 4

Kyle, I think people get that cuts are going to need to be made with the budget situation. I think people understand that there's different ways to go about it.

Speaker 3

This very last.

Speaker 4

Minute of like changing the rules midstream and not knowing who's.

Speaker 3

Going to get whacked where.

Speaker 6

That's tough, and there was the potential to even move it down a couple of weeks. They ended up voting on it today. But if we didn't get these changes. I mean you're pushing the boundaries really far. They were already talking in the meeting today about training managers on how to do layoffs and how to decide which person will be laid off again.

Speaker 7

This could start one month from today.

Speaker 2

Horrible mismanagement of the Denver City budget. And as bad as Handcock may have been, Johnston appears to be infinitely worse and not able to course correct and not able to acknowledge a mistake when you are funding a program for which there is no income coming in, When downtown businesses are shuttering and the sixteenth Street, oh don't say

them all, it's just sixteenth Street. There is not the bustling action that they were anticipating needing to happen there, to bring in tax revenue, a base of businesses, restaurants, stores, to be able to support what Denver needs to spend in its budget for again services employees. And now they are cutting off their nose despite their face, they have no means to support this ongoing program. Again, I call

it a boondoggle that is not an investment. It doesn't do Denver really any good other than to make you feel good about yourself in virtue signaling that you're housing these illegals or providing this ongoing, never ending welfare state for the homeless. Where is the income the revenue coming from to support that. It isn't there. And this Texter says the following, Ryan Denver, changing their layoff rules means

they'll be able to give preferential treatment to favored people. Probably, that's what a lot of the union leaders are saying. This is going to lend itself to subjective interpretation rather than objective interpretation.

Speaker 3

Meaning, if it's merit based, what are you basing the merit on? In Whose eyes? Is that merit based?

Speaker 2

And is there going to be kind of cronyism preferential treatment to favored people. I think that's a valid concern, Texter. I don't deny that whatsoever. This from the earlier clip of Jake Tapper again all these revelations that he's sharing with us after the fact, long long a year a year after the fact, and in his book with Alex Thompson,

he knew all this stuff way back then. He sent that message on his tablet or however to the producers during the debate, Dana Bash slips him a note saying he just lost the election about Joe Biden and his bumbling answer about getting rid of Medicare or beating it to death.

Speaker 3

And that's this Texter's point.

Speaker 2

Both moderators have such a dramatic reaction to the former president. They go on to say nothing after the bad debate night. They couldn't afford for him to lose, They couldn't afford to do actual reporting, journalisming truly be a person of the news and say, hey, Joe Biden's toast and Donald Trump's a dynamo. Jake Tapper gives up that information there, saying that he runs on some kind of energy.

Speaker 3

I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2

They weren't going to sing those praises or give that credit to Donald Trump in the midst.

Speaker 3

Of that campaign. And keep in mind that June.

Speaker 2

Twenty seventh debate, what happened shortly thereafter the assassination attempt in Butler, and then they really had a problem on their hands because Donald Trump emerged in that iconic photo hand in the air, fist in the air, fight, fight fight, blood coming down from his ear, American flag behind him, magazine cover, ready made to go, And I think time shied away from that because it was a touchdown. It

was a moment in American history. It made Trump look like the triumphant hero that many of us believe that he is. But we couldn't tell that to the American people, to the undecided voters in the great Middle. CNN had an agenda. They needed to preserve Joe Biden's candidacy for as long as he was in the race. They were going to prop him up, make excuses for him, downplay all the criticisms, gaslight people like Lara Trump saying, hey, we can see it with our own eyes. That's cognitive decline.

Anybody that's had a family member who's suffered through the throes of dementia or Alzheimer's knows what we were seeing. Myself included, I've watched it happen with my grandmother, my Serbian grandmother, forgetting who I was. That was a gradual process. The long goodbye Joe Biden is in the midst of that.

I'm not taking any pleasure in that, but I'm certainly taking a lot of frustration in the fact the media refused to report on that accurately, and they did so with intent, and Jake Tapper just proved it again right there again your text you can deliver those at three three one zero three.

