Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man, I'm forty. Go ahead, make my day every single week. I put my freaking heart and soul into this. I don't go out there and laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's funny to me. I don't wanna go out there and get embarrassed on Monday night football for everybody, I think that at the beginning of a beautiful friendship. So I ain't nothing changed from yesterday. Still the same person I was yesterday, and I got the same thing
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Yesterday we were complaining. I suppose a lot of people have been complaining about the Tigers offense, and for good reason, but they were able to jump out of it in a big way. They snapped a four game slide in a five game road losing streak with an eleven to seven win in Cleveland. The hero. Now there's that saying, right, your best players have to be their best in big games. That's not necessarily a big game. Every game is important in baseball, but I wouldn't say it's a big game.
Detroit finally got fifteen. I mean they got fifteen hits. That works. The offense found something or maybe it was Logan Allen. I don't know what it was. I don't care what it was. I just know it has to continue. But Andy Abaniez was in the middle of it all. He was at the start of it all. He hit the third pitch over the wall. He had two home runs, he went four for four, he was on base five times, he drove in four, scored four times. From the top of the order at second base. Doesn't mean that you
play him every single day. It doesn't mean that he should be your leadoff guy every single game. But he does put together some decent at bats. He had four of their fifteen hits. He had half as many as Cleveland did as a team. Detroit jumped on Cleveland in the first I mentioned ibania Is with the home run. Then Cleveland plates two right away and you're going, oh, come on, really, Detroit scores four in the second, it's five to two, and you think, okay, with the history of
their pitching. We told you the numbers yesterday, top four and four main categories. You think good, feel comfortable now to a certain extent, because Cleveland's not known as a great hitting team. And then suddenly they played five and it's seven to five. Detroit answers right back and it's a tie game. You love the resiliency. Isn't there a part of you that felt pretty damn good about that? You know, we had mentioned earlier in the week
about teams getting down, Boston Bruins beating Toronto. They're down one nothing, they tied at one, Toronto's got chance after chance, and then suddenly Boston able to come through, showing some grit, showing some moxie, little attitude,
love it right. Tigers had a little bit of that yesterday when so Perez with two more hits, Matt Veerling with a couple of hits, Jake Rogers with a couple of hits, and the guy by the name of Ryan Delayed with a couple of hits and three RBIs, including his first major league hit. Cinderella story. Who knows? Does it matter? For one game? It did. It's interesting that Justin Henry Maloy wasn't brought up or a Kiel Badeu aj Hinch saying I'm going to see a lot of lefties. The
reason I say brought up is because Parker Meadows was sent down. Big struggle for Meadows. You and I both know it. We've talked about it. It's unfortunate, but it was necessary. And as good as he is defensively, what do we always say you got You got to be able to score runs and you have to be able to hit the ball and the fastball. I think I think it was Scott yesterday who brought it up. It's a great point, missing the fastball. He was a key contributor to that needs
at bats young guys. When people wonder why aren't you just bringing up this young guy, well, because it can be a double edged sword. You want to promote a young player for a job well done in the minors. You want them. We've talked about this with hockey too. Okay, guy does a really good job down in Dahl with Grand Rapids. You'd love to see him with the Red Wings. Is he going to get the same amount of time in the same situations as he would down there? And it's the
same thing in baseball. Is he going to be in the lineup every day to get the at bats, to make himself feel comfortable like he's contributing, seeing all the pitches, so on and so forth. You want to make sure you can do that, and if you can't, all you're doing is stunting his growth. Now, what's the balance there? What is the balance between you saying okay, Parker Metals, for example, I'm going to keep
you in there. I'm going to have you bat against lefties even though you're struggling against lefties compared to I'm gonna sit you so I don't ruin your confidence. On the other hand, you want guys to be everyday players, right, I sure as hell do. Parker Metal's second round draft pick a ton of talent. I want him to be an everyday player. But when you dip below one hundred, it's got to be enough, don't you think. Anyway, good win for Detroit. They'll play the series wrap up this afternoon,
Reese Olsen against Tanner Beebie. I don't want to be negative after a win. I think too many people are. Usually you see that on Mondays after a Lions game or some type of NFL game in some market. Too many times sports radio is all about, you know what, I need to get calls. I need to get some likes, So I'm gonna throw throw out some outlandish and vervacious opinion and take it from a negative point of view. I don't want to do that. You know we did that yesterday,
ripping on the offense in a two to one loss. And when they get a win and they get the victory the way we want them to or expect them to, or have called and complained about their lack of ability. They finally show the ability. It's a small sample size, granted, but you get the point. I don't want to dwell on the negative. But you also have to be realistic. You also have to understand a problem when you see it, and Kentamieta has been a problem. It's hard to deny that
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the text line Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. We were talking about a few good Tigers went over Cleveland eleven seven to get them a couple of games over five hundred, get them even in this series and the series wrap up taking place this afternoon, weather permitting the problem yesterday, and he'd love to focus on the positive, and we mentioned andy A Banye's good feeling at the top of the ear. I suppose part of the reason it's it's it's not
as warm and fuzzy for me is because fair or unfair. I don't view andy A Banyez as an everyday player, and it's probably unfair. That's an unfair thought on on my behalf. I just don't I see him as a role player. You know, there are guys who have made livings in Major League Baseball out of being a versatile player. A guy who's not in the same position every single game for his career or for a season. Ben Zobrist is a good example. Okay, guys who aren't married to one position.
Who says you can't do that, who says Andy A. Banyez couldn't play almost every day as a second baseman, sometimes as an outfielder, sometimes it's a shortstop, sometimes it's a third baseman. The versatility he brings, I don't see that. But if you're hitting three sixty four, slugging five seventy six, you force your way into the lineup. He's not going to sustain those numbers. We're just not sustainable for him. But it's great right now.
And perhaps, and this is where as fans we have to figure out, Hey, is is he doing that well because he is a guy who plays every once in a while, or is he that good that forces us
to decide he should be playing more. That's up to the manager. That's up to aj Hanchen his staff to figure out, is this a guy we want in the lineup every day even if he doesn't have one position, because that's the way this team is made up, right Because Matt Erling, He's gonna play some third He's gonna play some right Rightley Green's gonna play the left, although they mentioned yesterday he's an option in center, and why wouldn't he
be. Torkosen's not playing any place other than first. Baiez isn't playing any place other than shortstop. Carson Kelly and Jake Rogers aren't doing anything other than catching or maybe dehing. I don't know why you dh Carson Kelly. So you get the point, right, Well, that's great. It's great to get the eleven to seven win. You don't want to be negative. It's too damn easy to go there. But there's a difference between being negative and
being concerned. There's a reason to be concerned about Kentamayata signed in the offseason to a two year deal. He makes fourteen million dollars. Not everything is associated with money, I get that, but that's a commitment. That's a hell of a commitment. And right now, in seven starts and you figure he's never made more than thirty two, and that was his rookie year with the Dodgers. Throw that aside. He's never made more than twenty six.
