On June nineteenth, nineteen eighty eight, Vincent Wright and his girlfriend Anssia Johnson were parked outside a one stop convenience store in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. While an Assia waited in the car, Vincent went behind it to fill the rear tire with air. Suddenly, two armed gunmen approached, demanding money. Vincent said he didn't have any. Just then another man pulled up in a brown Oldsmobile and told the two
gunmen to take Vincent's car. Andissy had jumped out of the car, and the two men sped off, followed by the Oldsmobile. Police had no leads and did little to investigate until Vincent's brother gave them the license number of a brown Oldsmobile he had seen driving around. The car belonged to twenty two year old Sidney Holmes, who soon became the focus of the investigation, but Sydney denied any involvement, claiming to have been over a mile away at the time.
After viewing two photo arrays, both of which contained Sydney's picture, as well as a live lineup in which Sydney participated, Vincent identified him as the man in the brown car. It seemed to make sense. Why would one person be shown in repeated lineups if the police didn't think he was guilty? But this is wrongful conviction. Welcome back to
Wrongful Conviction. Before we even get into introductions with YouTube, gentlemen, I just want to give the listener a little heads up about the insanity that is about to unfold in their headphones. The thing that really gets me most about this case is that the prosecution initially recommended an eight hundred and twenty five year sentence, and even without knowing
what you were accused of. I just want that to resonate because I can't wrap my head around of what kind of a heinous crime would warrant such a long sentence. My name is Lauren brad Pacheco, and I'm a broadcast journalist and a podcaster of such series as Murder in Oregon, Murder in Illinois, and Murder in Miami. And I am very honored to be sitting in this seat filling in for Jason Flohm. But I'm also very honored to be speaking to you too, Sydney Holmes. Welcome to Wrongful Conviction,
thanks for having us. And also joining us today is Brandon Sheck Staff attorney with the Innocence Project of Florida.
Welcome Brandon, Thanks Lauren, it's great to be here.
Sidney. Can you just tell me a little bit about your upbringing and your family.
Well, I grew it up in a household with two parents. I have two sisters. We grew up in a Christian household. We know, very loving, family, were very close, all kind of functions. Family functions were always coming together Thanksgiving, you know, Christmas and all of the other days. The thing with me, I was always a book run I'm always, you know, a gadget type of guy. You know, I always the intelligent. I always want to be the smartest guy in the in the room. I was always that kind of guy.
And Sydney, just take me to who you were at the age of twenty two, the year that this happened in your life. What were your interests, you know, what were your hopes and plans for the future at that age.
Well, age twenty two, I was working at a hospital in which they was going to send me to school for a surgic technician. So, you know, I feel like my future was bright at that time. I was highly into the medical field. I was highly ambitionous, but it didn't happen.
And the irony is you had had two prior incidences run ins with the but you had turned your life around at that point, correct, Yes, ma'am.
It was a robbery case that at the same instinct, I was taking a coworker home and he went inside and committed to crimes without my knowledge, and I was charged with the crime as well.
But as I understand it, you did plead guilty in that case, even though you say you had no idea the robbery was going on. Were you offered some kind of plea deal or were you told that if you pled guilty it would make things easier.
Yes, that was the case.
So when all of this went down, you were seen as a previous prior offender, yes, ma'am. All right, And so Brandon, can you just take me to the time and the place that we're talking about. This happened in Fort Lauderdale, But give me an idea of what the scene was in nineteen eighty eight when the crime occurred. Just in terms of the relationship between the police and the public.
Well, you know, Broward County, Florida, has a history, and it's a well documented history.
At that time in Fort Lauderdale.
There were a lot of these types of armed robberies, and actually the arrest rate where police made arrests in those cases was quite low.
It was twenty to twenty five percent.
So there are a large number of these types of crimes happening, and you know, not enough police a lot of cases, had not a lot to go on, and so there are a lot of these unsolved cases. And so in those cases, you know, we see shortcuts being taken, and definitely we see shortcuts being taken here in Sydney's case, and those shortcuts definitely directly led to his wrongful conviction.
And probably contributed significantly to the fact that Broward County doesn't have a great track record when it comes to wrongful convictions. In fact, according to the National Registry of Exonerations, he leads the way in Florida with thirteen out of ninety one wrongful convictions.
That's correct.
There's definitely a long history, and of course that history affected a lot of folks, and you know, there's ongoing work, you know, still with our organization with the State Attorney's Office to try to assist individuals that we can identify that were affected by that history, and Sydney here in this case was definitely one of those folks.
