This episode of You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet has some salty language and also some sexual references, so if you have the young ones around you might want to pop on some headphones. Good day, Peter HALLI you here. Welcome to You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet? The Movie podcast, where we each had the movie lovers about classic or beloved movies they haven't quite got around to watching until now. In today's guest, comedian Carl Chandler, why.
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Carle Chandler is a Melbourne comedian, TV to co host of the hugely popular Little Dumb Dumb Club podcast with his great mate Tommy Dassilo. Carl also runs comedy rooms in Melbourne Spleen and Thursday and Saturday nights at the European Beer Cafe, which are always great rooms, always with rollicking crowds. Carl is an important presence in the Melbourne comedy scene. He's also a raconteur an entrepreneur. He's razor sharp and bloody good fun. I know him because he well,
I've known him through the comedy industry for years. But also he writes on the TV show, work on the project. He's a great mate, and didn't he take a bullet for the un see nothing yet team with this particular movie. Good luck everyone.
Hi, my name is Carl Chandler. And some of my favorite films. Oh brother, where aren't they down?
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And Groundhog Day. Well that's Groundhog d again. And up until last night, I had never seen the best PHU winner Titanic, that is fond memories of the movie I watched forty five minutes ago.
Okay, does your heart go on? Carl Chandler, First of all, thanks for joining us, And when did you regret nominating Titanic as your god?
As soon as I looked at you know what this is the it was immediate nothing but regret. So I thought, right, I'll pick something that I would never watch normally, and that is that movie. And then I looked into it and realized, A it's not on any streaming services and b it goes for three hours.
Even I regretted this whole podcast when I sat down two nights ago to watch it, and I forgot. I knew it was a long film. I didn't realize it was three hours.
It's three hours of a movie I don't want to watch, Like, I've never wanted to watch it. That's why I haven't watched it.
So I mean, I ask people who want on the podcast, and I basically say, you know, I tell you the ones that we've already covered because we don't want to cover it. And there's only a handful this day. It's a new podcast, so you had plenty of films to choose.
Right, I did think about you know, I'll just say I've never seen Billy Madison before. How about we do when you're going to class today too, I'll be going to class to teach. How about you, I'll be going to learn. Oh my god, because you know what, here's the thing. And now this sounds like a bit of
a heathen to you because you're such a cinophile. I'm not a big movie watcher in terms of I can't justify to myself the time spent sitting down and concentrating on something for two hours, let alone three hours.
Okay, So my wife sometimes spills out this argument. Even though she does she's quite a consumer of a TV series and movies, but sometimes she if she doesn't feel like watching a movie. She goes, oh, I've got too much on. I can't justify the time. But there must be things you waste time on.
Yeah, yeah, Look, I waste time on the Internet and stuff like that, and I can't justify that.
Because people so I don't play. I'm not a gamer, so I don't spend any time. And I made a choice years ago that I wouldn't be a gamer because I found it I would be. I'd go down a rabbit hole. I see going to the movies and taking in movies as to be honest, I see this part of my job. Yeah, yeah, totally, because I want to be engaged in in cinema.
I agree, and I'm not arguing against that. It's just a thing in my head. As I'm sitting there watching it, I'm going I've got other things that I could.
Well, particularly when you're watching Titanic in twenty twenty years.
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I saw all this film, I think the day it came out. Oh really, I was. You know, there's a lot of publicity about it. It was James Cameron. Obviously it wasn't Titanic yet it was just a you know, you know, became the highest grazing movie of all time until Avatar.
In fact, if you remember the articles that were coming out, I remember them talking about it before it came out and just going, this is going to be a disaster, Like James Cameron has spent so much money on the underwater stuff, and like it's like working with children or animals, working with water in the ocean. It's always going to be a disaster. And so I remember people going, this has gone one hundred milio over budget or whatever it is,
this is going to be an absolute flop. Yeah, and then turns into the biggest movie of all time.
So this film was released on December nineteen, ninety ninety seven. I got a feeling this might be an American fact because I think my impression, my memory I thought was it was released on Boxing Day, which would makes sense. But it was still in cinemas when it was released to VHS on September one, nineteen ninety eight, months later. It was still in cinemas when it was really Yes, yeah, how quickly movies come and go? Yeah, even the successful ones.