That's the most he's made. Twenty five, twenty twenty six, eleven COVID twenty one twenty last year made twenty. Let's say he gets to last year because he was hurt, which is more than likely now that he'll find his way on the ils at some point. But let's just say he makes twenty starts. So he's at a third of his starts right now. If that's the case, if you want to take it's not necessarily his career high. But if you want to take the twenty six he's at, you know,
twenty seven percent of his starts. When you're one in one with an ERA of six seven five and you've given up more homers than anybody else in the league nine, that's not a good sign. I'm not saying it's not a good signing. I said it's not a good sign right now. I wasn't thrilled with a signing. I want guys who post. I want guys who are reliable. He hasn't been reliable. Hurt last year, hurt the year
before. Just don't like it, don't like the way it's trending. Whatever, Nothing I can do about it. Bottom line is he is one in one in seven starts with an ERA just under seven. That's a problem. If you were a spot starter, it'd be one thing. He's a starter. Every fourth day or fifth day. At some point you're going to go see what you have to do with him on the mound. You have to
plan for a bullpen day. You have to plan in case you need him or you need your bullpen, because in all likelihood you are going to need your bullpen. Dude's only gone six innings twice, did it against Minnesota, and he did it in his lone win against Saint Louis, which wasn't bad. Forgive me if I'm not going to focus on the one win against Saint Louis, and I'm going to look at six earned runs, five earned runs,
seven earned runs, seven earned runs. Yesterday in two innings of work, walk three, struck out one concerning something to monitor for us moving forward? Right, absolutely, series wrap up again today. We'll get into some of the issues moving forward. And it's starting to be recognized by national writers too. They got to fill space, all right, they need clicks. I get it. It's websites. You and I will see some type of scintillating headline and it'll make us go, oh, I want to read that.
That's what they're supposed to do. So when you rank teams, to me, you know the power rankings. To me, it's a little ridiculous in baseball at this time, but they do it once a week all kinds of websites. Read one website yesterday and look, I'm guilty of it. I'm sitting here complaining about it, but I read it. So how hypocritical is that? But when you do a show for three hours every day, there are certain things you want to check out, and you also want to
validate your thoughts if other people are feeling the same way. And my son always tells me dead you got to figure out who's giving you the information. If you're going to read this, make sure you know who's writing it, and it's worthy of bringing up. Well, he's right, and Matt Schneider or CBS Sports is a reputable writer. His latest power rankings Tiger's at fourteen. That's not even the point. Here's the point. This is what he
writes. This is exactly what we talked about yesterday morning, as if he was listening. Tigers are twenty second in runs, twenty fifth and average twenty fifth in ops and for twenty fourth in home runs. They are also supporting a winning record. Just imagine if they could hit That's exactly what we said yesterday. Thrilling overtime hockey last night. We'll get to that plus some hoops action when we return on Exes and Bros. On a Wednesday morning. Across
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in the NHL last night, Welcome Back Exus and Bros. On a Wednesday morning that saw the Tigers win in Cleveland and then two thrilling finishes in hockey. You heard him there on ESPN. Bote calls Rangers edge of the Hurricanes four to three in DOUBLET. Vincent Trocheck with a game winner. He has a five game goal streak. The biggest issue for Carolina. And they're good. I mean they built a two to one lead, a three to two
lead before falling in DOUBLET. They're really good. But how disciplined are you? I mean they went They're in the box for seven New York power plays. Rangers went two for seven with the extra attacker. It's ridiculous. They had a power play in the third and seconds after they were awarded it spashing a cough with a tripping call. I'm watching this game and I'm not rooting for one team over the other. Don't get me wrong, but I'm thinking,
what in the world's going on here? How do you keep taking these tripping penalties? It's ridiculous. You get to this point and you're that undisciplined with your stick, especially can't happen. It was a fun game to watch. Both teams are really good, really good. Really like Sebastianaho I'm sure you do too if you've watched him play at all. But damn, I mean the lack of discipline. Jake Ginzel had a couple of had a couple
of goals for Carolina. He got an undisciplined penalty, he jabbed in the face and then took a swing, so he gets sticked to two minutes there before the grace of God, go I right, who wouldn't retaliate? But the referees, one linesman and one referee were right there with him up against I forget who who the ranger was, but how do you not call them both? They didn't. They get the retaliatory just way too many undisciplined calls
against Carolina, and it burned them. So they're down two games to none Colorado in the main time. And this was amazing if you stayed up and watched this game, because the Abs, they've got to be considered the favorite coming out of the West, just to because how good they are, how balanced they are, how dangerous their special teams are. They really are so good. And I get it. When you get to this point, you've got to be good. So I understand when you look at the NHL and
you're in the final four. You're not getting there by mistake. This is not the NCAA tournament with one upset. You've got to own it. You've got to recognize that there's really good teams. I think the Oilers are fun to watch and they're really good. Vancouver's really good obviously, Dallas and then as I just mentioned, Denver or Colorado. I should say, but Colorado
came from three goals down to beat the Stars four to three. Miles would you just heard with the game winner almost nine minutes into ot Stars have lost now six straight game once six straight, and yet they keep winning series. We mentioned earlier. Best players have to be their best right when you get to this time of year, you need those. Nathan McKinnon had the game tying goal when they were down three to nothing. He scored early into the
third to tie to three. He had two points, Sekustin a goal and an assist. Cale mccarr one of the best defensemen in the league. Even though he's not up for the Norris or no, he is up for the Norris. Excuse me, A goal in two helpers best players at the best and biggest time of the year. So Colorado's up one game tone San Jose wins the lottery. They earned the first overall pick for the first time in franchise history. That's a good thing because they had by far the worst record
in the league. Chicago's going to pick second, Anaheigh third. Red Wings, by the way, will own the fifteenth overall pick. What does that mean because there's from what I've read, and yes I watched some college hockey, but from what I've read, I can't say that there's for sure a
Connor Badard out there. But Maclin Celebrini out of Boston University, who turns eighteen just a couple of weeks before the draft in June, and with the youngest player ever to win the Hoby Baker will probably be the first overall pick. It's good looking player, big reason why bu is ranked in the top five all year long. It's a good player. How good I don't know. He's playing against other teenagers and some twenty year olds, but he's a
good looking player. He's expected to go first overall. There was three finalists for the Hart Trophy. One name we've already mentioned, Nathan McKinnon. Then there's Connor David Connor McDavid rather and Ankita kucher Off. Now I've talked about Connor McDavid because I think he's the best skater I've ever seen. I know people would say Paul Coffee back in the day, perhaps Mike Gartner, but this guy, he just glides. He's incredibly gifted. Love watching him play.
