Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man, I'm forty. Go ahead, make my day every single week. I put my freaking heart and soul into this. I don't go out there and laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's funny to me. I don't want to go out there and get embarrassed on Monday night football for everybody. I think that at the beginning of a beautiful friendship. So I ain't nothing changed from yesterday. Still the same person I was yesterday, and I got the same
thing for you that I had yesterday. You know why I'm here. You play to win the day. You don't play to just play it. That's a great thing about sports. You play to win, and I don't care if you don't have any wins. You go play to win. When you start telling me it doesn't matter, per retire, get out for the mat Hey good way to start this Thursday. Welcome everyone, Bexes and bros. Monday through Friday, six until nine throughout the great state of Michigan. Matt
Shephard, that's our producer. You can call him on the Meyer Hotline eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three Tigers, who winning yesterday four to one. They win this series for the Cardinals. That is four straight series wins for Detroit. Now, we focus a lot of people focus a lot on the negative, unfortunately bothersome sometimes for me too. But that's what it's about. Baseball is about gonna win every game. You should know that.
You do know that. There are just certain times where you look back and you're like, that's the one game you let get away, first game at the doubleheader two days ago. Right, okay, But it's about winning series. If you can win series, you're in great shape. You're gonna win your divisions as simple as that. You're gonna win the more series wins you have. I'm not talking games, I'm talking about series wins. That's
the goal. You beat Cardinals in a series, you beat the Royals in a series, you beat the Rays in a series, and you feel pretty good about yourself, and you should. You also beat the Twins in a series. So the last series loss was to the Rangers. Now, the Twins have played really good ball as of late. They've won ten in a row. Detroit's seventeen wins entering May is the second most in franchise history. Only the eventual World Series champions. Nineteen eighty four World Series Tigers were better.
They were eighteen and two. What, yeah, I know, eighteen and two. Yes, that's the famous thirty five and five. Remember though, that team won its first seventeen road games. Those are a couple of things. I don't think we'll be duplicated last year to give you, to give you a perspective, last year, Detroit was ten and seventeen entering May. Now. Granted, I mean it's May second, so yesterday was May first. But I'm just you know, we haven't really been able to dive
into May just yet. So there's your situation right there. Kentamaieta got his first win as a Tiger. Four hits over six innings, pretty solid. Veerling had three RBIs. Detroit has kind of owned Saint Louis in Inner League play. I told you yesterday anytime the Tigers take on the Cardinals, or maybe it was two days ago, I think it was yesterday. I think of World Series because they've met in the World Series three times, with Saint
Louis winning too out of the three, but Detroit has owned them. They're thirty one and sixteen against Saint Louis all time in interleague play. Now they're off to New York to take on the Yankees, and looks it's a Yankees team that is has shown to be somewhat vulnerable at times eight and five at home. They've come back down to earth a little bit. They split their last ten games. They're twenty and twelve on the year. After winning Baltimore
yesterday, We'll see what happens with that. I don't know if that's the measuring stick, but I will tell you this, we're thirty one games deep. You're getting a little bit closer to recognizing who your team truly is. Detroit will have today off while the Yankees play in Baltimore. Carlos Rodan throws for the Yankees here today. Game one tomorrow against New York. Resolson against Marcus Stroman. That's the scheduled starter anyway on Saturday, So it's a good
weekend to be in the Big Apple. On Saturday, Casey Mize against Clark Schmidt, and then the wrap up has Trek Scoubel against Nestor Cortes. Then it's off to Cleveland, who is lead the division. And again it's early, but at some point and I say that quite a bit. I used to say it. We'll call in games, and I think a lot of people say that it is early. You play one hundred and sixty two games and you're only thirty one games deep. It is early. However, at
some point you and I are going to stop saying it's early. When that is is up to the individual. What did Sparky Anderson used to say? Give me forty games and then you got a better idea. Now there are exceptions to the rule, right, Houston two thousand and six, I think, struggled and then reach the World Series. But the point is you're starting to see this team and it looks pretty good at times. Right. The
pitching is definitely keeping them in it. And it's funny how a series win can kind of change your mood a little bit, because yesterday we're talking about missing an opportunity in Game one. Then you score eleven runs, you feel like, oh, okay, not bad. Don't let victories or even losses. Don't let either one cloud your judgment on what you think is happening or question certain things. It's all right, Still, eight hits isn't a ton, Okay, you got to give some credit work where credit is due.
