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Welcome back to the second segment of the show. And indeed, I believe we do have Brian Alvarez with us. Brian, can you confirm.

I can confirm I'm here for the moment.

Look at that we have a special guest, Curtly in a dispute with Elon Musk, so he may disappear at some point during anytime, but happy to have him while we can, especially after such a packed weekend. You know, usually I look at the lineups and I go, Okay, there's no pay per view this weekend. I'm gonna have time to relax, time to spend outside of wrestling, and then as soon as Friday gets going, it never ends. I spent the whole weekend and this morning watching wrestling.

So you watch you watch Triple A this morning.

I watched the entire show. Oh, I thought it was the best thing I saw this weekend. I don't think you're gonna disagree with that.

No, Yeah, this was the best show that I've seen in a long time. And the best part about it is my favorite match was the match that I kind of was looking forward to the most, but for completely different reasons. I thought the Wyatts and the Psycho Circus was gonna be the worst match of twenty twenty five. I thought it's just in time for the Awards these guys are gonna go out there, it's gonna be an atrocity instead. It was my favorite match on this show.

Tom, Hey, I agree with you, and there was a lot that I liked on this show. I mean, hey, as long as we're talking about it, we might as well just get right into this show and we'll cover the other stuff later because kind of the injury news, the big injury news of the weekend is coming out of this show, which happened in the main event to Dominic Mysterio suffered a shoulder injury. I don't believe it's been diagnosed yet, but you could see him favoring it

You know, I gotta make one com here. I was actually in the wrong chat. I thought it was in Twitch, but I'm actually in YouTube, which is never It's never a good thing. And this fella here goes I refuse to watch Triple A. I have dignity. Let me tell you something, everybody, let me tell you something. In twenty twenty five, there are so many great wrestlers all over the world. This isn't like you know, when we grew up.

Yeah, they all delivered, And the one that you thought was gonna be bad delivered more than the rest of them. But like I mentioned, in the main event, there was an injury to Dominic Mysterios. El Grande Americano and Dominic Mysterio the new Gringos Locos taking on the team of Ray Mysterio and Ray Fennix, and this was a great match. Ray Mysterio turned back the clock. He has looked fantastic in the last couple appearances. He kind of just popped up on Raw and he's back in the main event

Fifty one years old, coming off a torn groin that kept him out for like eight months, and Ray's back looking awesome.

Yeah, he got he got the hot tag and he looked awesome. As you said. They did a spot where Dominic was going for the three amigos and on the third one he held Ray up and Ray came down and countered it with like a spiking DDT and that's where Dominic looked like you just spiked himself on the shoulder taking the bump. The match kept going on. Finnix locked an octopus on Grande and the ropes Ray hit

Yeah, they've loved El Grande Americano like he's a heel, but they love him, and so I think they just figured, well, may as well just go babyface with this guy. So, but Los riot Los Americanos, Ryan Bravo, they're still heels. But I think El Grande's gone gun full babyface.

Speaking of Los Americanos, they were in the opener, which was an all action match from start to finish, double teams, quadruples, team spots, just insane stuff throughout. It was mister Iguana and Nino Nino Ambergasa, which that's a team I would love to wrestle alongside you, Brian, mistery Guana and Nino and Jusa. They took on the LWO Los Americanos Areo and Bravo and Laparka and Octagon Junior all action. As

Including including the special Laparca guest sitting there in the front row with his young child. Canelo Alvarez was in the show dressed like Laparca and uh, I don't know if the announcmers reclue in because they completely flipped their lids when when Canelo unmasked and the fans went crazy because he's from Guadalajari's like a local hero and he's just like a you know, a he's a legend, legend,

This was.

Oh boy. We could get into that later if you want as well. We had a I can't I he adell Doctor Wagner Junior, I believe taking on Ethan Page. These two went right after each other. They've been feuding back and forth between NXT Triple A for months now. Eventually, Paige put a wrench in his trunks, but he grabbed the title belt. The referee Toronts, took the belt from him. Page hit Wagner in the stomach with the wrench and pinned him with the tights to win the title from

Yeah, you know, I realize they got to change some things, and I'm not really a fan of the heel ref gimmick anyway, but I gotta say pretty disappointed that Illejo de Torontes is just like a normal babyface for right now, after all those years of him and his father being the diabolical heels, it would do nothing but screw the baby faces right and left. Now he's just a guy.

