Wrestlemania Weekend

Sunday three Pacific, six eastern. Hello, everybody, that's sweet shirt. I'm celebrating WrestleMania Weekend with a floral pattern because it is, in fact WrestleMania Weekend. And you know, I've given the speech many times I ain't going down there and getting that building twice this weekend. Too much work, too much hassle, not doing it. However, boy, have I gotten all sorts of reports from everything else going on down there in Houston, and I got FOMO big time. Holy smokes. I wish

I was there. So I am telling you here by stating that next year I will go to WrestleMania Weekend. But I'm not sure if I'm gonna go to the actual WrestleMania, but man, there have been so many great matches and so much great craziness, matches you never expected

to see. And there's more coming up tonight, this this Ring of Honors, Supercard of Honor, there's gonna be a lot of big surprises on the show, and pretty much as I expected, a Ring of Honor, Tony Cown's Ring of Honor is going to be utilizing a lot of people that aren't on TV right now for for a w so it's actually believed another return of Chavo member. When Chavo complained that he was he was released and nobody bothered to tell him right am, I can't remember

what it was. And then it turns out he was on a pur show deal and and left, and then I guess I don't know what he was mad about. But anyway, he's gonna be working for Supercard of Honor tonight. He's uh, he's cornering Bandido and uh Toty Blanchard is going to be working the Supercard of Honor show and presumably he's going to be managing a team and there's

a big surprise plan for the end of the show. So, you know, a lot of people have been very uh you know, I don't know what the word is, uh down on the idea of a Ring of Honor being operated as a separate promotion, and quite frankly, I mean all evidence points to this being an upward battle. Bro. It hasn't even happened yet, so I think we should give it some time, and if it's not working, we can talk about how it's not working. But there's a

lot of stuff coming up tonight on the show. I think it's gonna be fun, so we'll talk about that, WrestleMania, n x T, everything else that's going on. Back in a moment Observer Live. Back in the show, Bright albur is here Wrestling Observer Alive except for Viv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. And just when we started, look over the chat and someone's talking about the old staying that the apron is the hardest part of the ring, which

of course is is what they say. But I was thinking about it, and actually the apron is not the hardest part of the ring. First off, the hardest part of the ring would be the ring post. That's a much harder part of the ring A and number two. Uh. In terms of of hardness, the apron is exactly as hard as the middle of the ring. The difference is the aprons let's give. But I guess it's it's not as impressive to say that the apron is the part of the ring with the least amount of gives. Actually

also isn't true because that's also the post. Why don't they just say it's the most dangerous part of the ring? It's not. The post is no whit hold on time out. Why don't they just say that though? Because you don't see move moves all the time getting moved, you know, used off the post, but you do see them getting

done all the time off of the apron. And the chance that somebody slips and falls through the floor, the fact that you know there's an edge to the apron that you don't have in the middle of the ring that somebody in theory could fall against, hit their face against, bust them wide open. You could make a case and call it like the most dangerous part of the ring,

and it would make a lot more sense. But it would be a bad case, Mike, because the the padded part of the ring actually goes down so so that edge that you're talking about, the edge is not exposed unless you're in some real horrible ring. But people, what if you are standing on the post? What if you were standing on the post because you're gonna do a dive from the post and I split your legs and you crotch the top of that skinny ring post. That's

more dangerous than the apron. That's it's more more painful. And sure, yeah, that's why I started the show with today. Everybody, Yeah, what what only Anderson here? Just stop doing everything? Bill Watts. Put the move the pads off of the floors again. Nobody doesn't do anything off the top rope or anything on the apron. Leave the wrestling inside the ring. That's what the Blackpool Combat Club with mont al Right, Well, here's uh, here's the news, everybody. Um, here's some stuff

happening this weekend. Hello, It's WrestleMania weekend, everybody, And here's

here's what's going on. We got WrestleMania Night one, Becky Bianca, Ray and Dominic versus MS and Logan, Paul Drew versus Happy Corbin, Whosos versus Shinsk Nakamura, and Rick Bigs The New Day versus Shamus and Ridge Holland with Butch seth Rawlins versus Cody Rhodes, Charlotte Flair, Charlotte Flair versus ron Da Rousey, and then of course for well, you know, keep in mind everybody, Yes, it's gonna be Cody Rhodes, but this you know, you guys remember that that WrestleMania

