Made him trying to get free growing in the corner, Brown fakes, fires up the three, Brown knocks down the three to tie the game. Well, I love the way our guys fought in this game. This this loss is totally on me. With ten seconds in regulation, we should have just taken the time out, advanced the ball and found a way to get it in and made a free thrower two and ended the game. But it didn't
happen, and we made some other mistakes. But our guys just need to concentrate on fighting the way they fought in this game from start to finish. And we'll be back Thursday to call out Esvn that forced overtime, that Jalen Roun improbable three man that was a really difficult shot to make hand in a face in a corner, forces overtime and in Boston wins one thirty three one eight ot highest scoring conference finals game since nineteen eighty seven. Who played in
that Conference finals anyone? Bueller, Celtics and Pistons Jason Tatum at thirty six, Jaln Brown twenty six. After that call from Mike Breen and company, it was then Rick Carlisle, head coach Indiana Pacers, who's done an unbelievable job with the six seeds so far. He's blaming himself because his team had a three point lead with the ball with thirty seconds left, couldn't get it done, so they lose it over time, Boston up one game to none.
The other things they did wrong well, twenty two turnovers, second most by Indiana this year. It's not as much it wasn't as much about Boston's threatening defense and over pressuring defense as it was just carelessness on the part of the Pacers. They were I'm telling you, man, they were better than I thought. That's this Indiana team. You got to give them a lot of credit. This is These are the games, even in a loss. These are the games that kind of turn I think, turn people and make
them go. If I don't have a dog in the fight, it makes you go, you know. I I'm kind of rooting for them. I like the I like the way this team gets after it. NBA All Defensive Team announced Rudy Gobert. No surprise there, Anthony Davis, No surprise there. Although Anthony Davis said earlier this year, if you recall, Anthony Davis said the NBA doesn't like me. Do you remember that because he wasn't a finalist for Defensive Player of the Year, so he said, the NBA doesn't
like me. Go bear. It's his seventh All Defensive selection. Each one of those he was a first team selection. Davis five times All Defense, three times he's done it on the first team selection. Bam out of Bayo. He makes the All Defensive Team for the fifth time as a member of the Miami Heat. Victor Webbenya sixth rookie in NBA history to make the All
Defensive Team. The other five earned second team honors, though, like Tim Duncan and David Robinson and Minute Bowl and Keem Elijahana Kareem Abdul Jabarbik with the Milwaukee buck Back in nineteen seventy, they were all second team. Webbin Yama becomes the first ever rookie First Teamer. Impressive man. Now you want to know why Pistons fans get so damn upset for not getting a guy like that. The other mentioned is Herb Jones. He's the other first team selection,
first time that that's happened for him in his career. That's your NBA look right there, all right? NHL tonight Rangers and Panthers Eastern Conference Finals. Second ever playoff meeting between the two teams. First one was back in nineteen ninety seven. That's when Gretzky scored a natural hat trick and they won in the quarters. New York in the Conference finals for the second time in three years, they are trying to become the first President's Trophy winner to reach the
finals since the Blackhawks in twenty thirteen. Meanwhile, the Panthers are trying to become the second team in recent memory to reach the finals after losing the finals of the year before. Do you know the last team to do that? The Pittsburgh Penguins in two thousand and nine. Red Wings beat Pittsburgh in two thousand and eight. I was there. Pittsburgh turned around beat him in two thousand and nine. I was there, And in case you missed it,
we talked about the first half hour of the show. Royals blow out the Tigers ten to three. I saw in social media last night. I don't know why I do this to myself. Maybe you do it too. Social Media can be great for news, information, statistics. It can also be one big sesspool. But somebody had said on social media trade Trek Schooble if you're not going to pay him. So maybe I thought was, what do you mean trade him now? I'll be the I'll be full discoolsure here.
I wanted him to trade him a couple of years ago, get as much as you could before he got hurt. Remember he's been hurt a couple of times. He's had elble slash soulder surgery twice. He's a Scott Boris agent, or Scott Boris is his agent. I don't know how much he's going to warrant on the market when he does become available, Okay, because Boris has got clients like Harper and Seeger and Soto and Cole and Schurzer and j D Martinez and Xander Bogart's, Carlos Rodon, James Paxton and Jim reu Sean
Maniah Arius, those guys all right. For the top ten paid pitchers are Boris agents or Boris clients. I mean, would do you think it's going to cost Detroit more than what it costs to pay Blake Snell or Carlos Rodin Rodn at twenty eight million. It's not like he's asking for Verlander Schuzer to gromd Mone. He's not going to get that, right, He's not getting
forty million. Garrett Cole makes thirty six. That's not happening. But I found that interesting on social media that people were saying, already ready to give in on something like that. Meyer hotline eight six six eight three eight forty eight forty three, even tech Sports ready to twenty one thousand. Let's hit those phone lines. Ben, who's waiting for us? Yeah, we got Bob from Waters. Hi, Bob, how are you today? Oh? Real good? Thanks, I wanted to talk a little baseball real quick.