Speaker 3

I mentioned before.

Speaker 2

I want to give you some highlights from my interview with Gabe Evans, because right now this bill is before him and the rest of the members of the US House and trying to get it across the finish line. Man to President Trump's desk, were hoping before Independence Day on the holiday. Here is my question to him on if there may be any deal breakers coming back from the Senate for him?

Speaker 3

Are there any no goes for you as.

Speaker 2

It pertains to anything that the Senate might add or subtract from the bill.

Speaker 8

Well, one of the big things to remember with the Senate is even though we have a majority in the Senate, we being Republicans, we don't have a filibuster proof majority. So we have fifty three votes on Senate, but you

need sixty to overcome the filibuster. And so the Senate parliamentarian is who's sitting there deciding, is you know, are these provisions that are in the bill either subject to the filibuster and therefore you need sixty votes to get it passed, or do these things pass under the rules of the Senate reconciliation process, and there they only need

a simple majority. And so we've seen some some provisions that unfortunately got stripped out by the Senate parliamentarian, specifically around states like Colorado that give taxpayer money to illegal immigrants. And so those are some of the things that the Senate Republicans are working for through trying to figure out how do they either add those back in in a way that passes that it's called the Bird rule, passes the burg rule, and therefore they can be passed with

a simple majority. And there's emotion that's actually happening right now. Right before I jumped on, I was watching this on social media. It sounds like there's a vote that's being forced right now by Republicans up or down vote that says, should we continue we being the federal government, should the federal government continue to subsidize taxpayer funded payments to states that give that tax payer money to legal immigrants.

Speaker 2

Representative Gabe Evans my conversation with him from Monday, And you know, this is a long process.

Speaker 3

It's a narrow majority.

Speaker 2

We've talked about that just there in the House and then even in the Senate.

Speaker 3

This is it is a difficult needle to thread.

Speaker 2

So if it does get to Donald Trump's desk, I asked him, you know who really is the driving force behind it? Should this get across the finish line? Gabe, and Caroline Lovett has already said, yeah, we expect that to happen by the Independence Day holiday, and President Trump has encouraged you guys to stay on the job and not take any time off, to not leave early on vacation.

Speaker 3

Let's get this through.

Speaker 2

We know Vice President Vance was able to lean on Senator Lisa Murkowski. Her vot's always kind of up for grabs. It seems like she might be a yes on this, at least she was to get it through to a vote through cloture, like you stated, and then coming back to the House with Speaker Johnson, you kind of briefly mentioned him and being able to pull this all together in the wake of a lot of people on the.

Speaker 3

Outside going, yeah, I don't know if that's.

Speaker 2

Going to happen, and yet he's getting it done, like you said five and oh on that front. So in your mind, should this all come together? And I think you and I are both confident that it will. Who deserves the most credit in making that happen.

Speaker 8

Oh, this is this is a team effort, you know. But if I was going to name any one particular name, you know, I would say that Speaker Johnson has been working on this for well over a year. The first time I met him, he believed, you know, firmly that God was going to give Republicans the House, the Senate,

and the presidency. And so since, like again, since the first time I met him, he's been talking about laying the groundwork to get something like this done in the event that Republicans, as they do now controlled the House, the Senate, and the presidency.

Speaker 2

Representative Gabe Evans a congressional district. He may represent many of you in our listening audience, and you should be thankful that he is instead of you do a caravel. My goodness, I just tried texting him. But I also noticed on Fox News that kat Camick is talking to Harris Faulkner and are members of the House right now that are taking up the Senate adjusted version of the

Big Beautiful Bill. And we've seen reports from both Speaker Mike Johnson and Steve Scalise that they plan on voting on it this morning.

Speaker 3

Well, this morning.

Speaker 2

There is now eleven twenty one am by the current time as I just look at the clock, and I don't know that they're going to get to a vote by this morning. Now, there are criticisms from within, there are criticisms from without on the big beautiful bill. Elon Musk most notable about those. He's threatened to start an entire new party in the wake of this. Gabe Evans's thoughts on that, how would you respond to those criticisms? Congressman Evans that this is a porculus package. There's too

many kind of carve outs, that sort of thing. We've talked a little bit about the salt exceptions for the big blue states like New York and California, for state and local taxes.

