Everybody. It is x'es and bros. Here on the Michigan Sports Network, Matt Shepherd's off for this holiday weekend. I'm Gonnas fifth, the in coming in off the bench, ready to fire and ready to go. Let's dive right into it. It is Lions front and center. And the question to you, is a super Bowl or bus this season for the Lions? That was the question post to Detroit Lions head coach yesterday Dan Campbell. He says
he doesn't see bust, he sees super Bowl. What about you? What about you sports fans when it comes to the Lions, do you consider it a super Bowl or bus type situation? Now, joining us is easy. You dial in eight sixty six eight three eight forty eight forty three. That's the Meyer hotline eight six six eight three eight forty eight forty three. I'd love to hear from a first timer. Heck, since I've only done a few shows, everybody that calls for me is a first timer, So I
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to one. The Jay's pound them elsewhere in the playoffs. Dallas takes a one zero lead in the Western Finals, they get a Connor McDavid goal in double overtime. They beat Dallas three to two. The Boston Celtics go up two to oh in the Eastern Conference Final. They went by sixteen at the Garden last night. Tyrese Haliburton from the Pacers pulls a hammy and leaves in the third quarter in a big question mark next to Halliburton status for Game three
obviously something to monitor. We've got Panthers Rangers Game two tonight, Game two, MAVs t. Wolves, all of that out there. Pistons hiring Trajan Langdon as president of Basketball ops and he'll be calling the shot. Let's talk last hour about what he needs to do in the first order of business when it comes down to it. Now, the Lions made the NFC Championship Game last year, and the town, the state is on fire. Everyone has Lions fever and the only prescription is a super Bowl to get it done.
And so yeah, the first thing you want to say is yes, and is super Bowl or bus for this team? And the super Bowl for this team is achievable, but it doesn't necessarily have to be this upcoming season. Now, it would be great you know, for years it was suggested it would be talked about. I couldn't handle it talking about the Lions and the Super Bowl, that these two things didn't fit and it didn't matter. People would still say, could you just imagine what it would be like if the
Lions won the Super Bowl? A? Yeah, can you imagine if I won the lie? You know, like, sure, yeah, it would be great. But we just we had the experience last year of somewhat of what it would be like, and everybody for years to say, oh, it'd pale in comparison to the Wings and the Pistols. If the Alliance want it, just the way everybody would go and the way everybody would act.
And then I always thought that, you know, dealing with Detroit sports fans, that Detroit sports fans would be that'd be all upset if they made the Super Bowl, about the national media not giving them credit, talking about the other teams, somebody taking a shot at Detroit City, all those things that you know that happened over the years, and it wouldn't be about actual alliance.
I couldn't have been more wrong about that. Last year during their run, they were the darling of the NFL and they deserved all of the credit that they were getting. They have put together an incredible team built inside out, with their calling card being a tremendous offensive line. But they can get you through the air, they can do it on the ground, and now thinking about where they needed to improve, they've popped the hood on the defense
and they've gone to work there. So you should feel great about the chance. But the run last year, it was it was better than I even thought that I could have imagined, and I heard everybody talk about how greaty it was going to be. But the win over the Rams was the most incredible game that I've ever seen from the Lions, most exciting, most intense,
and the greatest in Lions history, at least in my lifetime. And they followed it up with another win, and then at halftime I do remember saying and even tweeting out, the Lions look super but they've got one half to go and we know what happened there. But the Lions have a window. But this doesn't sound as nice. The Lions have a shot, I would think, in three years to get this done. So it's a is
it a three year or bus type proposition that sounds a little bit. I don't know if it sounds a vanilla easy cop out, lazy whatever he could say there put the pressure on him for this year. I do think though, you know, we come up with a different scenarios. Let's just have a scenario. I think that the Lions will win eleven games this year. They're over and under his ten and a half. I think they're going over. I think that they're going to win the North. I think they're gonna
win a playoff game. I think that they'll get to the NFC Championship game. This is how I'm thinking right now. But let's say they you know, they wont a home playoff game, and then in the divisional round they lost, I don't know, by a point to the Eagles or something like that thirty one thirty incredible game they lose, would it mean that that the Lions are a bust, that the Lions have gone back to be in the same old Lions, not the new Lions. They wouldn't mean that. Now.
There are plenty of scenarios where you could say that they could fall back, and there's going to be a lot of fans because they're just used to it with their entire life. For their entire life of the team performing like they have previous to last year, that they are going to have to fight that fight the expectations of the fans. So you understand the question when it is presented about being super Bowl at bust or super Bowl or bust Now.
