Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man, I'm forty. Go ahead, make my day every single week. I put my freaking heart and soul into this. I don't go out there and laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's funny to me. I don't wanna go out there and get embarrassed on Monday night football. For everybody, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. So I ain't nothing changed from yesterday. Still the same person I was yesterday, and I got the same
thing for you that I had yesterday. You know why I'm here. You play to win the game. You don't play to just play it. That's a great thing about sports. You play to win, and I don't care if you don't have any witch. You go play to win. When you start telling me it doesn't matter to retire, get out because the matter that's right. It is six h two here on this Friday, June the fourteenth, Dennis fitting an inn for Matt Shepherd on Axis and Bros. It's great
to be here on the Michigan Sports Network. I'm pinch hitting, I think, but the six to seventh time that I've been able to put this headset on and talk into the mic along with the ben who's producing, and take you into the weekend. Most of the times it has been on a Friday, and you know Fridays. Not to get too repetitive of what I say, but I don't like everyone. Most of everyone, it's my favorite day of the week. And so here we go heading into a Father's Day weekend.
That's gonna be one of the themes today. I'm gonna get to some sweeps here in this first segment. And if you are a football fan, I am looking ahead to the seven o'clock hour and I am going to zero in on the NFC North, and I'm thinking about the Lions, and I'm thinking about the Packers. And I will ask you I found filling in a
few times that not everyone out there is a Detroit Lions fan. But it feels like if you're not a Detroit Lions fan and you're listening, you're a Green Bay Packers fan or a Chicago Bears fan, which works nicely if you want to talk about the NFC North. But the Lions are the champs, and we'll just see how nervous, how scared you are about the Green Bay
Packers for this upcoming season for the Lions. Maybe you're just sitting out there with your chest out and you're thinking, no, I think that's actually where the majority of the right lying fans or at. But we'll get to that coming up. I I'll get to it. Give you my thoughts on how scared I am of the packers in an hour from right now. But you know, heading into this Father's Day, I also wanted to ask the folks
out there if you think back, sometimes dads are funny. You know, they've they've got You can go on the internet and are you they I know because I got a book myself over the last few years of you know, Father's Day saying, you know Father's Day, you know your dad will have these, you know, silly things that he say. Well, we all do those, so we all get into there and and and have our own sayings. But if you had any special one that you think that the audience
would like, I would like to hear from you on that. This morning, I'll give you an example. We know the US Open is going on. I know shep was out at the golf course. I was just listening to a huge talk about eating lobsters, getting in line and sounded like he was out at the golf course worse as well, out there in West Michigan. And whenever I would play golf and I would get mad, my dad
would say, Dennis, what I tell you about getting mad? You are not good enough get mad, and which would kind of make me mad. So I had to play with an even keel. You know, you play with people, get upset. It's a frustrating game. But he repeatedly. And now that I was thinking about, what was What did my own dad
say over the years that would be interesting or funny. Most of them had to do with golf, but that was the one that actually and I still think about that one whenever I get out there and hit a good shot that I'm sitting out there perfectly, and then I just, you know, kick one really bad. I say, you know, it's not gonna be mad. I'm not good enough. I am not good enough to be bad. Now you know how good I would have to be before I would get mad.
