In this episode of Deep Specialization , host Corey Quinn sits down with Ned McPherson, Chief Growth Officer at Power Digital and founder of Endrock Growth and Analytics. Ned shares how he turned a side hustle into a 120-employee agency, scaled it organically through conversion rate optimization (CRO), and sold it to a private equity-backed firm in just four years. Discover the secrets to his rapid growth—zero salespeople, 100% referrals, and a laser focus on delivering results. Ned also r...
Mar 05, 2025•41 min•Transcript available on Metacast Struggling to scale your agency and get ahead of your competition? In this episode, Corey welcomes Jacob Baadsgaard, Founder and CEO of Disruptive Advertising and Disruptive University, to break down his strategies for building and scaling a high-performing marketing agency. Jake shares how a strong sales strategy, smarter hiring practices, and a greater focus on clients helped Disruptive Advertising become a leading agency in the marketing world. Stop wasting your budget on strategies that aren...
Feb 26, 2025•52 min•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode, Corey chats with Brandon Wheeler, Founder/President at Marketing Six, about how he helped build Scorpion into a dominant force in legal marketing before stepping away to forge his own path. Brandon shares the lessons he learned scaling a niche agency, the challenges of hiring and leading a sales team, and the strategies that drive long-term client relationships. He also opens up about balancing work and family and why true success goes beyond financial gain. If you want to grow ...
Feb 19, 2025•52 min•Transcript available on Metacast Sick of burning out with little growth to show for it? In this episode, Corey welcomes Steve Guberman, an agency coach and Founder of Agency Outsight, to find out what it takes to build and scale a sustainable, thriving agency without burning out. Steve shares wisdom from his journey through the agency world and the hard-earned lessons that shaped his approach to leadership, specialization, and long-term success. From niching down to leveraging AI and mastering delegation, Steve breaks down the ...
Feb 12, 2025•50 min•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode, Corey chats with Stephen Reinstein, Founder & CEO of Market Muscles, about how he scaled his niche web design agency to serve 700+ martial arts and dance studios. Stephen reveals how he built a customer-centric product tailored to his industry and the strategies behind his success—from leveraging trade shows and joint ventures to hiring for empathy and creating a standout sales experience. If you want to grow a deeply specialized agency and build a product clients love, this...
Jan 31, 2025•50 min•Transcript available on Metacast Over the years, The Deep Specialization TM Podcast has featured incredible guests and groundbreaking strategies that have helped thousands of agency owners niche down, specialize, and scale their businesses. Today, we’re showcasing the best of the best—the 3 most popular episodes of all time! These episodes deeply resonated with our audience, delivering timeless insights and actionable advice for agency owners looking to stand out in their industry. This episode is perfect for agency owners, ent...
Jan 15, 2025•17 min•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode, Corey speaks with Todd Taskey, an investment banker with over 20 years of experience specializing in agency M&A transactions. Todd shares invaluable insights about how modern agency transactions work and why vertical specialization can lead to better valuations and opportunities. Episode Highlights: Why traditional "exit and earn-out" deals are being replaced How vertical specialists often command more attention from buyers than generalist agencies The critical metrics buyer...
Jan 08, 2025•37 min•Transcript available on Metacast Struggling to scale your vertically positioned digital marketing agency? Finding it hard to stand out in a crowded market and attract premium clients? There’s a better way to grow your business - and it starts with building a strong foundation of leadership, culture, and strategy. Join Corey Quinn as he sits down with Jason Hennessey, renowned SEO expert and Founder/CEO of Hennessey Digital, to uncover the secrets to building a thriving agency that stands the test of time. With years of experien...
Dec 23, 2024•47 min•Transcript available on Metacast Feeling invisible in your agency’s market? Settling for revenue that’s merely “good enough”? Sadly, too many agencies are operating at the lowest level of revenue certainty, but not for long… In this episode, Corey reveals the Deep Specialization™ Maturity Model - a diagnostic tool and roadmap helping agency owners like you understand where they are, where they could be, and what it takes to become the go-to expert in your niche. Just like Apple didn’t stop with the iPod, “good enough” is ...
Dec 18, 2024•8 min•Transcript available on Metacast Are your agency's sales presentations putting prospects to sleep? Tired of competing on features, case studies, and pricing? There's a better way to win clients and command premium rates - and it starts with mastering the art of strategic storytelling. Join us as Corey welcomes Philipp Humm, Founder of Power of Storytelling and 2x bestselling author, who has helped agencies like yours transform their pitch process through narrative techniques that resonate deeply with decision-makers. As b...