Say he should have he should have not cared at all about this, and.

I shouldn't have happen. You know, you're gonna let some lizard tell you what to do.

The next match. I'm actually gonna skip over because we're running up on short time here, and I think that that Psycho Circus and Wyatt's match the Leaves deserves a more time. So we had Laredo Kid defend the Triple A Cruiserweight title against Javon Evans and Jack cart Wheel. Holly smokes about three minutes in JBL is like I've seen twenty moves I've never seen before, and that did not stop. Eventually, Laredo Kid retained the title with a

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Wrestling Observer Live back with you on the air Filthy Tom Lawler along with his sidekick Brian Alvarez. We were talking about the triple A Guerreris d Tetana.

Show, Gara, Are you sure, yes, I'm positive.

Okay, But we had not gotten to the most important match of that show of the century.

This should have been on Netflix on Friday night instead of that logan that.

Well, you know what in that fight, the logan Paul uh Jake Paul Anthony Joshua fight. I we did indeed get exactly what we were going to get, what we were presented. We were not sold a false bill of goods. No, this match. Actually, I think we were sold a false Bill of Goods because I did not expect this. I did not expect what we got out of the WYAT six against the Psycho Circus. I was so confused going into this because earlier in the week they had announced this was for the WWE Tag titles.

Oh they did. They changed it.

They did, and they had all the guys listed they.

Had Okay, so I wasn't crazy.

No, they they they had announced that, and they had all all eight guys on the poster, and I was like, is this going to be for the belts or two of each team gonna battle it out?

Well, yeah, they've They've done this a few times because at the last at the last Saturday Nights Made event, the Javon Leon Slater match was originally gonna be for the tag team titles, and then for some reason they just changed it. And then here I thought it was a tag team match. I thought it was gonna be like Psycho Clown and Pagano against Joe Gacy and Loomis Dexter Loomis. But then all all of these guys came out and so we actually got to see on a show promoted by w W and TKO Murder Clown on

Oh boy did they ever? This was right up my alley. Like the Psycho Circus doesn't show up for the match, and Wyatt Six are so angry. They stormed to the back where the Psycho Circus has this elaborate funhouse setup. Like the Wyatt Six are even They are kind of like destrang They're trying to figure out what is going on here. They're in the back. Psycho clown lures them into an attack in a ball pit, and then it just brings down. Mascarita Segrata pops up. He's attacking the

This all this set up, I don't even know any power bombed him off of he was just on something and Pecana went really far down and then they were like, well, that's it for that guy. He ain't coming back. He's dead.

They're selling it that that is the end of the hardcore legend. Pegano Pogano is now being billed as the hardcore legend, and why why not? Then Joe Gacy gets kissed by the exotico Pipinella Escarlatta, which you want to talk about seeing something on a TKO promoted show in twenty twenty five. This seems out of place, but hey, we got Pimpy still showing up. She kisses Joe Gasey and then the action goes to the ring side as they brawl down the ramp. The Wyatts isolated the leader

Oh yeah, you think I love saying it.

How could somebody possibly encapsulate that? That is? That's like a lot to put on somebody, you know what I mean, that's a lot of pressure. You're a clown and you're a murderer. Clown. This guy like, is murder clown.

That's not even my favorite. You've got Pagano's whose gimmick is he's a pagan, hence Pegano. You've got. You've got murder clown, who's a murderer, the murder clown. You've got psycho clown whose psycho he rips his own face off. And then of course you've got Dave, Dave the clown. Dave, Yeah, perhaps was sew a fat and he did a dive in this match. Everybody did a dive.

Murder didn't dive off the post to the door. I couldn't believe Dave the clown doing that topey and then murder clown scales to the top and dives onto everybody on the floor. Tom he didn't.

Everybody rose, only one.