Usually we'll eventually go to streamers or you know whatever your streaming device or your foxtel. This was still in cinema, so it's that big for a reason. What were the bits that you enjoyed, if any?
Right, Well, for starters, I have to confess I only watched the first half, so no spoilers please in this. I mean, it seemed like a very nice infomercial for cruise ships. It seems very pleasant and I'd like to take a cruise off the back of it.
This is a coronavirus edition, nothing yet, you know what.
To be honest, I watched it and as soon as I started watching it, I had the clicker on the computer where you know it's always telling you how long to go. I'm like, oh God, and yeah, yeah, I saw you the other day and we both said at the same time, why did I pick this movie? And I was thinking, oh, oh God. And then I started thinking. And at that point I hadn't watched the whole thing,
and I got home. I started, oh, maybe I can, Maybe I can get away with not watching all but maybe I can, and then you and you'd said, but then you said, yeah, I've seen it a couple of times, and I thought, oh, maybe I'll get away with not saying it again. But then I went then I absolutely went and watched it again, and then I talked to Ben Lomas, who'd done an episode of this with him, and Ben Lovers is like, oh man, helly, you're so comprehensive with all these movies, and he loves and so much.
I was so scared. I watched it twice. I'm like, fuck, I have to watch this movie, this more much.
No matter what I do.
Titanic well founder with the chef caunts. She's made of irons.
I assure you she can't and she will.
Thank you for the dedication of that.
I got home because I have limited time. It was a bad timing, but I got home from a gig last night and I don't have any headphones from my laptop. So I watched it and it was constantly my baby waking up at one am in the morning, and my wife coming out going, why are you fucking watching Titanic in the middle of the night, and our one year old is screaming because you won't turn it down.
Surely some of that lovely score with the Irish half some flutes would be relaxing. Surely, Well, you know what, That's one thing.
Because I watched it, right, and then I looked up a few of the facts. I thought, you know, I want to get a little bit of the history in
there as well, a little bit of facts. But I read that James Cameron tried and failed to get Anya to do the soundtrack for it, right, which I find I love the idea that that is just such a half fast like job application, where it's like he wanted to get anur in just off the back of she's got that sail away song that sounds like she knows about ships, Let's get her in it.
It's the one thing Titanic didn't do though, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
As anyone, Yeah, who's got who's got a song with the word crashing it?
It's maybe ice ice baby would have been yeah, yes, exactly, a recap version.
Yeah yeah, well yeah, and again I'm giving more nerd trivia out. But the working title of that movie, do you know what it was?
It was?
I did read that. Remind us it was ice planet, ice planey.
Yes, ice planet. Yes, what a bizarre name for any movie, let alone Titanic.
I imagine that was a red herring, Oh was it? I would imagine?
So.
I think it would have been a working title, and probably something that keep the center off the fact that you know, sometimes they want to, you know, keep things under wraps.
As they've got a fifty miles ship in the middle of the ocean. It's like, what do you do in this movie about an ice planet? Why is it say Titanic on the side of that ship?
So yeah, this obviously is a massive film. Another some of the some nerd trivia is there's a few people that were looking at to play these roles before it was given to Leonardo DiCaprio and Kate Winsley, who become like iconic in these in these roles. But Gwene Pultrow and Matthew McConaughey, Yes, where I think auditioned or the favorites to to take the rolls.
The ship's going down, right, it's nice whiskey, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kate Winsley, it was Look, I'll be honest, it was a little bit triggering because she she looks just like an ex girlfriend of mine. I was watching her the whole time, late at night last night as a baby, screaming going what what might have been? It's a simple question.
You love the game, This is not a suitable conversation. Why can't you just answer the question, this is absurd.
You don't know me and I don't know you, and we are not having this conversation at all, honestly looking at her and thinking about like an ex girlfriend and looking at how beautiful she was, and then and then I was like, well, to be fair, actually Leo is more beautiful.
I think, do you get the thing with Leo, like that age Leo that he even at times I thought he's too young for her?
Yes, yes, And I also kind of think he could do better, like because that whole relationship is like you know, it's not built on very much.
No, not at all.
