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Should Goff get an extension, and where would you rank Jared Goff amongst the other quarterbacks.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All Writy seven o'clock hour, exuson Bros and the Michigan Sports Network. Dennis Fifthian in for Matt Shepherd's great to be here with you as we forge ahead on this Friday. Get you ready for this standing weekend in the state of Michigan. Yeah, we're talking about the Detroit Tigers and the Detroit Lions, and I'll get you some questions on both of those teams. And if you know the numbers and you got the text, you could jump in on those

right away. Also, Capan, you have to speak and we've got along with the open line of for you, I'm saying open topics. If you're somebody that's interested in what's going on on the ice or the hard wood in the NBA and NHL playoffs, you can jump in on that. Where last night you had the Rangers winning in overtime again they won the other night and double overtime last night. Just an ot penerin with the winner of the Rangers have a three to zero lead over the Canes and the Blue Shirts are seven

to zero in the playoffs. In the nightcap, Dallas got out to a four zip lead. They hang on to a five to three victory and they tie up their series with the Avs. The Stars do at one game a piece, and then in basketball, the Calves lose Game one against the Celtics by twenty five points. Cleveland comes back, turns the tables on Austin wins by twenty four. Last night, Cleveland shoots well from downtown Boston does not,

that series is tied at one. And then late night in Okac look at Doncic limped around to a twenty nine to ten and seven stat line as the MAVs were able to even up their series with Oka See by winning by nine. So that's the way it goes in the playoffs right now. A lot of different things that you could jump on if you're so inclined on the basketball and hockey side. Now at the first hour, I asked you what

the biggest question mark for the Detroit Lions is heading into the summer. And the answer Jared Goff and when and if and when the Lions signed him to this gigantic extension. Brad Holme was the Lions GM yesterday, says he's earned it, golf has. He also said it's a high priority and he said he would like to have had it done a couple of weeks ago along with

Sewell and Saint Brown. Are you buying that? I think he's trying to bide his time so they can look at their third round pick from a couple of years ago, Hendon Hooker, and seeing if that can get involved with the negotiations, and would they really play it out with a last year on his deal, thinking that, oh, if it works well, great, we could just always make that decision, or we could just put the franchise tag on him. I don't like the idea of the franchise tag on Jared

Goff. It protects the Lions with some guaranteed money, but also it's the way that they have it going right now. I think that they'll find a way to get this deal now a couple minutes. In a couple minutes, I'll ask you and I'll tell you what I think where Jared Golf should be ranked with other NFL quarterbacks. But I'm going to ask you what you think an acceptable rating is for Golf and I'll give you that ranking myself at seven

nineteen as I went through that exercise. As I was driving around yesterday ranking the NFL quarterbacks, it is that time of year, and I'll see if you find it acceptable. That's an acceptable ranking, but I'll give you that one. Coming up at seven nineteen, we talk about the Tigers and we ask you how you feel about them? The number eight sixty six, eight three eight forty eight forty three across Michigan on the Meyer Hotline with the open

topics for you eight eight three eight four eight four three. Also looking for those techs you tech sports radio to twenty one thousand. You get that prompt and then you shoot something out to talk about here on x'es and bros. Now. I put a tweet out about the Tigers, and I said it last hour home. It's not exciting when I ask somebody says, hey, how are you feeling about the Tigers? Got those Detroit City connect jerseys at the Astros coming in, they're above five hundred. How you feeling well?

After losing two of three to the Guardians, not so hot. I feel lukewarm after getting swept by the Yankees in the Bronx at a one two, three run game. Lukewarm with this team. I put that tweet out and Derek says he's seen nothing to suggest this team has improved at all. From last season. If anything, the offense and their young core pieces have regressed, save Riley Green. I got CW responding as I just put that tweet out saying they could draft and develop a team full of superstars, it won't

matter. They'll all be Yankees or Dodgers when they become free agents. Baseball needs a salary cap. H that's not happening. And I get the pessimism about if you have a good player, they're all just going to end up a big market team. And man, if I was sitting over here, I guess I gotta go back twenty when Mike Ilitch was alive, I would say that's not happening. Mike Ilitch is not letting Riley Green, for instance,

leave town just for the big money of New York or LA. But you could say, yeah, we're not dealing with Mike, We're dealing with Chris. And the pessimism, as I went over in the first hour, the overall trust and the Tigers owner Chris Ilitch is it's very low. He had shown it's next to nothing. Might be a little bit harsh, but you know, because he did he did get a J. Green, I mean a J. Hinch. Nice to bring in aj Green in his prime to a lineiss a wide receip but no, but Hinch, that's what he's