Die cut that guy off the top, murder clown. He's like, I don't know how tall he is. Can you look up the stats on this guy? Is he like six feet tall a seven ft wide?

I doubt he's all that tall. He just looks tall because everyone else is short.

He didn't look too short in there with the Vintnor, but he looked like he may have been. He had more with than ever row ahead height Uh Pegano runs down, he makes his comeback, wipes out the Wyatts with the kendo sticks. That's murder.

Murder, by the way, is the big fat one not not not Dave, Dave's Dave's husky.

But he should have been doing a tope ay conhilo through the second rope or whatever he did. Psycho Clown then proceeded to rip off his own face. Loomis no sould it and tried to cut him off, but that didn't work. Psycho Clown lifted him up, put him through a table, and pinned him. This was awesome, what an act. This is the best the Wyats have ever looked. This is probably the best the Psycho Circus has ever looked.

Oh I've never seen a better match.

But like, all they're gonna do is bring this to the states, bring this few to the states. Right now they're doing uh the Wyatts and the MFTs, but let's be real, come on, the MFTs they have their own aura, but they are not the Psycho Circus. We need to get the Psycho Circus in there in that SmackDown multiman division. Can you imagine Psycho Circus against Phraxium and the MotorCity machine Guns or Psycho Circus, the m Psycho Circus versus the Vision.

No. I only want to see the Psycho Circus against other teams that are horrible and then like it's like reverse synergy. You take two horrible teams and you put them together and they magically have an incredible match. I gave this a billion stars, and after after two days of thinking about it, I would not change that.

Love it. You may have gone too low.

Loved this match. I had more fun watching that match than I had watching that Javon three way, which was a legitimate which was a legitimate four and a half star match. Easy.

Yeah, that was That was a great match they did. They did so much stuff of that match that I had never seen before.

Oh my god, this guy here the YouTube chat has redeemed themselves. Stu here said, how about the Clowns against Dark States?

Oh please please give it to us. Yes, that is exactly what.

I that's I'm looking forward to.

I don't want that, I need it.

Come on the butt Guy against Murder Clown.

Anyways, Los Toxicis took on an Italian Lulla Ice and Fabi Apachi. This was good too.

Uh.

Fabia a Pachi won the match with a Dragon suplex on Lahedra and her team got the win. Dragon Lee took on Elvi Kingo and uh the crowd hates Elvi Kingo. Man, Well, it may have been a bad finish if if you don't like the guy that came out, because a lot of people were huge, huge fans of the huge, huge man that gave Vikingo the win, and that was Oh Moss, the man who won.

The big not even want dude. It was just like, God, what a bad finish. He just comes out and there's a ref bump and then a guy hits his move and there's no rep I mean, it was like straight out of nineteen eighty five, just the most generic run in ref bump and then poor Dragon Lee gets hit with that uh whatever that is this the Actually he went for the six thirty, but he actually hit a four to fifty and then Omas has to go get the referee and so like he took so long that

Well, he did get low blowed and then hit with legitimate This is the biggest last ride that's ever been done on planet Earth. Like he lifted him up. It was like one of those rides where you shoot up real fast and then shoot back down. That's exactly what Omas did killed dragonly, So I don't have too much problem with him staying down. But Dorio and Rodan then came out and revealed he is the one behind Vikingo

This was this was I thought this was like one of those old NXT payd pviews, you know, back when Triple H was booking and it was just like five fantastic matches. This was This was like that, but also wild matches that you would not have seen on an old NXT show. This was like that.

That.

That Psycho Circus match was like a UFC one fight. Loved it.

All right, We'll be back with more after the break.

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Wrestling Observer Live back here with Filthy Tom Lawler and Brian Alvarez on the penn ultimate segment of the show. So far, we have pretty much only covered the triple A. Guerra's Guerra's Guera's a local Mexican native, Yeah, Mexican heritage.

Half Mexican.

Okay, there we go. Luckily we have you here to correct me. Yes, a little bit of news that we could get into here and some some lineups ahead of Christmas week before we get into uh collision and SmackDown.

How about the fact that Dynamite this Wednesday is another extended show two and a half hours on Wednesday, is it now? Yeah? He can't help himself.

