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Ep. 42 - Q&A Roundtable

Jun 29, 20202 hr 32 minSeason 1Ep. 42
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We chit-chat and take questions from Twitch chat and even answer some of them!

Zero.Blue.Orion is a comedic anime-style mecha show using the lancer system and follows several test subjects as they try to stop an impending disaster that could undo thousands of years of work. Set in Earth's distant future, Zero.Blue.Orion is a campaign using the Lancer RPG.

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What's up everybody. That's when I decided to make myself a cup of tea tea on a coffee instead, Thank you, and I did a tea reduction of cold water. Oh wow, very progressive of you. Minus the tea, minus the heat. Welcome everybody to our our zb o Q and a II. It's gonna be real kind of stupid and chill and relaxed today and we're just gonna chat and talk with you people and get get some questions answered, and I'll dodge a ton of questions. It'll be great. It'll be

great. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the to the Q and a wrap up. I'll put a little message up just for anybody that decides to join us today. Uh as as we continue on, UH Jay is going to be a bit late. He's going to be a bit late, but he will be joining us. Unfortunately, Colo couldn't make it today. I did, I did ask. Colo is not going to be able to join us today. Unfortunately. I'm happy about that. But yeah, she I had

some questions. But the really the really interesting part there, Brad, is that she cited you as the reason that she didn't want to be here today. So m h specifically. Yeah, yeah's going to be there. Should just put the thing on it, shouldn't I I should just want it. Just one the thing, A hum, that horrible itchy wig. It will have to return to your pubic region. I'm going to be trying it into the garbage. I actually bought a wig recently. I hate them because they're

itchy. I agree, but you know I'm bought one recently. Still drives me nuts. You're wearing it. I'm not wearing it. It is so itchy, like you're bearing my face doing that for all year, because that's

what brad. It kind of solidified the fact that I will almost never wear another wig on unless obviously yeah, but like for a whole year long show that if you go back, and probably if you created some sort of Cougio powered bot that could go back and search all the odds for me doing this, it probably looks like I have like gross itchy ears and I'm constantly just shoving my finger into my gross, waxy hot ears. But I'm not.

I'm endlessly removed the little hairs from the wig tickling the tops of my ears all the time. I'm just pushing them out and stuff. And I was always ready conscious of it. Yeah, I bet in the yeah, in the VODs and stuff, but I was, I was always like super conscious of it the entire time. I was like, man, they probably think I'm like disgusting, you know, just like yeah, before the fingers in his ears the whole time, long before the show, super just itchy,

wike. I hate it. So if I mean, we're just gonna be kind of shooting the ship here today, We're gonna be yes, you know, we're just going to be chatting it up if you if you chat people have any questions that you'd like us to to answer or for me to look

at and then say no, I'm not going to answer that. You can you can do exclamation point Q in the chat because Coudio is kind enough to throw up a quick bot for us, and we've got a we've got a like little little program that can they can see the questions in an easy way. So yeah, that's just exclamation point Q and then whatever question you want to ask in the chat, there's Noodle being an all star very showing us

there is no guarantee we will answer your question correct. There is a chance that we will because everyone always goes crazy correct whenever you do these things. And we did one for dark Fire the same way, one of these shows at some point the same way, and the next day someone was like, you didn't answer my question. I was like, what, noodle, leave me alone. But it does save all of them, so some of us, at least for dark Fire, we would go in. We went into

the discord to try to answer them. I put a pdf out with the ones that were important that we didn't really feel like we had time to answer on the thing, and we answered a few for that on there. But Wax never going to do that, so going to offer it for you. Look at him. We barely got him here to do this. The show is fine. If you didn't realize everything I was trying to do, that's on you. No, I don't, that's it is. I don't worry about it. I guess we can start off with with you know you guys.

Let's start off with you guys, if you have any questions that you want to ask, and then we can sort of jump in into the audience questions. I have this this itching and I'm curious as to if you think now I had to have a serious question. If you don't mind me jumping straight in with it. Go for it. It's for you. Actually, why do you think that wood has a gravitational pull? Well, do you think that if you had, if you had actually listened to the worlds that

came out of my mouth? I said that the chairs were bolted down. So good, so good? Any any any other questions? Any other? Oh? Yeah, they're working. Okay, you're working. They're populent, pumping in there. Anybody else from from our group here pumpkinberries? Like? Well, I asked everybody a question, but we can skip my role on the show, peebe. You don't need to, okay, right, I just want to ask you a question. Okay, I do have a question. Uh, well, it's one for each of you. Wyatt, what

was why it's favorite kind of anime? Did you ever think of that and have that ready in case somebody asked you? Or was it always improv No? I thought I would improve all of that. I just I assume that he likes any He totally just enjoys like shown them bullshit right where the main boy hero with green hair is just surdly overpowered and always you know, down. He's a good guy. I don't think he probably I can't imagine that he has favorites or any I don't think he's even that much of a real

like Otako. I don't think he's like the type that would collect my models like Effie. Yeah, I think he just it's his preferred kind of escape. And obviously he was a long distance trunk driver basically, so I just thought at first it would be called if he just if he just was into anime, since this is an anime. So yeah, I didn't actually think I would need to rely on it too much. Honestly, I didn't think it was going to be a character trait. I just thought it would be

something that just like a throwaway thing that he was into. But yeah, I just assumed he had a long like those truckers. I don't know any truckers in real life, but from what I understand, they have like crazy entertainment systems because they sit in that cab for ever days weeks driving long distance

across the world. So imagine that on a space level. I just imagine he had like a wicked set up with some sort of screen, and because the ship can do everything for him, yeah, you could probably really kick back and just watch Netflix. The whole time. So I imagine he would just binge anime because there's so much of it. But don't I never really thought that he had like a favorite or he was like obsessed in the way that like someone would be like, oh I need to get a Goku figure,

you know, or whatever. It was just that was his preferred media to watch. We actually have a small group of truckers that watch Table Story. So shout out to you all because I've seen your comments on YouTube and in the discord, and I know you're out there and you want you binge your ship, and I will shout out to you. Leave me some leave me some comments because the season two that we're doing is a prequel, so I need to know pretty quel prequel. Okay, So I had a question

for Stuo. How did Stu's rivalry begin? I think it started out like one of those cliche like animes Stu always want, like you know how Gary Oak and Ash started their rivalry, Like he'd look over and Blanson would have so much more than what Stu had, and Stut would always be justous, like, oh, I'll get you Blanson, Like he would actually have the sports car and like all the all the cheerleaders and fangirls like parading around him.

I feel like that was motivation for like Stuart first like be better than Blanton. Then he found like his own you're jealousy. Yeah, it was just sheer jealousy, like oh, I'll show him. He had like a moderate interest in acting, but when he saw Blanson being so successful at it, he was like, I can do better than that. It was more

competition than it was. Yeah, And I noticed that in the beginning at least, he was sort of portrayed as maybe potentially being a nice guy to you, and you just hated him anyway, until, of course, you

know, the episode in which we realized he was an asshole. But did you always sort of kind of see it that way that the relationship was sort of ambiguous, like maybe he is trying to help you out and hook hook you up with an agent, or was he always kind of a dick to do I feel that Blanson has always been a dick to stew but like that always, you know, putting that face on to like oh no, I'm actually very nice and helpful, but like deep down is like, oh I

know I'm already better than this guy. Yeah, I tried. I tried to play him so hard like he was. It was it's the nice people that can basically tell you to go fuck yourself without telling you to go fuck yourself that are the worst, right like that that horrific, condescending tone that you can give someone that's telling them I fucking hate you. Yeah, like you Blant. It was made perfectly, like honestly, you did a fantastic job because I really wanted everyone to like him, and just Stu hates his

guts because he knows what kind of snaky is. It was done so well.

I hated him. At least I had your back somewhat at that thing, because I was like, authority problem kind of translates pretty well to hating these kind of dickish rich rich kind of Hollywood types, and because I already knew you, and yeah, when we went to the Blants over dinner, I was like, I feel like I need to be his like back up here, and I was playing Wyat is so like full of himself because we all had these like superpowers, so why in his head at that point was

like I am Gohann, you know, like he's like you fuck yeah, dude. So I was like, let's kill him. You know. That was fun too, because I think like during that episode I got to play Fie as trying to be the wingman sort of in a way, and it just it was ruff. Yeah, that was great. She was just like Sue's the best and didn't you know this? And he's done that and just failing miserably at it. It was really good fun. Okay, So I had a question for you Mith about uh creating Luca. He ended up being

like such a huge bother figure. Is that something that you had intended during character creation or was that something that happened organically during plays? I think that's something I wanted to have. Uh So the creation of Luca, because I don't watch a lot of anime, and I'm not a huge fan of anime, so it was like me trying to find the right archetype that would fit

in the anime tropes. So I was trying to figure out how I would do this, what we would needs as like the archetypes that are being filled by these characters and by our party. And I was like, well, what's a character that I haven't played before, and what's a gameplay mechanic that I could try to use, and I was like, you know what,

grappling could be really cool. So I built the mech first, I want to be a pilot that was a grappler, and then and then not knowing the system very well, and also my first table story show, I'm super

shy, and so the character became very quiet. And then I think through of course playing and getting used to everybody and getting used to the show and getting used to the game mechanics and everything like that, we start to see more of Luca and it really kind of worked out and organically created him in the way that I kind of always wanted him to be. I wanted him to be the father figure. I wanted him to be a lost prisoner. There was something more than just him being a prisoner. And yeah, that's

kind of where where I've always kind of went with him. I wanted this big, bulky guy who just wanted to fight stuff, and he wanted to live fast and loose, loose and uh and see and if he and like I wanted, he's always his. He always wanted to have the gladiatorial death. He always wanted to die in battle, and that's always kind of like and that was sort of me being like, I don't know the system, I don't know if I'm gonna like this character. I don't know if I'm

gonna like this role. I'll just make this character just rush head log into battle and that's who he'll be. But as we played more, we started to find out more about his character, and I started to develop, and he started to develop more of and show his true colors, and his backstory started to get iron out into his being and and uh yeah, so it was kind of like he always had, Like the backstory that we've had has always been there, with him being the prisoner on SCORPA, losing some of

his family, losing his wife, not ever seeing his wife again because of the loss that he had, So he's just constantly going from job to job or being broken out from prison to then work and to continue fighting, and him just being this lost puppy in a way of trying to find out where he stands, but still finding those he can he can trust and love on

the way. It's always kind of been the theme for him is that he'd always has He's always he always wants to make sure that the group he's with is his family, even if it was on score but if it was his family before it was the jobs before his family, or if it was the Ebo crew, it's kind of always how it's been and then and then of course with how everything went with him and ended up being really great. So you're creating Sorry I just Brad, were you saying something? Did I just

speak over someone? But I'll say something since you refused to start a sentence. The it was pretty crazy how it worked out poetically that you lost a child and we all gained like a father figure. Yeah, right, I'm

very curious about that. Yeah, you could write a whole film if you just wrote down that as a as a as a starting point for a skilled writer and just be like, here is a you know, a group of lost individuals, and one of them is a specifically has lost a child and a family and then becomes a very central driving force to bring because in losing Luca, it was one of the main things that really brought us together. A lot of the early themes, the first few episodes of us doing the

training and just not being a team. You know, even when we kind of tried, we still weren't a great team. I think the Luca death kind of solidified us as a team. It was like something that we all went through and the blants over they were equally traumatic. Yeah, yeah, and one right after another. Two. It was definitely a tempering experience. But yeah, that's kind of also where I wanted to go with it.

I wanted to have this third act, like I wanted to have the I wanted to have him at some point, but I didn't know how or when, because I knew there was other things. Like I started to look at the the is candor and I was like, that's a really cool mac. How could I get that to work? Would would Luca piloted his candor? And I was like, no, probably not, but I also do want to try that. So I was kind of already like on the horizon of

maybe maybe maybe this chapter will close at some point soon. But yeah, I'm kind of always like he's always been about second chances, and even in the story, there's always been about second chances with him, and like he he in his eyes he failed once as a father and then when he came back, or he failed once was a civilian and he went to prison for it, and then he was washed away from that to try again with now

this new experiment in new technologies, and then he tried again. Of course, in that he saw the second chance for him to try to have a family again. And then even more later on through the farther up episodes, you start to see a second and a third chance, and it's all about him having more chances, which was really cool. And I thought that was really cool how that happened. That was never planned, but that was really awesome. It was a really insightful comment. Brad. I'm always very impressed.

