Second hour of the program. Welcome to Exus and Bros. I'm the Meyer Hotline eighty six six eight three eight forty forty three. That's the number you could call to join in the conversation. We'd left off discussing Nicola Jokic and just how good he is. Paul likelihood will make his sixth All NBA team
starting won his third MVP in the last four years. And I was reading about this last night, thinking to myself, when you join the likes of Jabbar and Malone and Russell and Chamberlain and Jordan and Byrd and Magic Johnson, guys like that as winners of three MVPs are more Because Jabbar won six, Russell won five, Chamberlain won four, I think to myself, that's he's destined to be a Hall of Famer. I'm going to give you some numbers
associated with some of the greatest big men to ever play. Some of them have to be skewed, and I'll explain here in a minute. Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the greatest big man to ever play. I know many of you think it's Shaquille O'Neal. It might be that's your opinion. Kareem Abdul Jabbar had the shot and no one could stop. He won six titles. He was an MVP six times. He was All NBA First Team fifteen times. Bill Russell won eleven titles, five MVPs, all NBA First Team eleven times.
Will Chamberlain won a couple of titles, one in Philly, one in LA, four time MVP ten times, all the time NBA First Team. Shack was fourteen times All NBA, four NBA Championships. One MVP agreed, makes no sense. Ridiculous, whether you liked him or not, because I remember talking with people way back in the day while he's playing, and they're like, he's that big, he should dominate inside when you're seven one to three in a quarter, Yeah, you should dominate. His MVP season.
Forget about the field goal percentages. You're so close to the hoop, right, But his MVP season he averaged twenty nine point seven will you allow me to round it up to thirty? Thank you? And thirteen and a half rebounds. He finished second in the MVP race back in nineteen ninety five. David Robinson was MVP that year. His loan MVP. You could accept that couldn't you? Yeah, he finished fourth one year Achem Elijah Won was MVP.
Robinson finished ahead of Shaquille two that year. Could you accept it with Elijah Wan's loan MVP that year? Absolutely? Look at Elijahan's numbers and I think Elijau Won's a really underrated player. Loved watching him play because everybody brings up when Shaquille O'Neal lost the MVP race to Steve Nash. So I've already told you he's lost one to Robinson, He's lost one to Elijah one, lost one to Alan Iverson, finished third that year to Allan Iverson, lost
one to Tim Duncan. Jason Kidd finished ahead of him one year or that same year. But it's the two thousand and five where everyone's like, how is that possible? How do you lose to Steve Nash who averaged fifteen and a half points, averaged eleven and a half assists, shot the ball. Well, Phoenix had a good year. I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying people to a certain extent could understand there are other players he finished
behind than just Steve Nash in his career. It's hard to fathom. That he only had one MVP. It's hard to fathom that certain other players Nikola Jokic, for example, has compared to checks one. But it's true.
But I was watching this and I'm thinking, Okay, you know, Shaquille and Neale just mentioned Keim Elijuan had a couple of titles and MVP All NBA First Team twelve times, Moses Malone All NBA eight times, three MVPs and a championship, the Championship with Philadelphia, Robinson two titles with the Spurs and MVP and ten Not that you had to watch those players, because I didn't really see Bill Russell and Will Chamberlain in his prime play. Those guys.
I mean, is Nicole Yokitchen in that category? Those guys are legends. Those are legendary centers, man, And if you never had a chance to watch any of those guys play, it's really too bad, because they were it was beautiful to watch. I have Dull Jabbar. It's not that I'm a huge fan. I just really appreciate he is. He was really enjoyable to watch. He was very graceful, like Keim Elijahan was incredibly athletic.