I think it's also important to note that a lot of those wrongful convictions occurred under the watch of Florida's longest serving State Attorney, Mike Satz. I believe Satz was in office for almost fifty years.
Yeah, that's correct. And you know, to mister Satz's credit, you.
Know, one of the things that he did on the way out was established this conviction Review Unit, and that has continued, the review unit with great support by the current State Attorney, mister Harrold Pryor. But yes, it's quite unusual, especially in such a large jurisdiction as the seventeenth Circuit Broward County, to have someone with that amount of power for that long.
Okay, so now let's talk about the crime. This occurred on June nineteenth, nineteen eighty eight, Father's Day. The two victims, Vincent Wright and his girlfriend Anessia Johnson, were outside of a convenience store gas station. An Isia was sitting in the car and Vincent was putting air in the tires.
Yeah, so there were there were two perpetrators that were armed that came up to them and demanded money, demanded possessions. The victims didn't have anything to give them. I think the perpetrators were kind of frustrated by that. And you know, simultaneous to that, a third person driving a brown Oldsmobile kind of came up onto the scene as it's unfolding and told the two armed perpetrators, Hey, you just take their car. And so the two armed perpetrators stole the
victim's car and drove off on the scene. And that third individual got back into the brown Oldsmobile and also drove off from the scene.
And where were you, Sydney At six thirty pm that night when the crime.
Occurred, I was celebrating Father's Day with my father, friends, neighbors. We were riding up and down the street on a cold car. So for the whole day I was at my parents' house celebrating Father's Day.
And multiple people were able to confirm that.
Yes, multiple pier cond term out way of Boss the whole day.
So after the three perpetrators sped off, an Asia called the police and when the detective showed up, she told him what had happened and described the first two men. She wasn't able to describe the man in the brown car. At this point, Vincent had already set out with a friend to try to chase the stolen car down themselves, but Brandon, they didn't have any success, did they.
Know, so the perpetrators with the stolen car had about a five minute head start. Police actually found the stolen vehicle the next morning and returned it back to Vincent, but essentially police didn't have any leads. They didn't do much of any of their own investigation over the next few days. But meanwhile, Vincent had gone home that night of the crime and had told his brother Milton what
had happened. Interestingly enough, Milton told Vincent that earlier that same day, a group of four people who were also in a brown Olsmobile stopped his car in a street attempting to carjack him and were actually shooting at him. And Milton believed that that same group of folks that tried to carjack him were the same people that tried to or that did rob Vincent and Anicia earlier that same day, and so so Milton decided to take the
investigation into his own hands. Over the next few days, he kind of kept an eye out while he was driving, you know, the streets of Fort Lauderdale to see if he spotted any brown oldsmobiles.
He's basically playing citizen detective.
That's right.
And so he saw one brown oldsmobile, wrote down that license plate, sent it to the police. Police ran it through their system, and came back and told the right brothers, No, actually that's the wrong car. Of course, they're looking for three young black male perpetrators. And I can only imagine that whatever car that brown Oldsmobile that Milton saw was registered to was probably not a young black man.
And so police said, no, that's not a match.
But Milton continued to drive around over the next few days and at one point was driving behind Sydney's car, which was a brown Oldsmobile. So he gave that license number to the police. Police saw that it was registered to Sydney, who, of course is a young black man. And Sydney also had these prior convictions for armed robbery, and at that point it's kind of like bingo, here's the guy that we're looking for. And from that point forward, I would describe police as investigation as tunnel vision.
Essentially.
That's pretty incredible when you think of it. I mean, what are the chances of Sydney having the same car as the perpetrators.
So that's interesting that you mentioned that, because in our post conviction investigation, we consulted with a historian at an Oldsmobile museum in Michigan who told us, you know, you're not going to believe this, but that car and that precise color were the most common car and the most common color of the most common car out on the streets in the United States at that period of time, and so I can only presume that there were hundreds, if not thousands, of these, you know, very type of
brown Oldsmobile driving around the very busy streets of Fort Lauderdale, Florida at that time. The reality is is that if Milton had been driving behind another brown Oldsmobile register to a young black man, then that person might have been wrongfully convicted in this case.
But even by his own description, you know, Sydney's car didn't match because what he described was a similar looking car but had a blown out circle where the lock would have been.
