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I am super pumped to have the wonderful, extremely talented, the very funny Michelle Braziet on you ain't seen nothing yet today. I am a massive fan. She's one of the most watchable performers doing the circuit at the moment. She's been plying her craft for over ten years. Early days, she was in a group called a Double Denim and more recently well then shifted over with hanging out with the Only Donna Boys, became part of their troop and appeared in their shows, their TV shows as I was
their live shows. But in more recent years it's really broken out to announce herself as one of the most enjoyable, watchable, talented solo performers. She did the show a couple of years ago called Average Bear, which blew me away. I was such a massive fan of that show. I loved it so much. And she has gone on and to perform that show around the world New York, La, London, Edinburgh. She has done it all. She's absolutely kicking major goals. At the moment, I got into do a few episodes
of How to Stay Married. She was hilarious in that is so much fun to work with. Also, she's been Get Cracking. You may recognize her and Get Cracking and fans of Sew Michaela's Mad as Hell would know her. She actually also writes and provides voice for Yollow Crystal Fantasy. That's a massive cult show in the world of animation. But she has also appeared on Drunk History, Hoovey and she's she's doing She's literally doing it all. She can see.
She's got an amazing voice. She's a beautiful singer. And she's walking into the Red Nads. I doing an introduction coming with Michelle, and there's raving you up. Michelle's also an author. Her book, her best selling book, My Brother's Ashes Are in a Sandwich Bag hilarious, But you're so kind of heartbreaking, and there's there's so much stuff loaded into that book. Apple had it. There's one of the big, massive, next big thing book, so get onto it. Audible. He
went massive on audible. Michelle did the Ordible. She did the recording herself. You can listen to Michelle actually read the book and her also her next year, the Comedy Festival shows are on Sophie listening to this as it comes out, and Michelle's show is called It's a Shame We won't be friends next year A Grannie assume that he is about Brodon Kelly, but maybe not. I don't know.
We'll talk to Michelle about that. Michelle is extremely talented, as I've said, hilarious and I'm bloody Stoke can be hanging with her to that.
Hello, I'm Michelle Brazier. My favorite films are. This is very hard because I'm like, I want to do my letterbox top four and I have to drop off A four. But I'm going to go Paddington too.
We can still hear you, mister Brown.
That was the light you turned off. The microphone is on the other side.
It's got microphone written on it.
Waiting for Guffman.
We had the first sighting here in nineteen forty six. And it wasn't just a sadie. They just can fly by.
They stopped, they landed, The people in Blaine went on board the ship, pot lucked, dinner.
And Furious seven.
You risk life and limb to say, the free world?
And what do they give you?
Jello and a bad seventies TV show?
But up ut yesterday, I had never seen being John Malkovich. Now, when you say that I can be somebody else, what do you mean exactly?
Well, we mean exactly that we can put you inside someone else's body for fifteen minutes.
Can I be anybody that I want to be?
Well, you, actually you can be John Malkovich.
It's perfect. It's my second choice, but it's wonderful. I'm a fat man, i am sad, and I'm two hundred dollars. Oh oh h yes, yes. Struggling puppeteer Craig Schwartz John Kuzak is married to animal rescue at Lottie and almost unrecognizable Cameron Diaz. Anxious, insecure, and perhaps a little depressed, Craig applies for a filing job at a mysterious company located on the seven and a half floor of a
New York skyscraper. Craig gets the job, falls in love with a seemingly unattainable Maxine Katherine Keener, and happens to come across a portal into the body of acclaimed actor and thespian John Melkovich played by John Malkovich. From a script by the enigmatic Charlie Kauffman the feature debut of Spike Jones. It's a miracle this film ever got made. A puppeteer finds a portal into the body of John Malkovich, which allows customers access to Malkovich for fifteen minutes before
being spat out alongside the new Jersey Turnpike. Yet welcome to the world of Charlie Kaufman, Michelle Brazier. Have you ever entered the mind of John Malkovich or any celebrity for that matter.
I never have, and you know, watching this, I really regretted it. I thought so. The moral of this story seems to be that you should enter into John Malkovich if you get the chance, nothing will go wrong and it will be good. So, yeah, no, I haven't have you.
No, No, I've come close. When I'm at the door, when I'm kneeling down and I go I'll go through the portal.
I'm scared of the slide.
Yes, I'm spooked. I like the there.
I hate being wet. It looks wet in there.
It looks wet. Once you get there, it seemed like a reasonably pleasant destination.
That's true. That is true. You know you've got a weigh the pros and the.
Col You certainly do. Michelle, thank you so much for being on. You ain't see nothing yet. We've been negotiating this. It feels like for quite a while.
Our text message through it is simply just cancelations and reorganizations of doing this podcast.
Yes, so thank you so much for finally getting here and for being in the country, because you've been cheering around everywhere.
Yes, and this is a film.
I'm so excited because you know, after people say I haven't seen this film, I'm like, yeah, okay, then fair enough, let's watch that film. But this is when you said you hadn't seen being That kind of blew my mind a little bit because I would have thought, and you know, we'll getting to whether you liked it or not soon, but I would have thought this was one of those films that maybe would have been like a seminal film for you.
I think it should have been, and I I when you look at me, you you might conclude that this was one of the main ingredients. But I had not seen it, which is a shock. But I think I thought I thought it was a drama for starters. I thought it was a drama. I didn't know it was Charlie Kaufman. I didn't know it was Spike Jones. I didn't know any of that stuff. I was like, oh, yeah, that sounds like I don't know, like one of you
know that. I put it in the same world as like that movie that's about Alan Turing, that drama about the guy, you know, the one, Yeah, another one. It's not I know everyone's annoyed now, is it. But I was like, oh, you know, those movies that are probably important to see, but like I can't really be bothered sitting through the drama of it all. Yeah, that kind of that's what I thought it was. I didn't know it was just like surreal, absurd, big swing of a film.
It is a massive swing, and like I said, it's and I think it was. You know, we'll talk about whether you enjoyed it them not soon. I want to talk about your three favorite films. But I think just the celebration that this film got made, like it's fantastic. It's if you if you did not enjoy the film, if you I didn't quite work for me, celebrate the fact that this film has got made.
That somebody said, yeah, somebody said yes, let's make this. I love a big swing. I really love a big swing. I've really been enjoying them lately. I loved Saltburn. I love anything that's just like I'm just going for it. I'm like, yeah, let's go, let's fucking go.