Yeah, I mean and again this this I've I've never seen this movie, so I've never really read about her anything. So I don't know what people's criticism of this movie is. All I know is that people go, they could have both fit on that door at the end, is what people generally say. But I think it's there's a relationship
where you know, he's given it up for her. He's known her for about two seconds, Like basically she got on the ship, she's engaged to a bloke, and then she's met some bloke within two seconds and then devoted it like it's a it's a what do you call it, Like it's a cruise ship romance. Yes, like it's a it's a Kentucky to it, but someone's going to to it and gotten a roote off a backpacker and then it's like some dramatic romance for the times, but it's not really, so.
I guess the thinking must have been, well, I mean, there's a few devices I've used. One is the idea that she was about to jump off the ship and he was there to say, yes, you.
Let go, and I'm gonna have to jump in there after you, Billie absurd, You'll be killed because I'm kind of hoping you'll come back over the rail and give me off the hook. Here, you're crazy.
With all due respect, miss, I'm not the one hanging off the back of the ship.
Which would warm yourself to somebody, yourself something.
I have massive umbrage with that because the setup is like, Okay, they need to put her in a point where she wants to jump off a ship and kill herself. And that setup is she's had a boring dinner party and that's it. That's the whole thing. She's engaged this bloke and she's sitting at the dinner party and people are like talking boring stuff and it's like and she's like, oh boring, I'm gonna go on neck myself. That's not a good inspiration to kill yourself.
Salmon is dry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They keep talking about what boarding schools are going to Oh yuck. That that is not good motivation. I know.
I would say though, I would say that it is set up in some of the narration at the start, and they really dig into it. The idea of how unhappy she is. She's basically like a hostage. She's been dragged back to America. It is there. I'm just not sure if it kind of cuts through.
To be fair, the baby was screaming over that bit. Never behave like that again.
Do you understand I'm not a foreman in one of your males that you can command.
I'm your fiance.
You will honor me. You will honor me the way wife is required to honor a husband. The other thing they do, which is so over the top, and I think it's I think if this movie was made now, Billy Zaye's character would be probably more nuanced. It's so kind of caked on, how bad and what a villain he is. He doesn't have a little such a wanker.
He doesn't have a little mustache, but that's about it. You should have a little pencil thin mustache.
Well you kind of go, why would Kate wins be seeing him in the first place? And then you know, but then I think there are answers to all the questions. This is about how like the idea of that's how society worked, and you married rich and the pressure from the mum and so you can understand this. You know, there would be women in those times that were kind of almost a ra to be with with men like this.
But you're right, it is sign posted very heavy handedly, like and it's got one of my least favorite things of all time. As soon as you put a movie in the in the past, and then all of a sudden they start putting things like this in where they walk past up Picasso and Billy's anel Oh that guy will never make it.
It's like, ah, come on, god's that that's stood out. That's like dogs ball.
Yeah, that a that's one of those like back to the future tricks, which I love.
But you know, just he works on back in the future because it is about time travel. There's a certain irony with that. With this, it was just yeah, it was not needed.
There's always people like, you know, there'll be a movie in Egyptian times where someone walks past and goes, there'll never be a thing called Netflix, and you go, well, that's a bit over the top. I didn't need that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, that's a little bit so. But yeah, there's that. And then also that sets him up like a villain as well, like you go, you are soul. He ends up doing good. Picasso, you know, who are you?
God?
Not those finger paintings. Again, they certainly were a waste of money. The difference between Carl's tests and art and mind is that I have some they're fascinating.
What's the artist's name?
Something Picasso? Something Picasso. He wanted onto a thing. He will trust me, and he just there's no redemption for him. And I'm not saying there should be, but I said, I think if that film was made now, you would have you could do it in a way that would still be clever enough to have him being knock the cardboard cut out and a little bit more three dimensional.
Which I wouldn't look to be honest, I thought he came across okay at the start, because, like I said, she seemed to have a boring time at the dinner and he ordered her the salmon or something and then she went, I'm going to kill myself. And I'm like, if that's the worst thing he's ever done is order your girlfriend dinner, like I ordered my now wife dinner
on the first date. And now I'm now thinking, Wow, she dodged a bullet there, like she could have jumped out of the restaurant from a passing cars if that's all it takes.
