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Hello and welcome to Zombies Ape My Podcast. I'm your host, Ryan Murphy, and joining me as always is the busy zombie lord, Lou Page. How's it going, Lou?
I've been to Evil Dead and it's the most Japanese Evil Dead I've ever Evil Dead. Wow. I have thoughts tonight.
Yeah, we're gonna talk about that in our main topic. We are
Yeah.
Wrapping up our extra life donations, Molly donated and she suggested a uh alongside a Italian zombie film, we watch a Japanese zombie film. And one that's been on Lou's Gotta Watch list. Or uh list that he's gotta get to is Bloody Muscle Body Builder in Hell. And that's what we watched this week.
And to Ryan I am sorry.
No, I I enjoyed it and hey, didn't cost me a cent.
You okay. As I was watching it, I kept going like, God, I don't know if Ryan is gonna enjoy this or he's gonna hate it.
Yeah, I don't even know if Plex runs ads on their on-demand stuff, but this was on Plex for free. You can watch it. Um at least in Canada. Did you watch it on Plex?
I watched it on Tubi here in America. Yeah. And um I had about six commercial breaks throughout it. Wow. It was an hour and it was a commercial break about every Okay. It was a little over an hour and it was a commercial break. In fact, the commercial breaks were hilarious. Every time it started to get good and there would be something but be like, ooh, all of a sudden it would be commercial break. And I was like, damn it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I didn't get any ads on Plex. Uh I don't know if it was a Canadian only thing where it was only available on Plex, but um yeah, that's where I watched it. It's on their I mean Plex has a lot of like
A lot of the stuff that's on Plex is also usually on Tubi. Pluto TV or the Fandango str uh streaming with commercial stuff. Like the four of them seem to share the same one of the movies. Like one will be on one one month and then the next month I'll be like, Damn, I missed it and it's over on one of the others. And I'm like, Oh, okay.
Yeah, they have a rotating license that just kinda scoots around but Uh no, it it was good. I really do appreciate that uh you know these older films get a second life on on these like free tiers of streaming services. So um yeah, we're gonna talk about that in our main topic. But before then, we do have some zombie news, a lot of zombie news, actually. Uh yeah.
The virus has completely devastated over a hundred and fifty of the world's major regions and then is spreading rapidly.
All right, uh I don't know if you folks know this, but it's early June, and with that comes a bunch of video game news. And we're gonna start off with a surprise. Look, not a surprise to us, but a surprise in the sense that this is the first official outing of this game, and we've got Resident Evil Veronica, and you might be thinking Oh, I thought they were doing a remake of Code Veronica's like no, they are. They just dropped the code for some reason.
Also, as someone who has played Code Veronica, uh like both on Dreamcast and the uh Playstation 2 versions. I was a little taken back. I wasn't sure if this was a remake.
Um, because I remember the opening scene and beginning of Resident Evil Code Veronica beginning with her breaking into an umbrella facility and there's a helicopter with a machine gun shooting at her and they blow out this thing and there's a running thing and she blows up a building and I remember all of that and then when this began I was like So is this a remake or is this a sequel?
Oh.
And and I guess it is a remake, but I was like, oh, it looks like they're going to change they're changing this up to make it make more sense for the modern era. I'm okay with that.
Yeah, they've been kind of taking these remakes and slightly tweaking them to make them fit within the I wanna say overarching story, but kind of like trying to connect them so seven, eight, nine kind of work in with the main series.
Well, not only that, but the of the old ones, like the original one, two, and three, they're if you play them now, they're they're fun games still, but they're still they're a mess storytelling-wise. Storytelling wise they just they don't know what they they're not consistent. Um uh things that happen between the games get referenced, but they're different than they were referenced in the prior game. And you're just like, huh? What?
Uh it and and and a as a player, you're more interested in the game. It does it's not a big deal. But the remakes have done a really good job of kind of Condensing the mess.
Yes, exactly. I I mean the craft of storytelling in video games has come a long way since the nineties and early two thousands, so it's to be expected that they've been sort of given that f both facelift and story uh polishing. And uh this is actually due next year, so we got Requiem this year and like clockwork we have our remake arriving the year after or shortly after. And the platforms they confirmed: PlayStation 5, Xbox Series consoles, Nintendo Switch 2, and PC, of course.