Speaker 3

How would you respond to that?

Speaker 8

So, if you use actual math to analyze this bill, at the very worst, this bill is deficit neutral. Best case scenario, this bill actually cuts about two trillion dollars in the federal deficit.

Speaker 3

And here's why.

Speaker 8

The federal deficit is really two things. It's how much revenue is the federal government bringing in, and then it's also how much spending is occurring. So this bill cuts spending, But the other thing that this bill does is because it cuts red tape and it lowers taxes, even though the government is taking in less money from each individual

person or business because taxes are getting cut. Turns out that actually turbo charges the economy, and so the GDP, the gross domestic product as a whole, grows and the government brings in more revenue even though across the board taxes are lower because of those pro business and pro growth policies. And so the problem with folks that say that this bill adds to the deficit is they are you using a one point eight percent annual growth factor

for the economy. If you go back and you look at history, the US has averaged between two and a half and three percent annual growth factor. And then when you have good, positive pro business policies like in this bill, we actually get closer to four percent. So if you just use the historical average for annual economic growth in

the United States, this bill is deficit neutral. If you get the turbocharged economy that we're all anticipating that we saw on Trump's first term when they cut taxes the first time, this bill is actually deficit reducing by a couple of trillion. Dollars. The problem is the official entity in Washington, DC that does that MATH is staffed significantly by either known registered Democrats or Democrat donors, and they're

not giving the MATH a fair shake. They're saying that the economy is going to grow at a slower rate because of all of these tax breaks, and we know that's just not what happens. You cut tax or you cut red cape, the economy grows. This bill actually is probably going to end up the deficit reducing.

Speaker 3

Treatment and care.

Speaker 2

And my skin crawls when they associate that with this gender reassignment frankin surgery, do you have that same reaction when you hear those buzzwords?

Speaker 9

We're exactly on the same page. What a euphemism. There is nothing caring about what they're doing. It is harm, it is mutilation, and it's not treating the underlying mental health symptoms, so it's also not treatment. And I shut it at the word gender. I mean, the whole firm gender affirming care is a euphemism. But to me, there are zero genders. There are two sexes, zero genders, and infinite personalities, and we need to stop using their language.

Speaker 2

Always well spoken on the topic, Aaron Lee. Just a short while ago, after SCOTUS affirm Tennessee's ability to limit this so called gender affirming care transsurgeries performed on kids, Tennessee decided to outlaw that, and as a through the federalism that we enjoy, Scotis decided that states are free to make those decisions. That was big, and we've been

building momentum in this fight to protect kids. And one of those who experienced this firsthand is our next guest, Simon A. Maya Price, diagnosed with gender dysphoria at fourteen, socially transitioned at sixteen, but then returned to living, as he puts it, to his natal sex, the sex that

he was born into, that body that he has. And he's one of the organizers of a protest at three hospitals being investigated by the FBI for child gender mutilation, including Children's Colorado Aurora Campus from eleven am to one pm. Entirely peaceful, not mostly peaceful, entirely peaceful for those two hours eleven am to one pm, mountain time out on the sidewalk next to the main entrance sign. And Simon is one of the main organizers of that event as well.

Speaker 3

Simon, welcome, Hey, thanks for having me. Now.

Speaker 2

I bullet pointed your story, but I'd like you to kind of go into more depth, if you would, for our listening audience, and just exactly what happened with you, your state of mind, your confusion, and then what brought you back.

