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The Best Thanksgiving Movies

Nov 28, 20241 hr 15 min
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Jason and Rosie are joined by Joelle to share their definitive list of the best Thanksgiving movies ever, from comedies to dramas to indigenous films and more! They also debate what exactly makes a good Thanksgiving movie. Is it just vibes? Is it the autumn season? Does the holiday have to play a central role?

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Speaker 1

Warning. Today's episode canday spoilers for lots of Thanksgiving movies, so listen, just be warned. Hello, my name is Jas Sconcepsio and I'm Wedsday Night and welcome back to Xtamage of the podcast where we dive deep into your favorite Jones movies, comics and pop culture. Company over by our podcasts. We're bringing three episodes a week, every New Day, Thursday, every episode every Wednesday, that's Tuesday, Wednesday extra episode, and Thursday three episodes.

Speaker 2

Awake in big boom boom, boom boom. In today's episode, we are defining gravity. We're not covering Wicked. Actually we're covering Thanksgiving movies.

Speaker 1

Yeah, break me down.

Speaker 2

Can you tell what we have been listening to? The Wicked soundtrack? We're not covering it, but it is coming out for this Thanksgiving holiday period. So if you want to go see it, go see it. If you want to hear us cover it in a discord, I guess leave a message. I'd be surprised but interested. In today's episode, we are going to talk about the aforementioned Thanksgiving movies, and we're going to start by asking what is a Thanksgiving movie? Does it need to be about Thanksgiving? When

does it need to be set? What does it need to be about? Is it just about vibes? Is it about content? Then we're going to go through each genre to create the ultimate Thanksgiving movie watch list, And finally we're going to do a rapid fire pick of our favorite Thanksgiving TV episodes.

Speaker 1

But first, previously on Okay Thanksgiving movies? What is a Thanksgiving movie? What constitutes a Thanksgiving movie? You've heard the debate is die Christmas movie? I say yes? So with the same kind of thing in mind, what constitutes a Thanksgiving movie? Joining us today, super producer Joel will be shared with lots of thoughts, lots of thoughts about movies, films in general, about the great art form of the cinema and how that great human art form intersects with

the uniquely American holiday of Thanksgiving. So first the debate, what makes a Thanksgiving movie? Tell me one, I put it to the group, how central to the plot must Thanksgiving be?

Speaker 2

I don't think it needs to be said. I don't think it needs to be central forefront. I don't think it.

Speaker 1

Let's say quick quote, Let's take a quick quote, and then let's and then we'll have people give their give their opinions. Who thinks it doesn't need to be central raise their hand, Okay, that's me and Rosie. So Joelle, since you are it must be central person, give us your give us your take. And what does central mean?

Speaker 3

So to me, central to the plot means it can't just appear in the movie. You can't be like a Thanksgiving scene or a mention of It must revolve around the idea of Thanksgiving, which to me can mean a lot of things. I don't buy into the American law of pilgrims fed indigenous people because that's stupid. I do love family gathering over food that makes them almost unconscious. I do love football and the sports element of it. I love the competition that is cooking the grandest meal

of the year. Like there's a lot of thematic elements of Thanksgiving that to me are pretty vital. I love Thanksgiving as just a gathering holiday. And I think that if you only have about a week of Thanksgiving right, like, if you think about it, Christmas is about months long in America, not other people do it. We get started very early. Our shops change, the music changes, we get the fakes know everywhere, like we love Christmas, it's about

two months. Halloween is about a month long. Because you're picking your costume, you're talking about it, You've got thirty one days of Halloween, you're watching your movies. You could do a thirteen days of Halloween if you wanted to. There's some variety depending on how you choose to celebrate. But that's what hallng. You have Thanksgiving, you good a week, one week to prepare your meals, so one week to watch your movies, and then it's jammed in between two

great freaking holidays. So there's just a lot of time to celebrate. So if you're doing a Thanksgiving movie, like, let's make it central to Thanksgiving, otherwise you have all of autumn to watch it. There plenty of time.

Speaker 2

Okay, I think that's a good argument.

Speaker 1

I'm not gonna lie Rosie Europe said, not central, not Rosie night.

Speaker 2

But I'm English in case you didn't know, right, And I do love Christmas in case you didn't know. So I look, I don't get Thanksgiving. I don't think there's very much to be giving thanksful.

Speaker 1

I do.

Speaker 2

I agree it is correct, beautiful time to gather with your family. I do agree with that. And the meal is very similar to English Christmas. So for me, I'm more of a Vib's movie watcher on this holiday, Like I want a movie that makes me feel cozy that I can enjoy to watch with my family. Now, if it has a Thanksgiving twist like some of the movies we will be talking about, especially in the horror genre, that can entice me. But I'm not gonna watch like

a Hallmark Thanksgiving movie, even though those do exist. But I will watch like one hundred Hallmark Christmas movies. So

for me, the centrality of Thanksgiving is different. But I am a seasonal movie watcher, like I have a TV antennette as if you listen to this podcast, you know, and I always will be watching when Easter comes round, I won't be in church, but believe I'll be watching every Jesus theme movie, like I will just be like, it's Easter, baby, I gotta watch this four hour Jesus special for coming away.

Speaker 1

You thought he was gone, Honey, he's back.

Speaker 2

I guess what. He's back, And it's the same, Like I will watch movies of this of this in this space around the Thanksgiving time, but I don't think it's central that said, I do think out of all the seasonal movies, I do believe that there are certain movies in this category that are the best of the best.

Like I actually do think when it comes to movies that are about Thanksgiving compared to movies that are about Christmas, I think Thanksgiving does have some that are up there with the best of Christmas movies, Halloween movies and everything else. So not central to me, but I understand why people enjoy them.

Speaker 1

Here's my tick. First of all, I want to say that Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. I'm from New York and I didn't know everything, and you know, as a New Yorker, I think one of my favorite things about this particular holiday season is seeing the diversity of New York City and seeing that everybody does something and they do it in our own way, which is wonderfully you know, like we cut it off from the kind of indigenous

propaganda roots, the American propaganda roots of the thing. What happens on the ground is you got all these different families from all these different places cooking their own things. Sometimes they have.

Speaker 3

Turkey involved in it.

Speaker 1

Sometimes turkey is like off to the side with lots of other fair and I just love that about the holiday, how every culture makes it their own. That. Now, let me say this, how central is the question. I believe personally that what constitutes a Thanksgiving movie is one the movie is set during the Thanksgiving season, which I defined to be November post October.

Speaker 2

Okay, I like that. It's a full it's a full movie.

Speaker 1

It's a fall movie, and it can be it can bleed into Christmas as the as we all know Thanksgiving. You know, just from a commerce sense, we are already looking towards Christmas by the time this season or two. The general themes of Thanksgiving, gathering your loved ones around you, making the best of things with the people who are around you, traveling, those kinds of themes. If those kind of themes are present in a movie set in November, I think that's a Thanksgiving movie. And there is an

obviously extra credit for do I see a turkey? Do I see a big family meal? I like that travel is the word Thanksgiving actually spoken? Like obviously those things increase the value. And then to just widen in a little bit, does the film take place during that particular November season. Does it involve either found family, actual family, or the like and three, does it involve something that

we associate with the experience of Thanksgiving. This widens it to a particular kind of sports movie, which is the college football.

