Second hour of the program. Welcome back. Interesting take from Jim Bowden in the Athletic Whether or not the Tigers buy or sell? Let's talk about it here on x's Umbros right now. You can do so by calling and joining the conversation on the Meyer hotline eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. You can text the program Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. What
do you think? Buy or sell? What would you do? Now, that's a tough thing to ask because you and I oftentimes think too emotionally. We do. I hope people could admit that. I think one of the hardest things to do for any general manager right now or at any time, is to take the emotion out of it. This is what you have to do. Take the emotion out of it and do what you think is best for your team. Now, we were just we just finished before the top
of the hour. We were talking about the grades that ESPN has given each team, and how there are six teams that were given d's and the Tigers will want them. And as I mentioned, last time, the Tigers ranked in the top half of the AL and run scored was twenty sixteen. That's how horrendous. The offense have been another week. Detroit offense ninth in the AL and run score twelveth and adding average twelfth in home runs that's key fourteenth
and on base percentage that's just as important. For every step forward Riley Green, they write, there's a step backward Spencer Torkelsen, or a step off a cliff Javier Bias. They write, The sad part is that the Tigers made one of the best signings in the offseason, Jack Flaherty, while Terrek school is a sy On candidate, and Reee Olsen gives them an outstanding trio of starters. I would remind you this, not that I wanted him back, not that he deserves a pass, not that he deserves to be a
general manager anywhere else. But ala Vila did trade for ree Oulsen. You know what he gave up, right, He gave up Daniel Norris and he got ree Olsen in that trade. Milwaukee's really good. You think they'd love an arm like ree Olsen, You damn right they would anyway. ESPN plus rights, there just isn't enough to go around those three, and the Tigers appear on their way to an eighth straight losing season. That's the D plus. Wow, I'm just I eight straight, I just hearing it out loud.
Yeah. That puts it in perspective, doesn't it. Yeah, and it's unacceptable. It doesn't mean they've had the worst season. You and I may think it's among the worst, But the SBM plus ranks the Blue Jays with an F, the Angels with an F, Miami with an F. Miami made the playoffs last year, and the White Sox with an F minus. Yeah, ironically, the Socks are in your own division and they're worse. And look, anytime you've got two All Stars and you've got a cy
young candidate, there's no way you're having the worst season. But shepid goes back to our conversation about expectations and what the reality is for this team. Yeah, and that's where you have to measure it. How what do you What was your expectation? Everybody he knows mine. I was way wrong. Expectation and prediction are maybe a little different, but that's semantics. I was way wrong on this team. I can admit it. There's nothing wrong with
that. It happens. It's been a huge disappointment. Jim Bowden of the Athletic is a former general manager for the Cincinnati Reads. If you don't believe him, just ask him. If you don't think he knows what he's talking about, just ask him. But he writes some intriguing stuff, and he stands by his convictions. He's got strong opinions, and he's got really good contacts. I respect it. Here's what he writes about the buyers and the sellers. As you get closer to the trade deadline, it's at the end
of the month. Where do all thirty teams stand on the trade deadline? Especially when it's heading in to the All Star break. There are twenty days until the trade deadline. He literally just pulled to this just moments ago. So there are twenty days until the trade deadline. Where do teams stand? What do they need? Now? I don't know about you, but obviously I immediately gravitate. I'll scroll down every team to get to my team. But I can't help but look at the really good teams and see what they
may be saying about them. Like I think Philadelphia is a pretty complete team, don't you. I mean they're the first team to sixty wins. They beat the Dodgers yesterday, They're the first team in the league to sixty wins. Could they sustain a major injury? They are still getting to sixty wins without jt rili Muto, who might be the best catcher in baseball. Yeah, they're deep, They're well rounded. To your point, Yeah, I mean I like Will Smith a lot. I think he would probably be my
selection. Salvador Perez is unbelievable, but jt Roulamuto is in the conversation among the top three catchers. They've stained it. They lost Trey Turner for a while, they lost Nick Costianos for a while, they lost Kyle Schwarber for