He's won it three times. He's trying to become the first back to back winner since Alexandrovchkin. He led Edmonton with one hundred assists one hundred and thirty two points one hundred and twenty two in the last sixty five games. That's when they replaced their coach. They dismissed Jay Woodcroft and got Chris notblocked in there, so that turned things around for Edmonton. Kutcherov led the league in points. He's won the Heart or the MVP of the NHL. He's
won it twice before last time he won it. He's got more points this time this year than he did when he won it then. He had a career high forty four goals and a career best one hundred siss one of two guys with one hundred a sists or more this year, him and Connor McDavid. Anyway, he also finished get this fifty four points ahead of his second closest teammate. On top of that, he led the league in scoring by scoring fifty percent of his team's goals. That's incredible. I think McKinnon's going
to win it. I think some of it has to do with the fact that he's had another great season. The problem is he's never won it before. Fifty one goals, one hundred and forty points, second most in the league. He has thirty six points in front of his closest teammate, and he had two scoring streaks that voters can fall back on. He had a scoring streak of thirty five straight at home, second most ever to Wayne Gretzky's forty when Gretzky's with the Kings, and he had another run of nineteen straight
points. So he's the first player to have two separate streaks of nineteen straight or more inna season. That's worthy enough. What's interesting is the omission the omission of who right, Austin Matthews sixty nine goals and he's not a finalist. How crazy is that? Twelve points ahead of the next highest goal scorer, Sam Reinhart, Florida. He also had one hundred and seven points. His team was really good this year. Now his points finished behind David pastronak
behind our Temmy Panerin. But sixty nine goals and you can't get to be in the finalist conversation for the Heart Trophy. It's a little surprising. I think a lot of people thought for sure he'd be a finalist. I'm not sure how many expected him to win. Who are you going to take out McDavid would be the obvious answer, But he was third in the league in scoring. He rescued his team from early struggles and early losses. Helps to
get healthy too. NBA Boston rolls Cleveland one, twenty to ninety five. Jaylen Brown had thirty two. Derek White had twenty five on seven triples. Here's a good one for you. You ready. Derek White has twenty eight triples over a six game playoff span. That is most in Boston history. It's not Paul Pierce, it's not Larry Bird, not Dennis Johnson, it's not Danny Ainge. It's Derek White. Would you have guessed? Hell no? But you see how certain guys are elevating their game a little bit like
Jason Tatum had a double double earlier this year. Jason Tatum was in the conversation for MVP they get eighteen and eleven last night just fits in. Different guy steps forward on a different night. The reason Boston is the favorite who in the NBA title and was the one seed in the East. The one seed in the West played last night. Okay see, they handled Dallas one seventeen ninety five. Tough night for Dallas sports fans. Don't cry on my
shoulder. I'd love to have my hockey team and my basketball team in the playoffs, but they're not. Neither one was good enough to make it and one set a franchise record for fewest wins ever. But it was a tough night for Dallas fans because the Stars lost in overtime and they have now lost six straight game ones. Dallas loses in regulation, they have now lost five straight game ones. Luka Dacic is supposed to be the guy who saves them
all the time. He's bothered by a bad right knee suffered in the series against the Clippers. He had nineteen That snaps a streak of twenty four straight playoff games with at least twenty points or more. And we just talked about Derek White and how good he has been from Deep. Luka Doncic has been the opposite five for thirty five from Deep over the last four games. He is a finalist for MVP and should be. He deserves to be led the
league in scoring. Terrible defensively, but the NBA's about scoring. Defense gets their own award. We'll get to that in a minute. You get your own award if you want to be the MVP, if you want to be in the conversation for MVP, you have to score the ball, as simple as that. I've always found it interesting and funny that we go defense wins championships, and then when it comes to voting for the most Valuable Player, what do we do? We immediately gravitate toward offense. Right there are three
men up for the final up for the MVP award in the NBA. Two of them are in the top three of scoring. The other one is an absolute freak of nature because of his ability to do everything. It's not necessarily defense. It's about his ability to score, rebound, and distribute. That's Nikola Jokic, who still was in the top ten in scoring second most triple doubles, second most double doubles, and his team is coming off a championship and he's won a couple of MVPs. As it is. Anyway, I
digress. The other guy in that game last night who is in the MVP conversation is Shay Gilgess Alexander. Right, it's Doncic, Shake Gilgess, Alexander and Nikola Jokic. The finalist for the MVP. How good was Alexander Twenty nine points, nine boards, nine er sis, that's how good he was. Love to see him win it. I don't think he will. I think Doncic shall win it because again we're enamored with the high scoring, even though Alexander was third in the league scoring. We mentioned defense, well,
Rudy Gobert won the Defensive Player of the Year award. Here's what I can't help but wonder Victor webbin Yama I think should have won it, but he's a rookie. If he puts together that type of season and he's not a rookie, you think he wins it. I bet he does. Instead, it goes to Gobert, who finished six in the league in block shots, which you know what. That kind of pisses me off that I just said
that block shots isn't isn't the only defense? You know? He holds opponents to forty five percent shooting, which is among the best in all of basketball. So who gives a crap about black shots? Can you defend? I suppose it's a pretty important statistic for big guys, but it doesn't. It's not the be all end all when it comes to Defensive Player of the Year award anyway. Gobert has now won it four times. He won it in eighteen, he wanted in nineteen, he won it in twenty twenty one with
the Jazz Go Bears, now with Minnesota. There are two other men who have won the Defensive Player of the Year award four times in their careers. Who are they? One you should know Ben Wallace. The other was famous for a finger wag to Kenby Matumbo. Webin Yama finished second, bam Autabayo third. That's how it worked. And to wrap things up, Denver's Jamal Murray gets fined one hundred grand for the incident Monday night in game two.
Do you see what he did? He didn't get suspended in a regular season game he gets suspended. You could have injured somebody. He threw what appeared to be a heat pad on the floor while the game was going on, right in front of them. One hundred grand for a guy who makes millions of dollars is nothing. That's a joke of a justice system by the NBA. Second hour of Exis and Bros. On the other side, phone number on the Meyer hotline eight six six eight three eight forty eight forty three.
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be on your minding. In the world of sports, JJ Watt recently made headlines in sports because he said he was willing to come back if Demiko Ryans, the head coach of the Houston Texans, ever really needs him now. WAT is thirty five. He was named Rookie of the Year his rookie campaign, in which, by the way, he played with Demiko Ryans. He was named the Defensive Player of the Year three times his one hundred and fourteen and a half career. Your sacks rank him twenty fourth all time, So
yeah, that's good. If he says he's willing to make a little bit of a comeback. Sure, he's also now a new analyst for CBS on their show, on their NFL show, and I'm sure he'll do a really good job. Boomers. Siasing is out, Phil Simms is out. Both have had really nice runs. But I suppose the turning of the page takes place in every industry. So it's kind of unfortunate because you don't like to
see people lose their jobs. And I thought those guys were I thought probably a sias In more than Phil Simms was really good at what he did. Personally, I think there's way too many analysts on these pregame shows and postgame shows. I mean, you're basically getting in one thought and you're getting paid
millions and millions of dollars. But if the networks are making the money on it, who JJ Watt is in the news for a different reason yesterday, and that's because Austin Rivers, you know who Austin Rivers is right, played for a period of time in the NBA, son of Doc Rivers. Okay, he said something on Tuesday on the Pat McAfee show on ESPN. He said, because Pat McAfee, I'm sure you folks know this. He was in the NFL. He was a punter. He was a punter in the
in the NFL with the Indianapolis Colts. And he he's turned a really successful talk show into TV, so good for him. And he had Austin Rivers on and Rivers said this, I can take thirty players right now in the NBA and throw them in the NFL. You cannot take thirty NFL players and put them in the NBA. That might be I don't think you could do that, but that might be closer to NBA doing it to the NFL than
the other way around, so it might be. I mean, there are guys who were really good football players in high school, mind you, who later played in the NBA. Again, high school, it's tough to project. People always said, and look, he's a freak. He's one of the greatest players of all the time. Lebron James six eight two fifty to sixty could have played in the NFL. Maybe I don't know that nobody does now. He was recruited by Ohio State and Alabama and Miami and Notre Dame.
Mark Murphy, who was used to play safety in the NFL, played eleven years with Green Bay Packers, was the defensive coordinator at James's high school, and he was convinced, convinced that he would have been an NFL receiver because he was a two time All State selection. He had one hundred rocks and nineteen hundred yards and twenty seven. I mean, it was unbelievable what
he did. I guess I would say, if you think that could happen, why would people not believe the guy like Calvin Johnson who was sixty five, two hundred and forty pounds, or DK Metcalf who was six four, two hundred thirty pounds. Physical specimens could not make it. What makes you think that? I think they could, But I don't know. James was fast. He was incredible, right, okay, fair enough. Don't know, but it sure appears like he could have. Like Charlie Ward did it.
He's a quarterback in Florida State him in the Heisman Trophy and played for the New York Knicks. Pretty damn good. Allen Iverson was a hell of a player in the NBA, right, But he was a really good high school player. Jalen Suggs, who played for Villanovo, won a national championship. He's a really good high schoo football player. I don't know if that translates. I couldn't tell you if a guy played in high school who could play in the pros. How many times have we been wrong about things like
this? How many times we have to be proven that a lot? Who's the best high school football player you ever saw? I mean, Drew Henson was unbelievable, you guys. He was an All American punter. He's an All American quarterback. He had offers from any place in the country, went to Michigan. You all know the story, okay, And he played in the NFL. He's an unbelievable basketball player too. Averaged twenty nine points close to twenty nine points per game. So he's a really good football player.
