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Shep discusses the Pistons' extension of Cade Cunningham, and Ted Kulfan joins the show to talk how the Red Wings should approach free agency.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Second hour of the program. At the bottom of the hour, Ted Coulfin Detroit News will join us. You can text the program Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. You can call us on the Meyer Hotline eighty six six eight three eight forty eight forty three. This is x'es and Brosware with you Monday through Friday from six until nine. Don't forget the huge show a little bit later on on these great station affiliates Monday through Friday, three until six.

I'm Matt Shepherd. Trent is our producer, and we look forward to the conversation coming up with Ted Coulfin at seven thirty five to Shaun Tate will join us to talk NBA at eight thirty five. And that has something to do with our pole question. Our pole questions, we have two of them. Was the pistons hiring of JB. Bickerstaff a good one? Yes, No, it won't matter until they get better players. And then the second pole question and you can vote his official want follow us on Twitter at Exis and

bros Is. Regarding the Red Wings, Patrick Kaine, did you want the Red Wings to resign? Patrick Kane signed Steven Stamkos or both now Let's keep in mind with Steven Stamkos, who I think has been you know, he's a Hall of Fame player, there's no doubt he's a Hall of Fame player. But how much would it take to get a guy like Steven Stamkos here if it's going to break the bank at his age of thirty five, right, and he's had some issues health wise, No, I wouldn't want that.

No, thanks. You cannot let big name seduction getting the way of long term plans. So I think Detroit is one of those teams that he is interested in, Steven stampcos I would guess, you know, a team like perhaps Vegas would be involved or want to get involved, and maybe a team like Nashville who could use a guy down the middle who could score a little bit. Anyway, you can vote as often as you want and we'll give you the results tomorrow. We'll have the results of Friday's poll. Question

that had to do with golf. We'll get to that coming up in the eight o'clock hour. Speaking of golf, in case you missed it, Cam Smith wins the Rocket Mortgage Classic. He becomes the first two time winner of the event. He carted to two hundred seventy on Sunday, finished eighteen under for the tournament, one shot of Akshay Batilla, who three putted from thirty

two feet on eighteen. The par putt had some movement. It wasn't necessarily as tricky as the Rory McElroy putt at the US Open where he lost to Bryson de Shamba, but it had a little bit of movement there. It was from four feet away, and I thought, but TIA's answer afterwards when people last him, I give him a ton of credit. He said, it's probably a little nerves. I'm human. It wasn't for the win, it was for a playoff. It was his first three putt of the weekend.

It was just his second bogie of the tournament. I was rooting for him. He's just a twenty two year old young man from North Carolina. I think he's a good player. I think he's a really good player. Nelon against Cam Smith, who's also a really good player too. But Cam Smith has won twice on the PGA Tour. In twenty twenty one, he wanted the Rocket Mortgage Classic. Now in twenty twenty four, he's one of the Rocket Mortgage Classic. So there's your look at some local things. Also,

the Pistons hiring JB. Bickerstaff again, pull question. You like it? I like it a lot. He gets a five year deal, four years guaranteed. I like it because he has a history of developing younger players. Forget the big name. I don't think he's got a big name, but I think people know who he is. Forget the big name seduction that you and many of us always have. But what he has done, Granted he got fired. A lot of coaches has been fired for crying out loud.

Okay, let's not a caught up in that kind of stuff. Sam vange Gunny got fired, Doug Collins got fired, Dwayne Casey got fired, Chuck Daily got fired. You're not finding many guys who are the head coach of an organization and staying there for their entire careers. There's not many Greg Popovich's out there anyway. Bickerstaff has that history of taking a team and getting

them to the next step and steps all right. Calves reached the playoffs twice under his leadership, got out of one series once and this was this past year. Pretty damn good considering what they had available to them. Shaf The Cavs won more games last season than the Pistons, having their last two combined, last two combined, right, isn't that crazy? It is? And I think it's funny you bring up Chuck Daily because the last coach to get

fired by the Calves and hired by the Pistons was one Chuck Daily. So I think Pistons fans right now would sign up for Chuck Daily two point zero if Bickerstaff can even come close to that. Absolutely, And I didn't know that. That's a good nugget. Pistons have won no more than twenty three games in a single season in each of the past five seasons, four straight years with a top five pick, So that's a that's a low bar, man, right, low bar can't get any lower than fourteen games, right,