Speaker 2

True true, true, true. I do think that counts the thame, and so I think that also widens it.

Speaker 1

So those are that's my particular take. I don't think Thanksgiving per se needs to be central, that the characters need to say, well, I gotta get hope for Thanksgiving. But I do think it has to have certain thematic markers that align it with the idea of Thanksgiving. Much in the same way that I consider Children of Men to be a Christmas movie.

Speaker 2

I love that that's a Christmas movie.

Speaker 3

When we get to Christmas movies we're gonna have to have.

Speaker 2

We're gonna talk about that because I think it would be so fun to make a movie of make a list of like the most depressing Christmas.

Speaker 1

I think that's a tremendously hopeful movie in the end. That is also.

Speaker 2

And it's one of the best movies ever made. It is no question.

Speaker 1

Let's not get sidelined, but it is it rings with the power of prophecy.

Speaker 3

That movie, yeah, horrifyingly.

Speaker 1

So. Now let's get into it. Let's get into what films do we how do we want to do this? Do we want to go genre? Do we want to give our favorites? Or do we want to do it?

Speaker 3

So I thought we could go by genre, maybe just calling out the titles and then many of them if any of us wants. If the goal is the ultimate list, we'll just pick which one.

Speaker 1

Should go on the list of the Okay, let's start with horror. It's a a genre which I think only recently we've begun to truly associate with Thanksgiving. As the twenty twenty three's titular Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2

Which began as you know, a fake tray law in the grind House double feature by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez, directed by Eli Roth, it dove into the breach of the market in efficiency that is Thanksgiving horror movies. I'm not gonna lie. This is a great movie, guys. I'm sorry. It's good Wheelhouse, lots of good kills, very funny characters you actually like to spend time with. I'm not a fan of Eli Roth as a person, but I am a fan of this movie. It's great.

Speaker 3

I had a good time watching it. I think the turkey, the woman being formed into a turkey to be roasted in the island, will stay with me for a long time.

Speaker 2

But I love the.

Speaker 3

It was horrifying, but the woman who was like rammed into a dumpster and then like launched onto the wall, Like the deaths are truly over the top. It's funny in such a ridiculous way. You get like a giant Thanksgiving paraded that's like creates an obstacle for them to try to get around. Like set pieces really work in this film, and it's a fun one to watch with

your family at Thanksgiving. Like as far as like if we put this on while Grandma's chilling and still working in the kitchen, she might be disturbed when she comes out of the kitchen, But as long as Grandma's still.

Speaker 2

Working in the back, Grandma and watch a horror movie.

Speaker 1

It's a wonderful modern slasher with the kind of grit and visceral violence that you associate with Eli Roth. But I know that this is a movie where someone gets baked to a turkey, but but without the You know a lot of Eli Ros's other movies which I enjoy, and cruelty to them, they make me feel bad on a cruelty level, like the the where you're like, God, the mind who came up with this is troubling. This doesn't have that. So while it balanced, it is, it balances,

it definitely is is. The is not the movie that you like, Grandma, sit down and watch this, but I think for everybody who's younger than grandma, they might enjoy it.

Speaker 2

I agree.

Speaker 1

Next up, Thanks Killing the trilogy, the Thanks Killing Trilogy.

Speaker 2

So glad that you put this, Joel, you are legend if you haven't seen ThanksKilling. It's like an evil Turkey puppet movie.

Speaker 1

That is.

Speaker 2

The tagline for this movie is Gobble Gobble, motherfucker and it says warning boobs in the first second on the cover. So this is like the ultimate low budget B movie, Killer Turkey.

Speaker 3

Five hundred dollars.

Speaker 1

I have to say, like subleprecaun, oh sub sub like cheap fucking.

Speaker 2

This is one of the weirdest things about getting older, right is the first one of these movies came out in like the Zeros, and it has lived long enough to become a true cult classic. I have to say, Hey, if you're looking for fun movies to show your family where everyone will be like, what is going on? Why did you put this on? What's wrong with you? This is a great one for that where everyone will enjoy watching it and it will like be like this is crazy,

but they will also be like side eyeing you. Next up the truly off Wow, could you even believe it exists?

Speaker 1

Amityville Thanksgiving? They somehow this the independent filmmaker got the h the avil license and.

Speaker 2

Now any yeah, and anyone can make them. So if you search Amateurville now on tub, you will find that there is Amateurville in space. There is Amateurville like underground, there is Amateurville somewhere else. And this is an Amateurville Thanksgiving movie. Crazy it and it is.

Speaker 1

I would describe it as, uh, half a home, like if you took the toxic Avenger and did it for even cheaper.

Speaker 2

Yeah, with like none of the vibus in one in one or two rooms. Yeah yeah, then that is amitibe Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1

Well.

Speaker 2

I love about this is like this is the kind of movie. It is on tub but hilariously like on Amazon it costs twelve ninety nine, so I know that just begging for people who don't you just see the word Amazonville and they're like, yeah, this is great, So can't say we recommend that one on a bad movie level. If you enjoy a bad movie, you may want to check it out.

Speaker 1

Next to Pilgrim twenty nineteenth Pilgrim on Disney and Hulu, which I have not seen a Blumhouse feature. Tell us about this one, Joelle, Yes, you.

Speaker 3

Know, I have not seen Pilgrim either, but I put it on the list because Reddit was like, this film is a good ass time. Uh it's based on a true story. Oh yeah, where it's like, you know, religious Pilgrims trying to teach their family a lesson about being thankful, is my understanding of it. I it's a movie that I watched the trailer for and I was like, I might give this a shot, but I don't know. If it's like a has to make the vos, I will say I so.

Speaker 2

I too have not watched this yet, but I do really like the series this is from, which is the Hulu horror anthology series Into the Dark, And they actually did a bunch of different seasonal movies. One of them was a New Year's movie that I thought was really really great, like it was like a take on wellness culture.

And kind of like a slasher in that vein And this is like a woman who invites pilgrim reenactors to stay with her family to teach them a lesson, but they just like won't break character and then things kind of turned deadly. So I think it sounds like a fun premise. Maybe we'll do like a little X ray vision watch party for that one. Ooh, I will talk about the final movie on our horror list because I didn't love this movie. Yeah, it's a great movie if

you're into slashers. This is definitely not one for grandma because this does not have that comedic side of the slash six slasher. Depressing, dark, bleak slasher set on Thanksgiving and it's about a woman and her son who are like stalked by the unhinged twin brother that was in a mental asylum and it's very it's very like Halloween. It has Ted Raimi in it. It was directed by John Grisma and written by Bruce Rubin. Like it's not

a well known one, but it is really cool. Starts with a really great, like all time great drive in sequence, and it's just like a really depressing but very good movie. And it has like one of the bleakest endings of all times. So I would say again, if you're looking for a depressing movie to watch this year, put this on. This can double up with a Children of Men.

