Warning. This podcast contains spoilers for Secret Invasion episodes three and four. Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and on Rosday Night, and welcome to X Revision, the Crooked Media podcast where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.
In this episode, I'm previously on some exciting DC costing news and there has been a lot of it as the studio has been a lot. They are trying to tie down these actors before this sag strike potentially happens at midnight to night.
Please don't do this, don't do it.
So there's lots of DC casting news in the airlock Secret Invasions episode three and four, and we have questions. We have questioned, lots of questions in ned out No, I don't know it's you, You're impassonating me or a scroll a very relevant Secret Invasion theory.
And coming up next.
Previously on Okay, first up, some DC casting news. It was announced today Today's Wednesday, July twelfth that Barrie's Anthony Kerrigan aka Nojo Hank aka Gentlemen I see around town on a regular business I I ate dinner from him one table over and he seems like a wonderful gentleman will be playing Metamorpho aka Rex Mason and what has to be one of the most perfect castings out of the.
Out of tas oh Nos, best casting ever like this. This is the kind of casting way you just put in a group chat and you're like perfect, and everyone's just like perfect. I'm so glad I saw this, Like this is incredible. Give the casting director a million dollars. Give James Gunn some props because I'm sure this was one of the things that he was like excited about doing. This is such a fun character. Madamorpho created by Bobpeny and one of my icons, Romona forre Don, still making
comics to this day. She's an Eye debuted in The Brave and the Bold fifty seven in January nineteen sixty five. Really good, weird character, been an Outsiders doing Patrol Justice League Europe, seven Soldiers of Victory, Justice League Task Force and more. Just like a super good, weird, deep cut DC character. So let me ask you a question before we get into these other ones.
Please please, please, please please.
Is this really a Superman movie? Because there are a shot of characters that have been cast. We're talking about one of the biggest ensemble movies since like Endgame, with the amount of characters. So, how do you balance a Superman origin story, a Superman Lowis Lane working in you know, the Daily Planet kind of story. How do you balance that with Metamorpho and all these other cool castings that are about to get into.
I think that.
It is going to be a Superman origin story, but a Superman origin story in the sense of it will be the the uh reveal of Superman to the world. Clark Kent has been working as a reporter doing stuff that you know, he knows about his powers. Maybe he's flown around and saved a few people here and there, a bus from falling into it, from a tree, cat from a tree, you.
Know that kind of thing.
But now with other superheroes and super villains in play, the super villains perhaps start overpowering the superheroes, the you know, the very whatever version of early versions of a super team they have here, and so Superman has to reveal himself and be like, Okay, I guess I'm going.
To step I like that. I think I think great, that's what it's gonna be. What do you think, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll tell you my theory off that we reveal some of the other characters, because I think those are the selling point to me.
Next up, Isabellamer said, Vanity Fair exclusively announced we'll play hawk Girl. Isabellamer said, you're familiar with from the absolutely appalling Sacario Day of the Sacrato. It's terrible, horrendously awful movie. It's politics are truly truly outrageous.
I enjoyed the first Secario.
The sequel is terrible, and also Dora's Lost City of Gold actually delightful.
Ten out of ten would recommend if you have not seen it, it's a joy.
And I will say the inclusion of a hawk Girl m kind of has me feeling. This is kind of why I say, I wonder if it's going to be like a Justice Society kind of thing, and then the Justice Society just gets like Murk, and so Superman has to be like, Okay, I'm here.
That's a really great point actually, because we know that that was what If we look at James Gunn's patterns with Suicide Squad, he announced all these different people playing all these different deep cut heroes and then killed them off in the first five minutes of the movie. Now, do I think it's going to be that quick. Probably not, but I do think that was a really interesting addition. I like your thing about the JSA. I think that's right. This is such a weird, deep cut character. It's just
like hawk Man. There's like multiple versions, Like the original version is the wife of Carter Hall, who is you know, I guess in the old days, the associate of the Justice Society. They're like, she can't be in it, she's just a woman. But she's created by Icon Gardener Fox love Him Dennis Neville from Flash Comics number one, January
nineteen forty. That's how old this character is. There's been the different versions, the fanagarian one who is the wife of Carter Holl spelled differently, another Gardener Fox with Joe Cuba, and then Kendra Saunders, who's like the modern one that I think most people know. James Robinson, David Eskoya, Friend of the Pod, but oh David Icon Superhero Movie Icon
and Steven Sadowski and that's like a nineties version. I think, knowing James, this is probably gonna be an amalgamation slash something a little bit new because they're apart from in the DCAU, the animated films and TV. I would say that is the real, definitive version of hawk Girl for a lot of people, is the animated DC version. So I think there's space on screen for a really great hawk Girl. There was a hawk gull in the CW,
but I feel like this could be a really cool space. Also, hawk Man was played by Aldis Hodge in the much maligned Rightfully So Black Adam. But oh this Hodge was brilliant. That was cool casting. The costume looked great. I would like to maybe see him come back. It's just bonkers to me, like that is such an out there casting for a Superman movie. But it's not the last out there casting.
It is not the last out there casting. We continue. EEDI Gethegi, who we know as from X Men First Class and what was possibly the worst death in a Marvel related film of a character that definitely should not have done.
He always evolves. We know you, he said, abering about this because people like us talk about it all the time, but it's true. I'm so happy to see him get his props here and get a new character, also a very cool character, mister terrific. I love this character. I think this is so cool and out there and I was absolutely not expecting this.
Tell us about mister Terrific.
So mister Terrific's really cool. He has a cool jacket that says fair play and it is a legacy mantle. So there's been multiple different versions. There was actually a really cool version in the CW played by Echo Kellam, who I really like Curtis Holt, but this is going to be the Michael Holt character created by John Ostrander. Tom Man Drake really cool, creative and he is like a super intelligent inventor. But he created the T spheres
and that's his weapon. And he has this really iconic costume design that is like a leather a leather kind of racing jacket and he has the tea painted on his face. Now that arn't they used for this was by Alex Ross, which is the most probably the most famous art and I would say, yeah, this is the one where with the other characters. Don't quote me on this. This is a Timfoil hat theory.
Oh right, okay, I'm excited.
