Get some facts and come back and Seebee. Get some facts and come back and Seebee. Don't throw out salaries or other things. Get some facts and come back and Seebee. You can't handle the true now told our players you need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats in here looking in the mirror. But I look good. I got my extra bands on, I got my other shoes. Be a doll. We don't need no meals, We don't need no cats. We need more dogs.
Were not a detain Why you're not that detained? We weren't good. There's no sense of asking me things about the game. I'm telling you. We laid an egg, So I'm not gonna break it down for you. He sucks. He sucked, but he laid an egg. That's all I have to say. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna break it down for you. Nothing went well for us. It's on us. We have to figure it out every way. Ehown it sure is, And it's the
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well if you missed it. The Tigers split two with the Pirates yesterday day. The opener went to Terrek School in Detroit and ain't nothing blow out. Matt Vierling's three run homer and four RBIs the difference. Schooble toss seven scoreless innings, allowing just three hits, striking out eight. He improved to seven and one on the ear seth Lugo of Kansas City is better so far, has put together a better season, I should say, because he's nine to
one with a one point seven to ninety RA. After Kansas City won again yesterday they beat Minnesota Bobby Witt junior Salvador Perez. I saw something on social media where people were kind of taking their shots at Salvador Perez. I thought to myself, Look, social media is the thing now. I totally understand where you know, it's where so many people get their news. It's where so many people get their information. Whether it's reliable or not, I'm not
so sure. It's also just a way to just spew despise, discuss meanness, sad commentary, personal purgatory if you will, and people take a chance at Salvador Perez. Look, I don't care whether or not you believe the guy who's thirty four. Oh he's probably older than I don't. Who care? The dude is good? Ask yourself this, thirty four or older? Would you take a guy who's betting three twenty five, having the three eighty six OBP and a slug of five thirty seven, absolutely hits another homer yesterday,
He's got ten, he goes two for four. He's thirty four and Betton second in the lineup for a team. There's thirty five and twenty two on the year for a team that is arguably the biggest surprise in baseball, and six just two and a half out thirteen games over five hundred. A team that was last year, this Kansas City team, even though it had Bobby Witt junior, Vinnie Fascatino, Salvador Perez, they were still minus one eighty three in the run differential. I use that number a lot. It's
important the run differential. This year, Kansas City is a plus eighty one. Nobody in the division is better. Nobody in the American League Central Division is better. In fact, only one team in the American League is better in that category. That's the New York Yankees. Baltimore's not better, Cleveland's not better. Texas isn't better. Very strange, Texas is just a plus one in run differentially. The team that leads the division, the AL West,
is a minus Seattle. That's a hell of an accomplishment. Anyway. I saw a lot of that on social media, and I thought that's ridiculous. First of all, Salvopro is a really good dude. Second of all, he's a hell of a player. And third, maybe you're just angry just for the sake of being I ain't angry. I don't know, but I'd take him on my team. He's got a howitzer, handles the staff real well, and produces offensively. Folks, there's not that many catchers in
baseball who are the total package. You know what I mean? You want a guy? Look, we all gravitate back to the best of our childhood or the best in our favorite team's history. Is that fair enough? Okay? So who's the best the Tigers have ever had? If you're old enough, you remember Bill Freehan. If you're old enough, you remember Lance Parrish. I suppose Ivon Pudge Rodriguez is in there too. I see him more as a Ranger. That's just me. Everybody looks for a Salvador Perez,
an Adlie Rushman, Will Smith at jt Rilla Muto. I think jonah Heim's a pretty good player for Texas. He's not having a great offensive year so far. He was originally committed to Michigan State, by the way, but he was drafted and signed with the Rangers. I think those three guys, those four guys Perez who do, I say, Perez, Rushman Smith, really Muto? For sure? Those four throw in throw in him for me if you don't mind five guys who can do it offensively and defensively. It's
the hardest position in the in the game catcher. You don't have that many great players who can do both. Those are it. So I'd take him every single day, and I would guess you would too. Game two went to Pittsburgh, Paul Skeens celebrating his twenty second birthday. He struck out nine in six innings. Andrew McCutchen leaves the yard a home run. He's homered in every Paul Scheme start. Matt Verling homered again for Detroit, so he's
homered in three of four. What was interesting, I thought, there is that kider munter when anytime in baseball, if you've got a doubleheader, you've got a twenty six man roster. We know that, right. Okay, they expanded that a few years ago. They expanded to twenty six man rather than twenty five man roster. You have twenty six men, you have thirteen bullpen or thirteen pitchers, thirteen position players when you have a double header.