Speaker 1

It reminds me of for the slasher fans out there, of the early eighties Canadian horror film. My Bloody Valentine has got some similarities, definitely similar that you flash for that kind of Halloween thing where you open in the past and you flash forward and the killings begin again in the modern day. It's got a very bleak ending as well, My Bloody So if you like My Bloody Valentine, you haven't seen blood Rage, you will enjoy blood.

Speaker 2

I was going to say, also, if you always revisit Black Christmas, yes, every year, this is a very similar kind of response to that, but in Thanksgiving. So yeah, just a great, great bleak movie.

Speaker 1

Yeah, next up the comedies, let's start with listen this. I think every he has the experience of you go home for Thanksgiving, big gathering, lots of folks can be stressful. Conversations around the house and around the dinner table could go left very easily. And so what do you have to do? You gotta you gotta you gotta roll one up, you gotta do it. My brother, Me and my brother

always say, hey, let's go for a walk. Let's go for a walk, to take less time to take a walk, to take a walk on thanksgivings, take a walk on a holiday.

Speaker 3

Gone.

Speaker 1

It's very strangth they've gone for a walk.

Speaker 3

I guess.

Speaker 1

That brings us to Digg's Giving. Yes, truly truly a movie for the season.

Speaker 2

A movie for the season. I love a movie that's just like Friends getting into Shanani, you know, like it's like there's all different versions of it. You know, you have your like after hours style version. Recently and Noora gave me this vibe obviously on a much higher level, but I love the ground level where you return home and then you're like, oh no, here am I annoying cousins who smoke loads of weed? What kind of shenanigans are we going to get into? And that is essentially

what this movie is. And I very much enjoyed watching this movie. When I first watched it last year, I thought it was a very fun, silly movie for the season.

Speaker 1

Next up a Jodie Foster picture. Oh hell yeah, Home for the Holidays. This is starring the wonderful Holly Hunter. This is like stage one Holly Hunter post broadcast news, when Hollywood was like I think Holly Hunter could be a star.

Speaker 2

I think she was a.

Speaker 1

Wonderful a wonderful time in movies, and a fun and kind of sad movie, very very very much.

Speaker 2

In that comedy drama y kind of space. Also, I would say as somebody and Joelle, I know you're in this space too, Jason. You also began this way as people who have had to write many articles about different times of the year and stuff like that, believe this is like a perennial, like maybe five six years ago, this was the Thanksgiving movie. Like there really wasn't that many conversations around any other movies rather than this and planes,

trains and automobiles. And so that was the first time I ever watched this was when I was researching about writing a list about Thanksgiving movies, and I just thought this was like such a good, sweet, layered movie. Like a lot of movies like this are very simplistic and they don't necessarily have that somber nature or that reality of the kind of melancholy of going home for the Holidays, but no surprises. Holly Hunter Jodi Foster. That's a team

that you can't question. And it's just a very delightful movie.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's it's funny and complex in the way that families can be complex.

Speaker 3

It is quite it is.

Speaker 1

There are notes of of melancholy throughout this film that I think makes it, uh makes it unique. And it's also I'm gonna read the cast because it's like an incredible nineties cast.

Speaker 2

I know. I was gonna say, we haven't even touched on some of the biggest people at the Holly Hunter.

Speaker 1

Midst like late early stage, Robert Downey Junior. This is like Trouble the beginning for Robert Downey Junior.

Speaker 2

The number one question I think this is.

Speaker 3

The only film he didn't stay sober.

Speaker 2

Google the number one question about this movie is is Robert Downey Junior high in Home for the Holidays?

Speaker 3

A well known answer is yes.

Speaker 1

The Wonderful, The Wonderful An Bancroft, Charles Dirting, Dylan McDermott nineties, Dylan McDermott.

Speaker 2

I'm a Dylan mc dummott fan. It's pretty And the other one who I always get confused with him, who's also been like a lot of kind of B movies, big fans about those guys.

Speaker 1

Uh A star of Police Academy and the cocoon series Steve Gutenberg Wow Time. Also as a notable cameo in Oh Why did I Just Blank? On the cater Waiter comedy show that I love Down, I love by Down, I love Claire Danes. This is Claire Danes. This is like young star Claire Danes coming off of uh, you know, start them on television and Romeo and Juliet Claire Danes, David strathairon.

Speaker 2

A young David stre what cost on an ensemble.

Speaker 1

It's a wonderful movie. Next up, I think this is my personal all time semon I can ca seminole Thanksgiving, This one I do watch every Yeah. I think it's one of the great two handers, you know, of all time Planes trains in Autaway also one of the greatest saddest reveals in fact. And I think that's I'm realizing that one of the things I really respond to and a Thanksgiving it a holiday movie, is that note of it should be about family, and there's always something sad.

There's always a sad story when you're thinking about family. And this is a wonderful movie in which John Candy's character is kind of blow hard, fast talking salesman type and Steve Martin, who is more buttoned up, resolve, reserved, kind of like business successful like businessmen end up smashed together in the chaos of holiday travel, trying to get home for the holidays, and all sorts of chaos ensues. It is wonderful. The reveal of which Rosie is talking

about is the end of the movie. John Candy's character makes a speech that got that got really truncated for the film, but was much longer when they when they shot it about in which he reveals his relationship to the holidays and to family. And it's like, it is such a gut punch after all the like hijinks and slapstick and hitting fucking deer and car accidents and and waking up cuddling each other high jinks that happened throughout the course of this movie to then get this heartbreaking reveal.

It's it's really great. It's a wonderful film.

Speaker 2

Yeah, truly, I just love that movie so much.

Speaker 1

Yeah, just John Hughes in his wheelhouse at this particular time. Next, Jim Henson's Turkey Hollow, Guys.

Speaker 3

One thing movie narrated Wanting Ludicris narrates this movie.

Speaker 2

Luda, I will say, I'm I'm obviously no, I'm sure it's not gonna surprise anyone. I love Jim Henson. He has a lot of fantastic holiday centric movies like Muppet Family. Christmas is my favorite that I always start watching way too early, so I did seek this out. It's as ridiculous as it sounds that Luda is in charge. It's called Turkey Hollow, but believe there is much more haunting

creatures to be had here than Turkey's. It gives me the vibe of like in the eighties, they made a lot of VHS adaptations like Made for TV but then sold on VHS BBC adaptations of different classic movies, including different classic books like you know, Lion Witch and Wardrobe and stuff, which we've talked about, but also Five Children and It which had this like incredibly haunting like sand Puppet, that was what the friends were, what the kids were

kind of friends with that would like grant their wishes. And this gave me that vibe because the character designs on this are so scary, so if you want to like weirdly horning Thanksgiving movie, just don't expect your usual Jim Henson quality, because this is modern day Jim Henson.

Speaker 3

It does called twenty fifteen, so Disney is fully in ownership of the Henson Company at this point, and it's definitely got those vibes. The monsters are called Howling who knows, but I will say local legend.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

Now you bring out Disney, it does kind of have decom vibes like Disney Shadel original movie. And I do love those vibes, so that might expe why I want.

Speaker 1

Next up. I love I love a surprise. I love a surprise. Old people hit Oh Me too, you know on Golden pand Co. Type shit and that and our version of this for Thanksgiving nineteen ninety three's Grumpy Old Men Love to Senior Citizen rom com with a fucking all star cast Jacque Women and Walter massw back again, the original couple back again so much, Davis, this is This is a wonderful film and the type of film that this is like in all the entire family type film.

