Vacation/Filthy Tom Lawlor - podcast episode cover

Vacation/Filthy Tom Lawlor

Dec 21, 202140 min
--:--
--:--
Download Metacast podcast app
Listen to this episode in Metacast mobile app
Don't just listen to podcasts. Learn from them with transcripts, summaries, and chapters for every episode. Skim, search, and bookmark insights. Learn more

Episode description

With Bryan away on vacation, Mike takes the reigns with guest Filthy Tom Lawler. Mike and Tom discuss Tom's New Japan Championship and all the latest news.

Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

Speaker 1

Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready for you, Ready, let's get it all, Let's get it Indeed, welcome to Wrestling Observer Live. My name is Mike semper viv here with you for the next hour talking professional wrestling and mixed martial arts, something we do every single day here on the Sports Byeline Radio network.

And however you're joining me today, whether it be through tune in, I Heart American Forces Radio, over the air affiliates like the Mighty Er ten nineties, Sports Byeline dot com, sirius x podcast, or streaming on Twitch or YouTube. But just want to say thank you for spending some time with me today. A needs you. Boss Man's not here. I'll be filling in for Brian Alvarez all week. For those of you who only have any knowledge of the Empire directly through this show, you need to expand your

horizons more. Number one. Number two, you may not know that Brian Alvarez has never taken a family vacation where he was away from work. We make jokes about him going to the dentist, We make jokes about him going to Cannon Beach and all that sort of stuff. But the reality is this guy has not taken a real vacation in like fifteen years, certainly not since he started having kids. He is either producing a show, he is on a show, he is on a phone called something

is always taking place. But finally he decided to listen to Oreo the Orca finally one time in his life, not just to pick up trash and to make the waterways better, but to to do something for himself and his family. So he's out there with Oreo the York on the water and he'll be back next week, I believe, at least on this show, unless he just decides he enjoys us way too much and and doesn't come back at all. But until then, I'll be holding down the fort.

You never know who might show up, except for today. You already know who's gonna show up. My co host on on occasional UFC post shows right here on twitch dot tv Backslash f four w video, Filthy Tom Lowell or your new japan Strong open weight champion, is going to be joining me today to talk about a ton of things, including some great women's wrestling that we saw and even stardom. Yeah, we're gonna talk about that Lash, Legends, Sary match, and a whole lot more when we get

back from break. This is Rescue Server Alive. Welcome back to the show. Mike semper Viv here with your wrestling Observe Alive. We do this show one hour at a time, but if you want us seven you can find us on Twitter. I am at semper vv This show is at w O n F four W the broad casts at Sports Byline USA and if you love pro wrestling at mid Atlantic Pod. You could try to tweet at Brian Alvarez, but he probably won't be getting back to you. You would be better off tweeting at your New Japan

Strong open Weight Champion. In today's co host, he might be the co host all week for all I know. Filthy Tom Lawlor, filthy, what's going on? Thanks for the great introduction, Mike. I am here recovering after a long weekend of having my face shifted in multiple directions at ai W Wrestling and also on New Japan Strong, where I defeated and retained said championship, the Strong open Weight Championship with a victory over Fred Rosser to end the year on a high note for both of us, I'd say,

Mike and bring the win for the Empire. Thank you for that. You know, at least there's a winner here in the Empire and the first too. And let me just want to thank producer Dom who has us on like a fifteen second delay because it's the two of us. In case we slip at any point during this broadcast, we do want to mention him right off the bat and apologize if we somehow get cut off the air, and fish Talk just miraculously appears at some point during

the show. But you did have a very long weekend, and with Brian not being here, we're gonna probably have to take a look at your exploits on Strong, which there were. There were ups and downs too, and of course SmackDown, which you usually review with Brian on the Monday afternoon show, which we can take care of here. But AI w over the weekend, there is a tweet circulating around of you getting hit very very hard. That

is correct, that's an accurate assumption. I was in a four way match with Levi Everett who ended up being the winner of that contest. Actually Levi Everett, Derek Dillinger and Isaiah Broner, and uh, I was you know what, Mike, I've actually had multiple people in the rest industry reach out to me after seeing that tweet asking if I was okay. So I'd like to thank the various people who did so. But I'm luckily I'm fine. Um, and I'm who hits you harder him or Coglin. Broner for sure?

