Since our previous release of Vincent simmons story, an amazing series of events has occurred. In addition to the work of his investigator as well as his attorney, Justin Bonus, CBS Morning's lead correspondent, David beg Now did his own investigation, and as part of that, he did an interview that aired in February twenty twenty two in which he spoke with the alleged victims in this case, Karen and Sharon Sanders,
who made some explosive revelations. And this re release, we will not only fill you in on the incredible developments in this case, but also you'll hear once again from the man himself, Vincent Simmons. In May of nineteen seventy seven, fourteen year old white twin sisters Karen and Sharon Sanders allegedly went to help their eighteen year old cousin, Keith Laboard,
clean his house in of Old Parish, Louisiana. Years later, Keith Laborde admitted to carrying on a sexual relationship with Karen Sanders, but back in May of seventy seven, when asked about a scratch on his neck, Keith began to spin a narrative supported by the twin girls that led in a well tread direction. According to Keith and the twins, they picked up a hitchhiking black man who allegedly pulled a gun and forced Keith and Karen into the trunk
before raping Sharon, followed by Karen. Conflicting accounts and descriptions, as well as a rape kit that confirmed that Sharon was still a virgin, didn't stop the accusation of an alleged black assailant. While police officer Robert la Board was out searching for a potential culprit on the morning of May ninety seven, his partner Floyd Juno spotted Vincent Simmons,
whom he knew from previous petty crimes. Despite not matching what we're already conflicting descriptions of this imaginary black man, they arrested Vincent for the alleged rapes. Both girls and Keith picked out the only handcuffed black man in the lineup, and when Vincent refused to confess, Officer Robert Laborde shot him in the chest. Miraculously, Vincent survived, but only to have all evidence, all of it exculpatory withheld from him at trial. Condemning him to serve one years and Angol
of prison. Vincent's fight against the web of family connections lies and the worst in American racism continues to this very day. This is wrongful conviction. Welcome back to wrongful conviction. I'm Jason Flam. Today's case is so troubling that I don't know where to start. But I will tell you this before we even get into it, and I introduced to you the man himself, Vincent Simmons, who's still incarcerated in Angola Penitentiary for over forty four years now for
a crime he had nothing to do with. I will tell you that this case has a toxic mixture of small town racism, false accusations, a total lack of evidence, a police officer who was closely related to what should have been the obvious suspect, who actually shot Mr. Simmons in the police station when he refused to confess in the chest by the way, narrowly missing his heart and killing him. Yes, you heard that correctly. And everybody involved basically is white except for Mr Simmonds is black. And
now that's just the freaking beginning. So first of all, Vincent, I'm so honored that you're here today to talk to us. I'm so sorry that you are where you are, that we're talking to you from prison, and I'm hoping that soon we'll be having a totally different conversation from the free world. So welcome to Wrongful Conviction. Thank you. We're very happy to have you, and we apologize to our audience in advance for the audio quality on Vincent's phone.