That's right, Milton is definitely the driving force of this investigation, but you know, there were many inconsistencies between the car involved in the one stop robbery, the car involved in the attempted carjacking of Milton and Sydney's car, and so one of the most significant inconsistencies is that the car involved in the one stop crime, in the arm robbery of Milton was described as having a hole in the
trunk kind of where the lock would be. It's possible that that was a stolen car and so the lock was popped out, but Sydney's car didn't have that. Sydney's car, the lock in the back was completely intact. There was otherwise no hole in the trunk, and the state never provided any evidence to suggest that that was ever the case with Sydney's car. And so obviously that's a very glaring inconsistency between Sydney's car and the perpetrator's car. It
just didn't match up. And then, of course the physical description of the perpetrator didn't match up with Sidney either.
Yes, let's talk about their physical characteristics. What was the description given of the man in the brown car.
So in his first deposition, Vincent said that the perpetrator was five foot six. Vincent said that he himself was five foot eight and the perpetrator was shorter. Than he was. He described him as one hundred and seventy pounds, kind of heavy set. He described him as a little bit overweight, and that was not Sydney at the time of the crime.
Sidney just described to me then what your height and weight was at the time of the crime. When you were twenty.
Two, I was six feet one hundred eighty three pounds.
She were a tall, skinny guy.
Yeah, six feet about one eighty three.
Got it.
The lead investigator in this case was Detective Robert Campbell, and it does seem like he was focused on you as the only suspect, despite the fact that the driver of the oldsmobile was not even one of the armed robbers. Sydney, when did you even get an inkling that the police were setting their sights specifically on you?
My car at the time was ready to the address I was using at that time was my grandmother's resident and when they got to tag them rand his number to the address, they came into the house and left a business card. Satday, I need to contact them, these two detectives, in which I did because I have nothing been high, I haven't done anything. So I called them and they came by questioned me and I actually take a photograph to mirect. I didn't think anything was to that.
I gave him a photograph and that was that. That's the first time. The next time I seen them, I was being arrested for ann rovit.
Initially, the victims were shown what we would call mugg book, which is essentially just a large book of photographs of people who had previously been arrested for similar crimes, and neither of the victims made an identification from the mug book. Several days later, Sydney's license plate number was given to the police, and that is the impetus for him becoming
a suspect in this case. And so the police created a six pack, a photo lineup of six photos, including Sydney's, using his booking photo from his prior arrest, from his prior conviction in nineteen eighty four, which would have been four years before this crime occurred, and neither of the victims identified Sidney from that lineup.
But then, of course the photo that Sidney just talked about, the one he freely agreed to give the police, came into play exactly.
And so, as Sidney explained, you know, police came to talk to him and he told them, you know, I didn't do this. I have nothing to hide. Yes, of course, please take a photograph of me, you know, expecting that that photograph is going to help a limit him as a suspect because he knew that he didn't commit this crime. And so a second photo lineup was created using that new photograph of Sydney that he agreed to take, and five different people than from the filler photos in the
first lineup. And so Sidney is the only person that was shown to the victims multiple times.
And it should be noted that Detective Campbell was the one who administered every one of those lineups.
The female victim, she did not identify Sidney. She never made an identification. In the case Vincent, the male victim, he identified Sidney in the second lineup, and that's the principal evidence used to convict him and Sidney.
You know, you were quite willing to assist the detectives in their initial investigation, and turns out there wasn't much of an investigation because you were arrested on October sixth of nineteen eighty eight.
That morning of October sixth, I was sitting at my parents' house, actually talking to my father having breakfast at the kitchen table. Then you know, to the the same to the tapis came knocking at the front door, say they had a warrant for my arrest, armed robbery. They took place at this at that station. I'm looking at him saying, for robbery. I haven't robbed anyone. So, you know, being the humble god I am, you know, the Homer spirit. Okay, I
complied with law enforcement and I was arrested. You know, I can't even put in the words what went through my head. I'm saying, why is I being handcuffed? Why is I being trout with something? Having done I'm twenty two A while you know, what did I do? I was speaceless, go to the kind of jail I'm in art trying to figure it, you know. But like I said,
you know, the resilient person I am. I stayed humble through the process, you know, praying that you know, we got a lawyer and hoping that the true fights that come out. Apparently it didn't.
So a little over six months later, on April twenty fourth, nineteen eighty nine, your trial began. Your defense attorney was Mitchell Pole, and the prosecutor was Peter Magrino, So Brandon, what did the prosecution present.