Uh they also e you might be confused like I was because the trailer was uh a lot of first person. And I was like, Oh, are they gonna like have us switching back and forth like they've done in the mainline games? Or is this just a stylistic thing to like tease out the trailer? And the developers did confirm that this would be a third person game. So
Interesting choice from a trailer perspective, but it fits within that like teaser trailer feeling. Cause I think they were trying to like, oh, what is this? Is it 'Cause they're like they don't use Chris's name, they just say, Oh your brother, he he's so messy you know uh I think it was part of the tease because they like to do that with these trailers when they're announcing stuff, is like how long can we play the trailer, keep everyone's attention but not tell them what they're watching?
As soon as I saw it, I was like, I knew it was Resident Evil. It was just a question of what they were giving us. And then when it said uh Veronica, I was like, okay, I know where we are and I know what's going on. It's just a matter of beef putting the pieces together to figure out if this is a sequel or not. And it's not. It's a remake. And I was like, cool. I like what they're doing here. Give me some more gameplay in a couple in a in in six months to a year, and we're good.
I have a question'cause it this came up on the Gamers In when we were talking about it, and I had alluded to the fact that uh the The buddy character that's in this one, Steve, isn't as beloved as other buddy characters. Do you think they're gonna, you know uh well, I think the remakes have done a really like is it Carlos in the third one? Is that the guy's name?
Uh Carl Carlos is L Luis is in four, Carlos is in three.
Yeah, so Carlos in three, I remember people saying, like, yeah, he's present, he's a character, but I felt like in the remake they really they really punched him up and he was much more present with.
Yeah they they did. Um he's like he shows up in the third game in the original a bunch of times enough that you know who he is and you're like oh it's Carlos. And he I I think he s shoots a z bunch of zombies to protect you at some point while you're doing something. I as other outside of that, I would say he's As throwaway as most of the other characters in other games. And in the remake, they they he's definitely like he has way more dialogue.
He's more of a present character, so I wonder if they will do the same in this one and sort of address the Steve in the room and whatnot.
Steve, uh since you've never played Code Veronica, you play whole sections of the game as Steve. Oh. Um There it like there's two or three points in which uh she's stuck or she's been caught or something and he has to rescue her and you play for like an hour. You I'd probably say you play for like two or three hours. o as him in the original game. And his sections are not fun.
Okay. I was just gonna say'cause I know a lot of people had thoughts and feelings about
It's not that he's a bad character. He is the biggest walking trope. Basically. He is I'm trying to remember what I what somebody told me back in the day. They described him as it came out when did Code Veronica come out? Was it 2000? Two thousand. Yeah. Um, he's basically like a walking pretty boy, uh, who is a stand in for uh back in the day they would have had him played by um Uh uh uh catch me if you can.
Leonardo DiCaprio?
He's like a super young Leonardo DiCaprio.
Oh okay.
And and they go out of their way to like he stands pretty in every scene. And you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And in every scene he wields two guns. To the point where you're like, okay, I get it. He shoots two guns.
It's also interesting because I'm just I was just trying to look it up. Code Veronica is like Kinda tough to play these days. Like it's not available there's no PC port from what I can tell.
There's no PC port. Uh I have a PS2 copy right behind me on a shelf. Oh, cool. Um so I mean I can play the original if I want to. I just don't want to.
No, fair. Oh I mean you got a remake coming next year. There's no point in spoiling it for you. Like I was just curious because I think you can play this is why remakes are cool because it I I really think the original should be available, but it sounds like it didn't come out on PC. Like it never released on PC. It was uh there There's a PS3 and three sixty version and the three sixty version is backwards compatible on the Xbox One. Um never came to PC.
I think the three sixty version is an Xbox One uh Xbox game that was backwards compatible or something. Like it's it's I That game has uh that game got ported to everything and then when it kinda started not getting the reviews that people wanted, they stopped porting it. It does not have the love that four has. It's sort of this weird mix And the older games. It plays a lot more like but with the camera angles of the original games.