But absolutely, and there is there is a moment where is nice when but I think it's just the plot device when he gives her his jacket is cold and goes cold put on this jacket, which is there because he has the diamond in his pocket and we want Kate Winslet to end up with the diamond, so he
gives it a jacket. It could still be argued that he was being nice because he was trying to have her Kate choose him over Leonardo DiCaprio, So a little bit of chivalry force chivalry maybe, But Billy, it just gets worse, like because even as the ship's going down. As the Titanic is sinking, he decides still to kind of like he's still pissed off that Leonardo has stolen Kate Winslow. Surely at that point you kind of go, Okay, I'm just going to concentrate on myself now and get off this ship.
Not only that, but the bit where it's like we already know he's the asshole. He's done. I think at that point he's already got pinched a gun shot at Leono di DiCaprio or we get it, you don't like Pablo Picasso all that stuff, and then he like pinches and then he sees that kid as well, like the little kid. It's like, just to really rub it in. It's like, we get it. He's the baddie.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and the and the eyebrows are on flick. We should point that out. He's very is very groomed and never trust Billy's an on the boat. He's got bad form with Dead Calm many years. Yes, he's the villain, much smaller boat, but the second half is infinitely better than the first half of this feat is because you've got you got, You've got the shoddy kind of romance happening, which is not great. And then and then it kind of turns into a bit of a I won't say
horror film, but it's very tense. And the fact that Billy's ay as much as we are questioning does he need to be a bigger villain? He does up the States because not only the the Kiten and Lea need to get off after Titanic. Of course you need a bill into handcuffs Leonardo to the pipes, and then too, it was not bad enough that you need to get off the Titanic, and it needs to be worse for Kate and Lea to get the Titanic than anybody else.
Needs to be harder. How can we do that? Of course, have Billy's ane running around shooting.
Books, yes, right, yeah, no, totally totally.
To get up what could possibly be funny? I put the damon in the cot and I put the cold on her. You know what.
That was a point where I was a bit more like invested. I did the first hour dragged by For me, it did drape I was, you know, in a three hour movie. I was watching it, especially watching it late at night. I became the new editor of the movie. I was like, oh, we could have done without that five you know, I could have done a better job than James Cameron at one thirty last night, believe me.
But once it got to, you know, to the action, I was like, all right, this it actually did zoom along a lot, a lot better.
Than Yeah, it's funny how you read a lot about it and James Cameron's kind of historical the details, A lot of the details are very specific, from the cutlery that was they used to I mean, having the band play that was a real thing. The band played until basically the ship went down. But then he does have
Billy's aim running through it with a gun. Yeah, right, right, he has taken this historical event and all the right details, but then this fabricated this whole like major you know, which is of course lots of fun and the movie maybe not as exciting without it, but yeah it is. He has kind of put the shining on the Titanic.
Right, what about this? This stuck out to me. I don't know whether you know of this person or not, but you know, when you get distracted by someone in the cast, like you know, I always think about this when when you're casting someone in the wrong role or someone too famous, and Tom Cruise plays someone and the whole time you're saying, that's just Tom Cruise, that's Tom Cruise running around. He in the middle of it. Not a big role, but in a role that pops up
a couple of times. They've got the bloke from Young and the Restless in there, Victor Newman.
Did you ever see the guy who is an older guy? Yes, he gets off the boat.
Yes, I think so.
He like goes early and as a boat go down looking like sheepish.
Yeah, this guy has basically got nothing to do with the story.
Really.
He pops up twice.
Maybe he got cut, he seems got cut.
Yeah, And he's like a sort of like a very charismatic goodie slash baddie in Young and the Restless, which if you were anything like that, you're roughly the same age as Mabe if you on school holidays.
Watch into Young and the Restless Kiacus on the Titanic, Jefeferranison's dad.
Yes, not John Aniston, No, but he was. That's exactly right. He was the Victor Curiacus of Young and the Restless, right, basically the same sort of character. Anyway, He pops up, and I was like, that is weird for him to pop up because I've never seen him on anything else
but Young and the Wrestler. So I did the IMD being he's done no movies, like for some reason, James Camerons just picked him out of Young and the Wrestlers, like he must have been having a sick day and he was in bed watching that and gone, I'll have him. He hadn't done a movie for like twenty years. The last movie he had done was Herbie Goes to Monte Carlo, then straight into Titanic, and.