Scott Borrows was Steve Borris's brother. He played sixty years ago. Scott Borrows must be ninety. I don't know how old Scott Borrows is, to be honest with you. Well, you know, Steve Borros was a Tiger, but man, he was in the late sixties. Well anyway, yeah, Steve Boros was. He was the third basement, right, yeah, yeah, so he played back. Yeah, he played back in the sixties. Yep, mid sixties. I believe he's seventy. He'd be seventy four now
he's seventy four. Steve Borros's oh oh, he's from right, went to University of Michigan and played at Northern High School in Flint. Oh, I didn't know that. Hey, you know, I liked your interview with Tim Lester. You know he was he was with the original XFL Chicago Fire way back when they played Saturday nights and hot summer nights. And his backup was quarterback Tony Rice of nor To Dame. And oh yeah, these are the kind of people. They just wanted to be in the game somewhere, you
know, football's football. They you know, they're getting their reps and their experience. I like yourview, Yeah, thank you, Yeah, you get to to what you know. Right he was a he was a six round draft pick in the XFLU as well. Uh played in the Arena Football League. I think I think it was in Carolina and Memphis. But yeah, I look. I enjoyed the interview because he's got a he's got an uphill challenge with that terrible Iowa offense, that's for sure. Oh yeah, but
what about Iowa. You notice they they put all pro to Hall of Fame tight ends every year. I think of all the great tight ends that are in the NFL right now. Yeah, and offensive lineman, great great offensive Lineman for years, Bob, Thanks for the phone call. Sorry, we got to hit the break ten after the hour back with more of your phone calls on the Meyer hotline and you could text us Sports rated to twenty one thousand. This is X's of Bros. I'll the me you Can Sports Network.
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even. Terrek Scuoble gets the call. Trek scouble is Derek Scoobl's the guy, right, He's the guy to stop things. Tigers have lost three straight, They've lost three straight series. They've lost twelve of the last seventeen. They've lost nine of their last twelve on the road. Who do you turn to? You turn to the guy who is your ace? What does an ace mean? Ace isn't just your best pitcher. An ace is the guy who's going to take the bump on a regular basis. Got to be available
to be an ace, right and he throws against Cole Reagan's today. Got to be available. Got to give your team innings, and you've got to get wins. Stop the bleeding, not that they had any in Philadelphia. The Phillies have been playing incredible baseball. Lead the league in wins with thirty five. They've now won nine of their last eleven or twenty seven and six in their last thirty three. First time since nineteen oh one they've won twenty
seven games in a thirty three game span. That's a long time. Harper goes yard for his eleventh yesterday and got a good story on Harper coming up here. But Ranger Swarez is nine to zero, one of the best whips, walks, hits, beratings pitched in baseball. One more win and he matches a career high. Already, He's not their ace. They could have one of two, Aaron Nola or Zach Wheeler, and now you've got Ranger
Suarez. But they get the offense. There are offense clicks at the same time, and this will go full circle for what we've said for a long time, everyday players Schwarber, Realmuto, Harper, Bohm, Stott, Castianos,
six guys in there every day. And lately it's also been Cody Clements, former Tiger given up to Philadelphia with Juan Soto or with Greg Rissoto Foro, Matt Wierling, who's been a decent player for Detroit, Nick Maton no longer here, and Donnie Santz, who just signed a minor league deal with
the San Francisco Giants. How's that trade looking now? Nick Mayton is in the Oriole system, so he basically traded Greg ray Soto, who if you didn't want him as a closer, he'd still be a good left handed reliever. And Cody Clemens, who you drafted, who's an absolute baller. I'm not saying he's an All Star. I'm not saying he's an everyday player. He's a major league player. He gets after it, he busts his ass every day. He's a grinder. Got rid of those guys for two guys
who are no longer in your system, and Matt Verlin. So it's Matt Verlin for those two guys. And I like Matt Verling. I think he's an important piece, but wouldn't trade those two guys for him, would not have that has not worked out just yet. And you can't deny what the Phillies did a year ago with the trade while the Tigers were muddling, and you know, playing nick maton because everybody liked the little wolf in his damn
locker and everybody everyone got caught up and calling him Wolfie. We love these little nicknames and start howling on the air and stuff's ridiculous. Anyway, talking about the Tigers a little bit, and we were talking about just before the break, how people on social media yesterday were talking about trading Terrek School, which floored me. You want to give up your best guy right now, and they want to do it because they don't think long term they're going to
pay them. That could be okay, you think the value is at its highest, okay, because you don't want to You don't want to do a Michael Former situation right where you held on too long and then nothing came about. By the time you did trade him, you got nothing in return. They tried to convince us that we did get something in return, but you