It sounds like he's calling us from a time capsule, and in many ways he really is. As Angola Penitentiary was built on a literal plant Asian, which couldn't put a finer point on what this case is all about. And joining us today as a man who you may be familiar with from our coverage of Nelson Cruz in Brooklyn and Marcus Wiggins in Chicago. Now today he's fighting for Vincent's case pro bono, flying back and forth from New York to Louisiana. So justin bonus, thanks for coming
back to Wrongful Conviction. Not a problem. Jason is great to be on here again as well. So this insane saga goes all the way back to ninety seven. So Vincent, before this happened and your life got turned upside down and inside out? What was your life like before this insanity? Yeah, I was bone in a ball par a place called Manilla, Louis yea when I would live it in man Still, I had had some involvement with sha I would involved
with compared to crime. I moved to Houston and I got a job and I learned that my father and I come back to do it. Yeah, I was backful about a month. I would live with my sister. I'll leave you and I was all my way to work and I was picked up of all terrish bodye. So you were a known entity to a bols Parish police before heading to Houston for work and returning when your father passed away, which made you available to be picked up for what allegedly happened to these twin girls on
May night, think seventy seven and the date. I mean, we're not even sure of that because the girls were never really clear on a date and time. But the narrative that comes out is a sadly familiar American tale, a false accusation of a black man by an alleged white victim or victims in this case, and the alleged crime that took place The narrative that set this horrible
and justice against Vincent in motion is this. On May nine, twin sisters Sharon and Karen Sanders allegedly went over to the house of their eighteen year old cousin, Keith la Board remember that last name, to help him clean, and while driving the sister's home that night, the three allegedly stopped for gas when Vincent Simmons allegedly approached and asked la Board for a ride home, to which la Board
supposedly agreed. And then the claim is that six miles outside of Marksville, on a deserted stretch of Little California Road, Vincent allegedly took out a gun, forced Keith la Board and Karen into the trunk while he allegedly raped Sharon, and then he allegedly put Sharon in the trunk, drove on for a bit before retrieving Karen to do the same to her. Now afterwards, Vincent allegedly threatened them all
before dropping him self off to catch a bus. So about two weeks after this alleged incident, May is when this narrative is first reported to the Sheriff's office and the investigation. If you can even call it that begins justin take us through this nightmare. So there was Karen Sanders, Sharon Sanders and then Keith la Board that were allegedly basically kidnapped, thrown in a trunk. The two sisters were raped.
That's their story. So on May John la Board, Keith's father calls the sheriff because Keith's father is the parish assessor. What you have to understand about the la Boards is there's like ten thousand of them in a vols parish. This is a very strong family. He calls the chief of police and he says that my twin nieces have been raped by a black man. That's how this begins. And then the girls are brought in. The girls don't know what date it happens. The police give them a date, okay.
The girls provide their initial statements, which weren't turned over at trial. Uh, they weren't turned over. They give completely inconsistent statements. Sharon Sanders actually calls the suspect the N word over and over again, says all blacks look alike, okay, and that's why she wouldn't be able to identify him. They don't talk to the boy. Keith Laboard until after Vincent has already arrested. Neither of these girls give a description that matches Vincent. They say short and fat, well,
Vincent is five nine. Again, their descriptions conflict. You know, it's just one thing after another. And specifically with regard to Karen Sanders, she talks about being raped anally orally vaginally. When the doctor looks at her after she talks to police, there is no injuries. Sharon talks about a thirty minute rape vaginally to the point where she bled. She said that she gave her panties to her grandmother and they
were washed, of course. And what's interesting about Sharon is that her hyman was intact when she was examined by the doctor in this case, So okay, inconsistent statements, conflicting descriptions, and outright lies unsupported by physical reality. And the next day at am on Vincent was just walking to work when he was picked up off the street, arrested and brought to the station. He was arrested on May twenty three,
nineteen seventy seven, on view for this crime. And what on view means is they didn't have a named Vincent Simmons, They had no probable cause to arrest him. They saw him on the side of the street. When I say they, you had mentioned a family member of one of the alleged victims, and that was Robert la Board. And I don't know his direct relation to Keith la Board, but
I believe it could be a cousin. So really, what you have to understand with Vincent is he had a history with the Marksville Police Department and the Vols Parish Sheriff's office. And Floyd Juneau was driving with Robert Labourd on the Dave Vincent got arrested on MA and he knew Vincent, he knew who he was before, and he knew he was a troublemaker. And he's the glue to this.
He's the person that basically points the finger at Vincent first, right, right, right, And if you have the chance to watch one of the documentaries about Vincent's story, there's the Farm and Shadows of a Doubt. We'll have them linked in the bio, of course, but in Shadows of a Doubt, Floyd Juneau describes this arrest in much the same way that Justin has.
