Secret Invasion Ep 5

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Secret Invision, we're stepping out of the airlock and into the beautiful, gray, radioactive fields of news scrollos for Secret Invasion episode five, Harvest, directed by Ali Slim, written by Michael Bim and Brian Tucker. We start right at the where we ended essentially in the previous episode, the attack on President Ritzon's convoy. Ritzen now arrives at the hospital. Just Nick Fury wheeling the President of the United States

Maybe he'll surprise us in the finale, but for now, rip to that scirl, rip to that scroll.

Gravic is then like, hey, guys, you all fucked up. This is on you. We were supposed to kill the president. We didn't kill the president, and that's your bad. That has nothing to do with me, that's all you. And then his his warriors are like, well, hold on a second, we killed Taylos. Is that not like something to celebrate.

Like you didn't do that.

You've been trying. You didn't do that, You've been trying to do it for years. And he's like, uh no, it was the mission was the president. The nuclear war starts when we killed the president, not Taylor. Yes, Taylos, we got him, but like that doesn't start the war, which is the whole thing. And then uh and then his warriors are like, well, maybe you should have stolen the mysterious stuff, which turns out to be Avengers DNA.

Yeah.

R Pizza Pagan actually a major player in the Marvel Universe version of Secret Vasion. He was the scroll who impersonated Electra. He was Ranke's lover, but here he's a nobody and he died with grew armed Rib's you you got killed by a tree?

This is First of all, I'll start with this. I do respect the body count, but it's wild the way they just people die and it's just like a throwaway death. Like you're like, well, that can't be the legit death because we're just like walking away from it. But that's it. But you know, Chlos is dead and Pagan is dead and Maria Hills are dead. Gravic then calls Scrody on the phone. Who is Scrody's real name is Rava, But I'm gonna call him and continue to yeah, to tell

Yeah.

And then Rava's like, wait, hold on a second, don't we all don't, Yeah, like what's why why would you do that? He's like, it's leverage because you don't understand Fury Will want to save the lives of innocent scrolls. You know, he's got a soft spot for the scrolls.

Look at his wife.

Yeah, and he's gonna want to save their lives, and therefore he will tell me where the Avengers DNA is so that the President of the United States, who is alone in the hospital, won't nuke Russia aka New Scrolls. Okay, why do they.

Still listen to this man? Apart from the fact that he's obviously incredibly handsome and has a very nice accent. Otherwise, I'm like, his plans are terrible. He has never killed Nick Fury, could have killed him many times. He never got the Avengers DNA. He is not a good lead. I'm sorry.

It's a leadership vacuum, and I think it's one of those things where here's listen here, I'm gonna give the Scrolls some hard facts right now, a little bit of hard talking to This is tough talk, okay, And I'm basing this on not just the events of the MCU, but the events of the comics. Hey, Scrolls, You're just your leaders are always bad. Look at what's going on.

Yeah, that's just flopped it. Gravic flucking it like they need someone new, they need someone different, maybe an empress. Perhaps maybe Sheil will rise.

It will be nice. I would like to see that. I'll say one more thing about gravihc uh, you know, putting the new King of New Scrolls in play. I also think he's thinking, see these these fucking warriors, they're they're ungrateful. I put them in this position and let them eat the delicious, the delicious scrull eggplants of their whole world.

And now they dare they dare aladda, and so listen. If it doesn't go the way we expected to go with the leverage play and the President Nuke's new scrolls, fuck him.

I don't like those people anyway exactly.

He is just killing them. Seeing the hope Pons meant to be like, well, you know, we got to keep the scrolls alive. We can't let them get extinct. He kills an awful lot of scrolls casually. So I don't I think you're onto something. I don't think he really likes them.

So we're back at the hospital where Scrodi is now getting off the phone with Gravic, and all of a sudden, Fury just mugs Scrody, grabs and he comes out of nowhere and he pushes Rody against the wall and he's got a gun to his head. The presidents of the other room, there's no Secret services around, there's okay, there's one secret service. Guy's like what do I do?

What do you do?

You fucking shoot the guy that's like assaulting one of the National security advisor or whatever.

I don't know.

I've survived. That isn't he still one? He would have got sniped like ten minutes ago. This is unrealistic, unrealistic.

