In the first episode of IA on AI , John Thomason joins Trent to talk about one of the biggest questions in the audit world right now: Is AI Taking Over Audit Jobs? They break down: What AI can and can’t do (yet) in audit How the role of the auditor might shift Why this isn’t just about losing jobs — it’s about changing how we work They also touch on what to expect from the show going forward and why internal auditors should want to stay in the AI conversation. Be sure to follow us on our social ...
Jul 01, 2025•19 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Kevin Ryan, former Chief Risk Review Officer and General Auditor at KeyBank, where he spent 38 years—15 of those in audit leadership. In this episode, Kevin reflects on the importance of relationships and shares how he was able to gain the ear of the CEO, something many auditors strive for. He also offers a personal story that would serve as a lesson in office politics, and answers the question: if his audit care...
Jun 24, 2025•30 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Mike Jenkins, former VP of Internal Audit at Facebook, Gap, and Included Health, and former Director of Financial Audit at Google. Since retiring, Mike has embraced a new chapter—as an artist. In this episode, he shares how creativity has always been a superpower for him, both in his art and throughout his audit career. Mike reflects on what he's learned over the years, offers advice for today’s audit professiona...
Jun 17, 2025•41 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Dale Jeanes, former General Auditor (CAE) at Truist , where he spent an impressive 34 years. Dale now leads Jeanes Professional Development , where he coaches internal audit, risk management, and finance professionals. In this episode, Dale joins the show to reflect on his career and his current work as a coach. He shares practical advice for professionals in the field, how to maintain integrity as auditors, and ...
Jun 10, 2025•41 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re kicking off our Retired CAE Summer Series with Bob Brewer, former Chief Audit Executive at Las Vegas Sands and former Chief Compliance Officer at Office Depot. With almost two years of retirement under his belt, Bob joins the show to reflect on his career from a fresh perspective. In this episode, he shares what he would do differently if he had the chance to start over, the political lessons he learned as a full-time executive, and the one thing he wishes e...
Jun 09, 2025•36 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re kicking off our Retired CAE Summer Series with Bob Brewer, former Chief Audit Executive at Las Vegas Sands and former Chief Compliance Officer at Office Depot. With almost two years of retirement under his belt, Bob joins the show to reflect on his career from a fresh perspective. In this episode, he shares what he would do differently if he had the chance to start over, the political lessons he learned as a full-time executive, and the one thing he wishes e...
Jun 03, 2025•36 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Shagen Ganason, Group Chief Auditor, and Chief Audit Executive at Liva Group . In this episode, Shagen shares the inspiration behind his new book, The Storyteller’s Ledger , and why he believes storytelling is one of the most powerful tools internal auditors can develop. From rethinking traditional audit reports to presenting to the board, Shagen offers a practical framework for transforming audit communication—complete with templates, examples, an...
May 27, 2025•38 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Beth Womersley, Head of Assurance & Advisory Services at Universal Destination & Experiences . Beth shares her experience launching and leading ERM programs across multiple organizations. As internal audit teams take on more ERM responsibilities, she shares tips on where to start, how to get support from leadership, and what frameworks to consider. Be sure to connect with Beth on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media ...
May 20, 2025•34 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Nancy Yuen, Financial Data and VP of SOX Governance at SoFi . In this episode, Nancy shares how emotional intelligence has been a driving force behind her career success—from her early days at KPMG to leadership roles at Clorox, Google, and now SoFi. Nancy realized she needed to intentionally build her emotional intelligence in order to thrive professionally. She opens up about that journey, how developing strong communication skills transformed he...
May 13, 2025•36 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Chris Denver, former CAE and IIA Chicago President. In this episode, Chris walks us through the forward-looking staffing model he’s developed—one that balances internal talent with digital tools and trusted external partners to create a more flexible, future-ready audit function. He shares how this hybrid approach not only drives efficiency but also helps his team stay responsive in a constantly changing business environment. Also, be sure to follo...
May 06, 2025•26 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’ve gathered the best moments from our conversations with Agentic AI experts—featuring standout insights from Charles King, John Thompson, and Andrew Clark. AI Agent Governance: A Field Guide Be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn , Instagram , and TikTok . Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel . Timecodes: 4:46- Charles King: Understanding th...
