Throughout the eighties and nineties, gang violence plagued the Humboldt Park area of Chicago, and on January sixteenth, nineteen ninety three, members of the Spanish Cobras fired upon three members of the Latin Kings, killing one young man and injuring another. A passer by in a vehicle was also struck by
a stray bullet. A confidential informants tip naming sixteen year old Fabian Santiago, allegedly made its way through a few detectives before reaching the lead detective on the case, Ernest Halferson. When the police arrested Fabian, they also claimed to have
found a gun in Fabian's bedroom. Then two eye witnesses, including one of the surviving victims, identified Fabian from a lineup, even though the witness's initial descriptions varied wildly from Fabian, who was also not a member of the Spanish Cobras. It was going to take a whole lot more to outweigh the state's case. But this is wrongful conviction. Welcome back to wrongful conviction. And we're here today with a story that has so much corruption, and I'll call it
it's pure evil. The miracle is that the man himself who was victimized by these horrible detectives and others. Is that the fact that he's still alive, Fabian Santiago, welcome to wrongful conviction.
Thank you very much for having me and with him.
Ashley Cohen is a partner at Bungin Law Group, and she and her partner are responsible for justice having been not denied, delayed horribly, but not denied after all these years. So Ashley, thank.
You for being here, Thanks for having me Jason, and.
Let's get right into it. This crime is a horrible crime with real victims. But this was back in in an era when the Humble Park area of Chicago was riddled with violence. So it was a horrible crime, but also enforcing not a crime that you wouldn't hear about fairly regularly.
Well for anyone who's aware of Humble Park. It's a world of difference today than what it previously was. It was the height of the crack epidemic, utterly gang and drug infested. Many murders did not even make the news at that time. It wasn't a place for anyone to live, let alone for a kid to grow up. I remember I would look down and broad daylight to the corner of my block, and I would see dozens of gang members women prostituted themselves in open air drug markets. This
is what I grew up to. In fact, early on I couldn't have been more than ten years old. There was a rival gang member who was on a bike driving down my street and the gang members that lived in my neighborhood spotted him and chased him down and blew his brains out.
That was Humble Park, terrifying story. And there are countless murders that weren't solved, and then there were countless others that were listed as solved that were actually not solved at all, like the one we're about to talk about. But usually we start by telling what was your life like before this happened. You were really just a child.
I was four days and attorney sixteen years old when I was framed for murder.
Previously, we've covered cases from this year in Humboldt Park, Marilyn Malaro and Jacques Rivera, and we'll have their stories linked in the bio, both of whom were also victims of the same notorious detectives Ernest Halverson and Ronaldo Guevera.
Make no mistake about it, Detective Halverson, Guevara in this group of rogue detectives functioned as nothing less than a criminal organization, not out of a crack house, not out of a gang infested neighborhood, out of the Area five police precinct.
And let us not forget that then, in case you think there's any hyperbole here, since the nineteen eighties, over one hundred cases proven in which Chicago police officers fabricated false evidence and or suppressed exculpatory evidence in order to directly cause the convictions of innocent people for serious violent crimes that they didn't commitment.
Ye. Yes, and I think it needs to be emphasized the fact that these are just the cases that have come to light. There have been men who have died in prison because of cases like this, irreparably damaged. I have no men who took their lives because of the cold and stark realities that one has to deal with in the prison system.
This detective team, Guavara and Halverson, ran a gang unit that often investigated the activity of Puerto Rican gangs like the Latin Kings, the Latin Disciples, the Spanish Cobra. Is just to day a few. But what is also clear is that there are varying degrees to which the residents of humbold Park were actually even involved in gang activity, if at all. Now, Fabian lived in an area of control by the Latin Disciples.
And I'm sure Fabian could speak to this more than I can. But during this time period, if you lived on a certain block, you were associated with a certain gang. It didn't matter if you actually were in a gang, if you ever were initiated. Fabian didn't have a history of violent there was nothing in his record, but the area where he lived and who he hung around with, all of a sudden he is part of the specific gang.
There was stipulation that I was associated with the Latin Disciples, and that was not even the organization that had carried out this homicide, which was according to these police reports, the Spanish Cobras.
And the incident at the crux of Fabian's wrongful conviction appears to have been a gang hit on the Latin Kings, which happened on January sixteenth, nineteen ninety three.
