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Wrestle Kingdom Night 2/NXT New Years Evil Recap/AEW on TBS

Jan 07, 202241 min
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Bryan recaps Wrestle Kingdom Night 2 and NXT 2.0 New Years Evil. AEW debuts on TBS and the guys discuss a ton of matches.

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Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready, let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez here on or Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day Monday through Friday, a New Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific, six Eastern. Well, it's Wednesday here on the show, and it is also January five, and you know that means night too of Russell Kingdom is in the books.

And what did you think of the show? I have not seen everything yet, not gonna lie, but I have seen the most important matches on both shows. I have actually shouldn't say the most important matches because I've not seen the Stardom match yet. But I have seen the Tanahashi kent To match for the i w g P United States Heavyweight title in a no d Q match. I've seen Okada versus will Ospray to unify the titles.

And yes, I went back yesterday and I watched Evil versus Tomo hero Is she E. So I got a lot to talk about from these two shows, and obviously news coming out of the shows as well. Yesterday was also n x T two point oh their New Year's Evil Show, which was not as good as what I've seen on the Tokyo Dome. Run Breakers, your new NXC champion beat Tamasa Champa. They had a very very good main event, and I got reports of the show. It was like, not very good at all except for the

main event, and I thought it was fine. Uh, there were some problems, but Riddle and ms Caver s Imperium, I mean that was really good, and Carmelo and Roderick Strong was good. Anyway, we can talk about that. We also got a lot of other news. Tonight is the a W debut, Dynamite moves to TBS. We have got Hangman page Brian Danielson two for the a W World title with judges. If it happens to go sixty minutes.

I'll tell you about that and all of the other matches on the show because there are a lot of them. The Young Bucks and Bran and Cutler off the show due to COVID and COVID exposure. I'll give you an update on that and uh. Also in terms of COVID, Callisto did an Instagram post where he he basically said he got COVID nineteen over the summer and almost killed him. So we can tell you about that and a lot of other news. But when we come back from the break,

we're gonna talk about the top story today. What is the top story you ask? Well, yesterday everybody was asking was the She Evil actually worse than a J and Omas? I will answer that question for you after the breakups over live back of the show. Brian Albert is here wrestling observer Alive. Mike simper Viv also a wrestling observer at dot com. Well, as I promised, top story today, is it possible for is she to have a bad match? Was a She versus Evil on Night one of the

tokyot Home worse then a J versus Omas on Raw? Well, now that I've seen both matches, I have answered to all of these questions everyone. First off, the answer is yes,

she can be in a bad match. Now would I say that she can have a bad match, Well, that's a little bit different because if you actually watched the match for the first I don't know, four minutes before anybody got involved, I mean, it actually was good because he she is great, But then and everybody got involved and uh, the match sucked, okay, but the match sucked because the booking sucked and the run ins and the interference, and she lost. So he's no longer than ever open

Way champion. Evil is so like from that perspective, I mean, it's sucked. It's just horrible, okay. But if you are gonna come on the chat or call me or text me or whatever, and you're gonna try and tell me the straight face that the match was worse than a j and Omas, you know that tells me you didn't see a j and Omas. That match, that wrestling match

was far worse than Evil. And as she now, I'm not defending Evil, and she sucks, and we gotta get rid of this bullet club or House of Pain or whatever there is gimmick is now it sucks, you know. You know how I know something sucks when they're doing a match and you've got a beloved baby face like a she, and as she gets taken to the ropes and some fellow named Dick Togo takes a steel chair and he whacks a She in the back, and there's death. Lee's silence in the Tokyo Dome. There was no booing.

There was no gasping, deathly, deadly silence in the Tokyo Dome. That's when you know the don't work no more. And it wasn't even the match that they usually do or everybody in her fears and they do all this stuff, and you know, Evil has been hitting people with this gimmick all through the tour, and so you think he's gonna hit the guy with the gimmick at the Tokyo Dome.

