Inst@Guru: Bentinho Massaro Ep 11 - Silvana

When Bentino Masara met her, she was in the middle of healing from sexual trauma. She was working at Gaia, surrounded by a spiritual community, doing plant medicine work with Colombian shamans, recovering memories that trauma had buried so deep she didn't know they even existed. She was, by any measure, exactly the kind of person that predators target. And she got away. That's what makes this episode different from the ones you've heard so far.

Sylvana is not a survivor of what Bentinho did to Jacqueline or to Jade or to Keelan. She saw it coming and she walked out. But here's what I want you to pay attention to. She almost didn't. Because it didn't start as a cult, it started as a lovely female friend, a yoga class, tacos, a hot tub, a group of people who felt warm and fun and alive.

And Silvana, who was smart, grounded, surrounded by people who loved her, with years of spiritual literacy behind her, still found herself pulled towards this group. Still found herself reading a text message from Bentinho that she describes as the most manipulative message she's ever received in her life, and having to make a conscious decision to get out. When you hear her tell her story, she points to something important. Her community is what kept her anchored.

The friends around her, the co-workers who pulled her aside and said, be careful. That made a difference. You'll hear experts say the same thing: that isolation and loneliness and being in transition are what make people susceptible. And to some extent that can be true. But I think there's another layer that doesn't get talked about as much. It's not just about what's missing in someone's life, it's about what a predator can see that you want. Silvana had mentioned wanting to change careers.

She'd mentioned being in a healing process. And within days, Bentinho was dangling the possibility of work in his world. Conscious events, a platform, a community. He wasn't filling a void. He was holding up a mirror to something she was genuinely reaching for and making himself look like a path to her aspirations. Community and connection protect you, but so does being able to recognize when someone is using your own desires as the hook. This is episode 11. It's a lot of story.

Because also the audience doesn't know, a little bit, just a little bit about you, you know, who you were before you came into the orbit of Ventino. Can you give us a sense of yourself?

I was in um client relations whenever whenever I was in Colorado. So this was already from the beginning, it was a very confusing time of my life, just because you have all of the spiritual stuff plus healing from trauma as heavy as sexual trauma. And that's that like this story takes place during that time of my life.

So I'd love you to come. I was like, Yes, I'll be there. Um, and in this birthday dinner, that's when I met Bentinho.

I will say, like everybody was on their best behavior and just very polite, very kind. And I really liked all of them that night.

Then um a day later, Corey removed her parents and Chris, and the only people who remained in the text uh group was Bentinho, Corey, Aaron, which was Bentinho's friend at the time, and me. And um on Saturday, Corey sent a message saying that, hey guys, um, let's go to yoga. So I think maybe in the dinner we did say about going to yoga together. So it was very close to my house.

Uh we went to Core Power Yoga, and Bentinho didn't go, but it was just Corey, Aaron, and me that went to this yoga class on a Saturday morning. And it was amazing. I was like, wow, these people are like me. I'm super excited. I'm making new friends. So I was just like um great. I called some of my friends. I was like, oh my God, I met these people. This is so great. I was super happy about making the new connection.

And then um that same day on Saturday, Corey said, like, hey guys, well, how about we do a little party, um, like a taco party, taco night at my over at my house? Would you guys like to come? And I said, Yes, I'll be there. Aaron said that he will be there. And then that night was like the first night that it was just the four of us alone at Corey's house. Um, and we were just gonna make tacos. And there was at some point Bentinho was like, Oh, make sure you bring your bathing suits.

There's a hot tub, it's gonna be so much fun. So I packed my stuff and then I headed over to their place. Well, to Corey's place.

So I knew he had a following, but I didn't really, I didn't even watch a single video of him before going to hang out with them because I was more interested in getting to know them. Um and almost like following up from the conversation that we had had during the birthday dinner.

And my life, like I didn't have a normal, you know, decade in my 20s because it was all healing. I did try therapy early on, and it just I couldn't break through. And that's why I went down the plant medicine path and I was progressing very quickly. I was just unlocking a lot of things, uh, also recovering a lot of memories. There's a lot of there were a lot of gaps in my life of things that I had no idea. Sometimes I'll see pictures and I'm like, how did I don't have any recollection of this?