This is This is a heartfelt compliment. You're extremely insightful when it comes to analyzing character motivations. I feel like that's You're one of the best people I've ever seen when it comes to just analyzing everybody's little thought processed processes. And uh, that was a good find. I didn't even really think about that, to be honest with you. Ah, well, thanks for the compliment. That was weird. I'm super into it, into into being complimented.

I'm super into, like Carrington motivation stuff when I watch TVs and TV shows and movies and things like that. So I don't know, I guess it just bleeds through a lot of the time. I don't think I necessarily. I don't know if I even understand it, you know, never like I've never taken like a writing class. You know, I don't really understand

from a very technical level the actual writing process. I know a bit about production and stuff, but I'm always super interested in character motivation and character arcs and depth and stuff. So I can't help but notice it and pick up on it. And I love it when we end shows and you you because we don't write this out. That's the thing that I find so interesting is

how we don't write any of these character arcs out. And you can have in your head some idea of what you might want to do with characters and what Whack might want to do with the show and stuff like that. But when you get to the end of it and you look at how the odds that we actually got this kind of, actual, real character arc for Luca

that impacted all of our characters, it's crazy, you know it. Legit looks like the type of thing that you could write into into its own movie, or into a really interesting character in a movie or a show or something. So when I see that happen, I don't know my Spidey sense, character motivation sense starts going on like it's just so cool. Yeah, I

thought about it a bit when when Luca died. I remember thinking like, oh, I wonder if it was a little while afterwards, because the whole lot the shock of Luca dying was pretty heavy, especially in the first couple of weeks, but a little while afterwards, because I wasn't even sure if

you were dead at first. And yeah once for a bit, right, yeah, once we all sort of knew what was going on, I remember thinking like, oh, if we all get our memories back and stuff, how is that going to affect us as a team, And it's it's had It had such a massive impact on my character and everyone's character that I remember

thinking then like, it's kind of interesting. It might have been around when we did score or actually I remember thinking like, oh, it's interesting how we had Luca as this kind of father figure, and how how weird it will be to lose that yeah for the team, And and then that was when I went, Wow, it's weird actually that we lose this father figure who became our father figure and he was a person who lost a kid anything. I remember thinking it a lot back then. Yeah, I love that

stuff. Situation as well, because I think nobody really knew what had happened and if myth was going to come back as Luca, except I think was I the only one that knew because of Fie, Like FI either saw it or not. So I had to straight up state to Whack like, this is what Effie would have done if this had happened, and this is what she would have done, and then he flought, you know, he told me, well, this is what happened with e Fie, And I was

like, fucking Luca. Whole episode and the one afterwards and the time in there was crazy because we all didn't know what was going on. Some of us knew more than others during the events of every thing happening real time. Everyone's messaging Whack and Wax messaging us. Yeah, everyone has to know their own individual information sometimes, and just like a situation that kind of escalated more than any of us I think expected. But then it was about character commitment

in that moment, like we can't just skip past this. We have to, you know, if this is what's going to happen, it's what's going to happen. Yeah, for sure, it felt like there were like two

integral character building points in the show. I think the first one was when we first got to the Krak and Baronies and we were in that room together, oh yeah, and we had to keep interacting with the I can't remember her name, Estherfana to keep to keep speaking with her, and we had to keep like everyone was a little on edge and we were we were still doing the like thing where we had we weren't fully trusting on each other then we had all these other people, we only had each other, and it

was and we also didn't really I don't think anyone really had a very fleshed out character then, because it's quite hard to even have it. At that

point was still quite early on and we'd only done the training. We were still learning Lancer and it was like ah, and I feel like by the time we came out of that and went and got onto Tivious as ship, our characters felt like they had a little more depth for them for the for the first time as an overall thing, you know, like we knew our characters going in, we learned how to play them up to that point,

and then they and then they grew for the first time. And then obviously Luca's death and how we all had to figure out how our characters would react with that and interface with it and react to it was obviously the second Yeah, but I feel like that that little arc there where we were all kind of trapped in a room and then like Luca came in and was like I told them everything, and everyone was like killing me, Like they were like punching me in the head because I was like, I told them like a

bit just because I needed to get tivious here, but I was my character was holding it all back because he didn't want to admit. For the reason he did it was says save Heath. You know, you didn't want to give that. So everyone was like you fucking betraying little ship, you know. And then Luca walked in like I told them everything, and they were like it was it was, it was. It was a very interesting point. But I remember d thinking for me, I had to think like that

as well. At least in that moment, everyone was kind of everyone had cards for the first time and to figure out what they wanted to plan, what they wanted to show with each other. With the Stefania and that kind of thing. There was, Yeah, there was I mean that was the plan for that character arc. It was. It was the whole reason that

I did it was I wanted you to have like character. There was a like forced character building almost to be fair, I don't really plan out like a story arc in its entirety, Like I just put down some basic ideas. Yeah, it's all of my notes for everything are just like bullet points. I never try and just like and they're like, sorry, my brain is not working today. They're like emotion points, right, They're like not specific scenes or scenarios. They're like this would be a cool thing to explore

with a group, so yeah, not necessarily setting. So what I'm trying to say is like you don't think of it like, oh, there's a cool castle scene, or do you? I guess sometimes sometimes yeah, there's a few scenes that I'm just like, oh, that'd be cool, and I'll like write it down. I never try and ham fist a thing in though, like if it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit. I mean I don't. I don't try to restrict myself really when it comes to the process of doing any of the prep. I just and I think for me,

I work well when I improv a lot. So I just I put down some basic ideas and I just and I'll look at them for an episode, and I just and I just go with that. And I feel like that's when the best episodes happen, at least on my end, So I just kind of go with that. Let's do some audience questions. Thank you for trusting us with stitching the story along with you, because that's really I think it's important. It's not really necessarily a matter of trust for me. I

think it's the way that I get everyone invested. Really, it sort of like becomes if it sort of like feels like trust as time goes on. But it's really just a I wouldn't bring you on the show if I didn't think that you would do a good job, you know what I mean, We've already that that part is already factored in, right right, And uh, it's just it gets everybody more invested in the story. When you're contributing a lot. You know, I want to I want to know why you

think certain things. I want to know why your characters do the things that they do. It really helps. But let's jump into some audience audience questions, because I don't know how late we're going to go today, So I do want to get to some audience stuff. Banjo Bunny asks, Whack, why do you like the idea of people's belief creating something supernatural? Oh? You clever person. That is a running theme through a lot of the shows

that I do. You spotted that a I've always been interested in that concept. It's something that's interested me since I was a kid. It's one of those things where when you imagine yourself with superpowers. That was always the superpower that I was interested in, you know, the actually like changing reality based on you know thoughts. I was always I always thought that was cool. I forget I think it was what the X Men character was it? Uh

in the old school X Men cartoon. Okay, Professor X's son not Legion Protheus. Is that his name Protheus Pudius? He could change? Yes, yeah, he could like change reality. I was like, that's that's the power I want. I was like, that's the coolest thing. He can just changed the stone. It's just changed. Now. That's awesome. So I, I guess I've just always been interested in it. They like reinforced

it in the Matrix and a lot of other things. So I think it's just always in my head, like I'm always thinking about it in some way. It's one of those little I feel like everybody latches onto something with art or or stories or whatever. There's always like a maybe an unintentional, like subconscious theme that that's going on in the background for that creative process. And

why does that, why does that relate to this? Because I have a question about I think it's in regards to the firmament, Yeah, and the owning, what the fuck is it? So? And did you warp it from the law as well? That twists a lot of like existing law to match my campaign or saying sometimes, so I wonder whether you did that as well with this, So yes and no. There's a ton of Lancer lore.

There's so much. And I have a horrible memory just in general, and sadly I do have the best memory apparently of the table story group, which is shocking to me because it's mine is so bad. But uh, there's a lot of Lancer law, and it's just kind of tough sometimes to keep track of everything. But the way that they describe the firmament in general in the in the actual lore, uh, it's the domain of meta to own a place inaccessible to all but those metat themselves has deemed worthy a place

of power. The firmament exists in one capacity is a metaphysical thing, and in a different capacity is something that is demonstrably real and capable of affecting the physical world. So it's it's a kind of a morphous thing in general, and it's something that the Ane people used to do a lot of the things that we did, so I feel like I just kind of expanded on it a little bit, and uh, I still try to stay true to the lore as best as I could. Uh it was it's honestly really difficult sort

of keeping track of everything in here. Number one, because it's very scientific and they use a lot of big words that shit's hard to remember. And number two, Uh, there's a lot of it. They have a ton of lore for this game. I don't know if you have looked in the books and the expansions that have been released. I mean there's an anech Ascendency field guide that is seventy one pages plus the book itself, which is five hundred something pages, I think the actual rule book, and there's tons of

other ones like they've got them for the Korrakan trade baronies. They've got them for Harrison Armory. There's a ton of stuff. There's so much lore, so I kind of took bits and pieces here and there from what I could. I definitely can't remember everything, but I did the best I could. It seems pretty real. It seem pretty immassive sometimes though. The people originally came from Cradle, Like I'd love to understand how they ended up on like

the outskirt of space. If Cradle is where their homeworld is, well, yeah it was. I think the original. They are the original. Yeah, they're basically us wow and the uh and this is by the way, this isn't the core rule book. There's a whole lore section at the end of the At the end of the book, did we get a jay? We did? Time to end the time to end the stream content? Any

more questions in terrible shame, no more questions. We should talk about how the end the questions Whack asked us as Blair's at the beginning, have basically set up the whole campaign, and how different that could have been had we picked a different question right because he asked us, I love that Whack. Do you happen to have those handy what you asked us? I can try to scroll up I do. Do you wonderful? You're way better than I am because I copied and pasted it so I can do it later and steal

the idea. So, uh, he asked us twenty questions do you want me to ask? You want me to This was offline. Yeah, this was before even character creations. Yeah, but it's in the book. Is in the book, in the book. It's in the book are possible? Their campaign ideas basically the ideas And I said, okay, well, if it's in the book, we might as well use it. And yeah,

you can read them off I mean right. So they are an infamous pirate military corporation, private excuse me, military corporation, glory seeking warriors, union regulars, career soldiers, union auxiliaries, recruited from a local world, elites of a planetary defense force in forces of law, criminals, thieves, swindlers, acolytes of an ancient martial order, devotees of a higher power, Guardians of an ancient royal lineage which sounds cool, corporate security, asset protection,

explorers of the unknown, pirate scum defenders of the homeland, the forefront of a rebellion, saviors of the weak, and helpless, hungry travelers in it for the money, Inventors, engineers and tests objects, inheritors of a of a famous legacy. And the last one is the only ones who could stop what's next. So so oh, I asked, I found the post by

the way? Cool, Yeah, I remember what it was. Everybody choose three, yep, and I just gave it a number thing where I said, okay, number one, number two and number three, and two of them ended up being very close. Which were the test subjects and the what was the other one? Eighteen? So inventors, engineers, and test subjects and the only ones who can stop what's coming, right, those are the two that we we all unanimously picked that one. Brad liked three, which

was union regulars or career soldiers. I just watched that what's it called whack the really cool the animated ninety five? I mean ninety five gunda were the gunam eighty? Yeah? No, no, no, no, the one the one came after we were in the pocket. It came out in ninety five. But I can't remember what the hell it's called because my Brain is also dead Today is the eighth Yes, the eight MS squad one where it's

just a bunch of like normal people with the worst. They're not even gun dams that barely even like they're just normal mechs, you know, they're not like the big crazy new type people flying around being awesome. And I literally finished that and then those questions came up. I was like that one, I picked that one eight MS team and then we didn't do it. Then