So that same morning, the sheriff sent deputies for the twins who were picked up from school and brought to the station along with Keith Laboard who was brought from work, and told them that they were going to view a line up with the perpetrator in it. So officers picked out seven guys for the lineup, one of whom was white. Okay,
a few others were well over sick feet tall. But remember the description was of this imaginary perpetrator was black, short and fat, right, And they placed Vincent in the center. And get this, Vincent is the only one who was handcuffed out of all of them. I mean, it wasn't like they were trying to be subtle here right as to who they wanted them to identify. So the twins and Keith lo and Behold all select Vincent as the perpetrator.
They claimed that I would identify and from that point they took me into another room and that's when they told me that I had to give him a confession, and I refused to give a confession. I told him that before I confessed to a crime that I didn't do, I'll die for and that's when they hit me and they adopted to the plow and started kicking me. And then when I tried to get out, he kicked me again. And when I did, you to chat, I was sitting in to get up. Robert he see where he was
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only happens by design. I think something that I really want to bring to your attention here, Jason, is this is that technically Vincent really should have been charged with kidnapping Keith Labor. They didn't charge him with that. Why well, you know, I think we know why. The other thing is the police all said that Vincent attempted to grab the gun of one of the officers and the safety
was on or something like that ridiculous story. They don't ever charge Vincent with attempted murder of a police officer either. And this is weird, right, because it's not like the state typically has any issue at all with piling on charges. Right, But there were no gun charges here either, as that was part of the alleged kidnapping in this case as well. So at the preliminary hearing on July seven, both twins testified, but neither the alleged kidnapping victim Keith Laboard, nor the
alleged attempted murder victims the police officers participated. Yeah that's yeah, sure, Okay. So during her testimony, Sharon has asked three consecutive times to identify the man from the crime, and this is the twin who states that all black people look alike. She doesn't respond until the court steps in, and this was when, for the very first time ever, she says
that the man said his name was Simmons. Now, Karen also parroted this statement that the culprit told Keith his name was Simmons, but then in the same preliminary hearing, when asked why it took two weeks to come forward with this story, Karen testified that, quote, we couldn't go to the cops because we didn't know his name, unquote, So which one is it? Karen, right, which is it? Because both of those things can't be true. Everyone overlooked that.
That means that their testimony in the preliminary hearing that they knew the man's name, and their testimony at trial that they knew the man's name. It is false. That kind of just got glossed over. So let's get to the trial, and I'm gonna put trial in quotes here too. So there's no physical evidence that these rapes ever actually happened.
Start with that. No forensic tests were done on the twins, clothing, or the car in which the alleged rapes occurred, and police reports did not include a single lead appointed to Vincent. Doctors didn't find any sign of injury on either of the alleged victims, including Sharon's intact him, and she was a virgin who was, according to her statement, the victim of a bloody rape, which of course is physically impossible.
So if you're listening to this now and going, well, then there's all this evidence, right, How the hell could anyone, even a black man in the Deep South in the seventies, how could anyone get convicted on the basis of this. Well, it later comes out with Vincent and his attorney received exactly none of this. They received no discovery in this case, but not, I mean zero. What I'm saying is all of that critical exculpatory evidence that you just heard wasn't
revealed to him for another sixteen years. His lawyers never even knew about the shady lineup with the handcuffs, you know, which was obviously done for one reason, so that these alleged victims would know who to pick in this imaginary crime. There were pictures of that, the inconsistencies and conflicts in initial accounts and assailant descriptions and initial statements. They said they didn't know his name, but later testified that he
had told Keith his name was Simmons. How Karen gave a clue to that discrepancy in her preliminary hearing testimony, all of it. So the fix was in so justin, can you take us through what happened at this sham trial? So they take him to trial and the girls get on the witness stand and they say they know his name. They say a rape happened, and the defense attorneys don't do a great job of poking holes in there because they don't have anything to poke holes in. They don't
have any cross examination material. Okay, they have three witnesses that were allegedly with this man for three hours. That's a long time to be with somebody. Mistaken identification is not really something you can argue when you're around somebody for three hours unless you saw the initial statements, right, can't really do it. I mean, the trial's a joke. Eddie Nole, who was the prosecutor, and the district attorney and his wife are the ones that tried the case,
and this was a flim flam show. They actually, on occasion during direct examination they would interchange when they thought the other one didn't ask enough questions, or on cross examine. I've never seen that, and they probably could have done anything they wanted because without discovery, they had nothing with which to hold the prosecution or any of the witnesses accountable.