Nobody, nobody knew what to do. And so uh, you know, furious like, hey, we gotta put a stop to this.

That's it.

I'm gonna fucking You're done. You're done, pal, You're you're a scrawl and I'm sick of this and Scirty's like, ah, you won't do it. You know why because in exactly sixty seconds, the footage of you gunning down Maria Hill is going to come out on Access Hollywood. Here, let's put on the TV in the in the hospital so you can watch it happen. And when that happens, you're fucked, pal, You're done in this town and every other town across the world wanted.

I'm bombing Russia is that he already wanted.

So then Fury is like, Okay, you got me this time, but watch what happens next time. I'm gonna fucking take care of you. And he goes to walk away and then scrode. He's like and by the way, take a look at this, and all of a sudden, like two dozen after the president and he's like, yeah, that's right, they're gonna this is what's waiting for you next time you try some ship.

Some guys who are.

And Nick Fury is like, yeah, we'll see about that. Fury is now an international wanted criminal, which he was previously, but now it's real because everybody has seen the Access Hollywood TMZ tape and now it's that's it, and we all know that apparently Maria Hill is a beloved figure just in the world, so people are really really mad.

Back what joy to see she doesn't give a fuck. She just shot this guy on the leg and what I love it. Some more secret service people, this time from England. Now they don't know what's going on, they don't.

They just let they they let it go. I also love the way that scroll weather it Be is like, Sonya, have you seen this scroll Be? Could there be aliens among us?

Sonya? And she's like, what are you having bit and just shoots him right And I love also can I just say, like, I feel I understand that this as has been promised for the last year or so fatally, I understand that, like it's intimate, like these well changed, okay, but but why am inn it? Yeah, the Avengers went against the Chatari without knowing that, like Thanas was involved in stuff that's alien invasion. But like this is coming out on TV and like we're not seeing the fallout,

You think you'd think at least Old Captain America would be calling Nick on the phone like, Hey, what's going on? Yeah? Do I need to I'm like ninety five years old, But do I need to get sooner?

Do I need to have some more super soilious errum? I know you have some? When did they get the Avengers DNA?

Well? I actually like this part of it, and we'll get to that. I can't wait to talk about this because this was a wrinkle I actually thought was very fury ish. This is something Fury would do. Yeah, and and honestly a little bit waste it in this particular project X ray Vision will be back, and we're back.

A major character. Apparently we thought he was. We're getting a lot of charming acting going on. Thought this was leading somewhere. We had some fun theories. Could he be Nick Fiery Junior. I would have liked to see it. Guess what, No, he's dead.

Well, he could still be Nick Fiury Junior, although this heavily suggests that he is not.

They could have Nick Heary Jr. Captured in a scroll device and then Beato could come back because he was really Nick feared ju No, I'm sure that he's just bad and got grew armed. Are to Beto? Sorry that happened to you? Are they not sick of gravit yet? Like these people did? They not have trying to kill? I tried to kill because like he's just killing that friends that family remembers, like and that just kind of like, Oh, I'm gonna try and take him out once and uh,

Bruce walk in there walk.

And you can have a groom or the powers of Corvus glaive like you will be okay.

Guya has a meeting with Fury Uh in the safe house in Brixton where they were Fury originally welcomed the scrolls to Earth. Uh. She is of course distraught because her father died, you know, thousands, if not millions of light years from home for absolutely no fucking reason. And she's like, my dad was a loser. This sucks. Nick is like Nick then tries to get her ready for the big game. It's like, hey, guy, it's fucking game seven, okay, fucking Gravit is gonna nuke New Scrollers. Cris Act has

Is dead, so many dead scrolls.

There's a lot of them dying. Guy goes to see Vera and they do the funeral, right, and it's actually a shame that this is actually good, pretty good and emotional, and I wish it was more like this. Roady shows writs and evidence of new scrollos and also scrawl participation in the attack of the convoy and the existence of this scroll colony in Russia, and he's like, you know what, listen, crazy idea, Why thats just fucking bomb that ship. He's like,

The President is like in hospital, in bed, looking mad, fucked up, no one around, no one around him.

He knows not to trust Roady, or so he should know because Fury told him that, but also wears fury and wears a secret service, and like, you literally could not even get into that hospital if the president will looks he looks.

