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The players era festival, JJ Watt said he would make a comeback and who was the best high school player you saw, and players that could have played other professional sportsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm back with you here on Exus and Bros. Monday through Friday, six till nine. Thanks for joining us. I always appreciate it. The Meyer Hotline is open for you eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. You could text the program Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. Wherever it is you may be. We welcome your thoughts whatever it is that might be

on your minding in the world of sports. JJ Watt recently made headlines in sports because he said he was willing to come back if Demko Ryan's the head coach with the Houston Texans ever really needs him. Now, what is thirty five? He was named Rookie of the Year his rookie campaign, in which, by the way, he played with Damiko Ryans. He was named the Defensive Player of the Year three times. His one hundred and fourteen and a half career sacks rank him twenty fourth all time. So yeah, that's good.

If he says he's willing to make a little bit of a comeback. Sure. He's also now a new analyst for CBS on their show on their NFL show, and I'm sure he'll do a really good job. Boomer's Siasin is out, Phil Simms is out. Both have had really nice runs. But I suppose the turning of the page takes place in every industry. So it's kind of unfortunate because you don't like to see people lose their jobs. And I thought those guys were I thought probably a sias In more than Phil

Simms, was really good at what he did. Personally, I think there's way too many analysts on these pregame shows and postgame shows. I mean, you're basically getting in one thought, and you're getting paid millions and millions of dollars. But if the networks are making the money on it, who cares. JJ Watt is in the news for a different reason yesterday, and that's because Austin Rivers. You know who Austin Rivers is, right, played for a period of time in the NBA, son of Doc Rivers. Okay,

he said something on Tuesday on the Pat McAfee show on ESPN. He said, because Pat McAfee, I'm sure you folks know this. He was in the NFL. He was a punter. He was a punter in the in the NFL with the Indianapolis Colts, and he he's turned a really successful talk show into TV, so good for him, and he had Austin Rivers on and Rivers said this, I can take thirty players right now in the NBA and throw them in the NFL. You cannot take thirty NFL players and put

them in the NBA. That might be I don't think you could do that, but that might be closer to NBA doing it to the NFL than the other way around, So it might be. I mean, there are guys who were really good football players in high school, mind you, who later played in the NBA. Again, high school, it's tough to project. People always said, and look, he's a freak. He's one of the greatest players of all the time. Lebron James sixty eight to fifty to sixty

could have played in the NFL. Maybe, I don't know that, nobody does now. He was recruited by Ohio State and Alabama and Miami and Notre Dame. Mark Murphy, who used to play safety in the NFL played eleven years with Green Bay Packers, was the defensive coordinator at James's high school, and he was convinced convinced that he would have been an NFL receiver because he was a two time All State selection. He had one hundred rocks in nineteen

hundred yards and twenty seven. I mean, it was unbelievable what he did. I guess I would say, if you think that could happen, why would people not believe the guy like Calvin Johnson who was sixty five two hundred and forty pounds or dk Metcalf who was sixty four to two hundred and thirty pounds physical specimens could not make it. What makes you think that? I think they could, but I don't know. James was fast. He was incredible, right, okay, fair enough. Don't know, but it sure

appears like he could have like Charlie Ward did it. Here's a quarterback in Florida State him on the Heisman Trophy and played for the New York Knicks. Pretty damn good. Allen Iverson was a hell of a player in the NBA, right, But he was a really good high school player. Jalen Suggs, who played for Villanovo, won a national championship. He's a really good high school football player. I don't know if that translates. I couldn't tell you if a guy played in high school who could play in the pros.

How many times have we been wrong about things like this? How many times we have to be proven that a lot? Who's the best high school football player you ever saw? I mean, Drew Henson was unbelievable, you guys. He was an All American punter, He's an All American quarterback. He had offers from any place in the country, went to Michigan. You all know the story, okay, and he played in the NFL. He's an unbelievable basketball player too. Averaged twenty nine points, close to nine points per

game. So he's a really good football player. He's an All American baseball player. He's all of a basketball player, made it to Triple A, made it to the majors, and made it in the NFL. Matt Barnes was a really good football player in high school. Could he have played in the NFL? I don't know. I know, guys like Tony Gonzalez he played college basketball, right, Yeah, he played college basketball and made it

in the NFL. And Tonio Gates. We could go on. There's a there's a number of guys who we've talked about in that regard who played college basketball and then went and played in the NFL. Okay, some of these other guys that I just mentioned or who Austin Rivers is thinking about, didn't. Julius Peppers, he's a dual sport athlete at North Carolinas, a walk

out on the basketball team. I don't know if people remember that. Jimmy Graham, he's part of the Hurricanes that reached the NCAA turned in two thousand and eight. Quinton Rollins for the Green Bay Packers. Here's a guard at Miami with the RedHawks. Julius Thomas at Portland State. Darren Fells another guy. He's a tight end in the NFL and played some college hoops. Don't tell me that guys in the NFL can't do it the other way around.