You know, we never got to that point. I don't play that often, so it still fits to this day. I'm not good enough to get mad playing golf. It's my father's day. Twenty twenty four, saying to you, if you're a golfer, if you've got one of those, you can get in on that. I want to get to what happened last night in sports, and I watched the majority of Game three of the Stanley Cup Finals up there in Edmonton and Florida hangs on. They went at four
to three over Edmonton. So the Florida Panthers are one went away from their first Stanley Cup ever. Now they're in position to sweep Edmonton as they're up three to go. And as you probably know, the Celtics tonight can close out the Dallas Mavericks in Big d and they can sweep and it happens. But it has not happened in the both NHL and NBA playoffs where the finals has been swept since nineteen ninety five, so it has been a while where
we had twenty four twenty nine years it has been. And it was the Rockets on the NBA side taking down the Magic and then it was the Devils and Marty Broduor taking down the Detroit Red Wings, and it just for me made me think when they finally punched through in won the Stanley Cup in ninety seven, it was a forty two year old drought. If you're not old enough to remember, the Red Wings were considered to be a gigantic jinx. They kind of like people look at the there's a lot of teams, teams
that don't win, you know. For the it was the Cubs and the Red Sox, and in baseball for the longest time until they ended it. But it was the Red Wings like the leafs. Like now people looked at the Toronto maple leafs and you know they do seem cursed. But for the Red Wings, it was like that exercise the ghosts, and they did it forty two years. They were able to do it in ninety seven when they got through, but in ninety five when they made the finals, you know,
you're thinking this is gonna be it. And it's funny the things that you remember in sports. But I can remember on that opening night, getting ready to play the Red Wings and the Devils and the ninety five Stanley Cup
Finals. I had a car with no air conditioning. On a day like today, it seemed like the maybe there was a strike that pushed the season backs, and it seemed like it was even further into June than right now, but I don't know, maybe not, but maybe the point is is that I was drying in my little car with no AC over to my friend's house, and you know, I had the radio blasting on some you know, you'd think music with no sports talk like you know right now, and
I was just getting pumped, you know, for that game. And you know, that's like my entire memory of that series, the drive over to my friend's house and for the next I wasn't the next twenty five years, but certainly for the next ten years, getting together with my friends for the for the playoffs, and for sure the Stanley Cup finals and you know the Red Wings then, you know, winning in ninety seven, ninety eight, coming back in two thousand and two, doing it in two thousand and eight,
and you know, sweeps, if it's your team you're here, a Florida Panther team, Florida Panther or a Boston Celtic fan, you know, you're you're fine, You're happy with a sweep. You just want to get it done. If you are who else would be If you're gambled, if you battle the Florida Panthers or the Boston Celtics to win, you know you don't want to have a good series, but everyone else, and I think
it's the majority of us. You know, it's a letdown. What does everyone say if you're not betting, or if you're not a fan of that team, you just want to see a good series. Oh when people ask me, who do I want to see? I want to see a game seven. I want to see drama. I want something to talk about on the radio. Well, we're not getting that. We're just getting two teams that are ready to They've got the brooms poised and they're ready to just put
their opponent into the bin. We'll get to what else happened yesterday in sports and get you ready for this weekend. On this Father'sday weekend, I'm Dennis Fifthian. I'm in for Matt Shepherd is here. Thanks for listening, Jaxis and Bros. And a Michigan Sports Network huge. Here for my good friends
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I was looking at the weather report and I like it when they put emoji's out there, and for this weekend, it looks pretty good. They had the emoji with the dude with the the sunglasses, you know, and even though it was going to be hot, pretty good. But then on Monday they had the frowning and then the other, I don't know, exasperated emoji guy and it said muggy muggy starting on Monday. Nobody likes a muggy day.
Hot. You're okay, but nobody's out there, you know, because you can say, well, I like this, you know, I'm going to the beach, but nobody likes muggy. So but We don't have to worry about that until Monday. All right. We're looking back to what has happened in sports yesterday and getting you ready for the weekend. I've got the question out there for you with Father's Day, and we're looking for your favorite saying from your father. If you've got a good one that you think the
audience would like, you can jump in on that. Of course, you know you're a sports fan. I don't know you like football. You want to get into that right away. I will be talking about the Lions and the Packers and the Bears, and I'm gonna put the mix in there with the Vikings. Why not with the NFC North. How scared you are as a Lions fan of the Green Bay Packers. We'll get to that coming up
at seven oh one. I was looking back to last night with Florida uh beating Edmonton four to three and pulling within one game away from winning their first Stanley Cup. And they have the three oh series lead, and both in the NBA and NHL we have three oh series lead, which made me, you know, think about sweep saying, you know, it's it's just watching Kyrie Irving from the MAVs saying, yeah, it's just about pride. It's just about pride now, and you know it's demoralizing even as a fan.
