I've said before on this program how impressed you must be with a National footballer for so many reasons, not just because of what they do financially, not because they have their players out there getting endorsements, but just keeping the league top mind awareness. It's a constant discussing point, not just on this program, but on sports talk radio throughout the country, on television podcasts, all
those things. I suppose that's easy to do for a lot of leagues, but there's always it seems like you should say, it seems like there's just a ton to discuss when it comes to the National Football League that justin Jefferson is the latest. We talked about the passing, unfortunately of Larry Allen and
what a great player he was and how that position is really underrated. Well, if you look and you're kind of do some homework, not homework, but if you're interested in some good reading sports reading on websites, a lot of them have different NFL articles to kind of peruse and then maybe to discuss with friends. Most of the time, when I'm looking at a lot of these websites and I'm reading a lot of these articles, I try to put
myself not as a talk show host. But in the shoes of you a fan and on a Friday or Saturday night and you're kind of hanging out with some buddies, are you and your wife go to a you know, a gathering. What is the topic of discussion going to be? And then I like, I like to get your thoughts on that. So there's a couple
of articles that caught my eye and a couple of things. Sorry for the little bit of a little malfunction there to start our Friday July fifth, But we're glad you're with us and staying with us here on x'es and bros. Across the Great State of Michigan. The Meyer hot Line open for eight six, six, eight three, eight forty eight forty three. You can text the program sports Radio to twenty one thousand. Tigers lose yesterday in a rain
shortened final to Minnesota. It's a twelve three, seven inning blowout. Cantami Etam continues to blow up. How else do you say it? Honestly? How else do you say? What he has for the Tigers so far this year? He last years three and two thirds innings, gave up nine runs on nine hits. Joe Miranda do you know who Joe Miranda is. Have you have you heard of Joe Miranda? Now I have. I think you may have slightly in the past recognized the name. It's It's not like he's
harming Killer Brew. He's not the second coming of harming Killer Brew in Minnesota.
What a game for him? Huh? Five for five, four runs scored and three runs driven in. I mean made it look easy for the twins, who in their right mind, seriously, I mean, this is these are the things it's going to happen with guys stepping up quote unquote and performing at a high level and having a game of their lives every once in a while, this is bound to happen, right Well, with Joe Miranda it happened yesterday apparently, and for some reason or another, I don't know
what it is, but Kent to Maida just cannot find it, can't find it. He's been awful, he's been you know, people get mad at Casey Mice, and I understand that because, I mean, Casey Mice is a first overall pick expectations, right, what was your expectation for Kent tom Ada? Was it a five hundred pitcher? Was it a guy who can stabilize the front part of this rotation. Let's keep in mind I mean Joe
Miranda or Jose Miranda. Now he it was by Jose Miranda. He was the second round pick from Minnesota, so there were certain expectations for him right
from Twins fans. Is what I'm saying. What did you expect when the Tigers went out and signed kent To Maida to a two year contract, knowing of his recent problems with you know, injuries in his history at the age of thirty six, what was the expectation like if you would have told me you were getting the kent To Maida of two thousand and nineteen or twenty. In twenty twenty, he led the league, He led all of baseball on the whip. He was second in the Cy Young. But that was,
of course a COVID shortened season. Not trying to take anything away from anybody, I'm not going to sit there and say Jose Braid didn't earn an MVP, or Freddy Freeman didn't earn an MVP, or Shane Bieber didn't win a cy Young or Trevor Bauer win a cy Young. But those are the ones who wanted in twenty twenty. But if you told me that was the kent to my ada we were getting, I'd be okay, great. I hope
that's not why they signed him. I hope they didn't sign him thinking, you know what, if he gets back to twenty twenty form or twenty nineteen form, we're in pretty good shape. That's not what you're getting. You got a guy who's two and five with an ERA close to seven, an ERA close to seven. His ERRA, his whip walks, hits per innings pitched is double more than double of what he did during that twenty twenty season.