Then you have these racially charged elements, two white twin sisters underage, by the way, fourteen years old, a black guy in Louisiana in nine seven. So they could have said that he took them in a spaceship, hit them on the head with a toaster of it, and then they went and visited, you know, talking penguins on Mars. I mean, they could have said anything, and I could actually picture in my mind the jury just sort of sitting there, you know, horrified with their mouths open, hearing
about how the two young girls were brutalizing. You know, these these poor little girls. It's hard to turn away from that kind of testimony. But there were some very significant things that still should have sowed serious doubts in
the minds of these jurors. Now, I think the biggest thing here that we started to uncover as we investigated is that the area that Vincent allegedly sees these three at a gas station in the middle of Marksville, but then he takes them allegedly or tells them to go to a part of a Vols parish that's like Clan country. So where these alleged rapes happen is in the middle of Clan Country. It's not where the black community is. That's what to me should have raised alarm bells for everybody,
including the white jury. This is not believable. What was alleged to be a three hour long encounter with two twin underage white girls being raped by a black man in the middle of Clan country. I would have sooner bought into the story. Worry about Mars and Vincent was able to present something in his defense right. His attorney called him to the stand where he said that he was at a bar on May night and presented three alibi witnesses who all dated that he was at the
bar with them. His alibi witnesses, they tried to discredit these people with traffic tickets and like petty crimes because they wanted to make the alibis look like they were not law abiding citizens, even though they basically were. I mean, one of the witnesses that testified for Vincent was a business owner, and they attacked them using like speeding tickets and parking tickets that he received. It was a joke.
The trial was a joke. Yeah, it was a joke, but not not a funny one though, because eleven white people and one black woman on the jury. I remember at that time in Louisiana and all the way up till two thousand eighteen, they didn't need a unanimous verdict to convict. It was one of the ways that they disenfranchised black folks. You only needed ten of the twelve members on the jury to vote guilty. So black woman or not, let's just call it like it is. There
was no hope in hell for Vincent. And so there you are, still trying to heal from a gunshot wound to the chest at close range and watching this ridiculous trial. Did you still have any hope that they would see the discrepancies in this crazy narrative and see that you were innocent? Oh? Yeah, there was no hope because the way that was focused. Oh what the victims were saying, there was no hope of the receiving a sad trial. And even though I was shot, they that was there
was no questions answer what happened. So Vincent, at that moment, a lot had happened to you already. But I have to think this would be the worst moment of anybody's life to be wrongfully convicted of a crime they didn't commit. Do you remember that moment when they declared you guilty and sentenced you to a hundred years in prison. Yes, I did when I heard all those lives sold and
the jury come back and condicted me. Even with my alibi Richards telling the truth, the jury still believed their lies. And it was amazing for me to believe that those people would, Yeah, that kind of lied to the juror, and the jury believed there. When I got the golden and they claimed the doose hind me, it was like a shot to me. And from that moment then I would experience a nightmares at night when I went to sleep.
I tried to go to sleep, and I would have a nightmare as a being shot and beating over and over again. When I got there, even the guys in the town, they already knew what my charge was and I went to mulate experiences they so I bought all you ship human ways, you know you taught um. I've been called several times, you know all the skin come over my father, but I wouldn't report it because they would call your retire at several night nights, balls that
were from of all past. They would make it possible for they didn't make out a home you the gods heard um of all, Harry, they would intentively, well, I can repote where how would be the repetrator of the night. So from one lockdown to another, that's what caused me to be locked down. And it's solidaires confirmed. And all these years because I was being attacked and being transferred to another lotdown, I said, twenty seven years and solid confined.