Interesting.
They were trying stuff and it didn't work. It it it worked out at the time, but it hasn't aged well.
Yeah. Well I hope this uh remake lands well and we're able to enjoy it. I think it'll definitely
I mean, w uh have they have they botched any of them since six at this point?
No, they've been pretty solid. I I think Capcom's been rocking it with their remakes and and their mainline games. So uh look forward to Resident Evil Veronica when it launches next year. We'll be covering it right here on Zombies 8 My Podcast. Uh our next video game title. This is a um uh this this one we've talked about before. This is State of Decay three. We got a trailer with uh a confirmed release window, which is twenty twenty seven.
And it'll be coming to Xbox, PC, Steam, and PS five, so uh still a multi platform title. Uh from Xbox. This is an Xbox studio, Undead Labs. And the trailer I think tried to portray more gameplay. But to me it didn't like latch on to what I really loved about the be the the first one, which was sort of the survival management of the game. This focused more on the combat and a little bit of like the fake. story stuff. It didn't feel real to m like the real story.
This feels to me like there's a reason we haven't gotten this yet. This game feels like it's gonna be a mess. It feels like there's going to be the management stuff that we want that we liked from the original game, but that's going to be
Small.
It feels like they're trying to make a more open world left for dead. That's what this felt like to me. And I don't know I don't know if that's gonna work.
Well, it hasn't since Left For Dead. I I think a lot of the Left For Dead clones slash revivals have really struggled to to latch on to a a community.
It makes me it makes me wonder if the reason Valve has not made another Left for Dead is that they know that they basically would just be remaking the same game again and that that's that that the magic wouldn't hit, you know what I mean?
Yeah, no I get it. Uh I I now that you say that, I I do kind of thinking back to the trailer, I do get that sense of like, okay, we're trying to build out a four-player co-op and they're leaning more towards the survival aspect as opposed to What I really liked which was the story. You know, being able to play through the story and the survival management and the base building and finding survivors and completing missions, that's what I found interesting. And I didn't get
sense from the trailer. It's it's a short trailer. We have not gotten a gameplay demo yet, which is what I'd wait for.
I got the sense playing this game. This is going to be a game that's not fun by yourself. This is gonna be you need four buddies to play with or it's not gonna be fun. Yeah.
Yeah, see, I I hope that's not the case. Not that I don't like playing video games with other people, and I know you and I will definitely have time to like sit down and play this. But to play a whole game like this four-player co-op, like I think maybe that's why the second one fell off for me is they put too much onus on having to play with your friends as opposed to just Playing. Like I played the first one by myself and I loved it. You know? The multiplayer was a novelty.
Yeah, the m the multiplayer was literally like your buddies could join you in your adventure.
Yeah, yeah.
But they didn't have to be there. And I feel like this is gonna be the opposite. If you don't have people to play with, this isn't gonna be fun. But we'll see. We'll see. I'll give it I'll I'll give it time to come out and see what happens.
Yep, won't have long to wait. Both Code Veronica remake and State of Decay three will be out next year. Big year for zombie video games, so we'll see how those land. Um, we continue our new movie discussions with. Uh we have a confirmed rating. This shouldn't surprise anybody, but the Train DeBusan Director's new zombie film Colony will be out in US theaters august twenty eighth of this year, and it will be rated R.
Surprising no one.
Ha ha.
No one. I I I uh I was not surprised by this at all. Um it sounds like critics or critics that have seen it at fist film festivals are kind of mixed on it. Uh but that's to be expected. It's a zombie movie. People don't always uh critics don't always go into them being like, yes, it's amazing.
Yeah. Yeah they're kinda saying that it's like It's i it's entertaining, but it's a little too derivative of better zombie movies, which is like
When I saw the trailer that was kind of my fear. Sure. But if I go in with low expectations, I'm sure it'll be fine.
Yeah, like I'm not gonna rush out to theaters to see it, but we'll rent it and watch it for the show.
Absolutely.
Yeah. So look forward to that colony in theaters August twenty eighth and
I...