I was just like learning and practicing. So I was already practicing white tantra, meditation, planned medicine, and working at Gaia. Like there's not a single person in there that's not spiritually inclined. That's why we apply there because there is already some resonance with spiritual concepts. So I, for me, even whatever Ventinio will talk about, it wasn't like foreign, it's not, it wasn't something new.

I'm like, yeah, of course, you know, and the way that I saw it, I think the in retrospect, I can see how maybe he was talking at me, like trying to teach me. But I'm like, no, we're just like vibing mentally, you know, like you tell me this, I tell you that. And that's the dynamic that I felt we were having.

But then there was always, I, you know, over time I realized like he wasn't really asking me anything about me, he was just like talking at me, and at all of us, actually, all the time, you know. So um that was my mindset at the time.

So the four of us went to the hot tub, and when we were there, I was already picking up like sexually charged vibes from Ventinio. I was like, I I am pretty sure he has the hots for me because he was kind of like more focused in my direction, and Corey was more focused in Aaron's direction. So it kind of felt like the tension was rising, but I did not like Ventinio like that.

So although like um I didn't, I felt like I was fully in control because I was I was drinking beer and you know, being in Colorado, all the craft beers, like this, this was normal for me. So I'm like, I feel it fully in control, and I'm also very good. And I I uh even at that time, I was very good at setting at my own boundaries. So we were all in the hot tub talking. And then Bentinho brings up, like, okay, guys, I think we should play a game.

We need to play, uh, we're gonna play truth or dare. I was like, okay, let's play, and we start playing. Um, you know, we go around and I'm always like, truth, truth, truth. And at some point, Bentino said, like, Silvana, no more truths. You have to, you've gone truths a few times already. Now you have to do a there. And I said, Okay, I'll do a there, but I'm not making out with anybody.

Because before that, um, I think Corey chose there, and she and Bentino said, like, okay, I dare you to make out with Aaron. So she immediately just went and kissed him, and they were making out. This is on the hot tub. So after it was my turn, I said, I'm not making out with anybody. And then he said, like, okay, um, well, in that case, I want you to spit on Corey's mouth.

And I'm like, and so what I did, because I like at this point, I'm like, Corey immediately, she just like went in towards me to engage. And what I did was that I covered my mouth and I just did the sound. I went like as if I spit, but I didn't spit on her because like you know, and I kind of like looked at her like I got you, girl, but she didn't, you know, she didn't acknowledge like the little wink that I um communicated with her nonverbally in that moment. It was almost like okay.

But whenever you get so raunchy and like the first time that you're hanging out with people and like that, it's almost like I'm like, maybe he's you know, he's too drunk, or you still don't know because it's too early in the relationship to know if this is the person or if this is an episode, or if it's just like uh uh a thing of the moment. So I think that I just felt I feel bad.

Like I wouldn't have allowed her if he was the other way around and he would have told Corey you need to spit on Sylvana's mouth, I wouldn't have allowed that. But Corey immediately went into like yes mode to you know to do it. So that's why I like I cover um cover my mouth to make it seem like I did it, but I didn't.

Bentinho's doing the faces, he couldn't actually do it right, um, which was funny for somebody that felt so, you know, so cocky around about everything about himself. And then he dare um Aaron to do like uh like we'd like, okay, now we're gonna jump in the pool, because this was in the hot tub. Then we're gonna jump in the pool, and in the pool, the dare for Aaron was to dunk in into the water and hold me in one arm and hold Corey in another arm.

Because, by the way, for some reason, like Bentino was like obsessed with Aaron's physique, just kept making comments about how strong he was and all of that. So the dare for him was to like grab each one of us in an arm and um and then dunk in the pool and then scream like cocko doodle-doo or some ridiculous thing like that, um, uh X amount of times. And and then Ventino was outside in the pool standing up, looking at us and just like laughing his ass off. And that was the dare.

And after that, the game ended.

Let's let's get to know each other, let's talk, let's like dive deep. But he was just like so really pushing for just like the sexual aspect and all the conversations were around that. All the conversations were around like uh just raunchy sexual comments and um very distasteful, uh in my opinion.