Like a dad that got heat stroker, like a dad that got heat stroke at his kid's soccer game would have people around him than the president of the because.

He has a wife I don't know, a mistress, I don't know the president, and he's just chilling and we see a lot of deaths. But it's like they could have at least given us a hint, like if I saw some like dead bodies being dragged into a hospital room, like the scrolls were killing people, but no nobody cares. This is this is proof like they're overly concerned with the role of president, even though the president doesn't really have an interior life or any kind of people around him.

So there's something no one running running things?

Where is everybody?

Where is everybody? Gravic, who then has a great cell phone plan because this guy's making international calls like it's nothing, calls Fury and says, why do you colling new scrolls? Like you gotta take your eye on pills because it is on the side of a of a of a

Like what Mason a person who is allowed to be sassy to Nick Fury. That's what we line, because he just you'll cranky all bitch, go to sleep. I'm sick of you.

Yeah, because he just like got a Jeep six plane, like on credit for Nick Fury, Nick Fury did Nick Fury did the Venmo go through? Like is Nick Fury gonna zell him the money for this? And like you could at least say thanks anyway. Vera leads Guya through the funeral rights. Gaya is, of course very sad that it's only the two of them. She's like, my dad was a hero. Now all of a sudden, he's a hero. Yeah, my dad was a hero of the Scroll people, and

She loved him, she was fun of him, like she didn't want to kill him.

Yeah, and she didn't want to do it. And she was for Gravit trying to force her into doing it, but she didn't want to do it. And now that she's refused that particular jobs, she's ready. When Gravic's people show up to kill her, she's ready and she can't wait. And guess what, they're here. That's a good, great timing because they're here everywhere. They are bad shots. And so Vera and Guaya put on backpacks. Why do they put on.

Better bulletproof vests?

I guess because it has like like ammomags.

It was a weird sequence.

It was a weird It was definitely a weird like backpack product placement. Anyway, they go like Jane Wick on these scroll hit squads and it's actually pretty cool. Cool very quickly, it's over veryica. They absolutely take them out, no problem. Sonya goes and meets Fury when he lands in Finland and we learn Fury is wearing the the the Widows Veil digital mask from the end of Captain America, the Witch Soldier and Ding Ding Ding Di Nink foreshadowing alert.

Right, because you said this mosque was going to show up.

Yes, I knew that this was going to show up. So Sonya says, hey, the Widow's Veil. Uh, Like don't you don't they do? Don't They change the whole body now, so it just changes your face and like the rest of your body remains you and Nick Fury says, those are the those are the newer versions. This is the you know, one point oh version. The two point oh versions do the whole body and absolutely we are going to see that version of the product.

Also, can I just say, Nick, you had this the whole time. Why when you came from Ath didn't you just put this on? Like you didn't need to be Nick Fury coming down from Ath. Everyone could have just thought Nick Fury was in space and like, none of this would have happened.

I bet you. It's like a battery issue, Like it's really hard to charge.

I only lost for like long enough to get through customs.

Yeah, So they head out to go get the thingy. Sonya tells Nick that she told Roady about new scrolls and he was like, man, that guy's a scroll.

What are you doing? Why did can I just say that? Why didn't he? Like text time? Let her know? You gotta keep her in the loop.

You gotta be like, hey, what's up, Sonia? Uh, just want to let you know, Rody a scroll? Okay, talk later, can't talk.

It's crazy.

So you fucked up, Sonya. That's a scroll And now he has vital intel and she's like, oh well. He also tells her that Gravic is threatening the nuke Russia and then tells her, uh, what the new Harvest is? Now, here's what it is. Fury wanted the DNA left behind by the Avengers after that big fight against Stanos's people actually like a thing Fury probably would have thought of in the comics.

I will say, I think this is where the show and our discord has had some really cool chats about this. I think this is where the show needed to go more and to commit more to, which is the realities of the kind of person you have to be to rise to the top of Shield. We need to see more of Nick's complexity, how he was complicit with the system, how he did fucked up shit like taking the fucking DNA of his friends and sending a scroll to do

That would be cool.

I think that is age interesting angle, and I think you're right. I think this does feel like something Fury would do when you think about him contextually. I just wish they leaned into it more in the show.