a while, and yet they're able to sustain it. Seven all stars on the roster, franchise record, franchise record, and a guy hitting in the home run derby Alec Baum, who last night after the game said, when they talked about being the first team to sixty wins, what did he say? He said the right thing, He goes, We've got our minds and our goals set on bigger things than that. Beautiful. So I look at that and I'm like, Okay, what could they Their link to Luis Robert
Jazz, Chisholm, Cody Bellinger, those are big names, man. I mean, Jazz Chisholm is a little bit of a head case from what I read. Cody Bellinger brings you big pie pop with a left handed stick off the bench, and Luise Robert is an everyday guy. All three of those guys are every day guys. They're talking about trading for those guys. They're not talking about trading for prospects. I don't want to go Alan iverson, but we're talking about prospects. So I look at certain teams and see what
they're going to do. The Braves are an intriguing team just because Ronald Acunya Junior suffered a season ending knee injury. What would they try and get in on. Maybe Jazz Chis and maybe a Taylor Ward, maybe a Randy or Rose Arena. Again, big names. So I look down for the Tigers and I think, what are they going to do? At least according to Jim Bolden, what is he hearing? Is he hearing the same things that I'm hearing? Well, here's what he writes about the Tigers, and it's
kind of a middle of the road approach. He writes by or Sell question mark, that's the question of the Tiger's front office keeps asking themselves as they sit five games below, five hundred seven games out of the wild card position and four teams they need to hurdle to get there. Obviously they're not winning the division. They're fourteen games back of Cleveland right now. This team has not proven that it can go on some type of run where they're going to
win thirteen of their next sixteen games. That's not in his article. That's me sorry for ad living. He continues, the answer should be more clear closer to the deadline. Well again, Jim, they're twenty game days away from the deadline. Twenty days, not twenty games because you get the All Star break in there. Have you made up your mind by now? Because I have. I'd love to see them prove me wrong. I've made up
my mind. He apparently has not, so he says, the closer you get to the deadline, it should give you the result in them selling with potential trades involving starting pitcher Jack Flaherty. If his back issue doesn't worsen, We'll see how he does today. Cross your fingers that he gives them seven strong, he writes Mark Canna, He says, who is a solid corner bat coming off the bench. You see how important that is right there? A solid bench player, A guy coming off the bench. Folks, you
know what that tells you what? He is not a starting player on a good team. He's not a starting player. He's not playing eighty two games for a really good team. He's not playing eighty two games. It's been two twenty three. Would you consider that a solid bench player? I would not. But whatever. There are other names that he brings up. We'll get to when we come back. It's ten after the hour. Don't forget.
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Monday through Friday six until nine. Meyer Hotline eights sixty six, eight three eight forty eight forty three. You can text the program Tech Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. Get in on it. The Athletics and Jim Bowden, as we mentioned just prior to the break, coming out with an update on where all thirty teams in Major League Baseball stand at the trade deadline. He mentions Jack Flaherty if his back holds up. He mentions Mark Canna,
who is a what he calls a solid cornerbat coming off the bench. I would disagree, Geo Orshella strong defensive third baseman, So in other words, he comes in for defensive purposes late on a really good team, and he writes maybe even closer Jason Foley for the right price. That price for me would have to be steep. I don't. I've said this before. I'll continue to say it. You want prospects, okay, I need major league
players, major league ready players. If somebody's getting blocked, right, somebody in the Baltimore system, for example, is blocked because there's somebody ahead of him who is young and really good. Remember Gunner Henderson was blocked by Mateo for a little bit, and now they've moved Mateo and Henderson's their shortstopping rightfully. So well, he was blocked for a short period of time, and then Jorge Mateo, who signed a long term deal, was the guy blocking
him and then they moved him. So maybe somebody in Baltimore, Dristad for example, is blocked by another quality player and he could easily be a starter for a less than team. There you go, that's a possibility, right, If that's in the cards for Baltimore, it has to be more than that for Derek Schouble. But if it's Jason Foley. Yeah, I'm strongly