Speaker 10

Well, it's a long story, but I'll try to make it pretty brief. So, growing up, I was a bit unusual. I had undiagnosed autism. I was a little bit gender non conforming. In seventh and eighth grade, I received a lot of homophobic bullying. It was called the esther on

a daily basis. One kid threatened to kill me. Actually, in ninth grade, I transferred to a new school, and at this school I learned about the gender unicorn in health class and this is a this is a graphic which presents gender identity, gender expression, and sex as three different spectrums and you get to choose where you are right And that same full I lost my friend group, and then a week later I was sexually assaulted by an older boy, which then led me to seek help

at Boston Children's Hospital, where I saw a therapist. After joining my schools, what was then called J Street alliance. I learned about this thing called gender dysphoria, and I learned that there was a concrete set of steps to take to remediate my issue. So I came out as transgender to my therapist at Boston Children's and she immediately affirmed me. When I was fourteen years old, I remember

see sitting in my pediatrician's office. I told my pediatrician that I was feeling these dysphoric feelings, and he asked my father, who was refusing to take me to the gender clinic, would you like a dead son or a living daughter.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I've heard that phrase before. Aaron Lee, who I know you probably have crossed paths with. That's exactly what they told her about her daughter. Would you rather have a living son or a dead daughter? And it's this language, and it's how I began the segment there in my conversation with Aaron Lee. They tried to manipulate this language gender affirming care.

Speaker 3

Well.

Speaker 2

To me, simon, what gender affirming care would have been in your case was to affirm the gender that you were born into, your actual sexual identity, and to take the steps through counseling, which is fine.

Speaker 3

People experience genders for you.

Speaker 2

It's a real thing, but rather than force you into transition and all the complications that go with that, can maybe reel it back in a little bit. Okay, let's slow down, let's talk this through. Do you think that approach would have been effective in your case?

Speaker 10

And to a certain extent it was. I'm very lucky to have a well read, statistically educated, and strong father who basically shouted my pediatrician out of the room when he said this. He actually quit a year later, and my father found me a new therapist out of private practice. And I can't tell you his name because here in Massachusetts where I'm from, it's against the law to do

anything but affirm a transgendered identified child's gender. And with this therapist, and with my life experiences, I was able to reintegrate with my boss body through exercise and processing really the trauma of the homophobic bullying I had experienced in middle school. And let me tell you this, a lot of people don't realize this, but it was easier for me to live socially in my generation as a transgender woman than it was for me to live as a biosexual young man.

Speaker 3

Simon and Maya Price our guest, your father's a hero. By the way, Simon.

Speaker 2

The thing that I always come back to in this and it's grooming. It's what it is in the pediatric field, be it counseling, therapy, what have you? You mentioned the law in Massachusetts, Well, guess what, that's the same law that's here in Colorado. My point would be the following,

just from an objective, left brain perspective. If this is so great, if it's such a phenomenal idea, why do therapists have to be bullied into submission, going you can only affirm a gender change rather than go into it eyes wide open, full.

Speaker 3

Menu of options and go, well.

Speaker 2

You could keep your gender and be gay, or be bisexual like you, Simon, or you could transition. But let's walk through those options and find the one that's best for you.

Speaker 3

Why won't they approach it that way?

Speaker 7

Again?

Speaker 10

It comes down to this core lie, this idea that you will either transition or die. And let me be clear, I really started to believe that. I believed I wouldn't be alive today because my father refused to let me transition medically. I really believe that lie. And so mobs like that start to make sense when you believe that you're saving children's lives. It's a short put to morality. It is a thought terminating.

Speaker 3

Cliche, Simon. Finally, what is your relationship like with your father today?

Speaker 10

I had an argument with him today about tax structures, but we're very close. He's one of my best friends in the whole world. And while I hated him for many years when I was transgender identified, I am going to be eternally grateful for the man that he is and the dad that he has been in my life.

Speaker 2

Well, it just sounds like a great man, Simon. I tell you what he loves you. You know that, Simon Amya Price our guest, and again, the Aurora protest is scheduled from eleven am to one pm on the sidewalk outside the main entrance sign I guess final things, Simon. For those that are interested in participating or finding out more, where can they go and what the should they do?

Speaker 8

So?

Speaker 10

I would advise we're going to issue a press release to reach out to the people listed on the press release. You can reach out to me directly on Twitter at Simon Amaya Price, which is s I M N A M A y A p R I c e send me a direct message and I'll get you connected with the right people.