Dan Campbell, in addition to saying that he doesn't see bust or super Bowl, talked about the Lions at this point. He singled out a most improved player and it was Jamison Williams, the twelfth pick of the draft a couple years ago. I want to talk about him straight ahead. How much are you accounting on Jamison Williams? What are your expectations for Jamison Williams? When you hear Dan Campbell saying, I mean the hype train, jump aboard Jamison
Williams most improved player for the Lions. What's that mean? We'll explore that straight ahead. X'es and Bros. And the Michigan Sports Network. We're teaming off our tenth year at the Meyer LPGA Classic for simply gives get ready for the best who are yet to help neighbors in need while enjoying golf, food and family fun. Join us June thirteenth through the sixteenth Old Country Club for fabulous food, discoveryland for kids, and of course elite women golfers from around
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your expectations for the Lions wide receiver? Dan Campbell says he's the most improved player right now. What does that mean to you? I take it for what it is. Give me your expectations for the Lions wide receiver. Eight six six eight three eight forty eight forty three. That's the mayor hotline for you to join us. Eight six six eight three eight forty eight forty three. You could text sports Radio one word to twenty one thousand to get in
and get that prompt and let it fly there. We'd love to hear from you on that situation. When it comes down to the Lions. In the eight o'clock hour at eight thirty five, we will talk with a Hall of famer in the baseball writing business. Eight thirty five for that Tigers get blown out. They lost five in a row. They lose nine to one to Toronto. They're ten games back. Silver linings from yesterday is that they play again today, all right. So that's where it's at for me. When
it comes to Jamison Williams. You know, his first year he was hurt and the Alliance moved up to get him, and there are a bunch of wide receivers that were picked right there. The Lions picked twelve, and there were a few that were picked in front of them, Drake London for one, a Lave for New Orleans for another one. And then was that last year he got the gambling suspension and it felt like you can't tell you drafted it when he was hurt. So you can't say, well, your best
availability is availability. You know all that. There's the cliches that you hear, but then I don't know how you look shooting yourself at the foot and taking yourself off the field with the suspension. But you thought it was stupid or not. It was a little stupid, a little stupid from him, little stupid from the league, you know, to suspend him with everything else. And then you would watch him and at times he would flash the ability where you saw like, now we know why this guy is now we know
why this guy was picked in the first round. Now we see that this guy, you know, could be a difference maker out of the field. But as many times as you saw that from him, you saw plays where they would throw them the ball and he would just absolutely cold drop it. And for most of the season last year it looked more like if you had to push all in at different times on him being a bust or him being a star, you were pushing it towards being a bust. Another drop from
Williams, I mean it was it's there, it's front and center. You know that. But then there are a few the game where he took the end around and went flying into the end zone. This is why it's tantalizing
to me. Sometimes I'll just see one play from a player and it's one of those that whether it makes you jump out of your seat, or your just eyes open a little bit wider and you just see the talent and on that particular run and jump into the end zone, I saw something that in a league of incredible players and incredible talent and awesome athletes, I saw like a one percent at the very top of all of that. That's what I saw with the ability from Jamison Williams. So you want to do, obviously
everything you can to be able to get the most out of him. I think at first I thought, well, would I take double the production? Is that fair? Well? The production wasn't all that great last year, So before you would answer that, last year he caught twenty four passes for over three hundred and fifty yards and had just two scores. So would I take forty eight catches over seven hundred yards and four tens from Jamison Williams this
year? I would like some more scores honestly with that, but knowing the Lions roster and knowing what this team has, I would take that. And Jamison Williams is in a great position. He's not someone that gets out there. Even if he came out and you know, dropped a few passes off the bat and I had everybody like h guy's a bust again. Dan Campbell saying, you know, he's the most improved player at OTAs, and he's a man on the mission, A man on a mission. You love to
hear that. There's no doubt about that. It's not like when somebody says, hey, what do you think about Jamison Williams and Dan Campbell says, well, he's got a lot of work to do. We're, you know, we're happy with his progress. It's a pretty bland type statement. Dan Campbell saying he is a man on a mission and that he is the most improved player at OTAs. Yeah, when you are like me and you watched the Lions last year and you watch this guy fly through the air and look
like Superman when he has the ball in his hands. He's the kind of guy that if you are thinking about winning a Super Bowl, He's the kind of weapon teams have where other fans around the league are watching and say, we need a guy that's explosive like that. This guy's a difference maker. He has got that in him, and he is in the perfect situation.