And then Ventino just went on this long speech about like non-labels and free love and connecting and souls uniting and vibrational unity and all of his jumbo jumbo that actually not saying anything, but just spiritualizing. Basically, I was like, okay, so you guys have sex. Like that was my follow-up question. Like, well, sexy. I'm like, bro, just you know, I just wanna, I just wanna understand what's going on here. And then I did um again, not a straight answer, very vague about everything.

But at some point later in the night, I remember that they were sitting in the couch. It was right after we played because uh Corey had a bird. So we were like talking to the bird, and the bird was, you know, doing bird things, and I was amazed at that. And then I was cleaning up myself and changing, and when I came back, they were kissing on the couch. So I was like, okay, these two are a pair, but they have a weird open relationship thing, and you know, I'm I'm not into that, right?

Um, then also he kept bringing up Jacqueline, like, oh, you're gonna you're gonna meet Jacqueline. I was like, who's Jacqueline? And then I'm like, oh my God, another girlfriend. And I'm like, this is a polyamorous group. So at this point, I'm like threatened with care, you know, because um I'm not um no judgment for the ones that do it. It's just not my flavor of relating, and I didn't want to participate in any of that. Uh, but they were very respectful.

Whenever I push back, like even in the hot tub and everything, and I was like, I'm not doing that, there wasn't pressure. Even with um just little jokes and things like that. If I'll stop him, he'll stop. So I didn't feel like I was in any point like in danger that night, or um, it didn't feel like I needed to, you know, go back home. It was just like uh I was just getting information and understanding what type of what type of person he was. So then it gets pretty late.

It's already almost three in the morning, two something. Um, and then Aaron leaves and Corey asks me if I wanted to spend the night, and I was like, oh. Oh, where? And she said, Oh, don't worry. I have a room downstairs in the basement. It has a bathroom. I have towels. The sheets are clean. It's like, you want to come see it? I was like, Yeah, I'll come see it. So I went downstairs to the basement, and the basement had like a pool table, a bar, almost like a like a second house, basically.

Um, and then there was the room, and it was true. There was the bathroom, everything. It was a door. So I was like, okay, yes, I will, I will stay because I had been drinking that night. I wasn't drunk, but it's for me, it just felt safer.

And then I went to I went downstairs and then I um I went to sleep. Whenever I was falling asleep, I heard as if somebody was outside. Like, because this is the basement. I didn't hear noise up, I heard noise outside, and then I got the you know, uh creepy little feeling. I was like, mm-hmm. So I just got up and I locked the door, but I made it loud. You know, the I like you can lock it softly.

I just I just made sure that I went like pushed the door and then locked it, and then went back to sleep, and and then I didn't hear anything else. I went to sleep, and then the next morning when I woke up, I came up a stairs. Um and then Ventinio was already out again in the in the back of the house where the hot tub pool was, and um you could see like the view, it was a beautiful view, and he was sitting in a chair wrapped in a blanket, smoking a cigar.

And then he's like, Oh, you're awake, Silvana, come sit next to me. And he pulls up a chair and then uh hands me a blanket, and then I sit next to him, and then we start talking, and it's more of the same, it's more of like him teaching me without me really asking anything, you know, just almost like, isn't this a beautiful view? I'm like, yeah, it's so beautiful. Like, you know, I'm looking, it's Colorado. You have the birds, and you're like, wow, this is so nice, that's why I moved here.

And he's like, Yeah, interesting. This is the creation of the third dimension, and blah blah blah. And then he just goes off on his, you know, 4D, 5D, 12D, and and all of these concepts, which again, because of my environment, like I can engage in those conversations. We can play ping pong, you know, in these concepts, but there wasn't anything memorable or um like surprising at that. I didn't notice that like it was a different Ventinio.

Like the night before, it was horny teenage ventinho just going wild, and then now he was like, even the way he was speaking is lower and the presence and can you just be with the trees? I'm like, yeah, dude, all the time. Like, you know, he's like, no, but like really be with it because this is all oneness, blah blah blah.

And I'm like, then you feel kind of like the um the character, although it you know, unfortunately, Mark, a lot of spiritual teachers are like this, they have these very distinct faces, they have their public face, which is sharp and so rigid and so you know perfect, and then you have this other side of themselves, they don't show everybody, comes out whenever it comes out, and it's the opposite of that. There is a lack of congruency in that.