That's ridiculous, because you know, damn well they could. Austin Rivers should know that. JJ Watt was kind of taking offense to that and called him out. JJ Watt on X came out and said, you don't got a job in either right now, so go ahead and try it. JJ Wat's not suggestion that he could do that, no way, and he did say, for the record, I could absolutely not play in the NBA. Six hard follows is about all I could give you and call it a day.

But don't be saying I can take thirty players right now in the NBA and throw them in the NFL. That's dissing another professional league, and it ain't right, and it couldn't do it anyway. Who do you think could make that transition besides some of the players I've already mentioned Meyer Hotline eighty sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. You could text the program sports Radio to twenty one thousand. This is Xes and Bros. Across the great state

of Michigan. We'll be back huge here for the Michigan High School Athletic Association. You can stay up to date on the latest from Lansing twenty four to seven at MHSAA dot com, at MHSA on Twitter and MHSA on Facebook. The latest news, press releases and stories connected to every high school in the state of Michigan available for you twenty four to seven from the Michigan High School

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six eight three, eight forty eight forty three. You could text the program Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. Wherever it is you may be, We welcome your thoughts whatever it is that might be on your mind in the world of sports. JJ Watt recently made headlines in sports because he said he was willing to come back if Demiko Ryans the head coach with the Houston Texans. Ever really needs him now. Watt is thirty five. He was named Rookie of the Year his rookie campaign, in which, by the way, he

played with Demiko Ryans. He was named the Defensive Player of the Year three times. His one hundred and fourteen and a half career sacks rank him twenty fourth all time. So yeah, that's good. If he says he's willing to make a little bit of a comeback. Sure, he's also now a new analyst for CBS on their show, on their NFL show, and I'm sure he'll do a really good job Boomers. Siasin is out, Phil Simms is out. Both have had really nice runs. But I suppose the turning

of the page takes place in every industry. So it's kind of unfortunate because you don't like to see people lose their jobs, and I thought those guys were I thought probably a sias In more than Phil Simms was really good at what he did. Personally, I think there's there's way too many analysts on these pregame shows and postgame shows. I mean, you're basically getting in one thought and you're getting paid millions and millions of dollars. But if the networks

are making the money out of who cares. JJ Watt is in the news for a different reason yesterday, and that's because Austin Rivers, who Austin Rivers is right, played for a period of time in the NBA, son of Doc Rivers. Okay, he said something on Tuesday on the Pat McAfee show on ESPN. He said, because Pat McAfee, I'm sure you folks know this. He was in the NFL. He was a punter. He was a punter in the NFL with the Indianapolis Colts. And he he's turned a

really successful talk show into TV, so good for him. And he had Austin Rivers on and Rivers said this, I can take thirty players right now in the NBA and throw them in the NFL. You cannot take thirty NFL players and put them in the NBA. That might be I don't think you could do that, but that might be closer to NBA doing it to the NFL than the other way around, so it might be. I mean, there are guys who were really good football players in high school, mind you,

who later played in the NBA again high school. It's tough to project. People always said, and look, he's a freak. He's one of the greatest players of all the time. Lebron James sixty eight to fifty to sixty could have played in the NFL. Maybe I don't know that, nobody does now. He was recruited by Ohio State and Alabama and Miami and Notre

Dame. Mark Murphy, who used to play safety in the NFL played eleven years with Green Bay Packers, was the defensive coordinator at James's high school, and he was convinced, convinced that he would have been an NFL receiver because he was a two time All State selection. He had one hundred rocks in

nineteen hundred yards and twenty seven. It was unbelievable what he did. I guess I would say, if you think that could happen, why would people not believe the guy like Calvin Johnson who was sixty five two hundred and forty pounds, or DK Metcalf who was sixty four to two hundred and thirty pounds physical specimens could not make it. What makes you think that? I think they could, But I don't know. James was fast, He was incredible, right Okay, fair enough. Don't know, but it sure appears like