Saint Louis played halfway decent two. How good are the card I don't know. We don't know yet. We know there are three games under five hundred, but we're just not sure. And I would guess people in Saint Louis are saying the same thing about Detroit. Now you lost to a pretty good team, are they? We don't know yet. We do think, and I think it's important here. We do think that we've got some some off
issues that need to be figured out. But it's a pretty cool moment for Matt Vierlin, who picked up his third home run of the season, a two run blast of the third off Miles Michelis, to do it against his hometown team. He was a fifth round draft pick out of Notre Dame but grew up in Missouri and Saint Louis was his hometown team. So it's a it's that's kind of a neat moment. A couple of days ago we had win Silperez had his first two home run game. That was a neat moment.
There are certain things that take place during the season you're like, oh, this is really cool. I like it. Memorable stuff in the NHL last night, Stars beat the Vegas Knights three too. It's the first time the home team has won a game in the series and they lead the series by that three to two score. Oilers over the Kings. Edmonton win the series and eliminates LA for a third straight year. Leon Drivesidel had two goals. Connor McDavid had a couple of assists eleven in the series for McDavid,
most in franchise history, which surprised me. And then Boston is in Toronto tonight. The lease Leafs get this. They have lost six straight home playoff games. The Bruins, in the meantime, have lost five consecutive series clinching games, which tells you what the Oak cliche. Go ahead, something's got to give. NBA Finals from last night, and don't forget speaking to the
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each had twenty five Boston that can play either Cleveland or Orlando. And then this is a little bit of a surprise. Maybe it's because in basketball, probably more than any other sport, home court. I don't know. It just seems like more home court advantage than home ice, more home court advantage than home field in baseball or football. That's that would be my guess without
really looking up the percentages, and sometimes those can be skewed. But Dallas a one twenty three ninety three winner over the Clippers, largest loss in playoff history for La Luka Doncic and he's been hurt with a bad right knee thirty five points, ten rebounds, twenty of his thirty five game in the second half. mAbs lead that series three games to do. You would expect them to go home and wrap things up. How you do that is similar to
you if you had a chance to watch Boston at all. Boston just dominated Miami from the very get go. Look, they're a better team than Miami, There's no question about that. Miami with a couple of big pieces, really big pieces, and Rosier and obviously Jimmy Butler. So Celtics should get that done right. But that doesn't mean it always happens. I mean, look what Milwaukee did the Indiana the other day, and they did it without Ante Tekumpo, and they did it without Lillard. So you just never know.
I think you know this, this happened yesterday. Mike Trout is out for a good part of this season. He'd be lucky to play I don't know, ninety five games or so. He's got to have surgery. We mentioned this yesterday. I think there are some people starting that they're not questioning whether or not he's a Hall of Fame player. There's no doubt he is. There's no doubt, all right, he's the best player of his generation. And if you can't give him that, one of them. The injuries
are troublesome. Thirty six games in twenty twenty one one and nineteen games the year next, eighty two games last year. Let's say he plays ninety five this year. For as durable as he was early on in his career, playing at least one hundred and fifty seven games in each of his first four seasons. He has struggled since with injuries. Why that is, I don't know. People speculate. I'm not going to go there. We do know
this in his career, he's a three hundred hitter two ninety nine. If you'll allow me to round up, he's gotten much better defensive lane wins above replacement is really big for a lot of people. And he's fifth all time amongst center fielders. You know who's better Willie Mays, the Tigers, Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, and Mickey Mantle. Mays's war, just so you know, one hundred and fifty six point two. That's nuts. It's absolutely crazy. Speakers at one thirty five point two, cob Is at one point
fifty one point four. You're not there's no way you're you're surpassing that, all right. Trout's War is about fourteen over the last few years. It's pretty damn good. I don't know if you've ever done this. Go to Baseball Reference dot com and it's easy to access, and they have a baseball
grid that you can play. I've played it quite a bit and my son and I, my oldest son and I play it quite a bit and then we kind of compare, and we played it yesterday and it's just a cool little grid where you'll say it. You'll say like the Times at the top and then on the left it will be Saint Louis. So they want you to fill in. Give you a player who's played for the Tigers and the Cardinals. Every actually, basketball does this, football does this, hockey does
it? They all have this grid, Ben, have you ever? Have you ever played that? By chance? No, it's really cool. It really tests you, okay, and what you try to do. The easy thing to do, you know, it would be like Jack Flaherty for Tigers and Cardinals. You don't want to do that because the percentage is probably very high. So you want to find somebody who has played for both. But it's a rare combination. It's not someone most people would think of. Okay.
