Second hour of the program, ven as our producer, getting a call on the Meyer hotline eighty sixty six eight three eight forty three, or you can send a text to sports Radio to twenty one thousand. So somebody not too long ago said that the They said the Tigers are not a bad baseball team. They have a blow average offense, incredibly inconsistent offense looks like the worst at times. But if they can find a way to turn it into an
average offense, this team could be dangerous. No one wants to face this staff in a three or five game playoffs here playoffs? Me? Do I need to get into the Jim Morris playoffs? How do you, honestly, how do you talk like that? How do you actually think that that's a worthy discussion at this time right now when you're under five hundred and ten games back in the division? Oh oh, by the way, you sit in fourth place in the division. No one wants to face this staff in a
playoff series. You know why? Because the playoffs are a long way away. And who, just out of curiosity, Ben, who do you think would be let's just say it's a best three out of five? Who do you think would be your three starters in that series, just wondering who do you think it would be? It would be Terrek Schoobel taking the ball, and number one it'd be Jack Flaherty taking number two in resource in number three. Right. Ye's fair, Yes, that's fair. And granted they all
have good stuff. They have all at one point had a hiccup or two during the season, just like the offense has had a hiccup. Would you feel good with those three guys, I'm sure you would. But here's what you forget. The team you're playing in a playoff series, because this is where this person was going. The team you're playing in a playoff series. The reason they got there is because A they're pretty damn good. B they've got probably a better offense than you do. And see their pitching has got
to be pretty decent too. You're not going to face in a playoff series. You're not going to be fair. You Sai Kakuchi like they did the other day. Again, what did I say the six o'clock hour? I said, I if we're going to talk about them being bad at times, give them credit where credit is do and talk about them when they do a good job. The power was there over the weekend against Toronto, four home runs in the final game of that series, seven home runs overall, twenty
two extra base hits. That'll win you series. Man, right there. Absolutely, Pitching stumbled, offense picked them up. Offense struggled against Kansas City. Pitching did its best to try and pick it up, but couldn't. Inconsistency to suggest that, well, they're just a little inconsistent. That doesn't get you anywhere if they can find a way to turn it into an average
offense. They haven't been able to do that yet. But one of the responses to such a post was exactly what I said last week on why we feel like this is a greater disappointment than what we've even experienced so far, And it is because Kansas City and Cleveland. People don't know or believe in what they have. People don't believe that Kansas City is as good as their record indicates, and people sure as hell don't believe that Cleveland can sustain this
all year long. Okay, perhaps, I mean I don't think when all is said and done, I don't think Cleveland is going to have the second most wins in the American League to the Yankees. They don't have to. They just have to have more wins than Kansas City, Minnesota, Detroit, and Chicago. They've got a star, Jose Ramirez. Detroit does not. They've been more consistent. Kansas City has been more consistent. Doesn't mean I think they can keep it up, but we're not willing to give them credit.
And that's kind of always bothered me. It takes a lot to belie for you to believe in something, doesn't it And I think it takes a lot for you to change your mind about something. It does for me too. We're not dissimilar in that regard. But I'm not going to be blinded by a series win over Toronto either. You've got to be you gotta win series. You don't have to win every game, but you gotta win series. Look at Philadelphia now, they're arguably the best team in baseball. How
many series wins do they have? I think they had seven series sweeps already this year something like that. I forget what the number is. I said it just the other day. That's what it requires, that's how you get it done. Now, they just lost the series to the Rockies. They swept the Rangers, they swept the Nationals, they won the series against the Mets, they swept the Giants Angels. Yeah, I think they have seven
sweeps. I don't know how many series wins they have. But just because you beat an underachieving Toronto team doesn't mean that now suddenly you've got the recipe for success. Now I know what they have to do. They just have to be a little bit more consistent offensively. Well, no kidding, isn't that something that everybody has already come to grips with? How close are they? A lot of people feel like they're close, but they're also really far
away, which doesn't make much sense. But you feel like they're close because of the pitching and what the offense has quote unquote shown what it can do, But yet you feel so far away because the offense has been so bad for so long. That is a nice long way of saying, we don't know yet. We still have to be convinced that's what it's about. And it's hard to wait. It's hard because we want to have an opinion. The opinion is boring if we sit there and go, well, we're just
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in Major League Baseball. Well, the glee of people throughout baseball right now because of just how bad of an umpire he truly was he and he was. Strike zone was inconsistent, temperamental, didn't seem like he knew the rules. There was there's an account out there on X Well, this guy shows all these videos. It's amazing, all these videos of Angel Hernandez's mistakes.