got. Anything else not really. So that's where it's at when it comes down to it. Now, these uh, these Connect jerseys. When I first saw them, I thought, well, there'll be a ton of Tiger fans who will buy these up if the if the team comes limping home and they're this is before the season, you know, I knew they were going to be one of the teams that are gonna have these alternate jerseys, these

city Connect jerseys. Say well, you know they'll if the Tigers are doing good and they look good, you know people will be snapping those up. And that they're just a little bit above five hundred and one game. I have seen mixed reviews of these Connect jerseys, and the people will people will be buying these things up. Now. You know, you get a hat that says Detroit Me and you could have gone out there, the two of us, and we could have put together our jerseys and people would say,

oh, we hate them, but then they would snap them up. That's kind of what I look. I don't know they they put the creative minds behind these, But they're a little bit like the tea. I'd give them a little bit above lukewarm because people like new things. They get that, and they are new and they had they don't look anything like what the Tigers have going, So a little bit better than luke warm. Woul the city connect Jerseys when it comes down to it, all right, so we get

some Tigers, we got some Lions. Where what'd you rank Jared Goff with the other NFL quarterbacks. I've got that answer. We'll see if that is acceptable to you. So as a Lion fan, straight ahead here on X's and Bros. On the Michigan Sports Network. Bill Simonson Here from my good friend Josh Garvey. Now he's a managing shareholder at Dorn Mayhew's Grand Rapids office. Their world headquarters are in Troy, Michigan, on the east side of

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You have ben Zos producing this show, and we're looking for your calls. As we talked a little bit about the Lions and their quarterback position, and we've talked about some Tigers. You can jump in on either of those two items, or if there's something off the board, like in the playoffs that you wanted to touch on, I'm all ears the number eight sixty six eight three, eight four eight four three. That's the Meyer hotline. Open topics on that eight six six eight three, eight four eight four three.

Use that text. I like the text you texts Sports Radio to twenty one thousand, and you can get your thoughts in that way and they are appreciated. Now, give me the weather like it is right now, forties at night, sixties during the day. Now, if I could bump it up a little bit, high forties, high sixties, I would take that all the time. Well in a groove right now, I'm loving it in terms

of the weather. Let's go now the playoffs. Last night, on the basketball side, you had the Cavs evening up their series at one game piece, beating the Celtics in Boston by twenty four points, and then you had the MAVs taking down the Thunder in OKC by nine points and evening up that series at one game apiece, and hockey the stars like the MAVs and also the Calves. They evened up their series with the Avs by downing the Colorado

Avalanche five to three. And it doesn't fit the tied up series or anything else, but the Rangers they win in overtime again over the Hurricanes, three to two. I've watched those last two games, and when you would look at you'd say, well, what's been the best series in the Stanley Cup playoffs so far? It's actually been the Rangers and the Canes. You wouldn't think that if you're just looking at the numbers, but then you say, oh yeah, two double over, two overtime games, one double overtime game,

and man, it's the great thing. And then also the frustrating thing about hockey these last two games, the Canes have been the better team the majority of the time and they have just not been able to They've been shut out on the power play. And then the great equalizer, as we all know in goal Shasterkin, he's not gonna he's not losing four games in a row. I'll guarantee that, oh boy, I'll guarantee that Igor Shasterkin isn't

losing four games in a row for the Rangers. But that's been a very entertaining series, although that's only been a couple in the history of the NHL where you've seen a team come back from three to zero. And I just made that guarantee that it's not happening. What would I do if it happened. Uh, I would have to I would have to take some recommendations on that. I don't put out many guarantees, but I feel pretty safe in that one. Even though the Canes they've all been one goal games and two

of them have been in overtime, and Carolina looks pretty good. I just I feel pretty good about the guarantee, all right, So an acceptable ranking for Jared Goff. I ranked the first thing. It was just perusing yesterday and I came upon a post draft quarterback power ranking and it was on CBS and I had never heard of the author. Cody Benjamin is his name from CBS Sports. But I'm like, well, let's see. I thought,

well, where's he going to have golf after the draft? And so I went in there, and I said, mahomes at one, All right, brock Party number two? What brock Party? It caught my attention. Now, you see a lot of rankings of quarterbacks pretty much by every service or any person that's following the NFL. Covering the NFL, you're gonna do that, just like a power rankings for the teams post draft, all of it.