where Randy Orton faced the Fiend and uh, you know, the did all of these angles and storylines with Randy Orton the Fiend, and you know, Randy Orton like burned

his house down or whatever. I can't remember who was this story because Randy Orton's burned down like nine houses, but anyway, it was totally set up for the Fiend to beat Randy Orton in a WrestleMania and uh, the day of the show comes and uh like right before the show, ing up the year, Vinca decieted, Hey, Randy's going over ur Ko even though they've done an angle like a week earlier on TV. Or Randy Orton hits him with an ARKO and the Fiend didn't sell it,

so that was part of the build. Randy Orton hit the RKO and the Fiend didn't sell it, so then they go to Wrestleman. He has one RKO and the Fiends of dead Body and he pins him. So anyway, he got hit in the face with a fireball and was healed two weeks later. Okay, I mean, well, the point is it's stupid to no sell it on Monday and then it's a finishing move on Saturday or the

whole everything they did with that was stupid. But he one thing that has not been stupid, although maybe it has been stupid, but I found it to be entertaining has been Seth Rollins going through different pictures on his Twitter over who the opponent maybe right down to Marco Stunt being one of those people. Well you know Marco Stunt is you know he's out, so they could you could see him flossen after Seth comes out. So anyway,

it's gonna happen, is is uh? You know, Vince has been building up this Mania card, building up this Mania card, building up this Mania card. He's got this tunnel vision and so Saturday is gonna come. He's gonna sit up, He's gonna go wait a second April end of this month is WrestleMania Backlash m hm, we can't have. We gotta save something for that show, and he'll go down the card and change like nine finishes and nothing will

make any sense. But we'll have we'll have, you know, lineups for the for the next show anyway, Night Oh, Night one Charlotte Ronda, and then Night Too is Lena Carmelo versus Sasha, Naomi versus Rhein Live versus Natty and Shana, Johnny Knoxville, Sammy Zane, Pat mcafoss and Theory rk bro versus The Street Profits and montez Ford or Angelo and Monte and the Alpha Academy. Then we got Edge versus A. J. Lashly versus Omas. Maybe Lashly can be managed by Holly.

And then we got brock Listener versus Roman Reigns to unify the titles in the Morning, which I'm told is actually ten am Pacific. Like that's gonna make a difference to me. We got Toxic Attraction versus Raquel and Dakota for the women's titles on the pre show, Carmelo versus Santos versus Solo Skoa, Grayson Waller Cameron Grimes multiperson Ladder match for the North American title, Tamasa Chompa, Tony D'Angelo

and Tamasa Chomps Last match. We got Mandy Rose, Cora, jade EO Sharai and Kaylee Ray for the Women's title. Imperium versus The Creeds and ms K for the tag titles. L A Nights versus Gunter and Dolph Ziggler will be facing on Breaker and don't forget tonight. We have got to the Ring of Honor Supercard of Honor Show promoted booked by Tony Khan, Jonathan Gresham versus Ben Dido with Chavo Jr. That is going to be a winner takes

all champion versus Champion unification match. The man who never lost a title to Covid versus Uh the current champion. We've got the Briscos versus FTR for the tag titles, Swerves Trickling versus Alex Zane, j Lethal versus Lee Moriarty, Josh Woods versus Wheeler Utah for the pier title. Mercedes Marte Tinez and Willow Nightingale for the interim Women's title.

Ninja Mack and Tolly Blanchard's Whoever It's gonna be, It's a mystery, opponent for Ninja Mack Tolly's gonna manage this person and Rhet Titus versus Minoru Suzuki for the television title. So uh yeah, a lot of these champions are happy because before Tony bought it, like pretty much all these titles are just gonna be discontinued. They weren't gonna be

used anymore. But now Tony has taken over, so like Red's got his belt back and Josh Woods is a champion again, So I'm sure they're very happy about all that. So there you go. We'll see if they are after tonight. You know, Wheel are uns He's still the im BTV champion. I could see him defeating Josh Woods taking that pure title now, Brian Maltz, you know, taking that title, bringing that thing over to the Blackpool Combat Club or or wanting to bring it over to them. I think that