That's it. And it's kind up a little bit in the podcast recently where you know, people are saying, oh, the only movies that have IP get made, and it's you know, I can understand that, and Marvel films and all this stuff, but there's still like they're still yogist making films, and they're still you know, Reuben austronm banking on his name you direct or Swedish and they're making like still great films, and put On Sanderson is still making great films. And there are still and the new
filmmakers all the time coming through. You can't because they can't start with making it a Marvel film or you know, Handed the Keys to Barbie or whatever. You still have to work out and those those filmmakers have to make a making I think, maybe more interesting films.
I think so well. I mean it's interesting about like the Substance, which I also adored, and that was her second feature, I believe, but I think also a second big swing. I think the first one was also kind of a big maybe less of a high concept, but also a really big swing. I just am really interested in that, Like, yeah, let's just make a really weird thing. It is really nice, and people don't go and see it? What's that? What was the one before? Kinds of Kindness
with poor things, poor things? I adored poor things, And even if you hated poor things, it's like, well at least it's new.
Well exactly, and you go. I mean, the favorite was amazing, and the.
Lobster favorite was so good.
It's my favorite of his is so good, and and and Ruben Asland the Triangle of Sadness was.
Like, oh my god, being in the cinema for Triangle of Sadness in that I won't ruin it, but in that particular scene and the third Active Triangle of Sadness being a completely different film, but maybe the best one in the three films.
Three these three acts in that film, and they all feel like different it could potentially be different films. It's it's so good enforce measure, Like it's just.
Everything everywhere all at once. Big swings, swing, big girls, let's go keep going.
Past Lives maybe not the biggest as a swing, but still like it's a beautiful original film.
So that's what I like. I like something that's like either Past Lives or the substance. I want to see something that is tiny or something that is enormous. I'm not interested in the middle at this current moment, in my current.
Life, current life and your next life. Who knows films you'll be.
Into once I'm inside John Malkovich, Oh well, probably be into all kinds of different movies.
The way this podcast episode ends, if you look over in the corner the cupboard, this a little slightly a jar. Oh yeah, it's actually Roves mind. Actually couldn't, I couldn't find them.
Always wanted to be in.
I've been so close so many times. Let's so about your three favorite films. I'm so glad that Paddington Too. I've been raving about Paddington too. I'm doing Peter and the Starcatch at the moment, and you know, because there's there's twelve actors all hanging out a lot and if you hadn't seen Paddington Too, and I know you need to, and they had John Batchelor and Paul Captu has had no idea that Paddington Too was this actual is genuinely great,
as is Padington Won, but Paddington too. He's like the godfather too of Paddington movies. And he's a genuinely great film. And I saw you Grant talking about it on Instagram recently and I was look. He said, like it's it's considered a letter box is maybe like the most popular, yeah, alm or something like that. Yeah, so it is an extraordinary film.
I had one hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes at least when I first watched it for like a while.
Yeah, it was.
It's so good. It's so beautiful. I love whimsy. I when I was picking which movie to say, it was between that and Marcel The Shell with Shoes On, because I just love that kind of whimsy. I really adore it. There's something about the like what we perceive as British nests, which I think is actually not real, but the idea of Britishness that's very like adds to that. And then this beautiful story about this bear who is just very kind and the design is stunning.
Yeah, it's like it's one of the biggest surprises at a cinema that I I mean maybe because I've seen Pennington. It wasn't as a supprise the surprise I go the first Pennington was like, oh wow, this is this is much big. I wasn't going to see it, and then I heard all these things you say, and I saw it because of the age now where my kids a old enough, they're probably not going to come to those films with you. There was too good for school for that,
those kind of films just right now. So you know, if I see picks up film and probably watching it by myself taking the kids to see picks out films the now back in the cinema by.
Myself, they've aged out and they have an age back in exactly.
And they will age back in. But yeah, so that was a surprise. And then to see Patting Them two and go, oh, it's even better.
It was beautiful. By the time I saw Paddington One, Paddington two was already out, and Broden Kelly said to me, Paddington two is your favorite movie. And I said I haven't seen it, and he said, I know, but it's your favorite movie. You're going to fucking love it. And so I was like, do you have to watch Paddington One. He was like, not really, but like it's also really good. It's your second favorite movie. And I was like, okay. So I went home and I watched the Paddington's and
I was just daw on the floor. But yeah, I saw them at home. I loved them.
But it's so good if you haven't seen any of the Paddington is the third one coming out in the New year. Actually, Waiting for Guffman what a film. I mean, it feels like a meetings you know very much, you know, a comedians kind of film. Yeah, obviously stacked with comedians and comic performers, but just just so good.
Yeah, so good. I love all the Christopher Guest films. I really love A Mighty Wind, which is the folk music mockumentary, but I think Waiting for Guffman takes the cake. For me because it's about music theater, amateur music theater society, and that is just where my heart lives. That's the funniest place in the world for me.
I do try to sometimes make a case because Guffman, clearly amongst comedians, seems to be the one that we all love because it wasn't necessarily the first obviously spinal tap Guffman, but there's a bit of a gap between that and Guffin coming out, and it just seems to be the one that everyone loves. Best in shows obviously.
Great, best in shows great. I mean, you can't argument there's dogs in it. Yeah, it's so good.
And for your consideration, is underrated. I think as well, that's about actors, and I was just coming up and trying the lobby and all of that, and I sometimes try to make the case for a Mighty Wind or in Shah or even for your consideration. But the fact is, I think Pam for pound for Guffin is the funniest.
It's very quotable, like in all the songs. It's just a really fabulous pairing of worlds. But I mean saying that A Mighty Wind has the most incredible music in it like it's really good, genuinely good and really funny. So it's kind of I think A Mighty Wind is very moving as well. Yeah, like the kiss at the end of the Rainbow is very like yeah, oh, like
I think I've cried a few times in that. Also, my favorite comedic moment ever is in In a Mighty Wind when they're all someone's died and they're having a minute silence for him who's died at the wake, and then they're like, actually, can we make it a hum? Can everyone do a hum? Because obviously it's like folk music, and so they're all humming, and then you hear this like ho and it pans around and you get to Jennifer Coolidge and she's humming, but her mouth is open
and it's the most absurd honk. And it's really good shot. And that's a really funny reveal. It's just it's my that is the main ingredient in Who I Am. I think that one scene.
Yeah. The term that I always use a lot is Fred Willard when he strikes the chair. You want me to strike this? I know? Other terms I'm using a term in theater or even TV or film. I'm like, yeah, I know the terms another term, but what a collection of like Eugene Levy and Katherine o Harr, you know, always seem to be coupled together in these films, and yeah, just I mean a beautiful mix of talent and all just at the top of their game and executing and yeah,
so good. I could watch I can watch all of them if there's In fact, I'm satting to Colin Layne recently backstage at the Starcatcher and he had just we both actually tuned in for like flicking three channels in Besting Show, we're on at the same time without knowing it and end up watching like half a best in show because it's if it's on, it's hard, it's hard.