I did get to do it in the end. That's true. Yeah, my original intent with the show before I decided to ask you these questions were because I told uh, I talked with a few people just trying to like come up with the idea for before we did the show, and I was waffling on things because I really like the Gundam Universal timeline. Uh that's my favorite one, and I just I like the setting. I like the way

that they handle things. Everything's really intense, everything matters, and uh, no one's really bad, you know what I mean, Like it's they're just they all have their own reasons for doing everything and they just kind of switch povs like throughout the entire series, which I thought is just freaking really awesome, Like how many shows do you know that just switch the POV like they're not really the bad guy. Neither are we. We just want different things

and we have our reasons for why we're doing these things. They don't. They don't do that a lot on TV, and the whole concept was really interesting, so I wanted to do I was really interested in doing a Gundam

like story. I wanted to do something like with mercenaries originally when I first brought up the show, and then I was like, then, I was like, you know what, I don't he You had started a Nocturne already at that point, and one of the things that Peebee does so well is involve everyone and ask people lots of questions and get people really invested in the story and their characters. I think she's she's the best one on table story

in regards to doing that. So I tried to steal that. I was like, I need to copy what she's doing because she does that better than me. And I said, I mean, yeah, what is So I just said, you know what, let me just I'm gonna just see what they want to do, and let's just do that and I'll write down some cool stuff that I want to put in. But let's be interested in their stories. Their stories are the interesting things here. So yeah, uh,

Jay asks why is why it always late? Oh ironic? Welcome Jay showed up? You can ask it in person? Now, why is why it always late? And I don't think he was ever late? Honestly, I think that name was completely ironic. Precisely what he means to arrives precisely. I think, if anything, he went early because he goes fast, right, he was like, got to go fast. That was like my first thing on my sheet, I think originally was that I had talked about your

character. You're like, I just want to go fast. I was like, I want to be the like little fast boy. He's called boom slang, which it's sounds like a sonic boom type thing, but it's also a green snake, So I was like, green Fast probably uses a big, you know, laser sword type thing. You know. Because I didn't know how to play lunch at the time, didn't know what was available to me, that was all I did for I really did not put a lot of

effort into why beyond his name at first. By the end of it, I was like, I've never put more effort into a character than this. But at the beginning, I was like, I just want to be the fast one, because he was like as an anime. I was like, okay, I'll do with some green head with your sword. I just want to closing. Yeah, the I think I had just watched my hero Academia and that back of go is in it who just runs in and attacks people.

He's that character of vegeta, you know, just just heedlessly believes he can just take everything on himself and deal with it. I'll do it myself kind of situation and kind of a little hot headed. So I kind of went with that trope, you know, from an anime, because that's how it was presented to us, was like being an anime character. So I was like, okay, well, which of these there's like eight types of anime characters that you can be. That's it, like Cindari or whatever.

They are, the other one, the other one, all the dares, So just pick one. That was the one I went with, and I was suffering a horrible mental health issue. Rk Ass. If the most recent iteration of your characters saw themselves in the beginning, what would they say, or advise them on dooing. Oh wow, don't go to Mars. I'll go back either, be very happy. He just go Yeah, cool, carry on being an asshole. I mean, you cared about these people a

little bit too much. Let's start that back a little bit. That's pretty much it. Oh yeah, I think I think stew would just be very like you would give caution to trusting Lanson. You would absolutely want to go to Mars, but be like Lanson is still the same old Lanson. But I really can't think of anything else. But stew would be telling others Stu in about six months, don't point at anything you don't want dead. Whatever

you do, don't do this is somebody you care for yourself. Don't finger Yeah you kill past you, Yeah, kill pass you with your finger. It'll become like a paradox. That's the that's the Stewards. Yeah. Sorry, we're doing two seasons in a movie, right, So that's the movie goes back and creates this completely alternate timeline and we have to fix it, Looper. All we have to do to get season two of ZBO is fifteen thousand dollars on the kick Starter. That's all undoable. Mister beast, where

you're at? And are you interested in Lancer or gundamm Malhyato asked, was it ever a possibility that team would be able to pilot in Blue Orion? Absolutely, it was definitely a possibility. That's one. That's a question I'll be happy to answer. It was definitely a possibility. Would we have been trapped? Would you have been trapped? Yeah? No, okay, okay.

I had come up with many possibilities for the for the ending, uh situation, and they took the most direct route, which was also the most expected, and uh, I wasn't surprised, but I had other things that were planned. You could have piloted the Blue Orion. Definitely, there was an ultra happy ending that could have happened. You got like happy? Yeah, wait, what how ultra happy there? I don't know if I want to share that one. I don't know if I want to share that one.

I don't know, Like, no, okay, I'll ask you later, and you might not even tell me, but I can't ask s. Fitzchiev twenty nine asked, was Effie really crazy? Oh? I hadn't planned her that way? No, but yes, I guess she was. She was in the end, like it did. It did turn out that she, you know, she had multiple personalities that were kind of squirreled away, which I actually think was very interesting because she ended up kind of duplicating that

again with Gabriella. So I had originally intended Gabriella was not based on the discussion about what happened to Effie after Luca died, but it turned out that Heath was given a similar situation, but Heath's situation was different, and we discovered that during play a little bit, which I don't think really came out too much, but I don't know if Jay wants to talk about that or

not. Yeah, I went jump into a conversation that was further down the list with someone had asked about that kind of split personality thing, and I think, yeah, the way I was playing it with and PB was playing it was I think two different things that actually happened to us. And say it came out a little bit, but like Michael, Michael didn't exist in any way, shape or form. He was completely like a personality construct that the und had completely made up and put into Heath, Like he doesn't exist

anywhere. He's not a real person. He's not a memory. They just literally made him up and put him on top of heath Fanah. Yeah, whereas I think obviously with PB it was slightly differently, wasn't it. It was actually multiple people that did exist. Yeah, well, at least that's how I was playing it, but who knows what they did. You know, That's what I was sort of told. So I role played that, But it could be that I was role playing. I was told that because

Fie has the split personality issues. So hm, that's why I So maybe I'll talk about it a little bit. I felt like you were focusing on the memories that Fie was having a lot, and that's kind of the reason why I took that direction, because it felt like you you were really concerned with the memories and things that were happening with Effie and Gabriella, and I just it felt right. It just it kind of made sense. And when I was coming up with everybody's like firmament powers, I was like, Okay,

what makes the most sense with each character? That's why you get for the memory thing I gave you. You were the first one that I did. It was just so readily apparent, and then actually Stu was number two. I was like, Stu would have the flashiest thing possible, and it was finger guns. I was like, yeah, fucking finger guns. The hard light is the thing with the firmament, and the Hownig does absolutely finger guns. I was like, that is flashy as fuck. And then I

thought up Wyatt was pretty obvious too. It had it sort of piggybacked off of the way that the mech was going, And yeah, I mean that's kind of what I was what I was coming up with for that. It just felt like it made sense of the Walrus ass. What would why guy? What would Why be doing? Is an alternative job? If being a

delivery boy it wasn't an option? Good question. I don't know, man, I I mean, the only reason really that he was a delivery guy was because I wanted him to fit somewhat into the Starship Pilot background, which is what I had chosen or had come up with. So I wanted him to have some kind of idea when he was just thrown into a mech.

I didn't want him to be just completely like that. I want him to have some confidence so that he could play into that Scendari character, you know, so that he could be like I'm confident in doing this because I'm driving a truck, you know, or whatever. So, which worked, by the way, at the beginning when everyone was like, oh, he should he can do it because he's a starship pilot, right, and he was like, yeah, I can do it, but it was like someone who

can drive a class fly a plane, you know. But still, so that was the original reasoning behind it. Then when I was thinking about it, I was like, I kind of want him to just have a really pretty like normal job, really just pretty uninteresting sorry delivery drivers. I can't imagine it's the worst job ever or anything like that, but nothing like flashy.

So I want him to do that. And when I wrote his backstory, I said that he he's from just this really average earth like planet that's probably really overcrowded, and he took a job at sixteen packing boxes at the local star X plant, and then eventually he just you get one of those jobs where you're on the lowest rung and then maybe they let you do a different thing and then around that place, and then eventually they give you a a forklift truck license, right, and then they give you a truck and

then you. That's how you progress through those things. I know that because my cousin does that. Just took that entire route and now he's like a manager there at this firm somewhere, and that's just that kind of route through that kind of a business, which I imagine why it was on the ladder for so. I don't know what he would have done if he wasn't driving a delivery boy trunk, but it'd probably be just packing boxes or working an

office job somewhere. I imagine, just really kind of he didn't really have any aspirations, right, He wasn't excited or passionate about career choices or anything because Tivious was the all star kid, you know. I feel like it kind of dulled that that need or that want to be better because Tivious was always going to be the best star kid. So he didn't need to do that. So why it was just happy to just drive his truck and watch

anime. I think he would have just done the same thing, but it was just gone to work, work the office job, gone home, watched anime. You know, the same thing, same job. Long answer for unnecessary thank you, Brad. Commander Stras asks what happened to the NPC fire group from the last episode. Did they die? How I'm not answering that question. They did not die, by the way, in my version of events, they existed. I'm not answering that question. Get nerd Jay Britten

asked, do you boil or microwave your water? You'reg I don't know. I don't know what youreg does, but you're a free base. Thank you, free basic in a spoon. I don't think I don't think we're able to talk about those things. Okay, this is a family friendly channel, way right invisionable, I know what free basing is. What would the first chapter of Stu's book became prime? Oh? Probably who is Stu Flannagan big picture? You know those cheesy pictures that you see on the back of books.

It would just take up the entire page in this what's the first book of the Bible Genesis Genesis In the beginning, there was the spandex. The spandex was with Flannagan, and the spandex was Flang Sorry, oh yeah. The doctor looked at her and said, let there be boy, it would it would be just a chapter filled with a roic tale of Steu Flanning and

a story completely exaggerated me on like proportions. You know, when you're like filling out like a job application and you I was the I would managed money at a multi million dollar blah blah blah, and you're like the cash cashier at like a McDonald's. That's what would put down. He would he would absolutely like I drove extremely expensive space cars, like because he used to be a valet. It's like he would do stuff like that to just try to

like build up this story, this legacy. Like the heroes the book, right, must have him doing all of the good ship, like all of our hero moments that we had, like like when Wyatt did the jump to go back and get the other squad and bring them to the ship. In the book, it's stew that did it. It's like there's like this in this scene, like why it's like on the ground, I can't do it, and she was like, don't worry, I'll take your your morning cloak.

And he gets in it and it goes and saves in the big like everyone's like, huzzah, you saved the A squad or whatever. Not just the A squad, but this group of helpless puppies that happened to be on the ship as well. Everyone all the all the all the girls are all like kind of like posed around him for the artwork. Yeah, I want to read that book. Soot tea our wonderful comic book. Styles zbo provider, an artist asks how was it using a system that was so new and

still being refined. I'll let all of you it answer this first. Hm, I actually really enjoyed it, but I didn't. But I do think it was extremely confusing for us a lot of the times, and and I don't know how well that translated to a show, you know, because there's obviously issues with pacing and making sure that it can keeps going and whatever. But as a system, I actually really enjoyed. Lanswer. I enjoyed the mix and match stuff. Leveling up was genuinely really fun every time. I

really enjoyed like kind of figuring. It's like building a Lego mech. You know, you're like, oh, do I take that or do I take that? And I could enhance this thing or I could you know, do this, and trying to build the mech that you want is extremely fun. And I think if you're playing a very combat heavy campaign and Lance would be absolutely awesome for it. I don't think I leveled up the last the last level. I think I'm still Alice one. Yeah, we could have gone

different. Oh well, that was a pretty good answer though, really for the question, I really enjoyed it. I thought I really enjoyed the system. Combat was long, but I think when it comes to all of us as players, I think we had a pretty good grip on what to do. I have a horrible add and I would have just tuned out if it was not great. And I think like we all did wonderful for keeping us all interested and invested in these long combats. But it was. I actually

really enjoyed it. I think I'm excited to try it out again. But yeah, there is there is some sort of length and some sort of fat that could be trimmed off of some of the combat length. But that's just that just comes with all of the mechanics and all the mind parts. Keep in mind too, we also role played through the combat. Yeah, exactly. That's also helped me too. Yeah, that easily doubled the time from the combat. At least systems like war Hammer or what the heck is that

other one that's really similar to Warhammer war Machine. Uh. They have these like really strategic sort of elements, and it's it's a it's sort of like a it's mostly like a strategy game, like a strategy dice game. And I think, yeah, like battle Tech and and uh Lancer, I think are really sort of focused on that kind of thing too, right, Like it's heavy strategy, heavy, heavy strategy. Honestly, there's a lot more to the system than was used on this show. I have to economize a

lot of things. There's stuff that happens with reinforcements that I didn't really do much with because I wanted to keep the combat shorter. There was times, I think when we did the bugs. I'm trying to remember in the beginning, was that four episodes of combat in a row? Oh, it was like three or four. It was a lot like three or four. Yeah, yeah, it was that's a lot. Ideally I kind of want to

keep it like two episodes of combat at the most in a row. Yeah, if you have to, Yeah, yeah, So it's it's a lot. So for me, it's tough to use a system like this for a show. And that's something to think about whenever you're choosing a system. In general, whenever you're choosing a system, figure out what it is you're using it for. If you're playing at home, is your group like really into

the role play? Should pick a system that works for your group? And you if you're not into the role play and you really like the comment and you really like the strategy, this is perfect for you. You love this. It's super super good. I highly recommend it. And I have to also comment that the pilot dot net people are insane, Like they are amazing, and how much the focus they put into like tools to use, uh for the system com con is you need you need it? We would.