But I'm like, okay, this guy, like I I'm picking up at this point. He is one of those spiritual teachers, you know, he wants to be perceived in this way as a sage, you know, as a as a wise man.

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Is that day over then, or are there more things that occur that day?

And when the plan was I was gonna go to Corey's house, and then from there we were gonna go together to the dinner. And this is a really nice place in in Boulder. So it said dress up bougie. That was the dress code.

I don't like this cheap stuff that you find in, you know, in like uh fast fashion shops. This is the kind of stuff that I like. I was like, oh my god, I am with you. It's beautiful, you can tell, it's refined, and then she's like, Look, and then she's showing me her necklaces, like, yeah, see, everything is real gold. And you know, that it's kind of like I'm like, I don't know what she's trying to do, but there was something like um underlying tone of like showing off.

Also, she could have just like giving me water and have me wait for her, but she wanted she wanted me to watch her like finalized seeing herself getting ready. Um, and after Ventino was ready, then we went. Ventinho was driving, Corey was in the front and I was in the back, and um, and then we get to the restaurant.

When we entered the restaurant, Corey's grabbing Ventinho, and then Ventinho asked me, he's like, would you like like he just offered me his arm so I can uh hold on to him as we're entering. So I grab him, I grab his arm and we enter the restaurant, and they sit us in the middle of the restaurant. There's a table that is, it's not in any corner, it's right in the middle, it's a round table. And before the waiter comes and all of that, he said, like, I just wanna connect for a moment.

And we're like, okay. And then he grabs my hand, he grabs Corey's hand, and he starts eye gazing with us for a really long time. I can feel the waiters just watching, you know, and like kind of like covering their mouth and just like what? And it's bolder, so I'm sure they're used to all kinds of things, but like one minute, okay. But it's it was a while, and then finally one of the waiters is like, excuse me, you know, like may I take your orders now?

Um, and the Mantino's like, no, no, not yet. We'll let you know. And he continues eye gazing us, and you know, I was invited to dinner, I'm hungry, so I'm like, ah, beautiful moment, you know, you're trying to end it in a way, and and again, because I I was familiar with these practices, I found it weird because at least eye-gazing at that time, from what I knew from it, is kind of like a uh tantric practice to connect, to develop intimacy. And you become present and you see the other person.

It's neither the time nor the place, not the person to do this with, you know, it's just so inappropriate. Like, and I don't mean inappropriate in bad, I mean just like not fully there. And they and I kind of brought something up uh about that. And Corey was the one that explained this to me that Bentini just runs in a different time. Like he is like he's like different than a human, he's like above human. And for us, certain things are right or wrong, but he is free of that.

Almost as if the laws of life don't necessarily apply to him because he's so incredibly special that, you know, like we don't understand him. Like all of these people watching the table, like being like, what is what are they on? Um, they're they're the ones that have a problem because they don't understand the grandiosity of Ventinio's mind and presence and spirit and all of that. And this is coming from Corey.

And you know, like there's some there's something, I don't know the word, but it's like almost like the eyes, you know, when you speak to someone and you can you can see so much from a person's eyes, you can see if they have fire in them, you can see if they're sad, and her eyes were just like like blank, just like whoa, you know, like that's Corey. That's Corey.

But I couldn't pinpoint the thing because if I pinpointed the thing, you add non-duality spirituality to that one thing that doesn't feel reading the body, and then all of a sudden it's not real. See? And you are getting immersed in all of these non-duality conversations that you just bypass your physical existence, and this is my compass. So it's a way of almost like you're like in this confusion, in this fog.

So yeah, so we had dinner, and then after dinner, Corey said, like, oh, let's just go home and like keep the party. I was like, well, today's Sunday and I have to work tomorrow, so I cannot stay too late. They're like, oh, no worries. Either way, like whatever, you know, you're about to leave your job because uh that time I was I wanted to jump into another industry, so don't worry about it, it'll be fine.

But I'm just curious, like what what it was for you.

He will like make little comments, like, oh, Silvana, like, you know, you can easily work for me. You know, we have these events, there's so many people in the community. But he started like dangling that. Although this is the thing, I would have never like for me, it wasn't about that. But the way that I rationalize it is like just like working, because when I met my mentor, I wasn't supposed to work that day. But my boss was like, please, Silvana, just come. I was like, oh, okay.