Speaker 2

This is a good one, makes you like feel joy for humanity. To watch this movie like You're like, maybe everything can be okay, guys, like, maybe it can. If these can get along and Bone and Margaret, maybe we got hope.

Speaker 1

This is also did we get these? I guess like the film landscape has changed so much, but we used to get surprise old people hits all the time, like the first System, Like the first one I really remember as a kid was hearing about on Golden Pond. I had no idea what the big deal was, but I remember that was like a big movie. More recently, there was like a bucket list for Brady, like, oh, here's book Club. Yeah, the book Club. I love the bo is good and you get these? Does red count.

Speaker 3

Basically?

Speaker 2

Nowadays?

Speaker 3

I was citizens, So I'm gonna count.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna say, like nowadays, Eida of who is old is changing because like, yeah.

Speaker 3

But do look old?

Speaker 2

But honestly, like sixty, I'm like you could put some Marvel movies in there at this point, like let's we need to we need to get all the older people back into the cinema.

Speaker 1

Baby Grumpy Old Man is one of the classics of the genre, and in fact was such a hit that it got the sequel, Grumpy Old Thing.

Speaker 2

I own a double bill Baby. I earned both of those on DVD. Grumby Old Man and Grumpy Old Man. That's a good double bill.

Speaker 1

Next Uplion Wow, family Value. I think everything that we that we've talked about up top, for all of us, whether we agree that things we should be central or not central, I think this clicks. It's the puff every It hits every box. Just a fantastic movie. Barry Sonenfeld. I'm doing the damn thing than the first one, better

than the first one, and I completely agree. The wonderful Angelica Houston, the wonderful Real Julia, the wonderful Christopher Lloyd, Joanne Cusack doing the joey and iconic Reacie.

Speaker 2

This is like the psychonic maybe yeah, I mean kind of.

Speaker 1

Set for everything that Ricchie would do else.

Speaker 2

Also, it is a movie that I think for many people, both in America and outside of America, it's the first conversation that you see being had about the realities of Thanksgiving. Yes, like when they do it and she burns down the house and gives the speech and says, I will not break bread with you, Sarah Miller, like it's so.

Speaker 1

Absolutely love it it finally, Memed.

Speaker 2

And also like I watch this movie all year round many times. I just love it. It's one of my ultimate comfort movies. And I want to be Debbie Jelentski when I grow up, like I love her so much. Hell, I will always still watch it every time this season comes around, because I need that little bit of a fuck you and I need that like fun coziness that comes with it.

Speaker 1

I completely agree. There is something honestly really refreshing and that makes this movie timeless about the way it so trenchantly and in a really funny way, tears down the Thanksgiving propaganda, like when they make them go into like the friendship hut or whatever, like all these like yeah, different names for things and things that our Turkey named brotherhood like it's the name of the play, like it's

it's just wonderful. And Wednesdays like being so aggrieved it have to having to particip cipated in this ship is like it only gets better every time you like understand what's happening. It's a wonderful one. This is a great one. Yeah, next up, animated films. Let's start with I mean, I think we have to start with a Charlie Brown. Thanks.

Let's start with the classic a Charlie Brown Thanksgiving. My uh my fiance's brother's girlfriend who her family came out for Thanksgiving last year, and we were all hanging out and we were about to go on a walk, and she's like, well, we have to finish a Charlie Brown's Thanksgiving. Like we were in the middle of watching it. I have seen it five hundred times, but I get I.

Speaker 2

She's like, it's only thirty minutes long, guys, I also understand.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it is truly truly a classic film.

Speaker 2

Truly a classic film. Also, like rightfully, I think like Memed for some of like the weirder choices they make throughout the.

Speaker 3

Movie, putting on black on one side.

Speaker 2

Of thea like what are you doing? But it's a huge I like that it has become part of the cultural conversation and and kind of like people can love it while still like lovingly critiquing it. Also like why is that dog cook in your dinner?

Speaker 3

Bro?

Speaker 2

Like why are you? Why are you letting the dog cook? But still I love Snoopy and this is one of those ones to me that's like a little bit lower down than like a Charlie Brown Christmas or Merry Christmas. Charlie Brown, whatever it's called, because I watched that one every single time. This one and the Halloween one where like half of it is just snoopy, like imagining he's in World War two, like sure, bro go off. Those two don't necessarily give me the same vibe, but I

do still. I still watch this every year. I always give my love to Franklin and just really feel him for him. But but it's a classic. You know you gotta watch it.

Speaker 1

Next up Wes Anderson's stop motion masterpiece Fantastic Mister Fox, his last good movie question Mark.

Speaker 2

I agree, I can come.

Speaker 3

I mean probably yeah, maybe, bet yeah. I mean the behind the scenes of that movie, just the way they're just shooting at someone's house.

Speaker 2

He actually the you are inspiring me, Joel, because I do think amazing part for me of a good Thanksgiving movie is like does it have good DVD extras? Like can you watch like find the scenes afterwards?

Speaker 3

That's why for me, a lot of them, imagine like Jason Schwartzman and uh George Clooney like really attacking each other like they crack out. At what point they're just on a tractor yelling over each other like it's very strange the way they chose to do audio for this, but you can sense the fun of those performances within the film and stacked cast. Stacked cast is part of a great Thanksgiving movie. Well, but Meryl Streep is in this joint.

Speaker 1

I mean, I'll say this, It's just I'll say this when a name director does a film, an animated film or stop motion film, that that the roles can just be voice rolls invariably stack the people come through almost every time.

Speaker 3

And this is truly like a This is a great script to like the relationship between the Foxes and their marriage and exploring like what that means, Like you really feel for George Clode's character that.

Speaker 2

His role is like a dad and like what that means to be a dad and stuff like I do want to say, I do think, well you did include. I just want to shout out this movie because I think it is one of the most arranged movies ever made. Originally, this list it include Free Birds, which, by the way, in case you don't know, is a plot about the turkeys going back in time to the first Thanksgiving Turkeys

played by Woody Harrison and Ian Wilson. By the way, speaking of big names, cgi Turkey's going back to the first Thanksgiving to take turkeys off the menu. Guys, if you're making a movie in the modern day going back to Thanksgiving and changing something that is not what it should be and it highlights a lot of issues with your movie, I will just say deranged idea and just like absolutely silly movie that people don't talk about for a reason because it's just very silly.

Speaker 1

By the way, on script writing duties are mister Wes Anderson and Jennifer Jason Lee. You're a Noah bombak oh and of course from a story rules the relationship that's you know, Noah bomback.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah, and that was one of my favorite. That was one of my favorite Roldar books when I was a kid too.

Speaker 1

Let's move on your drama, shall we shall we get dramatic, Let's get mac Let's do it first up the Katie Holmes Vehicle. Two thousand and threes Pieces of April.