To turn away. So good and you notice new things all the time, Yes, because all the actors are so good and they're all doing something, so you can watch every scene like seven times.
Yeah, yeah, so you have it, you have a favorite like if you like do you have it like a favorite actor in that In the Christopher guest World.
It's really hard. I love Parker Posey, she is great, but I think my Catherine, her heart is very hard to beat, very very hard to be so.
Boy, that combination. Yeah, in show whenever, whenever she plays cookie, I think it's cookie and and they she keeps on bumping into exploit boyfriends, partners, and it's she plays it so well, Like the idea is funny, Yeah, but it's not. What's funnier is the perform.
And it's just the sandbox for her. With same with Jennifer Coolidge. It's like, hey, we built you this Coolidge playground. Now you go. And if anyone else did it, it would be like okay, but she does it. It's like brilliant. Yeah, just a different world.
It's so good. One that was I expecting Fast and Furious what I saw. I saw a clip of you that you posted on Instagram where you had a bit of tech issues and tech issues in the show in London. Yeah, I believe, and you.
Five hundred seats. My agent was there, my mum had flown to London. My biggest show ever in London, and uh yeah, the tech the tech went to share so you.
You filled the timing as a text, you know, did what text doing and we went to work by this running through the Fast.
And Furious, I was like, I'm going to show you the plot of the Fast and the Furious until the tech comes back on. It's a long plot.
I imagine it would have been one of those things that you were so enjoyable to watch, you counting Fast and Furious. There might have been one or two people slightly going how do you transition? You know, you know, when you go into a bit of improv or crowd work, sometimes it can be hard transition back into the material.
Yeah, I mean it was kind of hard, and I wanted to keep gold. I think it was, like, it's a shame because it's one of the funniest I've ever been on stage. When I watched something, there's footage of it, so many people filmed it, and when I look at it, I'm like, this was the best I've ever been And I can never use this again. But this is not helpful to me unless I make one year My comedy show is just Michelle Brazier tells you the entire plot
of The Fast and Furious franchise. You will sell tickets cell tickets. But yeah, I love I love The Fast and the Furious franchise so much. I love cars, broom, broom, I love family.
It's all about family.
I love it. It's so I started watching it, ironically the whole series, and then by the time I got to seven, I was like, sorry, there's something in my eye feel kind of crazy. So Furious seven is, like, I think, the best one because it's very moving and it's like and it's it's a real joy. It's kind of like the height of the new school of Fast and Furious before it gets too silly and you you know, Paul Walker and everything. You know, it's very sad. But I also, I can't tell you how much I adored
ten Fast, ten Your seat Belts. And I thought that one, not that it was good, but I thought it was really brilliant. Like I thought it was like, this movie is not a good film, but this movie is a great movie.
Do you know what I mean?
Like how two thousand and one is not a good movie but it's a great film. Does that make sense? Absolutely, it's the opposite.
The movies have popcorn two and there's movies that drink wine.
Yes, yes, yes, And this is more of a vodka cruiser.
But I just I love the Fast and Furious franchise, and I think this is the balance because the first one is a good film as well, Like I think you make an argument that it's a good film, and then it kind of goes a bit, It goes in a lot of different ways, and Tokyo Drift is probably a good film too, and then five the rockawayn Johnson enters and then it becomes this absurd thing where they just have this pattern of folding the villain into the family the next time, and the lines are so iconic,
and then we get to seven and we're like yes, and then the balance went off, So I say seven, but in my heart, I really mean ten. I really mean the silliest ones, the silliest bits. I mean like Jason Momoa playing a Disney high camp villain, Like that's what I love about the franchise.
What are they up to now? Because I think up to ten? So yeah, I saw that. I saw that with part one. I saw that if Ross Noble actually did you yes, yes, yes, And I hadn't seen one for years.
Oh that would have been so confusing.
But it was like it was, it was park your brain and just enjoy exactly what you're saying. We are watching a movie and I'm gonna eat and like we actually spoke about it. I said, there's so much craft on screen that you don't sometimes, you know, give credit to because we used all the shiny stuff. But between the stunt driving and the.
Physical effects and the stunt driving is crazy and people don't like In is it seven or six? I can't remember which one it is, but in one of them, they literally they parachute high performance vehicles out of a plane and they did that, and they had Camerman who was skydiving in green screen suits. Like filming these cars with parachutes, that's crazy. You didn't need to do that. No, No, I have a lot of.
Love for those films and I feel it and I feel it and I appreciate it, and you know, I'll continue watching Fast and Furious now, please do. I will think of you every single time. But let's talk about the film. We are here to discuss.
Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich, Much of It Malkovich.
Nineteen ninety nine, from the brain of Charlie Kaufman, who also would write adaptation You Turn on Sunshine on the Spotless mind, Spike Jones, who would also make adaptation and her starring John Cusack, John Malkovich, of course, Catherine Keener, Kareron Diaz sel Bras. Did you enjoy being John Malkovich?
I loved this film.
I am so glad. I mean I was confident, but you never know, you never know.
Yeah, No, I adored this film. I thought it was incredible. I couldn't believe I hadn't seen it. The first ten minutes, I was like, I hate this guy. I hope we're supposed to hate this guy. And then I was like, oh, okay, we're allowed. We're meant to hate the guy. That's great that he's the villain. But it was such a joy. It was and I love the idea of Cameron Diaz being like, oh, how do we make her yack? Or what if we give her frizzy hair? She's still so.
Beautiful, absolutely beautiful that the first ten or so minutes, they the way they like her is really like they almost you couldn't tell it was. Yeah, they deliberately letting you adjust. They wanted a moment where you might go, oh, that's actually Cameron Das. They hold off on it, yeho. They they kind of their faces lit particularly well in the first or ten minutes or so. But yeah, everyone is so good in this movie, so good.
And the character Maxine, she was amazing, what an incredible character.
Well, Katherine Keener apparently did not like the character, like like she found it difficult to play. But I agree. And I'm surprised when I read that because I think it's such a ballsy kind of She's so funny, so funny, she just like doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, you know, sexy, she's just like funny, like all of it, all of it. So I was surprised that she maybe struggled, maybe because she's maybe nothing like that in person. I don't know, but I thought, you know, I remember seeing this film
going my first Catherine Keener experience. I think when I saw this film, I was like, who's that? And she's amazing? And then you know, there are so many things. I'm sure where we want to you know, kind of start, but.
How do you even dive in the surrealist lesbian rom com set inside of John Malcovic.