But then the guy's gonna kick out and beat him and he'll get his handheld high with his Nope, they beat him, beat a she So yeah, it absolutely sucked everybody, but almost Omas and a j much worse, much worse. Now, I got two things I want to talk about because I've only seen two matches from the from night too of the Dome show. The first match I saw was Tanahashi and Kenta. Okay, God bless these two guys. They had a nod Q match, and so there were trash cans,

there were chairs, there were tables, and there was a ladder. Okay, Now, if you are an American and you use American ladders, you know how a ladder works. Well, it shut and then you open it up and it's got this thing across it that prevents it from like going like this and you fall down and die. Okay, that's a that's a ladder. You just open it up. It's done. This ladder that they had, I was was it opens but

it will just keep going like this. There was no thing in the middle because you have to open it, and then there are four count them four, there's four like hanging gimmicks. Then you have to attach from one side of the ladder to the other. Do this match was Let me see how long the match was. The match was twenty two minutes and forty seconds. Okay, a full twenty minutes of this match was Kanta trying to put this almost in a bad word. I forgot what

show was on. Kent is trying to put this stupid ladder together, and like he's shouting profanities in Japanese and the audience is laughing. He's trying to put this stupid ladder together. I have never seen, I asked, sort of. I don't think I've ever seen in my life a hardcore match where more of the match was spent trying to put the stuff together. They're trying to open this

table and the table, the legs won't stay open. They're trying open this stupid ladder, Oh my god, and they're taking these bumps onto these chairs and it's just a total garbage match with two great workers. And then Kenton decides, let me come to the top of this ladder and do some spot. Well, he gets stop the ladder and tan Ash. She jumps off this table and Tanashi tries to tip over this this ladder, but the ladder is like literally it's like two ft tall, literally two hunter

feet tall. So he's trying to tip it. It's it's all wobbling everything like that, and finally kent it just like he falls. He does like a stomach first bump off this ladder and he hits his face on the side of a trash can and he just comes up. He's just pouring blood everywhere for this stupid spot. Then Tanashi puts him on this table and tana Hashi at forty something years old, and he's he's like forty years

old and his knees are shot. He climbs up to this like way up high on this ladder and he does a high fly flow off the ladder and he puts Kenter to this table and I'm like, brother, why there's like thirty people in the Tokyo Dome this year? You just about and Chris Charlton's begging him not to do it. He's like, he'll he'll never be the same again, but he doesn't. He puts him to the table and he wins. And I mean it was a spectacle, like if you're in his spectacles, I mean you got one.

Oh my god, what were these two guys doing doing all this stuff? I was just sad watching it. And then O'Connor willis bringing the main event was awesome And the only thing I'll say is two fantastic athletes, two great workers. They had a great match, and this place it sounds like it sounded like they were wrestling. You ever seeing those old National Geographic shows, were like some explorer goes like there's some cavern, you know, three ft

below the north pole. And I'm surprising I didn't wear those helmets with a light on top when they did this match. This crowd is just it's silent, and the stuff is just echoing off the walls of this empty building, and it just felt like I was watching a dying promotion, which is not by the way, but because it's two nights in the Dome and you know, there's it's just sad watching it. But it's a match. It was a great match, but it's just a match where you watch it.

It was great, but like people were going, was this better than the Shingo match? And I was like, I'm not sure, because like both of them were great, but you don't have the crowd going crazy and they're going knuts and popping. I mean, the crowd silent and they do the spot where they throw a forearm and the crowds like they're chopping there. They're they're clapping for each of the strikes or whatever. But other than that, it's it's just, uh, can we I don't even know. It's

not their fault, but just sad. But anyway, great match, great main event. Which thing, Mike, how was the Okan match? How's O'Kon and Sonata a technical masterpiece? I missed it. I'm trying not to do any callbacks to yesterday at all, but let me before that, let me just ask you, why are you sad for? Why are you sad for? Why? I can understand why you're sad about the crowd because of the code. There's nobody there. They're not allowed to cheer there. They have to sit there quietly during these