And then all of this happened, you know. So I'm I also know that one connection can lead to another and another. And I was in a time that I wanted a change. So he used that to kind of plant little seeds of that. And I'm like, who knows? Like, obviously, here he has a platform, he runs like conscious events, which I like. Um, so there's things that he's using to pull.

And also, it's not like Ventinio was trying to get me along with him because all of my flax race with that, and I'm like, absolutely not. For me, find having a woman there provided safety because I'm like, oh, like, you know, uh like at that time for me that meant safety. Now I know, you know, this is this is part of how manipulators work.

They they have their allies that do the dirty work for them, and which is this aspect of like seduction as well, because Corey kept going, like, oh my god, you're so beautiful, just bring your cute self over. I mean, luckily, I, you know, based on my upbringing, uh, flattery, it's not some, it's not a good strategy to get to me. So, but I didn't notice, just like the and I was giving it back. I was like, Corey, you have great hair, you know, and like specific things that I actually saw.

Okay. Yeah, so we go back to Corey's house, and same thing happened, except that this night I'm feel I'm feeling a little bit more comfortable. Then Aaron comes, we put salsa, I start teaching them how to dance salsa. Uh Ventino is taking videos, ha ha ha, like um putting stories. And I reposted one of those stories on my Instagram because Ventinio tagged me. And um, that night ended also at like two in the morning. Uh he Corey made sure, like, oh, did you guys get home safely?

And I'm like, yes. Then Aaron said, like, yes, and called it at that night. And the next morning I'm at work. And in the morning, as soon as I got to the office, I have two coworkers. And these are these are like um, these are friends. They are family guys. I know their wives, I know their kids, I know their values. I like, you know, I've been to their homes, I trust them, two engineers. And they both come and they say, Hey, Sylvanna, can we talk to you? And I'm like, Yeah, what's going on?

He said, Listen, so last night uh we saw that you were hanging out with a guy named Bentinho. And I'm like, Oh yeah, I met him last uh last week, and you know, I'm telling them everything. And one of them, the shyest one, he's like, please be careful. And I'm like, Oh, why? He's like, that guy is bad news, just please be careful, and if you need anything, just come to us. And my work bestie, she just went like that, and then she's like, She's like, Silvana, I also have a bad feeling.

I know that you're excited about these people, but but like I'm so glad that they said that because I it's just something about it. And so, see, I think this is the difference as to what is the difference between me and some of the women that fell for his trap.

Was that besides me being already in in a particular point in my healing process, I had community, I had people around all of the everything that was happening, I had other people that love me and care for me and wanted nothing from me other than my well-being. They were they were there. So I was telling them everything. And you know, they're also like, well, you enjoy, have fun, but but you know, there was always a but with him.

Um, and so this happens on Monday morning, and I'm like, I'm not gonna catastrophize anything, I'm just gonna receive the advice and then keep it in my mind. So this is on Monday, October 14th. Then at 12:30, right after uh around the lunchtime, I get another um message from Ventinio in the group chat for all of us. Like, hey guys, had a great weekend, blah, blah, blah. By the way, my employee is gonna send you guys an NDA. Silvana, what is your email? Aaron, what is your email?

So Aaron sends his email, and I'm like, an NDA, but I really wanted to read it. I was already, at this point, I'm already one foot out because I just received the most literal warning a person could receive, which is two people that you trust saying, like, please be careful. So I'm like, I sent him my email, and um then he again he brings up in the group message a little joke about him hiring me. Like, oh, you I can, you might end up working for me, ha ha ha. Things like that.

I'm not engaging at this point. After I send my email, I'm not engaging with the group chat anymore. And then at 2 44 p.m., right? So he starts messaging about the NDA at 12:30. At 2.44 p.m., he sends me the infamous text message.

I think we allowed a glimpse on it on the deck yesterday and over dinner too, with the three of us. The love and timelessness. And there are so many delicious levels and beautiful aspects to each level. It was lovely, auspicious. Thank you for being so open and trusting and surrender so quickly, quickly as measured in conventional human time.

And this soul group or our souls appear to me to be very excited, joyful at the open window that our physical bodies being in the same space provides for them to channel, heal, empower, etc. It day is almost bugging me to reach out to you. But I don't mean to jump on you either. I always do my best to honor early conventions and timing, even when the energy feels very direct and immediately available to me without barriers.