And I just got out in uh two thousand nineteen, and that's when I got the call from Deston said, as you would take my case. Forty four years wrongfully convicted, and twenty seven of those were in solitary confronement because of constant assaults from other prisners who also found ways to believe the childish nonsensicalized that these three backwoods, redneck low lifes told to cover up their dirty, disgusting little
incests secret. And I don't even know what to say except that I'm absolutely amazed at your courage and your strength to persevere and just even be here at all, after all you've gone through, Vincent, you are a living miracle. So justin we know that the post conviction litigation started almost immediately back in eight and it went about as well as the trial did. But Vincent finally got a break of swords in can you talk us through that? Vincent files a man Damis, and somebody in the d
a's office copies the whole file. That's how Vincent gets his file. That's when he first gets the discovery. And then Vincent got a letter from his lawyer in ninety eight saying that we've never seen these documents before. You know, and by the way, that lawyer ninety eight, I think he was a judge by that point. I mean, these are credible people that came forward and said that they
had never seen these documents before. Right, this is the discovery with the details that we mentioned earlier that if Vincent's trial attorney would have had this at the trial in nineteen seventy seven, and of course it was totally illegal for them not to share it, but if they had had this discovery, it's very possible that even that jury could have come to the right conclusion. So, in
addition to that, more exculpatory evidence has developed over time. Meanwhile, Vincent is denied parole again and again and again and again. The sisters showed up at the parole hearings and said all sorts of awful racist things. I remember seeing this on the video and hearing about it in one occasion where one of the three members of the pro board was a black gentleman, and one of the sisters actually said in the parole hearing that she wouldn't feel safe
alone in the room with him. And I'm talking about the guy who was on the parole board, the black guy and the parole board. Am I actually right about that?
You are? You cannot make this up. So now we're all the way at October and justin you've now joined Vincent's team, and Vincent has applied for post conviction relief based on several to process violations and newly discovered evidence which shows that the alleged rape was a total fabrication, and that part of the new evidence that was presented is from a family member of the alleged victims themselves, right,
So can you tell us about that? Essentially, we have a family member of the law boards coming forward with a detailed statement about an admission that Keith gave her. I think it was in two thousand and eleven, two thousand twelve, and actually what happened forty four years ago was. She was there when Keith came into her mother's house
and he had a scratch on his neck. And it appears is that Keith is the first one that drops the story that gets and thrown in prison, which is that you know, he gave a black man a ride home with the girls and the black man scratched his neck, threw him in the trunk, and raped the two girls. See the problem with that, though, if you talk to this witness, she knows Keith Laboard. He's a total psycho.
Keith also, I believe I said two thousand eleven, two thousand and twelve, he admitted that there was no black man. We actually have Facebook messages between Keith Laborde's first cousin and Karen where Karen admitted that Keith Laboard raped her. Now you have to understand this same cousin, Keith Labord actually admitted that he had what he termed to be consensual sex with Karen and through Sharon in the trunk.