To me, this feels like James Gunn's doing a Kingdom Come movie. Like the roster of characters something that's so different. He's the what is the legacy of Superman? The movie is called Superman Legacy, Like, is the legacy that there's this threat that he cannot deal with, so other heroes have to come in and be involved in it. I just feel like to me, these kind of out there characters, especially like with Mysterrific and the next one's feeling Kingdom
come ish. But I also I think that is a huge ambitious leap for the first movie in the DCU because it's essentially Elseworld. But I'm not gonna lie this is This's been giving me Kingdom Come vibes. With all these castings.
Wow, well here is the Here is the final announced casting. Nathan Fillion, of of lots of things that you probably liked, including Firefly and more, will portray a Green Lantern specifically Guy Gardner. Is confirmed by James Gunn on Twitter, and this only bolsters my theory that a lot of these.
People are gonna die.
I first, Navidillion.
Will always he was he was you know, the detachable kid aka like James Gunn's version of Arms full Off Boy. He died then you know, he played the the security guarding guardians of the Galaxy who was always ragging on the Pete Davidson character, like he didn't he didn't kind
of have a main role. Nathan Fillion definitely doesn't seem like he's gonna survival, especially as Guy Gardner, who, like, I love Guy Gardner because he is the annoying green Lanton, But like when you think of Greenland and you think of Hal Jordan, John Stewart or Kyle Rayner, you know you don't think of ginger bang Guy, a Gardener who's always like fucking around and doing some rude shit and annoying everyone. So I would I like, I think you're right, I would not bet on him surviving the movie.
Do you think he makes it twenty minutes?
I wonder James Gunn has been doing a good job trying to cast Nathan philly In in a main superhero role for a long time. Nova was one of the ones that everyone was talking about. Allegedly there was going to be a poster of him and Guardians of the Galaxy Volume one where he was going to be wonder Man, like the kind of Hollywood wonder Man version. So maybe this is the time where James has found that perfect role for him and he can kind of pop up around the DC universe, but like, is it more likely
that the first he's the first green matter and he dies? Yes? I agree.
All of these characters, of course, will appear in Superman Legacy, a movie that will increasingly.
And we can't wait to see it.
Two yes, two yes.
Crazy stuff up. Next, Secret Invasions Episode three and four, we're stepping out of the airlock and into New York of nineteen ninety eight to talk about episode three, Betrayed of the Secret Invasion television program on the Disney Plus streaming network. Directed by Ali Slim, written by Roxanne Prides and Brian Tucker. We start with with Beato, who is maybe fury sales furious?
How can I don't know. We're going to be talking about that in this episode. Do they have babies a human? Do they have humans that tune into scrolls? Unclear?
It's a very it's a very comics thing that would happen. Yes, And we open on Bido. He's being questioned about why he specifically wants to be a warrior and the Scroll rebellion. He's like, well, we got to have a home, and the guy interviewing is like, great, good, answer. That is the extent of my question.
Give me questions here.
I would like to hand you the reins of a very very sensitive mission to destroy a plane, a UN plane that will be carrying multiple politicians, and you're gonna impersonate a soundback. Gravic is studying his super scroll machine. The council arrives. He's brought them into kind of like flex in front of them, in front of the machine, and he's like, okay, here's what's going on with my latest attack. Three scrolls dressed as soldiers and strike a
UN facility and then world War three. That's it. That's the extent of the plan. And when World War three happens, then we unleash the super scrolls. And by the way, that's going to be all of us. Don't just think, because I've only got one of these machines and there's a million of us, that I'm not going to get to every single one of you and give you scroll powers. It's going to take a while, and we're gonna have to do some kind of lottery system with numbers or
what because clearly the bandwidth is not there. I don't know how long this process takes.
But we will all get super scroll powers.
Okay, and be weapons of messages.
Let's talk about this. Yeah, this is his plan to deal with the Avengers, et cetera.
You could do if maybe you do ten a day.
Maybe, I mean, I want to talk. Look, I understand that Marvel was in the Under a thousand Days. I understand Mavel was in a sticky situation here as they do not know who they're fantastic for are going to be yet, and they are not sure when they will be introduced, and they wanted to do the super Scroll. I would have said just wait, because look, let's be real. If you're going to go against you know, all these
heroes in the MCU, there's so many of them. Just think to the end of end game, Like, think about how many people there, and this is the powers you have. Extremists grouped an ice demon.
From low we haven't seen the icy.
We haven't seen the icy yet, and then like one of the we one of Thanos's annoying children.
Like I feel like, which I think is just strength.
That's probably just like instead of the thing like, I just feel like those powers are not really they don't have the range. If you're going up against the Avengers, like I just.
You know what you they can they can be like, oh well we tweaked it, like obviously the first this is this is super skrully.
Like when this comes out, When this comes out, it's gonna be like Soldier Serum, like we got buck Is mele Arms just growing up.
Everything they're gonna do.
They're gonna be rolling out improvements obviously like once actually gonna be like, hey, update the firmware. We just found a new power guy. Clearly that's what they're gonna do. We flash back to New York City, nineteen ninety eight Young Fury. Younger Fury walks into a diner, perhaps after seeing one of Sam Jackson's own movies. Do you think younger Nick Fury did he like see pulp fiction?
Definitely. I feel like a lot of his aesthetic is based on that. He's like, He's like, I've just been to see Sphere, the nineteen ninety eight Side Classic. Maybe I went to see the negotiate.
Or so I could starring Sharon Stirp, had.
To negotiate with this scroll.
I believe it an adaptation of Michael Crichton novel Michael Crichton By the Way, shocking news. Six foot nine.
Oh my god, I think about it all the time. I legit, think about that all the time. You six foot nine and you road Jurassic Park.
This is unbelievable.
So young Nick Fury walks into a diner for a meeting with an agent and this woman starts flirting with him. Beautiful woman, and Fury seene really realizes that this beautiful woman is his Scroll agent Vary. She passes him some documents relating to Drake Coff, the project manager of the Russian Super Assassin Training centerstering are her ever heard of it? Thus bolstering are we were right eligible theory that everything
related to Russia is Scroll infected. Fury quickly pivots to and I think, and I'm not sure this holds up to hr scrutiny. Immediately pivots to you looking good. Damn this whoever's face and whole bohole vibe that you've taken on.
I find it easy on the eyes.
I think this is the saber.