For me, it's like I have these angels that showed up said, be careful. My friend is like, Oh my god, me too, me too. Let's listen to this. And then this comes all in the same in like a span of a few hours.

That's totally cool too, and I will do my best to do that. Haha. This is a recurring phenomenon in my life. I have noticed ever since my mind has been empty of a fixed self. More who are working with, sorry, more who are working with and representing the divine feminine and the healing of feminine and masculine within themselves are drawn into my experience and want to be met by this emptiness, formlessness, and timelessness, Shiva.

Surrender to the degree their minds feel comfortable with, dissolving, opening up, and exchange or leave their own nourishing flavor or frequency upon this exchange and unity as well. Usually people have a breakthrough or quantum leap into freedom beyond their current paradigm or personality structure. But it sometimes goes hand in hand with a challenge or fear or process.

I feel there is more that wants to express and exchange itself than already has between us, but it of course depends on our free will and desire. I have no fear for its desire and energy, and thus want to offer you this channel of emptiness in full, if you so desire it.

If you consent, haha, and feel this potential as well, I love to take you out to dinner maybe tomorrow evening, or just come visit you sometime after work so we can connect some more and just to get to know you a little better on an earthly level. I suggest by ourselves so we can be more dropped in and quiet within. More presence. I love hanging out, being social with our group of friends, but it does not allow for the consciousness to unify beyond the physical focus very much.

It does not fully satisfy the energy that's knocking on my inner doors, so to speak. Some things I can explain also about this energy transfer and how it generally happens and works for me, its nature, etc. If you're curious, it's all pretty cool, just a bit unconventional, uncommon. So sometimes a bit of a disclaimer or explanation is helpful. So the minds involved know what they are dealing with. But I'm confident you already know or intuit or use a lot of this stuff yourself.

I suppose this is basically an elaborate way of asking you out on a date, but I think you understand where I'm coming from. It comes with no expectation or future ideas. It's just a response to what I feel swirling around in the vortex in this present moment opportunity while I'm in the area. I leave on the 21st. I see, honor, and love your everythingness, beingness, totality, and I love to blend my oldness with the fullness of all that you are, more than we presently have allowed.

Such is my offer. As you desire, and to whatever degree you desire it, it's available to you.

As that's not something that before I started mentioning, he was talking about. Also, because I did talk a lot about healing the feminine wounds, which for me was healing sexual violence wounds that run in my ancestral line, you know, he's he's using all of the little things that I was able to give him about my vulnerability to the extent that I gave it because I didn't, I didn't like open up to him, you know.

I was almost like I was there present as as open as I felt comfortable being, but I'm naturally with people around me pretty open with my inner processes. So he's using all of this to hijack and to basically say that there is an energy out there of higher consciousness, 4D, 5D, 12D, whatever you want to call it, that wants to come and see me.

It wants to come through me so much that is bugging him to reach out to me, almost as if he is the messenger of some greater awareness and consciousness that wants to come in, but he's gonna come in through him, you know, basically through his penis. Because what he's insinuating here is like, oh, I want to come over to you, like go visit you after work. Like, excuse me. And and just like the like, I think he also at that point he understood that I wasn't that I had my my my walls.

That's why he's like, Oh, it brings up fear and confusion, and it's so part of the process, and don't worry about it. And then he talked about consent, because I also talked a lot about that, about like consent being something that this world has forgotten. So he's like, if you consent, ha ha. So it's it's definitely up until this day, the most manipulative message that I've ever received in my life. Um, and the reason why I didn't fall was because, like I said, I had community.

And also, I was repairing my own relationship with my body and my intuition. And whenever this came, it was like, oh my God, thank you. I knew something was off, you know, like I knew I had to like go through a whole healing process with my body and tell it like I'm so sorry, I didn't listen, I didn't trust you. You were telling me, and I'm like, no, but it's gonna be fun, it's fine. This might be a good opportunity, you know.

Like, this is this is what in my in my eyes makes Ventinio so dangerous. That he is such a coward. He doesn't have the spine to tell a woman, hey, I like you and this is what I want. Instead, he has to play all of these little power games, position himself in a in a pedestal of spiritual superiority, as if he has the golden penis on planet Earth that is going to heal and enlighten all of humanity instead of just coming down and speaking person to person, this is what I want.