So essentially it's the identification of Sydney by one of the two victims, and again that's only after the second lineup that he was in, plus whatever stock you want to put into his car being similar, although significantly different than that of the perpetrator's car that he was driving
at the crime scene. I think it's also really important to note that Milton was critical to the investigation, the citizen's investigation that we described, but he was never called to testify at mister Holmes's trial, so the jury never heard his perspective and precisely what he did and what he saw during his own an investigation. And that information is critical because it's the exact reason why Sidney became
a suspect in the first place. And without that citizen investigation, without what Milton did, Sidney would never have been a suspect in this case. So the jury never heard that. You know, Milton is looking for what happens to be the most common car in the United States at that time, and you're just kind of going about his day keeping an eye out looking for that car, and the jury never heard from him.
And the only thing that put Sidney in the.
Crosshairs here is that he has, you know, that type of car, and he's a young black man with the prior arm robbery convictions, and so again that kind of totality of the factors just leads police into tunnel vision that he must have been the person who committed this crime.
I'd also want to know that this identification was the result of planting Sydney's image in Vincent's mind in the first photo array in which he was not identified, followed by an identification in the second after the seed had been planted. Nevertheless, that was the state's case. So what did the defense present?
So the defense's case was that this was a misidentification, that essentially the state got the wrong guy, and to bolster that misidentification defense, the defense presented several alibi witnesses that, like Sidney said, he was at this Father's Day cookout and because he was there, he could not have committed this crime at the one stop. And so essentially what it boils down to is you have on the state side,
the one identification from Vincent. Again that happened only after the second time that he was shown a photo of Sydney. And on the defensive side, you have, I believe, four alibi witnesses who came into court and testified that Sydney was at the father's did cook out at his parents' house, and therefore could not have committed this crime. And so you know, the jury chose the state's evidence, the victim's identification in court over the alibi witnesses who said that
Sydney couldn't have possibly been at the crime scene. Sydney.
Can you just take me to what it was like to sit inside that courtroom?
Well, you know, it was agony. You know, I thought sure that I was going to be going home that day because of lack of evidence, you know, and the alibi witness and alab people's uh standing on the standing total jerum wear my wayabouts. But when they deliberated, you know, came back with it gives a verdict. You know, I was completely and giving them four hundred er sentence at age of twenty two, I was just devastating, you know what a while, you know, and then I have a
six month old child. I had a daughter that was six months so all that was taking away. So I seen none of the childhood. She was two days from being seven months old when I got arrested. I've been in prisonbane thirty four years. My life is just, you know, just a snappery my eye. It was gone for something I haven't done. So how can I feel I was feeling empty? I was, I was devastated, you know. So I don't know, It's just it was just a day that I would never forget. But today I just want to move.
On from So.
Sidney was not ever accused of being one of the guys involved in an armed robbery. He's accused of being a guy who drives by and says, hey, you should take that car, and then drives away. And based on that, prosecution recommends eight hundred and twenty five years, and he gets sentenced to four hundred.
Yeah, that's correct. Four hundred was a compromise. The prosecutor asks for eight hundred and twenty five years. The defense attorney came back and said, well, forty years would be a sufficient sentence, that.
Would be an effective life term.
And the judge said, well, perhaps eight hundred and twenty five is too many years. I can only presume that he landed on four hundred because it's somewhere in the middle of forty and eight hundred and twenty five, and that's the sentence that Sydney got, four hundred years. And so I think a lot of people are thinking, well, why four hundred y eight hundred and twenty five. These
are just kind of arbitrary numbers. But really what it boils down to is, at that time in Florida, a life sentence would have made Sydney eligible for parole after twenty five years. A term of years sentence, a four hundred years sentence would mean that he would have to serve out that number of years and he was not eligible for parole. I know Sidney has said this multiple times, but only God can serve four hundred years, right, No man can serve four hundred years. So essentially that's the
workaround to make Sydney not eligible for parole. He would never get out of prison.
Did they ever before it even got to court, did they ever offer you some kind of a deal if you could give them the names of the two armed assailants?
They offered a deal. Well, why would I take a deal for something I haven't done. No, I'm not taking a deal because I haven't did anything I'm an anacent.
Man, and how can you name two people you have no eye idea, I.
Don't know who they are.
If I can just elaborate on At Sidney's sentencing after he was convicted, the prosecutor said to the judge at sentencing, and I'm looking at the quote right now, I would point out that this defendant was given the opportunity to carry the keys to the prison in his back pocket
because of the factual circumstances surrounding the robbery. And what he's referring to is precisely, Lauren, what you just said is that Sidney was given an opportunity to take a plea, to plead to a crime that he did not commit, in exchange for giving up the two other perpetrators. And of course, if you didn't commit a crime, how could
you possibly know who those other two perpetrators were. He maintained his innocence throughout and therefore he got punished when it came to sentencing with this very harsh sentence.