But when I saw brock Party, I stopped and said, well, this guy, this guy must be one's forty nine er guy too, trying to just you know, create some controversy. And I just stopped at that. And but as I was driving around yesterday I kept coming back to it. I'm like, how could anybody in the right mind covering the NFL put brock Party ranking quarterbacks as the number two quarterback heading into the twenty twenty four

season, Just driving around mad at this writer. But then as I was driving, I was thinking about then Jared Goff and where I would put him in a ranking, and thinking about that cap number and if it gets close to fifty million, how that's going to hurt the Lions and the other areas

unless they draft really well, continue to draft really well. And then I thought, well, maybe this guy is looking at the Brock pretty cap number, and that's why he's putting Party number two, because that's a pretty nice situation if you're looking at making fifty million dollars a year for these quarterbacks that are up towards the top, or if you're Brock Party and your cap number is one million dollars or two million dollars over the next two years, you've

got fifty million to play with if you're the forty nine ers, And you could say, well, that's why you would rank him number two. And I thought, maybe this guy that I completely dismissed looking at his rankings, upon further review, I thought, maybe this guy's pretty sharp. Well, he was writing why he had the rankings of the of the quarterbacks. It wasn't just I mean, you could just rank them, fine, but then

you can also put your reasoning under anyth sense. He had reasoning, and I thought for sure he was going to say, well, with Rock Party, me and mister irrelevant, and you're paying him peanuts for the next two years. This is a great situation. That's why I've got him number two. I thought that was going to be the reasoning, and I thought, oh, excellent, but he didn't put that at all in there, so

then so I don't know. So I came back to my original thought, where this guy doesn't know what he's doing, putting Brock party number two. Now, all of that being said, as I was ranking the quarterbacks, I said, I figured that with the realization or the thought that you must include how much you're paying this quarterback to put him in a ranking. And then when I had Goff where I was going to fit him in, I would say, would I trade this quarterback right now with their contract for Jared

Goff? So those were my parameters as I went through it, and like everyone, I put Mahomes two and then I think the next three Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen two three four. That's the way I ranked him. If you wanted to say you thought Josh Allenen it would be two or Lamar would be two. You know, I'm not gonna kill anybody for that. It's subjective. I put Joe Burrow too because he's had success

the Bengals have against the Chiefs. That's why I did it. Lamar was the MVP, Josh Allen's pretty good, and then so five six, I went with Jalen Hurts. I think what we've seen from him and the team that he has around him, how the offense is built for him. At five, I've got Stroud after his outstanding year, plus he gets Steph Diggs Stefan Diggs. I put him at six. So those are the top six. So then i put Jordan Love at seven. And that's where I'm gonna

ask you. You're a Lions fan, can you admit or do you think that this is not acceptable? Of having Jordan Love in front of Jared Goff and a quarterback ranking. I got Justin Herbert at eight, also in front of Jared Goff. I've got Matt Stafford in front of Jared Goff's I'll put those three guys right there. Acceptable or not as a Lion fan, Love, Herbert, and Stafford ranked above Jared Goff heading into the season. That's out there for you. I'll give you the rest where Goff ended up landing

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on Exies and Bros. On the Michigan Sports Network on this Friday as we get your ready for the weekend. You know, it's always a great time being on. And thanks to Matt Shepherd for letting me pinch hit for him this Friday. A couple of weeks ago, I was in for sheperone in the NFL Draft. But you know, being on on a Friday, it's always great, like I said, to be on. But then, let me just think about your regular sports fan in the state of Michigan, mondays,

you kind of understand. Hell, you gotta put that brave face on and get into work with Friday Staring at a weekend in the spring in Michigan at this time of year, it's, uh, you know, you feel pretty good. I gotta imagine we'll get you ready for that. Now. We've talked about some uh some baseball. Actually, we got all four food groups going for you. We've got the the playoffs in basketball and hockey,

and what's going on there. Last night you had Cleveland and Dallas winning on the hardwood, and then on the ice, Dallas and the New York Rangers getting the victories. And as always, I will dive into those anything that's you know, you're thinking about when it comes to the playoffs. So then you know the Tigers, I'm going to get into your feels. I've asked for your feeling the Tigers, but we'll get back to the Tigers at eight

oh one. I'll give you my feeling the Tigers, and we'll get your feeling on the Tigers so far, and then how you feel for the rest of the year. Right now, we're talking about the Lions and their biggest question mark heading into the summer, Jared Goff and what they're going to do at the quarterback position with signing him to the extension if we can all agree