I saw this pop up in uh on my blue sky feed and I was like, We just talked about this. We did. We had a teaser last episode for The Walking Dead, Dead City, Season 3. Now we have the official trailer, because July 26th is going to be here before we know it. Uh Lou, I'll I'll I'll let you kick this one off. Uh did you find the official trailer continued the sort of positive thoughts we're having on this?
Yes!
Except for one thing. Oh.
What is it?
old lady and the the the the the other guy are in the trailer and I'm like I thought they died damn it which old lady the the I saw the the lady that was running that was manipulating Megan.
Oh yeah the the it wasn't the Was that her name?
Adam, yeah. I saw her in the trailer and I was like, I thought she was dead and I thought he was dead. Oh, are we gonna have to deal with them again? Come on.
I thought okay, I know she fake died in season two. Yeah. But did she really die after that?
I thought she did.
I'm looking at it.
Yeah.
It's gonna bug me if I don't know.
I if if they d if they're back and they're not dead, I'm gonna be a little annoyed. But as long as they get removed right away and I don't have to deal with the whole season of them, I'm fine.
Yeah, uh well I know um trying to remember the all the character names, but I'm trying to see if I can find like a cast list. There was one character who okay, here I have it. I have it here. So the Dhamma. The Dhamma's the character you're talking about. I thought he had died, but there's another so Oh, it's the uh the kraut, right?
Yeah. Okay. I don't know. But I saw him, but then I thought I saw the Dama too.
Okay, so
Trailer.
Let's see.
She was gone.
She is alive. She's still alive, according to this. And so is so is uh so is the crowd. So th this is an issue that the Walking Dead has not traditionally had, where their their villains Are are always they're a villain of the season. They're taken care of. They're in a nice neat bow. They always kill them off.
And that's been criticized, right? I know Marvel gets that criticism for their villa oh you kill off the villains, like you can't build out this like you know, this overarching hatred. And and in this case, I think Dead City has tried to keep these characters alive to to almost comical levels. Uh I completely forgot about them.
I thought they were gone. So seeing them in the trailer I was like
Okay.
I like like they better be gone by the end of this season. Um, my favorite line though is I think it's a mislead in the trailer is Somebody's talking to Maggie and they refer to him refer to someone as he's a uh he's a he's a rabid dog or something like that. And I went, they're making us think that she's talking about Negan. But I guarantee when the episode airs, she's not talking about Negan. She's talking about uh the other guy.
Yeah. I mean trailers do that a lot.
I hate when they do that. Yeah. Don't mislead don't mislead. Because you're not mis misleading me isn't gonna make me excited. Misleading me is just gonna make me annoyed. Because it makes me want to tune out. Because I'm gonna be like, oh, we're gonna do that crap again. Okay.
Yeah.
No, that's fair. I think that's fair. I I think for me This trailer gave us more story. They're clearly setting up this big battle. I didn't recognize the Dama and the other character From the trailer. But that being said, as long as they don't have
you know, power over Negan or Herschel because that was always what made them annoying is they they weren't they were compelling, but they they were only compelling'cause for some reason they had these other characters under their thumb. They shouldn't now.
My feeling is we're gonna get a whole story arc. with Maggie and Negan working together and it's gonna be awesome. And then the Dama is going to make Herschel do something that he that he doesn't want to do and she's gonna mind control him or something. And it's gonna be really annoying. Um
don't think that's gonna h I think they're they're free and clear. I think they're just another faction. I don't think
I hope so. I hope so. I hope I'm wrong. But I am still looking forward to this more so than I thought I was. Uh the fact that Maggie and and Negan are on the same team makes me excited.
Yeah, they don't seem to be playing up the the rivalry anymore. They are clearly, very clearly on the same team. I don't think there's forgiveness there, but there's at least understanding.
But there's also they also do this scene where there's two guys hanging and Negan says, We're gonna play a game and I was like, Oh, you're trying to make us think he's gonna be the bad guy again But this is gonna be more like
These are two guys that are bad and he's gotta make he's gonna try and make them talk by making them think he's gonna be the Negan. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's what they're doing. But they're trying to make us think, oh no, now Maggie's gonna use him as the Negan and it's like maybe But you're making it look like she's gonna become a villain by the end of this and I th that's not what's gonna happen here.