You talk about a rough go of it. This guy's been a he's been an umpire since like nineteen well, no, a couple of decades, all right, long time, and all people remember him for is the negative things. You know, did he do some positives he had to have. He wouldn't have been behind the plate. He wouldn't have been umpiring for as long as he has three decades if he wasn't any good, right, is it fair to say? Remember this is the guy who sued Major League Baseball in
twenty seventeen alleging the league had engaged in racial discrimination. It was thrown out over and over and over again. Twenty eighteen, he had three calls reversed by replay in the first four innings. He'll talk about supporters of his will be a back injury, but we know why he's gone. There's a report that said just this year he called three strikes on pitches well off the plate against Wyatt Langford. Did you see that the rookie? Each one was a
little bit further outside. Here's the funny thing about this, and I'm not going to stick up for angel Ornandez. I called plenty of games with him, either on the Vasspaz or behind the plate. I'd go down to the umpire's room and say hello to the umpire's nice enough guy, really was, but wasn't very consistent, just wasn't very good. I think what his job was doesn't take away from the fact that he's a nice guy. But that's not why you stay in your position. But here's the funny thing about it.
I remember talking to Kirk Gibson one time where he was a rookie early in his career. But I think it was his rookie season and he saw a pitch come and he thought it was outside. He took it. It was strike one. I think it was Joe West who was the umpire. He took up for strike one and Gibby said something. The next pitch, saane pitch, similar location, a little bit further outside, called strike two. Gibbee complaints some more. Umpire said, wait, do you see where
the next one is? In other words, keep complaining that plate's going to be that strike. Someone is gonna get a lot larger for the picture. Now. I'm not saying it's the same thing with why at Langford. What I'm telling you is the umpires back then, back in the eighties, seventies
and eighties, we're missing balls and strikes two. What's the difference. The difference today is you have social media, you have statistics, you have websites, you have certain types of analytic equipment that allows you to gauge, judge and decipher whether or not an umpire or a referee is actually correct in their call. So that's what makes it really hard. Let's get into some texts
because we've got some. All you gotta do is Tech Sports Radio to twenty one thousand, Ben, What do we got for us today on a Tuesday morning? Yeah, it says, in my opinion, if this team wants to contend this year, if they need to make a Justin Verlander and Alex Bregman kind of trade and push one of the starters to the pen, I'll take my chances with scooball Verlander and Flaherty in a first round playoff series. I would I really like Alex Brigman. What would So it always begs this
question, what would you have to surrender? Now? I would remind you, well, first of all, I don't think Houston feels like they can't catch Seattle. Seattle has a They're three games over five hundred, they have the smallest lead in of any division leader, and I think most people would agree that they are not the best team in that division. So Houston probably
feels like they could still do something right. I'm not going to claim to know exactly what the Houston Astros need to win the division, or win the league or win the World Series. I'm not sure Detroit has it. I would just remind you now, it's a different management team in there, so
let's not burn them or associate them with what has happened before. But the Tigers, look, the Tigers need pop. I would rather have a guy like Kyle Tucker personally, but Bregman serves a lot of different needs that this team has. I just don't then he sets the right stage by the way I mean he he plays with San pay We know that you borrow a hockey
term. We know he's a tough dude. He's also thirty. Okay, he's also thirty years old, which isn't super old, but at some point is not having an Alex Bregman like year, And those are the things you've got to take into account. Does change his scenery getting reunited with a guy like AJ Hinch and all those other things. I can't say that that's exactly what's going to happen. But here's what we know. The guy's a two time All Star, big reason why Houston won a couple of World Series.