would be a fantastic idea. And one thing is for sure. Over the last couple of years on indies, you know, a couple of guys have had monster years and they usually have great weekends WrestleMania Weekend and Utah and Lee Moriarty and Daniel Garcia. Over the last couple of years have been guys who have really broken out and they've gotten their flowers and they're just desserts at the end. As all three of those guys are on a w

t v UM speedball. Mike Bailey, as soon as he was clear to come back to the United States, people were really looking forward to what his schedule could be like. And he has already had a monster here this year in the first quarter, and he had a match yesterday against Bandido that looks like it's the front rudner for depending on what you thought of some of the blood

sports stuff. It's the front runner for a match of the weekend so far, and they want the five thousand dollar bonus that they had at the Mark Hitchcock Show last night. So he's probably going to continue to go on and have one hell of a weekend. And he's probably somebody that may not be a big name to some of the people listening, but he's somebody you want

you might want to keep your eye on. All right, if you want Texas here today zero seven five six six, that is seven eight zero seven five six six days gonna join us after the break, Big ab Meltzer will talk about the new Observer and WrestleMania Weekend and all that kind of good stuff. And then, uh I got more news when we come back later, including an interview with with Randyworton, and I want to talk about back in the moments, over life, back in the show. Bran

Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mikeber Viv also Wrestling Observer dot com. Dame Melts are joining us, and uh, I want to get into a new edition of the Observer newsletter. And obviously it's WrestleMania Weekend, and the top story here is Triple H and his heart issue, which is noted here in the new Observer. Now that he's got the the defibrillator inside him, I mean, all goes well, fingers crossed. He should be able to live a normal

life for quite a while decades. It says here in the Observers that right, yeah, ball goes well, Yeah, yeah, he's the problem was his heart. It will stop his heart from beating irregular um. But he does have a heart condition, so it's not like he's out of the water completely. But yeah, if he avoids uh you know, avoids stress and eats, right, which I'm sure he will do,

he should do well. Um, you know, but the idea of wrestling again is out of the question though, as as he said, so, there have been rumors that he's going to be around this weekend, that we may see he's around, he's there, but a public appearance. Um, I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised to see him show up at at you know, be introduced at Mania, you know. I mean he was running the he's one of the people running the tryouts this week, you know

that we're going on. And so he's around, Yeah, he was. He that a lot of the talents on for the first time yesterday. So yeah, so is he is he? I know they've used the term he's back. Obviously he's not going to be wrestling, but even I would think that even the former triple aged schedule is not a schedule that would behove you know, his health. So so he's back, presumably in like a a a limited capacity. Um, I don't want to I don't really have to know

the answer to that. I mean, he's been back. His his job is now involved more in the scouting side of things, you know, tryouts, things like that, as far as like running an xtigue in Um, you know, I would doubt it, but I can't say that percent. I mean as far as running you know this this secession plan in w W, as far as the wrestling side, if if something happens to Vince, you know, and he was going to be the guy, um, I can't imagine. I mean, he may try it, but it probably wouldn't

be the best for him to do that. Uh, And he may not, you know, I don't say it wouldn't be interested in doing. And I'm sure he'd be interested in doing it, but I don't know if it would

be smart for him to be doing something like that. So, I mean, his stamina is lower, which is what he said, and other people who have had the same condition, I've told me, you know the same thing, that your stammin is lower, But you can live a normal life and you can work an eight to five job, and and you know he'll do He's working a job there already, and um, I'm sure that that. I'm sure he'll keep a job there for as long as he wants to. I Mean the thing with him is is you know,

he's got no economic issues. He can quit tomorrow. He's set um, but he does you know he loves wrestling and I don't think he wants walk away from it either. Dave, how does this change if at all the plan post events? Um?