He's got a quarterback that can deliver the ball. He has an offensive line with a complimentary running game, and then when you go through the weapons on offense at receiver, Amanas Brown is a wide receiver one he is one of the better widest. Why it's got rewarded with the gigantic contract, he is one of the better wide receivers in the NFL. Sam Laporta is the best tight end. I have to apologize to Travis Kelson. I'm not apologed.
Sam Laporta is one of the best tight ends and he's only in his second year. One of the best wide outs on the other side, with Saint Brown, the best or one of the best tight ends, if not the best, one of the best is being conservative offensive lines. Same thing with their their their running backs. No, I don't think David Montgomery's the best running back in the NFL. I think that's Christian McCaffrey. But do I think that the combination of Jamiir Gibbs and David Montgomery is one of the best
backfields in the NFL. Absolutely, This could be the best offense in the NFL. What would have to happen, Well, you know, Golf could deliver the ball he gets the time, you've got the tandem at running backs, you just talked about Saint Brown and Laporta. These guys are proof of this is not a huge stretch an offensive line who actually didn't really stay healthy last year and was still effective. But you've seen the kind of talent they
have there. Williams is the piece that could take this to the next level. And the next level is being the best and most explosive offense in the NFL. Now that's where I'm sitting. How about you slamming down a little bit too much Honolulu bluekool Aid today? I want you you get your thoughts on that. We get some texts, we'll get to those straight ahead. Your expectations for Jamison Williams, who Dan Campbell says, is a man on
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an enjoyable Memorial Weekend. I think it's just getting started. We're just getting started here. I'm Dennis Fifthian in for Matt Shepherd. A couple of things I want to remind you about coming up. In ten minutes we continue the Lions conversation, but I'm going to talk about going all in on a trade and how you would feel about it. T Higgins an all in situation for the Lions. In ten minutes it leaves to explore that, and an hour from right now we will talk to Tom Gage, the long time almost forty
year Tigers beat writer. We will get to that in an hour from right now. Right now, we are discussing the Lions, and there's nothing If you are a Lions fan this morning and waking up and did not hear Dan Campbell yesterday, there's nothing that is going to light the fuse on off season expectations, excitement just take off to the moon that Dan Campbell coming out and saying Jamison Williams as a man on a mission, Jamison Williams has been our
best player in OTAs. That's what Dan Campbell and his grit had on had to say in front of the media yesterday to all of you Lions fans. So I'm asking you how much you're counting on Jamison Williams and your expectations I just say quickly before we go to the texts and the phones, that is so tantalizing to think about if you would be able to get the difference maker playmaker. He is the part. He is the piece that could take the Lions. I mean, we are looking at it. We have talked about
for our life. How do you get to the top and how do you win? You win with a great line, play, quarterback all over the field, but you win with difference makers and big time playmakers and Williams, although at times he's looked more like a bus than he has all of the things that I'm talking about, he possesses that it where he's just a stick of dynamite on the field ready to explode and be a difference maker for a team like the Detroit Lions who he's playing for. So that's it. Eight
six six eight three eight forty eight forty three on the Myer Hotline. That's how I think about it. We'll get through those texts Sports Radio one word to twenty one thousand. We go to Mark and gun Lake, who joined us on x'es and bros. Hey, good morning how you doing today?
Oh doing great? Thanks for calling in. Mark. I think coach Campbell is hitting around at using Jamison in some kick returns because if he's going to keep going for it on fourth down, I think he can get better field position if we got a punt returner or a kick returner to get that thing to midfield or maybe a little short of midfield, but if you can average well, when he scored that touchdown and in the playoffs, unfortunately we lost that game, but yeah, yeah, when he got through that line,
he broke a couple of tackles getting through there and up this balance, I'm thinking, man, this guy could probably return. So do you remember Mel Gray from the Lions back in the day. Yeah, I loved well Gray. Yeah, we all loved Bell Gray. So yeah, I think he I think he looks a lot like him with that acceleration and that speed and how he can return that ball. But let me ask you one more thing
and then I'll bounce off the line here. I've been watching some of the NBA playoffs and you talked earlier today about the Pistons, and I'm getting up maybe a different person in there to help the team win or win a few games. Anyways, these teams, these final four teams, these guys are gym rats. I mean, you can tell this is brutal basketball. These
guys are killing each other. They're running all over the place. They look totally different than the Pistons, and I think the Pistons got to spend a lot more time in the gym instead of figuring out why they're losing game is because these teams are running. I mean Indiana and Boston, that's all they seen. These guys do as that was run, they played defense, if someone was covered, they passed the ball. They share the ball a lot.