Yeah, And Fury is like, who can I ask?
Like?
Who the who? The lady? You may be killed or have tied up in a basement, or you know, whatever the case may be. Like who she is. Vara is like, don't worry about it, but how about this get to we could get to know each other, just you like
the way I look? Maybe you know, we could spend some time together and you could get a get a closer look and if you're just like hr, I don't know this conversation, but yeah, we worked together and she's like yeah, but like we're secret agents, so technically everything's classified, so.
We don't exist.
We don't exist.
It is like present day.
Fury and Vara are enjoying a married couple breakfast which she cooked and it looks good, including coffee, And after cooking this beautiful breakfast, she's like, here's your question. Why haven't you been home in seven years?
Let's talk about that because I assumed when she showed up Nick Furrey's secret wife. I was like, oh, this is so interesting. Everyone's been telling Nick Fury, oh you're washed. Why have you been hiding in space wherever? And I was like, no, Nick Fury's actually's been spending time with his secret squirrel wife. That's actually really romantic and scroll wife. But what she's been shape shifting, it's been really weird and freaky. I love it. I was like, this is
actually an interesting complex layer to this new character. No, this man just disabeen for seven years. She also doesn't know where he's been, and they still married. She could have just filed him as a missing person. He would have been listed dead after seven years.
And then fury has the gone. We unmitigated golf. This woman just cooked him breakfast, including coffee, accepted.
Him back into house after seven says no issue.
Back into the warmth of their home.
She left wedding on the table for him after seven years.
And then he immediately is like, have you been radicalized by Gravic? Let me ask you this, What the fuck have you been doing for seven years?
If you've been talking to.
Have you been talking gravit? You better let me know.
It was is like, come on, Nick, where the fuck you've been going?
I'm like, didn't she isn't she that same scroll that introduced him to graphic Maybe, like, I don't know, maybe she is chill with him. There's not very many scrolls in the world. Allegedly, actually because he come on just.
As you talk to him, doesn't Yeah? Anyway, so Vera, you know, is rightfully annoyed at this and she's like, well, listen again, for the millionth time, we're gonna mention this in this episode, in this series, you got snapped, then you came back, then you went to space, and now you're here and you have all this unprocessed trauma, and so you know, it's very, very difficult to have any kind of quality time with you. And as for what I was doing for seven years, I became me the me I was before you.
End quote quo.
Then she gets a weird, mysterious phone call where she goes, uh, yeah, I don't know about that. I'll talk to you. Yeah, yeah, right, okay, talk to you.
Later, and.
Or he's like who's that and she's like, none of your none of your fucking business.
Maybe it's not nothing to do with you made Okay. This relationship is very confusing to me. So they meet in nineteen ninety eight, how long were they actually together for? Like he just breezed off to space. Like, also, she is a scroll. She could have just gone to space with him. We know there are scrolls on Seba, but she just chose to be chilling in that she was an agent.
She was also an agent too. It's not like she was like a scroll.
Why did she come like really, yeah, why did she become like a funny housewife? I mean, I respect that the house is, but like it's confusing.
Here's the vibe I got so post nineteen ninety eight. I think they're together, but they're still doing this, at least in public this oh how are you? And what's going on? So it seems like they're not together, but they're just doing this kind of like role play thing where it's like their second date even though it's fifteen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting, that's my theory.
We got to New Rolls.
Gravic wakes up Guya. He tells her that Broken was you know, the boiling blood guy, So you boiled his blood in his body? Was likely the guy who tipped off the cops to their plans. Was like guys like, well, listen, Brogan was weak and I will never fold under torture. And she hasn't had her blood.
Try say the bo's been boiled by Olivia.
Yeah, and then uh, and then she throws some further dirt on Broken's grave by saying it was Brogan. He's weaker than you thought. And then Graphic's like, okay, be ready tomorrow for a secret thing, and then next scene is tomorrow the secret thing.
It's why why have.
The line be like be ready tomorrow, just cut to the sea recurring problem as I just want to say, Guya.
Is like a stone cold bitch. Yeah, she literally snitched. Thank you to the Discord members who pointed this out. Sheitched to Tayloss, who called the police on the safe house, and then Bergen was murdered for it. Bergen, who did not give up the safe house, by the way, boiled ship about him, like, oh he was so weak.
I'm like this man, you gotta do what you got so that you could just snitch to your side. She's on our side. She's trying to stop World War three, we think, so. Uh. They go to the they're going to the thing. They're in a car. Gravi tells Guya that he's going to meet with her dad Taylor's and
the subject of the conversation guess what it's you. And then while he's in the car, he extremely suspiciously and in a in a conversation that is clearly bait, is like, yes, submarine Neptune longitude latitude, Yes, that's exactly where we're gonna do it. Goodbye, then hangs up, and so she puts it on a phone, but then, smartly some good trade
craft here, she doesn't text it. She hasn't passed manually to him, so it doesn't like trigger their communication security, which she actually does trigger later when she actually is called by her dad. Anyway, Gravic and Taylor sit down there in a museum. They have a little you know, graphics monologuing about the difference between statesmen and warriors, and He's like, I'm gonna be the I'm gonna be a warrior statesman. I'm gonna get blood on my hands. I'm
gonna build this fucking nation. Let's go to the cafe and have an espresso to talk about it. So they sit down and Taylor's is like, hey, I got a pitch for you. Stop doing terrorist shit. Oh why didn't anybody ever try this before? Has anybody ever gone to Graviic and just asked.
Mersef, I'm sure you know what I think Nick has probably done at some point is probably done at some point. I think Guya's probably gonna some Gravic. You gotta stop, Taylos, was this really your best plan? You were like, I'm gonna buy that a price museum prepackaged sandwich.
And sit down and I'm gonna express grab stop.
And what do you think he is?
Grabbic is like, I'm gonna continue killing. I'm gonna continue doing terrorist stuff. And by the way, doing terrorists. It is why I'm on the council and you're not on the council. You fucking lose her and ps, I got your daughter a killer anytime I want. And Taylos of course loses it at this and he is about you attack Grabby, but then he realized, oh ship, I'm surrounded by scrolls.
By the way, very missed the smith from the matrix, right.