I was thinking as I was watching the game last night, the hockey game. Edmonton is such a we would say hockey hotbed. I mean, they love their hockey. If you told me that per capita, that the folks in Edmonton liked hockey more than anyone else in the world, you know, you wouldn't get any pushback from me. You know, there's probably a lot of people in Canada and say, now we're but Edmonton's right there, especially
with the success that they've had over the years and everything else. But and we used to always joke about, oh, you'll get a great sheet of ice up there. You know, it's cold and and and all of that, and I have to deal with uh, you know, you always are thinking about that it's gonna be good that way. But watching the you know, the anthem and the crowd just like let's go Oilers and all of that, I was thinking about. I was holding you know, you wait the
whole time and you're you know, wanting to win the Stanley Cup. How excited would you be to go to a game four on what's Saturday night. If you're an Edmonton Oilers fan, when you're down three to zero and you have to be you know you just love hockey, You're gonna go, hey, it's the Stanley Cup Finals. You start playing like the things. You know, stranger things can happen. But when you get to these stranger things
can happen, not so much. In in Stanley Cup Finals history, there have been twenty eight teams that have been up three to oh, and twenty seven out of twenty eight times, the a team that's been up three to oh has one. So you pull out the emojii's saying oh. So you say there's a chance. There is a chance. Toronto took down the Detroit
Red Wings in nineteen forty two back from a three deficit. So that's where we sit, Ben, Are you ready to do you do you think that the Edmonton Oilers, as we go back to the studio, would you predict that since that they would be the first team to come back from a three oh series late since nineteen forty two? I don't think they have it.
Yeah, I don't either. If there's something fluky all one goal games, you know, a discrepancy like on the power play or something something that you would pull in, like there's a major injury to Bobrasky got hurt last night and you would say, oh, I don't know, you can get a
backup goal and whatever. But there's none of that Florida. Every time you watch them, they look better and as much as uh, you know, you watch the playoffs over the years, and in particular the Stanley Cup finals, you uh, you watch and so many times you know, you'll you'll watch a game and this is what it's a great thing about hockey. It's
also one of the frustrating things about hockey. You'll watch and there it seems like it comes down to a puck bounce here, a post, there, a deflection, and it's like, is that it I mean, but that's not what it is with Florida. I mean, the Oilers scored first, uh yesterday, I'm sorry, the pan scored a goal late in the first but then the Oilers tied it up. But then there was the floodgates and
there was no like a bounce here, a bounce there. The Panthers they scored three goals in just over six minutes, and you know, there was a two to one one. There's you know, a guy beating the oiler defenseman in the back of the night and putting it out to Tarasinko who's sitting in there right all alone in the slot, right in front of the goaltender
Skinner who made the bad play and back of the goal. The point is is that it was Florida looked like they were in the regular season, playing one of the worst teams in the NHL, not a Stanley Cup Finals. When they were on a roll, right, there was no thing about, oh a bounce here, a bounce there. You could have talked about that in the first period, and they were talking about that after twenty minutes, but not after forty minutes. It was a very impressive display by Florida.
You know, the sweeps. I was just thinking about in Detroit sports history, and I mentioned the Red Wings, you know, getting swept by the Devils in ninety five. If you then think about the Red Wings history, they went out when they finally did win it over the Flyers, what happened. They swept them. They swept the Flyers in ninety seven, and then when they came back in one back to back in ninety seven and ninety eight. In ninety eight they beat the Capitals. That was also a sweep.