Apr 29, 2025•22 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Rob Clark Jr., Chief Auditing and Compliance Officer at Howard University . In this episode, Rob breaks down the one skill that separates good auditors from great ones: communication. He pulls back the curtain on how he preps, practices, and performs, whether it’s a team meeting, a presentation, or a high-stakes conversation. Be sure to connect with Rob on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn , Instagram...
Apr 28, 2025•54 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Mark Freeman, Head of Internal Audit at Vermeer Corporation . In this episode, Mark shares insights from a recent CAE roundtable, where recruitment, audit committee metrics, and Copilot use cases topped the agenda. He also walks us through how he rebuilt internal audit’s reputation at Vermeer after stepping into a challenging environment. Plus, he gives us a look at the actual metrics he shares with his audit committee—offering a practical starting...
Apr 15, 2025•43 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Taylor Meadows, Founder and CEO of Change Captain . In this episode, Taylor shares his journey from manually managing IT change controls to founding Change Captain, a software solution that streamlines change management and R&D tax credit processes. We touch on organizations handle code changes, the risks involved, and how automation is revolutionizing compliance. Be sure to connect with Taylor on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new...
Apr 08, 2025•24 min
We've tested Notebook LM again, an AI tool that transforms written articles into podcast episodes using artificially generated voices. This time, we used an article by Monica Royal, founder of Nerd Nourishment. Monica attended the Mini Spring Audit Analytics and AI Conference and shared her key takeaways in a LinkedIn article. We uploaded her piece to Notebook LM, and the result is an unedited, AI-generated podcast episode. Be sure to read Monica’s article and to connect with her on LinkedIn. Al...
Mar 31, 2025•14 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by we’re joined by David Hill, Managing Director of HillAudit Training Ltd . In this episode, David challenges the idea that stability equals security and internal audit. He explores how budget cuts, resistance to change, and outdated processes can lead to disengagement—hurting recruitment, retention, and audit effectiveness. He also shares strategies to combat stagnation, from fostering innovation to leveraging AI and analytics for efficiency. Be sur...
Mar 25, 2025•29 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Andrew Clark, Co-Founder and CTO of Monitaur. In this episode, Andrew shares his unique perspective on agentic AI, challenging common assumptions about what AI agents actually are. He explores the marketing problem with AI and agents, why agents might not be what we think, and the governance challenges that come with them. Be sure to connect with Andrew on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn , Instagram...
Mar 19, 2025•45 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Ishan Kunkur, Digital Analytics Program Manager at Delta Air Lines. In this episode, Ishan shares how his team has embedded analytics into the audit process—from upskilling auditors with Power Query and Power BI training to automating SOX control testing, saving 360 hours annually. He explains how they evolved from performing analytics for audits to enabling auditors with data-driven tools, ultimately expanding into SOX automation and GRC dashboard...
Mar 11, 2025•39 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Courtney Dal Col, Director of Risk Advisory at Clearsulting . In this episode, we talk about the role of SOX in big business changes and why it often gets overlooked. Courtney shares how to make sure SOX is part of the process from the start, helping to avoid last-minute problems. She also explains why SOX is more than just a compliance task, how AI and automation are shaping its future, and what to expect from new regulations. Be sure to connect w...
Mar 04, 2025•31 min
This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Eric Wilson, Director of Internal Audit & Chief Audit Executive of Gulfport Energy Corporation. In this episode, we discuss how to build an effective audit committee dashboard. Eric explains how he created a Power BI dashboard that connects to his audit management system. This tool helps track progress, highlight issues, and answer important questions before they arise. Eric shares the key benefits of using this dashboard to improve decision-ma...
Feb 25, 2025•51 min
This week’s episode, we're joined by Marc Tasse, MBA Program Director at the University of Ottawa. He also serves on the audit committee for the Ontario Treasury Board Secretariat and Public Safety Canada. In this episode, he discusses whether people truly respect internal controls—from the board level to the first line—and the balance between repetitional and financial risk. Marc also shares the most important tasks for an audit committee member, the common challenges they face, and how interna...