But also well, it saves assets and it saves cost bud and then and also, uh, you know, it's interesting that Taylos and other scrolls don't have you. I think there'd be is that like not a scroll or just like an extreme paranoia to be like, are all these people's scrolls?
And it's weird. Their own power that they understand is like so unbelievably impactful, but they just never expect other
people to be using it. It's definitely an odd narrative choice. Also, I feel like Taylos, he's not really the he's not really doing his best secret agent in here, like when he's like, I could kill your daughter, and instead of Tailo's being like, oh, that's just something dumb that someone likes to saying, he probably like gets up in his face in the middle of the museum cafe where some grannies are just trying to chill and he's like, I'm
gonna fucking kill you. It's just like my guy, like take it down a notch, chill out.
Taylo's is like, Hey, I don't know if you've thought this through, but like World War three, I think it would be very very destructive.
Well more is bad.
And also, and I think this is a good point. It would be destructive to us because of course the human superheroes will get involved, and we'd probably be driven to the brink of a destruct of extinction. And uh, the humans are much more formidable than you think. And yes, they are very disunited right now and they're at each other's throats and it certainly looks bad politicization and YadA YadA YadA, But if an outside enemy comes, guess what,
they're gonna fucking unite. So think about it and then Taylos also says there's a silent majority of Skrulls who agree with me, and we're all gonna work against you. Don't ask me to name them right now, but they're there. Don't ask for it. I yeah, I know you have a full like operational colony in Russia of all the people who agree with you. But I have like an email list or something of that. But there's a lot of people. It's it's like, certainly a majority of a
million that are here. And don't you dare fucking talk about my daughter. And he puts and he gets grabic around the neck and stabs him through the hand and then just fucking pieces out. The bodyguards are like, just let this one happen because it's gonna be cool. And and then Gravit pulls the pulls the knife out of his hand and guess what, it's extremists, the extremist part of the super scroll procedure. And he just like fucking heals up. They perfected it.
Yeah, they perfected it off screen. Sorry to the Liliens. It kind of Iron Man three.
It kind of makes sense in the sense that, you know, shouts to old George Killian, but he was a little bit off his rocker and I and they had and they're you know, they have theoretically access to better technology.
They have like spaceships and ship they smart people have.
Two human scientists who are helping them.
I will say, hell, I do like your reads, and their genetic their genetic makeup is obviously very very different, so they can probably like.
Your read where it's just like this is a fun like du x making for the MC and I'll scrolls this ma. If there's a problem. The girls can fix. Girls scrolls this ma. It's happened in the Girl's note.
Later, at a bar over a traditional English breakfast delicious, Fury and Taylors meet up. Taylos is like, you know, and this is the real merit he.
Want to see?
This is the real one. Yes, every time they're together, I'm like, great, just let these guys rot. He's you know. Taylors is like, you only ever want to talk about business, like you never want to talk about me. I just stabbed Gravic through the hen and tried to pitch him on not doing the terrorism stuff. And I don't want to talk about that because it was it was. I ended up with a lot of egg on my face and now I just want to eat my English breakfast.
And Furious is like, okay, got it, but listen, I have info about a rebel scroll posing as a very highly placed US political figure. And then Taylos is like, okay, well, why don't you why can't you ever say that you just like need help, that you're you are kind of washed now and you need me, and so can I just hear it like that, Nick Fury needs help from me, Taylor's and think Furious like, I need you, I can do.
It, yeah, and he whispers I thought was actually very but he also like whispers and his an like this is definitely the kink of that marriage. Like Nick's like comes up behind him and he's.
Like, I need help.
I need your help, Tylos.
Taylo's then shares the info that Gaya passed to her
on the burner phone. Fury calls sonya uh, who is just being wonderful in her offense, ask and I do miss her too, And she's asking and he's asking about Neptune, which is a British submarine, and so he's like, uh, you know, I don't want to talk to you because you bug my owl you son of a bitch, and now I have to put a little ipatch or the owl like you and Nick says, hey, gravics try and start World War three, So could you like stop fucking around with the owl and and talk to me about
like who the commander of this sub bas is? Like do you just have that in of this like one of the military many military bases like around that you just like know the man. She's like, yeah, I got this, Captain Robert Fairbanks importsman.
I was gonna say, I feel like she gave it. She can. I just say, Nick Fury is like on the run. He is suspected of being part of a terrorist attack in Russia that was done for the American government, and he.
Is seen on video shooting Maria.
And she's just like, yeah, you can have it. Like she's like that word she is this guy he is.
He is the main suspect in the jack rubying of Maria also and it's clearly him.
And I also just say as well, like she knows that scrolls exist, so like how does she know this this salmon not a scrowl.
She's that's a fucking because the scroll wouldn't know. Well, they don't know about the mind reading shit, but like the scroll wouldn't know about the bug. So but then she brought us. It's like, you know, they're very tricky anyway. Taylo's uh and what is a very very funny exchange that I think this could have been more of this.
Yes, I agree.
Taylor's is like, I don't get what why do you guys like dogs? Like so you just like walk around and pick up their ship and it's like, man, work this into a tight five tailos. I think you have a second actor stand up, you know, scrawls be like it could be, it could be good material for you. Fury is like, you know what. I know that we've had a rocky relationship of late, but in this metaphor, you are my dogs and that's why did why did he say that.
He's like like your ship for nineteen years years? And like that's Fury, why did you say that? I thought you're trying to be friends with him? Again?
What is cos Taylo's then makes a very very good case that hey, guess what, you wouldn't be where you are, which is clear on the run, but I'm talking about like, yeah, as director of Nazi shit, and you were when you were at Saber and when you were the fucking director of Shield and all in putting the Avengers skilled. You wouldn't have been in that position if not for the very very important and unheralded work that me and my nineteen other scrull buddies did in disguise at various points
along the way of your journey. So acknowledge that.
Nick Fury also, like, can we talk about the political ramifications of that? So Nick Fury just had like weird undercover scroll spy slash sassa who were just like doing all kinds of crazy shit like planning world events like shifting the state of history and politics. That seems like they just blew over that. I would like to I would like to see that some more details on what to cut.
And also every and everybody missed Hydra like like the scrolls also credit any credit because honestly, the litany of people Peggy Carter, fucking Captain America, uh, the Agent forty two, like, the amount of bias star Tony Stark's dad, like fucking Hank Pim, the amount of very very very very very smart people, Taylo's all the scrolls who.