There was a lot a lot I remember before we started using it. We started using it like maybe like five episodes in Second License. Yeah, before that, everybody was just kind of stumped as to what they were supposed to do. How do I level up? What's a license level? What do I get what? You know? There were a lot of those questions, and I was like, listen, let's just all use this program and just just do it like this. I said, It's really easy. And everybody's

probably like, ah, it's an executive ole file. You know. It was kind of like a little there's some hesitance there. I was like no, no, no, I was like, this will just do everything. It'll just lead you right through everything when you want to go to the next level. And it really simplified everything for the group. So it was a breath of fresh air. Like I was my brain was scattered to the four winds when trying to do with compcom made everything so simple, and also now

I fully understand how to Yeah, yeah, what goes in? Oh we yeah, you were It was awesome we did. If we all took the same mech as him, there's nothing that we wouldn't have been able to do. You and you and Jay, like we did Bug episode and then Jay came in with like a amasic just like oh I do this, this, this, this, this, this, this and the same thing like we did Bug episode. And then after that, Fist came in with like his mech and just destroyed everything and I was like, Okay, they have it.

You know what's going on. It was awesome. There was also the fact that we were using the system for most of the show when it was

in its public release, so it wasn't really formatted in the book. It was pretty tough to use, I'll be honest, you know, And they released like an updated version and they kind of added a bazillion bookmarks into the PDF, and it was super hard for me to navigate because it wasn't like they didn't have like roots for all of the bookmarks, like it didn't have like subdivisions to kind of like go in like I want to look at combat and then from combat, I want to go here, and they didn't have

an index. Very very difficult for me to multitask. While the show was going on, I was probably I've damaged my brain permanently from that. I'm not gonna lie. Okay, Noodle asks, is there anyone that Wyatt didn't hate? Hmmm, Atlisa. I didn't hate any of them, really really hate anyone. And it even even at the end, I didn't have a side. That's why why I didn't care about Union or the aw Nick or anything. He didn't give a fuck who won that war. He didn't care

if invaded Cradle and wiped everyone out. He cared about these people by the end of it, but he didn't didn't necessarily go in there and hate them either. He was just very anti social and because we had to remember when we had the things what were they at the beginning that they removed from the game, that were we were giving points to at the end or shifting and changing called they were basically like almost like motivations for care. They were like

triggers but not Yeah, I can't remember what they were called. They called forget now I want to see. Yeah, we had those at the beginning. One of them, for me was anti social and it was really that was just the element of why that I can play very well method Act because it's not that he's anti social a a in a quiet reserved way. He's he's just spiky in a sort of self defense mechanism yway. So yeah, I didn't really hate any of them, honestly, I don't think even Heath

and stuff. It was just that the way that they because they seemed like they didn't get along kind of but he I think why it kind of respected Heath. And also Heath came in and was kind of like kind of like he'th kind of a fuck up, Like he shows up and he's like drinking and he's like, I don't even give if I die. Yeah, but he's also like he was also a little bit like what why I had aspired

to become. Kind of that was like he saw this person who was like, I'm a call dude mercenary who's trained in all this stuff and I can just whip up an assault rifle and take people out and stuff. But then he also looked at him and Heath was just fucked up and just PTSD and all broken and bitter from it. That was another interesting thing. So it further inspired me to be even more spiky with Heath because he wouldn't Whyat wouldn't

admit to himself that that's what he wants to be. And the reality is that war and all this stuff would reduce you to Heath, right, it doesn't actually make you into fucking like Nold Swartzenego from Predator. You know, you become what Heath was. It is a lot to war that can leave you in a very broken state. But Whyat wouldn't have been that to himself. So this guy comes in is more than likely Whyatt's future self, you know, and he's like, ah, I fuck that guy. So that

was kind of how it was. But I didn't really hate any of them, at least it was the first one that I chose not to hate directly though, because she was so very similar to me in the anti social way. And when she came in and everyone was like, hey, we're on a team, and Luke was like, dh oh, I'm a nice big look of friendly caddlets, and Effie was like, I'm so innocent. Ste was like hey everyone, I'm cool. I'm a superstar, you know.

And then there was a Lisa who was just like fuck off, you know, like I hat and why it was like, oh, that one's like me, so he kind of that was that was where why it's interest in how it came from originally as well. But no, I didn't I don't think why I really hated anyone, even like kas and stuff. I don't think he you know, I don't even hate those sorts of people. He just saw them like skill of character, motivation and identifying it so bad.

Isn't that bad? I just I don't know. I just like I guess he didn't have the He just didn't care. He doesn't care about Like when we went into the office with Wrath, it was a mean stew that went into the office with Wrath and we were like we just in and I put my feet up on his desk and stuff in a very you know, anti or theratarian way, and it was scary because it's guy is scary, and

I played it scary like that. But even then I was playing Wyat is not really too bothered about all these lines that people draw, you know, all these invisible, made up lines that they cut up the universe with. And you know, America is here on the rock, you know, like, oh is it? Or do you just make that up? That's kind of how I think and how guns Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did so, And by the end of that I really sort of defied it into

why it's personality for the last few episodes. But whatever, Commander stras ass the episode where Boomslang and his brother caused everything to get left up? Did you anticipate that or did the level of escalation catch even you by a little bit of surprise? Fucking way anyone expected that, right, shich episode? Because I feel like there's a lot of those where Wyatt and his brother left

up the episode. Are you referring Commander's tracks specifically to the episode right after the Blant's over where the absolutely, yes, okay, absolutely blamed Wyatt for that for some fucking reason, I'd love it if I'd love it if Whack turned around like a Google docum was like it was all planned, you know, I get it down to the minute, exactly beyond that, and we all were like, we had to plan to do it that way. I did not plan to do it that way at all. Didn't plan it.

Yeah, so I will say that I planned it. I'm not going to say specifically what I planned because it didn't happen, and uh, I think it would ruin too much if I did. I will say that the version that I planned in my head was a little bit like annoying, you know, like the kind of the way that they were going and they you know, they'd start some ship and it wouldn't have escalated to that point, but it'd be like maybe they get thrown in the brig or something along those lines.

That was kind of what I imagined happening. So even I didn't really expect it to go that far. And then I kind of when the episode was going on, I was like, I need to make this even worse. I was like, let's have this even worse, and I just kind of rolled with it. I kind of rolled with it, and it changed the whole story changed, the whole end everything, everything. Yeah, everything was way different. I had really planned on focusing on each individual character and

giving them their own story arc, and I had to change it. I had to change it. Uh Naoi Stir asks how close did the fan ard ZBO received match your visions of the characters. I loved every single one. It's perfect, amazing. Uh huh. It's crazy as well because we got such great art commissioned at the beginning, and we did the art for a couple of other characters as well, but we already had like really well established character art kind of. I don't know if that's maybe what inspired some of

the artists to do it. They have a more hard coded vision in their head to draw a Kondur for shit, really, but my god, out in this was so good. It was so good, And every time something new would come up, we would all share it in the group chat. We'd be like, oh, there's something new, everybody, come on. Fan art is the best if you want to know, like the way to the heart of the players on a show you make for them, like, it's always the best. Yes, we've we've freaked out quite a bit.

It doesn't even matter if you're like a professional artist, like we don't care, Like it's always awesome. I think the last one thing it was Susy did of just that last episode. I'm just amazing because they did it during the episode. Yeah, or I said, like Heath was like I'm tiny, my meg, but I know I'm saying goodbye as much as anything else.

And then like ten minutes later that's like, here's an amazing drawing of like Heath, and then like the caption of like you know, goodbye my friend or something, and I saw it and I literally, if you're watching, Sadie, I literally went, oh, that was how I reacted to it. It's like, okay, that's my feelings. Thank you, young and heart asks table story fans are very active in chat and in discord for

Whack and the entire cast. At any time during the campaign, was there any time when something said in chat or in discord influenced your character or how the campaign played out? No, no, I don't listen to the filthy peasants in discord either. They aren't you know, excellent well springs of character, motor evation and no, I don't know. I actually don't know. I don't know if I did or I didn't. I know that I do for a lot of my own campaigns that I run go in there and I'm

like, thanks, just write some stuff down. But I can't remember any specific things happening that made me write. I can't remember anything specific. I think there was one time where I was like, hmm, that's a good idea and it was from Chat. It wasn't from Discord, and I don't remember when it was though, So what myth is saying is fuck the Discord. That was the subject. I usually go in and I will check to

see if I am portraying the character the way I'm hoping to do. So sometimes I'll look if people are saying, like, oh, I think somebody got Gabriella pretty early on, like where she came from because of the cat reference in the apartment, and they were like, back in episode two, she had this memory of an apartment with a cat and they grabbed that. So that was pretty cool. I like. I like it when I can see that people watching the show have made connections that we have just kind of

slipped in there to our area. There was like a lot of theory crafting around that. The identity thing but we also didn't really know what was going on in so there wasn't much that we could use to influence it. But other than that, the characters in this were pretty I think they were just pretty self explanatory. I don't recall having to think too much on like,

you know where I will go from here? Obviously I did massively, but in the sense of like running into a dead end and being like or seeing something that someone had said, because it's just I think all of our characters were pretty straightforward because that was how a campaign was set up in the first place. Obviously, until the shift there with all the mindwipe stuff. I think then our characters became very confusing and convoluted. Yeah what about you wax?

Because I feel like this is not something that often influences me as a player, but always influences me as a seeing people write stuff or come up with theories or just spitball something at you that maybe you either haven't thought about. I find that I often patch loopholes and plot holes and stuff that someone will be like that guy knows that guy and I'm like, oh god, that guy from episode two was in the Oh God, what have I done?

He's gonna go I need to bring him back. Do you ever do anything like that, because that's I feel like discord do that a lot for me where I go, oh, that reminds me that guy's there. So nothing, so I feel like no major story points or anything, but maybe something along lines of what you said, like plot holes. I don't know, like yeah, like I'm trying to think of anything super obvious and I'm

not coming up with anything. There were people that guessed what was going on, and I was like Jesus Christ, you know, like there's that moment like why are you all so smart? Like am I that obviously? Wait a minute, now, wait a minute, do you actually feel like am I that ob sort? Because I se I'm like, yes, they did it, you know, I'm like, yes, I guessed it. I'm just like, fuck, did I? Am I too obvious? Like did you know? Like it's just down all these like hints and stuff, and

you know, if you're this is why I whack. I've started to put genuine red herrings into dying order. I just I put stuff in there that is bullshit purely now to try and confuse the people, because there's hundreds of people now that just watching this going, oh so if I attached, because all you're doing is laying out truths. Basically, you go, here's this, this, this and this, so they go that, that and that, and then they put it all together and you're like, damn, I'm

dumb. They smart me, dumb yest. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I've started throwing red herrings in just false information that makes sense. It isn't just some bullshit thing, but throwing something that might confuse people in in maya games discord. And I feel like you need to do this now, one brain versus two hundred plus brains. You don't understand what goes on in my head. Though. There's a level of like confidence that's going on in my

head where I'm just like I'm gonna beat them all. Like that's what's going on in my head. Okay, But like you're one person that's creating a story, and then you've got, like, I know, egues of people working together to solve what you have done. So I know, but I still can do it. That's what's going on in my head all the time, all the time. Subconsciously, it's always there. Uh sales d asked is yeg Okay? How is he doing beautiful beautiful yegg stupid sexy yegg?