Speaker 2

I will say another surprisingly seo friendly Thanksgiving movie, because there were not a lot of Thanksgiving movies in this era, and this one is really up there with this is like Home for the Holidays made you know, almost a decade later, it's like Katie, she's she's in her punk era. She's done go, like she's got a little color in her hair. She's gone to the Sallie's and she's gotten some semi permanent dye to piss off her family. But yeah,

definitely an interesting one. When I first watched it, I think Katie Holmes was trying to take more interesting roles at this point, like post Dawson's Creek. And it's like a wayward daughter invites her dying mother and the rest of her strange family to her apartment for Thanksgiving dinner my own personal hell, there's a.

Speaker 3

Vo I would never do it, truly, truly, Well, I really like about this movie as a Thanksgiving movie. If you've have gone through the experience of trying to host a Thanksgiving, it is so daunting because your food has to be on point. Do you own enough chairs at this young tender age, I got my chairs from the sidewalk, okay, and neighbor throughout the chair.

Speaker 2

Do you have enough things? Probably things to put the food in when it's on the table. Why are you serving the food is? Do you even have enough pots to cook it? Also, people have been looking forward to this all year. This is like a beacon in the light, a beacon in the dark of a tough year, is like what are you gonna do? What are you gonna eat? Who are you gonna be with?

Speaker 1

Like?

Speaker 2

And it does really encapture that aspect of it.

Speaker 1

I will say that I think this is a film also that this is before the Manic Pixie dream Girl was really a true thing that we became a air of the trope, and I think it wouldn't be until Garden State, which.

Speaker 2

I think absolutely faster, started.

Speaker 1

That people started to really talk about it. And so I think one of the great things of Pieces of April is this is this is a character is a pro too, but not fully baked in the tropes.

Speaker 2

Of that particular exists in her own story. Yes, this is definitely a surprise in the list of kind of the ones that have gone down and become classics. But I think it's rightfully there.

Speaker 1

Next up, two thousand and eight, An Old Fashioned Thanksgiving ob Joelle, please tell us about the Hallmark Channel production An Old Fashioned Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2

Oh Thanksgiving Movies?

Speaker 1

Well, listen, but my friend Peter, who I worked on on the show that we wrote on together, Primo that is. You can watch it on Amazon Prime Video right now. He worked on He's like a you know, he co created Wizards, way re placed, Like he's been writing a long time. His his like sideline gig, like quick gig for like pretty good money. Is he and his wife write Hallmark movies.

Speaker 2

Yes, that's the vibe.

Speaker 1

It's they write Hallmark movies and they do it in like a week.

Speaker 2

Yeah, oh no, not just that.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it was well, that's perfect exactly.

Speaker 2

And that because it's a nine act structure, it's a it's basically a formulaic script. And also the holiday movies there was a great kind of expose or like a deep feature but with the non sources maybe twenty twenty or twenty nineteen at THHR, where it was like you can earn sixty thousand dollars a script if you're doing them in the height of the holiday season. So believe I have many homemarkspect script because I'm ready for that side.

Speaker 3

Woman in Hollywood who has a medium to low level of success around June will start looking for their homark holiday movie to start in they're exceedingly successful. And this one is kind of cute. So it's based off of a short story by which.

Speaker 2

We'll be talking more about La.

Speaker 3

So it's a really good place to start. Recently widowed mother struggles to feed three children. Angry grandma shows up almost holiday.

Speaker 2

I love it when a man is fridged. I love it when a woman is. I love it when a woman is a widow. I hate when a man is a widow. I don't care. But if a woman is a widow, or is it the other way around, I don't remember. But guess what, I like it when a man is fridge. So I appreciate that.

Speaker 1

And the mom's a.

Speaker 3

Jaque Linbissett, and that's pretty. Uh, there's a lot to love about this if you're into Hallmark movies.

Speaker 1

Next up Steve Carell's First I Believe First Foray into I can do serious roles, Yes, Guy, Dan in Real Life two thousand and sevens Dan in Real Life about a struggling a newspaper advice columnist who has lost his wife and is trying to raise his kids. And it's funny and sad, starring Steve Carell, Juliet Binoche, Dane Cook's Hollywood Still at this time, trying to make Dane Cook happen.

Speaker 2

Oh, they were still trying to make Fat Chapham with him still.

Speaker 1

And one of my all time favorites, Allison pill Dan in real Life not my favorite movie, but I think a worthy inclusion in this In this move, does anyone have any strong feelings about Dan in real life?

Speaker 3

A truly unhinged film. Imagine showing up to Thanksgiving and trying to steal your brother's girlfriend and then it actually works in the whole family. It's like, yeah, let's kind of make this school.

Speaker 2

That is such a funny trope that is also sleepless in the how it's also moonstruck, Like being in love with your partner sibling is definitely like a weird, unhinged rom com trope. But you know what, I love to watch it. I love to watch the mess.

Speaker 3

It's kind of like The Family Stone, where it's like this movie is chaotic and insane, but in a way that your family might also be chaotic and insane, and so you're like, you know, vibes are here, it's working.

Speaker 1

What do you do if you're what do you do if you're attracted to your siblings partner? I think you have to like move across the world.

Speaker 3

Excuse saying you need to.

Speaker 1

I think you need to do everything you can to not be a one hundred mile radius of your family. Yeah, not show up.

Speaker 2

Sorry, guys, I can't come to Thanksgiving this year. I'm busy.

Speaker 3

Like you, don't you give yourself, put yourself.

Speaker 2

In the position of being attracted to your partnicipity. Don't ignore it.

Speaker 1

Don't do that whip listen. Uh, crushes can be hard. You've got to kill it. Crushes are meant to be killed. You need to go away, be killed.

Speaker 2

You can.

Speaker 1

You need to go away. You need to take yourself out of the radius of that person, the charm radius, and then you need to take your your look inside yourself, take that crush, that attraction, and like drown it in a bathtub until it's gone.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Literally, guys, you can don't.

Speaker 1

Like what happens. Don't let it happen.

Speaker 2

That stup.

Speaker 1

Oh my god, great movie. Hand and her sisters.

Speaker 2

Wow, these men. I love these women. You know what I think of being a person like Woody Allen is your work and the important work of other people that was done can get ignored. Is just women? These women? Are you mad? This is what a movie.

Speaker 1

This is a wonderful wonderful film told in a really interesting kind of intersecting arcs Way and the cast Michael Caine, Mia Farrow, Carrie Fisher, Barbara Hershey, Daniel Stern, Maxweon set Out, Diane Weeze, Max like so much, a young Julia.

Speaker 2

Luis, Carrie Fishaw like, come on, guys, like this is just so.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's it's yeah. I think you make women about Woody Allen's being a piece of ship, totally ruining the great work of many other people. Uh, but this is a great movie. This is a wonderful movie. Steal it or something from the or get it from the library, or get it the.

Speaker 2

Library, your local library, some women and be indeed by it by some.

Speaker 1

Next up here we go, Okay, correct seasonal watches.

Speaker 3

I think this is right.

Speaker 2

This is the correct answer.

Speaker 1

And in fact, I think it's got everything. It's found family, it's got a journey, delicious food, It's got delicious, it's gon delicious, absolutely to tatoes. And I think it works. I think it works for both for the entire season, all the way to Christmas.

Speaker 3

That is Lord of the.