didn't. That's my favorite look at what we have coming our way. Oh great, and then they hope you forget and most of us do most of us recognize, Oh okay, I see now, I remember you remember the guy you had. What you don't remember is the guy you got four the guy you had because unless that guy makes it. Do you remember Sawyer Gibson along right? Yeah, and he's been all right fullmore was at the end
of the deal and at the end of his career. Really, people talking about that on social media yesterday before School makes his start today against Cole Reagan's because they don't think the Tigers can afford him. Guy with two elbow surgeries or two arm surgeries? Arm elbow? How much do you think he's going to make? What do you think the number on that contract will be? We don't know just yet because it hasn't hit yet. He continues at this
rate, but the team continues at this rate. Sure, I understand why you'd think about it. A team out there would tell me me. A team that wouldn't want I got like Trek School in their rotation, Absolutely you would. So I understand to a certain extent the mindset. Not right now, I don't. As a general manager, you probably have to be thinking along those lines. If it continues at this rate, how much would you be willing to give? Those are the things that you're the conversations have to
have. You have to have those types of conversations of how much eventually do you think he's going to get? I mentioned Bryce Harper. Did you see the story about what Harper did helping a New Jersey high school student? Did you see this? Ben? I did? Not? Kids and neighbor walked up to Harper's house, knocked on the door. Couldn't believe that. Harper answered the door, asked him if he would help him get a prom date. Harper said, to tell you what, give me a email. Will
have to think about it. He goes, nah, Actually, let's do this right now. They go over to the young girl's house. Harper knocks on the door, she answers, comes out. She asks him, would you go to prom with him? Girl says yes, hugs Harper first. Then the kid, Jake Portello, a senior at Haydenfield Memorial High School, father comes out, shakes Harper's hand, and there's your prom date. Because going to PROMI is all about how you ask somebody, not who you ask.
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We've been hitting on the Tigers problems in case you just joined us. Lose to Kansas City last night. The Royals won five straight ten of thirteen. They're thirty one wins through fifty games, sixteen more than a year ago. This is a team that has improved quickly from a year ago, who they finished in last place in the division. Last year they were horrid. They were not fun to watch. What has turned the corner a lot of
different things. Bobby Wood Junior primarily really good player. Two homers last night, six RBIs had a stolen base. Third player to ever do that in a Royals uniform with Bo Jackson and Carlos Beltram. Fourth career multi homer game, fourteenth career homer and stolen base game, which is tied with Ronald Acuna since twenty twenty two, and that's when Witt made his major league debut. His home run off Casey Meis in the second travel four hundred and sixty eight
feet. It's the third longest of the year. Only Aaron Judge and My Trout, known as home run hitters, have hit them further Schoogle throws for the Tigers here today against Cole Reagan's two o'clock or so. As the Tigers try and snap a three game slide and try to drop out of a funk that has seen them lose twelve of seventeen and nine of twelve on the road, Casey Maiz takes the loss. Detroit has lost each of his last four
starts after winning each of his first five starts. It was his shortest stint of his career and forty eight career starts one and one two thirds innings or one in excuse me, one in two thirds innings. So Detroit is now eight and a half back. Because Cleveland won again yesterday, you're gonna start looking at the at the standings. There's going to be a time where it's gonna go. Okay, I'm yeah, I gotta pay attention here. They're
forty nine games deep, they're not even at the halfway point. But this is what you have to ask yourself. Do you believe a team like this can reel off a nice long winning streak similar to that of the Philadelphia Phillies to get them back in it, while at the same time the teams they're chasing would fall flat. That's what you have to ask yourself. What's your answer? I say, yes, I believe they can't. They haven't given me any indication that they can, but I do believe this team has that
ability because of its pitching. They better get this hitting right Meyer hotline eight six six eight three eight forty eight forty three. Then who's with us? Yeah? We got Maury and Grand Rapids. Maury, good morning, thanks for listening there in Grand Rapids on WAX ninety six point one FM. The game. What's going on? Hey, mag good morning to you too. You know, I'm thinking to myself about this Tigers team. Okay, if if we if Torkal Center or Byas or any combination of them, to where
somebody was just having a reasonably good season. Yeah, I don't think that Tarik Scooble conversation even hits the hits the market yet, you know what I mean? And that's like the bare minimum that we could you know, hope for because we we all know, you know, hey, if Green and Torque and and Byas were hitting good and you were getting you know, some some support here and their way, you know, we'd be we'd we'd have