No, I look, my prediction for like the series, the spin-off series, is that is that it ends with Negan and Maggie going their separate ways and they've both learned something about themselves and they will live better lives and and walk off into the sunset. separately. Like I don't think this is them suddenly You know, building a community together. I think they go their separate ways and that's the end of the spin off. Uh not this season, I guess they're doing a fourth, I think, but
I think that's what we get. I don't th uh like even though they're working together here, I think it's a means to an end to try to like build a better place. I I think Negan moves on. I don't think he sticks around in New York. I don't know. We'll we'll see. Um
We'll see. We'll see. I'm not writing anything out.
Character actor from uh Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
Jimmy Simpson.
Yeah, yeah. And he and look, he plays a barkeep in this one, and I'm like, yes, perfect.
I love him. I will watch him in anything. So when when I saw him, I'm like, you just made me want to watch this more.
But you know what they better not do is they better not pull uh uh Oh gosh, what was the British actor's name from Daryl Dixon? Steve
I don't think uh that they're not they're not gonna kill him off, at least not in the first episode. I guarantee we're gonna get a couple episodes with him at least.
Yeah. He's not saying I'll only do one episode and then you kill me off. I think he's good to he's good to stick around for the paycheck. So uh I'm looking forward to it. July twenty sixth. We have already said like, hey, we might do the premiere and then, you know, see how things work out with our schedule. But uh yeah, look forward to that this summer.
And um another Marvel Zombies comic series is coming starting in September. This time, Marvel Zombies Warzone will focus on the Punisher and his survival of the zombie apocalypse. And yeah, like what do you what do you think about this, Lou? I know we've we've talked comics before, and uh it's very rare that comic book news sort of makes it in my feed, but when it does. I like to bring it on the show, especially if it's zombies related.
So what do you think of this?
The Marvel Zombies with Punishers sounds like it sounds like a no-brainer. Yeah. It sounds like why haven't you done this yet?
Yeah, as far as I know, well, I don't know if he's been in the other zombie sort of series. I haven't watched them all, but you're right. He it appears as though he's perfect, because again, he's running around with a bunch of weapons and he's not afraid to To take zombies out, but uh Yeah, it looks like it will so Warzone will center around the Punisher and other street level characters like Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Electra, and Moon Knight.
So they're gonna have like a different cast of characters. I feel like Marvel Zombies is kind of focused in more on like the Spidermans and Iron Man and All that, so
Seems like
way overdue to get the Punisher in the mix here. So
Yeah, it's like I said, seems like a no brainer. Uh that sounds like a sounds like a good deal to me.
Yep. So issue one will be out September second at your local comic shops and yeah, look forward to that. In the near future, the fall, even close to the fall.
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And with that, that is our news, so it is time to head into our main topic, which is Bloody Muscle Bodybuilder in Hell.
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There was a groovy line, but it was way too quick, it was hard to hear, so I didn't I didn't clip that but
My favorite line is the scene after he does the whole bodybuilding.
Pose.
And he like they show you that he's jacked without his shirt and then he comes in w spinning the uh the the dumbbells, uh the the Yeah, I think the big dumbbell over his head. And then he says something like groovy or something like that. Or come get some and I was like, Oh my god, you you're you're not even you're not even hiding the fact that you're just ripping off Evil Dead. This is amazing.
Uh it's an homage. It's an homage. Not a ripoff.
Yeah.
Uh this is uh yeah, so uh trapped inside a haunted house, a bodybuilder must save himself from a gruesome ghost, hell bent on revenge. And yes, that does sound a lot like Evil Dead. And you this is a short movie. It's just over an hour. And you might be thinking to yourself, like, Oh, they borrow camera angles, they borrow sort of the humor of it, and then, as you said, they start to use lines as a as you heard in the intro. Um, he's he's direct quoting
Ha ha.
uh Bruce Campbell in Evil Dead with Groovy and Cyanara baby and all that. Yeah. It's good.
And and and uh okay, so The thing I will say about this movie is it just jumps right in. Like I I I started watching it. And I had something good. I was doing something at the time. So f I was trying to follow the subtitles while I was like folding laundry. So I missed a couple of steps. But it was like film studio, film studio. And I was waiting for them to like show the title or something. And instead it just kind of jumped right into the movie. And I was like, okay.