Scrolls when they like was almost shape into people obvious point and they just didn't know, Like I refuse.
To believe anyway they missed it.
Fury and Taylors arrive at Captain Bobb's.
Taylo's wants to go in and disguise, but that immediately gets blown up and so then Fury has just kill like half a dozen scrolls. They get in Nick Furi's, you know, going up the stairs, Taylos is already up there. He gets a phone call and it's Taylos and Tails is like, yeah, I'm up here, coming up, but he understands that no Bob has Taylo's prisoner. He gets up there and yes, that is in case Bob has Taylos
gun to his head. But Nick is fucking ruthless. He comes in with Bob's potentially human son, the real Bob Zachary. He has a gun to scrawl.
I will Seem's upset.
So is that Scrollbob's son is scroll Bob just feeling the human emotions of human Bob. He's so lost in the Bob Sauce questions.
I think, I think what happens, and we've seen this kind of happen in the comics right where the scroll is doing it for so.
Long, ye, yeah, well you can almost forget your.
Yeah.
And I think that you know, potentially Bob's been doing it in a while, and when they take the memories out of Bob and put it into fake Bob, I think if you live it for long enough, then some of the emotions clearly cross over, because you're absolutely right, fake Bob is lost in the real Bob sauce and was like, Zachary, I don't want anything bad to happen to Zachary because he's not my son, and I'm about to help start a war that's gonna kill billions, But
this fucking human kid who's not my son, please don't kill kill him.
And so.
Fury's like, well, listen, I'm gonna kill this kid's not your son unless you call off the strike on the plane that will be launched from a submarine that is under your command. And then all of a sudden, Fury is like, oh, lightning bulb, Tailo's just fucking impersonate Bob. And then Taylor's is like, I can't because Bob knows the super secret abort code that we could never ever figure out. Just like, we need him to do it.
Yeah.
Meanwhile in the sub the missile control people are like, should we really.
Do this to bomb the UN plane? You know this seems weird, as you know, all politicians regularly travel in one single air bound vehicle for safety reasons, you know, much much harder to kill them all that way.
So Fury goes medieval starts torturing fake Captain Bob uh and it looks like the bomb is really Messel is really gonna get launched. Then Bob makes the cardinal mistake, absolutely the biggest mistake you can do around Taylors, which you talk shit about Guya and so then shoot bomb where.
So okay, now Bob is dead.
And then sorry called Gaya and he's like, Guya, listen, sorry to blow your cover like this right now. Because as he's calling her, the scroll communications security people are like, oh fuck are communications with crack. Taylor's is like, listen, I need you to find Captain Bob's human body in the fucking body storage and I need you to like fast forward through his memories and get me the aboard password so we can stop World War three. She's like Okay,
she goes down there. She she you know, takes out the guards, gets into the fucking human uh cold storage finds Bob is scrolling through his ball like his Blu Ray. And then guess what, Bob, who is in this like very very very sensitive military intelligence role commanding like a whole submarine wing that has the power to launch nukes. And his like aboard password is Zachary his son's name.
Unrealistic?
Got this, kid, Bob, why don't you just pick one? Two, three, four by?
My favorite yea on. My favorite thing about this is like they like use it as like a really emotional moment, Like Taylor's is like it's his son's name, and I'm like, bro, that's not emotional. That's dumb, Like he's bringing his son at risk. He couldn't just go on the internet and right password creator, Like he couldn't just google one of those good passwords. I'm also pretty sure that if you have a nuclear sub situation under your command, they probably
give you a password or a code. I don't think it's just your son's name anyway.
And then Taylor's is like, guy, and now run, We've done it. We've stopped w War three. Taylor's calls in the abort uh and no World War three. Later, Fury asks Taylo's, Hey, the quick question, why didn't you join Gravic? You know, after all, Gravic does have a point, like I haven't done jack fucking shit to get violent, right, and so like I do, I'll take that l like I get it. There's a million scrolls here just like kicking rocks without anything to do, and yeah, that might have been my fault.
And Taylo's is like, I didn't.
Because I'm friends with you.
Yeah, we're married.
We're a married couple, and I love you. Meanwhile, Gravic intercepts Guya before she can get away, and it turns out the whole thing was a was a Tyrian Lanisters lose to flush out the trader in their midst, and Gravihic shoots Gaya. Sarah Vera then gets a text message
and hurriedly leaves the house. She hits to the train station, then to a safe deposit box in the train station which contains a gun and a big envelope, and she gets a call and she's like, okay, blah blah blah, I need to speak to Gravic and the person's like, yeah, well, you're talking to me. End of the episode.
Rip to Gia. Wow, I can't believe they fringe two women in the show. Well, I can believe it, But is Guya really dead? I guess we'll have to talk about episodes week, same Bat time, same BAT channel.
X ray Vision will be back, and we're back onto episode four Beloved. Directed by Ali Slim, written by Brian Tucker Guy. It comes back to life having secretly given herself the super scroll procedure off score. When this how well, I guess just earlier I would I wanted to see her like like sit in the chair and then take like a bad handle and like push a button out.
Emily saw this thing one. It was always surrounded by super scionists and it was fucking huge, and it seemed like you needed multiple people to do it. She almost got caught when she was just looking at like an old nineties mac. I'm like, how did she do this without getting caught? And isn't that so convenient? Also, I just find it really funny, like the way extremist works for the Squirrels is like so sick, Like she just got shot like two times in the chest and it's
just like fine, I'm living. Not a problem.
Not a problem. We go to Paris twenty twelve. Vera and Fury are having dinner and it is sometime after the Battle of New York in the public review of the existence of the Avengers. Vera's like, I bet you this guy that I know put the Avengers together. Seems like something he would do. And Fury is like, what, I that's interesting. Tell me about this man. I don't have anything to do with it, but I'd like to
know more about this guy. And then Vera says, well, this guy that I know, he believes that, you know, the world's a dangerous place, and that the week need to be protected by heroes, and those heroes need to be put together and they need to be good people and all that kind of stuff. And by the way, I'm reading this Raymond Carver book, and Raymond Carver great great writer of short stories. Pick up any Raymond Carver collection. They're very easy to read. Some of the stories are
like three or four pages. He was also a poet, was also an alcoholic, but a really really great writer. Anyway.