Is he done one since? No, he actually went down on the Titanic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All the rest of it is like you know, extra scenes in Two and a half Men and stuff like that, Like all of it is like just bad sitcoms. And then he's in the most successful movie of all time. And then and then he's back again, back to waiting for the next Herbie root boot.
So the paint me like one of your French girls or draw me one of your fresh girls. What do you think of that scene? Carl chan Well triggering you mentioned earlier.
On Yeah, yes, no, totally, Well that is sort of I thought that's sort of funny in the way that Okay, look that relationship those characters don't exist in real life, right.
No, But funnily enough, there was him. Yeah, there was. And they only discovered this after they made the movie, but there was in fact that Jade Dawson, I'm the Titanic, Yes.
Right now. I just thought, I think that's a weird dynamic that that's it's a real story, apart from you know, they've made up these characters to sort of represent whatever, to make it a love story, whatever. But you know the Titanic, Well, that is a funny thing. When I left here, when I was watching the end of it today and I was complaining about bits of the movie, my wife off bar and goes, did you know that's a true story? And I'm like, yeah, I know, Titanic
is a real thing. I knew that that was a real thing.
Okay, But I wonder I wonder now if we grew up knowing about hearing about the Titanic and knowing about it. My wife has this thought that she actually died on the Titanic, and she's like in a previous life, really
is like really strong feeling about it. Really wow, And but I do wonder because this film, like I said, became it was the highest grossing film up until Avatar, James Cameron film, and Leo and Kate became icons after this, whether there'll be some people of a certain age you do to see it as a movie.
Yeah, there's one. But she so I kind of think. I think it's weird that it's based on obviously one of the great tragedies of all time, right, and so people have obviously anyone that's related to that that tragedy has seen that and gone, oh wow, they're going to make this really cool, respectful film and whatever. And then you know it's a sad story and everything. But yet in the middle there's the draw me like a French
girl thing. So for some people it's like this tragedy and for a lot of thirteen year old boys see it at the time, it's the movie they've wanked to the most of all time, Like they've got through all these sad scenes and there's you're just you're hiring it out from Blockbuster and you're watching Titanic and there's a bit in the movie that is all blurred, that's been rewound and watched like a million times, so you can't watch it. There's a lot of kids jerking off over this tragedy I'm watching.
How you'd ever gather those stats? But like, yeah, yeah, you love you to though we always hear the biggest box oppicite of all time, where things ranky, the greatest films of all time, most went to scene of all Yeah, yes, because the thing is boys get away with actually just watching it, you don't feel dirty watching Titanic.
Well, you don't have to go into like a you know, Club X and get some sort of dirty movie. You know, you'd have to risk that. You just say to your mom, I'm going to watch Titanic, and she's like, great, I'll buy you Titanic. What a great what a great love story. And then it's just some boy for like two minutes, over and over and over and over, discovering Kate winslet Jack, I.
Want you to draw me like one of your French girls, wearing this all right, wearing only this Jack Dawson.
Does they know this character doesn't have a bros before hose philosophy in this film, because he does start with somebody who we assume is a very close mate, who they win. They Vincenzo or whatever his name is. They win the tickets in a card game. Yes, there's hugs. Yeah, we're going to America. I don't think his name is Vincentza, do forget.
I think it's such a bad broad character. I think his name might be Papa Jose.
We're going to America, I think, and I think it was a Domio puppet.
The accent, I swear is worse than the Domeo ads. Honestly, the accent is so offensive. It's so bad, mother or do you bet?
I'm you're not going to see your mom again for a long time because we're going to America. Poor house boys.
I could do him mad. It's hard to do, yeah, even in ninety ninety seven, it's hard to do an offensive atteen accent. He possibly pulled it off, and then you barely see him until the end. He's just Once he's seen Kate Winslow, once he's seen Rose, he's all there.
Yeah, yeah, very clearly disappears and.
Rose clips the bird, which it made me think about the historical yes, history of the bird.
Yeah yeah, yeah, did you look that up? I meant to look that up. I don't know when the bird.
Did that there were references to the bird even like in Greek time, so I would have thought it was a more recent phenomenon.