Three individuals, William Stewart, John Meatos and Pedro Muriel were walking home from a liquor store in Humble Park and guns were fired in their direction. One of the offenders yelled King killer and Cobra Love before basically pulling out a handgun and shooting it multiple times in the direction
of the victims. William Stewart died as a result of the gunshot wounds, Muriel suffered a gunshot wound that hospitalized him for six weeks, and Marcelia Hernandez, she was driving by in a vehicle, had sustained minor injuries as well. The offenders fled down an alley, and so there's a death, there's another attempt murder, and there's another individual who is injured. And there were a ton of witnesses, several of whom could not make identifications, could not give much of any information.
About the shooters. But there were these two.
Individuals, Matos and Rivera, who ultimately were the ones who gave a description and eventually allegedly identified Fabian in lineups and testified a trial.
Matos, a Latin King, was one of the targets. Rivera was a gang member as well, so you can easily imagine that they would have been easy for the police
to coerce. However, Marcella Hernandez, the driving passer by caught in the gunfire, and her younger sister Lrena were able to give descriptions as well, and while the age description for the primary shooter varied from late teens to mid twenties, all the witnesses agreed that he was white Hispanic, about five ten, one hundred and eighty pounds, either a mustache or a beard, and the accomplice was described as a mid twenties Hispanic male about six feet tall and two hundred pounds.
And at the time I was only approximately five foot three or four one hundred pounds. I was sixteen years old. The shooter who was described as a left handed shooter, I've been right handed all my life, so in no way, shape or form did they resemble my description.
Another thing that makes no sense about this case is the fact that the shooter yelled out Cobra loved King Killer, basically proclaiming his affiliation with the Spanish Cobras and the intended victims of Latin kings. Meanwhile, as we mentioned, Fabian lived in Latin Disciple territory. But Fabian was drawn into this mess when Detective Ernest Halverson alleged that he received a tip from another detective, Bill Dorsh.
What happens is Halverson says that he was told by Bill Dorsch that Dorsch received a tip from another officer who said an informant told him that he heard Fabian ragging about shooting some kings and that the gun used and the shooting was in Fabian's house.
They came pounding at the door and I was taking immediately into custody.
And he's sixteen years old.
He doesn't have a parent, he doesn't have a lawyer, and he's placed in an interrogation room at Area five.
My grandmother at the time is whom I was staying with. She was my legal guardian. She arrived at the police station with an aunt of mine, Alberta Perez, and she demanded to see me. She made it abundantly clear that she wanted an attorney president and to be there as well. My aunt translated for her and informed them that they were prohibited from seeing me at that time because of our lineups being conducted, that he would call them back. They never called them.
So they put Fabian in a lineup for the witnesses Matos Rivera as well as Marcella and Lorena Hernandez, all of whom were between the ages of fourteen and seventeen.
And we've developed significant evidence that shows that there was a pattern where these Area five detectives investigating these cases would usually prey on the younger victim and or witnesses officers like Wavara and officers like Halverson, who would tell them who to pick out in a lineup.
In fact, Dorshe in another.
Case, testifies that he saw Guavara do this in a lineup where Guavara basically said pick out that guy, that's the one who did it, and Dorsch was like, what are you doing. You're not allowed to tell somebody who to pick out in a lineup.
During the lineup, I was the only one that was made to stand up and yell out hober Love King Killer, the only one. And no one in that lineup resembled me. Everyone was an adult taller older than me. And even with that, you had the two women that were driving by in the motor vehicle. They told the detectives we did not see him do anything. We do not want
to identify someone who was not involved. We don't want someone who's innocent going to prison and the police completely blew up on them, telling her this is the guy who did it. All you need to do is point them out.
So this whole concept of these young kids picking out individuals in a lineup. Although it seems, oh, you have two eyewitnesses who are identifying Fabian as the shooter, it's usually bogus.
But unfortunately this information did not come to light until Fabian had already spent decades in prison. So after this pretty much directed identification from Matos and Rivera at Area five, Fabian was returned to the interrogation room, where the misconduct continued.
Halverson tells Fabian that Fabian needed to sign a consent to search his house so that he can protect his personal property, which may be destroyed once they go back there and search his house.