Was that? Yeah, yeah, not even a question on that one the weekends now you, I guess we'll get into it because we Brian has brought up on the show he thought you were going to take the l to Fred Rosser. That obviously didn't happen. You You survived him, another successful defense, another notch on your belt as being

the new Japan Strong open weight champion. But a man that you jettisoned away, a man that wanted to go out, and I guess so his wild wrestling oats, his sports entertainment oates came back into the fold and he looked like he would come back and be a family member again, a man who understood the the error of his a's and looked like he was coming back to his since a,

which would be you filthy Tom Lawler. But Tyler, rust Russ Taylor, Taylor's Ham whatever this man's name is, grew his hair out and all of a sudden thinks he's somebody interrupted you on the microphone and laid you out. What is that about? Yeah, old Rusty Ham, there is gonna need to get a technics shot after the shooter Filthy Tom Waller gets ahold of him. He's not gonna step back into the fold from n x T from wherever he was down in Florida, from the now defunct

Ring of Honor. He was getting around, you know, he was. He was doing pretty well for himself, but not as well as I've been doing. So Taylor, Rust you, I mean, good job. You earned yourself the V seven title defense from Filthy Tom Lawler. But that's as close as you're getting to that strong open weight title. Are you gonna

choke him out? Just on principle of this? Are you gonna beat him, like, you know, within an inch of his life, But just right before you can knock him out for good, you know, just a twelve to six elbow, you decide to instead jerk him back and wrap your arms around his throat and just choke the life out of this man, is that because I would that if I had the ability to after something like that, I would want to You know what, Mike, I often think about what I would do to opponents if I had

the opportunity to do more than just simply defeat them. Uh. And after you're attacked by somebody who you consider a friend, who you consider one of your own compadres, like I did Taylor Rust, I've got something very very special in store for him. I'm gonna sit him down. I might, you know, take his breath away, take away a little bit of his consciousness with a choke. But once I see that he's about to go out, I'm gonna lift

his head up and I'm gonna go. You know what, Taylor, I've got something more painful for you to do that even I can lay on you. And I'm gonna force him to watch last legend versus say from two oh five live, if if if we could find the entire thing somewhere online? Yes, so as the best transition possible, because I was gonna I was gonna ask you the first time you saw Taylor did was he dropping elbows like lash legend? Is that what he had picked up down there? And decided to bring home to uh like

show off. I can imagine like shiba a son, this is this is what I've learned and he starts dropping that elbow. Well, you know what, I'd like to think that he was doing much of her training, uh, you know,

over the past few months. But um, for those of you that don't know what we're referring to, there was a match at two oh five Live between say uh and lash Legend, who, bless her heart, I would say, is not ready for television at this point based on her in ring abilities and in ring action and m This was one of there's been a lot of very what would be maligned women's matches over the years. We had ow my can you say it on the air?

My vagina from one of the females um and this is another one that's gonna go down in the in the book says yes, yes. A legendary match from last legend in Srey was Rebel in And what do we get who was that? Was it? Charmel and Rebel and t I forget that. Look, there were some bad women's matches and impact and this this was amazing and I know this. There were people online that because of certain people on the internet who said things about this match.

People wanted to run and defend it for some godforsaken reason. And look, I understand that maybe some of the people that talked about this match that reputation precede them, so that's maybe why you didn't want to give it any weight. But here's a fact I and I know, I was not the only one at this website that was alerted way before this match aired that you are going to be seeing the most edited match in the history of w w E. And you know, we saw that and

I was it a joke? Was it really true? I don't know because I've never actually seen the entire match, because I saw the clip of it go up everywhere. W w E tweeted clips of this match. I don't know what they were trying to prove, but they tweeted clips of this match, and it says go to peacock to watch it. I go to peacock to watch it. The last two oh five live that is uploaded to peacock is December third edition, So I have to click to more like this. I figure, okay, I'll click on

is their clips of it? And there were clips of it, so if you go to more like this if for some reason like mine and I assume it's the same

for everybody, it's not. On Peacock. You can find all three minutes in twelve seconds of this clip that they tweeted out, and I would have thought at least they would have had a bunch of edits and shown the ending, but no, they cut it off with a missile drop kick from Surrey after two amazing elbow drops from lash Legend, a followay slam that was something else in a very unique takedown pinning combination, for which lash Legend then got up and just walked away from Well, Mike, I was

lucky enough to actually see the entire match, uh through alternative means. I also looked on Peacock and could not find you were always about alternative means in your life, well, especially when it comes to something as important as this, you know, as enticing as this matchup is. Um And what I can say is that I'll ask a question, Mike, who do you think won the match? Mm hmm. You

know what I Am actually gonna think about this. It is hard over the break because I know we're getting close to it, and I will give you without looking it up without trying to find it. I will give you my honest and or answer when we get back

from break. I promise you that you could have dropped in something at the Wrestling Observe Alive back on the show, Mike Simper vb here whether you're filling in for Brian Albarez this week and the Big Boy host and share, and I'm joined by Filthy, Tom Lawler, New Japan Strong open Weight Champion, and your friend here at four w online dot com. Filthy four dailies usually every Monday for

subscribers over at Wrestling Observer dot com. But since Brian is floating along in the ocean alongside Oreo, Filthy is here with us today and we're gonna be talking a little bit about New Japan Strong, talking a little bit about UH SmackDown as well as stardom. But you know, the women's wrestling of the weekend that has taken the most attention from everybody has been last Legend in Surrey.