Yeah, because that's the other thing, because I was thinking about, Okay, these two are in love in the movie. What's really drawn them together? Okay, right, she was going to kill herself, very loose reason to do that, we've established that. And then he helps her not do that, and then she slips, and then she almost so she's gone, on, I'm gonna kill myself, so I'm not going to One second later she slips, Oh my god, save me. I'm going to die.
It's like, well, you've changed your tune. But anyway, so then he saves her. But then the great moment of the movie is like five minutes later, it's like they go back to the same bit where she was going to kill herself, and it's like they're they're she like they're holding each other at the top of the ship, and it's like it's this romantic thing. It's like, no, she was going to kill herself right there, Like that's the scene of the crime. That should be a sad thing.
You shouldn't want to be up there.
And then the thing is okay, said, the choices were get limited by that story, right, But.
They're bound together by it, and I'm trying to think of why they're bound together, and it'say, Okay, she he helped her. Okay. The only other sort of really distinctive scene that they've got together is him teaching her how to spit. That's disgusting. All right, you're doing it was pitiful. Come on, you really got to hark it back.
You know, get some leverage, sho use your arms, your neck, you see the range on that thing.
Okay, that was better.
You gotta work on it.
And it's like, oh, okay, well they've got that in common as well. I guess that's why they're in love.
It's really interesting because obviously it's one of the, whether we like it or not, one of the great romance stories of our time. Those two characters. You know, people did love the chemistry between it, and I think you can kind of feel like there is chemistry between them, but it's just it's done so quickly, and I guess they had it. There was a time pressure because you know.
I mean three hours.
When the Titanic left to when it actually sunk, they only had I guess two nights to kind of get this relationship on the road. The spitting is is some fun, and then it's reprised when she spits in the space. I do like the idea they end up in the same place because you know, this is the part that brought them together, even though she was going to end her life. Now she's tied to the waist with this guy. I'm not sure if I wonder tactically though, where because
he's like Jack cents to know what he's doing. You know, you need to trust me. But I would have thought, and I thought, you know, i'd heard like, once the boat sinks, it often sinks, it brings people down with it, right like a boat goes down. If you're like in that area, it will just sink you down. So I would have thought getting off the boat, jumping in a little bit earlier and then swimming out a boat might have been a way to go about it.
Yes, I agree. I was looking at that and going, you know, it's all it's all, it's all wise for me to be making these calls one hundred years later.
But she was going to suck us out take a cheap what I said, cheep checking do not let go my hand.
We're going to make you trust me. There's two quite I think horrific scenes in it where I'll tell you I guess yes. Is it when you see the guy fall and he hits the propeller.
Oh, that's a very notable bit.
But then the other bit was when the back of the boat kind of comes down on all those people.
No, when the back of the boat comes down, I'm like, I get it by now, because I think they showed that a few times where they go they're really letting you know, okay, these people in the water, but they're not safe, and then things just keep falling on them. The bit that got me up the rest of it, the rest of the movie, like my wife's walking by going, oh he's sad about any of this stuff? You know, this is a sad movie. I'm like not really, Like
it's sort of pretty broad to me and whatever. The thing that got me is right at the end where the boat comes back and all the people are frozen in the water. Yeah, and then they go past the guy holding his dead baby and I'm like, oh fuck. And then all of a sudden I'm like, oh, the baby screamings, fine, my baby streaming is fine. It means it's alive, and means it's not blue. It means it's all good.
You are a Newish parent, how old you, Bob?
One year?
One year? Obviously a moment like that you would have had a different reaction maybe two years ago. Yes, I remember watching a TV series Greate, Australian TV series good Love My Way yep, and really well there's a lot of a child in the first series and it's devastating, and I remember watching it after I got home night We've done rog Live and I came home and I said, my while she was still up, I said, let's rot
on an episode of Love My Way. It's at Claudia CARV and that's your Eddie Brennan, Kawn down Miley, brilliant series and this episode happens where the child dies and we I reckon. We both went in checked on our we only had the one child then Liam and we went un checked on him. I reckon probably six times each over a course of that night, and I remember crying that like anything that's involving a child.
Oh, I can't watch Three Men and a Baby anymore. I'm like, you idiots, You're not treating this kid probably said Gudenberg, you fucking moron.
Be more responsible, Tom Salay, shorts are too high.
You're not free Wheel and Magnum p I anymore. All Right, You've got responsibilities.