It called back, Well, you'll have to ask domestic Dan uh Yeg. I feel like on my end, Yague got some very valuable information and there's an entire deviation from the story that was going on this entire time. Okay, a very major part going off on the side isn't confirmed, and uh, you'll you'll have to ask Dan. How how yag is uh Jaguar asked Pebe and Jay both. I feel like we're betraying Brotato by doing that, but we'll do it anyway. Both your characters went through some form of d

I D multiple personality. How did you find each of your characters different slash similar in terms of how they both handled it. I mean, we talked about this a little bit, but I because you when I think the big one that sticks out for me is it Heath was very combative against Michael,

whereas Effie and Gabrielleum were much more collaborative. And it was almost like Heath kind of was disgusted in Yes, Parsona, Yeah, because he because he they did by putting Michael inside, He'd like I imagine it like Heath experienced a little bit like locked in syndrome, like he was still in there, saw everything that Michael did, heard everything he said, and from Heath's perspective, they they just made him everything he didn't want to be, which was

vulnerable and useless and just inept and no confidence. Well they stripped away and all yeah, it's literally you're not good enough right in front of you, like we're going to lock you up in here because right now you're not good enough. So yeah, so he yeah, Micha, he hated Michael and just just wanted Yeah, I knew he of course sat there, he knew Michael wasn't real as well, it's just like giving me my body back.

What the fuck are you doing with with my life? I was wondering what would have happened had they had that conversation, because I feel like that would have been really destructive for Effie if you had been able to say with proof and they had that conversation like Michael was made up, because then she could explore the idea that maybe Gabriella was also made up, really really rough. So I'm kind of glad we dodged that bullet. Another question from Jaguar fist.

How do you feel about Stu's evolution as a character. What surprised you about Stu by the end of the campaign. Hmm, Yeah. When I brought Stu in for the first time, he was absolutely a fake it till you make it. I drew a lot of inspiration from uh, just like the uh like, I guess flex culture is that what you call it? Just like everything is just about like image. You don't actually have to like

to have any proof behind it. You had charm skills. Yeah, yeah, Stu was like it because, Uh, Stu grew up like in the movie industry and like every like everybody's two faced there. You can't you don't really have any friends in that industry when Stu was Uh, I want to know what Stu's parents were like, Yeah, yeah, you know, I haven't even thought that far. What was Stu's relationship with everybody in the beginning? Was he thinking like everyone was going to act the way he did or

the way everybody did in Hollywood? Or he didn't trust anyone because like his entire life, he was just like raised not to trust anybody. Uh, Like in the industry, it's like everybody will only use you for personal gain and you should you should only be looking up for Numero uno and that's yourself. And I think it was it was like further proven after the Blants over

that even his own ex wife was in on this horrible man. The devastated him after he had like a heart to heart with Anora we cared for very much. Nora was Flanagan's manager and like helped, you know, keep things organized for him. Granted, when Stu left for this thing, that was his decision. It was very selfish to kind of blow her off, but he didn't think it was going to be two years, yeah, that he

would be away. But yeah, after you know, having the heart to heart with his ex and then finding out that she was with Blants and his sworn enemy, and she was very aware of this fact and then also played into a horrible prank that made him look like an idiot, perfect way to destroy Stu. His ex wife knew exactly what to do to like ruin Stu

and just hit him where it hurt. So that I mean he was after that, like he knew like, Okay, well, screw these people in my life, like they they will like they will always see you as somebody that they can and then they can toss aside and like they just use you.

Well, look when Stue looked back on you know, his core group, all of his friends, he had had a change of heart and like opened up and actually started to develop trust within the group as he knew, like through all of that, he could have been thrown under the bus by

anybody in in the group, but everybody stuck together as a team. So I guess what really came out of that experience in Mars is that Stu finally learned that he could trust, like finally knew what it was like to have real friends, friends that wouldn't abandon him or use him, friends that would

love unconditionally. Yeah, exactly so. And he also went on to do something very real, Like he went on to do something that saved everyone, impacted everyone, and it's very and it's the opposite of the false home. Yeah, he's giving into all this clout hunting and these fake numbers online and

all that stuff. And then he went on to do something maybe no one will ever really know about it, whether they read believe it and all that kind of stuff or whatever, But he went on to do something that had a extremely important and real impact, So it's kind of interesting as well.

They also also shined through during your the Memory Why right after too, because you were still you were still playing again who is still trusting this group of people though he's having a very hard time figuring out why there was still in the subconscious he had to which was super cool. So it still kind of

show to show the character and growth that he made on Mars. Yeah, and touching back on what Brent said, I think it was cool that, Yeah, Stu was achieving all of these great things, like finally he likes make doing something real, but he was doing with friends that he genuinely cared about. Yeah, like versus like he works on like a big movie.

If he had gotten that big movie with Blanson and Bernie Bernie wins, it wouldn't have been it would I think Stu would have really felt like it wasn't worth it, like getting like all the like getting what he wanted, but not sharing it with the people that he cared about, because who knows when like Bernie would throw him under the bus or Blantson would throw Hi under the bus, Like, you know, genuinely doing something real with people he really

cared about. I think also had a big impact, like the real fulfillment of it as opposed to the false fulfillment of what you think is what you're after this. Yeahs Hollywood Stars or whatever. Nibble hit the nail on the head and uh Captain Chiro as well. Stu should go on to create his

own line of spandex clothing Visionable, says Flandex. Yep, do you think And obviously we're we're not saying that this is canon or anything, because I think none of us have spoken to each other about what we think happened after. But if they did go somewhere together, do you think they stayed together?

I think they have a choice. The thing with the ending is realistically they're still on the run probably forever, you know, like we're wanted by both the Union and the Outneck pretty much regardless of what became out of that looking like or with yeah, you know we still had to we we wouldn't. I don't think we would have ever had the happy ending of everyone goes to Earth and settles down the house chills out. I think we're still kind of on the run. I think we probably turned into the uh, the

Mercenary Crew. That's what I was thinking exactly. I saw them kind of on a ship together and you know, just on the run. But space is vast, so I imagine they could kind of get away and would be you know, fly doctor Zephyr paying mercenaries to keep his to keep the heat off his back so he can continue doing in this firmament work. And they have to publish my licensing for all of this. I need you to keep me secure. Stu's like starring in his own mini docuseries that we're doing together

just for fun. Like yeah, just imagine you guys trying to hide and Stu is doing like a right now better rough dated guys, some patrols. You know, no one, no one on the fucking ship knows why they keep tracking us, like why it's landing on a thing. And he's like, wait, we got bogies coming in, like they found us out for a day. How are they doing that? We lift off and stood like, well, where's the upload speed? What's uploading studios to YouTube? Land

x Nation? Great to see you guys. Obviously none of us are subscribed to it, so we're not not watching it. We have no idea. I think I might have accidentally knocked the wire out of my flann X out squizz bar seven as has Tivious dodged the firing squad? Thanks? Yes, going to answer that question? He answer that question, Yes he did. Actually, I'll wait and once Fist gets back, I'll just have the two of you turn off camera. Oh sure, yeah, we have no camera

from you on zoom, Jay, can you turn off yours? It was actually just Fist being very clever and making sure that he got the words Fist of the war was at advertising. Come on, you know what I have got to worry about that about that branding? Jay, you can come in and change mine to suptimismatic. Mal Hyato asked with why giving a hug to Effie to reassure her of her identity? Does this mean he is over Elisa? Mm uh no, I don't. I don't think why I had any

like romantic feelings towards Effie. I don't know if if that was how it was, I don't know. No, no, so I totally got permission from Colin to talk about this. But Colo and I were role playing the romance between f and Elisa before she left. Yeah, I thought that might have been what was going on there as well. Yeah, Yeah, no,

I didn't. I didn't. The hug was more just the fact that I was playing this version of WHYTT that it was that had kind of come to peace with his own place and his own insecurities and things and was just trying to better himself. And he also saw one of his friends in need, just because, like you know, Jud's got all the guns, maybe, but sometimes people need a hug. You know, It's not about just defending people with a fucking shield and sword. Sometimes you've just got to defend

people. Why, it was very conscious of it because he was there when Effie was convinced to come back, right, and so he felt slightly responsible for making sure that she felt safe and secure and okay in being back and out and all of this stuff then started to pile on on top of that for Fie as well, And I think why I could see that because I feel like he felt like he had just come out of it as well, obviously everyone did, but why it was on the last ones as well.

So yeah, I was just plaining him like he was. He was just trying to make sure that he was being very reassuring to his friend. And the one of the things that I was really carrying through to the end. There was the the idea that you aren't you know, you just you become who you want to become, basically, and it didn't matter where we all came from, you know, at the end of it, at the end of this show, now our journey here those people that we wanted to be.

I think most of us had become to a degree, and I think Effie was still struggling with it. Yeah, but for why, he only knew Fie doesn't give a fuck that she's read Star. He didn't give a fuck that there are all these other you know, personalities that might be in

there. He's only ever known Fie and that was the person that he loved as a sister or friend and wanted to just reassure her that the Efie was enough of a person for him to feel, you know, she doesn't need to feel that she needs to recede into herself like she was doing kind of

thing. So I think that was really all I was trying to play as why, just trying to make sure that it was not just protecting people with you know, jumping into the mech and flying out, also making sure that everyone was okay, you know, in the heads, and that was a really incredibly powerful moment as pebe the player watching Brad and what he did with Wyatt, but also just for Effie, but because if you all remember in the beginning of the series, why it was very much like who the fuck

cares about regular people? We all have superpowers, Like anybody who's not a superhuman is discarded and useless. So for Wyatt to stand there and be like, doesn't matter about any of that other stuff, like you're enough right here as you are, was really really and it was really nice. I liked that moment. It was a really good moment. I was also told to give you a hug oh in the firmament by a friend. Go back and watch the episode of how You're all confused by that? Okay, all right,

okay, oh no, no, no, I'm sorry. Yeah, I was the leader. Yeah, so that was the other motivation, I guess. Picnically, Targrad asked Brad on the backstory episode for Luca, how much did you laugh when giving him the bomb at the end, And had you planned that from when you said he would need something? Yes? Well

sometimes also I knew that that was going on in my head. I was like I have the perfect punchline here if I can, Just if I can, because it's hard when you're a player and you're one of an ensemble and you're the gm IS in control of the story to try and facilitate something you know will be a good payoff. And I was like, please just allow for this to be facilitated in some way, and it just it worked out

and it was yeah one. I mean I was sat there just you can probably what I probably look nervous because of how much I desperately wanted to make sure that that was like the thing I wanted to do. It was so good. Yeah, Bongo Bongo is the story of his own series, I Think Live You Willingly Love Scorpa. Captain Shiro asked, will ste hook up with a certain handsome anime character in the aftermath? Burton, is that implying? Yeah, you know, you know, it's a good question. Haven't

gotten the callback. So I don't think come back. I don't think Stuve's I do think Stu's looking to be honest. I think actually going back from like Mars, like learning like you need to trust people and not you know, take it from face value. He's learned a valuable lesson also in that realm. So it could be possible, but things will go a little different, I believe than what old STU would do. All right, fair enough lujah dex asks if you knew what you know now system or RP, would

you do anything differently or change a single outcome. I have a thought during the show where it was extremely combat heavy and we were all struggling to kind of make that work in a show space, that was like, I wonder if you could just sit down and run combat offline and then when you go online your role you just role play out the roles you all did. I was like, that might be a way to make that interesting and make that

happen. So we're still rolling, it's still combat that's happening, but we're not sitting there pausing and asking them right in questions. You know, It's like playing a game of chess offline and then we role play that out and then do the other role play improv. But I don't know if I would necessarily do that or change that. It's just a thought that I had because I do frequently try walk yeah, yeah, I know, right, like,

how would you do that? But I do try to think of ways in which could you know, refine the process and do stuff that might not be done yet on you know, streaming games like this. I do think about stuff like that. So but other than that, No, I don't think there was anything, not even saving Luca in some way. No, I don't there. I don't think there was saving Luca. I think that would have happened either way. The thing is like, objectively, Luca dying