Metaphysical jaunt of a movie like the idea? I think one of the reasons it works is because it's a weird idea, yes, and everyone wants, you know, love to talk about how weird the idea is, but it feels they find a way to make it feel you're not questioning it.
They don't try to explain it. And I think that's the thing with sci fi. You just don't. You don't say this is how, You just say, yeah, this is what.
It's. And it's such a It takes a lot of craft. It takes a lot of balls as well, because you are when you're making easy you know, when you're making something you don't know, you know you can, You're asking people and you're getting feedback from people around you, and maybe you do test screenings, but you don't know. Is it's that when you do a twist sometimes you know, I've done a few things like episodes of TV where is a twist and you kind to go people spotting
the twist. I don't know, I'm too close to it. You'll be asking yourself the question. It's a pissing people laugh that they we haven't explained what this is. Those questions would have been discussed by Spike Jones and Charlie Kaufman.
Yeah, I want to learn so much about the making of this film. Yeah, and the different versions. I'd love to read the first draft of this.
Oh well, apparently like the first it was much longer. The people who were trying to get in on and getting to the vessel, that is John Malkovich I, the elder elderly people were trying to take over the world, and there was like Satan was kind of a part of it. From what I've read, it sounds like we got to the right movie of the version, the right
version of the movie. Yeah. But also I think like it starts off, there's so many like weird things going on with Lottie has every animal under the sun in a.
Chimpanzee, and that has hard to watch now in through our current lens, like to be like, oh, what happened to that chimpanzee? And why is it so close to that dog?
Yeah, and you kind of also, I mean credit, I'm not sure if I'll be jumping in the cage with the chimpanzee on a film set crazy.
Have you seen chimp crazy?
Oh?
Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah. First starters, don't put the chimp through that. Secondly, that's Cameron Dias. Be careful with it. It's really important.
Came these these precious yeah. Yeah, and then you've got the seven and a half floor, and you've got this.
Speech in love that was so funny.
It was so funny.
And and the woman in the fucking Lift.
School Winner, Octavia Spencer.
The cameos in this film were in incredible. Yes, Isaac Hanson is in the audience at one point watching John Malkovich puppeteer. It was so good.
The Sean penn One was a particular favorite of mine. Jennifer Anderson is just visible off screen. Yeah, she's got almost a head turn, so it's only you wouldn't know, but it is. Jennifer Anderson was during Jenfees. David Fincher is Christopher Bing but he's like talking about you know,
the effect that John Horatio Malcovich. My favorite fact in this movie is that John Horatio Malcovich his middle name is not Horatio even that, and I love that giving him that because it sounds like it might be John's middle name, but his middle name and I love this is Gavin Gavin, John, John Gavin. You could give me a thousand guesses as to what John Malkovich's middle name was, and Gavin.
Would not have come at once, No, neither.
That is amazing. And you've got You've got lester, who's got this not speech impediment which is gone?
That was so funny.
Play Secretary, play there by Mary kay Placer we know from the Big Chill and then she's amazing and you can watch it and you can kind of go, oh, these are just jokes. And you got the video as the why as the why the Let's have a listen to the history of the seven and a half floor.
Captain Merton, once you got a child, I'm not a child, but rather than an ould lady, a miniature proportions.
See, well there was charity after become.
Follow I'm not asking for all, Captain, but rather the year of a kind man. What's a normal heart?
Well, speak to Captain Merton.
I'm afraid that the world was not built with me and mine. Doorknobs are too high, chairs are unreally, and high ceiling rooms mock my stature. Why cannot there be a place for me to work in safe and comfort?
The story is movement like the other. Therefore I shall make you mean wife, and they should build a floor for you between the between the seventh and the eighth and the old building, so at least there'll be one place in God's Green eart good you and you're a cursed kink living piece.
I love him as the Irish like explore a or whatever. It's like, that's not Irish, really good, foul devil.
But it's so so it's easy to look at these and go, oh, they just they almost feel like a bit like their sketches on my Like, you know, this movie works with with that the seven and a half floor and the speech impediment and all these things that even the chimp, we see his memory of being you know.
Oh my god being, Yeah, taken from the jungle.
Taken from the jungle. And his name's the same name that Lordie. So it's like it's like the parents have actually given him the name and then it's been adopted by Camery has. But the reason is Charlie Coffin knows he needs to build a culture in this film, a world that so when we get to the Portal, it doesn't seem as weird as it would be in the Reese Witherspoon nineties kind of romantic comedy. Yeah, like we're
in conditioned. He's conditioning us to kind of go this world is a bit off center, yes, you know, And funnily enough, I was watching a BAFT speech that Charliekavin gave last night. Didn't give it last night. I was watching it last night and he spoke about when you write your scripts, you need to have your world needs to feel consistent, and I was going, well, that's it, that's what I've been thinking about. That's why all these
things are happening. So when we get to the portal into John mccolmich's mind, which is a fucking back crazy idea that we feel like this could happen in this.
World because everybody believes him as well. When he discovers the portal, everybody goes, oh.
Okay, yeah.
They don't challenge him, they don't worry that he's sick. They go okay, yeah, yeah, which is amazing.
Because it'll be the temptation for somebody to kind of resist it and kind of go and then use that as a way of feeding the audience and explanation as to why this could possibly Just like you said earlier, we love that they don't. They don't. And because sometimes you risk when you explain that, people going oh that doesn't hold up. Yeah, so don't explain it.
Yeah, don't explain it. I just don't just don't try. I love that. I love sci fi that just goes. It's this shut up, yeah, don't worry about it.
And what I love about sci fi as well, there's different ways you can dole. Like Christopher Nolan does movies. You know, obviously Interstellar and and Inception, which are metaphysical and but there is, it feels like there is a lot of explaining going on there is. He's trying to kind of reach a place where you can trace some thought to be possible.
But I actually don't like that.
Yeah, I like this version.
Yeah, whenever I'm watching Christopher Nolan films, I feel like I'm being left behind.
Yeah, Like I'm always like, yeah, I.
Didn't twelve maths. Can we just shut up?
Yeah? I think Tenant. I was lost twelve minutes in and I never regained my footing.
Yeah, it's too hard. Yeah, it's too much. I remember leaving like Interstellar and be like I get it, and then now I can't remember anything about the film because I spent the entire film being like, oh okay, like trying to understand rather than like feeling anything for the characters or anything. Yeah, it's like, so wait what Yeah? Yeah, Oh my god, my dog just sneezed. I forgot she's here.
I've got the beautiful retired guy dog. Eva Eva, Eva asked about to Ali, But it's Eva. Did you watch being John Makovic with Eva? I did.