He's an All American baseball player. He's all of a basketball player, made it to Triple A, made it to the majors, and made it in the NFL. Matt Barnes was a really good football player in high school. Could he have played in the NFL? I don't know. I know guys like Tony Gonzalez, he played college basketball, right, Yeah, he played college basketball and made it in the NFL. An Tonio Gates, We could go on. There's a number of guys who we've talked about in that regard
who played college basketball and then went and played in the NFL. Okay, some of these other guys that I just mentioned, or who Austin Rivers is thinking about, didn't. Julius Peppers, he's a dual sport athlete at North Carolina, a walk out on the basketball team. I don't know if people remember that. Jimmy Graham, he's part of the Hurricanes that reached the NCAA turned in two thousand and eight. Quinton Rollins for the Green Bay Packers.
He's a guard at Miami with the RedHawks. Julius Thomas at Portland State. Darren Fells another guy. He's a tight end in the NFL and played some college hoops. Don't tell me that guys in the NFL can't do it the other way around. That's ridiculous, because you know, damn well, they could. Austin Rivers should know that. JJ Watt was kind of taking offense to that and called him out. Jj Watt on X came out and said, you don't got a job at either right now, so go ahead and
try it. JJ Watson suggestion that he could do that no way, and he did say, for the record, I could absolutely not play in the NBA. Six hard follows is about all I could give you and call it a day. But don't be saying I can take thirty players right now in the NBA and throw them in the NFL. That's dissing another professional league and it ain't right and it couldn't do it anyway. Who do you think could make that transition besides some of the players I've already mentioned. Meyer Hotline eighty
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might be on your mind in the world of sports. JJ Watt recently made headlines in sports because he said he was willing to come back if Demiko Ryan's the head coach of the Houston Texans ever really needs him now. Watt is thirty five. He was named Rookie of the Year his rookie campaign, in which, by the way, he played with Demiko Ryans. He was named the Defensive Player of the Year three times. His one hundred and fourteen and a half career sacks rank him twenty fourth all time. So yeah, that's
good. If he says he's willing to make a little bit of a comeback. Sure. He's also now a new analyst for CBS on their show, on their NFL show, and I'm sure he'll do a really good job. Boomers Science is out, Phil Simms is out. Both have had really nice runs. But I suppose the turning of the page takes place in every industry. So it's kind of unfortunate because you don't like to see people lose their jobs. And I thought those guys were I thought probably a sias In more
than Phil Simms, was really good at what he did. Personally, I think there's way too many analysts on these pregame shows and postgame shows. I mean, you're basically getting in one thought, and you're getting paid millions and millions of dollars. But if the networks are making the money out it, who cares. JJ Watt is in the news for a different reason yesterday, and that's because Austin Rivers. You know who Austin Rivers is, right, played for a period of time in the NBA, son of Doc Rivers.
Okay, he said something on Tuesday. I'm the Pat McAfee show on ESPN. He said, because Pat McAfee, I'm sure you folks know this. He was in the NFL. He was a punter. He was a punter in the in the NFL with the Indianapolis Colts. And he he's turned a really successful talk show into TV, so good for him. And he had Austin Rivers on and Rivers said this, I can take thirty players, right now in the NBA and throw them in the NFL. You cannot take thirty
NFL players and put them in the NBA. That might be I don't think you can do that, but that might be closer to NBA doing it to the NFL than the other way around, So it might be. I mean, there are guys who were really good football players in high school, mind you, who later played in the NBA. Again, high school, it's tough to project. People always said, and look, he's a freak. He's one of the greatest players of all the time. Lebron James sixty eight
to fifty to sixty could have played in the NFL. Maybe, I don't know that. Nobody does now. He was recruited by Ohio State and Alabama and Miami and Notre Dame. Mark Murphy, who was used to play safety in the NFL, played eleven years with Green Bay Packers, was the defensive coordinator at James's high school, and he was convinced, convinced that he would have been an NFL receiver because he was a two time All State selection.
He had one hundred rocks and nineteen hundred yards and twenty seven I mean, it was unbelievable what he did. I guess I would say, if you think that could happen, why would people not believe the guy like Calvin Johnson who was sixty five two hundred and forty pounds, or DK Metcalf was sixty four to two hundred and thirty pounds. Physical specimens could not make it. What makes you think that? I think they could, but I don't know. James was fast. He was incredible, right, okay, fair enough?
Don't know, but it sure appears like he could have like Charlie Ward did it. Here's a quarterback in Florida State him in the Heisman Trophy and played for the New York Knicks. Pretty damn good. Allen Iverson was a hell of a player in the NBA, right, But he was a really good high school player. Jalen Suggs, who played for Villanovo won a national championship. He's a really good high school football player. I don't know if that translates. I couldn't tell you if a guy played in high school who
could play in the pros. How many times have we been wrong about things like this? How many times we have to be proven that a lot who's the best high school football player you ever saw. I mean, Drew Henson was unbelievable, you guys. He was an All American punter. He's an All American quarterback. He had offers from any place in the country, went to Michigan. You all know the story, Okay, and he played in the NFL. He's an unbelievable basketball player too. Averaged twenty nine points close
to twenty nine points per game. So he's a really good football player. He's an All American baseball player. He's all of a basketball player, made it to Triple A, made it to the majors, and made it in the NFL. Matt Barnes was a really good football player in high school. Could he have played in the NFL? I don't know. I know guys like Tony Gonzalez he played college basketball, right, Yeah, he played college basketball and made it in the NFL. Antonio Gates, We could go on.
There's a number of guys who we've talked about in that regard who played college basketball and then went and played in the NFL. Okay, some of these other guys that I just mentioned, or who Austin Rivers is thinking about, didn't Julius Peppers he's a dual sport athlete at North Carolina, a walk out on the basketball team. I don't know if people remember that. Jimmy Graham, he's part of the Hurricanes that reached the NCAA turned in two thousand
and eight. Quinton Rollins for the Green Bay Packers. He's a guard at Miami with the RedHawks. Julius Thomas at Portland State. Darren Fells another guy. He's a tight end in the NFL and played some college hoops. Don't tell me that guys in the NFL can't do it the other way around. That's ridiculous, because you know damn well they could. Austin Rivers should know that. JJ Watt was kind of taking offense to that and called him out. JJ Watt on X came out and said, you don't got a job
in either right now, so go ahead and try it. JJ Wat's not suggestion that he could do that, no way, And he did say, for the record, I could absolutely not play in the NBA. Six hard follows is about all I could give you and call it a day. But don't be saying I can take thirty players right now in the NBA and throw them in the NFL. That's dissing another profet in the league at it ain't right. It couldn't do it anyway. Who do you think could make that
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you can always text a sports radio to twenty one thousand. Tiger's a winter yesterday, hoping to win the series today in Cleveland, Parker Meadows demoted to Triple A because of the struggles. Andy and Banya is four for four yesterday on base five times, four run scored, four runs driven in two home runs. Not a bad day, huh. Also, really good hockey games last night, both ending in overtime. One in double lot the Rangers
beating the Hurricanes for to three. Colorado did the same, came from three goals down, now have whole ice beating Dallas for to three in overtime. The heroes were Vincent Trochek for New York, Miles Wood for the Abs. San Jose earns the lottery. They get the first overall pick. The three finalists for the Hart Trophy Nathan McKinnon, Connor McDavid, and Nikita Kucherov. In basketball Boston Rules, Cleveland one twenty to ninety five, Jaylen Brown had
thirty two OKC handles. Dallas won seventeen ninety five. Shay Gilgess Alexander Head twenty nine. Rudy Gobert wins Defensive Player of the Year Award. To the phone lines, Ben, who's waiting for us? We have Mark and gun League? Hi, Mark, good morning, good to talk to you. Hey, good morning, chef. How you doing. I'm doing great? How about yourself. Good. Good, Hey, you were talking about the NFL players and the NBA player stuff like that. I think it was back
in seventy two. I went to see an exhibition game of the Detroit Lions playing against the Grand Rapids Area coaches at Union High School and Charlie Sanders was school and everybody and I walked out of that gym. I was twelve years old. I walked out of that gym and I looked at my dad and said, he could be in the in the NBA easy. And my dad agreed with me on that, but he you should have seen this guy play.