So it's not to have quote unquote wear and tear on people. You can add a twenty seventh player, so you're going to add a pitcher, now, why would you so? For example, Jack Flaherty was originally supposed to start one game of the doubleheader. The way the series was set up, it was going to be Scoobal and Flarty against Jones and Schemes. Then the rainout a couple of days ago, forcing a double header yesterday. Why not
start Flaarity like you originally thought instead of starting him today against Boston. My guess is, because you get a twenty seventh man in a double header, why not take advantage of it? So use a pitcher there, save Flarerty, who's pitching Game one of the four game series against Boston tonight. What was interesting to me is that Kaider Montero is the one who was called up. He was called up from Toledo. He made his major league debut.
You may ask, why is that surprises ship? What surprises me because they didn't call it Matt Manning. I would have guessed it would have been Manning who would have come up like he had been all season long. His issue is in his five starts. The era is close to five. Aj Hinch explained that, and we'll get into what Scott Harris had to say about Javey or Bias when we come back after this ten After the hour on Axis and
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Unfortunately, it's one of those sports where you got to play a lot. Welcome back x'es and bros. By the way, this was making the rounds on social media. Did anyone see what took place in Washington Haawk County? I think it was mid May. I think it was a couple of weeks ago. A dude is supposed to be on a zoom for getting his license reinstated. His lawyer is at the courtroom talking before the judge, and the judge says, has he joined us yet? And she said, he's about
to your honor, and he jumps on zoom. The driver or the person who's in trouble with the law and says, I'm on my way to the doctor. I'm just pulling in right now. And he's driving, and the judge says, wait a minute, you're driving. In other words, you're driving with a suspended license. And he's trying to get his license back. And what does he do. He shows up to the virtual court hearing while driving. You wish you could be making this stuff up. You would think
it's almost a gaff right, it's just a joke. It's not. There's video and audio to support it. Not to mention the reaction of the judge and the reaction of the man who now loses his license or the chance to regain his license for a while. It's classic stuff. Man. You think to yourself, how the hell can somebody think this is a good idea? Honey, don't you have a zoom call to try and get your license back today? Yeah, I'll do it while I'm driving to the doctor's office.
But doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose? Honey, aren't you a little word? Well, I'll keep the camera off. I don't know what he was thinking. He's not thinking at all. We think there are certain people in life who feel like they are are privileged because of what they do for a living or how much money they make. That's not always the case.
Sometimes there are people who feel like they just can't touch they can't be touched, and even though even though they have a hearing, a chance to get their license back, in all likelihood, it sure seemed like he was going to get his license back until the camera on the dashboard of the car while he's driving, clicks on. Oops, I think I messed up there. It's awesome. We were talking just before the break about Matt Manning was the
guy who was not called up as the twenty seventh man. It was Caudra Montero, who is viewed as a decent prospect in the Tiger system. Manning has struggled. I can't help but wonder I remember it was it twenty nineteen, seen Mies and Manning and Schooble all in camp and hearing so many different people try to guess who they think would be the best of the bunch.