was so pinnacle to the journey. It was so transformed the entire show on so many different levels that I definitely wouldn't change it, even though it was horrible. Yeah, the whole thing was horrible. I think I thought it was great. It l it led to the story so much. Yeah, I was waiting for an opportunity. I couldn't decide because Heath didn't actually blame Why for it. As far as he was concerned, it was one hundred percent's fault. But he he as much a prick as Heath was. I

think he knew because he didn't he didn't make too many comments. He didn't come up a lot about Luca. I think mainly when that episode happened where we all broke our personalities back out again. We were sort of trying to explain what happened. Even Heath didn't have the asshole in him to blame Fi because I think he knew it probably would have broken Effie a lot more than calling White a prick, which he'd done for the whole season and making it

brighter. Whyatt's issue, Yeah, that was one of That was one of the moments, like I could take this two ways. I could just call White a prick again, or I could like pin it on Effie and see if she just falls apart, because that would have broken her. Yeah. Good, Like the blame thing was shifted around a lot, like in the in the show and you know, in discorder, YouTube and stuff like that, like who's thought it was and stuff. I feel like there was like

a decent amount of blame all over the place. You know, tivious was he handled it so terribly considering he was in his position of power and authority. The way that the Union and the Second Committee do stuff is just fucking evil anyway, So like, straight up, they're awful. Wyatt's just a fucking piece of ship and an antagonistic person. So he incited the kind of tension that led to it. Straight up just went in, Luca went in, you know, like that was like there's a lot of blame that could

be shifted around. I feel like Stu and Heath are really the only ones who are relatively blameless, and maybe like some of the other scientists that were in the room and things, but I think there's it's a there was a lot of stuff, like everyone was trying to pin the blame on one person. I feel like I got a lot of the blame for that as why for being that way? But interesting that and wac woin't tell us the answer, but who in that room was U? N D? And who in

that room was second committee? Like this, like so if he goes and grabs us straight up grabs the soldier's gun, is that committee or are they

under un D? Smirking? Well, that was like that was like the whole the whole thing there is I think some some of us, I don't think we understood how the level of how far they would go, you know, that kind of thing, Like it didn't seem like it would be a situation where pushing them or at least verbally pushing them like why it was doing would lead to that sort of a situation because it hadn't before, right, You have been hading the like verbal confrontation with you know, Tivious all the

way up until that point, and it never ended in somebody like getting shot or guns being pulled or anything like that. So I don't think that it's far for why to assume that that's just your relationship with your brother. But if if if Tivius really knew how bad it could have gotten, that they could have mind wiped them, then why why would you inside I guess, knowing why it was going to be like thatbus was I think Tivius was guessing

as well. I think Tivious didn't know, at least from what I can I will just interject one word correct, I don't think tvious because at the end we got a lot of information on what Tivious and the Alpha Squad knew, and they had just suspected a lot, and they were gearing up to prepare to look into it a little more and put their asses on the line. But up to then they were just kind of playing it's safe, I

think. So it still seems strange to me the way Tivious was being Tivious, being heavy handed and like kicking the chair out from underwhyret was absurd, even if he was concerned, and he was just trying to figure out a way to quickly silent do what I ask. All he had to do was ask whyat And that's what kills me about that is like their brothers, he knows why it's going to be. So it was strange to me that he didn't just sit down, because that's all they wanted. The conversation prior to

is like, will you help us? We'll give you guys anything you want. And then the very next situation is like, you guys are soldiers and we're going to like start screaming at you and your civilians. And you've never been in this situation before, but how you are so very very crazy. Normally I don't really talk about I don't like to talk about like what happened

after and that kind of thing, but I will address this. So that's an excellent observation you made Pbe in that before there was a different sort of

atmosphere, uh, and then after it changed. That is because and like jay Uh sort of interjected that the what what people were Second Committee and what people were Third Committee, there was more of a Second Committee influence in that second meeting, and Tivious was starting to suspect that there was some Second Committee influence, which is why he took a hard stance on Wyatt and Tivious fucked up mischievous. Just because they're an MPC, it doesn't mean they can't get

is wrong or be shored exactly much more interesting. NPCs don't just have to be I give you this information. I'm a vendor question, you know. Yeah, they can be peopled too, and a lot of people if you go into a game and you're judging all of your NPCs is just that and everything they give you is just straight up information. It might be a mistake, and that I guess is a somewhat of a mistake that we would have made there. In just assuming that, you know, Tivius is doing exactly

the right thing to facilitate the story. That's meta gaming really, which is a lot of GMing. You have to do that. It's kind of hard not to have those NPCs and still run the thing in something that was mentioned that no one has really talked about, but Tivous killed the admiral that was in that room because of what happened, Yeah, that was the next thing that happened, which is why everything boiled, everything like came to a head

all at once. Taf he has said these suspicions. He was trying to do what he thought in the moment would be the way that he could convince the second Committee that he could be possibly get these people into line. And he couldn't communicate everything that he wanted to communicate in the situation, so everything

just fucking interacted with each other and got too fucked up to work. It was it's a it's an it's a it's one way to shot why up is to just embarrass him, you know, like kick the thing out from him and embarrassing him. It might have worked. There's definitely a version of Wyatt

that would have been like fuck this, you know. But and and I had Wyatt by the way, Wyatt Lamee was ontivious there pretty much up until the moment that he worked out that he'd killed the admiral straight after that incident happened because I accidentally blinked over to the room he was in to get that

information afterwards. So up until then, Whyatt was pretty confused with tivious because he pretty much blamed himself, even though out of character, I don't really blame why It, but in character Whyatt totally blamed himself for Luca, like entirely, but also had a lot of blame pinned on Tivious for that situation

until that moment. I think I had the same thought. Pebe thought it was Tivious either either that he just got caught up in the rivalry of his brother in a moment and kind of like lost his what he was supposed to be doing, or I did kind of think maybe he did it on purpose, knowing why it would escalate decisions so he could see who was on what side in that moment, and we just got a casualty by mistake. And then but Effie blamed herself one so yes, if if he had blamed Effie

ship let it just like crushed. Yeah. It was crazy. It was a super charged episode emotionally and everything it was. It was wild. I was like, I was fucking frustrated in the real world, you know, like sometimes I just I'm like, oh man, that was crazy, and then we end the episode and I'm like that I'm going to get some dinner. I held on to it for a bit. I was frustrated and confused. I didn't know what they've been on, couldn't work it out. It

was really hard to to get my head around for a little while. I still think it was absolutely should have gone. Like I'm happy it happened, you know, at the time, I was scared and confused in and out of character and just like I know what it was going on, what had happened. And Brad was pretty upset, I mean because he was like he I think you messaged me too, like I'm so sorry if I just fucked

up everything that you were going to do. I always feel like I ruined campaigns, and I get really worried that I didn't because you were just trying. I saw it as like out of character. I saw Whack trying to give me quest. Just have an I'm here to give you this quest. And I was like, well, in character, why it hates you the most. You're the app you're in charge. He hates you the most out

of everything. This is an authority figure telling him what to do. Like I was like, man, I have I feel myself going I have to

say this in character now fuck you? And I was like, oh, you know, I feel myself doing it, and I'm like, man, I don't know if I should even commit to character in these moments, or if I should just let Wank give us the fucking quest and then move on and be like I probably wouldn't, you know, really why It probably wouldn't have let that fucking guy Swan in and be like, you're all in the military, go fucking watch the floor with a toothbrush. You know, it's

okay he said the question. It would have been a completely different show. I agree, it would have been totally different. But also I do feel, you know, response, because sometimes I'm like, Wank just wants to fucking give us a question and move on to the next thing. You know, I don't know. Sometimes the the episode was supposed to be emotionally charged, I had. I had just like a fucked up plan, Like after the plant's over, I was like, you know what, I'm gonna fuck

it up now. I was like yeah. I was just like, I was like, okay, we did we did an arc for Stu, you know. And again I had planned. I was like, Okay, I'm going to try and get an ARC for every character into the show. And I had, you know, I had a different plan for the way that things were gonna go, which I won't talk about, but it was supposed to be like a much less intense version of what was happening originally. And yeah, I don't I don't think of it as a quest. Really,

it was kind of just a different it's just a different plan. I don't know that the show would have stayed in the same way. I did want to change things up a little bit. I had intended to have the blance Over be like super funny and then something was gonna hit you guys like. That was my intention when I came up. As soon as I thought up the blans Over, I was like, number one, this is gonna be

fucking hilarious. I wanted to do Weekend at Bernie's so bad. I was praying so hard that you guys were gonna take Bernie and try and go on a fucking adventure. I was like, please please make this weekend at Bernie's. It was I was. I was praying so hard. I was like, please take him from the fucking bathroom and go and bring him to the fucking movie studio and just have fucking high jinkson Sue. I was so ready for that, and let me down. You all let me down completely.

You didn't think that events Lanson that he killed Bernie Man twisted in the moment, I was like, I didn't expect it to get this dark? Uh uh NAOI so much darker for Whack? What NPCs did you least expect to make as big of an impact on the story as they did? I feel like none of them. I kind of feel like the other way around asking that question is probably better, Like which NPCs did I expect to make a

big impact and they didn't. It's probably Polly was supposed to way way bigger impact on things than she did, and then and then Skip was definitely supposed to make more of an impact. The Polly and Skip duo were supposed to be like way more important and uh no, who wasn't in it? Might Prism? Yeah, well, honestly, I talked about he's the guy. I talked about this previously, but I had changed that. Kaz and doctor Prism were supposed to be more involved, but I decided I was more interested

in what you guys were doing with your characters. So I just I do think I feel like I've spoken way too much, But I will say that I think one thing about this that it really stood out to me is that every MPC that you did present to us had a fucking good reason to be there and impacted perfectly like you did. There were no like throwaway in PCs, no no fuck around things, you know. I mean, I'm sure they were a little side element like yes sir, and then they walk off.

But every one of your main NPCs when they were presented to us, had a reason and put us somewhere, you know, not necessarily just been like a quest giver like I was saying before, but they did something. They all had an impact on us, all the story in such a way that they none of them are really forgettable, Like they all were there for a reason. They served a purpose, whether it was the purpose they were

intended for or not. So yeah, just make a GM comment there, because I know there are a lot of people that that's because WHAC played it. All of his NPCs reacted reacting what the players were doing, and a lot of gms will have your MPCs like either deliver and doing something and acting,

but they're not really truly reacting to what the players have done. So great, they feel like real characters, just like we're sitting here on these characters that we've played for weeks on weeks and weeks and weeks, and Whack presents us with one that feels like the same thing. They come in and they go, oh, I am this person. I'm real, you know, I am Estefania, I am the Red Star. You know, I

think, you know, like you're like, what the fuck? They seem very real, but every one of them was important as well, which is pretty It's pretty impressive. Thank you. I I I enjoy playing I mean, you know, you you know me, you know, I like playing a variety of different kind of characters and whatnot. I have a lot of fun doing it. One of the that's honestly one of the most enjoyable things for me as a GM is just coming up with NPCs that fit in the

situations. I build a lot of them off of what you are doing. You know, I am very reactionary with the NPCs. I'll come up with general ideas and just see how I can fit them in based on what you do, so that it feels natural. I feel like a lot of times that's what I spend a lot of prep time on is just thinking about those things. Yeah, because again I was really trying to make your characters the focus, and I wanted to enhance your characters through with the NPCs, like

the NPC's were tools to enhance your characters. That's a better way to say, Commander Stracts, did they really kill the Blue oryan? If yes, how is the firmament still existing? Great question? I'm not answering, Commander strats to everyone, what question would you have expected or hoped to come up? Because you would have wanted to talk about that, but it was not asked? How big is a great question? And ask me I'm kidding, But seriously, I don't really have any questions that I hoped I wanted to

answer. Whatever were there any I'll say something why not? Uh, there's two bits that I wanted to say. One is, yeah, is who was the inspiration for Heath? Because Heath, I will say this to whag

changed the second he came out of the tube. From who I was going to play literally like he was supposed to be, like from like from the eighteen howling Mad Murdoch was the inspiration for Heath, but he very quickly turned into a really asshole grumpy version via some vaguely violent prick version of how murdoc because I just was responding to the yeah, it's just the like even like how yeah, Like I wake up my friends are being killed as some prick

with a rifle, and it just kind of you know, it's like I hate to use this term. Even like when if I get a script for a game or something, we say what once you get a character up on its feet, it suddenly becomes something different immediately. And as soon as I was like he walking around, I was like, oh no, he's got he's got more swagger and he's a bit grumpier and he can't be fucked then because it's because you were walking up mid sleep. It's just on the wrong

side of the bed. That's how waking up from just this horrible like I was, what is this and just having that that that grumpy day. Yeah think then he throw But that's really cool, you know how you're you're little like, don't make that face. It'll stay that way. That's what happens when you're when you've got the serum, you work up on the wrong side of the bed and it just stuck. You also work up with a tube hanging out is yeah, there was that what I will be remembered for till

the end of time. So thanks for that, because yeah, I think as well, like from what I'd seen of Zbo before and then just just diving in like he was he was supposed to have like all these weird tics, like I wanted him just to be like, all right, we've got to go down to the hangar bay of cheese. What has a complete side effect? Like that's what the serum had done to we. We just messed

him up a little bit. Like but then as the like the tone shifted slightly, I was like, that would have worked, but it would have been very different and I think would have got quite tiring after one or two episodes of it. So I was like, that's been that. So he completely was a fly by the seat of my pants really every episode, just like I didn't plan anything for him. I just went, well, it's just I know what Heath is and what he does, so we'll just see

what happens. Was your first like table tap role playing show that you've been your first game as well? Yeah, I've never played before Zo. That was great to go into Lanta. That was super system for me. Yeah, it's nothing you aren't playing now though, yeah, that's true. Yeah,