that it's going to happen and that it should happen. And then I started ranking the qbs yesterday and I got Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar, and Josh Allen one through four. I think there's the tier Mahomes and a tier by himself, and then Burrow, Jackson and Allen and their tier, and then this next tier, I got Jalalen Hurts and CJ. Stroud thinking those through, and I think there's much controversy. You're a Lions fan in here, an NFL fan, maybe you want to put somebody in there in this top

six. I don't know. I don't know how you can. But now you get to where it's a lot more subjective and how you're just feeling about it when you watch these qbs and when you watch these teams, and your fandom probably gets into it a little bit. And that's where Jordan Love comes in to play. The quarterback from the Packers. I ranked them at seven heading into this season, and I ask you, as a Lion fan, do you think that's an acceptable ranking. I get say Jared Goff as a

better quarterback than Jordan Love. You can say that he's more proven golf, went to a Super Bowl, he went to the NFC Championship Game last year. We know that. That could be your argument. My argument could be that Love coming on as this first time starter and what we have seen from him and how he was improving, and what we saw from him in the second half of last season. Now, if I put the fan card into play a little bit here, I don't want to see Jordan love have success.

The Green Bay Packers. I've been the bane of my existence since I've been alive, and certainly with Rogers and farm over the last twenty years. I was looking forward to the Packers going through it and searching for the quarterback. But it appears that they. You know, when I watched Love Man, okay, what's the hell of a lot? Like Aaron Rodgers, and he had a nice postseason, and with his age, that's where I would put him. I would put him in front of golf. And I say,

it's not like I'm really down on Jared Goff. Jared Goff, if you have and what he has, which is an excellent offensive line, maybe the best offensive line in the NFL. You have a weapons of plenty, Laporta, a Mono, Saint Brown, You're like, just look at it. He's got that and oh yeah, a quarterback's best friend next to the offensive line, a potent running game and it won two punts. I mean,

this is great, What a great situation. If you're Jared Goff, you're about to just get married, or he's getting ready to get married, he's about to sign another gigantic deal and he's just got the perfect situation all around him, and oh yeah, the fans love him. But I asked myself, would I take these qbs in my own rankings over golf? And I would take love. And I also would take Justin Herbert from the Chargers.

Stafford who was traded for Jared Goff now Jared Goff head to head beat Matt Stafford last year in the most entertaining to me, the greatest Lions playoff game that I've ever seen, and it closed the victory over the Cowboys back in the nineties. And I'm not going back to fifty seven. That's before my time, but that was the greatest game. And this does it matter? They had the head a little bit, but I would still at thirty

six a little bit of a nod to the veteran Matt Stafford. I have him ranked at nine and Trevor Lawrence now Trevor Lawrence has has he been a disappointment since being selected number one overall? It certainly doesn't have the success in the playoffs that golf has had. But would you make that trade if you could, if it all worked out, what would you actually make that deal? I think I would would make that deal. You might not like that.

That's where that question comes in. Is this acceptable as a Lion's fan? If you're taking a look at it of putting Trevor Lawrence in front of Jared Goff, does that make you mad? I know this one I think can make you mad because I put I ended up putting Golf at twelve, and so I put Dak Prescott in front of him. Dak also, you know, he has not had the the moments in the postseason. I look at his play. I think he's just I mean, they're right there.

I think Dak's just a little bit and a little bit more mobile as a QB. I Prescott's a smidge better than Jared Goff, So I put him at twelve. That's how I I've ranked them. Now, I put Aaron Rodgers behind Jared Goff. And could you make an argument that Aaron Rodgers at forty years old coming off a and achilles, No, I don't. You could try to make that now. I would say that if the Jets they got into the season, this is you know, it's always a fluid situation.

If I if Rogers comes out and plays the first few games and looks like he did just a couple of years ago when he went back to back MVPs. Well, you could say, yeah, but we're talking about right here and right now and how we're ranking them. So that's where I have the ranking. Is that acceptable to you? How do you see that? When it comes down to the Lions and just the quarterbacks around the league. It's eight six six eight three eight forty eight three on the Meyer Hotline eight

sixty six eight three eight four eight four three. We have open topics and you can also text in Tech Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. You can get your thoughts in that way as we have it set up for you on the Lions, and coming up at eight oh one, we get back to your fields with the Tigers as they bring the Astros in and they've got their their city connect jerseys and all that. All right. When I look at the NHL and NBA playoffs, I wanted to ask this question across the state

of Michigan. You have Anthony Edwards emerging through these playoffs as not only a superstar, are but potentially the next face of the league. A little bit premature, but they're up to to oh two games away from the Western Finals. Obviously he is you put him into a great category, superstar category, and it just happens. You knew that. I mean, the guy was the number one overall pick and you saw his talent. But it's even blossomed,