Have you ever seen Charlie Sanders play basketball? I could only no, I did not, But only I only know of what he has told me or what he told me. Oh, and when he and I worked together, we worked together for years as part of the Lions broadcast, Charlie told me about his exploits as a as a basketball player. Yeah. Oh,
he was just fantastic. But one more thing I wanted to ask, if it comes to multi sports athletes, do you think that Rick Leach made the right choice in going into baseball, because I think he should have win in the football. And I'll listen to your comments on the air here. So Dave, thanks for taking my call and you're doing a great job. Thanks h. I appreciate it. Thanks very much. It's always good to talk to you, so we welcome at any time. That's a great question.
I who am I to say about what rick Leach should have done? Keep this in mind. I mean, he did have a ten year stint in Major League Baseball Detroit Toronto. What else did he play for? I think he completed a year in Texas, but he spent ten years. Would he have spent ten years in football? The reason a lot of guys make the chance that the transition to baseball. You know, Kirk Gibson, rick Leach,
they were both first round picks for the Tigers. Oh, he played in He played a year in Texas, in the year in San Francisco. The reason they do that, as you know, is for longevity and health reasons. And these guys like playing games. People like playing games in baseball, you play every day. In case people are unaware, rick Leach grew up in Flint, played at Flint Southwestern all right, and he was also a basketball player too. I mean he was an All conference player. He's
one of the best athletes the States ever produced. Four year starter at quarterback at Michigan, also played baseball there what was it, three Big Ten titles All Big Tennis quarterback three times. He was third in the Heisman Trophy voting as a senior as an All American, but he was a Big Ten batting champ his junior year, so he was. He was an All American in
baseball and football. When you're a first round pick just because you don't play for the team that drafted you and your first round pick, that's pretty damn good, right, you'd take that. I don't know how effective Rick Leach would have been in the NFL with his style of play, you know what would have happened. I don't know. I don't think he was an option quarterback. He was a running quarterback though he's a hell of an athlete.
I remember reading an article about Rick Leach and they had asked him, did you wish you'd chosen football? And he said immediately no, absolutely not. He was pursued, like I don't even know if he would have been drafted highly in the NFL. I think there was a team, I think it was Montreal in the CFL who wanted him, and now you look at it, he was a fifth round pick. He was a fifth round pick in the NFL by Denver Red Miller. Do you remember Red Miller? Remember Craig
Morton and the Orange Crush when they made the Super Bowl? I think it was seventy nine. Anyway, when the Tigers drafted him in the first round, thirteenth overall in June. He was drafted in May by Denver and then drafted in Major League Baseball in June, and he said, you know, I get a chance to stay in my home state, play in the major leagues in front of friends and family for the team I loved. And I looked at the longevity factor, the injury factor and everything. So he never
regretted it once. So he played, you know what, eight hundred games or in Major League baseball. That's a really good question. He's better to answer it. But he's answered it in an article or two, I'm sure since and you could make the argument that he did make the right choice. When you have a ten year career doesn't mean he played one hundred and sixty two games every year. Kirk Gibson, who's a friend of mine, he
was an All American football player and an All American baseball player. He'd have been a top top ten pick for sure in the National Football League, easily one of the best wide receivers in the country. And he just killed everybody. He flew by everybody. That dude was incredibly fast. He would challenge guys. People would say, you're really not that fast, he says, twenty bucks. To prove it, they'd go over to the local high school or a track and blow him away. He'd tell guys to their face,
hey man, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna run a post and there's nothing you can do about it. And he would do it. Two sports stars. Some guys just have it. Bo Jackson amazing, Dion Sanders amazing, Brian Jordan amazing because they did it in football and baseball. Remember soon thereafter or soon there before that was never you really never did it.
There's only one guy I believe in reading, there's only one guy I believe who has played in the NBA and played in the NFL, and that's but Grant, you gotta go way, way, way way back for that. That's how rare it is. But that's a really good point about Charlie Sanders. Charlie Sanders was at the University of Minnesota, and he was a phenomenal athlete. Remember the All Decade team in the seventies. Hall of Famer, but yes, it was a hell of a basketball player. This is
old news. I'm sure you already know this. One of the greatest athletes you probably would ever see is Dave Winfield. Dave Winfield was actually at the University of Minnesota on a baseball scholarship, but they saw him in the gym one day in a pickup game, gave him a basketball scholarship. He could have been He could have been a Major League Baseball player, which he was. He's a Hall of Famer, nomenal player. He could have been a guy you could see play in the NBA, and he could have been in
the NFL. There's no doubt about that. See guys like Kyler Murray, who was drafted by the A's and plays quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. I don't know what he would have been in Major League Baseball. I think that's the one that's a little difficult to try and examine and figure out whether or not a guy would be effective. But Dave Winfield, who was what six ' six. He led Minnesota to a Big Ten basketball championship. He won
the College World Series MVP as a senior. They wanted him to play football. He was a man amongst boy. He was incredible, hit the ball of country mile but could score the Padres drafted in the first round, the Atlanta Hawks drafted him in the fifth round, and the Minnesota Vikings drafted him in the seventeenth round. At the time, he was one of only four players in history to be drafted in three different sports, one of four. The other are Mickey McCarty played a year on the Chiefs, Noel Jenke no
Idea, and Dave Logan who played for the Browns in the eighties. But he was drafted. Actually, if you think about it, Dave Winfield was drafted in four leagues because the ABA, the Utah Stars at the time, drafted him in the fourth round. That's how good he was. Right now, Ben's going, holy crap, Who the hell's Dave Winfield. Vikings thought he was going to play tight end so he could run and catch. That's an athlete. That's a guy who could do it all. So sometimes you
need to put things in perspective, Austin Rivers, whomever. Before you start saying stuff like that, those types of athletes. But just because you played in high school, I mean, Dave Winfield did in college. Just because you played in high school doesn't really matter, because there's a lot of really good high school football players out there who can't make the jump to the next level. I'll bring I'll give you a good example. I've called the high
school state championships for about thirty years. I really enjoy it, and I enjoy it because I'd like seeing players from smaller towns, all their schools who maybe don't always get the recognition they deserve, but the opportunity to see who they are and what they can do, and see them against talent that they may not have seen during the regular season or whatever get the chance to see
unless they played in a state title game. I love hearing stories from coaches about what kids do not only in the community, but in the classroom and what they have to sacrifice in order to get there. One of my favorite stories was I was talking with a coach one time and he said, yeah, we almost missed this kid. I forget his name, but we almost missed him in our state semifinal game because it was his turn to work the
farm. And I said, what do you mean work the farm? He said, well, it's hunting season and his dad and his brother were going hunting and they said to him, sorry, State semi final or not, it's your turn to do the chill. And he had to get up and do those roughly four o'clock in the morning before going to play in his semi final game. And he had to get it all done. That's discipline, man, It's awesome. It was one of the best stories ever. I
loved it, and I told that during the broadcast. Well, one of the best players I saw in a state championship game is a kid by the name of Mark Catlan and he played it Lowell for the Red Arrows and he played in a Division I think it was Division three state championship game. He owned the field. He was a quarterback and a cornerback. He was the best player by far on the field to play. And I believe he went to Grand Valley and played cornerback. So you put his highlight reel film on
and you go, oh, good lord. But it's not like he went to a Power five school, went and played college ball. Though it's a hell of a job. Good for him, it's not easy to do. My point is, just because he was great in high school and he was, doesn't mean you're going to be an NFL player, folks, if you're not, If you can't be a great NFL player based on how great you were in college, Hi, Brian Bosworth, Hi to Marcus Russell, Hi,
Tony Mandrich. Doesn't mean just because you were a hell of a high school player didn't pursue that sport and chose to focus on something else that you automatically get a free pass to being thought of as an NFL talent. Meyer hotline is eight six six eight three eight forty eight forty three. The text
line is sports radio to twenty one thousand. I think it's there's too often we kind of just we see the talent, we see the skill set, and we think it automatically translates, and athletes, by the way, lose sight of that too. Austin Rivers is a really good example. Does he know what it takes? And that's where JJ Watts offence comes into play. Does he know what it takes to play in the NFL? Just because you're
big, just because you're strong doesn't mean you can do it. High brock Lesner, big, strong wrestler and all that stuff, couldn't make it in the NFL. Dwayne Johnson guys couldn't make it in that league for various reasons, even though they're big, and even though they're strong, and even though they may have had a very good college career. There is a kid who played at Maryland and was the player of the year in lacrosse, leading the
Turps to a national championship. He was done. He had a fifth year eligibility. He went to Farris State and for Toni Nice played quarterback and won the Harlan Hill Trophy and a national championship for the Bulldogs, and then was an undrafted free agent and made the Atlanta Falcons. How great of an athlete is that. That's impressive, that's outstanding. How great was he in high school? Don't know? Didn't play. He's not playing quarterback in the NFL.