She then is like, here's a poem that I like.
And basically what you need to know is it conveys her love for him.
We go to the president, Roady meets.
Vera in a church and it's clear that this is the person that at least she's been having some phone calls with. And Roady is like, Yeah, I fired Freury and it was great, and I do it again. I'd do it every single day of the week if I'd hire him back and then fire him just because I love play. And here's what I want you to do, and what you've been working on. You're working on assassinating Nick Fury, and I want you to continue working on that.
I want you to do. I had many, many other opportunities to do it and just been at the house, But do it now.
I feel like it is very over the top planning to like leave a gun in like a safe deposit box. I don't think it was some kind of like you know, secret facility or anything like you could have just given her a gun another time, like she didn't need to go there. You could have left the gun at the house. She should have had a gun in the house this whole time. She's married to Nick Fury, so she probably owns it to be Why does it have to be a bad gun? But the whole thing. I have questions
about it also. So they meet in nineteen ninety eight, they get together, at some point, they get married. But in twenty twelve, how long has he been away that she didn't know about the Avengers initiative? This is what kind of because.
He's been, He's just been. He's just been. You know, I would imagine if you if you look at like the Avengers initiative, let's say, like the run from like Iron Man two to the Avengers, he was probably away for like a solid year and a half to two years.
I feel like she could have just gone and send him in a hotel Marcket for like one day.
Just like in a Hellic carrier.
He's just living on the head Carrier and annoying the Avengers. Yeah, I feel like there's many ways that she could have been, like assassinated him. When she's cooking him all those nice breakfasts, is he and she could have dropped, I mean, bury him under your very nice mid century house, or just like you know, kill him and then call the police and be like, oh my god, the escaped maniac Nick Fury who killed Maria hallis here, and I killed myself
in self defense. No one knows we're married, so there's no way for you guys to connect us together.
Yeah, but it's no. It's got to be the gun that she has in the safe deposit from the very very the very very swank safe deposit box in the train station. I know.
I would like, is this meant to be like a special like Switzerland bank or is it just in the train station? There's a guy here with like he's like a butler, Like I don't know what.
I was like, did she go to a bank? But then I listened to the to the like the foley and they mixed in like a train sound station sound also, so it's clear that she was just like under the train station.
The in the envelope. I felt like that was unnecessary. I was like, the gun is just the gun. There's the gun. Is the gun? Is the gun? But yeah, so scroll Roady is like, you go to kill Nick Fury, babe, it's time kill him.
You gotta do it.
I could have done it.
I had a meeting with him, but I want you to want Vera then tries to She's like, listen, can I be frank with you. I've had I've had a dinner and a and a bractast now with Nick since he's been bad.
And this guy is not worth fucking war. He's haven't watched.
Everyone knows that he's tired.
He can't do anything. He cannot do anything. And Rody's like, no, babe, you gotta kill him. She's like, okay, guy, Arena, it's with Taylo's and Dad's mad that Guya got legit murdered Gravic and she says, don't worry about it. I'm good now. I got the fucking super scroll juice in me, and I'm fighting for you and I love you kind of the same reason that you're using to fight for Nick Fury,
because you love him and I love you. But also like, now that we've gone to the stage where like I've been shot and murdered in cold blood, could you come up with like a planet TikTok get us to the finish of this thing, because it really feels like you too old oldies, you too fucking boom up and just like kind of by the by the seat of your pants here, and.
You know, what are we gonna do?
How are we gonna find it? Like an actual planet, a place to live and Taylos is like, I don't know. Here's here's what I'm thinking. Okay, I don't know about the planet, but just follow follow this train of thought. Here we save the world from World War three. We go to the humans and we go, hey, we saved the world from World War three. How about an amnesty
to continue living amongst you in secret? And guys like what like I want to look like a scroll naturally, Like I want to walk around my house in scroll skin and eat scroll food. I don't want to like take like be legally sanctioned to live here, but have to live is whoever this body?
Why hasn't Tamos already saved the world like thirty times at this point, Like couldn't he already have that? And also like he's missing the whole point of leverage. You can't like say, oh, we saved the world already. Can you give us something and return? The President's gonna be like, fuck you, you already saved it, Like keep staying in secret. Also, why are you here? He's lived on us for thirty years. He should know this by now.
You gotta go to them like with the MISSI launch and say hey, I could stop this. But like give me.
Your sign a little paper right here.
Yeah, do it, and then I'll save the world. He just needs a good agent. Anyway, He's like, here's what and and so that is my plan is amnesty. And by by the way, just be patient. I know you want to live in a home bland of your own. And I know it's been thirty plus years because Nick is just fucking dragging.
Out, but let's admit it.
Five years of that he was, he was morasing he so so you know, let's just be patient, and let's just be patient about it. Vera returns home and Nick is there. Nick says, hey, I'm just dropping in to make you some tea and then I'm gonna get out of here. But before I get out of here, we got to break up because our relationship is the biggest mistake I ever made. And you're an alien and I'm a human. We should have known this was never going
to fucking work out. All our dates are super weird where it was like where you know, we're having dates that are fifteen years apart, but we're having like versions of the same conversation, like this is not going anywhere. Also, you've been hired by Roady to kill me. I know that because I was listening to that conversation somehow, and that's not much. I trust you.
We are we are done.
But before we're done, just tell me, like how you came to look like this extremely fine ass and so Fair is like, well, this is the body of a doctor. She had terminal heart disease and we were friends, and I go to visit her, and but but you know, all the time while I was just visiting her, I was also stressed out because like I had this job which was to like get close to you and spy
on you. And then so then eventually, when she was about to check out, I was like, hey, do I have your consent to to impersonate you in the afterlife, like with your whole body and everything and maybe not memories, but certainly the way you look and everything. And the dying doctor was like, yes, but you have to agree to three conditions. She's like, okay, what are they? One?
Burial at sea? Okay, easy, no problem. Check. Two you have to continue as you impersonate me, and what are we doing with the death certificate?
And don't work.
You need to continue to pretend to be me to my parents and be a good daughter that she's like, okay, she's like easy, no problem, and then three never hurt Nick?
Why how does she know?
Nick? I guess she's she must have been close to me.