Sidney, you were in prison for thirty four years. Can you just take me to what your day to day was like?
Yeah, I spent a lot of time in life. They're trying to research, trying to find, you know, a way to become free, you know, get this charge of me something I didn't do. But in the meantime, why outside of that, I educated myself. I read a lot. I love to read. I educated my self computer skills. I got a social degree in theology. I learned coul their art skills, I learned counseling skills. I would drug abuse skills.
Day to day, I just kept myself busy, reading a lot, studying a lot always, you know, by you know, scriptures. I did a lot just to keep myself afloat. Giving up wasn't an option, and my parents and my family member, they weren't going to allow me to ever give up, you know, all the faith that we have. I was always going to fight until I stopped breathing.
And unfortunately it was a long fight, decades long. You filed appeals for post conviction relief several times and all were denied. What was the turning point.
Well, twenty seventeen, I would let's take write our application to the n Surprise of Florida. And you know they have a screening process. You know, they have to a lot of cases they have to go through. I also applied to the CRU and then between them and they collaborated with each other.
And that was the Broward County Conviction Review Unit, headed up by Assistant State Attorney Ariel dembie Berger Brandon. When you started working with the CRU on Sydney's case, what stood out to you? What were the biggest red flags.
In Sydney's case. Unfortunately, just like one read of the trial transcripts, they aren't very long, and there were all these holes, these things that didn't make sense. It's like, how did this person even become a suspect in the first place. It's not until you really dig into the police reports, the depositions, and the discovery that's kind of behind the scenes that the jury isn't always privy to. When you get down to the bottom of the facts.
In Sydney's case, the facts overwhelmingly speak of discrepancies rather than corroboration of guilt. And so when you see the specific facts in Sydney's case and how they just don't line up right, nothing added up. And that's not even taking into consideration Sidney's alibi. This crime happened on Father's Day and he was at a Father's Day gathering, that had many, many people that corroborated that either through trial testimony and or deposition testimony. No physical evidence, no other
corroborating witness identifications. All that the state had in this case was one eyewitness identification.
And as we talked about earlier, that eyewitness identification was obviously tainted. What did you learn when you dug deeper into that process.
We had two separate eyewitness identification experts and everything relevant to Sydney's identification, and they both identified double digit issues pertaining to the identification, both the victim's ability to perceive the event at the convenience store, but then also the way that the lineup was composed and administered by the police.
They came back with very similar reports citing very similar issues that have contributed to hundreds and hundreds of people being exonerated based on eyewitness identification evidence across the country. There was no identification of Sydney made by either of the victims in the first lineup, and so what's problematic in the second lineup where Sidney was identified by one of the two victims, is that Sidney was the only
person that's in both lineups. Because of the way that the lineup is composed this one photo visa via the other five sticks out to them and so it could be an in cater to them that police are signaling and drawing their attention into that photo, and in this case, that photo was Sydney's photo.
I thought it was really interesting to the during the reinvestigation that you interviewed Vincent Wright and Anicia Johnson, who were the original victims of this crime.
I think Miss Johnson and mister Ray were very forthcoming in the information that they provided to us. They were quite honestly astonished that Sidney, irrespective of whether he committed the crime, that he was still in prison for this, and we appreciated their willingness to speak to us and provide that kind of context to us to understand from their perspective what happened.
So on March ninth, twenty twenty three, the Innocence Project of Florida and the Conviction Review Unit presented all of their findings and filed emotion for post conviction relief. And then Sidney, while you were waiting for your hearing to come up, you get some really great news from television of all places.
Yeah, what happened was ab By eleven thirty, they came and told me the judge want to see me. So I kind of baffled. Why would I judge want to see me? I knew hearings on Thursday, but they took me downstairs to see the judge. But then they say eleven third was too early because the hearing is set for two o'clock. So they took me back to the cell and I went and laid down on Then I heard the guys shower. Hey, I think I see your picture on TV. So I'm saying, why have my pictures
on TV? Why? You know? I didn't even see it. It came out. It wasn't there. So I called my sister. Then when I called my sister, I asked what is going on? Then she just w was start crying on the phone, and then I went right to I was in Courtina at two o'clock to be released.
And so on March thirteenth, twenty twenty three, you walked out of prison a free man. What did that feel like?