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not that a tame? We weren't good. There's no sense asking me things about the game. I'm telling you. We laid an egg, So I'm not going to break it down for you. He sucks. He sucked. He laid an egg. That's all I have to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not going to break it down for you. Nothing went well for us. It's on us. We have to figure it out. And we went dad. All right. Things went well for the Tigers yesterday and
their win over Cleveland. Offensively, it went well. You see, sometimes in baseball, sometimes the offense is good and the pitching not so good. Sometimes the pitching's really good, the offense not so good. The beauty of baseball for teams that play well on a regular basis is they get both. We want that. It's not always easy to achieve, but that's what you strive for. Welcome to the Final Hour of ex'es and Bros. Monday through
Friday, six till nine throughout the great State of Michigan. I'm Matt Sheppard. Ben is our producer. You can call him on the Meyer Hotline eighty six six eight three eight forty eight forty three. You can text US Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. Tigers do win eleven to seven over Cleveland yesterday. Andy Abannya is the offensive hero four for four, a walk, four run score, drives in for two home runs, and he was on base
five times. The concern has to be Kentamaeta two innings, seven runs allowed, the era just under seven in seven starts. And we said this in the six o'clock hour in case you missed it. This is a guy who, you know, the most starts since his rookie year, most starts he's had his twenty six, he's at seven right now. If you get twenty two like he got a year ago, you're almost at thirty three percent of your starts. When are you going to judge slash recognize who he is and
what he is capable of. That's up to you. I'm not going to necessarily do that right now, but I'm going to tell you that this is a growing concern. Guy makes fourteen million bucks. He's not a two year deal. He's got to get right. It's important. Rangers beat the Hurricanes in double overtime four to three, Vincent Trocheck with the game winner. Colorado comes from three goals down, uses overtime to beat Dallas for to three. Miles Wood the hero san ose the worst team in the NHL rewarded for it.
They are. They're going to get the number one pick in the draft. The three finals for the Hard Trophy Nathan McKinnon Colorado, Connor McDavid Edmonton, and Tampa's Nikita Kuchirov No Austin Matthews. Despite scoring a league high sixty nine goals in the NBA, Boston beats up Cleveland one, twenty to ninety five. Derek White is such an interesting story, a late round draft pick. Twenty eight triples over a six game playoff span, which is the most
in Boston Celtics playoff history. I would have guessed Paul Piercer, Larry Bird. I wouldn't have gone so far as to say Chris Ford. I would have said the other two, but the answer is Derek White. He is the franchise leader in that category. And Shay gilgis Alexander, who's a better player than most of it. If he didn't play in OKC, dot dot dot. We hear that all the time, don't we. If he didn't if he played in Boston or New York or Los Angeles, well, he
plays in Oka. See this, dude is awesome. Twenty nine points, nine boards, nine dimes. He and OKAC handled Dallas one seventeen ninety five. Would not be surprised if that series is a sweep because OKC plays both ends of the floor and they're deep. Dallas is more of an offensive minded team and they're not deep. And Rudy Gobert wins a Defensive Player of the Year award. That's the fourth time that's happened in his career, the other
three with Utah, this one with Minnesota. There's only two other players in the history of the NBA who have won the Defensive Player of the Year award four times, and one of them's a Piston, and it's Ben Wallace. The other guy, by the way, is to Kenmy Mtumbo. Let's get to some techs because Ben's been waiting and chomping at the bit to give it to us. Yeah. Ben, we got some great players that were texted in, Charlie Ward, Tony Gwynn, JJ Evans, and Carl Weathers.
Carl Weather's the actor, a little bit of a cup of coffee. Tony Gwyn good point. But Tony gwyn is baseball and basketball, not football and basketball. Otherwise you can go Kenny Lofton. Kenny Lofton is point guard at Arizona. So we weren't necessarily focused on dual athletes. There's plenty of those.
We were focused on football and basketball. Because Austin Rivers told Pat McAfee in a podcast or on his TV show, I should say that he could name thirty players right now in the NBA who could play in the NFL. I'd love to know who those thirty players are. So if he were on my show and he said that, I would say go right away, I'd say, all right, go who are they? I know who the first name is going to be. It's going to be Lebron James. I'd love to know who else? Who else is it going to be? Now?
Keep in mind, this is not a knock on Lebron James. He's an amazing athlete, arguably the best you've ever seen, because what he did in high school and the recruiting. The letters he got for football speak for themselves. His numbers in high school amazing, one hundred rocks, you know, two thousand yards, getting letters from Miami and Alabama and Auburn and Georgia and places like that. I've told you this story Byron Buxton, who plays in
Major League Baseball from the Minnesota Twins. He was a highly recruited wide receiver for Georgia but chose to focus on baseball. The point is, I'd love to know from Austin Rivers who, besides Lebron James, who else. Don't just give me a guy who's well, he was athletic. A lot of NBA guys are athletic, super athletic. I don't think Luka Doncic could play in the NBA or in the NFL. He's a hell of a player in the NBA and he's really athletic. Now, Anthony Edwards, yeah, I
could buy that. I don't know what his background is. I don't know if Anthony Edwards played high school football, and if he did, I don't care. Did Kirby Smart? Do you think there's ever a time when Anthony Edwards was at Georgia that Kirby Smart thought, let's see if this kid can play football? I don't. I don't know that, but I doubt you can name thirty and JJ Watt pushback. That's the reason for the text. What else we got, Ben? Yeah, it says I want to see
rag Now on the Pistons. They need a player who can lead and play every game through tough times. Yeah, I'd love to see Frank Ragnow too, because he'd clear space. Now here's the smart alec in me. He didn't play every game. He got hurt too. Might might not be the best example. Penney School. Maybe how about that? Can we do that instead? Jack Campbell? I mean big tough, strong guys. Here's the problem, though, we're not being too serious about this. What the Pistons
needs a shoot her? They don't need they don't need a space cleaner. They need a more than anything else. But that's funny. That's a good one. Anybody else on a text? Yeah, it says for multi sports, I think of three guys, Gibby Dave Winfield and probably the best. Bo Jackson. Yeah. Bo Jackson was just amazing. Dean Sanders was really good too then, and that's why I brought up Brian Jordan too. I mean, he's a forgotten guy. Brian Jordan played for the Braves and played
for the Falcons. He's the forgotten guy he was. He's a safety and he was an outfielder and he was pretty damn good man. He didn't have the highlight reel plays in football that Dion Sanders had or Bo Jackson had, and Bo Jackson had him in football and in baseball because Bo Jackson possessed a howitzer like you would not believe, one of the best arms you've ever seen.