he could have like Charlie Ward did it. Here's a quarterback in Florida State him in the Heisman Trophy and played for the New York Knicks. Pretty damn good. Allen Iverson was a hell of a player in the NBA, right, But he was a really good high school player. Jalen Suggs, who played for Villanovo won a national championship. He's a really good high school football player. I don't know if that translates. I couldn't tell you if a guy played in high school who could play in the pros. How many times

have we been wrong about things like this? How many times we have to be proven that a lot who's the best high school football player you ever saw? I mean, Drew Henson was unbelievable, you guys. He was an All American punter, He's an All American quarterback. He had offers from any place in the country, went to Michigan. You all know the story, okay, and he played in the NFL. He's an unbelievable basketball player too. Averaged twenty nine points close to twenty nine points per game. So he's

a really good football player. He's an All American baseball player. He's all of a basketball player, made it to Triple A, made it to the majors, and made it in the NFL. Matt Barnes was a really good for ballplayer in high school. Could he have played in the NFL? I don't know. I know guys like Tony Gonzalez he played college basketball, right, Yeah, he played college basketball and made it in the NFL. And

Tonio Gates. We could go on. There's a number of guys who we've talked about in that regard who played college basketball and then went and played in the NFL. Okay, some of these other guys that I just mentioned, or who Austin Rivers is thinking about, didn't. Julius Peppers, he's a dual sport athlete at North Carolina, a walk out on the basketball team. I don't know if people remember that. Jimmy Graham, he's part of the

Hurricanes that reached the NCAA turned in two thousand and eight. Quinton Rollins for the Green Bay Packers. He's a guard at Miami with the RedHawks. Julius Thomas at Portland State. Darren Fells another guy. He's a tight end in the NFL and played some college hoops. Don't tell me that guys in the NFL can't do it the other way around. That's ridiculous, because you know damn well they could. Austin Rivers should know that. JJ Watt was kind

of taking offense to that and called him out. Jj Watt on X came out and said, you don't got a job in either right now, so go ahead and try it. JJ Wat's not suggestion that he could do that, no way, And he did say, for the record, I could absolutely not play in the MBA. Six hard follows is about all I could give you and call it a day. But don't be saying I can take

thirty players right now in the NBA and throw them in the NFL. That's dissing another professional league at it ain't right, and it couldn't do it anyway. Who do you think could make that transition besides some of the players I've already mentioned Meyer hotline eighty sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. You could text the program sports Radio to twenty one thousand. This is x'es and bros. Across the Great State of Michigan. We'll be back huge chair

for the Michigan High squad Letic Association. You can stay up to date on the latest from land Sing twenty four to seven at MHSAA dot com, at mhsa A on Twitter and MHSA on Facebook. The latest news, press releases, and stories connected to every high school in the state of Michigan available for you twenty four to seven from the Michigan High School Athletic Association. Log on

to MHSAA dot com, at MHSAA on Twitter and MHSAA on Facebook. And if you're looking for archive Boys and Girls High School Sports MHSAA dot tv. That's MHSAA dot tv twenty four to seven everything you need to know about high school sports in Michigan. Log on to MHSAA dot com. We're teaming off our tenth year at the Meyer LPGA Classic for simply gives. Get ready for the best who are yet to help neighbors in need while enjoying golf, food

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in Cleveland, Parker Meadows demoted to Triple A because of the struggles. Andy A. Banya is four for four yesterday on base five times, four runs scored, four runs driven in two home runs. Not a bad day, huh. Also, really good hockey games last night, both ending in overtime, one in double lot, the Rangers beating the Hurricanes for to three.

Colorado did the same, came from three goals down. Now have Home Ice beating Dallas for to three in overtime The heroes were Vincent Trochek for New York, Miles Wood for the San Jose Earns the lottery, they get the first overall pick. The three finalists for the Hart Trophy Nathan McKinnon, Connor McDavid, and Nikita Kucherov. In basketball Boston Rules Cleveland one twenty ninety five, Jalen Brown had thirty two OKC handles. Dallas won seventeen ninety five. Shay