You know, could he serve more as a liaison while you know, Stephanie may back off of some of her duties that she does in the business realm and and be more of the day to day or is it just really going to be Stephanie is not going to be the person you know, running Creative or anything like that. Stephanie's role is going to be a chief end officer. If it wasn't, then triple ah too. I guess all of us kind of assuming, right, Yeah, honestly, like who,

who in the world really is it? Nick con Well, stop, it definitely won't be Ni con Um, Shawn Michaels, Adam Pierce. I mean, we start asking questions like that on who it's it's it's it's a tough one. Um, you know, right now, right now Paul Hayman, which would be bizarre right now, right now would be Prichard. Paul Hayman would be difficult, but not impossible. But yeah, as far as grooming people, you know, the whole thing is they groomed paul Vec and you know that wouldn't be a good

fit right now. And Paula lost a lot of points with the n X with the n X c a w fight anyway. Um so um, but they it's not like that there's this replacement right there waiting. Um. I can't see Bruce Pritchard. I mean, this guy's in the sixties, Bruce, and and he said and Bruces had multiple heart attacks. Um and UM, I don't see Sean as being the person for that role. Uh you know, plus the plus I don't I don't know that Sean wants to to vote because that is there right now inside the company?

Is there a person there? Would they dare look outside a company that's always been so closed like that? Would they dare look outside? Um? You know then the problem is is that wrestling hasn't created guys like that that have that and um, they haven't trained guys like that. But I would think that it would be someone. Um, you know, we could look at the agent staff or whatever, but I think would be someone. I don't think they would look outside because because you know, as you know,

they don't consider experience outside to be meaningful. Because if it's not in w W, it doesn't count. So I don't think that they would. I mean, you know, would you know, like if Eric Bischof hadn't so spectacularly flopped the last time, it could have been him easily, because that's what they would look for, someone who has experience in that. And you've got Eric Bischoff or Jerry Jarrett and Jerry will be you know, Jerry's older than Vince, so um, you know, and and I can't see in

a second him taken on a twenty hour day job. Um, Bruce, it wouldn't be good for but it could be. It could end up with him. I mean, there's not a lot of guys, there's not a long list of guys, but that way I was, you know, I was wondering to myself. You know, Hunter was such a avid bodybuilder. You know, this whole change obviously, you know, you have your life threatened, you know, you're gonna probably think differently.

But he's such a competitive guy. The thought of him working an eight to five job is just something that always it's tough for me to actually believe, like hidden sitting at a desk and doing that. Is there a way?

I guess always depending on where he's at physically, that you could have And I know this is gonna harken back to a dreaded time with booking committees, which could you have the writers and have Bruce and bring back a Gabe and have people where he could be at the end of the person to either rubber stamp something or make tweaks and changes. Or is he too competitive to be able to sit by and let them do something and then him not give it his all Vince like to say no, this is what I would do

and to change things, you know what I mean? Could he actually back off and be that person just to go, okay, let's do a check mark on what what the booker is doing. That's a really good question and I don't have a good answer to it, because the one thing is is as he gets more and more comfortable and further away, he is going to slowly revert back to being the person he was before unless he catches himself

and goes, no, I will not do this. So I could see if he has no let's say he has no um, you know, bad escapades in the next year, slowly would he revert back to that, especially if something happens to vince. Um, but it would it's probably not advisable. I guess it's the best way to put it, um. But you know, it depends on you know, a couple of things. Number one, you know, um, I think the ages of his kids, Like if it's in ten years, it's a lot different and if it was now, um,

And I think, Uh. The other thing is is what what his outlook on life itself is. As you get older, you get very very very different outlooks on life and and um, you know, some people, as they get older, the wrestling becomes less important, even for the ones who were immersed in it. I mean, I know people who were immersed immersed immersing and wrestling and now when they're you know, in their sixties. Put it this way, they

don't even care about it. So you know, in ten years, will he be that person or will he be or do does wrestling completely define him as a person? And if it does, you know, which is like let's say Rick Flair, which is a bad example, but a good example in what I'm saying, in the sense that there's no other way and he's gonna want to keep doing it no matter what, even at the expense of risking his health. And I don't, I don't know, I don't. I think I know he's a smart guy. I know

that personally he's a smart guy. But where his mind will be in in and and body will be in ten years, it's it's we don't have those answers. Anything new with the WrestleMania coming up tomorrow, I mean nothing, really, I mean it's it's here, and uh, I'm really intrigued on how they're gonna. You know what I'm intrigued by this year, more than more than almost any other year, is news out Let's afterwards like acting like that there's an eighty thousand people at the two shows, you know

what I mean? Because it's like I I presume that they're going to exaggerate the number of the most in history, and and it will be an obvious exaggeration. But I think that, you know, I've I've already seen like, you know, people talking about a hundred thousand people at both nights, and it's just like, dude, they're they're barely at half that sold. Right now, you're telling me that they're below sold,