Speaker 2

Simon, appreciate you being a pinch hitter today. I know you were not originally scheduled Jamie Reid was, but really appreciate your time and you sharing your story with us today.

Speaker 10

Of course, thanks for having me, all.

Speaker 2

Right, Simon A Maya Price one of the leaders in this movement to fight against the gender transitioning of children, and especially the physical surgeries and the hormone therapy so called, and the puberty blockers and all of these things that pose great health risks long term to young people. These are decisions they should not be forced into be making. And this key point once again that Simon made, and it's in Massachusetts and it's here in Colorado, is a nope,

you declare you the opposite gender. There's only affirming that choice. There's no questioning it. There's no presenting options, there's no off ramp. That is child abuse.

Speaker 3

Time out. We're back, Ryan Schuling in for Michael Brown on the situation. Brian, don't listen to these guys. I'd rather have you on there than any other guest host.

Speaker 2

At least I can talk honestly with you and you have some common sense.

Speaker 3

Some of these guys you have on there are just in their own little.

Speaker 2

World, so keep kicking butt and Dragon you could actually host the show as well.

Speaker 3

Thanks by Oh.

Speaker 2

Dragon deserves a lot of the credit, and I have to assure you I am in my own little world, definitely in my own mind. I think Kelly would agree with that, but appreciate those kind words. Talkbacker.

Speaker 3

I actually agree with the talkback. Dragon could probably. I think that needs to happen at some point, haven't it really does.

Speaker 11

I'll take the occasional taxpayer relief shots. I don't know if I want a whole show or a whole hour or anything, but yeah.

Speaker 2

I think okay, let's let's walk through that one a little bit. If you were to individually produce, let's say a standalone segment kind of like Jesse Thomas does for the Rockies broadcast in the pregame, you do that package of taxpayer relief shots. I think you could do that thread those together, offer a little commentary in between smart ALKI comments, right, oh, totally, yeah, I want to hear that. I don't you do enough work. I get it, but I would like to hear that.

Speaker 11

Does a fine enough job doing taxpayer release shots. But pretty much after he hears that's a pretty get good tech me of reach out right there, a little sling blade and then moves on to nice one yet and those at the cops.

Speaker 3

That's what you get, DRT get right there.

Speaker 7

I just got reminded that we're going to miss that on Friday.

Speaker 3

Are you going to do it Thursday?

Speaker 7

No?

Speaker 3

Oh, absolutely not. He says, Okay, well.

Speaker 2

Maybe change it up. Maybe Dragon does it. I like that idea, and I like that the talkbacker brought it up. I love this text. Very kind of you. I appreciate it.

Speaker 3

Ryan. Please pass on to Simon.

Speaker 2

May God bless him and keep him safe from all harm, both physically and spiritually. Sounds like his father is a true hero who saved Simon's life.

Speaker 3

Good for both of them.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that was a really compelling conversation and how he described his relationship with his dad, that they'd argued about tax structure or something, so, you know, just having a normal one having that kind of interaction.

Speaker 3

I would love to meet his father.

Speaker 2

And you're right, he did save Simon's life, and I think Simon would say exactly that, because you go through everybody goes through a youthful experience that's challenging, troubling in some way at some time. It go back and watch The Breakfast Club another reference to that program today, that movie.

But if you notice, like even the popular girl Claire Molly Ringwold, she has some problems, you would assume that the misfits, the outcasts, like Ally Sheety's character has problems, or that John Bender, coming from a broken home where his dad was abusive describes that has problems. But then there's the pressure as well on Emilio Estevez and his character to succeed. You got a win. It's such a

well done movie. And then Brian, you know, this academic nerd, but there's a lot of pressure on him, and then he almost killed himself with a flare gun and that was a light moment it turned into But the more I think about it, Kelly, this is the coming of age movie of course for you are my generation gen X, but really a lot of depth to that movie, and it's all set in that one central setting of the high school. I don't know is that John Hughes's best Do you think the Breakfast Club?

Speaker 6

Oh?

Speaker 7

Yes, well that's one of my son's favorite movies see.