She did say like the way that she convinced I was asked if she wanted to fall in love, but it wasn't really help.
It was like, oh, I see how what are you was gonna fall in out?
I don't know behavior And guess what she did say.
That's right by trying to assassinate him, so whoops. And then they both recite the Carver poem to each other and at the end of it, they draw their pistol and shoot, and it's actually a very very tense and exciting scene and I was like, whoa, this is juicy. But then you come back and they both missed on purpose. They shot to the side, and then she asked a very natural question, was like, hey, so if if if
I was fully scrolled, would we have been together? And then Nick is like maybe, not going to answer, and then he finally is like, I guess we'll never know, and yeah, and then guess what we go to We go to Rody's condo, where he is indeed a fucking scroll.
Everyone, and guess what now you know?
And guess what. Fury is broken into the condo and he's got a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle, a very very very very rare and very very expensive uh brand of bourbon that is released but then released in extremely small numbers. And if you find it, it's got a lot of connoisseurs and it is delicious. Uh. And the and the and the bottles are extreme pricey. Anyway, of course, Fury has the Fury is like, listen, I know you're
a scroll. Uh. And I will not reveal to the world that you were a scroll if you give me my job back. And Scrody is like, no, h because let me just show you this video. And then he plays the video of of Nick Fury Gravic as Nick Fury, Jack Ruby and Maria Hill and he says, look at that. Everybody's gonna look at that. They're gonna go that could only be Nick Fury. It's him. Yes, he looks older and he looks more washed, but that's one hundred percent
of him. Now get out of here before I defenestrate you, which means to throw up window. Fun word. But guess what the Pappy contained like nano trackers, and so from that's like some ship that like fucking Tony Stark had an a warehouse or something. Just and so now Taylors and Nick know where Rody's going, which guess what they should have put two in new together. But it's going. It's Roady is going to be part of the attack on President Ristin's convoy as he leaves Air Force One.
So the President gets into his limo and there's a long convoy. They're heading to the summit with the Russians to head off, uh, you know, a potential World War III because of the attack that Gravic formerly launched in Moscow. And guess what here comes Gravic's attack. Helicopters, they're launching missiles. The fucking Ristin's limo gets turned over. Ristin's fucking Custy's strapped into a seat. Gravic and this and the scrolls are they repel down and they're killing everybody and they're
speaking Russians. They're like, oh shit, it's the fucking Russian fury. And Taylor's spring into action. They like drive, they just drive.
They drive through the west that security for Air Force one, This Rody is literally like one. I just want to say, I realized this as we're talking. Yet, did they really need to put like nano trackers in the.
Whiskey because you're just like.
The President, bro He's always with the President. That's why the scroll is Brody like, you did not need a tracker for that. And then yeah, and then Brody didn't thing to just like add some more security or like the American government didn't think to Tellos and Nick Fury to old guys. They just drive onto the runway like.
Hi, Yeah, but Nick is Nick.
Everybody says he's watched, but he's clearly still got some of that old you know, guile because he starts turning the tide and when Gravic lins of Fury is there, he's like, Okay, I'm.
Gonna be groot, now pull out.
I'm gonna have to pull out the super Soldier, the super Skrull powers. Taylo's is hit because Gravic is like fucking somebody with somebody shoot sick of Taylor. Taylos is trying to use his scroll strength to like punch out Ristin's fucking very good.
I have to say I can open the He look like he had any old mind strength I have the way? It took too long? Should it?
Just so he's trying to punch it, So he gets shot as he's trying to punch it out right, and then because he's wounded, he now he starts losing control of his form. He's like fucking turning half scroll. And Fury has to like stop various American Secret Service agents from killing Tailo's because they're like, oh shit, there's an
alien here. One of the aliens is here. Taylo's then, you know, bleeding out, manages to break the window on Ritzan's car, and then Fury is like, okay, we're surrounded by fifty Secret Service agents, but I a seventy year old old man with a bad knee and one eye. I am going to carry the president to safety.
Taylor's like a.
Hundred charges that with like AK forty seven's.
Taylo's, you stay here and bleed and I'll I'll be right back after I carry the president. And so Fury leaves to go get Ritz into his special range rover that is there somehow. And while he's doing that, guess what, of course, Gravic, pretending to be a soldier is.
Like, hey, I'll helpe you.
You need to help.
Buddy picks up Tailos and in front of Fury, who realizes like, oh fuck, I got a stupid thing, which is leave my best friend, married partner, my partner in marriage and in the midst of scrolls, and now a scrolls got him and it's got to be gravic, and yes it was, and fucking gravit guts Taylos and Fury shoots him in the head. But guess what the extremist thing they really they again.
They have perfected it. This should just comes his head.
Just grows back. What And then Taylo's I guess.
He's he's just laid the floor. Nick Ferry just left him on the floor so he could take dumb At Mularney. I agree, I would also save dumb At mulroney, take him into a special rain driver for the president. And Taylor's is that he's on the floor. Is he dead? Jason, you have a good theory about what mayica.
I'll tell you. I feel very very sure that the following is gonna happen. We've already got Guya as super super scroll number one of the good guys, right, super scroll number two is one hundred percent gonna be Taylos because Guya knows how to run the machinery.
Cleary, cant imagine how much I need to run on someone else, not just yourself.
Yeah, and she's gonna go. No, my dad, we can't let him die like this. I know how we can save him. We can go and then they're gonna give him the super scroll procedure. And then it's gonna be Taylos with the super scroll powers, alongside his beloved daughter who has been at times a strange from Guya, and together with their newfound powers, they are gonna defeat Gravic. That's what's gonna be.
That's gonna be episode five. I agree.
Let's see Rody's scroll? How long? Good question?
I would.
The Battle of of Avengers comp scrolling it.
I would love that they would, you know, I feel about it. This should I don't think they should have called a secret invasion. I think they should have if they were going to call it that, I think they should have played closer. I think this version of Rody the way they got Don playing him, which is really fun, But like I think this is new. I think all the scrolls we see is like a relatively new situation. I don't. I think Rody and Tony they had their
little relationship, they were living their life. This explains probably why Roady doesn't have any leg braces or any kind of help with his back after it got broken. So this is this is relatively new. I think this is a post blip situation. I think this probably is like a three days before the show started kind of situation.