Cool. We're right into the movie. And then it begins with what looks like our hero killing somebody and then they bury them under the floorboards. And then it's like it cuts to the the credits, I think, at that point. And then it jumps to him aga him again, but he's with another chick and they're going to this haunted house with a psychic. And I'm like, why is he bringing this chick to this house where he killed somebody with a psychic?
I was like, what the hell is going on? And I was following the dialogue and I'm like, wait, I think he's not the same dude. I think he's somebody else. And then it didn't click for me until like halfway through the movie when the spirit of his father talks to them through the TV. That I'm like, oh. He's the sun! Okay, this is making way more sense!
Yeah.
Yeah, uh like it it's it you're right, it starts right off and I don't know if they make it clear like it's uh It's set in a specific time period, like the the flashback with the father, but it it There's not a lot there to go on. Like very clearly this couple are fighting the woman tries to kill the man and then the man Kills her a and
I was like I was like I don't know if I'm su who I'm supposed to be rooting for. Is he the bad guy? Is he the good guy? What what's going on here? Why didn't he just call the cops? Why is he burying her on the floor? This seems like a bad idea.
Uh yeah, no, it it it didn't seem like you were to be rooting for anyone in that scene because they were both bad. They were both doing something they shouldn't have been doing. Uh but I I will say that uh This is one of those movies that I would typically not seek out on my own if we weren't doing the podcast. Not to say that like it's a bad movie. It's just I'm appreciative that like we do the show and sometimes we're like, hey, let's go outside of our
Comfort zone. Let's watch something new. Different.
This is not outside of my comfort zone, but I will agree too that it is outside of yours. Yes. Yeah.
I again it's not something I would normally like, oh this looks this looks good. It's a it's a Japanese zombie film from the nineties. Let's let's pop this off.
I remember hearing about this decades ago and something about a Japanese Evil Dead ripoff and like it never made it here to the state. And like it was just this vague thing I had heard about. I was like, Oh, that's interesting. If I ever find an easy way to watch it, I'll watch it. And then it just sort of disappeared. And then I ended up hearing about it again around the time we started recording this show back in like twenty Twelve ish.
And it was in reference to the fact that it was starting to get ported to other countries and that they were try there was somebody trying to get the rights to this for the US. And then I heard it came here, but there was no easy way for me to watch it. So I was like, I'm not gonna buy some weird streaming service or dish out the money on something that's the that I'm either gonna love or I'm gonna hate. And it says it's the eve Japanese Evil Dead, so I mean I'll give it a shot.
And then again, uh, Molly asked us to cover something Japanese and this was the first thing that popped in my head that this is a movie I've been hearing about for decades, but I've never bothered to get around to watching it because it's been so hard. And I was like I'll mention it to Ryan and we'll give it a shot and if it's easy to find then this is this is Japanese and we're done. And I was like, Wait, it's streaming everywhere.
Yeah.
with commercials. And I was like, and it's only sixty minutes. This is perfect.
Yeah. I thought I was gonna have to watch it in Japanese because when I was loading it up on Plex it didn't show that it had subtitles, but the subtitles were burned into the to the film. Like they were Yeah. Yeah. So it is available uh I I did not see any dub version. It's it is subtitled. Um not that you you don't have to follow all of the dialogue to
There's not a lot of dialogue.
No.
No. Like that was the part that surprised me is I kept expecting as I was watching like I was gonna have to read lots and lots and lots of subtitles. But there's the opening with the the guy and uh the the father and the mistress. And then there's the scene in the car with talking to the psychic. Yeah. And then they go into the house and the psychic tries to do some readings. And then after that point, as soon as the spirit takes over the psychic.
It's like
I won't say it's nonstop action, but it's like there's something always happening and there doesn't need to be dialogue. And you can see the homage to Evil Dead. right after the psychic gets possessed. Until that point, I was be I was kind of like, why do they keep calling this? I can see some correlation to Evil Dead, but I'm not seeing the whole like
The Japanese Evil Dead, I could see some correlations. And then once the psychic gets possessed, I was like, oh, this is I see exactly where they're going. Especially towards the the the last 20 minutes or so. All of the special effects. our stop motion, um everything is basically evil dead, but done like a decade and a half later.