Yeah, she sat on the couch and she watched it, enjoyed it, she loved it. Yeah, she only went to sleep a few times, so that's pretty good for her. That's pretty good. Yeah, dogs sleep most of the day, they do.
How good is the performance, by the way, and they're all so good. But John Malkovich, he comes onto this project, he hears about it through again, we're going to celebrate the fact this movie got made by a first time director and the first time rider. That's it's it's not like people with all these experiences behind us. So they went okay, and with names that don't traditionally sell movies. I mean, Kuzak and Malcovich were coming off conn Air together.
But I mean it's not enough to necessarily get a movie. Mate got into the hands of Francis Wold Coppola, who is who knows it's going to get passed around, And obviously his daughter is Sophia Coppler. She's married to Spike Jones. He gets a script and is like, so Francs for a couple, I think did a little bit of pushing it. You know the script. You should met the Spike Jones, but John Malcovich. They pictured this with John Malkovich and he met with Charlie Cafran and said, how about this is?
He read the first thirty pages and went, this is stunning, like this is this guy's got talent and he said, how about you? Yeah, but nobody's going to make this film. So how about we're working on some Howard Hawk's film. Do you want to come on and help us rewrite that? And he said no, I'm not interested in doing that. He said, okay, how about we try to get this film but we change the John Malkovich character and I I'll direct it. He said, no, I'm not interested in that.
He said, okay, well, no worries. They left and for some other I'm sure why, I think. Then he met Spike Jones. I think Frenchville Copler step and said you need to meet with Spike Jones. We're all gonna be working with it for him one day, and he met with him and was impressed enough and came back on board. But I think he thought that he saw the opportunity to direct, and he thought, if I'm going to direct, I think me directing me in that role is too much.
It's too much. So I think that's why. And there are other producers who recommended, like how about it's being Brad Pitt or bring being Tom Cruise.
Well, I was thinking about that. I was like, it's so shocking that it's John Malkovich. Yeah, and it's so good that it's John.
So who's John Malkovich to you? Like, like do you like how much are you aware of like who he is when you see the name being John Malkovich? What was like film references and you have a type in mind, did you? Yeah?
I mean maybe it's Connair or like character actor villain, like camp kind of silly gravitas man.
Yes, I think that's that's really good. And I think even in nineteen ninety nine he was because he's done like dangerous for the Aisons and he was like you know, Oscar based a Thespian and a serious, a serious guy. Conye kind of was you know slightly that kind of
shocked everyone. That was like and he you know that was a money job, obviously, And he tells a story of he was working with his like quite learned English playwright and somebody, an assistant came in and gave him the latest Conna Air script and he looked at it and he just threw out over his shoulder. And the playwright said, do you mind much if I've ever read a Hollywood script, do you mind if I just take
it home and have a read of it? And he goes, sure, sure, absolutely, and he took it home and the next day he came back and he said, mister Malcolm, I just only decided I read the script last night for Connair, and I'm so glad you have got your principles and that you're not doing you know, like this, and he gaes, I'm doing it. I just I just don't need to read it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm taking the six million dollars and I'm I'm definitely doing the film. But yeah, so he was like, it's really interesting when you like, would this film be as fun if it was being Tom Cruise? Like, No, I think there is something it would feel sketchy.
I think you have to be funny. It has to be a character actor. Yeah, it has to be somebody like that. It could be like being John c Riley. It could be being John Leguizamo, any of the Johns. But it can't be Brad Pitt. Yeah, it's boring. That's a different movie. And Tom Cruise, I don't know. I love Tom Cruise in Magnolia and everything else. I'm like, okay, sure, yeah.
I'm a Cruise fan, I think, but I just don't think this is as in or as funny. Even though Tom Cruise, I'm sure if he agreed to do it, would jump in with both feet and he'd have fun and have fun and be happy to take the piss and all that. But I just think this was such a surprising choice and the fact that he said yes to it, and that we hadn't really seen I don't think i'd seen Malviich do comedy up until this point.
And he was just so good. Not only was he so good when he was kind of being himself as this, like you know, up himself thespian. Yeah, but then when he when Kuzak inhabits him, it becomes like this, he's so funny.
He's so funny, just in that one scene where he goes inside himself and then in the restaurant everybody is him and just to like look around that table. God, I would have loved to have been on set to see what he did. All those little improv bits, all those little all the characters he played that were John Malkovich were amazing. That was like, this is the man.
Now we've seen We've seen you do all of these characters that you did for two seconds each in this scene, and that was really exciting to me.
Yeah, like that. Yeah, and because he also got the Kusak's character's kind of voice and these mannerisms, and when he's looking at his body, goes, why couldn't I have found a younger body? Or and he has what if I fall over and break a hip? Yeah, it's so good.
He's also like forty three, and they're talking about like how old he is. I think he was forty six when the movie came out. Yeah, they're talking about how old he is. A he does look so much older than forty three. I think a combination of I guess that it was the nineties, but maybe like just the way his hair is, with the sort of hair on the side but nothing in the middle, and he hasn't shaved it. But it is crazy the way that they're talking about age. And even the man who comes in
and is like, I'm a fat man. I was like, you're a medium sized man. Men are bigger.
Now.
Everything is way different now we're all really young and also really big. That's cultural difference. I also really loved the agent when he walks in and keeps repeating sorry about the counter at reception. Oh my god, I couldn't believe I was. I wrote it down. I was like, that's so fucking funny.
All they've done is like they've gone, mister Malcolvich is here to see you, and they've gone, what don't keep him waiting? Yeah?
Sorry about the content reception.
I do love when they go in and he just accepted, Yeah, sure, let's make a few calls.
You know, I'm not an actor anymore. I'm a puppeteer. Yeah, okay, great.
Yeah, but I also set up early that puppeteering is a bit of a thing without these the great mantein.
Yeah, and the Great Mantini's like logo with his hand is really funny. I really liked that.
So all the little details I add like the video that we listened to early about the seven and a half floor and the it's a sixty minute style story that goes ahead and that's when we see, yeah, you Brad Pitts and Sean Penn's all those little details are so well done.
Yeah, it's so it's so funny.
It's so good.
And at the end of it, where they're talking, where they're like talking about Maxine withdrawing from him, they're just saying these personal things that they would not know, and he's just watching it and he's like, Okay, it's finished, Like it's really really, really absurd and really funny.
Did you know do you ever know where it was going? Did you ever kind of have a hope that you hope this happened or that happened, or do you just no?
I mean I kind of had no idea. I wanted the girl to get together, and that was all I wanted. And I just hated that guy, the JOHNK He said, what was his name, I don't remember his name.