There was no consensus in Lakeland with all these people baseball people around. If you would say Schooble, if you would say Mice, if you would say Manning, that's how close the three were. This was going to be what this team was built on. These three hard throwing two of them high draft picks, exceptional talents, young talents. And don't take this the wrong way. I'm not saying you give up on Matt Manning, but I would say this, he is twenty six years old. Not that it's old, because
it's not. But from a major league standpoint, the clock is ticking. He's only made fifty starts in his major league career and he's twenty six. He was a hell of an athlete. He was gonna go play basketball at Loyola Marrimount. Tigers signed him ninth overall pick, first round, and it just hasn't clicked. What's the most wins you think he's had in his major league career? Four? That is. I hate the word bust, not fair. Kid works hard, which is no excuse. Everybody works hard,
man, I mean, at least they're supposed to. Most people are working hard to get to where they want to get to at that level, is what I'm saying. That's one of my favorite things when we interview players families. You know, how do you feel in this moment? I'm so proud of him because he's worked so hard. Yes, guess what, there are other people work hard too. It doesn't mean that you can't be outworked, just means you do work hard. But Matt Manning, it's just not clicking
for him. He's made five starts. Who's that on. There's a combination of people him, Coaches, people have got to be fixing him. People got to got to be able to help him along. He had options, so it's not a huge deal. But there's going to be a point in time, and it's coming quicker than he may think where they have to decide
on what to do. That's not the case for hobby or Bias. We talked yesterday about Scott Harris's interview on MLB Network with Brian Kenny about the spending of this team, and it lasted a good hour and a half, almost two hours. What we didn't get to was what he said about hobby or Bias. Because so many people have suggested eat the contract and move on. I've repeatedly said it's seventy three million dollars. That is a massive amount of
money to just chew up and burp out. Scott Harris said, that's not a question for right now. Right now, we're focused on trying to get the most out of him. Okay, I get that, and that's what you should be doing. Here's the quote that bothers me a little bit. On the offensive side of the ball. Harris said, he's going through adjustments right now. Do you know how many times we've heard about hobby or Bias in Detroit making adjustments And let's get it straight. Every player is making adjustments.
It's constant. It's one of the beauties. But also the very difficult parts about baseball is how many adjustments you do have to make. But Javier Bias has been here for three years. Every single year, every year they have said he's making some offensive adjustments leg kick, stance, bat positioning, head, you name it. They constantly talk about that, just like Matt Manning is going to come a point in time where you just go, what more can we do? Think about where he hits in the order. He's
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The Tigers hoodies are on full display. Check it out today at Meyer Purty six after the hour Welcome Back. We talked a lot about the Lions earlier today. If you missed any of it, we'll put it on the podcast. Ben sends it out on a daily basis. Pro Football Focus ranking Detroit's top three players and ranking their starting unit. They have them down as number six in the NFL. We disagree with that, but that's what their
numbers would tell you. San Francisco, Kansas City, Philadelphia ahead of them are the top three anyway, and their top three players according to their Pro Football Focus Amon Ross, Saint Brown, Aiden Hutchinson, Penney Seol not in any particular order, just those three players. Mine were Sewell, Brown, and Ragnow with Hutchinson and Golf being right there. We were also talking about
the Tigers. Matt Manning didn't get the starts in Game two as Kyder Montero yesterday, as Detroit begins a four game series in Boston and a seven game road trip overall, and then we were able to get to a little bit about the Javey or Bios comments made by President Scott Harris the other day on MLB Network, Harris continuing to say that, well, Bias is going through
some adjustments. Offensively. They have said that in each of his three years here, not that Harris has said it in each of the three years because he hasn't been but he said he's on the other side of thirty right now. Doesn't make him old. Still has that fast twitch, still has that athleticism. We have to find a way to help him make some adjustments to get back to barreling balls and punishing mistakes like he did in a Cubs uniform. That's great. Here is part of the issue. Part of the issue
is in the Cubs uniform. And he was good in twenty eighteen. In twenty nineteen, that's a ways back, man. How come we haven't been able to notice why he hasn't gotten back to that form. What's preventing him? That's the question, that's the real question. What's preventing him from getting
to that form? What is he doing now that he didn't do four or five years ago, because that's what his best season was twenty eighteen, even if you had a hoavier bias of twenty nineteen, you'd absolutely take it to eighty one twenty nine bombs, eighty five stakes, no question. Remember they signed him after twenty twenty one, when he led the league in strikeouts with one hundred and eighty four. Oh, he also had thirty one homers.