Look at that. We are gonna get two and a half hour filled with Ricochet versus Bandido for the Dynamite Diamond Ring by virtue of being the two last men standing in last week's qualification Dynamite Diamond Ring Battle Royal, we will have Pac versus Jack Perry. In the Continental Classic Gold League, Kenoski Takesha, the IWGP Heavyweight Champion, will take on Orange Cassidy and the Continental Classic Gold League as well, and Roger Strong will take on Mascara Derada

You know, I realized this is the Continental Classic season, and I do like Continental Classic season at the end of the year. You know, this is the time of year where there's compared to everything else. Not a lot going on, even though there is a lot going on every day. But I think that next year he needs to figure out a way to not have the final, the semifinals, like the most important matches taking place on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, because my guess is these shows are going to die.

The semi finals matches are not on Christmas. Even Christmas Day matches are a world's end.

The last two are of the pay per view, but like the important matches to determine, like who is number one in the block, who is number two? What are the matches going to be on pay per view? These are the biggest matches in the tournament, and they're taking place on the two least watch shows of the year pretty much every year.

And I've read the spoilers, and this is a case in which, like I'm more intrigued after finding out the four participants in the semi finals than I am, you know otherwise. So it's like this is this would be a perfect opportunity to get more more eyes on these shows. But yeah, it's gonna be tough tough to draw on those on Christmas even Christmas Day. A little bit of news in the world of New Japan. We have Andra de Ledelo being revealed as the new business backer of

Well, everyone's been asking and I don't know. But Tony Kahan did a call today, one of his usual media calls, and he was asked about on raw DA and his answer was the usual answer, which is stay tuned a W dynamite. So he didn't really have an answer, but it's obviously, Uh, he's working Puerto Rico, he's working House of Glory, and now he's working New Japan. So I would suspect. I mean, this is obviously the case. They're allowing him to work outside of the US. I don't

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Stagan to deliver presence without Rudolph. These are serious questions.

Yeah, And in his second last match, Tanahashi defeated kose Fujita with two high fly flows ahead of his main event in front of fifty thousand fans against Kazuchika Okada at the Tokyo Dome.

Who's gonna win this match?

Tom Okada? I think so, I do believe so, yes, Yeah.

Jeremy Finestone sent me the stats on Tanahashi and with the exception of he did a job for utoh Ice and I think he did one other job as well, But other than that, through like the entire World Tag League, all of his other matches he's had, he has only done two jobs where he has actually took in the pinfall in the last two months, long before Okada was even announced as his opponent. So this is not like a John Cena thing where he's like putting people over

He actively put no one over but himself. Yes, it's like Japan and Noah, the idea companies that beat their aces.

Yes, so like the idea that he can't win or like they don't do this or whatever. Dude, that's what New Japan does when guys are on the way out, is they win. So I would not be the least bit surprised if you won that last match.

Well, let's get into uh I disagree, but let's get to a few of the highlights from the shows this weekend. Was there anything that stood out to you from SmackDown? Besides of course whatever Ilia dragonof did with Carmelo Hayes against diy.

That was the most nothing happened in show, just like nothing happened on it. It was like it was like a holiday show, like we show up, we do some stuff. If it felt like remember when it sucked when it was three hours long.

And then yeah, and then it's about to be three hours long.

Well, and then it moved back to two hours and it and we thought it was gonna immediately be better, but it still sucked for like a few months, and then for like two months it got kind of pretty good. The last two months or so, well, now it's starting to suck again. So I think they're getting ready for that three hours. I think they're gonna bring up some people from NXT, but my god, this show is just nothing happened on this show.

No, I mean, Damian Priest and Alistair Black are still feuding.

They're still fler.

Black laid Damian Priest out after they did an opening segment in front of the crowd. The Kabooki Warriors looked like total losers against Naya Jackson Lash Legend. They got beat up, they lost. They are the tag champions. Yeah, that's they were pinned. They were pinned and thrown away

I watched that match, I watched the aftermath, I listened to the commentators, I watched the interviews before and after, and it was all of a sudden At one point, I just realized, oh my god, the Kabuki Warriors are the tag team champions, like they lost this match, and the announcers did not even make a mention of the fact that they just beat the tag team champions. They didn't mention they.