they are below fifty sold. They probably they will probably, they will probably end up a little bit above that, but that's that's that's gonna be where they're gonna end up. Yeah, you know this for them, this though, is going to end up trying to come across in the mainstream. This is probably gonna be their most successful WrestleMania of all time because of all these celebrities in the way that they are going to pitch this. All of us wrestling fans are looking at this going this is the worst

built WrestleMania of all time. I don't think that. I think I think that they've done a great job with built WrestleMania. I think it's been one of the softest. I mean, for sure, I think it's been one of the more lacklustree, even though we've had some really cool things. I mean, I think it's potentially strong. I actually think it's been stronger than the last couple of years. Um, certainly the last two or three. I think the last two or three weren't good at didn't have good builds

at all. Going back six seven years, yeah, there's they've been stronger ones then, But I mean, this is one of the strongest built main events they've had. But as far as the rest of the show. It feels Um yeah, I I don't made for the main street, It's made for Sports Center. That's what it feels like. Um, well that's there. That's what there, that's nikon. That's what their businesses is now. Their business is made for the aura of w W E and selling that to people. Just

like the freaking peacock deal. It's not about what numbers you're doing. It's about the the idea of you have w W and where a major brand like NASCAR and uh, you know, we can make deals. And that's what w W is about, is keeping that name and that keeping that name in the forefront and in that sense. Um, they're gonna get a lot of publicity coming out of this, you know, um uh and some of its celebrities. Um, but you know yeah, I mean that's that's what they're

there for. So I think last year or when when did they do uh an extra twenty thousand above the actual number? Are they above the actual number in the last time they were in Dallas? And I've presumed that this year they will exaggerate that number of far more than twenty. When you have one night, you exaggerate twenty so you don't add the two nights together and add twenty. You had twenty the first night and twenty the second night, so you're gonna add forty. They're gonna say that there's

one hundred and sixty thousand people both nights. That's what they're gonna say. It'll be interesting. Yeah about that? Well, Dave, I want to thank you too much for doing the show here today the new observers had. Everybody can grab it at Wrestling Observer dot com. Your subscription gets you not only the weekly Observer, but our whole Observer archive, and of course a paper copies peel Box one two to eight, Campbell, California, zero zero nine. Back in the

up with more Observer Live back at the show. Bran Elber is here Wrestling Observer Alive. Mike SIMPERBB also Wrestling Observer dot com. What's something, Mike? What? Well? Should I read these exact tenants numbers here? Because now now you can no longer even play the semantic game? Oh yeah, what is that? Because why? Because Dave Meltzer is reporting something? Oh now, Dave was unreliable source because he's paid by Tony Cohn. And let me guess when these numbers aren't right?

Let me guess plans change? Is that what's gonna happen at press time? The first the first night of WrestleMania, just under fifty three thousand paid, it says here. And the second night the number just under fifty two. So they've done fifty three and fifty two for the two nights after I said they were gonna do fifty five, and I was ridiculed and mocked, chastised month after month,

and now here we are. These the final numbers were well, I mean, they'll sell some tickets in the next couple of days, but you think, up, what do you think? This is a Santo match? Hey, once again they run you know, Houston or Dallas or San Antonio, and they have to a on Ramo Stereo Jr. And they don't have any ideas for a mask match, and they have no ideas for a Latin American superstar. And just once again, here we go with that one next year in l

A probably will be the same way. Humberto I guess remember him, you know him, and you remember that huh that should have been in That should have been prediction. I could have got two rings. I'm still going to reward myself for this one. I don't need to wait. I like I hate by the way, I like how

the worm has turned. You're dealing with a bunch of sick kids and now all of a sudden, boy, you know, that trip out to a sunny, warm place to enjoy the weekend with a bunch of people that will idolize me and throw money at me doesn't sound too bad, now, does it all? And throw money at me? By the way, that reminds me. I'm doing wrestle Mania weekend cameos. I know. I know a lot of you listening right now. We're gonna get together with all your buddies to watch WrestleMania.