considering it. Why because when you make the trade and a guy like Jason Foley packs his bags, says goodbye to all his buddies, says thanks a lot, does his interview with the Detroit media, heads to the other city. When the player coming back comes into the Detroit Tigers clubhouse, that's really important. I don't want him packing a bag and saying, what number do
you want to play for Toledo, here's your locker stall in eerie. I want him walking over into the Tigers dugout into the Tigers clubhouse, putting on his dress, whites on the old English d and put in the lineup. When you have a talent like Jason Foley, you have a talent like Terrek Scooble, you have a talent like Jack Flaherty, you should be able to get if Flarerty's healthy, you should be able to get more than prospects, guys who will step into your lineup and they will start for you the rest
of the season. That is amongst the goals you should have when making these deals, my opinion, he writes, Some opposing executives have told me they think the Tigers could that's the keyword. Move Trek Scouble, who is under team control through twenty twenty six. If they get a massive return, that's important too, a massive return. And my hope is I would like that a little bit more clarified. If I interviewed Jim Bowden, I would say, can you tell me exactly what massive is? It's got to be more
than just prospects. Don't give me the number three, the number six and the number nine prospect and somebody's system. Nope, I want more than that. He writes. Both the Orioles and Dodgers would be capable of putting together that type of offer. I think Schooble stays, but if he's traded, he'll be the best player moved at the deadline. There you go, that's important. That's good stuff. But understand this too. I mean the Orioles
could definitely use it, all right. Injuries to Kyle Bradish and John Means have forced them. They have plenty of prospects they need starting pitching, But according to Boden, he says they don't intend to trade any of their top prospects. They didn't do so to acquire Corbin Burns earlier this year. And they don't see a reason. Now, well, there's a difference between Corbyn Burns and Trek Skoubl From a contractual standpoint and from a high upside standpoint.
Baltimore is not gonna waiver. They've built the best farm system in baseball. They're not going to let it all go for one season. Do you have to? I don't know. But if I'm the Tigers, I'm not trading any of my guys. I've got the upper hand here unless I get what they are worth. I am not going to settle like what has happened in the past. Let me get to some techs at Sports Radio twenty one thousand, Trent, go right ahead. Like Sheep said, we always welcome your
thoughts. You can text sports Radio all lowercase, no caps, no spaces to twenty one thousand. That'll get your role in this Textter says, good morning, chef. Just wanted to get your thoughts on Justin Henry molloy. Yeah. I like him a lot. I worry about where his home is because he does not look like a very gifted defensive outfielder. But I do like his bad I love his approach, I love his discipline in the zone so in first of all, he's a great dude. He is. He's
a great kid. Parents did a wonderful job, single child, came from really good program, won a national championship, came over in the trade from Atlanta, and he's gone about his business the right way, kept his mouth shut, put his head down and worked down to the minor leagues. Got his opportunity and he's not letting it go. I like him. I like him a lot. Here's what I worry about him, that he's a designated hitter. I would like to find some guys who we feel can own a
position. You know, when I asked a question along those lineship, sure, because I agree with you one hundred percent. By the way, Colt Keith, Carry Carpenter, justin Henry Malloy. There's a few guys in this young cors if you want to call it that, that don't really have a
home defensively. And I wonder if that's thing we should be concerned about now, or if it's something that as people who followed Tigers and want to see the Tigers hit more, we should just cross that bridge when we come to it, if you will, where it's like, absolutely we should hit the ball and then worry about the defense. Yeah, I think you actually, I think you should be worried about it. I do. Look, get I get Justin Henry molloy and what he's batting. He's bad, what like
just under two hundred, but I like him a lot. I think he's going to hit. I said the same thing about Cole Keith. I'm not going to judge you guys too quickly on that stuff, not when they haven't played much. Dude doesn't play thirty games in his major league career, so give him a little breathing room. You need some pop. He's got it all right, He's got five bombs, get a home run every six games. Based on that, But I think we should be worried about it.