Dec 11, 2024•37 min•Transcript available on Metacast How do you turn decades of passion into a thriving business that dominates a niche? In this episode, Corey sits down with Cris Rodriguez, Founder and Visionary of Grow Pro Agency, to unpack her transformation from martial artist school owner to digital marketing powerhouse. Serving over 450 martial arts schools across the U.S., Cris reveals how her agency carved out a competitive edge through witty strategy, results-driven marketing, and an all-American team. Cris doesn’t hold back as she shares...
Dec 04, 2024•55 min•Transcript available on Metacast How can narrowing your focus open the door to big opportunities? In this episode, Corey unpacks the transformative power of specialization and why choosing the right vertical market is key to agency success. He shares a simple 3-step framework to identify the perfect niche: tapping into your expertise, following your genuine interests, and analyzing the market for growth potential. Along the way, Corey sheds light on common mistakes to avoid when niching down, like targeting a market that’s too ...
Nov 27, 2024•31 min•Transcript available on Metacast What does it take to turn a side hustle into a thriving agency serving some of the biggest names in publishing? In this episode, Corey chats with Alex Strathdee, founder of Advanced Amazon Ads, who started with a simple goal: sell more books. Fast forward, and Alex now manages millions in ad spend, helping nonfiction authors like Mike Michalowicz and Dan Sullivan grow their influence. But Alex isn’t stopping there. He’s pulling back the curtain on a game-changing rebrand to Shelf Life, expanding...
Nov 13, 2024•54 min•Transcript available on Metacast "You have to think about the exit from day one.” – Ronik Patel, Founder of UnlimitedWP. If you’ve ever dreamt of selling your agency, look no further than this episode. Excitingly, we have another two-time guest on, as Corey welcomes back Ronik Patel to discuss his recent success in getting his company, UnlimitedWP acquired by E2M. And, if the latter sounds familiar, it’s because its founder, Manish Dudharejia, is also a recent guest and friend of the podcast! Ronik joins the show to share...
Aug 21, 2024•33 min•Transcript available on Metacast "The commitment to specialization gives clarity and perspective, leading to higher conversion rates and client trust." – Vlad Mkrtumyan, CEO of Restoration Inbound Today’s guest may have started as a general agency founder, but since niching down and taking a vertical approach, his team has helped one of their client’s achieve an increase of over $1M in new revenue. Meet Vlad Mkrtumyan, CEO of Restoration Inbound, a top-tier lead generation and SEO agency exclusively designed for mold remediatio...
Aug 14, 2024•47 min•Transcript available on Metacast "The audiences of niche podcasts are so much more engaged than some of these really big shows.” – Angie Trueblood, Founder of The Podwize Group Our guest’s founding moment might have originated by chance, but what followed was pure talent, and certainly, a knack for sales and pitching. Meet Angie Trueblood, Founder of The Podwize Group, a company that connects business owners and podcast hosts with other hosts who serve an aligned audience in their vertical. What started as a discovery of a nich...
Aug 07, 2024•50 min•Transcript available on Metacast "We get new clients by showcasing the wins that we do have and the return on investment that brands are getting.” – David Glaza , Founder/CEO of DIGITS Agency Retail media is a $54B a year industry, so as a niche, it’s extremely lucrative. Today’s guest saw an opportunity after fourteen years working at Target, and never looked back. This week, we welcome David Glaza to the show. He is the founder and CEO of DIGITS Agency, an independent retail media agency that, like Target, is based in Minneap...
Jul 31, 2024•39 min•Transcript available on Metacast Episode: 17 Chapter Seventeen of Anyone, Not Everyone encourages agency owners to embark on their journey towards vertical market specialization, emphasizing that existing clients are likely to remain supportive during this transition. It clarifies that specializing in a vertical market is not a magical solution but a strategic step that requires solid business fundamentals and can serve as a foundation for future expansion or diversification. The chapter motivates agency owners to start the spe...
Jul 29, 2024•10 min•Transcript available on Metacast "One of the things that we do best across all of our product categories is talk to niche audiences.” – Josslynne Welch, President at Litzky Public Relations Public relations is a fast-moving industry, yet today’s guest has successfully stayed ahead of the news cycle for close to three decades. Meet Josslynne Welch; Today, she sits at the helm of the communications agency Litzky Public Relations, a company she joined some 26 years ago. The agency specializes in toy companies, publishing, and ente...
Jul 24, 2024•34 min•Transcript available on Metacast Episode: 16 Chapter Sixteen of Anyone, Not Everyone outlines the importance of the agency founder in leading the transition to vertical market specialization, emphasizing that early successes can be achieved with the existing team. It advises agency owners to deeply understand their chosen vertical market, embodying the values and knowledge that will inspire and guide the team. The chapter also details functional skills required for each strategy phase, suggesting the use of internal resources f...