Gilgess Alexander had twenty nine. Rudy Gobert wins Defensive Player of the Year Award to the full lines be Who's waiting for us? We have Mark and Gun League. Hi, Mark, good morning, good to talk to you. Hey, Good morning, chef. How you doing. I'm doing great? How about yourself? Good good? Hey? You were talking about the NFL players and the NBA players stuff like that. I think it was back in

seventy two. I went to see an exhibition game of the Detroit Lions playing against the Grand Rapids Area coaches at Union High School, and Charlie Sanders was school and everybody and I walked out of that gym. I was twelve years old. I walked out of that gym and I looked at my dad and said he could be in in the NBA easy, and my dad agreed with me on that. But he you should have seen this guy play. Have

you ever seen Charlie Sanders play basketball? I could only no, I did not, but I only know of what he has told me or what he told me. Oh and when he and I worked together, we worked together for years as part of the Lions broadcast, Charlie told me about his exploits as a basketball player. Yeah. Oh, he was just fantastic. But one more thing I wanted to ask you, when it comes to multi sports athletes, do you think that rick Leach made the right choice in going into

baseball, because I think he should have win in the football. And I'll listen to your comments on the air here. So Dave, thanks for taking my call, and you're doing a great job. Thanks. I appreciate it. Thanks very much. It's always good to talk to you, so we welcome at any time. That's a great question. I who am I to say about what rick Leach should have done? Keep this in mind, I mean he did have a ten year stint in Major League baseball Detroit Toronto.

What did he play for? I think he completed a year in Texas, but he spent ten years. Would he have spent ten years in football? The reason a lot of guys make the chance that the transition to baseball. You know, Kirk Gibson, Rick Leach, they were both first round picks for the Tigers. Oh, he played. He played a year in Texas in the year in San Francisco. The reason they do that, as you know, is for longevity and health reasons. And these guys like playing games.

People like playing games, and baseball you play every day. In case people are unaware. Rick Leach grew up in Flint, played at Flint Southwestern all right, and he was also a basketball player too. I mean he was an All conference player. He's one of the best athletes the States ever produced. Four year starter at quarterback at Michigan, also played baseball there. What was it, three Big Ten titles All Big Tennis quarterback three times.

He was third in the Heisman Trophy voting as a senior as an All American, but he was a Big Ten batting champ his junior year, so he was a He was an All American in baseball and football. When you're a first round pick just because you don't play for the team that drafted you in your first round pick. That's pretty damn good, right, you'd take that. I don't know how effective rick Leach would have been in the NFL with his style of play. You know what would have happened. I don't know.

I don't think he was an option quarterback. He was a running quarterback, though he's a hell of an athlete. I remember reading an article about Rick Leach and they had asked him, did you wish you'd chosen football? And he said immediately, no, absolutely not. He was pursued like I don't even know if he would have been drafted highly in the NFL. I think there was a team I think it was Montreal in the CFL who wanted him, and now you look at it, he was a fifth round pick.

He was a fifth round pick in the NFL by Denver Red Miller. Do you remember Red Miller? Remember Craig Morton and the Orange Crush when they made the Super Bowl? I think it was seventy nine. Anyway, when

the Tigers drafted him in the first round, thirteenth overall in June. He was drafted in May by Denver and then drafted in Major League Baseball in June, and he said, you know, I get a chance to stay in my home state, play in the leagues in front of friends and family for the team I loved, and I looked at the longevity factor, the injury factor and everything. So he never regretted it once. So he played, you know what, eight hundred games or whatever in Major League Baseball. That's

a really good question. He's better to answer it, but he's answered it in an article or two, I'm sure since and you could make the argument that he did make the right choice. When you have a ten year career doesn't mean he played one hundred and sixty two games every year. Kirk Gibson, who's a friend of mine, he he was an All American football player

and an All American baseball player. He'd have been a top top ten pick for sure in the National Football League, easily one of the best wide receivers in the country. And he just killed everybody. He flew by everybody. That dude was incredibly fast. He would challenge guys. People would say, you're really not that fast, he says, twenty bucks to prove it. They'd go over to the local high school or a track and he'd blow them away. He'd tell guys to their face, hey man, this is what

I'm going to do. I'm going to run a post and there's nothing you can do about it. And he would do it. Two sports stars. Some guys just have it. Bo Jackson amazing, Dion Sanders amazing, Brian Jordan amazing because they did it in football and baseball. Remember soon thereafter or soon there before that was never you really never did it. There's only one guy, I believe in reading. There's only one guy I believe who has played in the NBA and played in the NFL in this. But you gotta

go way, way, way way back for that. That's how rare it is. But that's a really good point about Charlie Sanders. Charlie Sanders was at the University of Minnesota and he was a phenomenal athlete. Remember the All Decade team in the seventies Hall of Famer. But yes, it was a hell of a basketball player. This is old news. I'm sure you already know this. One of the greatest athletes you probably would ever see is Dave