Yeah. I specifically made notes about the stop motion. Like they did a lot of stop motion with uh the necklace. I guess it was Yeah. This is why you don't need dialogue to you don't need to really pay attention to the dialogue to get it, but the necklace was cursed. Right? Is that what not maybe? But the necklace was part of the power.
He gave her the necklace, I think, before they he killed her or something. Okay. And it was supposed to be special or something. There was a line of dialogue about it. Uh the It was the uh basically the equivalent of the Necronomicon in Evil Dead. Yeah.
So there is a moment where the necklace leaves a character's mouth and then goes through the eye.
And you can see you can see where the eye thing is. I I I'm pretty sure it was a puppet or a mannequin there with was a facial uh they did a really good job with the prosthetics in a bunch of the scenes where I was like, I know that this is a mask and I know this prosthetic. This is not like modern day Uh special effects.
But for a super low budget Japanese film that was made mostly in the nineties, I was like, this is actually pretty good. The the the special effects here are are really decent. I've seen weirder lower budget Japanese movies like uh what is it, Tetsuo the Iron Man that has similar special effects. And this was on par with that.
The stop motion I think also adds to the creepy horror factor because It's not so bad that it's comical. It's not so good that you're like, oh man, I it's real. But it's at that level where it's like, ooh, it's unsettling the way things move.
It's very unsettling.
Yeah, there was uh a lot of moments where later on there's like a mush monster. It looked like they just had a bunch of budget to go buy some like bad hamburger and then like Food color it, I guess.
There's a scene there's a scene where blood kind of flows out of a table. Yeah. And I could kind of see where they had a hose and they had it going. But they did such a good job of hiding it that I was like, All right, I see what you did here. This is kind of cool. And then the blood turns into the mush monster. And I was like, This is this is Everything about this is very creative. Everything about this is
Super evil dead. Like I would love to I would love to be in a room and have Sam Raimi watch this and then just see his thoughts.
Yeah. Yeah, th I uh there was another line that was used, it was see in hell baby, which was at the tail end of it, which again very, very Uh in terms of dialogue.
The other thing too is is that like I said, it's only like sixty minutes. It doesn't w uh way I Ryan and I had this brief discussion beforehand where I said if this movie was about twenty minutes longer, it'd have been too long.
I agree. And you know where they would have added it? They would have added it at the beginning to give you more like preamble, like set up the relationship. Yeah. And they they did a little bit of that setup, but just enough to show that these were two characters that had dated at a time. They broke up and they were still friends and they were meeting up to have a conversation and
uh because she's a ghost hunter or she's writing an article for a a project. And um that was perfect. Again, minimal setup, get to the action, get to the the crazy. This felt like a like a
like kind of a an indie project in a good way where they're like, okay, we have this tight sixty minute script. It's more about like just having fun with these effects and and telling the story. Although I'll say this, there was one moment, so like I talked about the necklace and how the necklace appears to be the curse, but then there's a moment where they go full zombie slash snake bite, and the girl gets bit. And then she turns and And then there's a there's a moment where our main character
sucks the venom out of the bite and spits out this like really gross looking Kool-Aid and then she's fine. Yeah.
Yeah, I when that happened, I was like Why did he just do that? Please tell me that doesn't work. And then when it works, I went, this is the most unique thing that this movie has done, the whole movie. That's kind of awesome.
But like, have you ever in a zombie film, have you ever seen anybody apply the logic of a snake bite? Okay. Cause like Yeah.
I was like, this is very creative. This is I the I was expecting it to go the root of Evil Dead where he ends up having to kill the girlfriend, but the fact that she walks out of the movie alive at the end after the snake bite spit thing, I was like Okay, this movie just moved up a notch or two on my belt.
Yeah. Yeah, I really love that that moment.