these Maine events. Uh are you sad about Tamahashi in Kenta though? Why are you sad? Because they're too great to be to be killing themselves like this. Well, yeah, they're too great to be killing themselves in a horrible match where they have to be construction workers and putting

the ladder together. I'm sure Kenton when he signed his contract, like one of the clauses was you will put ladder together in hardcore matches and he's like, I don't even know my wrench, dude, did it not take forever to put this stuff together? Like his comedy? You didn't see the stardom uh match with the ladders um with the finals of the the treos that they had with that

with that ladder on it. They Yeah, some of the ladders and tables when he comes to Japan, they maybe they need to import some because I'm not sure if the blood that was still left splattered across the table after Tanahashi put Kenta through it came from Kenta's face or the fact that maybe it was from his back because the way he went through that table. I mean, the Japanese tables are of course famous for not being able to break very easy. They mentioned he was scarred

for life from going theysolutely smashed through it. Yeah, and they mentioned that because they mentioned that about Tona Haji, because as you mentioned, Chris just kept saying over and over, yeah, you could win the title, but you're not gonna be able to have any defenses because you won't be able to walk after that dive. And he barely could. I mean, man, they worked hard about sad being the word I use, though it's certainly not sad. It was. I was kind

of sad watching it. It was just and we'll talk more about this show after the break. We had a lot to get into stick around him her light. We saw the boys strike Noboddy, No, the bank, don't compete. Next, Oh this ladder. Yeah, Kenne is trying to set up this ladder and he just can't do it, and so he asks Red Shoes, the referee, for help, but she's like,

it's on you, brother, not helping. So poor Kenda takes an hour to set up this ladder and then and you know, you guys don't know this because the way they shoot it in w W you see it every now and then, but when they have the super high ladders in w W E, they usually have like at least two referees out there holding the ladder to make sure it doesn't tip over. Canada's on like tana Hashi goes to climb this ladder, okay, and uh, you know,

the higher he gets, the more wobbly it is. And then he's trying to turn around as he's you know, three runs from the top, and it takes him an hour to try to turn around because it's so wobbly, and I'm looking down and it's like, where's red shoes? Can you at least hold the ladder, nopeches Like you're on your own, buddy, you turn around. You either make it or you don't. And thankfully he made it. And hey, the high fly flow look great. And there was a

spot in the in the Olcada Osprey match. Okada or Osprey did this moon salt off a lighting rig that I realized I was ejaggerating with two feet but he was legitimately twelve feet in the air because it was double the height of Ocada, and he did this moon salt off this ladder, and I have no idea how he didn't destroy both of his knees. It was scary looking, but he did it. And like I said, the match was great. If this had been a full Tokyo Dome,

people going nuts. I mean, people will be talking about from Match of the year. I would suspect five months from now it will not be in the running for Match of the Year. What did you think of this show? What else did you see? Mike? I saw the last five matches. Actually I didn't have a chance to see the King of Pro Wrestling UH four away and everything

that took place before that. I'll be watching that before Adam and I record the big audio Nightmare, which I think is gonna be a little bit later on today. But you know, one thing, because the one thing for you go because it's breaking news. Uh W is on another firing spree. Yeah, you'll hear about it more soon, but at this moment, I know that people are getting fired in an x T sou We'll no more, probably by the end of the show. But you know, they just got they just got too many people as they

have literally nobody to face the Roman reins. It just sucks. Go ahead, well, let's see the names too. You know, it's see if it's a mix of people as well too, if there's any redundancy issues or anything like that. But you know, you made a crack about Sonata and Great Ocon, you know, as far as the technical aspect of an o'con getting that award, but it appears to be mostly office by the way, go ahead at this point. This could change, but right now it's it seems to be

office people. So Sonata and o'con actually was, you know, at its moments, actually being technically really good, and of course that comes from Sonata. It gets the victory in that match, that's followed up by Tetsu Nito and Jeff Cobb and what was a really great fifteen and a half minutes. Jeff Cobb is, He's fantastic. You know, if they wanted to rebuild the tag team division and inserts some new blood into a Great Ocon as a team

with Jeff Cobb would be great. You know, I'd love to see Jeff Cobb in the mix for singles titles. But the way it looks right now, you know, with Evil holding the the i C title and and just all that sort of stuff, I don't know if that's sort of the never title. I'm not sure if that's a direct action that they would want to go. But him is in a tag team with Osprey continuing the challenge Okada. I love that, and I think they made the right decision with Ocada and Osprey too. I'm not sure.