Speaker 2

Rings, oh baby, and it has found DVD extras. I have decisive sensation icive memories of being a family gatherings for like Boxing Day the day after Christmas, something that no one else celebrates, part from English people, but you would go like we were at a family event and all day it was just Lord of the Rings Extended and then Lord of the Rings special features from the DVD, and that definitely has held a place in my heart of like, it.

Speaker 3

Hurt me to put this on the list because I think, if it is, it's like movie. But but if we're re vibing with the thematically correct, we get some great optumnal scenes throughout this trilogy where it's reds and golds and it's really opening.

Speaker 2

Is like so cozy and so much about like returning, especially in the extended edition.

Speaker 1

I love.

Speaker 2

That's my favorite part of the of those movies.

Speaker 3

It fits, it fits if you watch it.

Speaker 1

It's not as well mash them put them in a super minister baby and if you if you, you don't need us tell you.

Speaker 2

A lot of brings is about if you're listening to this podcast, yeah.

Speaker 1

You know what i'd this is an interesting one.

Speaker 2

I agree with Keith. I'm a Rocky I'm a Rocky Redick movie.

Speaker 1

Now it opened November twentieth, nineteen seventy six.

Speaker 2

So so it is.

Speaker 1

Set in the You see Christmas stuff in the on the houses and on in various scenes, and it's clear that it is in the season. I think, and you got a found family here, family finding the people who will care about him and protect him as he goes on this journey to find the story Underdog, wonderful Underdog story.

Speaker 2

I like it. I take it around the winter. I love this movie. I just it gives me such good vibes. It makes me feel like nostalgic because this is the stuff that we were like growing up on. I also just think it's like such a fantastic movie and no surprise to anyone. I also love the really maligned latest sequels with like Robots and Shiit.

Speaker 1

I like them all.

Speaker 3

Absolutely. And I also think just for a life. But I also think as far as like you know, if your family is the kind of family that will debate down what to watch and then you end up watching almost nothing, Rocky is something that will quickly be like okay, yeah, exactly. The dad will be with the nostalgia a.

Speaker 2

Hopeful picka because that is a great idea of why to choose this movie. It's like, you don't need to argue. If you suggest Rocky, the family's probably gonna say yes. Oh I love that. That's a high. That's a high reason to pick this movie.

Speaker 1

Next up, Oh man, I agree with this one as well.

Speaker 2

Wow, I love this one.

Speaker 1

Now we are I guess we should have clarified, but I'm gonna clarify it now. I believe we're talking about the original, correct, Joel, This would be Yes nineteen ninety five's absolute fucking banger, absolute bang bang a Bamjie. Oh my god, I love Jumanjie. Robin Williams. It is like peak late stage comedic, Robin Williams, a young Christian Dunce Bonnie Hunt who I haven't seen it while who I loved this is a fantastic movie. And you know what

it's about. It's about a board game that that guy gets trapped in, comes out, and then it's a magical board game and then they fall into it and it's a wonderful movie.

Speaker 2

There's something about the mythological like folkloric like mystical side of this that I think is the perfect pick for a holiday Thanksgiving into Christmas movie like there's something about that magical realism and that kind of like anything can happen that I feel like a lot of us feel when we're kid's about the season. And I think that is another reason why this is just a really great pick.

Speaker 3

Oh, such great whimsy against the opening and I was read it it's like it's a Thanksgiving me because the holiday that the kids trying to get his dad to go like start at the beginning of the movie is Thanksgiving and then it ends on christ Okay, I was like, Jumanji's for the win, then let's go. I'm here for it.

Speaker 1

Directed by Joe Johnston, who would give us the director of Captain America, the First Avenger.

Speaker 2

Also the Rocketeer I love, like very specific to me, Like I feel like they show that a lot on British TV when it's the holidays, so I always feel like that's another I just in my mind bang a cannon that I just in my.

Speaker 1

Mind had a had a like a visceral striking memory unlock of Jennifer Connelly her cocktail gown in the scene of the rock incredible film. Wonderful movie. Up next, how about a classic hair movie, Brad Pitt, He's not gonna get caught. Okay, he's not gonna get caught in the Orlando bloom Strap where he grows his hair out. In the Beautiful Luscious, it's nineties correct as grunges crusting over the globe. It's beautiful blonde locks with the beautiful texture.

He's not gonna get trapped by those locks. But highlights were the highlights. There was rich like it looks like fields of wheat coming off of this man's head. But he's not gonna be trapped by that. But what he's gonna do is gonna give you one of the great long hair movies of all time, Legends of the.

Speaker 3

Fall, another movie where brothers are fighting over the.

Speaker 2

Like just like you know, just like please.

Speaker 1

I loved, I go fucking loved Legends of the Fall, and I remember this was I believe it was. Legends of the Fall was the movie that was out when Brad went on the cover of Rolling Stone with the long hair like draped down his chest. I believe it was promo for that film, and I remember seeing that and going, God, it's not fair to everybody else that there's a guy that looks this good.

Speaker 2

Oh you know what, I think it was legends of the full interview with the Vampire time, Okay, so I think it was. It was both, and yet at the legends of the full premiere he had that really famous like he just showed up in like a gray T shirt with like a rawly cut neck and this like long bleach blonde hair.

Speaker 1

Yeah, just a fantastic uh A. It's not my favorite movie. I think it's a little of a Maudlin movie, but it is a visual tone poem. I love Edswick. I think Edswick has done some of you know, I love Glory. I love the classic White Savior picture. Last Saburai.

Speaker 2

Well, I will say I.

Speaker 3

Can't watch Last samurais bizarre.

Speaker 2

I will also say, while this movie does also have like a little bit of those tendencies, it's definitely quite an early American movie to be like questioning the way that indigenous people would treat it in America, Like that's like a major point of the poll is like that that is bad. So I think that is like interesting in that way, and.

Speaker 1

It's done in a classically Hollywood for this time way in which that is certainly discussed without any Native people.

Speaker 3

Being present.

Speaker 1

Just be happy with the fact that the white people are thinking about it, they're thinking about they're thinking about bad about it.

Speaker 3

Call that progress.

Speaker 1

Oh next up, I completely agree.

Speaker 2

Wow, well pit, this is when we.

Speaker 1

Talk about the reason that college football would be in this It makes total sense that this film Rudy would be part of it. I think the classic movie for an Anyboddy who likes sports in any kind of way. Rudy is like the classic underdog story, true story of a young guy walks on at Notre Dame to much acclaiming success named.

Speaker 2

Rude Rudy, Rudy, Rudy.

Speaker 1

A great Thanksgiving picture.

Speaker 3

Oh man, teamwork, coming together, overcoming the obstacles, gratitude, Like there's so much love for Rudy so that he can make that play at the end, Like it's just it makes your heart feel I'll cry right now. I love Rudy.

Speaker 2

I also like, I just love Sean Austin and I love to have him getting like more recognition, even if the films that he made, you know, over twenty years ago. But like this man has.