Well though, we said that about seventeen and look what happened. But you're right, No, you're one hundred sent right. I mean, so the Cavs went from twenty to and fifty under Bickerstaff's first season, and remember he took over when John Beeline quote unquote quid or the team quit on him in Cleveland, and then in his second year, so they go from twenty to and fifty. So you're doing the math right now, and you're going,

wait, that's only seventy two games. So he takes over for b Line full time head coach forty four and thirty eight in a second year. I don't think that's a first of all, twenty two. A bump from twenty two to forty four is massive. I do not expect the Pistons to go from fourteen to thirty six. Okay, we'd love it. It's still not what you ever really want, but it's gonna you're gonna see progress.

Okay. I would argue this is nothing against Monty Williams, who, in my minimal dealings with good dude, Okay, you have to be all in, you have to be dedicated and a want to. I'm not gonna say Monty Williams wasn't dedicated, but the want to was pretty obviously lacking. JB. Bickerstaff I do not worry about now. I did read a national article, I think it was supporting news where it said the Pistons have plenty of standout talent on their roster, and I thought to myself, who the hell

is writing this stand out talent? Trent answer me the question of stand out talent for the Pistons, give me the guy who is stand out talent. Well, one is Cad And I mean the Pistons put their money where their mouth is yesterday on that front. Other than that, sheep, it's really in the eye of the beholder. I mean, I'm higher on some of the younger talent than most, but I'm with you, there's not much, but it's not stand out, correct. J. J. N Ivy doesn't

stand out. No, neither does Duran right, Okay? And who knows about Ron hollin the second right, so that he's not even in the conversation. There's nobody else on this team that has stand out talent. Caid Cunningham, Yes, and to your point, kid, Cunningham reportedly set to sign a five year, two hundred and twenty six million dollars extension. That's great, that's I mean, that's that's fantastic. Give him a ton of credit and give the Pistons credit to You could say it's all about money, and

that would be probably fear with in today's sports landscape. But he's had he's had to want to stay here too, and he's doing just that. He is the centerpiece. He's the fixture. He's the guy who has to be the guy moving forward and the guy who will be responsible for bringing in additional talent who that is no idea because the free agent crop getting, you know,

gobbled up pretty quick and not really there for the Pistons. As far as difference makers, we'll talk with Deshaun Tate at eight thirty five about that, and don't forget Ted Coulfin at the bottom of this hour to talk wings on exs and Bros. Bill Simon here from my good friend Josh Garvey. Now he's a managing shareholder at Dorn Mayhew's Grand Rapids office. They're world headquarters are in Troy, Michigan, on the east side of the state, and

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next five years at two hundred and twenty six million dollars. Well, it's an extension, it's not just the next five years. I think that is fantastic I think it tells you something about him and the organization. And before we start shaking your head vigorously and saying it's all about the money, Look, it's about the money no matter who is out there signing a contract, right. I mean, you can't help that. When people teams are throwing

money at you, you can't help it. Here's the thing I would tell you, though, if you didn't agree or respect the organization, you're eventually with a guy like him, his talent, his ability, He's eventually going to get the money he is. Think about it. What is Paul George signing for in Philadelphia. He's gonna get a four year deal. So eventually Caid Cunningham And it's a lot of money, a ton of money. Valentunas agreed to that three year, thirty million dollar deal with Washington. Oh you

can't. You can't bring people in in Washington. Nobody wants to go to Washington. Nobody wants to go to Detroit, all this other stuff. Give me a break, man. If the money is there, it's going to

be. They're gonna they'll lure you there. You may not get the top name free agent, but you'll be able to get some decent players, caid Cunningham could have easily said, you know what, I'm gonna play this rookie contract out and I'm going to see what's available out there, and he would have gotten a lot of money as much as what he did with signing with Detroit. Perhaps not, but you can build on those contents. Eventually that

money is going to come your way. I believe this speaks of his character. I believe it speaks of his leadership, and I believe it speaks to his belief that eventually this team is going to turn things around. When that is, I don't know he would know better than I would, or have a better sense of it. I just know. I just know this. I mean, when you look at certain players, Contavii's Caldwell Pope's a good example. Contavius Caldwell Pope is a guy who's been around for a long time,