He's got a whip of one point five two four. It's giving up seventy four four hits in sixty three innings and forty nine runs in those innings. When people talk about disappointment and they talk about being tired of this, that and the other thing with this team, where is the conversation about that signing right there? So Detroit is now thirty nine and forty eight on the year. They are sixteen games back in the Division, one six back in
the Division. I was thinking about this yesterday and I can't help but wonder this. You know, as much as you want to be fun, loving and enjoying life. We should, okay, I mean yesterday we were celebrating the birth of our nation. I was thinking about all the things that have happened. On July fourth in baseball, Lou Garrick's speech right, no hitters
being thrown. I'm sure you heard it and are in the den segment yesterday, no hitters being thrown by Dave Righetti and Tom Seaver and Nolan Ryan with his three thousandth career strikeout on July fourth of nineteen eighty and Joe Nicro doing the same thing, doing the same thing. And then I thought, you know, as much as I want to be happy at this time of the year and really appreciative of all the things that we have, I try not to lose sight of that. I look around and I think, you know,
this team is starting to It's no longer disappointing to me. It's pissing me off. And I'd love to know where your emotion is right now with this team just going about the business man, it's it's incredibly frustrating, folks. They're nine games under five hundred, So you can talk to me all you want about chev. I didn't expect them to win the Central I'd love to know who you thought was going to win it. But that's fine. I'm not mad because I'm wrong. I'm mad because of how this team plays
the game of baseball. I'm mad because of the lack of talent on this team. And I'm mad to a certain extent because we're forced to accept it. So where's your emotion at on this first Friday in July, well past the midway point of Major League Baseball season. Why in the world would we accept this? Of course you're probably saying, what the hell were we going to do about it? I'd love to know where your emotion is right now.
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Michigan. You're listening to my good friend shep. The Huge Show is coming up later today at three right here on the Michigan Sports Network, Part eighteen After the Hour Woke Them Back, Texas and Bros. With you Monday through Friday, six until nine. Don't forget the Huge Show on these same great affiliates, Hugh John from three until six. I'm Matt Sheppard. Trent
Bally is our producer. Give us a call on the Meyer Hotline as we search for emotions of yours with this Tigers team eight six six eight three eight forty eight forty three. Or you can text the program Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. We got an early text, right, Trent. What does it say? Yeah, someone just wants to bring up They say a sobering stat. The Detroit Tigers have not won two consecutive games in more than a month. Just when they finally score a few runs, their pitching seems to
Falter. The last time they've won back to back games is June fourth against Texas, so that Texter is dead on. Thank you for the info. Is that more bothersome than the fact that they have lost four series or three series, I should say in a row and seven of the last eight. They've lost seven of the last eight series. The only team they or the last time they beat a team in a series was Texas when they beat him
two out of three. I'm going to say this and it's not you know, I don't like talking about one specific individual because it's a team game. We understand that you pick each other up. If I'm not having a good day, Trent does everything he possibly can to pick me up. Okay, I get it. My eight has been a disaster, very low with rate. He's not getting swings and misses at all. Okay, he's not putting guys away with two strikes. It went from bad to worse. You get
you go my ada and then Joey Wentz and I like Joey Wentz. He's a good enough GUYUK to me this if you if you send him back down, you don't have anybody better. This is the problem when you make a move. When a baseball team makes a move, they want to bring somebody up. Who they bring up has to be on the forty man roster. If he is not on the forty man roster, you have to get somebody off the forty man roster. They have to go through waivers and they are
allowed to be claimed by any other team. If they are not claimed by that team, you can bring them back and put them on your minor league squad. Okay, So in order for you to have to make a move, you bring a guy up from the forty man roster. Who is that going to be, Well, we know that Bobriski's already there, Andrew Chaffin is already there. Mason Edlert has been there with little success. Alex Fayedo is hurt. Jack Flaherty obviously is a starter. Wilmerflores is a possibility.
He's a minor leaguer. Jason Foley's already there, Sawyer Gibson Long is out basically for the rest of the season. Tyler Holton is already in the bullpen. Alex Lang is hurt. Easton Lucas no idea, have no idea who Easton Lucas is Maeta, Manning's in the miners, Shelby Miller. These are all the guys in the forty man roster. Shelby Miller is already out of the bullpen, has been awful. Casey Mize is currently on the il kaider. Montero won the lone game against Minnesota, his first major league win.
Reese Olsen's in the rotation, Schoobls in the rotation, vest is out of the bullpen, WinCE got blown up again yesterday, and Brendan White is in the mind in the leagues. What I'm telling you is, in order for you to make a move Wentz, Maeta whatever to be sent down, you could bring up Brendon White, Matt Manning, East and Lucas or Wilmer Flores or Mason englerd What are those choices for you? Are those any good at all? I mean, honestly, what the hell is going on here?
And East and Lucas in case you were wondering. Was originally drafted by Miami out of Pepperdine in the fourteenth round. I love comeback stories. I love underdog stories. The twenty seven year old was the four hundred and eleventh pick overall. Couldn't make it with Miami. Tiger's obviously needed somebody within the system, and they grab him. I mean, this is the crap we're dealing with, folks. We're being shoved certain players and being told this is gonna
work. Nothing is working. So there's there's a part of me now that I'm just getting I'm getting kind of worked up about it. I don't know how you feel, but I'm getting kind of worked up about it because I would like to know when the decision or when the plan changes, we can recreate this guy. Oh, Ken, you that's interesting because you haven't been able to do that yet. We want teams to eat money all the time. Eat I have of your biases contract, Okay, I get it.