Yeah, I was like, man, that's a cool detail. It's a shame that the rest of it is not as cool, as it reminded me of the thing from Civil War in the comics, when Thor is offworld at this particular time in Marvel Continuity, at least as it pertained you know, he's in his own book, of course, but at least as it pertained to the larger ongoing events of the Avengers and six one six, and so Thor was just like not around, and all of a sudden he shows

It does and it establishes something that's really important. So we've talked quite a fair bit about how the original super Scroll cut. That's how you pronounce it. It spelt like KLRT. He had the fantastic fource powers, right, that was the thing. But later on the super Scrolls as they grew, could have the powers of many different heroes, right, So this is essentially establishing that law. And they're going for that core Avengers team because a this is a great narrative

And we're back. So Fury wanted this DNA left behind after the big, big fight against Santos's people upstate at Stark's Avengers facility up there, and so Fury put Gravic in charge of the project collecting DNA evidence as just like a normal person able to shape shift and get in there and just like fill up test tubes with various goop. Now Fury has to give him the DNA or else. So this is all Fury's fault and that's why. And Fury's like, that's why I came back from space.

He's like, fucking shit, I'm staying in space.

Yeah, space is chilly. They then go to a small mausoleum in a cemetery out in the woods out here in Finland, and this is one of Fury's secret caches of equipment and stuff, which is another thing from the comics. Nick Fury is constantly getting thrown out of shield, fired by shield, wanted whatever, thrown out of the country, fakes his death, whatever, but he's always got stuff because I forget. They actually put a number on it, didn't they And they're like four thirty seven the book.

It's hilarious.

At one of the stories in the last ten years, they actually put a number on how many Nick Fury secret bases there are. So this is a very very very Nick Fury thing. And he picked Finland because apparently he and Vara had honeymoon here. Those scrolls like the cold, he says, and he also hit the the DNA. There the DNA. He opens up at the top of a fucking tombstone and there is a vial of clear ish liquid. Who knows what that could be?

DNA? Is that also like booms zooms DNA? Also? Okay, So if it's the end game fight rather than the Battle of New York, which is what I misunderstood, maybe I'm like, is it Carol? Is it? Like Fanos? Like who is it? There's so many DNAs that would have been at that fight. That's basically opens up the world to any any hero or many alien villains.

It's literally every single every single word person.

Was just in that that vial.

And then he goes over to the other little part of the Mauslium where he has his regular stuff, and he gets his battle eye patch and he gets.

His but it was not important.

And now Washed Fury is ready and he and he takes out his phone and he calls somebody and he says, it's time, let's finish this. Who is he calling?

Grabbic? I guess like Roady Scroll, Roady the President. Maybe he's like Hill Hill.

Let me tell you. I mean why yeah, But that's like one of those things.

Why would it be that she was too busy to film the five episodes?

I don't do you think they got somebody? Like did they get like Sam Wilson or something for one episode? Do they get an actual hero for one episode to like come in and be like, hey, I need your help for one episode to help defeat the scroll a million scroll invasion of Earth.

Think so because Nick has like a very funny monologue in this episode where he's just monologuing to Sonia but how the only person who could beat the scrolls is him because he's got a brain that was trained by his single mom, and only he knows, yeah, to beat the scrolls, and like the Avengers don't know. And I'm like, I feel like Captain America would be like useful. Yeah, I feel like you could just fee the way that soldier. I like to see if his male arm has something

Yeah.

I feel like Nick is overestimating his own nick importance.

Nick, let's take a look at it. Okay, In the multiple alien invasions that have taken place in the MCU right battle of Battle of New York, the Avengers took care of the Chitari. You were up there on the fucking hell carrier which crash and then you lost control of one of your nukes, so how does that look? And then endgame, where's the Where were you just chilling Infinity War? Would you would you got glipped and then

I don't understand why the man who literally put together the Avengers initiative because of an alien invasion is now like, oh, there's an alien invasion, but I don't need the Avengers. This is why you put them together and come on like there is a million scrolls and like, I guess what I would say is like I feel like maybe they could have been like a bit more narratively clear, like maybe he's like a shamed that the Avengers DNA is.

That would have been then, so like that would be I understand that. I don't want him to I don't want him to know about this.