WA's roll twenty Okay, that was good. And the only other thing I was going to say is is because we had this discussion, I went spoiled too much because but it was an amusing after show discussion of the finale about Heath's the end of Heath question mark, you talk about that the complete, the complete misunderstanding. Yeah, yes, so during like obviously he got or the Meg got decapitated and as as we think, we all ended back in summer, and I was messaging Whack at the same time, going am

I dead? Because I wasn't quite sure, and I think there was like a slight pause where like I think Fie said, like, Heath, can you get us home? And it's just ever such a slight pause because I'm like, I'm just waiting for Wack to answer, and I'm trying to remember it was like Meg destroyed equals exclamation mark ye something, and you're GMing, especially a combat heavy system, your brain your brain goes like I would love to see a brain scan or something during a show. I want to see

one so bad. Because they equated StarCraft two and StarCraft breod War to be the equivalent of like taking the S A T S every time you play. I feel it's the same thing, like your brain is just crazy. So I'm trying to manage and produce all these things. And I write in the zoom chat like mech destroyed exclamation point equals death, which means does not mean dead. But Jay doesn't know that. I'm thinking in my head like he's in it. You know, he probably knows this, but like I'm not

thinking that through. I'm trying to do like twelve other things, like the show's ending, like that must be a typo. That's gotta be equals because the immediately he wasn't despite the fact I worked in it, I didn't use that language, so I didn't even know anyway. I was like, Okay, that's gotta be a type because machine hooked up so every week you need to pull something on the fly. I was like, okay, but I think that is where I could go. Is that all actually thinking about it?

Because all Heath knows is like my met got hit and I woke up in the firmament. Like that doesn't like he could just then come back, like he All he knows is I'm in the firmament. He might think he's dead, but for all we know, he could wake up back in the real world with a hangover, and just like for fux sake, I thought it was all over. I weirdly, I really like the idea that he

is canonically dead because whack mistyped perfect how did you die? Type? Oh yeah, what he wanted, Like, if the opportunity had come up like I would, I would have killed Heathen an instant, in like a in a sacrifice moment. It's the only thing he would have been begging for it. Since we were dripping on space. He'd have been the terminator thumb going down, going oh yeah, trick as he like grabbed Casmiro into the lava like they hit. That would have been fine. He'd have gone out like

that. So he's kind of happy. I guess that was it was saying, yeah, William Wall five one two. Would the crew break out Elsa in the future, It's probably like why we had we had three We had three missions with the Alpha Squad collectivis and collected Lisa, and then Firefly, you know, begins. I imagine at least wasn't she like, wasn't didn't she willingly be like, I have to go went was because she she recognized that she was having mental health issues and she needed help. Yeah, all

right, I don't know if I have I don't know. But then we would we would pick her up and be like, hey, where all the same, Let's go together? They are, yes, Hello, Yeah, we have a therapist on the ship. You'll be fine, let's go. That's not me. I don't actually okay, well hello chill Panda. Pandana asked, Okay, So I was really wondering for the creation of the character Stu Rashman Flanagan, was it inspired by the character Zap Brannigan from Future?

Yes? Also, but also Stuve Flanigan is a role play character you've played before, right, Yeah? Made him three years ago. Uh, he's a role play on ARC and I'm doing it now right now now now I'm back forward slash or a hashtag. But I am I am playing. Yeah, he's a I played him before as a captain and I still am playing him as a captain of the Galactic Space Force and he still has a captain.

I know. It's so good. The show Cowards kept being there's a there's a couple of puns in this show that I kept wanting to come up, and I was waiting for a conversation between flannagain and an NPC where an NPC when something like, oh, I feel like a new man again, and he went, no, it's Flanna again, not man again. I

don't know why. I just was waiting for it. That's a specific conversation, anticipatory puns with I said to I'm going to do it now because it's my last chance to do it, I said to Whack I think the very first episode, like before we went live, there was a phrase I wanted Heath to somehow put in if I ever got to fire and do a really good attack, just going to be if you can't stand the heath, get out of the kitchen. And I never got to do it. I was

so sad you were a minimum. That's so bad. I don't I don't. I don't remember that, and I feel like there's a reason. And I was like, I've already pissed wack off and I've not even started playing. Ye, he's going to kill me. Accurate? Accurate? Can we have one more stew book quote? Thing? Says Brad. I was timing it really quickly because I knew you were about to go, well, that's the end. One more from the book, just to close us out.

Yeah, you know I can actually pull it up. I would. I would just write random, So you have how many quotes do you have in there in this document, this pdf thing that you're gonna publish. I only have five? Got it? I gotta get cracking. I was good to make like at least twenty, so like at random points, I could just pull it up and like I have an excuse to use it, but like

they're never there weren't too many scenarios do it? All of them? Okay, that's gonna say grade five that he has written down on this I've spot yeah or all of I literally cracked open my notepad and I was like, okay, I need to explain that he has a book, but I don't have any quotes, and I need to start coming up with some stuff right now. So while the show is going on, I was like, this will work, and some of are just like, yeah, number sixty nine

is yes, Number fourteen is UFD. What would Flannagan do? Speaking of which, someone said and I forgot to write it down, but somebody said that this roundtable should be one hundred and one ways to bullshit your way through a answer, Kip God. That was definitely my thinking throughout the entire thing. Yeah, Shadow of the wreck God. Were Wyatt to ever roll triples at one point? Were their plans had to move forward with that? Or

would you just bloop out of the show. I had zero plans that happening. I'll be completely So the rules changed for that mechanic halfway through, and when we were given the original book, the rules were that my mech disappears and I just remain as a pilot. But then when they released the book, the rule was that you just straight up vanished until the end of the

scene and then return. I can't remember with or without the mech, so depending on when the campaig it happened, Yeah, it would have been very interesting. I could you imagine getting blinked out of the campaign and then halfway through they patch it and you're like, fuck, you just come back, like, hi, guys, what's up now? You blinked back? Hero from Heroes? Yeah. I was so stuck on that because it's like a

free move. It's like so weird and broken and strangely worded that you can just was But I I from the role play perspective, I really wanted it to happen, but from the from the combat mechanic perspective, I really didn't. I was like, it's hard be I'd just be out of the show for like four weeks. So I was like, I wasn't sure if I wanted it to happen, Like the chaotic part of me really really wanted to vanish because it was just cool. But yeah, I was very concerned about

it happening. And then I just was like, oh, man, I don't know what the hell we do with that. From the fact that I would just banished for you know, twelve weeks of combat uh Invisionable asks who was each of your favorite characters? And then we'll wrap things up? Why obviously you're talking about these guys suck. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna say, Luca, it's one for one very selfish reason, And I said I said

this in chat. Yeah, the scene with with Myth in Space and Luca in Space where we jumped out of the back of the thing like genuinely, for me, like professionally or personally, that is one of the most interesting scenes I've ever got to perform. And it was like genuine tears. It was. It was fucking lovely. I loved it and we ever grateful for for Tabletop giving me a chance to do that kind of improv It was.

It was just like and wonderful. And I just loved Luca as a as an arc, as a character, as that nice paradox of the the absolute unit. It will rip your arm. It's a wookie. I'm also nice to couple like. I just loved it. So, yeah, there we go. That's my that's my mistake in the ground. Who's next? I loved them all, I really did. If I had to pick one, Stu Sue was my favorite character. Are you kidding me? It's too good. I really liked being a being the clone like and like, that was

so cool. I know it didn't it from the through the plot and everything weaving and mixing, but just I think that was just such a cool uh path and story and arc that we saw in the journey that Effie took, both both Peebe and Effie took the entire time was just super cool. And Pbe adjusting everything on the fly was super awesome. But to also see Fie be conflicted with numerous characters which were still the same character was super super cool

to see and watch. Yeah, that was pretty tough and like this is the Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that fist. What about you. I'm also with BB on this one. I loved everybody. I'm not also saying that I love Stu, but I'm not. I think Stu is my favorite character. No, I liked. I liked Wyatt's character, and simply because the cigarette bit always got me. Like I think the first one, like walking outside to like one hundred and like twenty five degree weather to smoke

a sick dedication because social just like we're just meeting each other. It's like I was thinking their third scene and You're like, I gotta get it, just like it said the scene so well, it was like, all right, well, I know his character is now it's like I don't care what it is it so I just want It was so frustrating not having cigarettes at

the end, right because I just didn't physically have any. And although I was playing, I was using the cigarettes a little bit too to show that Wyatt had changed, right, he didn't need to smoke anymore because he wasn't relying on anything as a crutch because he had his own internal strength to you know, stand up right or whatever. But also I did kind of want

to do this thing. Where as he became slightly more anxious and the edges began to fray, he would maybe pull out a cigarette and it wasn't like he needed it like as a reliant thing. It was just an old habit kind of situation at the end. Also, I bought these and didn't get to use them for multiple sessions at the end, like months, I have these fake cigarettes. Now, why It's character was my favorite. That was that was a pleasure to watch. That's really really good. What about what

about you? Jay Me? Yeah, said Lucas. Yeah, it's so tough because there's there's like little bits of every character that I just absolutely adore, Like like, let me think about it. It's it's so tough. Like Stu's naivete as well, like he's just like he's like a child, but not a child. It's just like just yeah, and Brad, as much as Why it was a prick, he was a superb fucking character.

I mean the arc you took him on Bravo, Yeah, why it was just superb, just such a full character and seeing him go through that I think he's probably probably the character of all of them that changed the most from beginning to end, definitely, I think and continued continued innocence and just that I can't do attitude all the way to the end, even when like her

world was kind of coming up a little bit. But yeah, no, I mean, like I said, I mean I love all of them, but Luca will still have a little special cuddly grappli place in my heart. I understand. That was some really great scene, and thank you and echo everything you said. It was awesome. It was really wonderful and and a beautiful role play with you and to have that scene it was really really cool. Yeah, I'm going to do the parent thing as well and just say

all of the characters were were fantastic overall in general. You know, it was an absolute pleasure doing the show with everybody. And even though Colo couldn't be here as well. I loved the way that she played Elisa and playing that honestly, playing that you know, hated character, the bad guy, like the the one that's always sort of perceived as you know, the the

heel U is tough. That's a tough character to play, and Colo did that on her first adventure into tabletop role playing in a system that is extremely complicated. So we had three people on this show that it was their first time doing a tabletop role playing game, and it was also one of the most complex that I've ever played. That's that's tough. That's double tough, Okay. I I give her a lot of prompts for doing that. And you know, uh, if you want to talk to Colo about because I

did. I did see the question. There was a question that asked like, why you know, why did Colo leave? That's that's up for Colo to answer. I don't feel like answering now when she's not here. Is I fired half for being mean to Wyat every week? That was why I actually, I was said on the stream before you know that Harry Potter's made for her and she gets to one or the other do to her schedule. So you know, I really I think Heath and Elisa would have romanced that.