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Accept this for a long time, and the reason I've said it is because it is It's true, and that's the NFL is better at marketing themselves, their product, and their athletes than any other league. It's not even close. Why leagues don't copy them more, I don't know. But they keep themselves in the news on a regular basis, and writers write about them all the time, write about the league, and I mean update it. You'll go to some websites and you'll look at the other leagues and it'll be
kind of the same headlines from the day before. The NFL is fresh. There's always an opinion on something. It's captivating. They're still breaking down the best drafts. They are still breaking down who people feel will have the best rookie year. A recent article I read seven rookies were selected to the NFL Pro Bowl a year ago. Who has that chance this year? And then they break down various categories who had the most success during the draft. A
lot of people feel like it's Chicago. When you can put together a Dunzee in Williams, that's pretty impressive. I would argue, and I think others have said the same, that the Pittsburgh Steelers probably had the best draft. Troy Fatano, Zach Frasier, Roman Wilson, Peyton Wilson, Mason McCormick.
Primarily the trenches front seven if you want to include a linebacker. So of their what one, two, three, four, five, five first picks, I think it's fair to say four were in the trenches, and actually five of their first six were in the trenches, So I would argue that. But if people want to say the Bears, that's cool. Some people feel like Washington, Jaden Daniels, Johnny Newton, Mike Sanders still out of Michigan, Luke McCaffrey wide receiver. They break down who had the worst.
Who do they think is going to be offensive rookie of the year. I would side a little bit toward Malik Neighbors personally, but that's because I really like Neighbors. I have to remember, somebody's got to be able to get them the ball. How confident do you feel that Daniel Jones will be able to do that. I don't know. When they wrote defensive Rookie of the Year, Terry On Arnold's name was the first mentioned. And here's what Josh
Edwards CEBA Sports wrote about Terry on Arnold. The decision boiled down to either the Colts pass Rusher out to Lafu Latu rather and Arnold, and he said, I want to provide this perspective when it comes to Rookie of the Year on ours. You're looking for an impact performer who's ready to contribute from week one. I'm sure Latuo will be ready to contribute week one for the Colts too. But whatever, he says, Arnold plays for a Detroit team that
should make a run in the playoffs. Okay, that's a wasted sentence. I mean, what's your first reaction to that? No, blank, no kidding. He said. It also has an attacking front, which should allow him to capitalize on the back end. Not great insight, but the thought that of all the defensive players taken, and this takes everybody into account, not just first rounders, of all the defensive players taken, he did think highly enough of Detroit's Terry On Arnold to do that. That's cool. We
like that. I'm sure you expect the same not necessary Ricky of the year, but from week one he'll be a starter. I don't think there's any question about that. I think it's a pretty valid point. When you're talking about an attacking front. Find me a defense who's front four doesn't attack. If you've got a defense who's front four doesn't attack, you're not playing football, or you're sure as hell not playing successful football. Right. Those are
words just to take up some space. As far as I'm concerned, Detroit should make a run in the playoffs, no kidding. They made the NFC Championship Game a year ago. They got better in the offseason. Yes, there's no question they should make a run in the playoffs. And if they don't, and many would argue in Detroit, if you don't make the super Bowl, it's not a successful season. Now, you may shake your head.
Some may shake their head and say, come on, man, I mean a lot of things have to go right, so on and so hey. When your franchise has never been there, when you've got that window of opportunity, when you have an architect like Brad Holmes at a coach who demands respect and appreciation in Dan Campbell, and you've got the talent Detroit has, and it's relatively young, and there's a perfect mix, we think, a perfect mix, and they're going to do whatever they can, especially at the
trade deadline, to fill in the holes. You damn right, you have high expectations. That's a good thing. It's a really good thing to say. You know what, we're on the right track now. We've reached what we think will be the pinnacle. It's not the Orlando Magic basketball team. We talked about it on Monday, Paula ben Carral. What did he say. There's a lot of reasons to be optimistic. They were okay, not that they wanted this, but they understand the situation. So they were okay
reaching the postseason and losing in Game seven to Cleveland. They're dealing with it because they feel like it's the footprint. It's the start of what they consider to be something big Lions fans have already gone through that. They went through that two years ago, not this past year, but two years ago.
Last year was the next step. This year needs to be the final voyage and what they hope will be the start of something big, A nice little run here, not saying at Kansas City Chiefs run where you're winning super Bowls, you know, and playing super Bowls and four out of five or three out of four whatever we're talking about getting there and then you feel like,
yeah, got a chance to win it. Other teams have had that opportunity San Francisco under Kyle Shanahan and not being able to kick in the door. But don't give me this. This is a team that should make a run in the playoffs. No, this is a team that expects to make the Super Bowl. What a refreshing feeling that is going into training camp this year.
A team that other teams want to be like, a team, a fan base that other fans wish they could be, or even better or just as good, I should say, a fan base where others would go, yeah, I want to see them do well. Now, some of that, unfortunately has to do with the past ineptitude of this franchise, but they still feel I think a lot of people around the NFL, if my team
can't win, I wouldn't mind seeing this team do just that. And I think that's that's a pretty cool feeling that Lions fans can embrace, and I think they will. And it starts, you know, with the established veterans that they have, but some of this new blood that they have in camp soon and it starts with Terry on Arnold. Now there's a really cool story, a special story about another Lions draft pick. I don't know if you've heard this one yet, but we'll get to that when we come back.
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the NBA draft back in two thousand and sixteen. Would you take Jaylen Brown over Ben Simmons and Brandon Ingram. This is what we do all the time. I do it constantly. Looking back, I remember that draft and thinking, man, Buddy Healed can shoot. He can flat out get it done. And I liked the kid by the name of Tarian Prince out of Baylor. Now with the top five pick, I'm just saying I really liked him. Jaylen Brown has been the best player. Well. Jamal Murray was in
that draft too. Jamal Murray was pretty damn good. Would take any of those guys. I talked about this the other day. That's the year the Pistons wisely took Henry Ellenson, who played one year at Marquette. Needed a shooter, got to take him. Karris LeVert was there for them, but so was Pascal Siakam. And Pascal Siakam has been damn good. You'd take him in a minute. Guys drop for whatever reason they fall. Jalen Brown didn't, but he's been the better of the top three picks, and you
could argue the best player in that draft. Murray would probably be right behind him. Welcome back, Exus and Bros. The Meyer Hotline eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. Let we said this regarding the NFL Draft and the Lions in the last segment, and how a website predicted Terryan Allen Arnold rather being a Rookie of the Year candidate defensive Rookie of the Year candidate. I don't know if us Rakestraw will be I don't even know if
he's going to start. The scouting report on him is that he's got really good length. He's got really good start and stopability, which is kind of an underrated trait for corners because guys, do you know, double moves all the time, does a really good job of mirroring receivers. He's got great instincts, good he reads things really well. He's really tough as a run defender, fights off blocks really well, tackles well, all things that you
definitely want. And it's a reason he was taken, you know, in the second round, twenty ninth in the second round. Here's another cool thing about nus Rakestraw, who was born in Texas but grew up just outside of Dallas. When he was selected, he fulfilled every kid's dream is to do this. I mean, if you play football is a little leaguer and you have some type of success, you're probably thinking of yourself, Man, I want to do this for the rest of my life. Who doesn't want to
be a professional athlete. All these kids playing and playgrounds and stuff. I mean, they they got dreams. Not all of them are realistic, and maybe not all of them are for quote unquote the sport that they're playing. But there's a fleeting moment there where you envision yourself doing that. I know me and my friends did while we were playing baseball. We wanted to be a Tiger. When we go to a baseball game, we wanted to be a Tiger. When we went to a football game, we wanted to play
for the Detroit Lions. At some point, realism kicks in and you're like, this is never going to happen. But it's still fun to dream, right, Who in the backyard doesn't feel like I want to make the winning play. I want to direct the winning drive. All that stuff, right, all the stuff that Joe Burrow has lived and Josh Allen has lived, and Pat Mahomes has lived. All that stuff well. When Rakestraw was in fourth grade, he wrote a letter to one of his teachers because Rakestraw had
some tough times growing up. I don't know if you saw this, but it's pretty awesome that he's chasing a dream. I get kind of choked up thinking about it and reading about it. But he wrote a letter to his teacher that he still has, and this is what he wrote. You're the best teacher ever. Her name is or the name is mister Gammon. Teacher is mister Gammon. You always had my back. You gave me confidence. When my little brother had a seizure, you gave me food and snap.