Is this gonna be a movie that I've watched a hundred times like Evil Dead? Probably not. But am I gonna be a bun around a bunch of friends and something about this movie comes up and I'm gonna be like, wait, you haven't seen this? You have to see this. That's gonna happen. I know it's gonna happen.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Uh there's also a bit of reanimator in there as like some of the body parts were kind of stuck together, like a head and a foot. uh foot hand I had here. So that was kind of a a neat thing to see. Uh And then the reveal where you know, he sees this uh vision of his father on the television and he says the secret weapon is in the basement and and we're I'm like, Well what is it? Is it a shotgun?
And you think it's the shotgun, but then you know he goes back to the basement and he had set up a gym down there, and his w secret weapon is his muscles. And then not to make it even more cheesy, but there's a literally a Hulk like transformation scene from from the original TV show where his muscles Like that's not how muscles work, but his m his muscles are breaking out of his shirt. As if as if the shirt he had on is like too small.
I was worried when the movie began it was trying too hard to be too serious. And then at about the halfway point of the movie when all of the craziness starts to unfold and the guy's possessed and everything, I was like, Okay, now we're going into Evil Dead territory. Now it's gonna start do being goofy and weird in a fun way. And it didn't disappoint at that point.
Yeah, for sure. Uh yeah, it was uh again, being sixty minutes you can have those moments that are cheesy but like really stick the landing. and and uh are fun. So'cause they don't dwell on it, you know, they kinda just keep keep the keep the fun rolling.
The the other fun part about the movie is is they beat the bad guy and he says some kind of smart line and I was expecting like like a like a drive off into the sunset moment and it kind of just shows credits roll and I was like That's right. They knew not to stick to that we're done. Let's edit this thing and get it on the shelf. Go.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. It's uh it's it's really fun. It's just a quick 60 minutes. It's available on a lot of f free streaming platforms.
This would be an excellent movie if you're at a party for like Halloween and you're looking for something that's gonna entertain but not necessarily scare people. People are gonna go, what are we watching?
Yeah. It's quirky. It's definitely quirky. But it has its moments of
In a good way. In a good way.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. No, I agree. Uh and then at the end there's a blink and you miss it sort of classic Evil Dead where it's like the ghost is not gone forever. I think they superimposed an image of the ghost over the door.
Yeah, they clearly wanted to make a sequel but never got around to it.
Yeah, which you know.
I thought for sure there was a sequel, but I know there isn't.
And that's fine. I think that's totally fine. Uh yeah, but we really I think we really enjoyed it. And I think in terms of movies we've watched, it's certainly been the quickest uh sort of watch um for us for uh
for the last I don't know. It it's been a while since we've watched like a quick quick film. But uh yeah, this one's cool. I mean, definitely check it out if you're if you're curious. I don't think our discussion spoils what makes this an interesting movie to watch because it's about the visuals, it's about the nineties setting, it's about the evil deadness of it all, but with a uh sort of a, you know
for well, it's a i f it's a Japanese film, so it's got that angle as well. So like there's just a lot going for it that makes it um Interesting to watch. And as I said, sixty minutes, it's not a long film.
Um, so I'm glad we uh we got a chance to watch this one. Thank you so much to Molly for the extra life donation. And I had thought about like sort of um setting up like w obviously extra life starts the day after Extra Life ends and we we don't we'd like to try to like have it be like a fall winter thing, but uh I think this summer we will launch our extra life sort of campaign.
just feed it in there a little bit. So if folks want to have more suggestions, they can donate uh and support a great cause. So yes, all the all those donations go to 100% go to sick kids out of Toronto. And we really do appreciate all the support. So uh thank you Molly, thank you everybody who donated, and uh you too could have us watch some obscure Japanese zombie film that even Lou himself has not seen before.
Absolutely.
Yeah. Uh our next movie, which neither of us have seen, is We Bury the Dead. Uh this is one that we wanted to watch uh
Bye.
uh it it came out early this year, twenty twenty six, in theaters and it is now streaming on Hulu. So we're gonna check this one out, the Daisy Ridley-led zombie film. That'll be our next episode of Zamp. And we actually spent a good chunk of our pre-show. Talking about all the other fun ideas we have leading into the fall. So lots of fun to be had in the coming months. So stay tuned for that.
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