So I want to hear your thoughts on that, if you got a minute about talking about the Pistons just getting into that gym and and focusing on on being gym rats. I mean, they got to start. They got to start winning some games for people to go back down there. So I think you're doing a great job filling in for Chef. Thanks for taking my call. Now I'll listen off air here. Well, thanks Mark for calling. And yeah, I mean there's a stark contrast when you were watching these
playoffs and then you watch the Pistons during the year and the things. There's a lot of different things that jump out to me. One is that when you're you see a team like the Celtics, a starting five that there's just there's no everybody can do everything. And El Horford, who's actually uh, you know, backing up Porzingis while he heals up, could come back this
series. He can dial it in from downtown. Of course, they've got the one two combination of Brown and Tatum, but Drew Holliday is totally underrated. Derek White. I mean, they're coming at you from all five spots, and all five players can do everything that you want. When you look at the Pistons lineup, they don't have that Cuttingham can do it at all. Who else not many? They got other guys that need to work on they're all around games. To your point about getting into the gym, can
they develop? I think that Thompson, the rookie from last year, you know, he needs to develop clearly his offensive game, his outside shot, him being able to put it on the floor, take it. Ivy needs to work on his outside game. Isaiah Stewart has, but you know there's a sea with him. I also think there's a ceiling with Duran. But you can have like one guy like let's say it was a Sark Thompson.
They'd say, Okay, this is a project, but you can't have three guys four guys and you're starting lineup that have holes in their game like the Pistons do, or you're gonna end up seeing everybody in the standings. And that's where the Pistons are at. They look up and they see everyone, and I know it's easy to say, well, yeah, Boston, they have the best record in the league. They're gonna win the NBA Finals. How about the Pacers. Pacers seem like the same way. I don't know.
They you know, they got spicy p Siakam, who's awesome, who's going to be a free agent. Obviously Haliburton, which which burns me and should burn everyone as a Piston fan. Because it was only the twenty twenty NBA Draft, we only have to look back to then to feel like, oh, yeah, Anthony Edwards was taken number one by Minnesota James Wiseman, who is on this Piston team, but as a bust sitting there. But the Pistons took Killian Hayes at seven, and they were going after a point
guard. It was pretty clear that's what they needed for their team. At the time, the next point guard off the board was ty Reese Halliburton, killer for the Pistons. Oh yeah, Aaron Netsmith who is starting for the Pacers. He was also taking a few picks after Halliburton. And you look at the way he's been playing. It played great last night or nemhard. I mean there these are not players that are out there that are household names
that fit in though. That's the thing with the Pistons, just you you could have five moves like this, but just recently Halliburton over Killian Hayes, Donovan Mitchell going one pick after the Pistons, take Luke Canard, one little thing and this course of this uh franchise is going to be different. Instead, you know, they got enamored with the process and the multiple year tanks, which the next guy that comes into an NBA franchise and says, my
game plan is a multiple year tank. Not the owner. I was saying, you know, well, what do we do you do for thanks multiple year tank? The idea of the Detroit Pistons and they're Troy Weaver. Yeah, let's how about some texts. We get some time to squeeze some text here. Let's go to b z, it's ben zos. What are we looking at? This one is back to if it's Super Bowl or bus for
the Lions, trash Man says bust. He says Green Bay Packers are coming into Detroit round one of the playoffs and knocking us out and Thanksgiving too. Well, let's let's take that text right out to the trash No. You know, the Packers are there, and the Packers get their quarterback. And I was looking so closely at the Packers yesterday and all of their moves. Yeah, they they cut David Baktiari, their longtime tackle, and also moved
on from Aaron Jones. They're outstanding running back. But their replacements for those guys Josh Jacobs, and then they go to the draft and get Jordan Morgan. Yeah, the Packers aren't going anywhere the Lions and Packers is you know you're talking about them coming in and knocking them out of the playoffs and all those things. I see a split between the Lions and Packers this year. That is the most format team in the North that the Lions are gonna have
to deal with. But right now, the Lions, trash Man, they have more talent, they have a better team than the Green Bay Packers. You say, yeah, but the Lions defense really sucked last year, you know they they the pass a defense. Total defense was nineteenth. It's not like the Packers were sitting there as a top ten defense. The Packers were at sixteen pound for pound player for player from the Lions and Packers, I just complimented them. But the Lions have more talent and are the better team.