But I Craig Schwartz.
Craig Schwartz. Yeah, I hated him. And I was worried about the chimpanzee, and other than that, I've just along for the ride. Like I was just like, yeah, let's go, let's see what happens. I still don't really understand how so many people are inside of John Malkovitt and they lived for a long time, but like, yeah, let's let's absolutely go. And then I guess the guy is in charge because he's married his receptionist that he loves. You can't understand.
Him, can listen of the speech issues first come out?
Damn fine, woman Flores. I don't know how she puts up with a speech impediment of mind.
You don't have a speech impediment, doctor, lest.
Flattery, We'll get you everywhere, my boy, I'm afraid I have to trust Flores on that one. She's got her doctorate in speech impedimentology from Case Western. I apologize if you can't understand the word I'm saying.
No, I understand perfectly.
It's very kind of a lie, lonely and my isolated tower of indecipherable speech.
That's awesome being playing Lest. He's so.
It's so good, and it's she's so funny because that's the first time I've said I think that's the first of that joke, because you see that joke all the time. But it was the first time, and it felt so contemporary for just this woman to be like, I have no idea what you're saying. Yeah, and he's speaking so clearly, and she's like, I can't hear it's a thing you're saying, Like this could be a sketch today.
Yeah, So clearly it felt like for me because I saw this when it came out and ceter In fact, I saw a preview of it in the same week. Oh my gosh, Yes, I saw it in the same week. I saw American Beauty in both both in nineteen.
Yeah.
One of the great movie ins cling Intentions, The Matrix Magnolia. Oh my gosh, Sich sense.
Fu ninety ninety nine was so good.
Ninety nine. There's a book I've got called ninety nine nine best movie year ever. It is extraordinary, extraordinary. Yeah, I think they witch really Fantom Menace, which he has its own little place in history.
Star Wars fans, there is nothing that Star Wars fans hate more than Star Wars.
God, I love any Star Wars you can give me. If you're a Star Wars fan who gets upset about Star Wars, maybe something to move on.
Maybe you don't like Star Wars exactly.
Maybe you've grown out of it. Shut up, shut up. I agree so hard with the vessel. There was the only time where I was like, I don't quite and I got to the same points. And I've probably seen his half a dozen times. We're going to go on, I don't I don't care.
I don't care, I don't care. It's fine.
Yeah, if I'm going to go through the fact there is a portal. Yeah, I can believe that there's a group of people who are just and all of these there's a group of people who are trying to live forever. John Malgovic is Noah's ark.
Yes, and I'm happy to suspend my disbelief for that. That makes sense to.
Me, It makes absolute sense.
I loved it. I loved it, and it didn't hit us over the head. You know the way that filmmaking works now. And I just did this like screenwriting thing with Screenustralia in New York and was working with all these amazing screenwriters and you know, writing things myself and getting things, trying to get things made, and everyone just keeps saying it has to be second screenable, so you have to keep pointing to things. And I noticed this in the substance. Have you seen Substance?
No?
Yeah, Oh it's great, But there's just so many things that she reads the instructions, and then we just keep seeing flashbacks of the instructions, and I was like, if this movie was made twenty years ago, we would not need to see these But because of the second screen of everything, which literally means, can you understand this film if you have a second screen in your hand?
Right to ask, I thought you meant like to watch it the second time.
No, it means your audience will be on their phone, so you have to tell them everything way more. You have to be so clear. It has to be so clear, and I hate it. It's I think it's going to ruin filmmaking, like it really and TV for a while, and then we'll go back, you know. I think it's a it'll be a misstep that we we take and then we'll move away from it. And there will always
be people who don't bend to that. But for people like us, it's like, Okay, sure, I'll put in a little scene where she remembers the thing again, even though we've seen that scene and it feels so naff and so cliche. But like they need it.
That is so awful, because who are we making films for?
On?
Now?
Are we making films for the distracted? And what? Yeah? Where do people go who want to watch an invest in the film? Now, I admit sometimes, oh, you know, I've gone to the habit. Sometimes I've had my phone on me when I'm watching films at home. But I still I get to the cinema enough.
I would never have my phone on in the cinema, no, exactly, So I don't really do it at home either. I try to just put it, put it in the kitchen and just sit down. Yeah, no one needs me now, It's going to be fine.
It's something I'm trying to work on of having my phone just away from me. And when I'm doing this podcast, usually I watched the film as a without the phone just wash over me, and I'll watch it again with the phone and I might be writing notes and I might be writing observations and all of that. So, yes, that is horrifying encouraged. Yeah, I mean being John Macavich is such a funnies because after this came out, everyone was trying to go become Charlie Kauffman. Everyone like you
imagine everyone going, well, let's let's not follow the rules. Yeah, And I remember I went to a McGee McGee McKee conference and he was saying, you're saying this. He goes, you need to know the rules before you can break the rules.
This is after or before adaptation.
This is around the time. Weird because Brian Cox flays in adaptation, and he goes, Charlie Coffin, do not have a shred of doubt. He knows the rules inside out for him to break the rules.
I think that's true, and I think that that's something that's really interesting. Sorry to interrupt you there, but I think I find a lot of like young comedians will say to me like, can you help me with my show? I'm trying to do that. I'm like, yeah, I'd love to help you. My first note is always go and see as much as you can, not just comedy theater, art, Go see films, Go see all of these things you're writing about this issue, Go read these books like this
is what you want to be looking at. And they'll go, oh, I don't really want to like do the stuff that's been done before. And I'll go that's great. I can't actually help you if you're not interested in this, I actually can't help you because you can't just enter in and think that you're going to be able to do this and be really clever. The reason this is really clever is because it's come from a place of going, Okay, well, this is how we normally do it. What if we xyz?
It's like you you don't get into a car and not know what the steering wheel is. Like you might want to design a new car, but you probably need to know about an engine. Yes, you just need to know about storytelling, and people just kind of don't.
And it's so important. I think to be a consumer and be an audience member, and you know, I love going to see other shows and whether it be comedy or you know. And this reminds myself the feeling of walking in to the you know, and I consider my music my house music that I'm playing before the show, like.
Oh my god. Yeah, when people when people just so clearly have not considered it, I'm just like, you didn't give a fuck about how I feel at all. Five I paid thirty bucks.