Historically, damn good player, right, He's not the player that led the league in doubles back in twenty eighteen, but he's still a pretty damn good player. I'd be a little concerned with what's going on right now now with him if he were on your team right now at age thirty hitting two six with four homers while at the same time, and unfortunately for athletes today, this is something that always has to be brought up while at the same time
making thirty million dollars, you would have a problem with it. He's going to be a free agent at the end of this year, by the way, you want to trade some young prospects, that's what to take. You want to trade some young players for Alex Bregman who's thirty making thirty million dollars. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just trying to bring this up, Okay, I'm just because I think sometimes we get caught up in names,
that's all. But he's thirty, struggling, makes thirty million dollars, and you want to bring in a forty one year old Justin Ferlander who's making forty three million dollars. Seventy three million combined for those two players who are combined seventy one years old. Probably not a fair way to put it, so I'll take that back, but the money is true. Bregman struggling. As I mentioned, Verlander has been Okay, I'm gonna run out of gas at
some point. Hall of Fame player or maybe the Texter is saying that type of deal, not specifically for those two players, but I think, oh, Verlander, we wanted to come home for a Tiger and Bregman, he's a really big name. They're not having great years and they make a lot of fricking money. We'll get back to more of that here in a moment, because that's a good text that allows us to think something that maybe most people would when we return after this huge yere for the Michigan High School Letic
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Monday through Friday as well. We've got which covered with strong opinions on anything that you consider important in the world of sports, and you could text us sports ready to twenty one thousand. Tigers were off yesterday. They will take on the Pirates in the first of a two game set starting tonight at Comerica Park. In basketball, last night, the Celtics beat the Pacers one five, one oh two. Jason Tatum had a double double, Jalen Brown had
twenty nine. Derek Whitehead sixteen hit a big three in the corner. Boston is into the NBA Finals for the second time in three years and the twenty third time overall. They've won seven consecutive games in the postseason. They are six and zero in the playoffs. Saying, yes, they were the beneficiary of some timely injuries by the opposition. Jimmy Butler in Miami, he made sure you know that pat Riley didn't like it. Donovan Mitchell in Cleveland,
Tyres Halliburton in Indiana. Just a reminder, Boston did be eat the Cavaliers in games with Donovan Mitchell in the lineup, and they did beat Indiana with Tyrese Haliburton in the lineup as well. I'm not gonna take anything away from Boston after what they've been able to do so far in the playoffs. They've only lost twice. They're really good. It's not like I'm a huge Celtics fan. You just got to give credit where credit is due. Dallas Stars
beat the Edmonton Oilers five to three last night. They scored three times in a three and a half minute span, Jason Robertson with his first career playoff hat trick. They lead the series two games to one. Connor McDavid had a goal and an assist in the loss. Alexander Zverev beat Rothfeld and the Dell And straight sets in the first round of the French sh Open. Here's
the mind blowing numbers for Rafael and Nadal. In Roland Garros in his career, he's one hundred and twelve and four one hundred and twelve wins in one hundred and sixteen matches. He's won fourteen titles there and there are only three men who have beaten him in a match. Novak Djokovic who beat him twice, Robin Soderling, who I have no idea who that is, and now Alexander Zaverev who I think is the four seed anyway, so kind of legit'
that's incredible, just incredible. Let's get to some texts Ben fire Away. Yeah, one of them says Stefan Diggs is a downgrade to the chemistry. He's a bad apple into the locker room. That's in reference to the NFL discussion we were having on an article that indicated there were nine evenly balanced teams. There were six defensively geared teams, nine were making, eleven offensively geared
teams, and only five teams they considered to be the total package. One of the total packages was the Houston Texans, and the reason they used Houston as an example is because CJ. Stroud getting help with Stefan Diggs. Now, Stefan Diggs I think is a really good player. Ben. Do you play fantasy football? Yes? I knew. Okay, would you take him on your team? Yeah? I would? Okay, Yeah. That doesn't make him a good locker room guy by any stretch, but he is productive,
Okay, he gets open. I would say, for the most part, outside of a playoff drop or two, he's been a pretty damn good player in his years in Buffalo. Four years in Buffalo, they're winning divisions. He led the league in receptions and yards in twenty twenty and was a pro bowler. He had over one hundred rocks each year in Buffalo. He had over twelve twelve hundred yards every year in Buffalo eleven eighty three. Can you give me the benefit of the doubt. He's a pro bowler all four
years in Buffalo. However, to the Texter's point, there's some baggage there. There is some possible disruption. Is he the reason that Buffalo fell short of their goals? Or was it Cincinnati or Kansas City or I don't know. I'm not gonna claim to know or lay at all. It's stuff on Digs's feet. But he does come with he comes with some extra attention. How's that. I think he's a hell of a receiver. And I know he's gonna be thirty years old or thirty one years old coming up, but