It'll be easier to eat kent to my eighties contract. But he's still making fourteen million dollars this year and he's gonna make ten next year. How's that grab you? They signed him to a two year deal worth twenty four million dollars. What's he going to give you? He hasn't given you anything so far. Zip, and you get him for another year. An organization that we were told is built on pitching. Remember these are not my words. These are the words of the front office, the alleged plan, the alleged
plan, a glutton of pitching. But you gotta go out and you get to get Ken Tamada and Jack Flaherty. You're gonna be able to turn v Jack Flaherty as long as he's healthy, You'll be able to turn him at the trade deadline. We hope couldn't do it with Eduardo Rodriguez last year. You hope you can do it with Jack Flaherty. This is what we've got. July fifth. Would love to be talking to you about what you grilled
yesterday. And maybe I should. Maybe I should, I mean, maybe try to pull me in and say, you know what, enough bitching about the Tigers. I can't help it, man, because it's not just that I thought they were gonna be gonna win the division. I thought there would be so much better. Are they really that much better than last year? Answer me the question. Honestly, you went out and you supposedly got two quote unquote professional hitters. That's what we were told, Canna or Schella.
You went out and you got two starting pitchers who are gonna help your minor leaguers or your young major leaguers. You were gonna help them in what way? Tell me how they've helped them, not putting them away, not throwing strikes, not getting swings and misses, giving things up left and right, and what do we get? You gotta find that command. It all starts and ends with command. Really, I didn't know that he's really effective when
he dominates the strike zone. Can you tell me a picture who isn't? Can we stop with the cliche? Bull crap? That's what we get after every loss. Read the quotes. Man, go back and look at all the times we've heard this about a starting pitcher. Well, got to find that command. He's really effective when he dominates the zone. He's got to get ahead of batters. Is there a picture out there that you're aware of? I mean, has there ever been a manager? Pick a manager?
I don't care, Bobby Cox, Chuck Tanner, go ahead, find me a manager white. He hears eye who says, well, the good thing about Trent Bally is what he doesn't dominate the own he's really good. Here's the really good thing about my good right hander is when he gets behind in the count, he dominates. Bull crap. It's all the same. Maybe it's too much. Maybe I'm maybe I'm too hard, maybe I'm too emotional, maybe I'm too frustrated. I'll buy that. Perhaps I mean we were
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dot org. At thirty five after the hour, Welcome back on a Friday of Exus and Bros. I'm confused. Perhaps maybe we shouldn't be expecting as much as I expect. Perhaps I am way out of line here, but the Tigers, as a Texter pointed out, and it was I really appreciate it. Haven't won back to back game since June fourth against Texas, and as I told you, they have lost seven of their last eight series. Where is the angst? And it shouldn't be just for me? How come
there are there should be an article. We're well past the midway point. There should be an article about questioning where this team is going. So I want to be I want to ask an honest question. I'm not trying to be a know it all. I want to ask an honest question. Here. If the Tigers released a Kielba due tomorrow, how much would they miss him? That? One thirty two he's been one eleven over the last fifteen days, one eleven. They have on their forty man roster a dude by
the name of Ryan Valady. Okay, it's twenty five years old. I'm all for giving people chances. I'm all for seeing the positive in people. What do you what are you getting with a forty man roster? Move like that, you're protecting them right. Eddie's Leonard was brought over from Los Angeles. Eddies Leonard has no power. He's got seven extra base hits all year long. He's bet two forty three. He's protected grant. Granted, he's
just twenty three. He's a possible shortstop fit. Has there been any rumors, any murmur about him possibly being moved up or a call for him to be called up? Maybe this is part of a bigger problem or a different problem, I should say, But you bring up he's a potential shortstop fit. But it's also like he's another guy that doesn't really have a home, No, not anywhere on the field. It's one of several problems with the Tigers. Several. Yeah, it's almost as if we've just given up and
we've forgotten it. That doesn't matter to us. Yankees have run into all kinds of issues, right, And I know this is about the Tigers, but I'm gonna bring up the Yankees anyway. Okay, REGs just swept them. New York has gone from a two game lead in the Al East over Baltimore and they are now two games back of Baltimore. Okay, they've had all kinds of issues. I think they've lost eleven of their last fourteen games.