I wish I didn't want to leave you, but I have to. I hope you come and see me. Please come see me, I hope because I miss you again. He's in fourth grade, so he's writing. It's a little awkward and not exactly perfect, but who cares, he says. He wrote, I hope you're alive because if I make it to a professional football player, I will talk about you. Please give me your phone number,
and he's doing that. His former elementary school teacher caught wind of this because he posted it on social media and responding talking about the great pride that he has. You put it out there ten years old and made it happen. I have no words how proud I am of you telling everyone I played with you and against you through multiple touchdowns. You and you. Yes it was recess, but it was technically true. You know. It's kind of a funny aspect of it. The impact, you know, what you get
out of this dreams for sure. This is one of the many things I love about sports. The dream is there, Absolutely the encouragement, the impact you have, in this case, a grade school teacher, a grade school teacher in Dallas by the name of mister Gammon for Inness Rakestraw, or a coach. If you are a coach and you impact a player, whether that player makes it to the highest level or not, really is not as significant as the impact you're having on that person, whether it be tough love.
Some guys don't mind being coached Terry On Arnold. That's a big reason I loved that draft pick. Sure he's really talented. Sure he's one of the best cover corners in the draft. Mitchell for Toledo, Quinnion Mitchell or Terry On Arnold, take your pick. But Arnold apparently was number one on the Lions board. Yeah, I love that about him. But I love the fact that he doesn't mind being coached hard. While he was at Alabama.
Rekestraw has had to fight for everything he's gotten, like many players in many sports. But the appreciation that he has from way back when he was ten years old, and then the impact that that teacher had, it's a beautiful story. I'm sure there's a lot of people who are listening who are coaches themselves, little league coaches, and I hope we all keep it in perspective. I hope you recognize that you're not winning the Vince Lombardi Trophy in football.
Okay, it'd be great to lead your team, your little league team, your travel team, or your house league or your whatever league team to a championship, but how do you lead them number one and number two? Who gets an opportunity to be part of it? I sure hope it's everybody. I sure hope that you take the approach of playing all your players. I've always said this, Once you get di varsity in high school, all bets are off. You're playing the best players, There's no doubt about that.
But while you're coaching kids early on in life, what is the coach's job there? As a volunteer? Kudos, your job isn't first and foremost to make your son or daughter better. Your job, I think is to make all players better. But all players enjoy the sport they're playing, so they want to keep playing it and hopefully one day they give back as long as you're not putting them in harm's way. I coached all my kids in football and baseball to a certain point. At some point you've got to let
them go, right. But the impact you can have, I think is everlasting because you make those relationships with young men who then go on and play high school. One of the better compliments friends of mine and I ever received while coaching kids in grade school football is those kids went to high school and we didn't win a championship in grade school. It's not like we were out there celebrating. Hey, here we go. Now, this is what it's all about. We get to put a trophy in the school's trophy case.
That'd be great, it would be It'd be a lot of fun, And that was part of the reason you're out there competing. You want to compete, you want to win. Not a big believer in the UH runners up trophies and all that other stuff, But when the kids get to high school. At a high school coach says you've been well coached. That to me meant more than anything else. And the fact that every kid played and participated, knowing that the week's worth of practices were worth it to him or her.
That was most important. Being fair with your all your kids and wanting them or hoping that they want to play. Hey, you're gonna play in high school. Absolutely, that tells you something. They don't just love the sport, but they loved being coached by you. That's awesome. It's not about the parents, it's about the kids, you know at some point. I mean, you've had your time as a parent to be who you are.
Now you get a chance to dive into your kid's life and let them be who they're going to be. I coach my daughter too in the off season in lacrosse, and some of those girls, I coached a lot of them, just like I coached the boys. Strict, tough at times. I have some fun, absolutely, but this was high school. Now in the off season when coaches can't be part of them. I remember bringing the girls together and saying, listen, if it's too much, if you don't
like how I'm pushing you. If you don't like how I'm coaching, Let's talk about it. Let's make sure that you're all right with the direction we're taking these practices, because the last thing I want you to do is come in on a Sunday morning indoors in the winter time when it's chilly, You're getting up early and dreading coming to practice. Now, we love it, we want to be pushed, so on and so forth. That's the beauty
of it. That's the impact you have. And then when you have kids come up to you later on in life and saying you're one of my favorite coaches, or when you have a parent come up to you and say, you know, little Ben said still talks about you as one of your best coaches. Doesn't that make it more worth it than having some trophy that's in the school showcase when they're in seventh grade. To me, it does. The impact this school teacher made on Anus Rakestraw is immense and pretty cool.
Love that story. Hope we get more of those, not just for the Lions, but for sports in general. The impact people make on others and then the give back. So my hope from that would be Rakestraw has benefited from it and at some point and he sure seems like the kind of kid who would do this, kid's probably unfair. The young man who's going to do this, he's going to use the experience he had with that teacher and
try to make an impact with another young player or a young fan. At some point, he's going to be a sighting factor in that child's life. Doesn't have to be his child, just like it wasn't in his situation. When you've got a grade school teacher making that type of impact, and it's a little thing, but it's a big thing to him at the time. Such a cool story, such a feel good story. And there's so many of them in sports, so many. I remember when I was a coach.
I used to in baseball. I used if I were trying to describe or tell a young boy what he should be doing in the type of form he should have in pitching or hitting, or fielding or catching a fly ball, I would find one of my many baseball cards, because I still have them, I still have a ton of them. I would find one of my baseball cards that kind of explains through picture what I mean, and I would give them that baseball card. This is what I'm talking about. It
gives them a visual reference. I mean, kids today are more in a visual medium, right, They're constantly on their phones, they're on their iPads, they're on their laptops, they're looking, they're thirsting for information, but visual information. So trying to describe how you're supposed to hit the ball, how you're supposed to swivel your hips as a cornerback, how you're supposed to
have a swim move as a football player. Sometimes doesn't necessarily work. But if you show them, this is the way Reggie White clubbed his offensive lineman to get to the quarterback. This is the way Dion Sanders would swivel his hips when he was guarding a wide receiver. This is how Alan Trammel field at a ground ball. And you show them and they can reference that, it makes a little bit more of a difference. At least that's what I
found. Just like there was a difference in Innis Rakestraw's life and it came in grade school and he has never forgotten, never forgotten it, gotten it. That's that's the best, Absolutely the best. You guys are the best. Thanks to the phone calls on the Meyer hotline. Remember keep it in your phone on speed dial eight sixty six, eight three eight forty eight forty three. We appreciate the text as well. Our thanks to Ben for his
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