Anyway, congratulations to Nikola Jokic, it is not. It was a little bit of a surprise to me, not super surprising, and look, you're in the running. How surprising can you be? But yeah, really really impressive season for him, even though his team's down to Minnesota. NHL Florida blows out Boston six to one. Bruins allowed twelve goals total in the first round series against Toronto and that win seven games. They allowed six in Game two. Boston won Game one five to one. Florida wins Game two six
to one. But remember it's a little misleading. In the first game, despite losing five to one, Florida still had thirty nine shots. This one was kind of a blowout, and the fights in the third were super intense. How much of that was Boston making a quote unquote statement for game three when it goes to Boston because that game was in Miami last night. How much of that is just that, I don't know. Good for them, stand your ground, I'm okay with that, But Florida made sure they fought
back. Thirteen penalties on the night for Boston, ten penalties on the night for Florida. Plenty of fighting taking place, including Brandon mont tour and Brad Marshan and David Pasternak and Matthew Kachuk In the third Monteur Scores had to go into his says, turns and basically gets in Marshan's face and he wasn't going to take any of that. That was more of a wrestling match than it
was a fight. Heavy punches thrown in the Kachuk and Pastrnak, who you would not have thought would be willing to drop the gloves, but he did because I mean, those are two elite offensive players. Ka Chuck's more of a tough guy. It's hard not to like him. But there was plenty of spillover. Some undisciplined, sure, but there were plenty of fisticuffs taking place, not just in the third either early on. Here's what the coach
had to say about it. I think it's a good thing. The two elite off defensive players and the Chuck is one hundred point guy all day long. Master Knacks just this brilliant player. But it's playoffs and they each have their team, right, They got their brothers in the room, gets a little spicy out there and they want to go. I think it was awesome. Well, I don't think there's gonna be any spill over into the next
game. You know, these are two teams that are rivals, you know with you know, we played each other last year, playing each other this year, and it's going to be a series. And what I'm really proud of I'm proud of Pasta because there's so many guys out there pushing after whistle when the linesmen are there, Boston could chuck. They just went out there and fought. That's what you like. You like your hockey players to be
competitors. I love that man. That was Paul mal Reice the first part of the cut, and then Jim Montgomery, the head coach of Boston the second. It's funny, I was thinking the exact same thing sometimes the beat of the playoffs, if you don't have your team in there, there's no dog in the fight, quote unquote. You can watch it with an open mind and you can just enjoy it. I think eventually everybody has there's there's some type of lean one way or the other. But the beauty of that
last night is I'm right there with Jim Montgomery. Too many guys, too many times you see guys chirping a little bit and they're waiting for the linesmen to come in. Those guys who weren't waiting for anybody. They wanted to go after one another. They wanted to make a statement. They wanted to show their teammates. This is why I wear the A as an assistant captain. It was awesome. It's what I love about hockey. They take care of their business on the ice, not words, and then they move on
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Xes and Bros. Throughout the great state of Michigan Monday through Friday from six until nine, the Meyer hotlines open for you eight six, six, eight three, eighty eight to forty three. You could text Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. My good friend Dennis Fithian will be in this chair tomorrow. Got to wait, got to head out to a destination wedding. Oh those things? What is it? What is it today? With I mean, there's a lot of young people who they just they love the destination wedding.
You got to go someplace else? Aren't you from here? Yes? Is she from here? Yes? But where we go? Oh? Everybody. Pretty much everybody who's going to the wedding is from here. But you're gonna go someplace else, all right, Thanks a lot anyway, that's where we're headed. Those are the things that happened. By the way, The one thing I did not get to is the uh the other NHL score from last night, and that's Vancouver coming from three goals down to beat Edmitt in five
to four. They scored three goals in five and a half minutes. Connor Garland had the game winner. You know, I started watching this game, couldn't stay for the whole thing. Started watching this game. I'm thinking thinking, man, Edmonton is skating all over Vancouver and then boom they come back. What happened the other day against Colorado. Colorado comes from the Greek of three goals down and beats Dallas. You never know, it keeps you in
there, keeps you hanging on there, don't you think? I've read this the other day and it at some point I'm going to let it go. When it is, I don't know, but I've got to let it go. Think about it. The nineteen ninety two Olympic men's basketball team nineteen ninety two, some of you weren't even born that it's thirty two years ago, right, Why does it bother me still? I don't know, man, It just there's something in me that has a hard time letting this one to
go. And it's brought up pretty regularly. Isaiah Thomas was left off that team. It's known as the Dream Team. I'm sure you know who was on that team, you know, with Magic Johnson and Larry Byrd and David Robinson, John Paxston and Carl Malone and Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan, blah blah blah, Scottie Pippen, go on and on that, Patrick Ewing, Christian Layner. Ah. But anyway, Isaiah Thomas was left off that team.