You know, everybody's got their favorites on who they wanted to see come out of this thing. But I think with the situation they're in right now, with the with the you know cash that Okada has, I think it's the right time. And plus he gets a chance to finally wear his very first i w g P World Heavyweight. Yeah, all he did was complain about how the belt sucked and he wanted the old belt pack, and then he starts carrying around the old belt and he wins this belt.

Now he's proud. Well, I agreed with him earlier. By the way, Jeff probably still agrees with that too. But you know, this is how things go. Sometimes. You know, you've got a boss that's uh real pain in the ass, and they want it their way all of the time, over and over again, and they just constantly will tear you down. Sometimes you just have to say it fine, I'll take you. But promotion, you're talking about all of them. I'm just saying, why can take my text arcana title?

Come on, get real brother? So anyway, there's uh, get out of here. So anyway, there's a lot of other stuff going on that we gotta talk about. We can come back to this one when you do uh, when we do commentary later. You know what I'm talking about when you contact me. But tonight is a W They moved to TBS, So of course if you DVR this show, VCR or whatever, if you're one of these old school folks,

then you need to change it to TBS. The lineup tonight Hangman page Brian Danielson for the au W World title. This match sixty minute time limit with judges, and uh, we don't know who the judges are yet. I think people have Do we know the judges? I I heard a name, but I don't know if that guy was joking or what the situation is. I don't they haven't announced it. I don't believe you think that they would announce these judges because it's kind of like an important

part of the story. Well, but that's the that's the reason they're not doing that because if they do announce the name, somebody's gonna try to draw lines right away or something like that as Max Caster really wonder is he joking? That's my question. Oh god, I if that's going to be the case, and I love Max Caster and everything, but it's like, don't do that, you know, make it where I don't know if this is gonna be for the world title. This is a really important thing.

You're just doing a really w c W thing if you bring in Jason Hervey, Patty Mullen. And I'm not saying that, well, if one of your wrestlers is at that level, the story is a w W story here. But the judges, Yeah, maybe, but it doesn't to me. You can't. You can't do that. I mean, if you're gonna do that, why would Max Caster be a judge other than he won like a lot of thing. If you're gonna do that, put it on BT or something. It's like somebody won the raffle to be one of

the judges for the World Heavyweight Championship contest. I that's crazy. Well, Leny Lenny here does say they never announced the jog just for Flair Steamboat in eighty nine and that ended up just fine. So I guess, well, here's the deal, everybody, here's the deal. Yeah they I think they did announce them beforehand, but somebody cleared this up. But here's here's here's the deal, everybody. I don't know the finish. I don't know who's winning. I would say with ninety nine

point nine nine certainty it's not going to the judges. Okay, how long should the match go is a big question. Well, by the way, I don't know you fifty bucks because that Okada Osprey match went over thirty minutes. But anyway, here's the thing with this match. Based on the first match going to a sixty minute draw, and based on the fact that the match grew like through the entire hour and fifteen minutes it was on the air, this should go long, but it should not go to a draw.

I would probably do forty two forty four minutes, because you do want to tease is that it's going to go to a draw again. But it shouldn't go to a draw. And you know, the longer you go, the more people are going to watch the match. So I think that it should go long, but not to a draw.