He also had eighty seven runs driven in. They would argue, that's just three years gone by. He is, he can get back to that. But they're also the people who just told you he's thirty years old, which is an old but dot dot dot Meyer Hotline eighty six six eight three eight forty eight forty three. You could text us. He text Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. I know, we got a text. What's what's with the text? Yeah, it says Manning is not a starter. He can
be and Andrew Miller if the right transfigures that out. Manning stalls after the second time through a lineup, m M. Yeah, I don't know. I would have to look up that's that's insightful. I would have to look up how many times he's actually had the chance to get through second time in the lineup. I wouldn't guess it's very often. You're saying he's a bullpen guy. Okay, I could see that. Guys have made that, plenty of guys that made that transition. I don't think that is a bad thought
at all. Here's here's the only thing I would say to that is he doesn't throw so hard. Okay, I mean he's ninety two ninety three. I'm not saying I could stand in there against it. I'm just saying he's ninety two ninety three. He doesn't throw so hard that it makes you go. He's absolutely a closer. My guess is the Texter, it's well thought out. The Texter is thinking he's more of an Alex Fayato type player.
Right. Remember, Fayato was a starter. Fayeto was the most outstanding player in the World Series when he led Florida to the World Series Championship, College World Series Championship. And now he's a middle reliever. That can have a negative connotation associated with a canon you're a middle reliever. In other words, hey, you're not good enough to be a closer and you're not good enough to be a starter. I don't think it shouldn't be negative. We are
important piece to the team. I think the Texter's right. I mean, I think that's worth a shot. Now it does beg this question whose place do you take? And I don't think me nor the Texter are suggesting that you do anything right now, per se. But if we know he's not a starter, or we don't think he is, so he's not gonna take Jack Flaherty's place, He's not taking Kent Tomata's place, He's not taking Casey mice Rhee so Olsen, Trek Scouobel right, not taking any other places.
You got to have some lefties, at least that's what some people believe. I don't think that should be the way it is at all in baseball. When the last time the Astros won the World Series, they didn't have one lefty out of their bullpen, not one. They're alrighty's. Don't look at righty lefty and then righty lefty matchup. People complain about me being old school. That is old school thinking. Can you get the reverse splits? Can a righty get a lefty out? Can a lefty get a righty out?
See, that's what makes a guy like Andrew Chaffin rather attractive because of the reverse splits. The same thing with Tyler Holton or a Jason Foley. So then but it does beg this question, what would be who would be your middle relief guys? So, if it's Fiato right now, if it's Will Vest, it's Joey Wentz, it's Tyler Holton, it's Bowl Brisky. Can Manning be the replacement to one of those guys? Andrew Chaffin, I'm sure it's about what you throw, where you throw it, and in what count
you can throw it. And that's part of the problem for Matt Manning right now. I don't even think it's as much as him whether he's a starter or not. I think the question now is is he a major leaguer? Folks. That's why when you talk about draft picks, and I get it, we're you and I. We don't watch enough college baseball or high school baseball to recognize whether a guy like Gunner Henderson who came from high school is worth a second round pick, or a Kevin McGonagall who's worth a second round
pick, or a Max Clark is worth a first round pick. Don't never watched Max Clark in Indiana, didn't watch him with Team USA or Kevin McGonagall with Team USA or Gunner Henderson. You may have watched Adlee Rushman. You may have watched Spencer Torkulsen. You may have watched Casey meies Er, Paul Skens or Alex Bragman, or guys who did go to college had high level
of success. Maybe watched him one or two. I don't know, but it's hard to judge that Manning coming out of high school takes a little more time, so on and so forth than what do you have not sure first round pick. That's why you draft as many pitchers oftentimes as you can. Not saying you take them over position players. I'm just saying that's why there's a lot of pitchers chosen because more oftentimes than not guys, it's like quarterback
guys are not going to make it. You and I both know going into this coming football season this will probably be This would be way too way too early right to judge the rookie quarterback class, But you and I would both agree that you don't expect all of them to make it right. You don't think that Caleb Williams, Jade and Daniels, JJ McCarthy, Drake May, Michael Pennix and Bo Nicks are all going to be successful, do you.