So the first two times in forty two years when they they broke the the Hecks or the Stanley Cup drought, the Red Wings were able to get sweeps in the Stanley Cup finals. So then I was thinking about the Pistons. The Pistons, when you think about sweeps, the last three times that they have been in the playoffs, they have been the Bucks did it, the Calves, and I don't know who the other one was in there, probably
Milwaukee again swept out of the playoffs. But if you think about the Pistons when they finally won the NBA championship in eighty eight eighty nine, they took on the Lakers, and what happened in that series. The Pistons swept the Lakers. That's what happened. So you know, the sweeps on one side, the sweeps on the other. I say finally, because the Pistons the year before had taken on the Lakers and they were in a situation to beat
La but they lost that game six. With the tough fowl. I believe that was the game that Isaiah had twenty five in the first quarter, but you know went down with the hook shot with Kareem Lambert was like the plane of vertic Cavilli. Everything that you would teach as a coach about how to play defense in the post, there was Lambert, and yet they called him for the Phantom File. But the Pistons came back and they were and then the year before it was the ceth Diics. But then they finally did get
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record, there's still two games under five hundred. They beat the National seven to two yesterday. Hey, it is Dennis Fifthion here on Axes and Bros. And the Michigan Sports Network. Florida. They are one game away from winning their first ever Stanley Cup as they beat Edmonton in Edmonton last night by a final of four to three. All right, we're going to talk about the Lions coming up at seven oh one, and just how much do the Green Bay Packers scare? You want you to think about that question? I
am going to answer it coming up at seven oh one. I have the question out there for you, and this is this is perfect to use the text line to get your feedback in we're looking for your dad sayings on this Father's Day weekend. Something your dad would say, a funny, a serious, something that has stayed with you in sports or otherwise. You can text that in the sports radio sports radio all one word to twenty one thousand, Sports radio to twenty one thousand, give me that favorite dad saying in this
Father's Day weekend twenty twenty four. Of course you can call us at eight six six eight three, eight forty eight forty three on the Meyer Hotline. We've had open topics out there for you. I'm going to get to what a big time baseball stats guy had to say this week. And his name is Bill James. And if you're a baseball fan, stat driven a person you'll know the name Bill James. Bill James put a tweet out the notion that no one except a small child should get a foul ball is a very
recent phenomenon. Ten years ago. James says, an adult could catch a foul ball and nobody would say anything about it. Now I saw that. Let me first ask Ben Zost, who's producing Ben, have you ever caught a ball at a baseball game. I have not. That would be exciting, but no, it would be exciting. It's something that we all think about or maybe dream about. I never have either, but I have seen, buddy of it. It's happened around me, and there is no doubt
that you can be affected. Most of the time when you see, especially when online, you'll see the like adult like pushing a kid out of the way. Nobody. We're not talking about anything like that. But what James is saying is that even if you are there and you catch the ball, then you're supposed to immediately find a child in your vicinity and you're supposed to hand the ball to. Now. I do agree that there feels like there is a little pressure to do that if you're an adult at a game.
I don't think that this is some recent phenomenon. If he wanted to say, I don't know, twenty five years ago, an adult could catch a ball and nobody would say anything about it, I'd buy it. But you know, ten years ago, so that would be my quibble with what he has to say about that. But I've always you know, since I have never caught a foul ball or any kind of baseball at a game. And you know, I've got kids at home and they're older now, but and
the you know, nephew and nieces. I could very easily have seen myself at a baseball game as a fan if I caught my first foul ball ever and people are pressuring me, were looking at me like, hey, you're going to give that ball up? I was thinking, you know, no, I'm going to How about I'm going to take this home and I'm going to give it to my kid or I am going to actually give it to
somebody in my family. I'm not going to be pressured by you. So I do know that that's out there, that you know, that feeling that you should be giving the ball away. You know, a long time ago, I've got one of the best seats I ever got, were just given to me randomly on a Sunday, somebody called and said, hey, you want to go to the Tigers game? Pre tickets would drive you there and everything else. And you know why not. I was in college and I