And you know, there's a lot of rumors about John Moxley because he was announced it with it was a gc DOUBLEW show he was announced for in late January, and he's clearly returning to a W before GCW, and most likely he was supposed to be wrestling for the world title on this show. Uh So I would not be the least bit surprised if if Hangman Page ended up winning the match and then the feud with Moxley begins there. But I mean, there's a million things that

they could do. We got Luca Brothers, Jurassic Express for the titles. James just throw and here one thing real quick on that because I don't know, I'll have to double check to see. I don't think that was announced. What was announced was that when Homicide one the number one contendership rumbled that they had he is going to

get the next shot. It's just everyone's assumption that because they're going to Hammerstein in January that if Moxley, if Moxley is ready, why would you not have a Moxley match against Homicide and have the g c W world title match then? So I think people are leaning into that, but I mean, I mean, I have no idea what the status of John's Moxley is if he's impatient, I have no idea. So I think I think people maybe just taking that and going, well, he's got to be

back soon, right, He's gonna be back there. And I don't know if that's necessarily the case, because, like you mentioned, there are a lot of people saying once he come to come back to a w and he would have to quote unquote have to do that first. It would just make more sense. We've got Jake Cargill Ruby Soho for the TBS title Malichi Black, Ryan Pillman Jr. MGF versus t b A Chris Jericho appears. There will be no Young Bucks on the show because Matt and Brandon

Cutler both got COVID several days ago. I was told that Matt feels much much better today, and I believe Brandon does as well. Nick Jackson obviously he was, you know, spending a lot of time with his brother and so, uh he was quarantined, but I don't think that he got it. Uh. So I would presume that they will be good to go for next week's show, but they

will not be there for tonight's show. And this was not a situation where they flew out there and they discovered that they had COVID there and so potentially other members. This was all stuff in California and they've just been at home for the last several days. So that's the update on the Jackson's and Brandon Cutler. Hopefully everything means uh,

everybody's good. Soon moved towards as we moved towards the end of the week here two before you mentioned Kalisto Roman Reigns, you know, they did mention that teases if he's gonna be ready for Friday or not. Now we're already on Wednesday. It is gonna be interesting to see if he actually does show up in Lesner sees him on SmackDown. So Kalisto noted on Instagram that the virus

nearly ended him. He said he was hospitalized the entire month of August, nearly had two heart attacks in addition to the virus and a stomach ulcer, adding that he quote only had a day to prepare for my return on TV, which was his SmackDown match. Was a sorrow, he says, beyond my belief. I thought I never get this bad, but I took that as a sign. Really trained hard, rolled the dice and Luca two is all. I focus on Luca always like there's no tomorrow, he wrote,

so he got it bad. And then Tony Khan's dream signing. I don't know who it is, but he says there is a dream signing that is coming quote pretty soon to a w SO back in a moment, we'll talk, braun Breaker, take your feedback, Tokyo Dome, whatever else you want to get into. Back in a moment, as you rely sometimes love back of the show. Brian ober is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike nimbur Viv also of Wrestling Observer dot com. It made man. Bron Breaker is the

NXT two point Out champion now beat Tamasa. Chomping match was really good. Chomp is awesome. Braun Breaker is impossibly good. Given his uh fifteen career matches, I think he's at right now. He uh got the win with the Rick Steiner Bulldog off the middle rope, followed by the Scott Steiner Steiner recliner clean submission over Tomaso Champa or Frankensteiner's in this match. You don't you know what? Uh? I don't you guys know that I like this braun Breaker.

But you know I really like about this run Breaker is he has a great sympathetic face. Like if you see the guy, he's like a big tough guy, big mean looking tough guy. And sometimes we have a big, mean looking tough guy, let's say Goldberg for example. Goldberg, he never has like the sympathetic face where when he's selling, you know, he's got that that look on his face. We're like, oh, man, this poor guy. He he sells like a like an animal that's been injured. That's what