They're yelling and screaming at me, telling me to sign. I had requested the presence of counsel, my grandmother. They weren't trying to hear any of that. They were doing everything they could to terrorize and just to get me to relent. They will, look, at least you're going to be reimbursed if your stuff is destroyed, because we are going to destroy your stuff and I ultimately ended up
signing that form. The thing was later on, I came to understand, according to my aunt, that as soon as I was taken into custody, these detectives were already tearing up my home. So irregardless whether they had obtained a written consent for me or not, they had already been conducting the search, so this was all just simply to cover their asses.
Fabian was initially charged with illegal possession of a firearm, so outside the presence of counsel or a guardian, they got mission to find the gun that they originally arrested him for. With this trickery to obtain the consent for a search, one can only surmise that they did not have the probable cause to get a judge to sign off on a search warrant.
It was further solidified that they were planting this firearm when William Dorsch came forward and attested I had not produced an informant probable cause, and if I had gathered this evidence, I would have come myself to have arrested you. I would not have involved these detectives because I had known even at that time that they were so corrupt.
Again, this is information that didn't come to light until Fabian had already spent almost thirty years in prison. And we'll come back to these revelations from William Dorritsch a bit later. So back to the interrogation room, they had gotten the search consent signed, and then shortly after Detective Halverson returned with this gun and pointed it in Fabian's face, saying, quote, now you know how it feels. This is the gun that you had unquote.
And when he pointed it to my head, I insisted that the firearm was at mine, that I wasn't involved he assaulted me.
So no surprise that you ultimately relented and just said, I'll tell you what you want to hear. So they now had a false confession.
Well, the only thing that came in at trial was that Fabian made alleged oral statements to Halverson. So even though Fabian had a gun pointed at him, was beaten up by Halverson, he still would not give a written statement to the state's attorney.
I never signed off on any confession and it was not recorded.
To recap. Detective Halverson and his cohorts had an alleged, unrecord ordered oral confession. The directed identification from Matos and Rivera and this gun that was almost certainly planted that they claimed magic bullets founded the scene. At this time, Fabian's grandmother sold her home to post his bond and help him out a defense. Yet somehow Fabian had even more dire problems than this case.
Back at this time, the gangs ruled these neighborhoods with an iron fist. And because I was implicated in this crime, the laon Kings had placed a contract hit out on me and they tried to gun me down in a card chase, and they left a note on my grandmother's house saying we know where you live.
So he's again wrongly accused, wrongly accused by the gangs, and he's wrongly accused by the officers.
There is no rationalizing, there is no talking it out. Not only my own health and safety, but my families was at risk. And I left.
So where the hell did you go? Where is a sixteen years kid with no resources with everybody looking for them, Where the hell do you go and hide?
I left the state of a noise. I just bounced around. I wasn't in one single place for too long, whether it was a friend or finding a hotel room or an apartment, whatever the case may have been. Unfortunately, I had to utilize whatever methods were necessary for me to survive selling drugs or just working a part time gig or whatever have you.
Okay, so then finally you get tried in absentia. We've literally never had that happen on the show. Ashley, give us the cliff notes of this ridiculous trial.
Okay.
So Fabian has a private attorney. He goes to trial before a judge by the name of Judge Tuman, who was notoriously known for being very hard on juveniles. They show up for trial, Judge says, where's mister Santiago and his attorney says, I don't know, can we postpone?
And Judge says, well, he was told to be here at ten am. We're going for.
Basically, the evidence at trial is these two eyewitnesses who identify him in the lineup, which we know were bogus, and Halverson testifies that he recovered a gun in Fabian's home which was tested and the ballistics matched the gun that.
Was used in the shooting.
And there is a state's attorney who provides testimony of alleged oral inculpatory statements. He testifies that Fabian admitted to participating in the shooting, and that's what he's convicted on, which, if you're looking at it objectively, seems kind of alike a lot of evidence. The problem is all of it was built on a lie and none of it is actually legitimate. I mean, I think the state's attorney, what he did at this time is almost as appalling as
what the officers did. I mean, they knew what was going on behind closed doors. There was no court reporter present, there was no handwritten statement, there was nothing memorialized on paper. It was just oral statements that come in through Halverson and through this prosecutor.
So that is just absurd in my mind.
Other than cross examining Matos and Rivera about the inconsistencies between their descriptions of the assailants and Fabian, not much of a defense was mounted at all. Plus the appearance
of going on the lamb probably was not helpful. So the jury reached a predictable conclusion, and on May eighteenth, nineteen ninety four, Fabian was convicted of murder, attempted murder, as well as related firearms charges, and sentenced to ninety years news that he received while he was still on the run for his very life.