And this is what makes him dangerous. He's delusional in what he thinks he is, and because of that, he sees people as just vehicles for him to use to what he wants. And the moment you don't engage, then all of a sudden you're the demon, you're the dark one, because he is completely devoid of personal responsibility.

He's like, he's like, oh, like, because he saw my reaction, you know. I'm like, can you believe this tool? Like, look at this. This is ridiculous. One of them made that comment. Like, why not just like ask you out on a normal date and say, like, hey, I want sex. Like, what is, you know? It's like, why all of this? And and then, you know, I I go back and I uh I was like, okay, I messaged, I replied to him, I said, like, I'm gonna sit with this. That's all I said. Um, and then this message, yes.

So this was on Monday, October 14th at um at 2:44 p.m. Then around 8 p.m., I told him, I'm gonna sit with this, and I don't engage with any of the group messages anymore. At 8 p.m., he starts messaging the group again. People start engaging in it. I'm not saying anything. Then at 9 p.m., Corey sends an invitation to the group saying, hey guys, should we hang out also this Thursday? We can come over to my place and have another fun night. And I don't reply. Some people are like, yeah.

Aaron said, yeah. Uh Bentino's like, whoa, be so much fun. They start sending photos of like a party that he wanted to have where he's dressed up as like the Great Gatsby and he's like holding a whiskey glass like that. So ridiculous. And um, I don't engage with them that night.

Then at three in the morning, so this is October, like the next Tuesday, October 15, at three in the morning, Bentinho sends another message, group message, but this time it's a group between Corey, Jacqueline, him, and me. So this is a new group with Arrow no longer in it, and Jacqueline is in this group now.

And this message is basically saying, um, I can I can also read it, but this message basically said that he wants all of us to connect, and he wants just the females, that's the word that he used. He wants just the females to first connect and get all of the feminine uh like juices flowing, and then he will come. Um, and that he wanted to do this sometime this week. So then the of course I'm sleeping. It's Tuesday, 3 a.m.

So whenever I wake up, I message Ventinio and I said that I don't I didn't like his message and I don't want to engage with him anymore. To please not contact me again. He doesn't respond, but then Corey messages me and tells me, like, hey, we should, uh, Ventinho told me that uh you got a bit spooked. I think we should meet for coffee so we can talk because you know sometimes people don't understand Bentinho.

Sometimes they just don't, he can come off as so like, you know, intense, but it's just it all comes from purity and from a very beautiful place. So let's have coffee. And I said, I'm not interested in coffee. Oh, so she said let's have coffee or cacao again, because they're using what I said. I told them I love cacao, I will make cacao in the office, and they're like, Oh, we can have coffee or cacao to talk about it. And I said, no, I'm not interested in meeting.

And then I just leave all the groups and I never speak to them again.

Because it was after the party, but it was before that private invitation where the girls were gonna connect into the females were gonna connect uh and like be with feminine energy so that then he could come in, like as what? Like the majestic stallion that he is, it's just so um out of place.

I I think over the years, people have asked me if I was like scared of Ventinio or nervous, and for me, it's like, no, I find him amusing because I I for me the the thing that I know about him, it was dealing with a 13-year-old boy trapped in the body of a young man, and he behaves as such, and then to have the emotional maturity of a 13-year-old boy with the grandiose complex, grandiosity complex of I am I am a god, you know, I am above, I am the teacher of humanity, and it's like it's such a

dangerous combination. Also, the little the little game that they do with like, oh, but I'm not your guru. After they have positioned themselves in in this little hierarchy through everything, speaking, teaching the other ones, and then they say that, you know, it's almost like he's constantly hiding. He's like, he's showing up his true colors and then he's protecting himself. And this is true both spiritually and then also physically.

He shows his true nature and then he tries to hide behind NDAs, behind legal protection, behind all of the silencing people, taking their voice away.

And I find generally the women are not looking for, they're not looking to hook up with some guru. They're looking for some deep connection, something they feel is missing, something that is not expressed in society, and they're sold beauty and connection and communion, and meanwhile, the guy's selling dick, basically. And so that's what I see, and I see and I see that as heartbreaking for a number of women, but I wanted to get your perspective and what do you see as the dangers in this field?