Goldberg does. And a lot of these these big mean dudes, Uh, they have the same sort of deal. But man, this broun Breaker, when that guy is selling, I mean he's got this look of sadness and pain on his face where it's like, man, this guy, this guy is gonna get some sympathy. And he did a great job in this match. Chomp as out of this world, Broun Breakers your new champion. And uh, I thought it was a very very good main event. The they didn't do aj

styles and uh and what's his face grace? Yeah, it was listed on the lineup and then they just didn't do it. I guess he's one of those things where they know they showed the show and they thought, wait a second, we have a show next week. I thought about that. I hadn't thought that we had to do another show in a week and switch one of the matches. So it's aj Styles, Grace and Waller next week on the next T and also Zion Quinn and Santos Escobar

watching take place on Raw. Watch him watch Waller come out or a j come out and go. You know what? I demand he come out here and I faced him tonight on Raw. Yeah, we got Zion Quinn, Santos Escobar where what's her name is going to leave with the winner. The storyline is just so stupid. Boa versus Solo Sakoa. We have got a Marii Miller, Casey Caton Zoro and Caden Carter versus Persia Paratta, Indie Heartwell and Wendy Chew. Wendy Chew is a former thousand year old lady. She's

got a new gimmick now. Her gimmick is that she wears her pajamas everywhere and sleeps backstage. That one. You guys are watching n x T two point oh, change your plans, set your DVR, and then Pete Dunn and Tony D'Angelo are having a crowbar on a pole match. I'm not making any of this up. That's the line up for next week on the next t Look at me smiling thinking about this. Ridiculous. So anyway, the opener

on the show was Carmelo Hayes versus Roderick Strong. It was a unification match for the Cruiserweight and North American championships, and Carmelo Hayes won, so he's a unified champion. I presumed they're just gonna get rid of the cruiseweight title the match. It's weird because like I was watching the match, and I've gotten reports of the show was bad until the main event, and I was watching Carmelo Hayes and Roger Strong. It was not bad. It was like a

good match. It's like a really good match. And then when it was over, the announced was talking about how it's the first classic match of of two and then like hit me that it wasn't that good. I's fine, there's nothing wrong with it, but it's just like a good match. You know. Roderick Strong's great. Carmelo Hazed a lot of he does a lot of cool stuff. But it was just like more he did cool stuff as opposed to, hey, we're gonna put this cool stuff into

like a really great match. Nothing wrong with it, it was it was fine. We add the h Riddle and ms ca versus Imperium match, which very very good match. I mean everyone in this match is great, and Walter was in there just chopping the hell out of people. Actually, the real marking out was for the chops in the in the opening match with Carmelo and Roderick Strong. I mean, those guys were chopping each other. The fans on this

show were great. I mean, there was like former people or whatever in the building, but they were hot for this show. And man, they're throwing chops in the opener, and there's these grown men in the crowd. They're clutching there, these chip ups. And of course then when Volter got into started chopping dudes, they sold for that as well. These fans sold great, better than Omas, I might add. But they had a good match, and then Riddle actually uh pinned Bartel so Imperium with the return of Vaulter.

They actually lost, but it was a very very good match. Electoral Lopez is her name, She says next week, it's Zion Quinn Santos Escobar. Even though Zion Quinn said she needed to give him an answer last week or else, Well, she'll give him the answer next week. She's leaving with the winner. There you go, Manny Rose, Cora Jade and

Raquel Gonzalez. I mean, I wouldn't say the match was bad, but if you're one of those folks that just like you think Cora Jade is great and they should do something with his twenty year old, well, bro, you know what you're watching. So there is three way and Uh. At the end of the match, Cora Jade UH tosses Uh Gonzalez outside. She's alone in the ring with Mandy Rose,

who has been laid out. Cora Jade gets a smirk on her face, like, man I got this one, and she goes over there and she gets her cradle reversed and she's pinned clean in the middle of the ring by Mandy Rose. It's like, of course, she was so Mandy Rose the heel. Mandy Rose the Heel went in there and she she convinced both baby faces to fight each other. They fight each other, leading to a match where she outsmarts both of them. And she cleanly pins Cora Jade because they don't know how to book a