remember going to this game. We went to the guy's house and not only did he have the tickets and was he driving us to the game. He's like he had he had a family outing over the weekend. He said, Hey, there's a cooler full of drinks in there before we go. You guys help yourself. So not only are we getting free tickets and free parking and everything else, Hey here's a cooler full of drinks. The point of this story is is that the tickets were great. And the guy who I'll
never forget his name, his name was Ace. I don't know that, you know, it had to be a nickname, but didn't ask too much about that. The guy's names Ace. His tickets were great. Were sitting a couple of rows behind the Tigers dugout, and this was Tiger Stadium, so it was back in the day. But the that is foul ball territory obviously, right, you know you're sitting here, but I can recall sitting there and seeing the foul ball get hit up in the air, you know
whatever. It was fifty sixty feet and it's coming down right at me, but it just goes like two or three seats down and who catches it but Ace, who's right there. And I was never happier for anybody to catch a foul ball that I barely knew then Ace as give me the tickets all the things that I talked about. So I'm like, hey, that's great, great job Ace, you know, high five and while having our laughs and so there it is. That's not a really big deal. But later
in the game, almost the exact same thing happens. You know, the foul ball's coming. Like I'm thinking, oh, this one's coming right for me, I'm getting this one. But at the last second I got it's just you know, streams over and who catches it. But Ace again, two foul balls in the same game. I was reminded about a month ago. It was it was a Mariners game. There was a guy down the left field line. Just he wasn't in home run territory, just in foul
territory, but way down the line there. So it was not just some lazy foul ball behind the dugout like I'm talking about. But this guy caught back to back foul ball almost home runs. And they were like, what are the odds of this? And somebody was like the very you know, winning the lottery type of odds. There not so much for Ace. But you know, that was my story with a foul ball. I was close but the guy that I wanted to see catch it, he caught too.
The kicker on that was that when Ace caught his second foul ball, he was so happy that he bought a round of hot dogs for everyone that was with him there. So it was a hell of a day for Ace and it was also a very memorable day for me. There was also one time where a home run ball. I was in the overhang at Tiger Stadium with my nephew who's four years old. Some I'm four or five years old, and there might have only been another three or four people up there on the
upper deck in this day game at Tiger Stadium. But I'm reminded a lot about this particular event by two things that happened. One, Bobby Bonilla was playing for the Baltimore Orioles, and every year Bobby Bonia there's a Bobby Bonia Day. Benia signed a contract, a I don't know, twenty five year contract where he gets a million dollars every year, and everybody's like, well,
that such a great contract. It's fun. But I'm always reminded because Bobby Bonilla slams a home run into the right field upper deck with me and my nephew sitting there, and if I would have just stood up, I think it would have hit me right in ahead. But it was hit directly at me, a home run ball into the upper deck. And what happened. I did panic a little bit. You know, when one's hit right at you and it's a home run, it's like and nobody else is around.
I'm like, this is it. And I remember my nephew, you know, he's four years old. He's like, we're going to catch a baseball. I want a baseball. I'm like, oh, yeah, we're gonna catch one. I'm lying to him. But then here it is. It's coming right at me. I panicked a little bit, and you know, I'm grabbing the kid and I went down a mistake a row or two, and it ends up just clearing my hand and you know, karm's over like fifteen feet. And the long story short is this kid beats me to
the ball by like a foot and I don't get it. And so that part was disappointing. Disappointing that I didn't just catch it. But in the years after, I will hear It's not once every year, but it's it's, you know, once every couple of years. I'll be just watching a baseball game and the analysts will say, you know, the the toughest ball to catch is one that's right at you. And I always say, you know what he is exactly right. I know what he's talking about, because
that bonea ball was coming right at me. That's not really the point of this. This was Bill James saying that there's a notion that every small child should get a foul ball is a recent phenomenon. I would also add into that if you go to a game and you're sitting in the outfield and the opponents hit a home run, you are pressured at Coomerica to throw that ball back. So and if I am judging the ranges of hey, you catch a lazy foul ball like ace, like right where the dugout was, this
is pretty easy catch. I mean he could have just had his hand out. Pretty easy catch a home run ball, you know, especially if you catch it and this thing is, you know, coming at you and at a one hundred and five miles an hour or whatever it is exit velocity, and you can reach up and snag one, and it's for the opponent. And I've got one hundred people in my section saying throw it back. I'm feeling like telling everybody to go jump on a leg. But definitely is that