It would be better than during one of the video packages that go an insufferable amount of time. I will do a cameo for you guys, and you can you know, you can actually do multiple cameos, Like every time there's a video package, I could do a cameo talking about some match or whatever. But yes, F four w online on cameo. Get your WrestleMania weekend cameo requests in now so I can make sure to get him done in

time for the big show. Yeah, I would not suggest ordering a cameo every time they have one of those, you know, insufferably long segments, because you'll be broke. It's like a drinking game, you know. Every time Brian brags about himself during one of those cameos, you take a shot and you'll be drunk, Like second break about myself unless I need to bury somebody else. Really, Hey, what are you hosting regularly? Do you write any books? Actually?

I think those people know what titles? Do you think there's anybody out there who got a Brian Alvarez uh call for somebody that didn't know what they were getting, like somebody's mother is now getting and you have to run down your list of accolades, all the books you've written, all the shows that you host, that's needed well. To be honest, my presumption with many of these cameos is that the recipient has no idea who I am, So

I make sure that I explain it. Now. Listen, I gotta read this because this ties into yesterday and Randy Orton was a guest on Thursday's Pat McAfee show and talked about difficulties working with wrestlers from n x T his program with Bray White and Edges return Or noted that edges return has been refreshing for him because many of today's performers are not as focused on protecting their opponent. There's an art to what we do, and a lot

of guys have lost that art. Randy Orton's said when Vince wzz On, he talked about your number one prior above all being protecting your opponent. That's not taught necessarily in an x T. I know that because I've been in the ring with guys that came from n x T and they don't know what the f they are doing. It's unfortunate, but that is just how things are changing. He spoke about working with Edge allowing him to tell a story in the ring. I can trust this guy.

I can give this guy my body in this ring and tell this story, and I don't have to in the back of my head worry about him only being concerned with looking cool in that ring and hitting the f out of me and taking my head off. Edge made me realize that I can go forty five minutes with a guy who knows what the f they're doing. What are these other guys? Where are these other guys that know what the f they're doing? He spoke about his program with Bray White member. We talked about that earlier.

He described it, quote as a little odd. There were some issues where he was able to do a lot of stuff in the ring for a while, so he he there were some sort of health issues. I don't know what the details, but that that was one of things here. So that got weird. But Bray is a hell of an effing talent. A lot of f words in this. Granny better not listening to this interview. For the last year I've been out there with Riddle. He's only been wrestling for six years, but he just gets it.

He knows how to sell. He captivates these people, He captivates me. Randy Jordan's said, you know, I don't want to be that old guy yelling at at the clouds and everything like that. But Bro, it's funny, is that is Randy word is absolutely percent correct. That is what this used to be. It used to be that this was a show and you pretended to hurt each other, and there was an art to pretending that you hurt

each other but not actually hurting each other. And Bro, I don't know when that changed, but I have heard and I'm sure that many other people listening to this who might be in the business have heard of the same thing that uh in in developmental these these wrestlers are encouraged to lay it in. They are encouraged to lay it And I remember the first time I heard that, and I just thought, Man, I'm too old for this.

I'm out. And luckily, you know, I came back for matches with like the Rock and Roll Express, who don't lay it in. But holy smokes, even you know who actually was light as a feather hate to kill his gimmick, Nick Gauge like I was awesome, and obviously the Rock and Roll Express rawsom and and uh, you know, luckily Marco was small. Can't hear me that hard? But I boind of this is That's what these used to be about.

It was an art to pretend that you were hurting the other guy, but actually you didn't hurt the other guy. How many times do you think you hear that phrase from w W E guys today? Oh, so and so is a night off. Probably most of them don't even know what that phrase is. A night off. It used to be you would work all the time. Him and certain guys were a night off. They never touched you. You never knew they were there. You guys worked together. What I think it's called working because you're in there

hammering stuff, hammering nails. No, you were working together. That was the point. He didn't touch each other on a lock up. He didn't touch each other on a headlock. I know. Back in the old days they grinded the ears like that's you have cauliflower ears. But that's because they wanted to convince you that it was real. When you actually worked, you didn't touch the guy. So anyway, I feel for poor Randy Jorgon because he's in there, he's out there, and he's a great worker, and he

would just love to do it the old way. He can't do it the old way anymore. Now you gotta do it the new way. And that sucks for a guy that liked it the old way. Whatever. And I don't want, I don't want anyone to tell me that, oh, it looks better when you lay it in. It looks better when you lay it in. If the guys suck. If they suck and they don't lay it in, and it looks horrible, so they have to lay it in