Sometimes it's something that has been carried along generation after generation. So to find somebody that is in a state of, I'm not sure I want to hold on to this identity anymore. I want to see what really I am, and I'm gonna dissolve that and I'm gonna dive into my vulnerability, my pain, my wound, and I'm going to really feel what's there. And to target people in the most vulnerable state is the equivalent of targeting innocence for me.

Because none of the women that I've met in these retreats have gone in with like this, like, well, I know better. There's always a sense of like just surrender, like, you know what? I try to be the strong woman, I try to fight this, I try to submit to what society told me, and I'm willing to do it differently. And targeting somebody that's in a healing process is the most depraved thing that a person can do.

It is violating the natural order of being a human and becoming a human and our individuation. The world is corrupted enough. Life, the systems that we have, they wound us at a foundational level. And women uh especially that go into this healing process, they go in fully open. And the amount of spiritual teachers and healers that I have personally witnessed with my own eyes abusing their power, it's it's like it's unspeakable of, Mark.

Like people, big names, because again, I had exposure to a lot of these big names, even at Gaia, and I saw things. I've I've been in retreats where I've seen the abuse of power. I've seen shamans taking advantage of the people that are fully opening psychedelics. I've seen people like Ventinio and other spiritual teachers that project this mask, position themselves as the answer outside of the person, and then use that to feed whatever delusion they have in their mind.

And we are in a time where we're in a crisis point collectively. This is like a point of inflection where healing really needs to start happening from the core out. And for women specifically, because it's easier for us to connect with sadness, because that's more allowed. I like one. Of the most healing emotions that we can feel is that rage. The rage that says no more. Because it is that rage that allows you to put the boundaries, the rage that allows you to say, like, this is enough.

You want to demonize me? Go ahead. Talk all the crap that you want. But this is what I have to say, and this is my voice. And we need more women to do that, to speak up, speak their truth from their womb to their throat, out into the world. And we need men that are that have the spine to hold the space and sit with how uncomfortable it is to hear about these stories of abuse.

Because it is uncomfortable for everybody, for the person feeling it, and then also for the person witnessing it in another human happening. We cannot look away from the darkness. What Bentinho teaches is spiritual bypassing. It's like ignore this because it's not real, transcended, transcended, escape.

That is so irresponsible, and it shows lack of maturity, spiritual maturity from the people that choose to go the easy route of spiritually bypassing and thinking like, oh, that's not mean low vibration, negative energy, I don't want it, versus admitting the responsibility that we all have to deal with these collective shadows. Almost every woman that I know, every single woman that I know, has at least one incident of sexual trauma. Every single one.

And if you tell me, no, I don't, then you're not, you're not speaking to women enough. Because this is a bigger problem. And people like Ventinio are gonna use this for their own benefit. And it's also our job, the women that were victimized by men like that, to speak up, even if you're gonna get canceled, even if you're going to uh be shamed, even if somebody's gonna yell at you, so what? Let them. Who are you really?

Because uh bad opinion from the world is not gonna destroy the true essence of what you are. And for people that are indulging in this, it's just take some responsibility for the shadows of the world. They're here and they're ready for us to to look and accept and admit and just see the reality for what it is. The fire came out.

I mean, I've met them that said that, but I know it's not true that they're just so disconnected from the trauma, which I understand.

How many more years of my life I would have lost had I fallen for Bentino's mind games and ended up in a position to be abused, like he's abused so many women. And the thought of that, it like sends shivers down my spine because I'm like, oh my God, how many? You know, 10, 14 years instead of seven of like just consistently sitting with your own darkness and with the pain and with the rage and with all of the uncomfortable emotions.

So I think that the fact that you're doing this as a man is very important in these conversations to have um our supporters, to have male allies, men that know how to stand up for what's right and that are not just getting lost in all the spiritual talk that's so blah, blah, blah. Some of the best men I've met, some of the healthiest relationships I've had have been with men that have no idea what a chakra is.

They simply they're simply men of values with with direction, with a connection to themselves. So this, we need more of this. So I want to, yes, to invite women to like speak up, use their voice, and then also men to like be there, like be there within this process and provide your support because we need to collectively do this healing work.