Feb 18, 2025•23 min
This week’s episode, we're joined by the Grant Thornton risk and advisory team—Andres Castañeda, Jaynitsa Paul, and EJ Jimenez. In this episode, they explain their article Risk Management: Get Your Three Lines in Order in simple terms. They clear up common misunderstandings about the first, second, and third lines of defense in risk management. They also give real examples of when the system works well and when it fails—and why that matters. Check out their article, and connect with Andres , Jay...
Feb 11, 2025•46 min
Trent’s AuditBoard Webinar - Up Next for Internal Audit: AI Agents This week, Trent answers common questions about agentic AI from his recent AuditBoard webinar. In this episode, he explains how agents are changing audit and analytics—not by taking jobs, but by creating new opportunities. He breaks down the differences between agents and traditional analytics, showing how agents can adapt and handle failures smoothly. He also discusses why internal audit should be part of the AI/agentic AI gover...
Feb 04, 2025•29 min
This week’s episode, we're joined by David Dufek, Chief Internal Auditor at Principal Financial Group . In this episode, David explains how to carry out a clear and effective risk assessment, making it easier to identify and prioritize potential risks. He also talks about the importance of aligning your audit work with the organization's main goals, so your efforts deliver real value. Finally, David outlines simple steps to create a focused and practical audit plan that fits your team’s needs an...
Jan 28, 2025•36 min
Trent’s AuditBoard Webinar - Up Next for Internal Audit: AI Agents This week, Trent explains how AI Agents are set to transform internal audit. On January 22nd, he will host a webinar with AuditBoard to discuss generative AI for internal auditors, breaking down what AI Agents are and how they work. These agents handle tasks like analyzing data, writing reports, and reviewing findings, making audits faster and more efficient. If you’re involved in SOX or similar work, this could be a game-changer...
Jan 21, 2025•4 min
This week’s episode, we're joined by John Thompson, Global AI Leader at EY . In this episode, John explains how AI, especially agents, will shape the future of businesses and internal audit teams. He identifies 2025 and 2026 as pivotal years for agent technology and the tools that will emerge from it. Be sure to connect with John on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn , Instagram , and TikTok . Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter...
Jan 14, 2025•29 min
This week’s episode, we're joined by Charles King, Internal Controls Leader in AI at KPMG US . In this episode, Charles brings a unique perspective as both an AI expert and an audit professional, He looks back on key moments from 2024, talks about where organizations are on the maturity model, and unpacks the biggest topic of 2025: agents. Charles does a fantastic job breaking down what agents are and what they mean for audit professionals. Be sure to connect with Charles on LinkedIn. Also, be s...
Jan 07, 2025•42 min
This week’s episode features highlights from previous episodes, showcasing the best advice on AI. This episode features insights from industry leaders: Badal Patel explores AI tools in the audit process, Ben Phillips discusses AI and inflation, Julio Tirado emphasizes responsible AI, Michael Pellet explains why all auditors should be data experts (but not necessarily AI specialists), and Richard Chambers shares how to use ChatGPT to optimize workflows. Be sure to connect with Badal , Ben , Julio...
Dec 31, 2024•28 min
This week’s episode, we're joined by Haim Halpern, Co-Founder & CEO of Datricks . In this episode, Haim shares his experience in finance, auditing, compliance, and cybersecurity. He talks about trends in analytics and AI for internal audit, the value of real-time risk detection, and how Datricks helps organizations stay ready for audits. Haim also gives advice to aspiring audit executives and explains his passion for helping companies manage risk. Be sure to connect with Haim on LinkedIn. Al...
Dec 17, 2024•40 min
This week, we’re testing an exciting new AI tool called Notebook LM. This tool takes written articles, processes the data, and turns them into podcasts with artificially generated voices. We decided to try it out using an article by Monica Royal, founder of Nerd Nourishment. Monika attended the 2024 Audit Analytics and AI Conference and wrote a great LinkedIn article about her key takeaways. We uploaded her article to Notebook LM, and the result is an unedited, AI-generated podcast episode. If y...
Dec 10, 2024•11 min