Jul 22, 2024•18 min•Transcript available on Metacast While we’ve had troves of agency founders on this show, today’s guest brings a unique spin to the typical genesis story. Peter Kang, Co-Founder of Barrel Holdings, started out running a website agency some 20 years ago. Today, the business has evolved into a sprawling portfolio of agencies, all homegrown under a single holding company umbrella. How did all this come to be? Looking back, Peter’s path to a holding company co-founder might make complete sense, yet he got there by ...
Jul 17, 2024•43 min•Transcript available on Metacast Episode: 15 Chapter Fifteen of Anyone, Not Everyone discusses the significance of being on the "day one list" of vendors that buyers consider without prior research, achieved mainly through colleague recommendations, past experiences, and vendor websites. It emphasizes the importance of building a strong reputation within a vertical market community, akin to integrating into a village, through deliberate relationship-building with influential brands (tastemakers) and mavens. The chapter outlines...
Jul 15, 2024•25 min•Transcript available on Metacast "If I would have called my services Fractional CMO 10 years ago, people would have thought I was crazy. Now, the market's ready for it.” – John Jantsch, Founder of Duct Tape Marketing. In recent years, we’ve witnessed the resurgence of fractional CMOs - Why now? With the pandemic, many companies were caught red-handed for their lack of marketing strategy - coupled with financial strains, economic headwinds, and smaller budgets, the environment brought about opportunity for fractional CMO service...
Jul 10, 2024•29 min•Transcript available on Metacast Episode: 14 Chapter Fourteen of Anyone, Not Everyone highlights the power of vertical outbound sales and marketing strategies, stressing the importance of proactively reaching out to potential clients within a targeted vertical market. It introduces the concept of the Zone of Indifference, where the majority of clients are neither actively seeking nor strongly opposed to new services, and emphasizes the necessity of targeted, personalized outreach, using unique and memorable gifts (USI gifts) to...
Jul 08, 2024•25 min•Transcript available on Metacast “I built out a cold outreach methodology around heuristics, which is a series of pattern interrupts, or shortcuts.” Justin Michael, Co-Founder of Hard Skill Exchange Ready for a different perspective on sales outreach? This week’s guest is an executive sales coach who has helped over 200 startups make over their outbound efforts by leaning into the unexpected. Justin Michael is a best-selling author of the book “Sales Superpowers” and the Co-Founder of Hard Skill Exchange, the world’...
Jul 03, 2024•24 min•Transcript available on Metacast Episode: 13 Chapter Thirteen of Anyone, Not Everyone discusses vertical inbound marketing strategies, emphasizing the need for agencies to be easily discovered by potential clients who are already seeking solutions. It advises on thought leadership through content marketing, visibility through speaking at and hosting events, and targeting through paid advertising. The chapter stresses that a proactive approach to marketing—going beyond passive inbound tactics—is crucial for agencies aiming to se...
Jul 01, 2024•16 min•Transcript available on Metacast “Eventually, we stopped the shenanigans and got vertical." – Rob Murray, Founder and President of Intrigue Media Some founding stories are more eccentric, and entertaining, than others, and today’s guest certainly has a tale to tell. While these days, the digital marketing agency Intrigue Media does over $5 million in annual revenue serving 110 clients and counting, its founder, Rob Murray started his business selling local out-of-home advertising all the way back in college. While R...
Jun 26, 2024•40 min•Transcript available on Metacast Episode: 12 Chapter Twelve of Anyone, Not Everyone outlines the necessity of creating specific sales and marketing materials to appeal to a chosen vertical market, stressing that most of a client's buying decision is made before the first contact. It recommends crafting a dedicated vertical webpage, compiling impactful client success stories and testimonials, and gathering vertical-specific social proof to demonstrate expertise and build trust with potential clients. Reminder that this is a chap...
Jun 24, 2024•17 min•Transcript available on Metacast “The first six, seven years were a lot of lessons. I made a lot of mistakes. I did not know how to lead people. I didn't know what kind of people should be hired." – Manish Dudharejia, Founder and President E2M Solutions This week’s guest, Manish Duharejia, is a true agency aficionado with over a decade at the helm of his marketing company, E2M Solutions. Founded in 2012, E2M Solutions is an integrated white label digital agency that helps other agencies expand their capacity through...
Jun 19, 2024•48 min•Transcript available on Metacast Episode: 11 Chapter Eleven of Anyone, Not Everyone discusses vertical sales and marketing strategies, emphasizing the importance of choosing specific actions and avoiding others. The chapter breaks down the sales and marketing activities into inbound marketing, outbound sales and marketing, and relationship marketing, providing an approach to reach clients in the active buying process and underlining the necessity of being a top consideration for potential clients. Reminder that this is a chapte...
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