Should be, didn't make a big enough kill about it.

No, it was like nothing. It was just like another match on the show, and like, apparently the Kabuki Warriors are babyfaces. Now I missed that babyface turn, but I mean Oscar did a total babyface comeback. Hyrie's working babyface and Peril. I mean it was weird, dude, Like every match on the show was heel versus heel, except now the heels were like babyfaces.

Well, Elli, you're dragging off at Carmelo Hayes or baby faces.

Okay, that was the one.

Yeah, but they are kind of feuding because they're well they are they are feuding.

They are few and their two baby faces feuding with each other. And then we had two women's matches that were healed versus heel, and then the main event. I think the Wyats are actually supposed to be heels.

No, the Wyatts are babyfaces? Are you sure?

Because we start remember we were watching this show and they were like cutting promos on baby faces and healed promos, and we were like, I think they're actually heels.

No, I think they're their heels in Triple Are it doesn't matter. And actually after that last match, their baby Faces and Triple A if you ask me, too so. But they defended the tag titles against jac Matteo and Tongala and it had the dirt worst finish ever, made me so angry. They just all started brawling. Everybody got involved and they just brawled. They brawled forever. The brawling was good, the finish to the match was horrific. And that that was SmackDown. Well, no, that was not SmackDown

Well, this was revenge for when Drew McIntyre broke into his bus or whatever. Which either way, did we miss an episode of SmackDown, because they keep talking about how Drew broke into Cody's bus or whatever. I don't remember seeing this anywhere.

Yeah, yeah, he missed a show. He broke into his bus and beat him up and left him laying But you would be hard remiss to remember it because Cody was back later in the show beating Drew up. That's when he laid him out and cut the promo on top of the table. That was awesome. I think I might where he said war Games was his birthright. Yeah, I may have been a fantastic promo. And we had aw Collision.

Which imagine that being your birthright war Games.

I mean mine is like shoeing horses, So I mean maybe I'd take war Games. Uh, Collision. I thought Collision was great too because it was only an hour.

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't think it was a great show. I thought it was a kind of above average. But I wasn't blown away by either of the Cunninal Classic matches I thought.

I thought Kevin Knight and Kazutrica Ocada was good, but it was a bizarre match.

Yeah, because o'cada was like doing the most lazy I mean, Kyle Lee.

They just went fifty to fifty and then Kevin Knight kept countering the rain Maker. Okada hit to catch it as wheel barrow German, which they didn't really even talk about on commentary, but he hit that right before he went to the rain Maker and then was countered and pinned by Kevin Knight in the biggest win of his life.

Uh.

And yeah, like Speedball and jungle Jack, Perry was good, but the crowd liked both guys that it just never hit second gear. You know, the crowd was into the moves, but just.

Because everybody was waiting for Speedball to make a comeback, and he just kept getting cut off and cut off and cut off and cut off and cut and then he was pinned.

Yeah, Eddie Kingston squashed Nathan Cruz. And actually, what I thought was the best thing on the show was Mercedes Manet defending the Undisputed RevPro Women's title against Alex Windsor, and they wed kind of like fifty to fifty. They traded submission holds. Windsor hit a blue thunder bomb off

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Back here on Wrestling Observer Live for the final segment of the show. So sad to be leaving you guys only after an hour here with you today, But we must move on a little bit of clarification there right when we went to commercial. Producer Dom gave me a little heads up there as I was talking about Mercedes Monette losing her titles. Dom, are you there? Can you tell the people what you told me? I am yeah.

You said she lost another one of her belts, and I corrected you. She lost one title, but two belts.

One title but two belts of course, the undisputed rev Pro Woman's title and I believe the Queen of Southside Wrestling title. Those two are one championship represented by two belts which now are in possession of Alex Windsor So. As I said, you know, coming to a close today, we must move on. But before we get to the show tomorrow, there will be Monday Night Raw taking place tonight. This was filmed recorded taped last Friday along with SmackDown, which I believe was live, and then they will be

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