he could still play. I don't think Houston is as good as the Lions are. I don't think the Jets are as good as the Lions are. Baltimore legit, Kansas City legit, San Francisco legit. It's hard to argue when San Francisco beat you, head, dad, you're gonna play him again this year. They're a good football team, man, as Detroit made enough
improvements this offseason to take that final step. I think they have the thing that this article and we'll get to your phone calls here in a moment, the thing that this article doesn't really highlight, and if you missed it earlier, they have Detroit under offensively geared, that they're more offensively balanced than defensively, because they broke it down into four segments. The total package five teams, and I just mentioned those offensively geared defensively geared, or teams at the
beginning are more evenly balanced, which is not a knock. I mean you'd like to be evenly balanced. They viewed Detroit as more offensively. Ben Johnson obviously part of it, and because if there was a weak part, it was their defense a year ago. They need another pass rusher leave. But they're selling Detroit a little light offensively. They bring up golf, they bring up I'm on Ross Saint Brown, Where's Laporta, where's the dual threat of
Montgomery and Diggs? And their offensive line is the best. You can make the case the best in football. To the phone lines we go. It is the Meyer Hotline at eight sixty six eight three, eight forty eight forty three. Who's up? Yeah? We got two calls? First up as Scott and Grand Rapids. Scotti? How are man? Hey? Good chef? How you doing? But I'm great? Thanks for listen. Yeah I did. I hope you did too. Thanks for listening. Wax ninety six
point one in the game. What's going on? I got two points and they're similar, So let me let me get through the Tigers. They and the Alliance here real quick, but sure Tigers though HM going into season, every most publications and most people said that Minnesota was the most people will use that word balanced again, and that's where most prognosticators said that who was going to win the division. When they talked about Cleveland, they talked about their
pitching. When they talked about the Royals, they talked about their players, their their their youth and their in and the guys they could hit. And when they talk about the Lion or excuse me, the Tigers, it was always potential. They would always use the word potential. H do you agree with that? Did we lose? Scott might have lost them. Yeah, I think we might have lost called back the Okay, do you agree with
that, Scott? I I do think that. Uh uh. I don't like their offense anywhere, but defensively they Potentially we're going to be a lot better. Potentially we're going to be not more balanced. The offense is going to put up, but twenty five twenty eight points a game, I mean, we know that. I think that's a fair assessment. But when I was recruiting for Michigan State years and years and years ago, after a former
being there, I go to a high school coach in the IF. The first thing he told me about his kid was he drew off the chart. I never listened to that. Potentially, you know what, you know, what potential gets you in pros fired, the potential gets you fired as it go. Yeah, but I do believe this. I do believe this, Scott. I think and I apologize I missed a lot of what you were saying because you're kind of breaking up there. But thanks for the phone call.
I did get kind of the gist, and I wish we could talk longer because I didn't realize your background was recruiting from Michigan State. That's fantastic. I do believe part of when somebody says, and you would know this better than I would, because you recruit it when you go to a high school player or a high school coach, and the high school coach and scouts are telling you the potential is there if you have a really good coaching staff.
Shouldn't that coaching staff bring out that potential in a player some guys, and again Scott would know this better than I would because of his background, But some guys, look, they're there, but they don't get great coaching. There's that great coaching everywhere, high school, travel, teams, you. Great coaching can make a massive difference, putting players in the right spot to allow them to succeed, having them think the game, helping them learn,
and a little bit more seeing the little nuances that it takes. It's no surprise to anybody. It shouldn't be a surprise to anybody that the best coaches create the best teams. Players are getting better. Terry Francona is a great example in baseball. Many people would argue they didn't have the best talent. He's an incredible manager who can manage his manage the egos, manage people and bring out a coaching staff and knows what the hell they're doing. It's
not a surprise. So that's when you say, potential gets you fired. I don't know if he gets you fired. Not reaching a player's potential, I think gets you fired. But with if I want a really good athlete, or if I want a really good player and I see that he can get better with the right coaching, that's not a knock on the college or the high school coach he had before. Isn't that up to you to make
them better? Scott, how many times did you see a player in high school you were recruiting to Michigan State knowing, damn well, whatever coach was working with you. I don't know if it was Mark D'Antonio, whomever, but let's just say it is Mark d'antonian, knowing that Mark Antonio would love this guy because he could make him better. Absolutely, that's what you want.