So Rody is Roady is on one of those electric sleds in the base two. It took up to the Blu Ray player that has.
Exactly go for them find out when Tony got called Tony Stank. You can be like playing the best moment.
Other questions, what do you think, h Taylor's dead?
No, I think you're right. I think Taylor's is coming back baby. I mean, there's two more episodes left, which is almost half of the show. And this show was sold on the idea that the reason it wasn't going to be like the comics was because of this Ben
Mendelssohn Sam Jackson chemistry, which I do agree with. So hopefully we see more of that, or maybe this will like radicalize Geia and he really is dead and then Geya and Nick Fury will be together, or Nick will have to stop Geia from killing Gravic for some reason, because you know that they always decide somebody shouldn't die. It's it's gonna be very interesting. I have no idea where the next two episodes are gonna go in like a long term impact, but I will say my one
my one takeaway. I think I think they are obsessed with the president, even though he's like never in the show. And I do understand. I'm dumb it, Maroney, I love you, so I understand that. But like I I think and I understand that in like a an espionage style thriller or a spy movie or an action movie, a lot of times they'll be like, we got to save the president. So I do understand it could just be coming from that, right, he is the most powerful man in the world.
We've got to save it.
But I think the obsession with the president, saving the president, putting the president that we've never heard of that isn't someone from the comics. As far as I know, President Ritson. I think that the President's either going to die or become replaced by a scroll at the end of the show, and that's kind of the end goal of the series.
I think you had a good take before we started rolling, which is that this is going to dovetail directly into Thunderbolts, which I get. It feels like now you've now had a scroll attack, possibly with the collusion of Nick Fury and other.
People are not going to trust superheroes.
There's no more trust, and we're like, we need to have the superheroes we can trust that we control, that we have brainwashed, maybe exactly, And and I think that I think that that is so. I think I think directly.
The knowledge will be like Ritson gets killed potentially, and then you open the door for President Thunderbolt Ross, which we know is gonna happen with Harrison Ford and then oh but hilarious, can't wait to see I'm sure he's going to be in it for like five minutes before you get CGI turned into racing.
Well have you seen that clip where somebody is like, so, are you gonna be the Red Hull and what's the Red huw who?
I love him so much, He's like the most fun and then the other all the other options I think are I think it could be quite likely that like Taylos if he survives, maybe he takes pretends to be the president.
And the idea is like, well, oh Nick and the scrolls and and Saber can control the threat or the more thunderboltsy version. I feel like there would lead him. There would be like if Gravic ends up replacing the president.
So you love that.
I love the idea. I love the idea of Taylo's or another scroll as a president. And just like signing random executive orders that now everyone wants to plant these like scrolls, you.
Don't have these delicious eggplants. They're great for the environment, and.
Every man, woman and child in this country was planned twelve scrolls.
Time for the egg plant planting.
Okay?
Up next ned Out. In today's nerd Out, where you tell us what you laugh and why, a theory you're excited to share, or a quick question we can answer, Mike from Loveland offers a scroll celestial theory. Hello x ray crew, Hello Mike, A very long shot theory with major major implications that I wanted to float your way. In the comics, scrolls are famously tampered with by celestialals, just like humans in the cree What if in the MCU. They're even more compatible than we've been led to believe.
Gravic is messing with scroll DNA. What if some of those millions scrolls and humans have been messing around with DNA the old fashion way aka having sex. You see where I'm going. Well, if that's what muans are over and over they tell us these scrolls are mostly good and just want families, they got busy making it happen. Long story short, Kamala Khan's father in the MCU is a scroll boom. I like he said, I learn more probably invalidates this theory law, but we love it outageous theory.
I do think that when they eventually get around to mutation, it's gonna be We've talked about this before, but it's gonna happen several different ways. There's gonna be I think, the weird alien energy way. There's gonna be the interdimensional way. There's gonna be the inbreeding with aliens way, and there's gonna be the straight up you're just born with powers kind of way. And I listen, I think, yeah, I
think you're I think you're right. I think you're right, Mike, because baby beatles gotta be Nick Fury's son.
I think that dad, Captain Bob, had a son and he loved his son. Now was that his real son? And if his real son, was his real son a human or was his son a scroll or was that someone else's safe There is a lot of questions around scroll biology.
Right, Maybe he's been Captain Bob for so long that he was just like.
I'm gonna have a baby, a kid.
Baby. I can't I can't keep putting.
This on my wife. She really wants me to have this baby. I also think now that we're getting into this super scroll situation that unlike the Jack Kubby Stanley version that we all know, which is to do with the Fantastic Four, is more of the vein of they've biologically manipulated the scrolls to have these powers. If these scrolls then had kids, you could have kids in the future who had similar powers, though we know mutants don't
tend to have genetic powers that match their parents. But I think that there's some interesting stuff here, and I think basically this could definitely be a contender for we were right in the future, simply because I think at the moment that MCU and the people behind it don't necessarily have a set track for where we're going. So I think any of these things kamala exactly. And then this they give options for how these things could come to pass when we eventually see the good old X men.
Can I say one thing I think that they that they needed in early in Secret of Vision is some kind of scene where it's like, well we had the scroll detector, but it doesn't work anymore exactly, just something, because there's no way that Nick Fury would have been working with these shape shifters thirty four decades without being like, hey, somebody figure out a way to like them, because we can't. This is untenable. We can't just be like walking around
wondering if people are aliens. Yeah, and he needs kind.
Of rage and if he that, like, it reveals and if he can.
See them with his eyeball, he's doing a good job pretending not to be able to you know, like if the sense it situations, that would actually be so sick three D man, that would be so he's so cool. I agree with you, because it just is not believable that they knew the scrolls could shape shift and they were just like, oh, that's cool with them, just staying on as don't worry about it. Yeah, nothing could go wrong. Yeah, definitely, nothing could go wrong. I agree with you. Can I
just say one thing? I think what they need in Secret Invasion. I want to hear Samuel Jackson say there's too many secrets on this motherfucking invasion, Like.
There's I just I just lean into it.
Guys, at this point, the show's too serious and there's not enough secrets. Actually, I will say, thanks Mike. If you have theories, passions or quick questions you want to share, hit us up at x ray at CRICA dot com. Instructions in the show notes.
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