From nineteen ninety three through twenty twenty two, the extension rate for the first quarterback drafted was fifty seven percent. The second quarterback drafted, they got their extension thirty five percent of the time, the third quarterback drafted thirty one percent, the fourth drafted fourteen percent, and so on. Now that doesn't Sometimes if you're the second quarterback drafted, you may not have been a first round
draft pick. So that's kind of unfair for this class. All I'm suggesting is that you're not gonna You're not going to connect on all of them. Paxton Lynch was a first round draft pick. He was twenty sixth overall. He's one in three. But we could go over as many failures as we do success stories at the quarterback position. JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn. It could go on and on and on, Jake Locker, Johnny Manzel, Josh
Rosen, Dwayne Haskins, Tim Tebow. I don't have to get too deep into it, ej Manuel, Brandon Whedon, but we could do that Matt Liner. Same thing with quarterbacks or the same thing with pitchers. I should say there's first round picks out there left and right. Who aren't making it? Why aren't they made it? It's not a universal reason. It just happens, and it's the reason so many teams eventually get in their draft room and say, let's get ready not to use every pick, but to use
a lot of picks on court, on pitchers. If Casey Mice one to one doesn't make it, if Matt Manning ninth overall doesn't make it, are you going to have the guys who you've used for draft picks to try and take their place. Well, Ty Madden be a guy you figure might might be a starting pitcher in this league for a long time. I mean,
it's it's kind of crazy. Trek Scoobl's ninth round pick. A lot of that had to do with where he was pitching and the fact that he had Tommy John But still, who would have guessed a guy like that would be over a guy like Casey Mize, who pitched in the SEC and was the first team All American. Trek Skoubl wasn't that at Seattle University. But that's
the way it works sometimes in baseball. Meyer Hotline eighty sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three, and the text line is sports radio to twenty one thousand, do appreciate it? The text today, they're always good ones always gets us thinking a little bit keeps us on our toes, if you
will. We mentioned a little bit about the Edmonton game last night, which was really entertaining, and the fact that the NBA will pick back up tonight Minnesota hosting Dallas, Game five of the Western Conference Finals, Athlete at three to one in the series. It wasn't long ago I read this story on
the Pistons and what they need to do and who they should draft. I saw a mock draft yesterday that they had the shooter from Tennessee Connect going third overall, which kind of bummed me out because I was really hoping I would he would be intriguing. He would be an intriguing pick for me if I were the Pistons. Yes, I know it's in need. I don't know how they're going to work these guys out. I don't know how they feel like, Okay, this is the best player we've had in here for the
workout, so things could definitely change. But Connect was he's such a good shooter. I can't help but think how much that would improve Detroit if they keep that pick. But I read this that somebody was hoping that the Pistons would use some of their salary cap freedom and use it on some free agents. Right, Okay, of course have to be the right free agent. Who would it be? Somebody suggested, and I like this guy when he was here before I did. Tobias Harris, the really good dude. He's
a really good teammate at times. He's been a really good player this year for Philadelphia. Some would argue he helped lead them to the playoffs, averaging seventeen points per game. Okay, let's keep this in perspective. Though he's going to be thirty two, he's going to make a boatload of money, and on a really good team, he's averaging seventeen a game. Would he
be able to do that with Detroit? For me, the answer would be no. Now, you could say, well, he's probably taken a lot of his shots were taken away because of some of the talent on his team, and the Chuckers Seinfeld reference Keith Hernandez would be that case would take away on this team. He doesn't fix the issues of outside shooting, but he also straps you with the contract and with the age. It's not the right time, in my opinion, to back to a guy just because he was
really good for you in his mid twenties, specifically twenty seventeen. Just my thought. Maybe we can talk more about that in the coming days and next week. Dennis Fifthy and my buddy's going to be in this chair tomorrow. We hope you can join him through the Meyer hotline via text. Our thanks to Ben, our producer, are thanks to you for your phone calls and
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