My favorite story goes back many many years. I'm sure he's changed now. But my good friend Dave Hughes. It's before I started doing comedy and I was doing community radio and I interviewed him on community radio and he gave his mate, He's went the backstage room, which is a sixty seat room at the town Hall in Melbourne, and he said, may, if you want to bring some friends in line, may I've got plenty of seats, bring
some giveaway tickets. So I did a bit of that and I saw him at in the Peter Cook Bar afterwards and I said, Ah, the house music or the music he's walk on music was don't Dream It's over by crowded house. I said, it was an interesting, you know, song selection to walk onto like it was. I thought there might have been like a theme for the show or somebody gets nah. It was the only tape I had in the car.
The only tape I had in the car. Wow, that's really really sure.
I know, I'm sure he's changed his attitude, was it?
But I think he has now. I mean, I think he's somebody who really does the work.
Which is no doubt about that. But I now I I will consider the volume that I want the music, playing the songs thematically how and it might not be you know, obvious to anyone, anyone in the audience, but it's like, I know the reasons I'm playing these songs. Yeah, and just also it reminds you that when you're sitting in a room about to watch a comedy show that
you want to like it. You know, sometimes you are backstage, you're gonna go this this credit they don't they're not here for me, or they don't they're not you know, they've been dragged along or something. Yeah, your brain plays this will trick on you that nobody who's there, who's paid money that comes see actually wants to enjoy it.
Yeah.
No, you you sit in an audience and there might be you know, a very small percentage of people in that audience who might have been you might not have been their first choice, you know, like you know, their girlfriend won and they now they're there. But people are there to enjoy the show. So there's even those things to remind yourself what it's like to be an audience member. I think is really important.
Yeah, it's really important. I don't know, I don't. Yeah, I get really up in arms about that stuff. Go see things, Go.
See things out there. One of the other things that I think makes this film win as well. Is the idea. Obviously it's quite subversive and all that, but it's a very simple like we all have a fascination I guess with celebrity, but also there's other people you know, and maybe now more than ever with with you know, social media, and it's it's not just celebrities, it's you know, there's a new brand of celebrities with influences and Instagram and it's like the idea that their life is better of
mine and if if only I could have that. Yeah, And it's no, yaf they're in Machovich's brain for fifteen minutes. That's not that's not a coincidence. If Andy Warhol spoke about the fifte minutes. Yeah, I think you can have a subversive in Vernakoma's weird idea, but I still think it needs to have a thread of logic, yeah, behind it.
And I think and it's about something, it's.
About something exactly, And I think I think this is about something. I think it's about you know, people's that they're not enough and they want to be something more.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's just yeah, and the only people who end up happy really in the end of the the people who just go, Okay, well this is who we are, and then they have this daughter together and they're like this nice couple and it's so lovely. Yeah, it's like, yeah, just be yourself.
Yeah, so lovely and kind of like you know when Cameron Diaz Lottie first goes in and she you know, she talks about maybe being or she.
Got the language even is like, oh, this is fine, Like this is somehow fine.
I was watching going, oh, is this a bit that I forgot? That's going to be a bit like oh twenty five years later, but it's like respects Chelia Kaufman like, ye, there's nothing to my years at least, and.
You know, to mine, and you know, as a youth, I my years prick up. Yeah yeah, yeh, you know you do you go, oh it's the nineties. But I didn't find you know, I think instead of saying I think I'm transsexual, she said I'm a transsexual. But that was it, and she's just like I'm going to go talk to the doctor about it. And then the other girl was like, don't leave, you know, let let her
do it. Sorry him, Like it's so nice. It's really lovely the way they approach it and then she's like, oh, it's not that I'm just gay, but like, yeah, I was.
Lovely but yeah, because even then it's like, yeah, she's just figuring, she's she's been, you know, she's had this new experience and she's now questioning things and yeah, yeah, curious and experimenting, and that's that's part of the jour you.
Know, exactly, lovely, so good.
Let's let's been a little bit of Maxine. I do like Maxine. And one of the things again, John cuzx Haarator Craig is so unlikable. It's weird when he's married and all of a sudden he's asking this woman on the date on basically his first day in the which is kind of creepy and weird. She goes along, Yeah, she goes along with it, which is you do kind of go not exactly sure why you would go along.
With it, But at the same time she's morally so dubious, but she behaves like a man.
Yes, exactly. Let's have listened to the asking of the date.
Hi, do you know that I don't even know your name or where you work?
Yeah, okay, how about this if I can guess your name at three tries.
You have to come have a drink with me tonight?
Why not?
Okay if you look like a.
Bad call the shell? Who mar seen Macine?
Yeah? Who told you?
Nobody told me? Came out? Don't you think that? Isn't that odd?
I love I love it something because you know he's just playing all those tricks are going. Can you believe that we don't I don't know your names?
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we've known for one day. I also love I noticed it in this scene how the space is not like as encroaching on her as it is on him. Obviously he's taller than her, and she's just kind of fine in the space, Like she's always sort of sitting, she's always holding herself in a good way. She's like perched on something, and she doesn't look crouched. He's always hunched over. And I think she's the only person who can exist in that space and not look crazy.
That's a really good point because the same way that he comes in and she's sitting on the floor, I think there's having a smoke on the floor and yeah, absolutely right, she never looks cramped. That's really Oh my god.
The scene where she comes over to their house for dinner, to Cameron Dias his house for dinner with him.
Ash the ash.
The cigarette is like just like four inches of ash.
It's incredible. It's like you do take out the takeout, like was it just one take that they just that was when they used.
It's so funny. Is it deliberate? What is it? I want to talk about it. I'm like, how did you do that? How is it structurally? Staying up? I loved it so much, but I sort.
To think the same thing. Is it deliberate? And then what does it mean? I we gotta talk about Charlie Sheen. Oh yeah, John Melgovich, it was written as Kevin Bacon and I'm not sure I couldn't do it or yeah, but John Malkovich suggested didn't know particularly well Charlie Sheen, but suggested Charlie Sheen, which is a great fucking suggestion, because again, the idea of making this about being John Malkovich is brilliant. And what's even more brilliant that his best friend is Charlie Sheen.
Yeah, and it's like that's not his friend. That's funny that he didn't even know him that well. No, that's really funny. I wonder what period of Charlie Sheen this was, like what times?
This is pre Tiger Blood? Yeah right, that was such a weird. That was such a weird time Scott was like hanging out with him. Yeah, weird Tiger Blood.
And he seems so harmless now thinking about the things that we've seen, like a pre Trump presidency, Charlie Sheen feels very like he felt dangerous and now it's like, what's that you're doing?
What you say? I mean, you know, who knows what you know might be come out and down the track, but he seen true.
I actually don't know anything about this.
But a lot of his stuff seem to be self inflicted and you know, yeah, like battling with addiction and and all of that. So we don't know, we don't know, but I think we can safely, hopefully safely remove P Diddy from the Charlie she conversation. They see me very different ends of the party.