baby face to save their lives. And then there was some other stuff as well, but yeah, the main event was highlighted the show brun Breaker, I mean beer money. She just give me his money now because like he's losing this beat I mean brun Breakers. He's a future superstar on the main roster. It's like he's got those genetics. Man,

he really does. And I I know him all old, but thirty five years ago, you know his father winning the TV title and I just remember a big goofy Rick Steiner given the interview afftert he beats Mike Rotundo for the TV title, A big childlike figure. And that's one thing, even though people don't think of him this way because of where he you know, what he looked like in the n b O days and what his reputation is. I mean, Rick Steiner had that kind of face too, that confused, goofy face. He can make a

childlike kind of sad face. That's why when he was feuding with Kevin Sullivan in the Varsity Club and people like that, you could get sympathy on a guy who was a killer, a guy who looked like he had muscles on muscles because he did. A guy who could actually take you and physically rip you apart because they knew he had real wrestling skills and credentials. I mean, that's what was able to get Rick Steiner over as this goofy baby face and Braun has that. The only

thing that Braun doesn't have is size. And it's crazy when you think about braun Breaker and you think about this guy the Ravens, and he had this incredible you know, thirty bench press whatever it was where they were blown his you know, he was blowing everybody's mind because of

his size. He doesn't have height. And if there's gonna be anything that ends up hurting him on the main roster would be if there's Braun Breaker and there is somebody else who is six six who may not have this, but he's got the size that Vince will always kind of fall to. That's the only thing I can see

hurting braun Breaker. But the reality is he's so good, he so cares Matt, he's got he's got everything that it's gonna be their fault if he doesn't develop because there's nothing about him and everything about him, his football career, his now his wrestling where he doesn't want to put in the effort. He's not gonna do everything he needs to do. So if this thing doesn't happen, it's probably gonna be because them and I know we say that a lot, but this is there's a real big shining

light on this. If they screw up Rick Steiner's kid development wise, that's uh, that's pretty sad. Dude. He's got a big, thick physique. He's taller than Curt Angle was. He's miles better than Grayson Waller. He's miles better than who are the other dudes here that they push Von Wagner. He's miles beyond And I won't say better than Carmelo because I think Carmelo has got a different star power and I think you know too, he will go significantly

farther than Carmelo and he absolutely will. Yeah, he he will. But you know, as far as the new people that they're pushing, yeah, I mean, you know, experience aside, he really is at the top of the list because of

everything else. And you know, just to bring this up to because I've talked about Santos Escobar and would love to see him out of there if they're not going to use him on the main ross from the Bitch and moan and mine about not having any Latino stars who can speak great English, Well, you know, he's another guy. Why isn't he there? Because of his size? He's too short. It's so incredibly stupid. But Imperium Bartel and Eichner, and I know everybody loves Walter, and Walter's reputation is what

it is, Man Bartel and Eichner. Everybody who's talks about what I wonder what the Uskos could look like, you know, uncuffed outside of the w W E element. I think the same thing about Imperium all the time. I think they're fantastic. You look at teams like the Briscoes and FTR who might be getting together, and you look at what can happen because of the landscape we're in right now,

and I look at Imperium and go, damn. I'd love to see them against a lot of tag teams out there, whether it be the Young Bucks FTR, I don't care who it is. I'd love to see him work. Rick Steiner was there, celebrated with his son afterwards. That was a Digital Exclusive. They didn't even put that on the show. They can't call him Steiner, but it's like, I mean, they tell you multiple times every time he's out there that he is he is Rick Steiner's. He is a

dog faced gremlin, un faced gremlin. He does all their moves and awesome franken Steiner in this match. You know it's gonn make people mad. It is. Frankensteiner is better than Scott's. Bro. I've been watching Scott's Frankensteiner. I literally watched it yesterday on because we're watching all of the old ros and Scott's is great in the crowd Pops