The reason you should be worried about it because, as we mentioned earlier in the show, if you believe, the defense wins championships. That's what we hear all the time, right in baseball, Defense and pitching wins championship. Is that a fair phrase that you hear quite a bit? Yeah? Okay, okay, Then when you have that many players Keith, Justin, Henry malloy, carry Carbon who's worked really hard on his defense, can I take
it a step further Jase Young down in the miners. If they're looking for homes now, the organization will tell you they have homes, but they're not elite there, They're not even above average with their defense. Then something's got to improve. Something's got to be different in your development or you're drafting or you're trading. You can't have all these dhs and you can't have everybody play
second base man. This doesn't work. But I do like him, Like I said, I like his approach, I like his mindset, I like his character. I worry about the DH aspect. I worry that he would be a right handed DH and Carpenter would be a left handed DH. I worry that Jayce Young can't be a long term third baseman or Cole Keith can't be a long term second basement. Defensively, I'm not saying that they've got
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You can follow us on Twitter XP Mornings. You can like us on Facebook. X'es and Bros. We have our poll question there for you, and it's it's a kind of a unique poll question. I think today the pole question because of well what's There's just not a lot out there outside of baseball. So we asked which of these events are you most interested in?
Euro Soccer Chamampionships and that features England against Spain. Both teams won two to one in semi final action and we'll play for a championship on Sunday in Berlin. England is there for a second straight year. Spain goes for their fourth ever title. Don't ask me why I know all that stuff? Okay, please? Is it? Wimbledon is it Wimbledon. You're down to the final four, both for the men and the women. Novak Djokovic able to get
there for a thirteenth time. His opponent had to stop. Demnor actually didn't stop. He didn't play because of an injury. Didn't want it to get worse, thought it would ruin the rest of the season, so he had to bow out. Djokovic advances to his thirteenth semi final at Wimbledon, his forty ninth career semi final in a Grand Slam tournament. I don't know if he's the best of all time. There are some people who will put other names up there, all right, and I get it. I respect it
because they probably know more about tennis than I do. But if this dude's not in the conversation, you're not paying attention to men's tennis. I know the equipment's different, I know all the things that we use for other sports today compared today's gone by. I'm not saying John McEnroe or Jimmy Connors or Bjorn Borg would beat him, all right, all'm I don't even remember Rod
Laver. I just know he's a great player. But I don't know how you can have a conversation about the greatest men's tennis player all time without Novak Djokovic being in the conversation, right, because the other guys that are quote unquote in the conversation are Roger Federer Rafael Nadal, both of which Joker has more majors than that, right, Pete Sampras, Right, yeah, all
of them. Yep. So anyway, so we put Wimbledon in there, Scottish Open, which starts this weekend, and the NBA Summer League, who had four teams played last night, including the Lakers. No, I'm not going to say it. I'm not saying it. Dalton Connect had twenty they lost to Miami. Did you see the highlight by the way of the kid from Wake Forest. He went undrafted. I think his last name is Williams.
He had a spin move inside in the lane and just dusted a more famous last name player who signed in the second round a four year guaranteed deal weth seven million dollars. I don't want to be that guy, because when I hear interviews with this young man whose father plays on Team USA, this young man seems like he's pretty grounded, seems pretty Yeah, he really does,
and there's a part of me that's rooting for him. There's another part of me that goes, damn, second year or second round pick and he's getting a guaranteed deal. That's bull crap. If his last name is Smith, he's not getting a guaranteed deal. He might not even be drafted anyway. You can vote as often as you want on our poll question on our different social media sites, XP Mornings, Xes and Bros. Xp Mornings is
our Twitter handle, exes and bros is the Facebook page I mentioned. The Scottish Open, Rory McElroy plays his first event since the blow up at the US Open at Pinehurst. Remember he had the lead. He missed a putt on Trent was at sixteen. He missed it from okay, he missed it from two and a half feet. It's the first putt inside three feet he has missed all year. He's only missed one pot from three feet or closer all season long. There's no yips there for Rory McElroy. It just happened
to be one of the biggest moments of the season. Now, this is a guy who has not won a major since what twenty fifteen? He has been in the top ten in major championships twenty one times since twenty fifteen, more than anybody else. The problem is he hasn't won any of those majors. He may have finished in the top ten, but he is not a champion in any of them. Hey, chef, it's actually twenty fourteen. He won the twenty fourteen. The only reason I bring that up is that
makes it a full decade. Yes, sir, any time is running out. I don't care. I don't care what you say. I mean time. There's got to be a part of him that feels like time is running short, even though he still a relatively young man. There's so many great players today and so many young guys coming up and making the strong charge. Yeah, when you're thirty five years old, which is not old, No,
not at all. But to your point, when you haven't one in a decade and you're thirty five years old and you just had one in your grasp and you choked it away, let's just call it what it is, you take it away. Choke. Oh thin, it was a choke. I absolutely think McElroy lost it more than the shamba won it. Hmm. Now, Bryson had a great shot, but I do think we had that as a pole question. Didn't we Yes? I think we did. Yeah. I don't know, man, I'm very careful with the word choke.