What else are we looking at? Ben? Yeah, it says a bust indicates that you have one shot at this. Detroit has a foundation and they have a window of time to hopefully have a couple cracks at the super Bowl. Just like Michigan was in the playoffs three times, it may take a few shots for Detroit as well. So it's not a bust, it's windows open and next. I take expectations are the super Bowl. I think that's what Dan meant. Dan very well thought through and excellent text texts.
More often, those are the kind that that that nail it right on the head. That's the thing college, you know, it could feel like a bus because you only have that that window with that team that year. That's the thing with the Lions that gives you so much hope last year when you look at it, you know, nobody would say, you know, we're not looking at it and say that was just a fluke. No, that doesn't It didn't seem like it was a fluke at all. They won twelve
games, They should have won more. They should have gone into the Super Bowl. I know, the second half and everything else, but we've gone through the position groups, I mean, the offense and then if you can add in the shooting star of Jamison Williams, you are really talking about something lethal on one side of the ball, and they do have that window. See how far that defense could take him on that. I love the text. Great, great job Dan. Are we going for more? Yeah?
We can do one. Do a couple more, one more, a couple more. Yeah, it says as we know in the NFL, nothing is a given. You have to earn every year and the Lions are no different. I am fired up and ready for the challenge. Let's go Lions. That's from Jyd and Kalamazoo. Well, j Yd, I'm right with you there, and we have a long time to burn between now and the start of the season. But that's it. This is off season and this is so much. Why I like, you know, now being as present as
I possibly can heading into this Memorial Weekend. All of the years prior in the it it's just felt like off season false hope, like why not us that kind of stuff. But now it's real. But you can look got you see it. You go through the roster, you look at the talent. You you know how this thing fits in. Obviously they have to go
out there like jyd to get the the job done. But yeah, they keep hammering that, no doubt what more and then we will uh get you ready straight ahead for the possibility of adding a big piece with this team. What's what's the last one we're gonna squeeze in here? Yeah, this is a question from Freddie. It says Dennis, if Dan Campbell was the manager of the Detroit Tigers, would they be in first place right now? This team plays like AJ talks like pain drying. Well, I'm gonna disagree with
you on AJ. Hintch you no, like do you want I think if Dan Campbell was down on the dugout, I like not like other folks. I don't mind once in a while a manager taking a bat rack and and you know, throwing it out on the field, or taking the cooler, or or spilling over the food spread in the locker room. I like that kind of thing once in a while. You can't just be crazy and do all of that. But I think that a J. Hinch is the least
of the problems. The problems you look at the players that they have acquired, especially the ones that they have acquired with the first overall pick on the draft. You're expecting these guys like of Paul Skeens, who's going to be pitching for He pitched last night, He's going to be pitching Wednesday afternoon at America Park. He was taking out one one. So is Casey Mice Skeens.
Right now as being talked about, oh, you had seen a guy like this since Strasburg, who was also taken as the first pick overall. Strasburg won a World Series. You're hoping that you get a Strasburg or Skeens when you take a number one like that, or Torque who was also taken at one one. You're thinking about I don't know, Bryce Harper who was
taken at that spot. These are the reasons that the Tigers are where they're at, and also their owner, who is just tiptoeing and is very much the opposite of his dad, who was consumed with the challenge of getting the Tigers to the postseason and trying to win a World Series. Chris Ilich comes
off as somebody who is the exact opposite of that. It happens, it happens, but it seems like he is much more concerned with the bottom line and how much money that they're and every other you know, position that he has. Uh. And it's not about being consumed at all about the Tigers with a winner. But Hinch is the least of the tigers problems. He's actually something they have that is going for him. If I was putting together a ledger, all right, we uh will continue on coming up at eight
oh one. I was getting into if the Lion's been making the case for them going all in on a big time trade, and we will get to that at eight oh one. The name T. Higgins doesn't get any bigger than that. Now we're talking about an outstanding wide receiver and Jamison Williams an absolute star, and Higgins he wants out. Would that be an all in more? Could you even think about that as a Lions fan? That will lead us off. We'll get to some baseball coming up. At eight thirty
five, Tom Gage will join us. We'll ask him if aj Hinch is a problem, as Freddie suggests via the text. All right, so it is Memorial weekend. We've got an hour to go. We are going to bring it and we'll continue hitting on these on these lions. And we've got that Tiger's talk as well. I'm Dennis Fifthyan ben Zost is here as well, fielding your calls, reading your texts. Matt Sheppard enjoying hopefully his holiday weekend. He's working all weekend. He's getting who it's actors and bros and
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