Charles Barkley appeared on a podcast of Shannon Sharp's the other day and Sharp asked him. Barkley basically said, it's because Michael Jordan didn't want him on the team. He was left Isaiah Thomas left off the team because Michael Jordan didn't want to play with him. And he also admits that Isaiah Thomas was the best little man of all time. He has said that in a different interview. Steph Curry's right there, but he said, if I had, if I had to win one game with a little guy, one of the
younger, smaller guys in the league, it'd be Isaiah Thomas. Cut your heart out, mad respect for his ability and his fight to win. Now, we would remind you it doesn't make him a great human being. A lot of people didn't trust him. I get it. We're talking about your ability to play the game of basketball, and he was one of the best players in the world at the time, but Michael Jordan ruled the roost. I've said this a nauseam, so I apologize if I'm We've heard it before.
Sure, I'm pissed off at Michael Jordan for that. I'm just as pissed off Chuck Daily and Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson was supposed to be his buddy, Chuck Daily was his coach, and neither one of them had the guts to say anything. But we do get now. Do I think Michael Jordan owes him a public apology like Isiah Thomas has asked for? No? But I truly believe and I've said it forever, back in the time I was working Detroit radio in nineteen ninety two, and yes, I said the
same thing. Jordan kept him off. What I didn't know until years later is that Dali and Johnson went along with it just as troubling. I'd like to see somebody interview Magic Johnson and say, if you were supposed to be his best friend or one of his best friends, guys med at center Cordon back in nineteen eighty eight, in nineteen eighty nine, and you kissed each other on the cheek, and you know, you called each other, you know, hung out with one another. Why didn't you do something about it?
Why is it always Michael Jordan who's the bad guy in the situation, and nobody else who actually stood up and said, you know what, he's one of the best players in the world. He should be on this team. Am I being hypocritical because I think there is something to team chemistry? Maybe I'll admit that one hundred percent because he was a Piston, because he
was representing my team, my state, my city. Yes, if it were somebody else, if it were Scottie Pippen, and I said, hey, man, players got to trust one another, Players have to appreciate one another, players have to believe in that guy. There's something to harmony, There's something to chemistry. Okay, I'll open myself up. Absolutely. I could be seen as being a hypocrite here. I didn't think Scottie Pippen was in that category with Isaiah Thomas. But if you wanted to use that example,
you would win the argument. Charles Barkley is the latest to confirm what we have all felt for a while. The bothersome thing about it is that nobody ever asked Magic Johnson about that, or Jordan himself. And now so much time has elapsed thirty two years, who really cares? Meyer? Hotline eight sixty six eight three, eight forty eight forty three. Let's go to the lines, Ben, who's waiting for us? Yeah, we got Jake and Grand Rapids. Hi Jake, Good morning to you. How are you?
I'm very well, long time listener of you listen to when you were back with Michigan basketball. Just had a couple of thoughts on what coach Montgomery said about the Pasta and kit Chuck fight. Yeah. I think it's kind of just kind of bogus that he said it's not going to bleed over into
Game three. You know, this is playoff hockey, Like that's like saying that Lemieux and McCarty back in the late nineties, you know when they had their scuffles that they just didn't know when they were on the ice together, Like k Chuck's that guy. He's going to be out there a thorn in the side of Pasta and Marshaan. He's going to be looking for those guys
when they're on the ice together. I think it's, you know, complete bogus for two rival teams like that, like, oh, it's not going to bleed over, We're just going to go on to the next game, get it out of the way. I think it's the complete opposite. I think, especially since uh Ko Chuck gave him the two pretty good shots to the head when Pasta is already on the ground, I think, you know, it's going to put something in the back of Pasta's mind always looking out