and if you recall, he's a former Piston, all right. He is a guy who's drafted in the first round, the eighth pick overall in twenty eighteen. He's been a very steady player. Does he have the gifts of cap Cunningham, Absolutely not, But playing four years in Detroit, playing four years in Los Angeles for the Lakers, a year in Washington that might have been tough to take, a couple of years in Denver. Caldwell Pope now signs a contract with Orlando. Now it's not over two hundred million dollars,

but it's sixty six million dollars. He's also not in his early twenties, thirty one years old chep thirty one, thirty one. My point is eventually, I mean, the money's going to be there. Maybe not all at once, but the money's going to be there. How do you read

or what do you read into about Cad Cunningham staying with the Pistons. Now, I'm sure there are skeptics out there, the people who look at things in a negative light, and I can fall into that trap as well, who will say that's all they got, So what that's all they got? Folks. It's more than just money that requires players to sign free agent deals or get excited about a certain trade. It's the opportunity to play with certain

individuals. And I think there's a lot of players who eventually, maybe not right now, and I'm not saying they're superstars, so don't get it twisted, but there are certain guys they're going to say, you know what, I'm going to go there. I'm excited to play with that dude because that dude's a really good player. What do you think the perception is of Caid Cunningham in the NBA. Maybe we'll talk with Deshaun Tate about that. He's going to joins at eight thirty five. Do they view him as a star,

a superstar, a future superstar. I think everybody recognizes his overall talent. I think everybody recognizes and I think there'll be something to be said for them saying, you know what, this dude chose to stick it out with this team. He wants to win there. That is really good for people here in Detroit and people in the state of Michigan. But there are other athletes who've had the exact same mindset and just had moreked out. Matthew Stafford's

a pretty good example of that. Wanted to win here, didn't win here, had to go someplace else. In one Ky Cunningham seems to be the guy who wants to win here, and I know that's pollyannish. It is we all want to win in the place, or many athletes want to win in the place that drafts them. They want to be. They'll tell you this publicly when they start. This is where I want to start and end my career, which I've always found rather funny because you don't know what it's

like when you first sign. Let's see what happens, right, But that's the perfect story, is to stay with one team. Well, rarely does that happen. You know, there's no Cal Ripken junior stories anymore. I mean, we've been fortunate in Detroit to have certain guys Trammel Whitaker, for example, way back in the day, stay with one team. If if Grant Hill wasn't going to stay with one team, I can't imagine that a guy like Kate Cunningham is going to remain a Piston for his entire career.

That's not my concern right now. My concern right now is what are they going to do to surround him. I wouldn't be surprised if the hiring of JB. Bickerstaff didn't play a slight part in him signing, because I think a lot of players look at JB. Bickerstaff as a guy who's going to help them get better, young players get better. I would love Kate Cunningham to be and Isaiah Thomas Joe Doom where they stay a piston for their entire career because he seems like a that type of guy. But whether he does

or doesn't isn't of interest to me right now. Right now, what's of interest to me is that he's got a five year extension with this team, and this team can use him as the centerpiece, the focal point moving forward. So again we'll talk about that with Deshaun Tate at eight thirty five. When we come back, we'll dive into Red Wings discussion with Ted Kalf and our friend from the Detroit News. He joins us on Exes and Bros.

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involved at Purplecommunity dot org thirty five after the hour. Welcome back, Exes and bros. We're on across the Great State of Michigan and Flint and Cadillac Grand Rapids, Grailing, Gaylord, Midland, Saganaw Bay City, Pataski, Charlavoy, Traverse City. Thanks for joining us on this first of July. And we appreciate our friend Ted Kaulfin, the Detroit News Red Wings beat writer and a Hall of Famer in Dearborn who joins us as well. Happy holidays

early to you and your family. Ted, We appreciate it very much. I know you're well and I know you've been busy, so appreciate the time very much. The Patrick Kane first and foremost, the Patrick Kaine one year deal. Why do you think this is such a good deal for Steve Eisman and the Red Wings And what does this allow them to do moving forward with another you know, established leader and a producer of twenty goals from a year

ago. Well, first, thanks for the kind words, and I think the Hall of Fame thing was ninety five percent sports writing and five percent wreck basketball and softball. Let me tell you, Bobby Benia Dage, you get your million dollar paycheck in the mailbox this morning. Well listen, of course, I'm just I just can't wait to spend it. You know, I'm sure you did too. You're the best man. I tell you A great

signing for one year, come on, Chep. I mean, I think all the talk was about all he was gonna want it two or three years. I'm gonna be curious to see how that went down. Yeah, I mean, and the money for a million dollar base, so, Schep, they got a couple more extra million to play with today. So you know, there'll be some interesting names out there. And we've talked about him Stamcoast,