Yeah, I don't want it. I feel like they didn't go clear enough on that. So do I think an event I think maybe I think he was probably on the phone to like Gravic being like we're gonna be done. This is done, We're gonna finish it. But like, do I think may be someone could show up at the end and be like, why didn't you call us? This is so dumb and like punch a scirl senf.

Like probably it's really weird.

I don't think Gravic is probably gonna survive the finale. I think I don't think he's a I think he's a little dam villain. I also just am very interested. I guess Carol is the obvious option, especially with the Marvels coming next.

Now, obviously we didn't mention her.

Director Ali Salim has been quite clear saying he didn't think about continuity, he didn't think about the Marvels. Okay, so maybe that was a red herring. I feel like Carol kind of makes sense, but we know that at the moment she's quantumly entangled with Kamala and Monica, So I don't know, it feels like somebody should show up. But the biggest question I kind of have is like it in the most kind of chillway possible, Like what what?

Larger gosh from the larger MCU, I would say, Sam Wilson, Yeah, I would say, oh, well, you know what if I'm sorry I'm blanking on Florence Pew's Elena.

I was gonna say I think she's also because she's asked.

Yeah, I think Yolena could be there. But then my reality brain kicks in and says, there's no way they landed Florence Pew for this one for this one episode. But that would make sense, Taskmaster.

Maybe I know. That's why I'm like, is it so are we missing? Are we gonna get? You know, who actually would make the most sense? I guess is like, and she does. We know she loves doing TV. She's a TV legend. Maybe you get the Contessa Valentina Alegra d'fonte, like, maybe that's because because also was Mason working for her. He was Black Widows fixer. It's unclear if he was kind of involved in the early Thunderbolt stuff because like Elena was that, So maybe her, but I think it's

So good, really cool.

That would be really actually And that's like Coulson's there, That's who he was on the phone to, and he's just like.

That.

Would be great. I would be a huge fan of that. And I think it I wonder if maybe all of this leads to the creation of the Scroll with a certain set of Avengers powers or one of the Avengers powers or something, and that becomes our actual, like our actual like singular first Scroll. Yeah, Kirk Clerk, like you

I was hoping it was going to be like this was gonna set up the kind of underground Nick Fury that we saw like in the mid arts when he was running around with kid Aries and Daisy Johnson and stuff, going from like hideout to hideout, maybe now with with Kurt or some other scrolls and that's his like, you know, like counterintelligence agency that only works for the heroes. I

Yeah, it does like it does. It would be I would be sad to see it happen because I feel like, yeah, Sam is such a core part of like the success of that CEU, and but yeah, it does definitely feel like that. And as we know, you can always bring somebody back in those spaces like it it's not for definitely not forever, especially in the MCU.

Well, the final episode of Secret Division is next week and we will be here for that up next nerd Out.

In today's nerd Out, where you tell us what you love and why, a theory you're excited to share, or a quick question that we can answer. Rob shares some thoughts on Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade. Hi, Rosie and Jason loved the Indiana Jones episode recently, thank you wanted to share some fun theories from The Last Crusade. Okay, first theory, the guy who originally gives young Indy the hat was apparently intended to be Abner Ravenwood, Marion's father,

I wish they had quest that and.

I agree very Rob, they should have left that one in. Second, and the main reason I decided to write in involves the ending with a selection of the Grail. Last Crusade was probably my favorite movie for a time as a kid, and I've seen it countless times over my life, but it wasn't until I showed it to my significant other for the first time recently that she brought this to my attention. In the Grail room, Elsa volunteers to choose the cup for Donovan, which of course kills him my

I never considered this, and I'm considering it right now, And honestly, it makes a lot of sense.

Rob, your significant other has just blown up last crusade for us.

Yeah.

I never considered that, But that actually makes so much sense. Why wouldn't she do that?

Yeah, she's got she she got what she wanted, and now she can potentially leave without the entitlements of having having to work for this crazy guy, and she could go back to Nazi Germany and live exult in the in the victory of the thousand year right.

Well, and guess what, sorry to her, she's going to die in a fog instead.

And you know, God, yeah, that makes a lot of sense actually there. Wow, I want to rewatch it.

I know I'm going to have to rewatch it. That was really good. Thanks.

Rob.

If you have theories, passions, or quick questions you want to share, hit us up at extra at crookad dot com. Instructions as always are in the show notes.

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