It was crushing and as horrific as it was for that type of sentence to have been handed down, my only focus was on staying away from Chicago to stay alive. Over a year and a half later, I was depleted of funds and I came back to Chicago trying to get to assistance, and as I was walking the street, I don't know if they knew who I was or they were just stopping me, and ultimately I was brought back into custody.
Now Fabian was not only made to serve this insane sentence, but he was also being tried for jumping bail, so ten more years were added on to this ninety year sentence.
Ten years also for a bail jumping is absurd. That was a judge being pissed to sell that he didn't show up the trial.
I had a public defender. She didn't ask me why I was unable to attend my trial. She could care less. She simply was yelling and telling me, look, the judge is pissed off. You need to take this plea. I figured that it made little of any difference, and I accepted it for a total of a one hundred year prison sentence. Because of the incredible amount of time that I was incarcerated. I was in every single maximum state penitentiary in Illinois several times over. It was very violent
and you had to defend yourself. There was men who were stabbed up, murdered. In fact, I know of one incident where a cellmate got involved in a physical confrontation with his cellmate and he tore his eyeballs out. He's blind and he threw his eyes on the gallery. The carnage was incredible. I knew men who have taken their lives for far less than what I had endured, simply because they didn't want to deal with how cold and stark that reality was. The United States government propagates this
belief that China Russia engaged in human rights abuses. People in this country are tortured every day in the prison system.
So getting Fabian out of that horrible situation could not have been more urgent. But the appeals process moved very slowly.
I went through the core process, ineffective assistance of counsel, unlawful searces and seizures. I got nowhere very quick.
And one thing that was crazy is his pellet attorney. She didn't raise the issue of him being tried in abstentia. So when you don't raise the issue on direct appeal, you ultimately waive it because it's not preserved.
I mean, I don't know how you don't raise that.
While I was in prison, I immersed myself in study and litigation. I pursued numerous litigations against the Illinois Department of Corrections, civil litigations. From these lawsuits that I would succeed in, I was able to pay for my own lawyers, and every one of these attorneys did nothing but sell me a pipe dream and take my money, and worst of all, cause even further years, if not decades, of
my life being wasted away in prison. Ultimately, I wrote Jennifer bon Jin requesting legal representation, and later on she had seen me on Zoom and she had beare witness personally to my outage about my innocence.
During COVID, a lot of the hearings began to take place on zoom, and when you had the zoom meeting for the judge in front of whom you had the case, he would often end up listening in on the proceedings for four years, you know, while you're waiting for yours to come up. And as a result of that, Ashley's partner Jennifer bon Jean overheard Fabian's arguments.
It was around Halloween twenty twenty, and I remember her calling me and she was like, I just watched the craziest thing on zoom in Judge Kenworthy. This guy, he's a Halberson case and he is in on a legal sentence, was advocating for himself.
I was arguing, basically before the court, look, I'm actually innocent of these crimes. However, it would make a flying fuck of a difference to me if I were guilty of everything I've done. The prison time of three or four men I knew, men whom had been given twenty years for murders. They did ten years, and they went home. And here I was riding away from the age of a sixteen year old kid, completely innocent of the charges, and I had lost almost thirty years already.
By this time, a slew of landmarks gotis rulings had made mandatory juvenile sentencing statutes unconstitutional. So Ashley and Jennifer were able to split Fabian's actual innocence claim from his resentencing, and they tackled that first.
With the resentencing, I would have been required to have completed a prison sentence of seventeen years, so I had completed that sentence by over a decade, which required my immediate discharge from custody.
The resentencing hearing was January seventh, twenty twenty two. On January twelfth, twenty twenty two, he's released.
It was surreal. I had fought so long for that day, and unfortunately I had been gone for such an incredible period of time that all of my immediate family were gone. My mother and my only brother had passed away while I was in prison. I didn't have any home. My grandmother, who made every sacrifice, was suffering from dementia. This woman raised me, She cared for me and provided for me. She went into financial ruin to help me. She lost her house, she lost everything, and now she could not
even remember my name. When I got out of prison, I didn't even have anyone to pick me up. Arrangements had to be made for someone to pick me up and to take me to a homeless shelter.