So for example, you know, my son put in Edgar Renteria that was his for the Cardinals and the Tigers. That's a good one. Or a Cardinal or Tigers and White Sox was next. So down the left side you had Cardinals and you had White Sox and you had another category, and then you have something along the top three. All right, So for example, Tigers, White Sox, who would you put? So A lot of people immediately go, oh, chet Lemon. I put Steve Kemp, And
the percentage for Steve Kemp was point three percent. In other words, point three percent of the people got Steve Kemp. Another one was three hundred home runs for a White Sox player. I put Frank Thomas my Son, put Paul Konerko. Those are the only two of hit three hundred homers. You don't want to go look it up. That's kind of cheating, but you want to figure it out. You put a MVP, all right, who was a Tiger's MVP? They had that down left side? Was most Valuable
Player? And then the category is MVP. So I had Hank Greenberg because I figured a lot of people put Miguel Cabrera, right, I put Hank Greenberg. Anyway, the rarity I got was sixty six, which is pretty I was pretty happy with. Mike Trout will be in that discussion down the road. But one of them was a six war. Did you have a
who had a six war and an MVP season? Because six Wars was pretty good, I put Carl Yastrimsky. But just to give you an idea, what made me think of it was, you know, the wins above replacement, Trout posting about fourteen war since the start of twenty twenty. So he's not catching any of those guys. He's not catching Cob, he's not catching May's, he's not catching Speed. Probably won't catch Mickey Mantle, who's at one hundred and ten point two. And then people wonder about the homers and
the RBIs and the hits and so and so. I don't think Mike Trout's getting three thousand hits, He's sure. I don't think he's getting five hundred homers. You'll get four hundred easies. He's the three hundred and seventy eight right now. The RBIs, you know, okay, and runs those are those to me, the RBIs I think are important. But look, this is a good excuse me. This is a guy who drives in what can easily he'll easily average eighty five RBIs, ninety RBIs, but he hasn't had
more than eighty since twenty nineteen. You know, MVPs all that stuff. No doubt he's the first ballot Hall of Famer. It just here's the thing that differentiates them. Will he be can Sittered one of the greatest of all time in center field if the injuries continue, if he does, if he's not playing games, it's hard to do that. It's hard to think that now when you've got so many others. Our phone number, by the way, on the Meyer Hotline eighty sixty six, eight three eight forty eight forty
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the conversation with Ben Raven from Mlive. We'll play that about an hour from now. Okay, we'll do that because it was an informative one. So seven thirty five Ben Raven from Mlive a replay and then eight thirty five James Edwards from the Athletic. I wanted to ask people about covering games. I've read some things recently. We're more and more broadcasters are calling out umpires.
It happened the other day in the Twins broadcast Byron Buxton was injured and one of the umpires was telling telling him, in so many words, let's hustle it up, okay, to get off the field. He wasn't feeling really good all right. So Rob Drake was the first base umpire and kind of was a little upset with Buxton's pace and wanted him to hurry to get off the field. And well, the Bally Sports North crew didn't like it too much, La Troy Hawkins, Corey provis So they were critical of him,
which is, you know, that's fine. Same thing happened in the Baltimore game Baltimore Orioles, I forget who. I don't know if it was Gunner Henderson at the plate, but of course, who do you have behind the dish? Cebe Buckner, who's you shouldn't know? Umpires names, you shouldn't know, referees names you were. I mean, those are the people who are supposed to be silent but help the game along. It's not a good thing if you're recognizing umpires on a regular basis. Oh boy, we got
Angel Hernandez. Oh boy, we got Cebe Buckner. Uh oh, we've got Teddy Valentine. Those are not good things. TV ted is what they call them. He embraced that stuff in college basketball. Cebee Buckner behind the plate calls a strike three that was clearly low. It was gunner head, Yeah, thank you. And Jim Palmer just says, you know what, he shouldn't be umpiring, and he is and they know it. There's two different situations where they are calling out the people who are policing their game.