They've got Aaron Judge's personal hitting coach on social media telling everybody who follows him and he's gaining more followers because he's basically said they can't develop any young hitters because they don't know what they're doing, trashing the Yankees for terrible offensive development. His words via Twitter or x. The New York Posts, the headline is the Yankees horror show opening treacherous al East door. For three weeks,
the Yankees have been terrible. Can't succeed in any phase of the game. That kind of terrible, worst in the majors, kind of terrible. That's the headlines in the New York Post Sports section. And that's for a team that is fifty four and thirty five. The fifty four wins our second most in the American League and second most in baseball. They've been horrible, like I just said, lost three in a row. I think eleven or
fourteen, eight of ten, whatever you want to do. Okay, they've got more road wins than any team in baseball with thirty and they said two games back for the division lead in what some would argue is the hardest division in baseball. And that's the headlines. And the Tigers or our media is feeding us well. The Tigers lose to the Twins. Ken Tamaieta was wincing and rolling his eyes and shaking his head, staring in disbelief at what's going
on with his start. Or how about this one the Detroit Tigers second baseman Cole Keith swings so aggressively that his helmet didn't stand his head. They lost twelve to three, and you're talking about cold Keith's second deck home run. He jogged around the bases with it without his helmet. Yeah, that's your
takeaway and a nine run loss. That's the takeaway in a nine run loss for a team that has what won back to back games the last time it happened was a month, loses another series, haven't won a series in a month. That's the takeaway that you and I have to read while throwing up in our mouth. Yeah, shep. You open the segment with where's the
angst? And I think that's the big takeaway for people like you and I who try to look at this objectively and take a step back, because I think oftentimes the quote unquote New York media gets overblown in sports, but it doesn't need to be that extreme. Even it can just be as simple as, hey, guys, you haven't won back to back games in thirty two days or whatever it's been. What's up. Yeah, I'm not asking our media to be nasty, vile, crude and have unrealistic expectations. Of course
not. Okay, we are viewed what this is part of the reason I love the Midwest. We're viewed as good people, all right. I have no issue with that. But enough is enough? I mean, at some point, if it's not now, when's it going to be? When you're nine games under five hundred. You just got your door is blown off by a division rival, what we think is a division rival. Let's go to the Meyer hotline. The Meyer hotline is eight sixty six eight three, eight
forty eight forty three. Trent, who's standing by. We've got Linda wants to talk some tigers. Linda, good morning, How are you very good? How about yourself? Great? Hope you had a good fourth Yeah I did. There's a little bit of feedback here. I'm not sure why. Okay, sorry about that, but go ahead. We can hear you loud and clear. Okay. I have a couple of things. So I think part of what problem is is that we don't go out and really sign some
really good, solid free agents. We're trying to build everything through a minor league team, and I think that's really where the problem is. That we've got to start spending some money. Well, I don't disagree with that at all. I think they have to spend more money than they have. Personally, I want this team to be drafting and developing young players, but there
has to be a balance. Yeah, it's interesting you say that because I was watching I'll get into this in the seven o'clock hour, But yesterday I was watching the NFL Network and America's games, so they're showing a historical significant game for a specific season, and they were talking The nineteen seventy four Steelers were on, and they had mentioned how all these players for that team that won the Super Bowl was homegrown, all of them, Andy Russell, Jack
Lambert Jack, cam Joe Green, Elsie Greenwood, Franko, Herris, you name it. They drafted these guys and developed these guys. And I think with the Tigers, I couldn't help but think of the Tigers and the Lions. But I think with the Tigers, they've drafted some guys. That's fine. The players they're bringing in to try and support the young guys as they
grow have got clicked. It's not working. Yeah, And how much money is Detroit worth from a you know, spending standpoint, if you're the owner of this franchise, Chris Ilich, how much do you think he should be spending? Because he's right now twenty sixth in the league. I believe in spending at one hundred and six million dollars, what would you like to say, maybe he should probably maybe going to maybe one hundred and twenty five hundred and thirty. Yeah, I think it should be one fifty. I think
that should be yeah, somewhere in that rain. Yeah. And I had another I had another question, not necessarily related to the team, But have you heard has Trevor Thompson left Balley Sports? No? Okay, he's just out of rotation right now. Okay, Yeah. They rotate guys, They rotate people, and thanks for the phone call, Linda, have a great weekend. They rotate their various talent, so you'll see certain people doing report, certain people doing hosting. Yeah he is, he's still there. Yeah,