to make sure Kit Chuck's not on the ice. Then, Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all. I didn't say it wouldn't bleed over, Jim Montgomery, and that was the sound bite that he played. Yeah, I believe. I believe it a bleed over. I don't know what. I absolutely I think it will bleed over. Yeah, I think so. I think, Look, it's Paul Maurice said it during that SoundBite. These are two they've become rivals now because of a playoff series a year ago and
now this year. And thanks for the phone call. Sorry, we're up against the break. Appreciate the call and great insight. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, obviously a huge hockey fan. You and I are both watching it last night. I believe it. Now. Will it be in the first period right away at first shift? Probably not, but yeah, I mean I think it was important for Pastronach to do that because he's not seen as a fighter, and I think that says something to his team. I
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twenty years older in Michigan. Your player all right back with you on Exus and Bros. Throughout the Great State of Michigan. I hate cutting people short, but I can't expect them to wait through a commercial break. It was such a that would have been a good conversation. And the hockey stuff last night. Look, I'm in total agreement with Scott who had called in just part of the break. He's dead on there. I do believe there is carry over. They said it during the broadcast. I forget which one,
but I'm pretty sure it was during the Boston Florida game. Hockey players have long memories. It was phrased by saying they don't have short ones. They have long memories. They know what's going on. So Scott, really appreciate that phone call. Love the passion. You can hear it in your voice. Call anytime. Really enjoyed that brief conversation. Wish it could go a little bit longer, speaking of hockey real quick. And then we're going to
get to something related to the Lions and football. I had mentioned yesterday the finalists for the Heart Trophy Nathan McKinnon Colorado, who I think is going to win. Of course, I thought Donjits would win MVP in the NBA, and I was wrong. Connor McDavid and Nikita Kucheroff of Tampa. Kucharovs already won it twice. McDavid's won it three times. McKinnon has not won it yet. He's had an unbelievable year. Colorado has had a really good year.
I think he's going to win it, but it wouldn't necessarily surprise me if Kutcherov wins it either. I lamented that Austin Matthews is not a finalist. He scored sixty nine goals. He's not a finalist. What's interesting is the NHL Players Association has named their three finals for the Ted Lindsay Award. Matthews is on that it's a player year. Players in the NHL vote for this going stut standing player in the NHL. What means more that or writers
voting? What do you think would be more prestigious? You're voted amongst your peers. I would guess that means a little bit more to you. And Matthews has won that before. Kucharoff has won it as well. Here are the three Matthews, McKinnon. Kucheroff as good as Nathan McKinnon is, and he's one of the greatest players in the world. To say he's a top five player in the world, Nathan McKinnon, he's never won it, he's never won the Heart, and he's never won the Ted Lindsay Matthews to win
this, he's not even up for the Heart. And I bet you, I'll bet you players look at that as a huge slight. It's hard to narrow it down to three guys. How good the NHL is. But I think what's gonna happen is he's gonna He's gonna win the Ted Lindsay Award. Sixty nine goals, one hundred and seven points, tenth player in NHL history to have six or more hat tricks in a season. McKinnon wins the Heart, Matthews wins the Ted Lindsay. Just my opinion could be off base there,
but I'm gonna call that shot. I don't want to be you know the guy on MLB network who said, watch, we're gonna have no hit alert and then like first batter in guy hits a home run. I don't want to do I don't want to be that I don't want to be that guy and have that type of reputation. I'm just giving you my thoughts. Okay, all right, NFL. When the Lions were able to move up and draft Terry on Arnold out of Alabama, many people were a little surprised.