I worked closely with John Beeline at the University of Michigan. I can't tell you how many people told me I can't believe Beeline just recruited fill in the blank, Zach Novak, Stu Douglas, Jordan Morgan, who the hell Is Duncan Robinson. They had potential. B a line saw it. He got the most out of the potential. So I don't think potential gets you fired. But I do believe great coaches in any sport can get the most
out of an individual's potential. And perhaps what was leading that individual athlete not to reach his truest potential was not just him, but was because of the coaches he was playing for. Interesting, Scott's background, didn't know that to the Meyer hotline eight six six eight three eight forty forty three. Who's next? Ben, David Hudsonville Dave, good morning, how are you hey?
Good morning, Chep. You know. Interesting. Building on what Scott said, so, coach Heathcote every summer at camp would show a video to all the campers of Michigan State Basketball Camp called Potential, and he did it for years, and he'd always say, potential is nothing unless you realize it. If you don't realize your potential, it's worthless. And then he used to tell me, he goes, God did not smile on you, young man. If you would have had that, you'd be a hell of a basketball
player. You know, based on physical gifts, you know, jud Judge was like Don Judge was like Don Rickles, okay in that regard and so forth, and what goes on with that. But what's interesting is you're exactly right about great coaches. I think you know, see athletes and and they you know, they understand what they might have and it's it becomes a mutual partnership to realize that potential. Are you willing to put in the work? Am I willing to work with you? And even now coaches though and his
staff will talk about, okaygees, those are our kind of guys. Michigan State Basketball recruits our kind of guys, and they look at guys who are going to put in that time and that work, have the right attitudes,
have the right family situation. You know, coaches that will say to a family, hey, if you can't deal with the fact that someday your son's name may be rolling on the bottom of ESPN saying he suspended for a game of two for a poor choice, then this isn't the program for you, because we have accountability, you know, and you'll have that conversation and so
forth. So and the other thing that they look at too, and shef you you brought this up in this day and age, they will look at kids who play multiple sports because now kids start so early and use sports and travel, But a lot of those kids have realized their potential way too early. If you've played multiple sports and you've changed seasons like we used to do as kids, you still have a lot more growth potential in your game.
You know, if you've thrown all these pitches since you've been ten or eleven years old, and travel all over and played basketballer done all this stuff, your ceiling is not as high as if you've played multiple sports. Then you have more to grow in your game and more to do that. Amen. I wish more people would preach that to kids and to parents. Quite honestly, I think it as much the parents' fault as it is the kids fault.
I think there's a lot of kids who would love to play multiple sports, but I think parents to a certain extent may be living vicariously through their kids and feel like they feel like they have to have them zero in on one specific sport too early in life. And then those kids might I'm not saying all of them, but some kids might get get sick and tired of
it playing multiple sports. I mean, depending on how many you're playing, but playing multiple sports can really help you with the other sports you're playing, without question. And you know, great high schools always have a core of athletes that they get into multiple sports because they're just excellent athletes and they need
them across different sports in order to build core teams and do that. But you're right too, the biggest business that we've seen over the last fifteen years is the growth of private coaches and private you know two us who come in and do this or do that. A one last thing for your chep too. On football. So I think the sneaky trade that I wish the Lions would have made would and I applaud the Bears getting Keenan Allen with a fourth
round draft choice. Yeah, Allen has killed the Lions for years. I would have loved to have him as a possession receiver opposite Jamison Williams and I'm Monrah and being able to do that for a fourth rounder, I think that's the hell of a pickout for them. Yeah, I think it's a really good pick up. And I love that call. You're dead on there. Thanks for the phone call. They've have a great day, So there's a lot of things to chew on there. With Keenan Allen, I don't know
what the contract is there, so I need to look that up. With Laporta, Gibbs out of the backfield, Montgomery out of the backfield. Sometimes the expectation it's going to be huge for Jamison this year. Jamison Williams has got to be the type of guy you expected him to be when he came out of Alabama. That's huge. I do want to get to what we were talking about with use Sports when we come back on the final hour of Exes and Bros. Right after this, there's a new player in town.
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