so you don't you don't have to worry about that, Treva. I wouldn't be surprised if he's on the home stand back doing some reporting too. To Linda's point, specifically, I said Detroit's at one one hundred and six million. They're one oh six point four, so I rounded down. I'll round out for you if you want. They're ranked twenty third. I said twenty six. They're ranked twenty third. Cleveland's ranked twenty six, and they
lead the division, and they and they lead the division rather comfortably. So that's my bad. But see, they spend their money. You can call them cheap all you want, go ahead, that's fine. I'm sure there's people in Cleveland who aren't thrilled with the fact that the Cleveland Guardians have a payroll of one hundred million dollars one hundred point six. They get results,
they spend their money. Apparently they spend it wisely. Would I be happy if the team had a payroll of that, No, I would not, But you know what, I would be happy with twenty three games over five hundred six game lead in the division, meeting and exceeding expectations. I'm not asking you to be the two thousands a's, the moneyball a's, but it's a you gotta be well run, right, chef, and the Tigers aren't. It's not just about how much money you have, it's how you're spending
it. And like you said to open the show, Kentamieta, that's not good value. You're not spending good money. There absolutely well said. If you're I don't care how much money you're spending, I care how you're spending it. Beingo, where are you spending it? See here's what's here's what goes on in sports and baseball specifically, certain teams are viewed as cheap Oakland, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Tampa cheap, but at least a couple
of those teams are viewed as well. They may not be willing to spend a lot of money, but they're financially responsible. So there's a difference. You and I may go on vacation. You may spend a lot of money, a lot more money than I will, depends on where you're going. We both went on vacation, right, you just happen to spend a lot more money. We're both getting away, we're both enjoying ourselves. Baltimore is a team that's got a really low payroll. That's because they've got young players.
Let's see how much they're willing to spend a little bit. Later on, I'll give you a perfect example. You want, you want to spend money, you want the Cubs. The Cubs have a payroll of a two hundred and twenty seven million dollars. They're in last place. Toronto spends two hundred and twenty four million dollars. They're in last place. Colorado spends way
more than the Tigers. They spend one hundred and forty seven million, which is where, right or wrong, where I think the Tigers' payroll should be. They're in last place. The White Sox are saddled with one hundred and thirty six million dollars payroll. They're in last place. Yeah, it's not just about having money, it's knowing what to do with the money. And I think the frustration with Tigers fans coming it's well founded in my opinionshap because
it's not just a Vila, it's Harris. I mean, we're two years into this now, and I'm not getting on the guy. I'm just simply saying it's okay to raise the k Wait a minute, it's okay to get on the guy. Yes, that comes with the territory. It's a job. We're willing to go nuts on Alavila and Matt Millen and Troy Weaver and Ken Holland who actually won championships. You want to bitch and moan about guys like that, but you're sorry. I don't mean to get on the guy.
Go ahead, he's a big boy, he can take it. It comes with the territory. It's a job, and this is America. I don't want to veer too far off here. But if the Pistons say Tim Hardaway Junior is a dumpster fire this season, Trajan Langdon should get heat for that, absolutely, and he will. I don't care that way first season. Well, I suppose there may be a slight pass there. Well sure, but the point is just you're bringing over Tim Hardway Junior is making a
decent amount of money. So if he is terrible, if he's a net negative for your team, your GM should take a little bit of heat for that. Absolutely, your GM. Just because you've got a new GM doesn't mean you can't have high expectations. What's wrong with that. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think that's a compliment. I honestly believe you know what you're coming into a situation you're expected to win. Good answer
me this. When Scott Harris took the job, do you think he expected to win? Not immediately? Oh, he understood what he was undertaking. But he still wants to win, of course, whether he thinks he had the talent to do that yet or not. I don't know how much he's hamstrung by the purse strings by his owner. I don't know the answer to that. He will tell you he's not, which sets up a pretty bad
scenario. Don't tell me that he took over this role and said, yeah, our payroll is going to be one hundred and six million dollars and I can win with that. He doesn't have the cornerstone pieces to win with it. He wishes he had a Stephen Kwan, who's going to the All Star Game for the first time. He wishes he had Jose Ramirez, who's a regular All Star and should be one of the best players mentioned as one of the best players in baseball because he's really underrated, but he's phenomenal and you
locked him up. Those are the that's what you need. But the expectation is still there, and if it's not, get the hell out of the office. You hold them up to the top of the hour. You gotta play the hand, your dealt chep and I think you you hit them, but he helped make the hand. No, I'm agreeing with you. I think that's that's part of the issue. The party issue is he brought in certain guys. We'll get with more on the back end, and we've got some texts that we want to get to, so stay with us. It's
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