Spectrum, Yeah, yeah, different.
But I do love the line when at the end where he says about Malkovich invites him over and it's it's machine malcatraz and they talk about like getting in on this vessel. Yeah, and he says you me, Gary Sonice. Maybe yeah, And it's as you know, details are so can make something, you know, I joke work or not work, or make it funny. And the word maybe is what's
so funny about that? Maybe because your brain kind of tells this little story subconsciously that maybe Gary sneez the might invite them, maybe they won't.
Invite maybe they'll let him die, let him die.
What you know, Gary Sneeze has some work to do. Maybe I love it so much. The puppetry is so good.
The puppetry is beautiful. It's really beautiful. I'd like to know who did it?
I mean, and that yeah, that it's such a funny. You know when the early scenes is the street scene.
Oh yeah, it's just like scene and the little girls watching it. The dad punches her and then punches him, and then it's like a cut to her being like not again. Camantine has been like not again time my dad's in the street.
It's such a perfect We've seen the artists who you know, often the actors or screenwriters or comedians who be portrayed before in pop culture where it's like no, I've got my morals and I'm going to but the fact that he's doing it with puppetry, which is already yeah, basically career in it. But he still got no I want to say things with my puppetry.
Yeah, it's they won't let me tell my story.
Yeah, my own, my truth. My truth is so good. I did love the scene that Lottie and when Loddy gun Point takes Maxine through have you seen yeah? Yeah, yeah, I've had like very that felt like there's the biggest scene where they're going through the subconscious of I think Jim Carrey's character, which made me think of that. But no, it's so good, so good. Did you have any final thoughts about the whole thing?
I think so. I'm going to look at my notes, but I feel like the only thing I wrote down was sorry about the content reception. Yeah, I wrote sorry about the content reception and eyes I cancered in the audience of puppeteering.
That was I really do love that. I'm going to say to sixty minutes. Speially, I'm not sure it was sixty minutes. That whole sequence I thought was so was so good, it was awesome. Were happy with the way it ended like that, Craig is kind of like this.
Trapped, trapped inside the Little Girl. I'm worried about when she turns forty four and all those people invade her. But apart from that, there.
Is a fan theory that get Out the movie get Out is like a sequel to Being John Malkovich, Oh God, Katherin Keener Is is a connection, obviously, and Alison Williams is the grown up Emily. I think her name is of the Girl. And because it feels, obviously with people being trapped in the saken place, self conscious, so Jordan people have said he certainly he wasn't on his mind, but he's happy for people to have fun with that theory. There are a few Seinfeld characters as well in there.
Litman is one of them. But also I did kind of feel like it had a Seinfeld vibe in that Katherine Keith Maxine you could almost see us as Elaine.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Lottie could almost be Kramer.
Yeah, her animals, animals. You know, she's so absurd, she's so surprising.
And then this is a time when you know, this was a surprising turn for Cameron Diaz, like she was still making you know, there's something at Merry and like big kind of comedies and she was always beautiful to be in this weird film. Yeah, and you know, it was respect the Cameron Diaz.
She's great. I adore Cameron.
She's When we did Rove Live, one of the first really really big episodes, it was one of the biggest episode we've done. The date was when Charlie's Angels came out.
Wow, that's crazy.
And they kind of played I think we're doing like celebrity charades or we had like a regular segment that we would do and they came. They played there for an interview and they were there. They were there to have fun. You know. They drinking backstage is a bit of that if.
You wouldn't Australia. You're like doing media in Australia.
And I just remember I remember them all being really cool, but it maybe particularly Camardya has been particularly cool. And yeah, I've always just thought she seems to have a really good head on those shoulders. Yeah, business and perspective.
Yeah.
Yeah, she's just funny and she's smart. Yeah, love her.
Go on, Tor Camrady, as you came to come on this, gee, maybe you get a chance. Michelle Barrasier. It's a shame we won't be friends next year.
It is a shame.
Page I know if you didn't listen to the introduction that came out of the blue. That is your comedy festival show, which is on sale now or about to go on sale. Yeah, so is there anything you can tell us about it?
Yeah, it's actually about so in nineteen ninety nine, this little boy said to me he was my friend. His name is Ashley, and he said, it's a shame we won't be friends next year. And I said, we're going to the same high school. Actually I think we'll be friends. And he was like, I don't think people will like you at high school. And I've never forgotten it. So it's about the things that people say about us that we've never forgotten and then what we carry through our
lives with that. So I'm going to like talk to the audience about their stuff. But also I've like tracked I've tracked him down and asked him what he meant. So that's what it's about.
Oh my god, Yeah, will he comes here to show? Do you think?
No?
Because I tracked him down and he lives in Holland, moving.
Holand next year. That's that. That is, That is amazing. So you're traveling all around.
I assume, yes, traveling all around. I'm doing the malt House in Melbourne, I'm doing somewhere in Sydney. I'm doing Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Fringe, all the big ones. I think I'm coming everywhere.
Actually, this year fantastic. And so he should beg steal then steal a ticket. Actually, just pay for a ticket.
Pay for ticket, pay for a ticket, pay for a ticket, or borrow. I mean you can beg, you can borrow, you can borrow a ticket.
Actually, there's got to be a cash transaction at some point.
I'm going to need to recoup, yes, okay, because I value my work.
Yeah, yeah, okay, congratulations. Oh my brothers Ashes are in a sandwich.
Bay for everyone for Christmas.
Christmas coming up, extraordinary things you've dealt with, dealing with and you do. It's such great humor and average Bear is on Paramount plus two, isn't it.
It's just moved to ABC. I view it free.
Its even easier.
It's for free.
I said in the intro. It's one of my favorite shows I've seen ever. I think it was it Blew Me Away a few years ago and if you haven't seen Average Bear, check it out. Mate. Thank you so much for it. Finally we worked, we worked out.
Our schedules, and thank you so much for recommending the movie. I loved it.
I'm so glad I said I was confidable.
You never know, you never know.
You've seen Adaptation, haven't you.
Yes?
And by the way that I've always wondered, Yeah, there's a little scene in Adaptation where it's behind the scenes. I've been John Malkovich, ye, and you have Nick Cage kind of behind the camp And I've always thought, did they take footage of that from the actual shooting and then and repurpose it? But they re shot it. That was a whole new sequence there. So must have come on to reshoot because it's the Malcovich Malkovich Malcovich and so good on. John Malkovich are coming back.
And that's amazing doing a solid for Spike.
Jones and Charlie Kaufman. Yeah. Wow, But more films like this, please, Hollywood, More films like this. Michelle Brazier, thank you very.
Much, Thank you so much.
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