Big Four because they haven't seen it before. But like he does not landing on his head and his shoulder like Scott used to do all the time, So well that's he was never Yeah, there was the difference between what was the difference between the Hurricane Rona and the Frankensteiner because Scott lan on his neck and not like I don't know how he didn't break his neck. A

couple of times. I just saw a clip not all that long ago about a guy who didn't go over and in Scott how he didn't break his neck at the angle that he was at and how he didn't actually be He had cocked his fist, but he didn't beat the hell out of the guy, and it was a miracle. He probably did backstage and probably deserved to. Alrighty, let's look at some of the feedback here. What is everyone talking about other than they want to quit? Because I had the temerity to say it a bit of

Frankensteiner than Scott. Oh what im I say? It's not a raymisterious, A bit of Frankstiner than Scott singna quit for that one as well anything else. Ghetto could book a better one, probably right. This person here says if w W we were smart, they would have braun Breaker win the Royal Rumbull Challenge Roman Reigns for the title at Mania and dethrone him. They'd make a star in three months. Well, as much as i'd like to see that, to win my thousand dollars quickly, I think can happen.

I think Paul Fontaine here says, listening to you talking about the match before you saw it, here's what I posted to our Facebook group. I don't think it was possible for he should have anything other than an excellent singles match, but holy smokes, evil Dick, Togo and the horse they wrote in on I can't even read half

of this. There's so much profanity. But anyway, Paul didn't like it either, nor should he because in fact we're talking about this yesterday, want to you didn't want to hear any of it like that rational, nuanced conversation about everything that you mentioned being really going back to this, No, I don't think that the ghetto should be removed for bad match with she, but it was a bad man mentioned about those those things about house of torture and all that sort of stuff. Look, j White is going

to get back. That's gonna be great. Chris Bay is going to make his debut as a member of probably the Boy Club in New Japan. I can't wait for that because I really like Chris Bay and everything. But you know, it's whether these coming guys come back and are they doing the same old thing, And yeah, it's gonna be some sav on the wound to be able to see Okada and you know, you name the American or the American that you want Tanahashi to face or

any of that sort of stuff. But hopefully they have learned from a lot of this and from the stark way that things don't get over with the fans that are there and maybe look for changing some things before it does get worse. That's all I'm saying. Road Doug is gone. Matt Striker also put out a tweet and later deleted its, stating he has done with Impact. It's unrelated obviously an x T fire rings, but were after the breakups ever Live back in the show. Bright Over

is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike nimber Vid also Wrestling Observer dot Com. This guy's got a great idea, but I don't think it's gonna happen. The judges tonight should beat Jericho, Omega and Moxley, the former champions, but I don't think they're bringing Omega back. They're doing a long term storyline with him, So I don't think that's gonna

be who it's gonna be. Judge Jeff Jones, you go in house, Jerry Lynde Malenco or do you go, uh, you do something different because some of those guys were in with the Dustin Dusty or Cody thing, weren't they. Yeah, you know how many times Beer Money has been told that I'm not affort double video and he just keeps it up. Is it that hard to read the chat?

You know you can read it. By the way, A lot of talk about beach break being in Cleveland in the winter, so a lot of people have presumed that means Johnny Gargano was debuting take on the Lake Listen.

Maybe he is. I don't know. I've absolutely no idea what Johnny Gargana was doing, but I do know that there's another a W star who is from Cleveland, and that is Wardlow, and they have been building up a Wardlow split for a while, and so I certainly would not would it beyond them to book Cleveland, to pull the trigger on that angle, splitting him from m JF and doing whatever they're doing with MGF punk Ward Low and etcetera, etcetera. So I guess we'll find out, but

they want to throw that out there. And yes, last thing, I will be doing a prediction show sometime soon. I'm not sure when, I'm pretty sure I want anyway. So I mean that kind of takes my award here. I got a major award here that shows off my my excellence in my incredible mental capacities. Where is it it's over there, said, Oh I got this. Don't get out of here. We're out of time. Everybody want to thank

all for listening here today. Mike is always I guess callers and listeners, everybody the studio, top tier YouTube subscribers, Twitch homies. We'll talk to you next time, Wrestling Abserver Live. You have been listening to the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network

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