Jonathan marsh Show betrayed with Jacob Truba is still in the mix. So it's gonna be really interesting, interesting to see how he puts Steve Weisman puts all these pieces together. But yeah, Patrick Kanemy showed everybody he can still play at a very elite level last year. What did you think he brought to the team that it lacked, that it needed. That's a good question, Sep. Just a little pizzazz. I mean that nickname showtime, it really yeah, it fits. I mean that's what he brought. I mean,

he had a sense of exciting here. Man, that flair for the dramatic. How many goals to you have? I think he had like four game winning goals and O T or something like that. I mean, just that little extra. It would have been tough to replace him. What is he? You know? From a player standpoint? Uh, I think they've got leaders in there. He's just another one. But he seems to settle guys down. Do you think that's part of the DNA that they like in

that room before him? Yeah? Sure, I mean he's been He's done it a long time. He's been in every possible situation, every possible moment. Uh. What multiple Stanley Cup championships, man, I mean he just he knows how to bring it at the biggest possible moment. He can calm the young guys down. He's been through it. Uh. He and the thing of chemistry wise just really good. He fit into that room really well. I was kind of curious how that was gonna work. But he's just

he's fit in really seamlessly. Uh. And he seemed to like it, Chap, I really did. He liked playing for the organization like the area, who's familiar with it. I'm not shocked that he came back. I thought there was a really good chance, but I am surprised by just the one year. I really thought it'd be multiple years. But then again, like we said earlier, that one year with the base, that's only four million bucks that's going to help the Wings. Yeah, there's no question.

Tik Kulfin of the Detroit News joining us here on X's and Bros. You can fall him on Twitter on X at t Kulfin k U l f A. And he's the dearborn Hall of Famer and he's with us on this Monday morning. Now that he's in the fold. And you understand they had a lot of money under the cap, but a lot of that money's going to Raymond Insider, Right, So where did they go next? And what would

it take to get one of those players on their wish list? Man, that's a great question, Chepe. If I was the GM and where would I go next? Or I would definitely try. I suppose that Steven Stamkost, I'm not sure that's gonna Again, maybe I'm mister pessimistic. I'm not sure that that's going to happen. Because I've heard that Nashville is going to be very aggressive. The Rangers are going to be very aggressive, and I just don't know if the Wings can match that. But I tell you my

friend and you know, to Steve Weichman has a way. I mean, he's pretty good these sort of things. He's got a relationship with stamp posts. So let's see if that kind of helps the TRUEBA thing like we you know, we heard about all weekend. I'm not sure how much there is to that. I would definitely consider it. I don't know if you would. I would consider it for the number. I guess Rangers will retain some of that money, so the Wings would probably be on the hook for about

five or five point five. That's reasonable. I suppose. I think there's better options than Jacob True but but he's I think he would fit in nicely on This gives him, he gives him some bite and physicality, There's no question about that. But uh, you know what, here's one name under the radar a little bit. Uh the little goal scorer from Vegas, Jonathan Marcia Show. You know, he won the Conmys a couple of years ago. He's an interesting option if they I think he would really help. He's

been h he's been a pretty consistent thirty goal scorer whatnot. Plays with kind of a little David Paran type of thing, and he's good friends with David Paran. Plays with a little bit of you know, he has a little bit of an edge, kind of a kind of guy that's under the gets under the fingernails of the other team. He'd be an option, uh, long, long, long, long shot Tyler Bertuzzi. Who knows, maybe that they get you know, something can happen there. But that's a long,

long one unshot. But there's some options. There'll be a fun day, that's for sure. It always is. Yeah, you know what, I'm glad you bring that up because to me, I don't think you necessarily need to be by the big names all the time. It just has to be the right fit. And you brought up David Perron. I think David Prawn has been a very good fit. Do you anticipate him re upping and staying in Detroit? He sure likes it, Harshop, I'll tell you that

much. He really enjoys it here. He's going to have to take a little bit of a salary bite. I mean he can't take he can't make as much a he's last year, but I think he would at this point in his career. No, you're absolutely right, my friend. I think he's been a good fit and I do think I'd be surprised if they don't work out something with him. And then the defenseman Shane Gostis p hair that'll