So that's why Sharon's hyman is attack because Key threw her in the trunk because she didn't want to have sex with him. But he definitely had sex with Karen. Now, Karen says that it was a rape. He says it was consensual sex. But at the time of the alleged sexual act, Keith was an adult, Karen was a minor. You know. Then we have an investigative report from our investigator who spoke to Karen where Karen said she might have made a mistake, that she doesn't want to testify
again in this case. Yeah, I think I need a shower. I mean, this is even worse than I originally thought, which I didn't think was possible. So where are we now? What in the world is it going to take to
bring Vincent home? Where are we right now? We filed the motion to vacate the conviction of post conviction relief motion in October of I mean, there's Affidavid's newly discovered evidence, there's scientific reports and here identification experts, doctors, obviously the previous discovery that wasn't turned over when the motion was
initially filed. Kerry Sproul was the judge that was overseeing the motion and Charles Riddle was the district attorney And essentially what happened is in more arch of one, I got my hands on a document where carry Sprul admitted that he represented keith La Board's daughter in a previous I don't know if it was a custody case or
a family court case. And so we had a hearing to recuse Carry Sproul, and in that hearing to recuse Carry Sproul, Carry Sprul not only admitted that he had represented keith La Board's daughter, but also that he had a close relationship with keith La Board since I guess almost childhood, and actually hired keith La Board to work on construction projects in his house. So he had a
longstanding relationship with keith La Board and his family. And then after that is when we had the motion to recuse the District Attorney's office where we took testimony from Vincent's trial attorney, Mike Kelly, where Mike Kelly testified at the hearing that the defense received no discovery, not a ingle document. They didn't know there was a lineup, they didn't know that there was original statements made, they didn't
know anything. We took testimony from a civil rights activist, Alan Holmes, who heard Charles Riddle admit that Mike Kelly didn't receive discovery, and then we took testimony from Charles Riddle himself, and Charles Riddle admitted that he believed Mike Kelly when Mike Kelly testified that they didn't have any of the discovery in this case. That caused Judge Bennett to recuse Charles Riddle because Charles Riddle refused to consent to give Vincent Simmons a new trial. Essentially that Riddle
was basically condoning a constitutional violation. Right he knew that there was a violation and refused to remedy it. And a prosecutor has a duty to act fair and impartial, and his duties are based upon the Constitution. He has to be fair to the accused, and when there's a due process violation like there is in this case, the only way he can remedy that is by giving Vincent another trial, and he refused to do it. We now have an Attorney General's Office that's taken over there trying
to vacate the recusal of Charles Riddle. They're basically trying to delay this as best as they can. No one wants to give Vincent any relief here, and that's where we are right now. We're in front of the Supreme Court battling it out over the motion to recuse the district attorney, and I'm in the process of filing something to try to compel the court to do the right thing here. After our release, Justin went to work on just that, and back in January twenty two, I got
a call from Angola. It was Vincent thanking me and everyone here at the Wrungful Conviction podcast, and I didn't know what he was thanking us for. It turns out that at some point between the original release in November one and that January, Justin had won him a hearing set for February two, in which his motion for some re judgment was to be decided. Either the judge would rule against him or he'd be granted a new trial, at which point the prosecutor would have to decide whether
or not to go forward with this case. Knowing what we know now, and Vincent had faith that this would finally set him free. Now I'm ecstatic to report that he was correct. Vincent, Welcome back to Wrongful Conviction. Thank you man, you are so welcome. You know words will never do justice to this mixture of joy and anger that I feel about your case. But right now I'd like to focus on that magical moment when you were set free. You know, I saw a footage of it.
I wanted to be there in person, but I couldn't. And I know that you knew it was coming, but there was a look of shock and surprise on your face. Yes, even though I had this vision when did manifesting, man, I was a shock free So you know, I knew that based on the evidence that they had den and look at the evidence that they have now, they had nothing, did nothing but the lines and then Boom thought it. Four year later the family come forward and Boom revealed
new evidence or what they had died all these years. Yeah, I mean not only that cousin who had come forward talking about Keith Laboard, all of those damning messages that we had already discussed on the podcast. Not to mention that there was no discovery at all in this case. Let me say it again, there was no discovery at all. Nothing was turned over to the defense and all of the things that could have been turned over and should