They were surprised because they didn't think he would be there. I think they might be a little surprised that the Lions would give up a third to get to him, probably more surprised that they drafted Brakestraw on the second. But whatever. Here's the question that many people wondered. What had to happen in order for him to be there. One of the things that had to
happen was that the Raiders had to pass on him. The Raiders, choosing thirteenth, selected brock Bowers, the tight end out of Georgia, who is a difference maker. He's going to help at O'Connell or who's ever under under center for the Raiders. Terry on Arnold was on a podcast recently, and here's what he had to say on what the Raiders told him on why he would eventually be available for the Lions. At twenty four and the Lions picked
you. For you to get that moment on the stage with those Detroit fans was incredible to watch. I can only imagine how great it was for you. Amazing. I mean, all my team, they like Terry On would be the one to get drafted. What a draft is? Yeah, I mean how much conversation did you have with Brad Holmes and with Dan Campbell and with that organization. I went on to visit there. Obviously they told me, they said, you're one of those guys who had to trade at the
gate, but our past may cross. We don't think we'll be able to get you. And my agent, Nicole Shard a very great job, but just she actually texted them that following morning and said, hey, you know it's a heavy old line receiver, quarterback, heavy, y'all pens some draft
class man, y'all, y'all might have a chance. And then just from going back and talking to him, they they knew that the Raiders it pos They took me, and actually the Raiders coach they called me after the drift they were like, you know, we actually had a coin toss between you and brought Bowers and man it on him. I was like, oh wow. And then after the Raiders passed, they said, okay, we got to get up there before Jacksonville. So actually, Brad was they were trying
to trade all the way up the fifteen sixteen to get them. So it's just one of those things where you go where you wanted and that right there, man, that fit. And as far as how the fans are, schemes that they run, and just even being around guys like James Jamir especially Brian like, man, it was a dream come true for me. So Terry on Arnold, they're on the Next Round Pot podcast saying that the Raiders told him that it actually had a coin toss between him and Bowers and it
landed on him. So he was like, oh wow. Now the Raiders would not confirm that. Of course they're not going to admit to that. Do you think that's a figure of speech? A common phrase used. It was a coin flip between you two guys and we went with Bowers or in you laws or do you think they truly flipped a coin? Now? Immediately my thought was, wait a minute. The general manager, Champ Kelly, was asked about this, according to ESPN, and he said he can't confirm
that at all. Do you think there's not much clarification there? But do you think the Raiders are going on a coin flip? Hell no, that's got to be a figure of speech. And the reason he's not going to confirm it is because of what he wants to make sure brock Bauers feels good about himself as a Raider. He's not going to say we determine our draft picks when we have two guys rated highly based on a coin flip. Brock Bauers your heads, Terry on Arnold your tails. No, that's not how
it works. There's no way that's what they did. This is not Matt Millen running the front office. Now. Was I surprised? Yeah, I was a little surprised because they used a second round pick a year ago on Michael Mayer. He's not necessarily viewed as the a pure tight end. He's an offensive weapon. He's a really good pass catcher. He's a big, huge body, no doubt at it. But Bowers does everything. It's a good blocker, you can flex him. He's a mismatch of a cover.
So I was slightly surprised that Bowers landed there. But yeah, it's a coin flip. I think it's just a phrase. That's what I mean, because that's what everybody was saying. I mean, they're they're freaking out about this. They're going, oh my gosh, the Raiders. You know, they're not using a coin flip to say, Okay, this is how it works. Sorry, it's a figure of speech. CBS Sports came out with a recent article and I immediately thought disrespect. Sometimes I think that word is
overused in sports, but I immediately thought disrespect. They ranked the quarterbacks in the NFL. Ben. If I asked you to name the top three quarterbacks in the NFL, who would you say? Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, and probably Josh Allen Good Okay, I would say Patrick Mahomes one. I'd probably say Josh Allen two and Joe Burrow three. Lamar Jackson, yeah, yeah, probably up there. Brock Perty doesn't get much love, does he
from people. They think he's a system quarterback. They think he manages the game two years too, OBFC title games, a super Bowl. I don't know what the guy's got to do. Anyway, CBS ranks them this way, and you'll understand my point when it comes to the disrespect in a moment. Patrick Mahomes won. Brock Pirty two, Josh Allen three, Joe Burrow four, CJ. Stroud five, Lamar Jackson six. Lamar Jackson wins the MVP for the second time in his career, and he's behind a guy who
is one year deep into his NFL career? What Jalen Hurts seven? Dak Prescott eight, Justin Herbert nine, Jordan Love ten. If I'm Justin Herbert, If I'm Jalen Hurts, you got CJ. Stroud ahead of me. Doesn't a guy have to prove a little bit more than one year? Maybe not? Where do you think they rank Jared Goff? Where does Jared Goff stand amongst stars quarterbacks in the NFL? They only ranked thirty two. Where do you think Jared Goff lies? Jared Goff is ranked thirteenth? Here's what