be a little more difficult. I guess we'll see what happens with True but first I suppose too, But I thought the one thing with that Gustus be hair man is he run of power. I mean, you had heard all the positives about how good he is with with a puck at his stick. He is something special. That'd be uh, you know, he lacks a little defensively, but boy, oh boy, he brings it on the other end of the rink. And again, that'd be a tough guy to replace

if they lose him. Yeah, there's no question about that. I think, you know, for as bad as he may be defensively, he makes up for that offensively and the power play. And maybe that's why Jacob True, but at least for me, is is such an attractive option. I've liked him ever since he came out from the University of Michigan. I loved him in Winnipeg. I think he'd be a really big plus for the Red Wings, but I've been wrong before. I thought Jeff Petree would be as

well. How much should we his defensive metrics is defensive staffs and you can I'm not you know those metrics? What just the eye I look for the eye test he has slipped at. He didn't play as well with the Rangers the last couple of seasons, and he wasn't demoted down to the third pair in the playoffs and that's where he was. Ragers are kind of penciling them in next year. He's lost to maybe a little bit of a step, and he takes some bad penalties, but boy, that just that idea that

he's back there and he's not afraid to hit. Obviously, that would be an interesting, a good option for them to have back there. In that regard, how much should we read ted into what this team is doing moving forward and the trading of Wollman and the second round pick and some of the younger players that maybe we feel are close to being ready to jump into the next next year. Well, the Wallman trench shop that was just basically done

to clear cap space. They needed a little bit more room for what they wanted to accomplish today and signing Raymond and Cider tough to move salary of these days in the NHL, and that kind of shows that there were a couple other deals this weekend where the team had to attached a draft pick just to basically unload a salary. Uh And by the way, wellman, I thought he slipped a little bit last year, Shop. I mean, he was

as good as he was the year before. I mean, he was a healthy scratch there down the down the down the stretch, and you know who knew you know where he was going to stand on the depth chart next season. But yeah, I mean you got Simon Edvinson coming in for sure, a shop. But he looks like he's going to be the real deal. He could be a nice player. Johansen kid, I hadn't watched him as much just during training camp in some of the preseason games. I mean,

they love, they love the way he moves the puck. He's a really steady guy. Bergeran Johnson Burner, He's been up here before, He's had some success here before. Bergert, you do kind of wonder where he's going to fit into the lineup, especially after today, if they get a couple of guys, we'll see what happens. I think he's ready to play nice. He's got great instinct shep. He knows what to do with the puck. He seems to be in the right spot all the time. They've got

some guys ready. I mean, pretty soon, you're pretty soon here we'll get to see the likes of what Nate Danielson and who's the other first of Marco Casper. I don't know if there's room this year SHP, but it's gonna be pretty soon, probably another year year away. So yeah, he'll be interesting. I mean, if he bridges some of these guys that he signs, like Caine last night, just to one year, that does still leave some open spots for next year. So there's some depth. There's some

depth of this organization. I think, well, we will begin to see it this year and definitely in the next two or three years. It's a good sign. Ted Coulfin joining us here on Exus and Bros. You can follo him on ex at t Coulfin he of the Detroit News. Eight draft picks over the weekend, led by Michael Brandon nine yard right the kid from Norway and the first ever Norwegian drafted in the first round. What was your overall take on the hall that Steve Eiserman and Chris Draper had for Detroit on

Draft weekend. Well, we'll see in the future set, but it was the full They definitely they needed a few more score more wingers. I mean, they got a lot of pieces on defense as far as the depth chart and organizationally, they needed a few more wingers. The kid from Norway, he's not far away. Evidently he's got a pro build. I mean, he's pretty strong kid, heck of a shot. Allegedly, Uh, he plays hard, great on the forchet. A couple of scouts told me this

guy might be the best for checker in the draft class. So you know they needed a guy they don't think that didn't necessarily have a guy like that anywhere. So he he helps a lot of people, like that second round pick from the US program shop Ye, Max Plant nice faster. Allegedly, one guy told he might be one of the best passes, if not the best passer in the draft. You can find just the way you can feather the puck. He finds the open man and then their here's one sleeper.