a totally different perspective. By point of bringing that up is look how Volido it is, well a team like the Tigers that the narrative can can change so quickly compared to another team like you who's Castiana's playing for is Hemphilliser, Yes he is. Yeah, Okay, so you mentioned their lineup and it's like, yeah, you know what, you know that lineup might struggle a little bit, but in the long run, man, the numbers are going to prove out and they're going to be there. And this team doesn't have
that luxury to think that way at all. And I right think and man, how different it is. Man, how quickly the narrative can change it. Yeah, yeah, it's because you want. Look, I don't care what anybody says. I don't care how smart you are in the front office. I don't care how smart you are in a dugout. There's plenty of them out there who are a hell of a lot smarter than me. But here's what I do know. The best teams in baseball are built with everyday
players. And you want find me a team that's won a championship in any sport that uses guys who are I don't know, really versatile and not being your everyday guys in certain positions, basketball, football, hockey, out of crack, I don't care what the sport is. Find me the team that is full of a bunch of guys who can play different positions and do it differently each game, and that then there's there's your champion. I don't think you're finding it a team full of Ryan Rayburns. Yeah, I mean,
go ahead, Ryan Rayburns, go Shane Halter's goal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, I love players you're talking about right there. Trying to win with guys like that every day. That's just a great point, man, you know your baseball. Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I appreciate it. You do too more, I appreciate Look, I love players like go ahead and fill in the blank ben Zobrist. I like them. Do you remember Ben Zobras? Yeah, he was a really good
player. I think every team needs a player like that. I just don't want them starting every day. Go ahead, have some fun with whatever. I mean, I don't care. Pick a year, okay, and then go find a team that was successful, that is winning, all right, and tell me what their lineup looks like on an everyday basis. And you're gonna get guys who are everyday players. In baseball, it's the best teams.
Six we'd just say six guys. Yeah, hey, man, basketball, you're rotating eight guys for the most part, eight or nine guys. You know, Monty Williams played too many guys last year. Even he admitted that you'd like to play about eight or nine guys. Okay, the five or six are the same guys every time, seven, eight, nine, they might change a little bit. The best hockey teams, those guys are dressing every single night. You're gonna rotate your goalies once in a while,
but the great goalies, they're playing the lion's share of your games. Okay. Same thing in football, some reason you have special teams. The guys who aren't playing every single series in offense or defense are playing on your special teams. Baseball is no different. Baltimore has a payroll similar to that of the Detroit Tigers. It's a little misleading because there's so many young players.
They're gonna actually have to pay things eventually down the road. Think of the guys who are playing every day for Baltimore, Adelie Rushman, Gunner Henderson, Jordan Westberg, Ryan Mountcastle, Anthony Santander, Edrick Mullins, Colton Kowser. There's those are seven guys I just mentioned right there. Seven. Those are the guys who are playing every single day. And Rushman, well it probably
is a d H as much as catching, but he's a catcher. Look at the Boston Celtics go ahead shift shift gears if you want, go ahead, change the change them narrative if you will. From baseball to basketball, Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown, Derek White, uh Peyton Pritchard, Chris Christofspersing has been hurt, Drew Holliday, Al Horfords. I just named six guys they're playing every day or the majority of it. Okay, or Zingis was hurt, but he's in that rotation. Did I say Al Horford he's a
little older, but he still plays a lot. Those are the guys you're playing. That's why they win. Those guys are good and they deserve to play. Now, you could make the argument if you wanted, that the Tigers don't have that type of talent to play every day, and I agree with you. That's why my point has been, you've got to get those guys. Don't give me this in spring training or in training camp or all this other stuff. Okay, well we've got a really versatile team. That
tells you you don't have everyday players. Now you'll look at the statistics and you'll say Green is playing every day, Chorkleson's playing every day bias for the most part, verely are those guys worthy? And I like Spencer Troklesen. It's bad to eighteen man, he's got an be of under three hundred, it's got a slugging under three point fifty. That's an issue. I'm not saying, benjam I'm just saying, we're talking about guys who you know every
single day they're gonna produce for you. You're gonna put him in the lineup and they're gonna play that position and you're gonna be fine. I don't know where the hell Mark Canna is gonna play. I don't know where Matt Verlink's playing. Just a big believer in that. Too often, I'll be the first to admit, too often I harken back to the eighty fourteen It's not necessarily fair. It's just not because they were world champions and they are universally