That's fair. And the reason I'm not saying you're wrong. The reason I say that is because of the movement on eighteen in the putt. The putt was four feet and was strong left or right, and those greens are like putting out the hood of a car. And I just believe you had to be careful. He tried to explain it a little bit. You had to believe that too hard and strolling right off the green. But I do,
I do think there's something mentally there with Rory mcilray knowing. Look, he's still what top five player in the world easily, okay, I mean Scotti Scheffler, he's coming strong. He's twenty eight. Xander Schaffley. I'm not saying he's the best in the world, but he did win Olympic gold last time out in the Olympics and he's a major champion now. He's second on the money list. He's thirty. Ludwig Oberg really good Swedish player, he's
twenty four. Sahi Thigala twenty six, Colin Morikawa twenty seven. Right, these are young players who can flat out get it done. Sun jay In he's twenty six. Akshay Battia, he's only twenty two. Hey, even Bryson who we're talking about. Bryson and Shamba's thirty years old. Yeah. I like Tom Kim, he's only twenty two. Cameron Young's twenty seven. I don't know if you could finish it, but my point is you've got some younger guys who are ready to make their move, ready to make their
mark. How much going into the Scottish Open is Rory McElroy thinking about the meltdown at Pinehurst and the US Open. Here's what he had to say. I can, you know, vividly remember starting to feel a little uncomfortable waiting for my second putt on sixteen, and you know the putt on the putt on the lost was. You know, it was a really tricky pot and I was very aware of where Bryson was off a teue, so I knew
I had to hit it really soft. If if the one back didn't matter, I would have hit it farmer and it would have been But because I was sort of in two minds, I didn't know whether Bryson was going to make a power or not. It was one of those ones where I just had to had to make sure that if the putt and go in, that it wasn't going ten feet by which I very easily could have so And yeah, thinking back, I was probably maybe a little too aware of where Bryson
wasn't on what he was doing. But I think it was the nature of the golf course and how the golf course flowed, and how you know, after the fourteenth tee you're sort of looking at thirteen green, and then I had the we had on my t shot in fifteen before he hit our you know, to let him hit his second shot into fourteen, and you know, there was just the way the course flowed. It just it just made me very aware of what he was doing at the same time. So it
sort of got me out of my own little world a little bit. Think about that all the things that are going through his mind. Now he's had a chance to digest this. But this is a guy who's got forty professional wins, all right, He's got twenty six on the PGA Tour. He's a he's a multi major championship winner, he knows what it takes to win. That's why I hesitate just a little bit saying the word because he's won two PGAs, he's won a US Open, he's won the Open Championship,
hasn't won a Masters, but he's won these majors. He's playing in that US Open. He knows what it takes to win. He knows what it takes to win at Pinehurst. He's been the number one player in the world and he was there for one hundred and twenty two weeks. He understands how
to win a golf tournament. And yet with all that experience, with all the money in his bank account, with all the majors in his back pocket, having played that golf course numerous times, and playing with three holes to go, a chance to win another title, a chance to get his second US Open championship, those are the things that are going through his mind. Now. It would be really easy for me to say, you can't think about what Bryson Desham, what was going to do? You got to finish
your own business. Meanwhile, he's got to stare down a four foot putt that moves heavily left to right in if you hit it too hard, it could roll off the green and you definitely lose the tournament. There. This from a guy like me who when we're playing for skins and it's five dollars or we're playing wolf, I think about, Okay, am I going by myself? Or am I going to take Trent Bally? Because he just hit one one hundred and fifty yards down the middle of the fairway, But shep
oddly enough. This is where I just I'll push back a little bit. That's where I say he choked because he knew, he knew all those things he just laid out. He's Bryson's breathing down his neck and he misses a couple of putts that are very, very makeable, and like you said, he knows what it takes to win. All that's good and fine. It just it didn't happen for him. Yeah, I guess for me, I think when I think choke, I think that tells you that the pressure or