Well, I don't know, I can't even know what to say. I was in tears, you know it. It was kind of a bittersweet because you know, my father wasn't there. You know, he died four years ago, so other than that, that was only a bittersweet part of it, you know, being released that he wasn't there to see this happen. No, I'm still really you know, it's only been thirty five days I've been home, so I'm still trying to grab to you know, it's still unbelievable. I am free after thirty.
Four years Brandon, as Sydney told us, he'd been working on his appeals for a long time without success before connecting with you and the cru What do you think was the magic ingredient this third time around?
Well, the magic ingredient, ironically, is the current state of the State Attorney's Office in Broward County. You have Ril Demie Berger and her staff at the Conviction Review Unit, and you have the elected State Attorney, Harold Pryor, who are truly seeking justice. I think that that is the difference. They have an open mind and they follow the evidence, and that's what they did in Sydney's case.
What's next for you, Sydney, what are your hopes and plans for the future.
Well, you know, I'm still working though things I always want, like I have culinary skills and the food truck is emin it that I you know, roughly one day that might happen. But you know, like I say, take capitally, take finance. You know, it's a process. So whatever, just try to keep brand opportunity to come.
Just take it and Brandon, I understand that under Florida law, Sydney is unfortunately not even eligible for compensation from the state because he had those prior convictions we talked about in the beginning of this episode.
That's what the state statute says. Is called the Clean Hands Provision as it it's now essentially says that if you have a prior felony conviction, you're not eligible for compensation in a subsequent wrongful conviction, matter how much time or whatever the circumstances are for that wrongful conviction. You know, the data says that if you have a prior conviction of any kind, you're fifty percent more likely to subsequently be convicted for a crime that you didn't commit in
a later case. There's a bill pending in the Florida legislature right now that would eradicate that requirement, if you will, and the Instence Project of Florida is working to fix that to make people like Sidney who have prior convictions eligible for compensation for the wrongful conviction cases.
Well, I understand that the IPF has started a go Fundme page for Sydney. We'll have a link to that on our bio page for our listeners who'd like to help Sydney get a new start. Who knows, maybe start up capital for that food truck. And now at the end of every podcast, we have what's called closing arguments, just your final thoughts, whatever you'd like to say to listeners. Brandon, why don't you start and then go to Sydney to close things out.
Wrongful convictions absolutely happen. It takes a lot of diligence to overturn them. It takes a lot of seeking the truth, seeking facts. And in Sydney's case, it was clear from the very beginning that he was innocent, what he told everyone all along, and the system got it wrong thirty four years ago. And there's no amount of effort, no amount of money, that can get him that time back with his family, with his daughter, with his mother and
father and sister. But the State Attorney's office in this case ultimately did the right thing. They ultimately pursued justice. They themselves sought the facts and the truth, and with a lot of diligence and hard work, they saw that Sydney was in fact telling the truth all along, that
he was innocent. And I really do commend the work that State Attorney's offices are doing across the country to realize when they got things wrong in the past, to take accountability for that, and to do whatever it takes to rectify the situation so that people like Sydney can come home to their families and live the rest of their life in freedom.
Well, like I say, I can't say it enough, that fantastic job. Like I say to say that you know the new current state attorney, it's entire staff mis Bergier and also Brandon Jeth Miller and the whole staff of the Innocent Project. But a close statement is that throughout this process, I will always tell the person you can never give up hope. It's always the chance. It's always a slim hope, a chance of anything in life that we does. It was a hard fault. I was twenty two,
But I'm not mad with the justice system. I can't be mad because you know that's something that's needed in our country. You know, it's if it weren't with justice system. But I think it's broken. But I think we're on the right track. That we got prosecuted throughout the country and justices throughout the country that they trying to make
changees other states that you got organizations, innercent projects. You know, they're doing a lot of hard work to try to reclify some of these things that's going on in our great state of Florida. It's so much that need to be done. But like I say, I'm just so grateful that I had the opportunity to be free. It was
a long road. My thing is to help help people to overcome the things that I went through, and I hope I can be some kind of light and I own it for them, for the youth as well, because it's needed in our country.
Thank you for listening to Wrongful Conviction. I'm your guest host, Lauren Bright Pacheco. I'd like to thank executive producers Jason Flahm and Kevin Wardis for inviting me to be here. Special thanks also to our wonderful production team Connor Hall, Annie Chelsea, Lyla Robinson, and Jeff Cliburn. The music in this production comes from three time OSCAR nominated composer Jay Ralph.
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