Yeah. So it's changed the way you kind of see films.
Yeah, yeah, well that sort of thing definitely, Like you know, you can see I can definitely see now where you'd laugh at stuff like that in the past, and then you'd see parents go oh, it's all different. Now it's all different. And now I'm like I saw that kid, the Frozen Baby with a parent. I'm like, there's no need for that to be in the movie. That's ruined it for That's ruined this movie for me.
I cried in the film By the Rock and By the Rock featuring the Rock and it was before Yeah, it was only a few films in might have been The Tooth Fairy or something.
Right, a real tears, Yeah, yeah.
I think it might have been called Walking Tall and he there's a scene where he's rushing his kid who had an afflectic reaction. My kids had allergies, and it just was like, well, this is too much. I looked over my wife was seeing with all our kids and like we're both just tears streaming down. Movie featuring the rock Did you know there was a Titanic two movie?
Oh no, I mean I thought I think that was always like a joke. When they came out, people would like, go, oh, Titanic two's coming out.
Yeah, they actually made it in two thousand and ten.
I thought you were going to ask about the theater restaurant in Williamstown or.
The Clive Park because Clive Palmer was going to launch the Titanic two. Yeah, recreation of the Titanic. There was also a nine to fifty three movie called Titanic, but Titanic two surprisingly featured none of the original cast.
Not even Paper, not even.
All the bloke from the Young and the rest of.
That's devastating.
It did, however, star Shane Van Dyke, who actually wrote and directed it, Marie Westbrook, Bruce, Davidson, Brook Burns, Burns, Burns.
She's a what's she from EE or something? Yeah, I've heard entertainment tonight.
Dylan Vox, d C. Douglas, Kerry, Van Dyke family.
Whatever the opposite of name dropping is, you're doing it right now.
A century This is the premise on IMBD. A century after the faithful voyage of the original modern luxury line of Titanic two set sail. Will the ship suffer the same fate asake it's movie? Yeah, and then a little bit more. But when a tsunami hurls an iceberg into the new ship's path, the passengers and crew must fight to avoid a similar faith So basically just made the same movie.
That's that's insane, Like, that's an insane premise that either anyone would tempt fate by calling it Titanic too, because you know what everyone's waiting for, and even so much so that if that Titanic two doesn't hit an iceberg, there would be people disappointed. If it just made its progress safely, people go, well that was a bit of a waste.
Yeah, it should have been. It should have been something else though. It should have been like an oil rig.
Right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Modern it up for the kids, for the millennials. Yeah, let them hear. Yeah, what's something new? What's something modern? I mean it should be it should be.
Occasionally they have those like flotation devices where people like run like games. Yeah, yeah, you're like a game, like a games course.
Well, those game shows called what's that one? Yeah, yeah, not that one. That's a bit old school. But whatever they call these days, they should run into like a filming of uh Ninja Aria you are, yeah, yes, yes exactly, because then you got Ninja's on the on the ship as well, attacking.
Yeah, what about what about this?
Then?
What about the narrator of the whole movie? Right?
Yeah?
Because I figure, you know, it starts at the start obviously that you've got the lady, the old lady that is Kate Winslet, all grown up, one hundred and one years old, one hundred and two years old or something like that, which I think is almost a little bit insulting because it's played like Glorius Stewart, who won the Best Supporting Actress.
Did she win? I think she won. I think she was nominated nominated her and Kate wins That were both nominated for their roles, which I think the first time anyone any to be able be nominated for the same playing the same person.
Oh right, okay, great fact, great fact. So she plays the one hundred and one hundred and two year old Glora Stewart, the actress is eighty seven. That's a bit of an insult to get cast is that.
When you'll be of a kicking the guts on the way out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally, I think. But she so she's the narrator of the whole thing from the start she's telling, which I forget about. So at the start of the movie she starts telling the story, and.
Then Bill Paxton.
Yeah. Then then at the end then it gets rounded up in her going and that's when the iceberg hit or what you know, she ends up the story and then you realize that in that world she has just told a three hour story to these people. And all these people are just sitting there listening to an old woman tell a story for three hours, and you go, fuck, well that's a more entertaining one than usually people of that age tell. It's the same length.
But we had all the pictures of James Cameron and its supplied for us. Yeah yeah, yeah, how hot Jack Dawson was. Yeah.