the moment was too big. And I just I have a hard time going there with him because of simple things like he's one of three players to ever win four Majors by the age of twenty five. Yeah, he's proven it to that point. You're exactly right. Yeah. I mean when when you're in the conversation with Jack Nicholas and Tiger Woods for that type of honor, for that type of accomplishment, that tells me that he knows how to deal
with the pressure. Now there's pressure everywhere and it's self induced. And I've said that constantly. I think Trent, when I be off base saying he almost put more pressure on himself. And maybe that leads to your argument that he choked, But he probably by thinking about all those different things, maybe he put more pressure on himself than he needed to. Yeah, that's kind
of where maybe we our definition of choke is a little different. But yeah, I think if you're getting in your head about things and it affects your performance, which I think in this case it clearly did. And he kind of admitted that, Yeah, that's where I'll go choke. Look here's what I wanted to know, and I suppose he skirted around the issue a little
bit. He said it, he answered it in a lighthearted way. But I want to know if somebody asked him during the press conference leading up to the Scottish Open Round one today, did anyone ask him, do you feel bad or why did you leave without congratulating Bryce into Shamba. Now he did allude to it, saying, look, the last thing on my mind is talking to you guys, the reporters. That's fine. You don't want to
talk to us. You want to walk to your rental car, throw your bags in the back seat, take your golf shoes off, and head to the airport. That's your business. I'm talking about shaking the hand of your closest competitor. I get tired. I get tired of professional athletes telling you and I that we don't play the game like they do, and yet they act worse than we do in the game, that they make a living at you and I would not do that. You play golf with your buddies,
and you play for some type of high school related trophy. I've got buddies, we play in a golf outing, and what do we do. We've got a trophy named after a good friend of ours who lost his life too early, and we have our school colors jacket that I picked up at some thrift shop as a joke, and you get to keep it until the next time we play. So whoever had the lowest score gets the gold jacket. Whichever team wins the event the weekend low score gets their name on the trophy,
and we congratulate him. Way to go all this stuff. Rory McElroy's playing for a championship, He's playing for millions of dollars, but more importantly, he's playing for a little bit of history. And he can't stick around ten minutes to shake the hand of the guy who just barely beat him. Don't ever sit in front of a crowd of reporters and tell them, or speak to a class or a bunch of kids and talk about sportsmanship. That's why it's hard for me to listen to some of the guys who've walked off
the floor in basketball. Or if you're going to do that, don't complain about anybody else who does something similar. Lebron James, Dwight Howard would have no business complaining about what Isaiah Thomas and the Pistons did against Mikey and the Bulls when the rain ended. Don't complain about it. You've done it yourself. Shep I don't disagree one iota, but can I throw this at you fire? Do you think it had anything to do with live versus PGA?
Well, if it does, he's even more of a hypocrite because he supported John Rahm constantly. Right, because John Ram's is good buddy and he's going to be his Ryder Cup teammate. So stop, we can all bring out excuses. Well, this is the reason I did it, and try and justify it. Sportsmanship is sportsmanship. It shouldn't matter. Look, there are guys every Sunday who bust their butt beating each other up, and when all is said and done, what do they do middle of the field, take
their helmet off and shake hands, even like MMA fights UFC fights. It
blows my mind. These guys are trying to murder each other. And then they have a great example, Oh shake hands, right, great example boxing in the boxing ring, I mean outside of Sugar Ray Leonard and Roberto Duran in their first one when Leonard raised his hands in burno and Duran wanted to fight him again, while the entire ring was being crowded with the members of the media and the PA announcer and trainers and so on and so forth.
But overall, you're right, I mean, they congratulate the individual warrior because it's a battle and they respect the game and to your point. That's the sportsmanship aspect of it, right right on, absolutely all right, listen when we come back. I found a pretty interesting article regarding history and more recent players or current players, players who would like to have played with somebody of
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