Do you remember, before the playoffs began in the NBA, Anthony Davis called out the league itself. Do you remember this at all? Anthony Davis said, Remember the three players announced for Defensive Player of the Year, Anthony Davis is not one of them. It was Rudy Gobert. It was Bam Autebayo from Miami, and it was of course Victor Webbin Yama. And it won't surprise me if Weben Yanama women wins it. Even though he's a rookie. There is no Anthony Davis, and Anthony Davis came out and said, quote,
I'll never get Defensive Player of the Year. They're not giving it to me. The league doesn't like me. I'm the best defensive player in the league. I can switch one through five, I can guard the pick and roll the best in the league. From a big standpoint, I block shots, I rebound. I don't know what else to do. I'm over it. I'm done with accolades and individual awards, done with winning a championship too,
because the team was eliminated. But yeah, that's more and more teams or players, I should say, And more and more announcers are feeling comfortable about calling out either players or leagues. Charles Barkley did it. Charles Barkley said, for all you punks and idiots and jackasses on other networks who want to be who want to be media and want all the players to like y'all, do your damn job. The Lakers suck and the sun suck because of
the players. This goes back to what I was saying earlier on the show. Not this morning, but in the past. We want to criticize coaches, and for good reason. I'm not saying there they don't deserve any blame. But you and I both know. You and I both know the NBA, for example, is a players league. We see these great shots of team huddles. Let's go full sound up with the players listening to the coach and the coaches miked up. Let's go inside the huddle and hear what Manty
Williams has to say. Give me the dry erase board and drop up a play. That's great stuff, and it is. It's good access. I love it. You should love it too. But for the most part, for the most part, that is it's a player's league. We say it all the time. The only time we criticize coaches is in losses wins we credit the player. Look, I did it too, I said it this morning. Luka donciz thirty five and ten. How come we're not getting any
throwing any flowers at Jason kids feet? Charles Barkley said last night in the postgame Boston in Miami, they're raving about what the Celtics did. He goes, I'm not going to give them any flowers. I'm not giving them any candy. They should have blown them out. He's right, He's absolutely right.
This is what's become though I don't know where it started, or when it started, or who it started with, but there is the fear that you're not going to get your exclusive You're not going to be able to sit a guy down, You're not gonna be able to talk to him in an extended interview because he holds the power Tiger Woods, Lebron James whatever. Have you ever noticed that if you criticize certain individuals, they hold it against you,
And that's what's happened. But those are good examples right there of broadcasters Bill and willing to say, you know what, this guy's he's not very good. He hasn't done a good job. I've done that in the past. I think you have to pick your spots, and I think you have to be careful with it. Charles Sparkley doesn't have to worry about it. He doesn't have to face the same team every single day, he doesn't have to travel with that team. He's being honest, he should be. He
doesn't take friendships into his job. It's part of the reason he is so effective at what he does. I don't think he's I don't think he's a great analyst. I don't think he'd be a really good court side analyst. Of course, they do have stan Van Gundy for crying out loud DNT. Why doesn't that ever get brought up just out of curiosity? Remember when Matt Millan was the second analyst on Fox. It was John Madden and then it
was Matt Millan. Matt Millan was really good. He becomes the general manager of the Detroit Lions and proceeds to stink just awful, goes back to the booth and it's primarily Big ten network now and people just don't want to hear it. People are like, give me a break, this guy was so bad, so on and so forth. Okay, hurt the reputation, I understand it. How come I done? Happened with stan Van Gundy? Like people go to seek out his advice. I mean he literally said not too
long ago. The problem I think for Detroit is what are you going to do with your cap space? Where are you going to try and win. My guess Tom Gores wants to get this thing done quickly, not sit around and wait on a young core. I think that's probably the right approach. You screwed this franchise and you've got members of the media seeking your advice. What would you do now for the Pistons when he was in charge of the Pistons? How absurd is that we blame so many people we blame This is
so hypocritical in the media. We blame so many people for so many different things, different walks of life, avenues. Doesn't have to be the sports while they're doing it. Then when they're done, we all, hey, let's let's get their advice. What do you think you'd do. Man, here's a guy who says, you're gonna have to supplement as you go along. They've got good pieces. Durren Thompson, Sasser Ivy, he's naming Kid Cunningham. He's name in five six guys for a team that won thirteen fourteen