Speaker 1

Done a lot the goodies from Goody's to now yeah, stranger things, uh, you know, not even talking about Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 2

Hello, Like I just not Yeah, I like a sports movie, you know, it was something definitely newer to me. In England. Sports movies are like a foot factory where it's just like a bunch of people being like football, the guns, but the kind of up the uplifting sports movie, The Rocky, the Rudy. That has been a great joy to discover. And I think you're right. I think it's right that this one is in the Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3

All the men in your family cry, yeah, is that a tear?

Speaker 1

They start thinking about how you know, if I hadn't blown up my knee.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I could have been.

Speaker 3

Heard, would have seen your dad back in the day?

Speaker 1

Is Boxing Day? For people who don't understand what it is to tell us about the wonderful Boxing Day is.

Speaker 2

The day after Christmas. It's the twenty sixth of December. And what is the purpose of it? Honestly, like you just sit around and just like watch movies and eat food, eat leftovers. It's basically official second Christmas. Like that's really the best thing is like what really I thought you

were wrapping? Present? Name does come from that? Which is basically like on the twenty six you're supposed to like donate gifts to those in need, but really most people nowadays it's definitely like English Black Friday, but like pre Black Friday, like it's always when the sales are off

and agreed. And also I think as well they they do like it's it's also was hilariously a part of just trying to make sure that Christmas and then the bank holiday that would follow it would always be on like weekdays to make sure that people are getting time off. So yeah, but really nobody knows why it's called Boxing Day.

That's just there's lots of funny like ephemeral rumors, but it is like a big part of British Christmas tradition and it is nice because it basically just means like in England, there's always great TV programming on Boxing Day. It's recognized as like a continuation and it's just like ie stayed to hang out with your family and eat leftovers,

so it's just like official hangout day basically. But yeah, and that is where I got to see a lot of classic movies like The Rocketeer, one of my old favorites, returned to OZ like they would always do lots of reruns on those days, So it was definitely like a big a big deal for me.

Speaker 1

Finally in this category. Another big deal for me, A modern classic Greta Gerwigs. Some Little Women truly.

Speaker 2

Am changed my life, no joke, a great one.

Speaker 1

I had, no wait, how did you change your life?

Speaker 2

Have no interest in Little Women in England. Little Women is not a book they give you to read. It's not part of the literary canon. It is not part of growing up. I went and reviewed it for IGN, and I walked onto that studio lot in the morning like, oh, because I wasn't a huge like Lady Bird, didn't really hit for me in the same way it did for other people. And I was in there and I'm jostling around,

little mumbling in my mouth. And by the end of the movie where they're binding that book, I am just like in absolute floods of tears. Now I have watched every version of Little Women. I love Little Women. Yes, it's still my favorite version. Though there was a really, really great I think it was unbelievably I think it was Lifetime. But there was a version that they did or maybe PBS Masterpiece actually, but there was a version they did that had Ethan Hunt's daughter in it. I

mean not Hunt. Oh, that's a fake character from Mission Impossible. It had it had ethan very famous guy, his daughter is and Hawk's daughter in it, a real person.

Speaker 1

What if it had what if it was actually part of the Mission Impossible.

Speaker 2

Let's talk about that, because I want that.

Speaker 1

I want that to be real.

Speaker 2

But there was a really good version that almost is like up to this for me, which was like a four part mini series thing yea, and she played. I do love that version. But because I think This Little Woman was the first one that I ever saw and like properly watched, I just love it so much. Also, hilariously, I showed it to Nick to try and be like, look, I love Little Women now, and he was like, what you're talking about? But then he was like, wait a minute.

This entire movie was filmed in Harvard, where I grew up, like in this tiny little town, and so that was really surreal for him. But yeah, I love this movie. I watch it every year. I watch it more than that. I just think it's an unbelievable piece of filmmaking. And it introduced me to this great literary canon and I'm more like in depth understanding of Louis and may Olcott, who she was the radical nature of a lot of what her and her family did. So yeah, no, I

love this one. I think it's one of the best movies made in the last like twenty years.

Speaker 3

I love the Internet conspiracy. Conspiracy is too strong word, but like theory that the twenty nineteen version of Little Women is a fall film, while the nineteen ninety for version of Little Women.

Speaker 2

Is absolutely right. Sometimes you're just right.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I'm absolutely embracing this theory with my whole heart. This is for for the girls who want to be writers when they grow up. Aluisi Alcott really tapped into our spirits. It gave us a lot to hope for and to strive for. And Greta's version of the ending of that film that's so wink nudge yeah, so about like what Luisa May had to do to sell these books. I was like, Wow, it's really it's a powerful movie. You can't help it tear up. I too, was like,

I already have a perfect version of this movie. No one tempted me. I was very crotchety about it, and then I finally watched it. I said, I I get why.

Speaker 2

It was so it's so good, Like I think it was honestly that it wasn't as sweet, but the oscars like it's so fucking good.

Speaker 1

I am of the personal opinion that stories like uh like Little Women should just come out every fifteen years. I just do another and this generation just do another.

Speaker 2

Grea same with like Secret Garden. I don't know if that was, but like, just yes, Christmas, Carroll guys a classic ver reason. This will be on our manifesto of like, how can you make movies? Do another one? Uh.

Speaker 1

Finally and importantly, uh, indigenous movies to watch during this holiday season. Let's start with you can watch it on Apple TV Plus right now. Fancy Dance, Rosie. You believe this is an oscar, This is an awards season.

Speaker 2

It should be an awards season, gem. I believe it should be getting the same kind of hype that a movie like Lady Bird gets or something. It's basically a troubled sister tale, a bit of a road trip, and it's got Lily Gladstone, and it's basically just such a great, beautifully made movie. And I feel like in a few years it's gonna be one of those movies where I've like, why didn't this win all these awards? Because it's basically

about the realities of being an Indigenous person. It's about Indigenous women going missing, It's about Indigenous people in the foster care system. It is about doing something like really really important with your family that no one else can understand. And it is also like it's not like an easy watch, but it is like a really important watch, and I

just think it's ridiculous it's not. I was kind of hoping that after Lily got snubbed by the Oscars for her starring role in the Martin Scorsese film Killers the Flower Moon, I was hoping that this would be the makeup you know sometimes they do the makeup Oscar. I was kind of hoping, but that did not happen, and I just I still think it's like shocking that it wasn't more acclaimed a newer movie came out this year

that I also think this is a fun movie. This one is fun, and I do think has like a wider audience potential, and I think it's going to find that audience on Netflix. The thing about Fancy Dance, Apple TV plus everything on there is fantastic, honestly, but like nobody has it compared to like Netflix, where there's a lot more up and down in the nature of quality, but a lot of people have it. I hope Brisbell finds its audience, just like a good sports movie, which

shouldn't shouldn't we all love a good sports movie. Isn't that exactly what we were talking about? Like, it's based on a true story, two different true life accounts, and it is just like, yeah, I just, I just I was. I thought this was a really great movie that kind of played with the notions of what we expect from a sports movie, but is not an expected story.

Speaker 1

Next up a movie that should almost be on our first category. This is the indigenous horror film Blood Quantum.