Winfield. Dave Winfield was actually at the University of Minnesota on a baseball scholarship, but they saw him in the gym one day in a pickup game, gave him a basketball scholarship. He could have been. He could have been a Major League Baseball player, which he was. He was all of He's a Hall of Famer, phenomenal player. He could have been a guy you could see play in the NBA, and he could have been in the NFL. There's no doubt about that. See guys like Kyler Murray, who was

drafted by the A's and plays quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. I don't know what he would have been in Major League Baseball. I think that's the one that's a little difficult to try and examine and figure out whether or not a guy would be effective. But Dave Winfield, who was what sixt' six, He he led Minnesota to a Big Ten basketball championship. He won the College World Series MVP as a senior. They wanted him to play football. He

was a man amongst boys. He was incredible, hit the ball a country mile, but could score. The Padres drafted in the first round, the Atlanta Hawks drafted him in the fifth round, and the Minnesota Vikings drafted him in the seventeenth round. At the time, he was one of only four players in history to be drafted in three different sports one of four. The other are Mickey McCarty played a year on the Chiefs, Noel Jenke no Idea, and Dave Logan who played for the Browns in the eighties. But he

was drafted. Actually, if you think about it, Dave Winfield was drafted in four leagues because the ABA, the Utah Stars at the time, drafted him in the fourth round. That's how good he was. Right now, Ben's going, holy crap, who the hell's Dave Winfield? Vikings thought he was going to play tight end so he could run and catch. That's an athlete. That's a guy who could do it all. So sometimes you need to put things in perspective Austin Rivers whomever, before you start saying stuff like

that, those types of athletes. But just because you played in high school, I mean, Dave Winfield did in college. Just because you played in high school doesn't really matter, because there's a lot of really good high school football players out there who can't make the jump to the next level. I'll bring I'll give you a good example. I've called the high school state championships

for about thirty years. I really enjoy it. And I enjoy it because I'd like seeing players from smaller towns, smaller schools who maybe don't always get the recognition they deserve, but the opportunity to see who they are and what they can do, and see them against talent that they may not have seen during the regular season or whatever get the chance to see unless they played in

a state title game. I love hearing stories from coaches about what kids do, not only in the community but in the classroom and what they have to sacrifice in order to get there. One of my favorite stories was I was talking with a coach one time and he said, yeah, we almost missed this kid, I forget his name, but we almost missed him in our state semi final game because it was his turn to work the farm. And

I said, what do you mean work the farm? He said, well, it's hunting season and his dad and his brother were going hunting and they said to him, sorry, state semifinal or not, it's your turn to do the chores. And he had to get up and do those roughly four o'clock in the morning before going to play in his semi final game and he had to get it all done. That's discipline, man, It's awesome. It was one of the best stories ever. I loved it, and I

told that during the broadcast. Well, one of the best players I saw in a state championship game is a kid by the name of Mark Catlan and he played it Lowell for the Red Arrows and he played in a Division I think it was Division three state championship game. He owned the field. He was a quarterback on a cornerback. He was the best player by far on the field to play. And I believe he went to Grand Valley and played cornerback. So you put his highlight reel film on and you go, oh,

good lord. But it's not like he went to a Power five school, went and played college ball. Though it's a hell of a job. Good for him, it's not easy to do. My point is, just because he was great in high school and he was, doesn't mean you're going to be an NFL player, folks, if you're not, If you can't be a great NFL player based on how great you were in college, Hi,

Brian Bosworth, Hi to Marcus Russell, Hi, Tony Mandrich. Doesn't mean just because you were a hell of a high school player, didn't pursue that sport and chose to focus on something else that you automatically get a free pass to being thought of as an NFL talent. Meyer hotline is eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. The text line is sports radio

to twenty one thousand. I think it's there's too often we kind of just we see the talent, we see the skill set, and we think it automatically translates, and athletes, by the way, lose sight of that too. Austin Rivers is a really good example. Does he know what it takes? And that's where JJ watts offence comes into play. Does he know what it takes to play in the NFL? Just because you're big, just because you're strong, doesn't mean you can do it. High brock Lesner, big,

strong wrestler and all that stuff couldn't make it in the NFL. Dwayne Johnson, guys couldn't make it in that league for various reasons, even though they're big, and even though they're strong, and even though they may have had a very good college career. There is a kid who played at Maryland and was the player of the Year in lacrosse, leading the Turps to a

national championship. He was done. He had a fifth year eligibility. He went to Farris State and forre TONI Nice played quarterback and won the Harlan Hill Trophy and a national championship for the Bulldogs, and then was an undrafted free agent and made the Atlanta Falcons. How great of an athlete is that oppressive? That's outstanding? How great was he in high school? Don't know? Didn't play? Is not playing quarterback in the NFL. He's a special teams

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