Yeah.
So Robert Almodovar is another one of our clients, and he does amazing work since he's been out. He was released in twenty seventeen, and all our clients who have been released since, he's just amazing. He drives them and he picks them up, takes them where they needed.
He was there for me and I was tremendously grateful for that. And I remember him telling me he was going to get me a cheap phone so I could have a means of communication. And I told him I don't need a phone. I don't have many people in my life. If I need to make a phone call, I can walk down to the corner store and use the pay phone. And he goes, Fabian, you don't understand. You've been gone so long. Payphones don't exist out here anymore. I got to get your phone.
It's absolutely devastating to know that Fabian lost so many years. Will all along the information that would have and could have set him free was readily available but hidden from view, and so in pursuit of his innocence claims, Ashley and Jennifer reached out to William Dorsch.
We had worked with Dorish in the past.
He was a witness and actually Robert Al the Dovar's case and in other cases and pattern in practice cases as it relates to Guevara. And when we got Fabian's homicide file, we saw Dorsh's name was on it, and he read the report and he, in no uncertain terms
said this never happened. What Halverson puts in his report is Halverson says Officer Cruise from the twentieth District contacted Bill Dorsch, who was in the same area as Halverson, and told him about this alleged tip Okay said Fabian was running around on his birthday saying, my birthday present was shooting.
Up these people.
Basically, Bill Dorsch said, if an officer from another district had told me about an informant, I would have memorialized at some where. I would have documented all of this. And there was none of that. And there was a signature by him allegedly, but he said it wasn't his signature.
It was forged. Yes, William Dortch's testimony was groundbreaking. We wouldn't have been able to prove. Look, they falsified police reports that William Dortch had conducted lineups. He goes, I wasn't even in the police station doing any of this. They signed his name off. Why would you need to do that? You're clearly involved in something of a nefarious nature.
You had a cycle of concocted story after story, lying about informants police reports, conducting unlawful searches and seizures, taking people into custody, illegally, beating suspects into confessions, and pointing a gun at them. I mean, when you have that cocktail of criminal misconduct on the part of these detectives, you got to ask what is their motive here? William Dorts came forward basically affirming my colleagues were bunch of corrupt detectives.
Pretty courageous on his part.
Ultimately he provides us an Affidavid, and we attached his affidavit along with the police reports to the petition and we file the petition.
Meanwhile, even more information came to light.
Approximately six months ago, I went to a new doctor and her medtech's name was Ellie, and they had mentioned that there were various medical records that were missing, and I had explained to them that I was wrongfully convicted. I gave some account of what I had been subjected to. About two months later, I came back to that same doctor's office and the tech Ellie tells me, Fabian, we
live in a very small world. My mother was involved in our Kavara case, and every time we see any cases involving men who were innocent, we always relate back
to her experience. And she explained to me that her mother and her mother's sister who were driving by in a car, and that her mother had been struck in the bottox with a bullet, and that when her mother and his sister were requested to identify and pick someone out of the lineup, they refused to do so because they didn't want to send an innocent man in prison. And these officers were yelling and screaming at them, telling them to pick this person out of a lineup, and
they were terrorized. They left that police station utterly distraught, feeling that the police officers were going to do something to them, were going to hurt them or try to even arrest them, but they did not relent. And I told her that was me in the lineup that your mother and her sister refused to identify, and she told me I know it was you. I know you were innocent, and my mother and her sister talk about it all
the time. Every time they see the news, every time they see someone that was released, they always talk about you. And I know it was your case. That's why I told you, and I completely broke down.
And of course, Ellie, the medtech was none other than Marcella Hernandez's daughter. Her aunt Lorena had given an UPIDAVID that included all of this information in April twenty twenty two, and Fabian was exonerated that October without even having to go through an evidentiary hearing. However, the certificate of innocence didn't come as easily, but came nonetheless in July twenty
twenty three, making him eligible for state compensation. But the content of the pending civil litigation has been some of the most convincing yet a major Brady violation. The gun allegedly used in the shooting had been obtained by the detective Guevara from a gang member, not from Fabian's bedroom. This detective team, Guevara and Halverson have already cost Chicago upwards of eighty two million dollars. Last time we covered
one of their cases, it was fifty one million. And that's just from the innocent men and women who were able to jump through all of the hoops and made it to this level of the exoneration journey. We don't know how many others are out there, but hopefully will find them all.