pressure throw it back. I would not throw it back. I would more likely leave the section because people would be like, you know, I don't know about harassing, but definitely jeering for me to enchanting for me to throw it back. But I would not. I don't think I would succumb to the pressure of throwing the ball back. But oftentimes people do succumb to the pressure to throw it back. Man, and everybody cheers woo, and then you know you're a hero for a second. But I don't know if that's
worth it or not when you're doing that to throw it back. Old Bill James speaking of Bill James, for the longest time, when somebody I always had my own idea about when somebody is that, who's the greatest baseball player of all time? You know, I do my work and think about all
the different stats and everything else. This is before guys like Bill James, and you know there was wins abovely above replacement and all these things, and you know, I'd say, Willie Mays, they're all the number crunching babe. Ruth in there, Hank Aaron, and then these guys started ranking all of different players. Well well, James and however he did it. I always liked his list and and James came up with and he also would put
Egro league players in the in the mix too. And then this year you probably know, I don't know last month or the month before, they included the statistics from the Negro leagues and now with Major League Baseball, and some people were up in arms that the Ty Cobb Society did not like it because Cobb had the highest batting average, and then he was supplanted by Josh Gibson.
But you know, James had included the players you know long before, you know, years ago, and he did not have Willie Mays as the number one baseball player. He had Babe Ruth. And I didn't think there was much, you know, I wasn't gonna argue too much about that because they don't. Ruth is I think an easy one to go and put up there. But his I think he did the ten. This could have even been twenty years ago. They did it with his statistics talking about Bill James,
but he put Babe Ruth one. Hannis Wagner two again, you know that I think about baseball cards, that's like the most valuable one, the honest Wagner card. And Willie May's at three. All right, there's my guy, and then four was Oscar Charleston, and then five ty Cop and I was like, what who Oscar Charleston. So even when it comes down
to Negro League players, Josh Gibson I knew who he was. Of course, Satcho Page, you know, you know the names, and if you're the Tigers fan, the Detroit Stars, Turkey Sterns, you know you'd know that name. But I didn't know the name of Oscar Charleston. So I can recall having to look and sing just some great center fielder and he went on to be an equally successful manager. I don't know if James put that
into the mix, but he had Oscar Charleston above Ty Cob. I just have always thought out, if I got a hundred bayall guys, people that were really into the history of the game, stats, wore Baseball Reference of anything, fan graft guy, all one hundred of them, and put them all together, how many would have put Oscar Charleston anywhere close to a top
five player of all time in Major League Baseball. Well, Bill James would and he did, and he for those that are interested rounding out the top five man Old Ted Williams, the great pitcher, Walter Johnson, Josh Gibson who I mentioned, and then Stan Usual at ten. But I always thought that was intriguing that that was his. You know, everybody's got their their thing, like this is the guy I'm standing for, Bill James. He
puts Charleston. I always wonder. I haven't researched this. I don't know where Bill James is from, and I think Charleston played it the majority of
his baseball and he played in a lot of different places. But I think Indy and I wonder if there's some kind of connection and if I would guess now, you'd like to think that everybody is just if you're if you're trying to rank players, and certainly if you're somebody like James who does it and has a numbers based you know, that's how he's a formula based that he is trying to remove any bias and he is just good. You know, he is trying to guide baseball fans, you know, for the greatest players
of all time using a formula. But I have a suspicion that not that I don't know if he tweaked his formula with it, that that somehow Charleston has a connect to James, whether somehow, I guess would be that he lived by him some way. That's it. I we're all suspicious when anybody's doing any ranking. He's like, Oh, no, you're just a Lions fan. Oh you're you live in the state of Michigan. You're a big ten guy. You know, you always hear skind of things like that,
because you know, oftentimes it's correct. I mean, people there's I don't know how many. And then you know, even if you're a scientist, they're always talking about trying to remove bias and everything. How many real sports? I mean, I know you're supposed to if you're a journalist and you have the you're not supposed to root for anything. You're just looking and trying.
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