Speaker 2

Yes, made by They're Sadly Departed Jeff Barnaby. He was just such a wonderful person. They're a fantastic filmmaker. It's on shutter. I recommend this movie like at least once a year, but it really is that good. It's about a zombie apocalypse where the only people who are not impacted are people who live on the mickmh res And it is so good and it is just a brutal ninety minute horror classic and I love it. And yeah, RIPJFF, you are missed. This movie is incredible.

Speaker 1

Next up when Sundance, when the Sundance Awards, when the Sundance Film Festival was really starting to in the late nineties early two thousands. This is one of the films that I think you closely associate with that movement. It's a great movie. Smoke signals, this is a wonderful picture. Welle, I love this movie.

Speaker 2

I love this movie so much.

Speaker 3

This was Rothy's pictures. I completely It's.

Speaker 2

Such a great movie. It's like to come in with a little bit of a little bit of a take, you know, when it's Thanksgiving, I'm like, gotta talk about some Indigenous movies. But yeah, I mean, what a movie, what a picture.

Speaker 3

It's such a cultural like eye opener, Like I if I didn't know anything about Reds life or what that meant specifically when this movie came out, like there was not a lot within news or pop culture to give you any sense of what that life would be like.

This is such a for many Indigenous filmmakers. They talk about this movie being like a seminal moment for them that really changed their lives or inspire them to get into filmmaking or encourage them to do that and It's such a beautiful film about like friendship and like coming together and it's f.

Speaker 1

Y.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's don't.

Speaker 2

Get to be funny. You don't get to do like a funny road trip. But I think that this really has that in a way that is like just very touching.

Speaker 1

We'll be right back after a word from a sponsorship. Yeah, finally TV series that evoke Thanksgiving. And the only one person in this on this fucking session could have picked the first TV show on his list, Joel, Joel, what is your There's no one that loves Bob's Burgers.

Speaker 2

Joe Joel to fucking write Bob's Bogus because this pitch loves Bob's vogus, love Telly Guy.

Speaker 1

Bob's Burgers evokes Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2

It doesn't have an iconic thanks Tavings, it.

Speaker 3

Said it does. He do not watch Bob Burger okay. I would say every season almost has a Thanksgiving episode. They are classics. I wait for them all year. I think it was last season where they didn't do one and I was stark, raving mad. I was like, what has happened? Where is Bob at things happening? I love Bob because he loves food right. Like Bob has such a passion for like getting food right and feeding people and like the nurturing, and like he just loves food

and making it right. And I'm a big like foodie, and I love chefs. And there's something very precious about somebody who's like, I'm going to run this Hamburger sands. I don't really care if it makes I seem to make enough to get my kids through life. I just I'm here for this passion I have. So that's one thing. Two Thanksgiving his favorite holiday, because why wouldn't it be? And three they do some of their most heartwarming heartwarming

it sounds like worms. I don't like it. It feels good to watch these things stuck in the kitchen with you. From season twelve, It's episode eight is my favorite. Bob's Thanksgiving, which might be controversial. It's not everyone loves in a nursing.

Speaker 2

That's the one I've been told Jerkima cann is very popular.

Speaker 3

That's the one where Bob keeps making Thanksgiving turkeys and somebody is putting them in toilets and can't figure out who or why it is driving him mad. Uh, there's a bisexual awakening or alerting to the audience, like, oh, Bob's kind of into dudes. That's cool in that episode, and it's very funny, and there's a lot of Donna Summer singing. It's a great episode, don't get me wrong. But stuck in the kitchen with you. I love Bob and Louise. That's my favorite pairing. I really love that

she's a daddy's girl without being princessy about it. That's really interesting. I don't think you get to see that a lot. And her mom, they go to a nursing home because Linda's like, listen, guys, we have to give back to the community. Louise Straw's a short straw. She has to help her dad, who's a monster on Thanksgiving because he wants to get it right, and so he keeps taking all these jobs and Louise is like, I don't even understand why you like this holiday? What is

going on? You don't make room for me, And Bob's learns to understand that, like, I am ruining this holiday by being such a perfectionist. There's room for my kid to have fun with me and share this space with me. And they feed an entire nursing home I think it's really precious. I worked in a nursing home for a while when I was a teenager, and getting to sort of reexperiencing that through this episode. They get it very very right. There is no resources, there are many mouths

to feed. It's a little bit chaotic, but it's also like a very loving setting. I really love this episode. I watch it every year. I think it's precious.

Speaker 1

Next up a show that really staked out Thanksgiving as a time for special episodes and has enough Thanksgiving episodes for there to be a list of the best ones.

Speaker 2

Even in England they would show these episodes and it's funny because like a iconic thing of like the turkey on the head, which, by the way, I just want.

Speaker 1

To this is Friends, by the way we're talking.

Speaker 2

We're talking about Friends, guys, But the iconic thing of the turkey on the head with the glosses, I just want to say, mister Bean did that first, guys, Bob, Like even that was like so instantly recognizable in England, Like they would reshow these episodes over and over again, so they definitely have that holiday tinge for me.

Speaker 1

I mean, Brad Pitt is in one of the late Stage Friends Thanksgiving episodes which which just gives you an idea of the pull and the cultural impact, and they really just dominated Thanksgiving. So watch any of those classic watch any of those classic of Thanksgiving Friends episode. Now Cheers, if I recall correctly did two Thanksgiving specials, and.

Speaker 2

I so season five, episode nine. This is a Thanksgiving episode that I seek out because to me, it one. I love Cheers like so much, the greatest.

Speaker 1

I think it's the greatest sitcom ever mad It's so good in the non in the non Seinfeld, Seinfeld is too weird.

Speaker 3

This is o thing.

Speaker 1

Seinfeld is his own thing.

Speaker 2

But also I was the best best it come I've made, except for Primo, which you can watch now on Amazon Video. But yeah, I watched this episode because it's it's like it's all of them based. It's called Thanksgiving Orphans, and it's basically like all of them end up at Carla's house and it like sucks and it's like stressful and they're funny about it and they end up having this

big food fight. But like it sums up that feeling to me of like I get really I can get really stressed about like anticipation of like what I want a holiday to be like, and this like sums up that feeling of like what does it feel like when it doesn't go the way you want? But how you can still find joy in those moments?

Speaker 3

So I do.

Speaker 2

I I really like this episode. That's definitely up there for me as when I seek out when the holiday comes around.

Speaker 1

Well, we hope that you've had as much fun listening to this as we have had doing it.

Speaker 2

Very fun.

Speaker 1

We wish everyone in our audience a wonderful and stress free Thanksgiving. May you take, May you take a may the may the company be wonderful, May the food be delicious and satisfying. And may your walk around the block be as stress relieving as as it needs to be.

Speaker 2

Take a few walks. Why not? Twenty twenty twenty first been a hot yea, guys.

Speaker 1

It's been very, very very On the next X Ray visions, we'll be back Monday, of course, when Carmen and Joel began a weekly review of Robert Egger's films in order to get ready as we count down to the Christmas release of tues Now once again, Noos Fair Too is back with us Tuesday, we'll begin a weekly recap of media in twenty twenty four. Sorry with comics and novels. That's it for this episode. Next for Listening by x ray Vision is hosted by Jason Kensumsion and Rosie Knight

and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer is a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent and Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez.

Speaker 2

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