You have figures such as this eighty two million dollars plus being thrown out there that have resulted from settlements in these wrongful conviction cases just under Ronaldo Guevara or his crew. That does not entail the tens of millions of dollars that the City of Chicago is also paid in legal expenses to defend against these cases.
These cases penned from anywhere from four to seven years. They have one outside firm that represents the City of Chicago. They have one outside firm that represents Guavara. They have another outside firm that represents all the other defendant officers. So no fewer than three firms are on every single one of our civil rights cases that we have that
involve Guavara. And when you think about the amount of money that these firms build a city to litigate losing cases for four to seven years, it is absolutely insane. Not only are they paying attorney's fees all throughout the process, there is a statute that says, if we win, not only are we entitled to the judgment and award whatever that may be. Fabian did thirty years, he gets thirty million dollars, but we can also petition the court for our attorney's fees.
In addition to that the tens of millions of dollars that the City of Chicago is also paid to convene hearings for the city council. You're talking about well into the hundreds of millions of dollars now.
Instead of looking at these cases individually from the beginning and saying is this even winnable than saying, hey, he did twenty three years in prison, I'm going to offer him twelve fifteen something of that sort. They would rather spend four to seven years pay outside council. I mean, we just filed five civil rights lawsuits in September, Lovy and Lovy just filed another eleven. They have more coming
down the pike. Like that's crazy amounts of money, and it just prolongs the trauma of these guys who have already suffered so much.
I got to waste another half decade of my life to find get some resolution to this matter when they know full well what is going on here.
We need to make a push to city Council. You need to do a better job at assessing these cases early on.
The mayor needs to do something now, not when the stars are politically aligned for him to do something about it, not during the next election cycle. Now.
So maybe that should be this week's call to action. We're going to call on the folks in power at Chicago to put an end to this madness. Pay these men and women what they deserve, because, let's face it, no one can give them back the time that was stolen from them. And with that, let's go to closing arguments, where I'm going to thank both of you, Ashley and Fabian. I mean, I don't even have the right words to
express how sorry I am for this unbelievable ordeal. And you know how grateful i am to you both for being here. And now I'm just going to kick back in my chair with my headphones on and my eyes closed and listen to any final time you have, starting with Ashley and saving our guest of honor for last.
I just want to thank you guys for bringing this to light and for doing the work that you do because you know as much as we advocate in the courtroom, it's really important for people outside of the courtroom to really bring to light the travesties of justice that are happening as we speak in not just the city of Chicago, but all over the world. And I think it's really important. So I commend you guys for really focusing on these wrongful conviction cases.
I really appreciate you guys inviting me on and having me. Whomever is out there listening needs to express outrage about what's going on here. This can't be allowed to function
as the norm. There's no way in the world that you can have men and women that are framed by corrupt detectives just languish in prison and rot away for not years, decades, and then if that's not sufficient, to come out of prison and still have to fight the government for years more before these cases are finally resolved. The underlying problem is not simply corrupt detectives. It's systemic corruption.
These detectives would never be able to get away with what they're involved in if it wasn't for their supervisors. Whether it's a sergeant, a lieutenant, a captain, whether it's a prosecutor, a judge, or the Chicago City Council and its legal department. This is nothing new. These cases go back even before John Burge. But John Burge was a breaking point that should have caused dramatic reform in the system,
and that has not been the case. The City of Chicago's it's council members having brought about sweeping reform to root out crooked corrupt cops. In fact, all they've done is take issue with the fact that now they're dealing with numerous multimillion dollar lawsuits. These lawsuits would never have come to pass if it wasn't for them allowing or
turning a blind eye to this level of corruption. No one is held accountable to this very day, not one of these corrupt detectives out of the Ronaldo Gavara crew has so much as been administratively held accountable, let alone criminally prosecuted. And as long as these people are not going to prison the same way poor people go to prison and they're protected by the government, these abuses are going to continue.
Thank you for listening to Wrongful Conviction. You can listen to this and all the Lava for Good podcasts one week early by subscribing to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts. I want to thank our production team Connor Hall and Kathleen Fink, as well as my fellow executive producers Jeff Kempler, Kevin Wartis, and Jeff Cliburn. The music in this production was supplied by three time OSCAR nominated
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