to make it look good. That's because they suck. If they're good, they don't have to lay it in and it looks good. It should be like a badge of honor to be light. That's why they had the light handshakememberen Kevin Nash is like, no more light handshakes. We shake hands like a man. Remember that. Well, there was a reason that you did the light handshake. That was part of the badge of honor. You were light workers. Then all of a sudden, it's grabbed his hand as

hard as we can. I remember, I'd work with Buddy. We do tag matches. Bro never tag him too hard. He'd just leave. He would jump off the apron and leap if you just tagged him too hard, because even the tag is supposed to be at work. Whatever, Who cares, I'm out, I'm not kidding. I used to have long hair, so we do the spot where like he pulled me down by the hair. This brother wouldn't even touch your hair.

He'd make a fist and he put his hand on the back of your head, pretending he was pulling hair, but he wasn't actually even touching your hair. And he put his hand there and you'd bump and never and go oh, what a horrible man. He pulled the hair. He never even touched my hair the way he used to be done. Going to the turn buckle. Why does somebody have to grab the back of your head by your scalp and bang your head into the turn buckle.

Supposed to just put your hand there. And no, I don't know, star like kidding, apology, that's the exact opposite of what I've been talking about. What are you talking about? You think some of these kids only come up though, get so many mixed messages from so many people, because there's so many people just talk and talk and talking and think about it. Brian, you came up in the

old school. But the thing is your old school. There's old school guys who were there teaching you were old and crusty, who are bitching about you and your generation. Nobody ever complained about me. Well there's other one time. I don't look. We may be having two different conversations here, But I think that there may also be a lot of people get mixed messages because kids they're coming up to peu double dollar sign. Why you know what I mean? And you get people they gotta lay it and you

need to learn and pay their dues. You need to do this, you need to do that. Then you get other people screen them and at him, and it's like, you know, a lot of it is probably where you come up, the area you come up, the first couple of training schools you go to, you know, and how people do things. Some people get Hindu squatted to death. They look back and go with the hell, I didn't need that, and then other people go, no, I absolutely

needed that. Every kid needs to go through that, and every kid needs to get stretched and all this other stuff. It's like a lot of people just get a lot of mixed messages and then they just talk goes the night and my kid used to lay it in. Yeah, people hated him. Yeah it's fun when you watch him on a videotape, but when you were in the ring with him, it wasn't fun. That's mcfoley's front teeth, he smokes.

I remember I went up to train with Lance before I had a match with a long long time ago, this is probably a decade ago, and we got his ring and everything like that, and uh, I did the arm drag and then I put him in the armbar on the mat and there's an actual armbar on the mat where you like hyper extend the guy's arm that way. And I put him in this thing and I didn't touch him, okay, but he still yelled at me. He goes, don't do it the shoot way, and he showed me

the worked way. And his point was, yeah, you didn't put it on tight, but if something went wrong, you'd hurt my arm if you do the fake if you if you do uh, the real version, even if you're light. So he showed me the fake version, or even if you mess it up, you can't hurt his arm. I was like, wow, my mind was blown on that one. And as you know, it takes a lot from my mind to be blown. How many times to rip rogers blow your mind? He just swore a lot. Pat McAfee

on display there. Do you think he's gonna win that Pat McAfee and Austin theory, Yeah, I would think you'd be Austin theory with Vince making an appearance, but you never know when this company, I don't know. I mean

I would presume listen elements. One thing that's abundantly clear, okay, whether you all see it or not, And I would bet most of you don't Vince sees this guy is like a John Cena, this Austin theory, and there's reason he's grooming him and he's always there in his segments and like that's that's when he sees in this guy. And so you know, maybe he wants to teach this guy that you also have to be able to lose. So you know, Pat mcafeel get the win and it's

wrestle made you make people happy or whatever. But I I would presume Ustin theory as witty. I think I think Alpha Academy wins. You stick Gable Stevenson Willam, and on Monday night you have Ready Willing and Gable and then they can argue over who's Gable and who's ready and willing back in a moment. Observer Live like the show. Bran Elbert is here wrestling Observer Live like simb bb

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