games this year. Thanks Stan, who in their right mind goes to him and says, I got an idea. I want to do an interview. Let's bring on Stan van Gundhy and ask him, what would you do with the Pistons. Are you flipping kidding me? That's ridiculous. But those same people who do that, what do they do. They'll go out and they'll criticize this and criticize that. But they were good friends with stan Van Gundy while he was here in Detroit. So let's ask him what he would do
in free agency or to rebuild this team. Didn't you already ask him what you would do to rebuild this team? And all he did was sink it further into the toilet. Well that's James Edwards at eight thirty five. See if he's got a thought on that. I do want to ask him because there was a podcast out there. I didn't listen to it, but they actually had stan van Gundy on and asked them asked him his opinion of what he would do with the Pistons. It's laughable. But the same person who
had that podcast, what are they gonna do. They're gonna go out there and they're going to criticize this person and that person and so on and so forth. I mean, oh my god, the hypocrisies. But we don't say anything about it. Nobody says a thing about it. It's maddening, absolutely maddening. Meyer hotline is eight sixty six eight three, eight forty eight forty three. The text line is Sports Radio twenty one thousand. That's how
you can jump on board. Speaking of getting something together and being an architect, whether it's Matt Millan and stan Van Gundy blowing up their franchises, or is it Brad Holmes who has had an unbelievable run with the Detroit Lions. Who's the best architect in Detroit? Slash the state of Michigan history. Brad Holmes is getting all kinds of flowers right now, and for good reason. It's been incredible. His moves for the most part a right, not just
the drafts. I'm talking about his moves overall. I think really good general managers they have to decide, they have to recognize when things go awry, what's working and what's not working. Cut bait if you will. I can think of probably two others. Look, Scott Harris is trying to do this. Troy Weaver is trying to do this to no avail. Steve Eisaman is trying to do this. Who are the best architects that Detroit has ever had? Jack McCloskey of the Pistons. I mean, he's the one who drafted
Isaiah Thomas. He's the one who drafted Joe Dumars and John Sally and Dennis Rodman. He's the one who traded for Vinnie Johnson and Bill Lambier and Mark Aguire and Rick Mahorn and Adrian Danley. You can't you can't deny that he got championships out of it. Bill Lejoy, he's the one who built the eighty four Tigers. And look, I don't think it's just an architect of
a championship team. Dave Dombrowski was pretty damn good. Did he set the organization back to quote unquote go for it by trading a lot of young talent. A lot of that young talent wasn't very good, So that's the downside of his tenure in Detroit. But he did make them extremely competitive. If you don't think Joe Dumars was a really good architect, you haven't paid attention.
Look at how good the Pistons were, not just with the one championship, but contending regularly in the Eastern Conference finals, regularly in the postseason, and of course Jimmy Devellano. Jimmy Devellano is probably the best architect. How do you deny that? And I'm not picking just one guy from each team because I said Bill Joy and Dave Dombrowski. You don't have to go to from just one team. I said Joe Dumars and Jack McCloskey. Now,
granted, except for Dombrowski, it ended up in a World championship. Tigers should have had I think two World Series championships under Dombrowski. I think they should have won in two thousand and six when losing to the Cardinals, and I think two thousand, what was it thirteen when they lost to the Orioles his mistake bringing in Brad Ostmas or twenty sixteen? Is that what it was? I forget which was here? That was because they lost to Boston in
one of those years? Was that twenty thirteen? Okay, either way should have had it right, the Joaquing Ben Wah giving up the Grand Slam to David Ortiz, losing to Baltimore. I'm not counting the San Francisco. The Giants were just better that year period twenty twelve. Anyway, those architects, these are the art that's who Brad Holmes is trying to be. Brad Holmes will probably if if the Lions ever win that Super Bowl. And Ben Raven
is a guy we talked to yesterday. Well replayed that at seven thirty five. He covers the Lionsfranlive dot com. We asked him about Brad Holmes. If he does, he'll probably viewed as the greatest architect this city has ever had because the Lions have never done it. Because the Lions were so bad, the other guys inherited just as bad situations. When Jimmy Devellano took over the Red Wings, they were horrid, you know the stories. They were
called the Dead Wings. They were giving away cars once in a while just to get people into the building. And it started with what the key piece for Devil Lano, It was drafting Steve Eisman, It was the start. Took a while to get there, but it was the start. For McCloskey, was drafting Isaiah Thomas. Took a while to get there, but it was a start. For l Joy, it was multiple players. It was the drafting of Trammel and Whittaker, first round pick of Kirk Gibson, so
on and so forth. You know, the stories. I don't need to rehash it for you. For Dumars, it was overcoming some of his mistakes, but bringing in guys. His wasn't as much drafting. I don't think his was more about trading for Ben Wallace, trading for Richard Hamilton, acquiring Rashid Wallace, bringing in Chauncey Billups. That wasn't a home grown team. Phone number on the Meyer hotline eight sixty six eight three, eight forty eight
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