have been turned over in discovery or exculpatory. Then the two alleged victims accusers in your case, Sharon and Karen Sanders, went on CBS and had no good answers to explain the wild inconsistencies and their statements, among others, to explain the inconsistency about when they knew your name and that they had actually known it all along. They had said that they had made a pack to not say your name,
which is total horseshit. After they had identified you in the lineup, they still didn't know your name in those statements either, which totally contradicted themselves. Again, they also admitted to the racist comments that one of the sisters had said, quote unquote, all n words look alike. And how could they even have identified you anyway if that was the case, right, I mean, there's another direct contradiction there, and let alone that you didn't even fit their bogus description that they
had made up out of thin air. This case is madness. And in addition, Karen Sanders also admitted to a sexual relationship with Keith la Board starting as early as nine years old. Man, I mean I was watching that My my job. I hit the floor. You were simply dragged into their web of sadness and lies, with neither probable cause nor having fit any description other than just being a black man. Your case is about as disgusting as
any we've ever heard. So with all of this floating in the zeitgeist, along with the mountain of Brady material, the judge finally set you free after over forty four years in prison, and you were reunited with your family. Can you take us back to that night? Where'd you go? What did you do? Well? I was taken all by my family and Mr Bonus to a restaurant, you know, a real expensive restaurant, and I'm looking about wow, you know, and you asked me what I wanted to eat. I
say everything, everything, that's great, I will eat everything. So you know, we had lovely billo. We talked, we laugh we joked. That moment is very special. It's very special. You know, that chills, you know, travel to your body, all of love and arts and kisses and all that. It brought a warmth to me, that something special that was missing when you're coming out of somewhere where you've been kidnapped and held against your will for further for
a year. I value that, you know. You know, it's hard because I got to relearn everything, you know, but it doesn't it doesn't stop us from thinking, you know, it doesn't stop us from living and it doesn't stop me from doing the right things too, to freedom minds, you know, to show them that, you know, we we
have to value ourselves, you know you have. You can't love somebody if you don't value who you are, if you don't love yourself, you know, and you come first, and then you know you show compassionate love to others. You know, this is what our join us are, you know, our do this for being here on it, you know, is to get people to understand God law. Hey man, get them laws in your man. You know what I'm saying.
Whatever God, you believe that. You know, everyone have a duty to each other as humanity, you know, but yet refighting each other. Why I'm here to deliver that message. I'm gonna fight it. I'm gonna fight it. I'm not gonna go alone. You know, I'm not gonna be all. I'm not gonna turn a blind eye to the truth. And that's what I'm fighting for. I have a big family that I live beyond black and white. I'm fighting for us. What we do? What are we here for justice?
You know, we're here to correct That's what Joe Jabby is your report? What's going on? You know to the public, to the people. I love you man. We love you too, Vincent. And you know, all I can do is to continue to shine a light on these injustices and helped to be part of the team that works to correct them wherever and whenever I have the power to do so. And without you sharing your story, well we wouldn't be
able to do that here. So I'd like to just thank you for on behalf of everyone that works on a team, for joining us and sharing your story. And then I'm gonna turn to the closing of our show where I turned my microphone off, leave my headphones on, kick back in my chair, and just listen to any final passages that you have. You know, I'm I'm I'm gonna give it to the people. How I learned it. I learned it hardly. You know, I'm gonna give it to anybody. Roa Yah is the only week I'm fighting
for the people. We're trying to fix a system that is broken based on racism. Don't say that racism because it do and everybody don't want to deal with it. Why not? You know they judge is in prosecutor using the sheeld of the state to do criminal activity. Is you make all kind of laws saying that you know, we're against this and we're against that, but you ain't passion them. They don't have a law by the constitution
that say that the prosecutor. I can leave my employers to intimidate other people to say what I want them just saying, and if they don't say it, then I'm gonna send them in the prison. I'm apprenticed them. No, who are you? You're human luck, I am you representative people and when you miss you your authorities, you're supposed to be pitialized by the people that goes for judges, lawyers, das, whoever you may be. You're a human and you supporter
a humanly use your powers wisely. Thank you for listening to Wrongful Conviction. I'd like to thank our production team Connor Hall, Justin Golden, Jeff Claverne, and Kevin Wardis. With research by Lila Robinson. The music in this production was supplied by three time OSCAR nominated composer Jay Ralph. Be sure to follow us on Instagram at Wrongful Conviction, on Facebook at Wrongful Conviction podcast, and on Twitter at wrong Conviction, as well as at Lava for Good on all three platforms.
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