Speaker 2

And that it translates to a new generation the gen Z's and Trevor that speaks volumes about.

Speaker 3

It as well Sherman High school Sherman, Illinois. Date and time.

Speaker 2

Yes, it's not over forty years ago that the movie takes place. But if you haven't watched in a while, I would recommend going back and watching it because it really it hits home.

Speaker 3

It strikes a chord. I think it's heartfelt.

Speaker 2

Does Barry Manilow know that you'll raise his wardrobe? Not even close? Bud oh Nelson's so good in that this one leaves a lot to be desired. I know you're not, Michael All. This wordplay is for homosexual abomination. The true word for it is well, the R word. I don't I don't feel like saying that one today. And that one in regard to that, you know, to each his or her own. I happen to think that embracing a person being born homosexual, which is a fact, you can't pray the gay away.

Speaker 3

And I tell this little story. I think Kelly's heard this story.

Speaker 2

So I go to visit my aunt and uncle Pat and Bato in Longwood, Florida, just outside of Orlando. And my cousin Nick, So I'm the oldest on this side grandchild, and he was the youngest. I was born in nineteen seventy four. He was born in eighty seven, so it's like nineteen ninety one. So he's all a four years old, maybe five. And I remember he didn't want to do anything outside with my uncle Bato and me. Uncle Boto's like, you know, stud great athlete. We played tennis. He's fifty

years old, still beating me. I was very young and in my athletic prime. He was a specimen for sure. You know, go to Orlando, Magic game, takes me to Hooters. All the waitresses are hitting on him rather than the other way around. Like this guy's awesome. Nick, my cousin wanted nothing to do with that. Then he wanted to show me his collection of beanie babies. But ye have for you know, four or five years old whatever, And

I'm not making a judgment yet, not yet. And he had the beanie babies and the you know, stuff like that, and then I asked him, well, Nick, what's your favorite color? And without hesitation, he was parawinkle. And I just knew at that moment Nick might be different, and it's okay that he's different, but he might be different.

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I go home. You know, I'm what seventeen eighteen years old?

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Mom? I think Nick's gage. Oh don't you say that. You don't know that, You can't know that he's only four or five. I'm like, I kind of think he is. Flash forward about twenty years.

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Guess what.

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Cousin Ryan was right, nailed it, And that's all to say. Would you this whole cryptic myth that's just dark of would you rather have a dead son or a living daughter to a biological male child? Get out of here with that crap, you know. Quagmire probably said it best. There was an episode of Family Guy in which his dad decided he was going to be transgender and become a woman and tells the story about, oh, he's not gay, he's transgender, and then Kragmire just sick. Oh, just be gay.

That's the shortest path here, I think for many who feel confused, and it can be confusing being gay because you don't feel you don't fit in. But sometimes you're just gay and that's okay. Can't pray the gay away, but gay is okay, And that's where just where I coming down that I've been on that square for many years. I'm a very big fan supporter of the Log Cabin Republicans here in Colorado, and I'm very good friends with

their former president, Valdemar Archoletta, who is gay. We joke about that went to a Rockies game, his favorite Michael Tobley and he's just got called back up to the major leagues. Which there's a Rockies joke in there, but we'll leave it alone for now. Looking at three three one zero three, final thoughts, where did Kelly go?

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Dragon?

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Kelly's doing Kelly things. She just wanders around finding another mimosa.

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I know you're not Michael, but you're soft. You gotta be tough like Michael. I'm gonna go here. What Glenn Beck's up to? Jeez, tough crowd. Well, on that note, appreciate you letting me hang around for these last several hours. I'll be back with you later on today on my

own program, Ryan Shuling Live. You can hear week days right here on six point thirty k How from two to four pm, also known as the Dan Kaplis Pregame Show, which is being hosted one more time today by Wild County Sheriff Steve Rings appreciate.

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All the time you've given me.

Speaker 2

Jimmy Sangenberger will be filling in for Michael tomorrow again. Salute to Michael Brown, wishing him the best. Have a happy Independence Day everyone,

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