even quicker than I think most people expected. So he's sitting there. But my question is for the state of Michigan or Piston fans, and when it comes down to the great players over the last thirty years, it's no argument. You've you've probably heard this argument. Is it Jordan or Lebron that

particular argument, but those are the two. But for Piston fans, out of any fans in all of basketball, certly fans in the NBA, the least amount of credit goes to Jordan and Lebron because you know you're a Pistons fan and those were your biggest rivals. The bad Boys had to hold off Jordan and Piston fans rightfully so were ticked off. Pistons were playing a brand of basketball of swarming, suffocating defense, one of the best defensive teams ever,

and man, you go back where they won back to back. But you could easily talk about not throwing the ball away to Berg. You could easily talk about a phantom foul against Lamb, another trip to the finals, maybe another championship, he'd be talking about one of the greatest teams. But holding off Jordan after that, and Jordan used to you know, he he's just everyone in the league was just, you know, smitting, Oh my

god, this guy's the most he's the greatest. He's defying and all of that, except Piston fans were like, yeah, he's getting these a cry baby, he gets too many calls. Uh. And you understand that a little bit of the same thing with Lebron James. Guys in high school, he's the chosen one. Of course, he goes to his hometown close enough to his hometown from Akron to the Calves, and you know he's and he takes off, wins the championships and we know the story. But the Pistons

had to deal with him again, just like they did with Jordan. I remember being in the building. What was it. It was the Eastern Conference finals, and I mean the turning point when it came down to the going to Pistons, going to work Pistons. Lebron scores did he did? He score twenty five straight, twenty nine of the thirty points in the fourth quarter. Everybody, even you know, even you know you're sitting there with the Piston fans in the crowd, and everybody's just like, not you can do.

You're throwing up your hands. But you still like Jordan, not giving him like the credit. But now you have Edwards. He's not you know, an already goes Georgia, so in go to school from around here, he goes out to the Western Conference. There's no history with the Timberwolves. Timberwolves have did really no history. You can go back when they were there. They had some success where they had KG, they had a year maybe.

But the point is now you've got to fairly look at without having the rival stuff with with Lebron and with MJ and you can say, hey, here's this uh, this great player. And I'm asking you when it comes down to it, how are you looking at Edwards and the chance for him to take over, grab the torch and be this uh the next one? I think it's good do is for the NBA myself, Nothing against Doncic, nothing against anybody else, the big Dancing Bay in Denver, great player,

two MVPs championships and everything else. But you just don't as a American sports fan, you just don't gravitate to those guys like you do. An American just say that's the way it is, that's where the popularity is. It's a little bit like show Hey, if Shotan was you know, Show Smith from Indiana, we might spend every show every day talking about how great this guy, and it gets brought up how great he is, but most people are like, Okay, it's great. It's a great pitcher, he's great

hitter, greatest players. It's Babe Ruth. And then it's kind of it we're witnessing in baseball. But if he was an American born out of Indiana, we would I don't know, it would be it would be talked about and the popular it would be exponentially more. But that's what we're getting with

with Edwards. Get your thoughts in on that one as well. At eight six six eight three, eight forty eight forty three, as we take you through and get you to the weekend here across the state of Michigan, I got to tell you that something happened yesterday for me that it's just it was pure joy. I've been dealing with this shoulder injury and I've been doing some stretching with it. A couple of weeks ago, I was back in the

gym and I was just gonna shoot some baskets. Nobody was in there, and I fired up and it'd been a while since I had thrown up some jumpers and I and I threw one up and the pain in my shoulder was there. And it just couldn't have if somebody would have had a camera on me. The body language and it just saw me with my head down, you know, hunched over. Just a huge disappointment. Tried it again, like it just I could barely even get a shot up. Total disappointment.

But then yesterday the same thing, and you know, the shoulders just deal with it, trying to work with it. I fired one up and I was like, oh my gosh, no pain, and I fired a other one. Fifteen minutes went by of me shooting and it was just pure joy. And the shot wasn't going in as much as I would like, But then anytime, and to fire it up there and watch it just go through the hoop, it was. It was great. So a very good feeling

of pure joy of sports that happened with me yesterday. Now that's me getting into my feelings. I want to get your feeling the Tigers so far as they come home limp home after their their series against the Guardians. How are you feeling so far about this team? How you feel about the rest of the year. We've got the Lion stuff out there. You've got hockey and

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