Yeah, I like to have I'd love to have rpid that more because I think it was yeah, but it still hadn't It was great to have two characters where like at least it was all about a lot of you know, very defensive very aggressive, calling everyone, you know, pulling everyone out. When she did it with he because Heath is just an arsehole, he just went, yeah, no, you're right. I like that. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. That like reverse butting heads, like trying to butt

heads and having nothing to go against. And I would have I really enjoyed like the scenes with but that would have been really nice to kind of explore watch ye at least someone who's like, I'm not going to fight you, this is fine. We also a hacker. We needed so much and we didn't have one just in the team comp from the mechanics of the combat, but it was like Luca killed all the bad guys at the end and she

hacked the AI thing. None of us actually saved the world. None of the active members did anything, like we just funked around and those two did the world SAA universe saving things, which is actually really apt. I think it was kind of cool that they got a little nod because, yeah, at least it was such a great character. I was devastated to lose it because she was totally like my antidote character. I was like, oh funk, I'm just unhinged now, you know, I got unchanged I'm just I

don't have anyone to just lit me every week. I was like, oh, what do I I have no character art now because I lost this, like we have the dad, the nice dad figure, and I was like, that's not going to work on like the the mom with the rolling pin head, which I lost. And I was very sad to lose Alisa as a character, so sad to lose Colo as a player. Though it's just terrible you won't see her on this channel again tomorrow, all joke everything.

I said, it's fine. Question earlier about if we were to change one thing system or appear or anything, what would it be, And I think it would be adding another web another webcam window to the underlay and having a Lisa come back, because that would have been that would have been really cool to see that that all of that and how we should interact with the real reality. To have a basically had and lacer in it the whole time.

Also basically impossible with the system. Trying to jam pack seven people into the system. Would like an extra two episodes everything for every single one. Yeah, or just play a character that does one thing and that's it, and that's either grappling or maybe moving people around. That was how I came up with that. I was like, I'm gonna I am going this. This looks completing, but I'm just going to push people. I'm gonna sniper.

That's yeah, yeah, all I do. Yeah. So that's gonna wrap things up for a wrap up. Let's we're gonna we're gonna do some shout outs and whatnot. But before we do that, I I just want to give a big thank you to everyone that participated in this show. You you are the reason that the show was so great, and I really appreciate how much effort you put into all of your characters, and it was it was

really special. So thank you so much. Thank you Mith, thank you Fist, thank you Peb, thank you Jay, thank you Brad, and thank you Colo because you just you did such an amazing job and I looked forward to how your characters were going to react to every situation and it was very exciting. And I also want to give a big shout out to Chat and all of our supporters for just supporting the show like you did. You know you're you were super invested in everything and we had some amazing fan art

I see their city. Thank you so much for all that fan art, and thank you for just being active and being invested. Thank you so much. Let's go around the room, let's do some shout outs, and let's say our goodbyes. Pb could you start us off please? Sure? Of course. I'm pumpkin Berry and I played Efriella for you for this show,

and you can find me at Twitch and Twitter at pumpkin Berry. I am also here on Wednesdays GMing the new surreal thriller Gone, Brad's in that one, Myths and that one as well, and a whole bunch of other really really awesome role players, so you should come check that out. And then I'm here again on Sunday in Brad's show Dying Order, where I play an old woman and I love her a lot, and come check that out as well. Thank you for having me Wacan, Thank you for telling such an

amazing story. I'm very attached to zb O. Thank you Mith. Oh boy. So I kept my outcros and intros pretty brief throughout the series, but I'm not going to do that now because it's the last one. Thank you everybody for being a part of this and uh telling the story with us, and thank you for having me a part of it. I say, I say thank you and thank you for trusting me with all this stuff a

lot, because I am super nervous about it. I was super shy getting into this, super nervous to play with all of you and to hang and to be a part of this story, especially in a genre that I'm not really super familiar with anime, so it was a challenge for me there. But also to just welcome me in with open arms to tell the story of Luca and also doctor Quanta Zephyr, doctor Donovan Zephyr was just really awesome.

And you guys have been super supportive throughout this whole thing, and I thank you very very much for having my back and lifting me up as a person and as a role player and as a cast member here on table story. So thank you for that. My name is Mythematic. I'm a roleplay streamer and voice actor here on Twitch. You can find me over on Twitter dot com slash Mythematic, where you can see what I'm doing when I'm doing it. I usually stream Star Citizen once or twice a week. Over on my

channel, I do a full cinematic ARP experience. You can check that out I also do a lot of Like I said, I'll do a lot of RP and things. I'm constantly playing Make Believe. So if you like telling stories, check me out. Thank you very much once again, this is great. I can't wait for more shows with all of you, and I can't wait to just to tell stories again. So thank you. This is really wonderful. Thank you Mith. We're happy to have you join us. Jay. It's gm WIN. Sorry, Hi, I follow that now.

Thanks. I'm Jay Britain. You can find me on Twitch Jay Brittain. It's really easy. I'm currently dying a lot in Dark Souls. To come and watch me play with my face that's always great fun. Yes by exclamation point equals and dark king. Yeah, it's you know, you die in Dark Souls. It's just all the time. You're always dead in Dark Souls.

That's how the game goes. But my chat likes to wait until i've like I'm on my fifteenth run on a boss and I've got it finally got it down to the third hel health and they redeem like a play with one hand or play with my eyes closed because they're horrible people. So yeah, come and come to my channel and fuck with me this. I mean, I'm just gonna be echoing the words of everyone. Really, this was amazing, This was wonderful. It was a joy to get to play with everyone

here, and I become incredibly attached to Hea. He was just just so much fun to play. And the characters in this world are all wonderful and magnificent. And yeah, you know, similarly for my first table Story show and Tabletop show for that matter, like there was a little bit of Oh, I'm coming to play with people I've watched for a while. This is

slightly weird, but okay, let's let's give this a go. And I think it speaks a lot to the quality that Table Story puts out, Like acting is my day job, and yet every half an hour before ZBO and it's like a little bit, oh, okay, come on, Jaye, do good be good, Okay, Like people expect goodness on this channel. So that I think that says a lot about what Table Story does. So thank you for trusting me to come on. Thank you Chat for enjoying Heath

minimum damage Marko Brown. One day, I'll punch a three and that's it from me. There you go, ended on a pun. What a segue. Yeahst Hello, I'm fisted the WAUS and I played too Flanagan, and I'm very happy about a year ago Brad invited me to this, And usually I'm not too familiar with this sort of style of role play. I've done a lot of roleplay on just open world survival games like ARC and GTA, But I can safely say after this i am better for having been on the

show. And I'm very grateful to have met so many amazing role players and had a fantastic time being a part of the story and just getting to know the community and really getting a chance to broaden my horizons as far as tabletop RP goes and say I'm sufficiently hooked to the style of RP. It's been

an amazing experience. But speaking of open world survival games, currently, I'm back on my ARC kick with Captain flan again an iteration of plan again if he were to be a position of power that would endanger people's lives, And yeah, that's a lot of interesting stuff going on over there. Other than that, I am pretty much just doing that for the most part. I really will miss this ahead a fantastic time. Thank you so much again for

having me and thank you guys for watching and supporting. Thank you so much. And don't worry first, we'll definitely have you back on for something else. Don't you worry somebody that we definitely won't have on for anything else. Brad me. Yeah. I spoke all a bunch last week about how the show affected me on a personal level. To be honest, I feel like my character went through some things that I was able to draw from personally and

kind of use to influence the role play that I did here. So it was really interesting to think about and be able to do that in a tabletop game kind of. I know, we all kind of do that a bit. Sometimes you're like, wow, I just went through a thing that I'm just thinking about today. It was strange to actively do that and kind of go, yeah, that's something that I've thought about before. But I don't

think I would even ever have considered it. I don't think unless I was surrounded by people that were as good at what they do as you guys have all been. This cast is ridiculous. Sometimes you get a cast of people that just have such great synergy that it just bleeds through so effortlessly. You just don't even you don't even notice how well we're all working together until like the end, and you look back at it and go, well, that

was awesome. And sometimes you play in games and you're like, man, this is awful, which is all my games I run tune in on Sunday. And sometimes you really feel like you're a part of something. And I feel like, for me, I'm a weird per and I struggle to be sincere and to put my best version of me forward. And when I'm surrounded by people that really are this good, I feel like I have to step

up. So I actually try, and I actively try, and I'm always I'm always kind of proud of myself when I do it a bit, and then we all build something really special, which I think this was. I feel like this really is one of those shows that I'll look back on and always think that was awesome. And I really felt that on so many levels.

And it was just, I think really just due to you guys being so good, and it makes me feel like I have to step up and then and then I do, I do so and we all come together and I'm not going to cry. HM. Also, fuck you guys, No, it was it was special. And I I feel like there's been a couple of shows that I've been on where I go, wow, that has changed me and made me want to be better, not just in role play

but just as a human being. And sometimes I feel like get like really strong casts that really bring that out in me and maybe each other, I don't know. And this really felt like that for me. So I've really enjoyed it, and I think I think it came through the screen because people really came attached to these characters. And I think a lot of it is that I think we all brought it and it really was something that just naturally felt very strong, and yeah, I'm going to miss it. I'm going

to miss it. I don't, I know, wax thing of like, no, I never do a season two and never push it and stuff,

and I'm so I'm always on side with that mentality. But I keep making the joke about season two because deep down I think I really I'm like, just just it's okay, whack, we can just break that role once one time, just one time, yeah, because sometimes you do have it, and you do have such a strong cast and such an trusting show, and yeah, it really was all thanks to me, and so I would like to point out it was actually thanks to Brad and PB that the show happened

in the first place. We have our we have our we have a like a database of different systems and show ideas that we have, and to be fair, I came up with it, but I put it in there as a possibility. I'm like, oh, this Lancer system is about big mechsan things. And then I just started screaming yeah, you know, and and I had like I have you know, I have I always have a ton of different show ideas that are percolating. But Brad and Peeb were like, we need to do that one, and I was like, okay, let's

do that one. I said, this system looks pretty tough. I'm also, hey, let's do it. You know. That's kind of what happened, and Lanca blew us up as well. At the beginning. The people at LANSA that was huge and just for being supportive and explaining the rules and coming by and like helping us. They were very, very helpful and quite a few people came from the Lancer community as well, So thanks for coming

over and enjoying it. And it wasn't very rules heavy I think a lot of people were coming to watch it to learn the rules, and then we were like, but Luca, I love him, and I was like, what the fuck? Shoot something, shoot something in the nex. Yeah, it was I don't know, accurate to have Lancer, to have Lanza support the show. You know, I'm Wax Stephen. Thank you as I as I said before, thank you to everybody that participated, and thank you Chad

for being here. As always, we appreciate you. Thank you so much. And uh yeah, I I really enjoyed this show a lot, you know, despite how difficult it was to to to run. From a show standpoint, it heavily taxed me. After every single episode, I was annihilated. I was just I feel like I still was recovering, like the day

after. Uh so, what you're saying is Witchcraft and Wizardry is about to blow up because you're not going to have anything that's yeah if you yeah, if you were like, God, this Witchcraft and Wizardry show did Wax Stephen doesn't put any effort into that. Uh, it's just gonna get better. So yeah, my brains. Episode of witch Crossing is it going to be like what the fuck? Why is this nominated for a real BATHTA What's Happening? But yeah it was. It was definitely super challenging, but every week

was look forward to because of these wonderful people. So thank you so much, and yeah, I have nothing else to say. I hope you all have a wonderful rest of your Monday, and you make sure that you follow all of these wonderful people. Please go follow them. They were fantastic, they were great role players. Make sure you follow Coolo, two and and and go give them some monetary support if you can swing it. If you

can't, then don't do that. And if you want to help support table Story, check out our Patreon, table story dot tv slash pledge for that. And yeah, we'll hopefully see you tomorrow for Witchcraft and Wizardry. Peace out. I have a wonderful rest of your Monday. Goodbye everybody. St

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