That Swedish kid they got like in the fifth or sixth round, that Charlie Forthland. I think it is big kids six foot three. Uh, one of those kids that played in the lower division than Sweden, so he kind of dominated. But you know, we'll see how that translates next season into playing into a bigger division. But you look at the size and the skill. You know, you can put the puck in the net and some other

things that they like. It could be who knows, maybe I'll be one of those kids down the line that they really found a gym later in the draft said what does this team need? Hmm, that's a great question. That's a great question. Uh could use a few you know what, This teams be better defensively. I think the offense is starting to come around. I mean if you would have asked me that a year or two ago, but it didn't score enough goals. I think they'll be able to score enough

goals. They kind of they did this season, but they still have to stop the other team. I mean that was still a problem last year. So I guess to a certain extent, do we look at the goaltending, does that still need to be upgraded. Uh, you know who's so in Lion. I don't know. It's not bad. It's not a bad combo. I'm sure I could be. It could be better. So maybe he

goes well, there's nothing in free agency that really betters that. But maybe on the trade market does he find something but a healthy I'll tell you what, a healthy Whoso. I still think that could be. That's a pretty good adoption to have. I think he could. He showed two years ago he could be a really good goalie and last year was just a wash. I mean, he just was injured the entire year and sand got for Alex Lion last year. SEPD then had him by would have made a disaster.

He stepped up and played really well. He really did. But here's the bigger concern for me. Anyway, You're much closer to it than I can be. But I just don't see how they have a number one goalie. It's kind of like it's kind of like the Tigers lineup. You really don't have a lot of number one guys at different positions. I wouldn't mind Whoso as a backup. I wouldn't mind lying as a backup. But if I'm playing either one of those guys on a regular basis. I'm slightly concerned.

How far off are there? Argument? Shop? We were just talking about that. That's a fair argument. A healthy who's soo I kind of think Highland a little more highly of it, sounds like than you do. But he's got to be healthy, that's the thing. He's got to be healthy. Alex Lyon. Yeah, I mean he had a really good run last year, but then he did get it seemed like he got a little tired there at the end or whether the pressure or whatnot. Now that's a very

fair point. That's maybe the old go in that direction. How about maybe sadn't I mean, how about somebody like a John Gibson from Anaheim. Yeah, I mean he's kind of slipped to the last couple of years, but he's ad a you know, he's still that age wise, he's still he can still bring it, probably and that might be an improvement, but it's not a ton of That's a tough that's a tough position to fill, I tell you that goalie and you just never know what them I mean, it's

like a relief pitcher. You just never know, you know. Steve Wiseman, well, enough. Last question for you, what is his patients level right now with this team, knowing that you're going to have to it was going to be a while for this, for this rebuild, if you will, But there are the expectations. Are people are getting a little restless. You're right. I think he wants to win, don't you. I think it's about time. I think he's had I think he's a little tired of

the losing. I think he is a patient man and he wants to do this the right way. But I just judging by some of these moves the last couple of years, he wants to make the playoffs. I mean, let's face it, and he wants to get this thing going. That's my impression anyways. Yeah, and with the younger players that he's got coming up, he feels like he can be sustainable because it's something that he has said, it's got to be more than just one year, right, and he

wants You want to do that. You want to build something like a Tampa or you know, the Bruins or Florida. You want to do that. And I think he's got his way to doing that with the depth that he's kind of building up in the organization, for sure. It's great stuff, Ted, appreciate it very much. All the best to you and your family. Thanks to the time this morning, and hope we can talk again.

It's always insightful. Appreciate your writing on the Detroit News and all the stuff you tweet out at Tea Culfin and taking some time with us here on a Monday morning. Buddy, you are the absolute best any time, my friend. All right, thank you, pal, have a great week. That's Ted Culfin of the Detroit News joining us here on exes and burros. Really good insight. The Patrick King stuff, the possibility of Stamco sent other names

out there. I like Jonathan Marcisso from Vegas, proven winner guy who does a lot of the little things that perhaps many of us don't always recognize when you watch them on a regular basis. Bottom of the hour, in the eight o'clock hour, Deshaun Tate's going to join us and talk a little basketball with Cabe Cunningham and JB. Becker Baker staff. And then of course free agency that hit yesterday at six o'clock. Anybody who thinks that free agency is

hitting at six o'clock and then suddenly there's all these contracts signed. If you don't think they're talking to one another before, then you are completely living in a fantasy land. But great stuff from Ted Coulfin. We'll get your thoughts on any of it that we had to talk about on the Meyer hotline eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three, and you can text the program Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. Then you're in. Can't wait to

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