they write. Perhaps no signal caller has done more to restore respect in recent years, rewriting his reputation as a gutsy figurehead for the Lions return to relevance. Now comes another chance to prove himself. Fresh off a bid for a Super Bowl appearance that painfully fell short. Now keep in mind. This is a guy who's already led one team to a Super Bowl rams and has turned around or helped turn around, because it's not all him helped turn around a
failing franchise into an NFC contender. He's ranked thirteenth. Besides the ten ahead of him, Aaron Rodgers to a tongue of Aloa are ahead of him as well. If you don't believe that he's thirteenth, if you believe he should be higher. The reason I bring up the other names is who should he be in front of? And then it lends this question, is he a
top ten quarterback? By the way, Matthew Stafford, I'm sure some of you are wondering they got him ranked sixteenth behind Kirk Cousins and Trevor Lawrence. Maybe that tells you something about the poll or the rankings. Let's go to the phone lines, the Meyer hotline eight sixty six eight three, eight forty eight forty three. Who do we got next? Ben? We had David Hudsonville, Hi, Dave, how are you this morning? Good morning? Well, chef, how are you doing? Man? Good good? Thanks
for the call. You know, it's an interesting topic because context matters so much. Yeah, when you when you just talked about Stafford and when you talk about Cousins, and I think they're still significantly apart because of Stafford winning an md oric seeming winning a super Bowl, but we got to see him. I mean, there's not a tougher quarterback and a guy who's produced with
some real challenging situations in Stafford over the years. And I don't Detroit fans have mixed feelings, but man, I love Stafford as a rider die Lions for like, you know, fifty five years because he gave us everything he had. And if you look at Cousins stats over his career are tremendous, you know, but he's got a story based on the title. He can't win in prime time. He doesn't win in this or that. Well, if you put Kirk Cousins with you know, Shanahan and San Francisco or what
goes on. So I really do think it's almost like to me, when we think about great Tigers teams and we don't think about our number one pitcher or number two, but a guy who goes out there like maybe Dan Petrie or some of the you know, not Jack Morris or not Berlander, but those guys that are a good fit and they just do their job, you know, And that's I think the love Purdy gets. But you can't have Jordan Love in there. Jordan Low hasn't done anything, you know, well,
not of substance. So here's what I try to weigh. And I don't know the answer to this. Maybe you can help me with it. If a guy has been around, We'll use Lamar Jackson as an example. He's been around long enough and he's won two MVPs. Is he not ahead of c J. Stroud. On the other hand, if you look at a guy like Aaron Rodgers, he's ranked eleventh. A lot of that is
based on what his past reputation. Should he deserve to be at eleven because he was hurt all of last year but has a resume that is Hall of Fame worthy. You know that you nailed it right there, because you can be prisoner of the moment with CJ. Stroud and you can also say, oh my gosh, we have such great history with Aaron Rodgers. It's somewhere in between, you know what I mean, Because at the end of the day, you know CJ. Strout had a great season, But prove it
over time, like Rogers has or like Stafford has or whatever. Joe Burrow is that a couple of good, really good seasons, but at the end of the day create a body of work. You know. It's like in Major League Baseball they talk about when you get somebody who's been playing for seven eight years, you pretty much know their stats and what they're going to be
hitting the ball. They know that Darry Sheffield is going to hit this many home runs or Miguel's going to do this or that until they hit that decline age. I think it's the same as true as quarterbacks, but we just get too fascinated with quarterbacks one hundred percent. I mean it's like you wrote it and I signed my name to it. That's perfectly said. Thanks for the phone call. Great stuff, man, I mean dead on there. We are so fascinated with quarterbacks, There's no doubt about that. But there's
a reason for it. And the reason is is because they're touching the football every single play, and we truly believe that they are difference maker. It's the most goalie. Those two positions are the most important positions in all of
sports. Point Guards used to be really important. Now you've got point forwards, you got centers stepping out, hitting threes not so much right, Sure, a starting pitcher is really important, but there are also as you just mentioned, you got that number two guy, that number three guy who can help you in a lot of places, certain rotations. Number four. I mean, look at Philadelphia, Look a look at the Phillies. You take Zach Wheeler. Yeah, is he a one or is he a two?
Either way, they got a Phillies got a hell of a one to two punch. Aaron Nola, which one you want to determine is the two? In quarterback or in football? You've got to have the quarterback, have to you got to have the trigger. That's why we're enamored with it. But are we living in the moment? That's so well said. Are we living in the moment? The moment? At eight thirty five is when we talk to Jason Beck of MLB dot Com. He joins us on Excess and Bros.
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