loved in this town, just like the sixty eight team was. Most championship teams are, right, So let's not do that. Let's not go back and suggest that that's the team that you know, everything's measured against. So let's not do that. Let me just how about twenty twelve. Twenty twelve team won eighty eight games. Not too much to ask, right, who are your everyday players. Avila fielder right, Peralta, Cabrera, Jackson, there's five right there. I bring that up because Maury mentioned Ryan Rabert,
he was on that team. There's five right there. Omar and Fonte was at second base, right, but he wasn't an everyday guy. Andy Dirks played a little bit, Brendan Bosch played a little bit. But for the most part, you're talking about five or six guys every single game. They're out there twenty eleven, same thing, Avila Cabrera, Peralta, Ing, Jackson, Ordniez, Victor Martinez. Seven guys every single day. Jim Leland wrote out the lineup, and he knew who he was going to have in
his lineup. He knew he was going to have at least those seven guys. Ramon Santiago would go back and forth, Rayburn and Kelly. Your utility guys quote unquote, Your utility guys were Rayburn and Kelly. You get some at bats for Andy Dirks, maybe for Delman Young, but overall, you've got seven guys every day producing and in your lineup. This team doesn't have that. They don't have it. That's what would make some people a little skeptical. I don't think they're going to be able to do that. You
said, can they string it together? They haven't shown it yet. What makes you think they can. This has more to do with my belief that the other teams can't keep this up, that Cleveland and Kansas City can't keep this up, and you know, shame on me if they can't, because I haven't been that makes me a doubter. I can't. I just haven't seen that. I'm having a hard time grasping. Not that I was wrong, I can plenty of times I've been wrong, hard time grasping that those
teams have enough talent to continue at this rate. We're talking about tied for the best fifty game stretch in the history of the Kansas City Royals, and they've had some pretty good teams. So it's more to do with that than anything else. And there's some hope in there. I'm hoping that the Tigers can do something like that, and in fairness, they're about to play game fifty right now. I need to go a little bit deeper. I need to see them a little bit longer. I don't think this is the right
sample size yet. When will I get there? A few more weeks. If you're at seventy games, if you're at seventy games and you're still like this up and down, unable to get something really good together. Remember at the beginning of the year they did string it together. They went six and oh they started ten and three on the road, So you know it's in them. So there's another reason why I think it's a possibility. Keeping the fingers crossed back to the phone lines on the Meyer hotline, then who's with
us? You have? We got David Hudsonville. Hi, Dave, good to talk to you again. Yeah, morning, chef, you too. Hey, Listen, your your tiger sisty is impressive. Man, you're pulling out those guys that Dolman Young's and those other's. Well done by you. That that takes some memory, man, well done. But you know, your point too, is great. And I think one of the things you said that makes a lot of sense is in baseball especially, you need production.
And you don't necessarily need production out of all nine, but you need to have a couple of guys that are having really strong years, you know what I mean, are really consistent threats, and then you need to have some guys that just give you you know, they get hot at times, because I think you need to have two to four guys that are hot, you know, And what hurts us, I thought that Austin Meadows, it
is too bad because you need kind of a table setter. Sont even on base and you know, find their way on and we're getting some walks, we're having better at bats, but I just don't feel like we have those guys that really and especially like you talk about Torque right now or a few others that go up there and you feel like, other than maybe Riley Green and that they're a dangerous offensive threat. And Mark Kann is a professional hitter.
But other than that, we don't have enough offense right now. Producing and I think the key term is producing on a consistent basis to be a threat. Yeah. I couldn't have said it better myself. I agree one hundred percent. I think what is It's not that I don't like Mark Connell, Okay, I do. I think he's been a fine pickup for them. If people say he's a professional hitter, I'm not saying you, okay, so don't take this personally. Date right, he's a two to fifty
career, lifetime hitter. I mean, I'm not sure if you have no numbers. Yeah, I don't. I don't understand what people say when they go, oh, he's a professional hitter. I just what do you mean? So that shows you, though, how weak the Tigers are. When we think Mark Canna is one of our more consistent offensive drives, he should be like our six or seventh guy. You know, yeah, no doubt. I mean his best year he hit two seventy three. Okay, yeah,
that was in Oakland in twenty nineteen. We hit two seventy three and he hit twenty six bops. And yeah, you take that, you take it for sure. The problem is, Dave, we've lowered the bar. We've lowered the bar so much that we think and thanks for the phone, Cod, It's always good to talk to you. I gotta go to a break. You think that a guy hitting two seventy three twenty six homersoo, that's our guy most teams. That's just a guy and at the bottom of
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