Yeah, they didn't get to see Kate Wins.
You know, they weren't waking during it.
Actually maybe at that point the old lady actually posed for it until her gear off for that bit. And then I did this. It looked a bit different. It looked a bit different.
There was more Grayla used, yeah.
But she tells that story and then gets to the end, and then the big reveal is and again spoiler alert if you haven't seen it, she's still got the jewel.
Yes, because she got the jacket put on her by Billy saying yeah.
But now am I missing something? Did I watch this too late at night? So the revealer she's got still got the jewel. All the people that had gone down to search the Titanic were looking for that jewel. She reveals she still got it, doesn't tell anyone, doesn't tell anyone in one hundred eighty years after that, and then goes, oh, well, I might pop it in the water.
Now, and then smiles yeah, and then like, yeah, her granddaughter's there. Yeah, I mean we don't like housing affordability these days, even ninety seven. I mean help your family out.
Yeah, Like but even symbolically, what does that mean? Well, I guess I'll chuck this in the water, just like my boyfriend died. What does that mean? And ever like that promised, I promise.
I'll never let go. Maybe they shot a scene where the necklace floated down and actually land on the scalloton of lean.
Oh yeah, the classic scene of a man wearing bigjewelry, Like that's going to make anything better. That's insane because for eighty years she could have cashed it in. She could have led a nice, nicer life, and like you said, she's got a grandchildren. Then give it away. Look above all, it's just a beautiful looking jewel Let someone else see it.
Don't just a museum. Do it to a museum.
Just chuck it over the overboard like a coke can or something like it makes no sense? Does it make sense? Like it doesn't, like there's it's presented like it's supposed to make sense.
Well, I guess you could see it as a nice because people were looking for it to make money out of it, and you can kind of go, you know, like it's the heart of the ocean and all of that.
But I how dare you make money out of it? How dare you try and get a positive out of something where six thousand people died.
What I would have liked, something would have felt nice, was if she actually gave it to a grand door, like you know, just just told the people who are looking for it, you know, we will never know where it is. And you see another scene where it's like just so you know, or she passes and then you have a scene at the the few or where the granddaughter comes back to our house and there's a.
Little gifts right yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's the heart of the yeah yeah, yeah, okay that James came listening to this a lot of film. There's a boat jack, there's a before we Go.
What was the first film I ever saw? Do you remember?
Good question? I reckon, I reckon. It was the Muppet movie. Oh nice at the Driving at the mirror bow driving? Yea nice vail or varlet or how have you pronounced that word? But the Mirror Driving was where we saw all of our movies. I think the first couple of movies were It was either the Mupet movie or Herbie
Goes Bananas. Herbie Goes Bananas, Yeah, either one of them, and then e T was third I remember that that order, and then Return of the Jedi but going yeah, yeah, you're a real channel of complete it don't know, but yeah, the Driving is no longer with us because it was a indy day one day and it blew over and it was right next door to a nursery and it completely flattened the nursery. Oh and the owner of it. And this happened in about like the mid nineties or
something like that. It would be okay, yeah, remember a few futures were fucked, but yeah, but it flattened the nursery. And I remember it was like the late nineties and the owner of the drive in was like, we will rebuild, we will get it back, and like, mate, I don't think you will. It's ninety ninety eight. No one wants to drive in the mirror. You're not going to rebuild. And they never did.
Never did varlet the mirror drive through drive in, drive in drive through. That didn't work for movies. Yeah, you see one scene of the movie. Yeah, but thank you so much watching Titanic. I know it was probably a bit of a slog. Yeah, but you've seen it. Now you can go forth and talk about it. Yeah, well as many people as you want. It all like, more power to the Little Dumb Dumb Club. It's a fantastic podcast. Get onto it if you haven't already. And mate, we'll see soon.
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Thanks once again the Carl Chandler for taking the bullet. He watched Titanic three and a half hours of it, complete with Billy Zane madness and yes, thank you Car for watching that. I'll watch it as well. So I was in the same boat literally, So thanks everyone else who watched the show in anticipation for this episode. I'm loving the feedback we are getting for this podcast. Keep your emails coming to Yasney podcast at gmail dot com. It is much appreciated and I am reading them all.
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