And there was no finish in the match that I saw that I mentioned, So I'm going to go out on a limb and say that he probably shouldn't do this, at least I'm hoping Saray was the one that came home with the title, or with with the title, with with the match, the title of what he said, the title of person that didn't lose the lash Legend. Well, Mike, if you could believe it or not, the finish of the match was indeed Saray winning with a poll of the tights on lawn. Yes, I promise you. Lash Legend

did an O'Connor roll, she pulled Sirey's tights. Surrey rolled through and pulled the tights of lash Legend, pin her and then was sent to the floor with a big boot by lash Legend, who then told her she will have to remember the night where she lashed out. This had to be a rib. It had to be a rib on the viewers. Well, I mean just from like maybe this is like an inside rib. They've put matches of lash Legends up on two of five and it is or on clip form before and it is obvious

that she's not ready to be on TV. And this is not her fault. She's obviously a great athlete, she's got a great personality. They wanted to rush her into having a talk show. Okay, fine with all of that sort of stuff, but she's still developing who she is what she is. And I understand that it's two or five live and not a lot of people see it. But then when you have w w E their main Twitter feed and i'm sure Instagram and everywhere else they are tweeting this stuff out, It's like, how does this

make sorry or lash legend look good? Why is it something that we the people needed to see from these folks. Why was this necessary to put out there? What part of the learning process is show your ask this badly when we absolutely you know, don't have to let you do that. Like, I don't understand why you would do this to somebody when it's unneeded to when you have plenty of other people there that you could have a pretty cool five minute package you could put together and

have on the show. Yeah, it's not as if they don't have the parts there to have, you know, good matches, uh in the woman's division, But you know they I guess they have to get experienced somewhere without having any sort of touring shows at the time. This is the spot. Now, why you would then feature it on your social media

and television programs? Uh? Knowing? I mean someone has to know that this wasn't up to par, you know, with the rest of what we saw, and we saw a variety if you look over the week, a variety of different styles of female wrestling, different presentations when it comes to female wrestling. We saw this match on Smacked Down.

We had what was largely just an angle between two you know, very capable athletes in Shana and Naomi Uh and they are just playing essentially, you know, second fiddle in a long, very long storyline between Sonja and Naomi Uh. And then we had the Stardom pay per view, which featured you know, some of the best not only I would say female workers in the world, but some of the best wrestlers you know, regardless of sex or gender

orientation or whatever on the Stardom roster. Hallelujah, hallelujah to that.

And we we're going to get to that. But I just want to rewind back for a second here, did you did you see, sorry, when she was in Japan and like matches against like Chichiro Hashimoto and women like that, It's just it was a dicey proposition with her coming over to the States anyway, you know, being you know, in Mako Satamura's vain, But I honestly thought that one I thought Mako was gonna come over here, and I thought that would make sense as to why she would

be here as opposed to going to UK and them going together to UK. But you know, she comes over here and it's like it was obvious in a lot of ways. It was a square peg, round hole. It

felt like that. But it's like, okay, well maybe we can get something out of this, you know, because she does have you know, a look and she you know, there are benefits to I think Suray cosmetically and work wise being in w w E. But you know, the more the changes have happened, you know, she's kind of gotten shuffled around, and I don't know, especially after even when you're watching Stardom, you know, we were watching that. You know, I don't know how long she's going to

be there. But and you don't have to be a pundent on this, but like, what do you think about Saray in n XT and in this two point oh universe that we have now? Does she even fit there? Or would you actually send her to UK at the first available opportunity and go okay, Kaylee Ray and Mako and some of the women be priestly, you know, some of the people that are over there, maybe she's better

off with I mean, am I making the decisions? Yeah, they don't want to put her with people that she's gonna have the best matches with, and uh, that's probably not in the role that she's in, you know right now. I think one of the things about developmental too, is that you want to prepare these upcoming wrestlers for what they're gonna face on the main roster. And I mean, his last legend really gonna face another Surrey on the main roster. I mean they where's Osska? You know what

I mean? It seems as if they've even moved away from that style of wrestler on the main roster. There's no are there any Japanese females up there now? And if you look at what they're doing with with Mandy Rose, and you look at what they're doing with uh Toxic Attraction. If this is the idea of what they want to do, which is obviously downplaying the physical wrestling as opposed to some of the GAGA in the look of how you do how you do that wrestling, you know, it's it's

not it doesn't feel very good. You know. It always amazed me that John Morrison was not like to me, he was a perfect guy to go to the next and be a bridge for a lot of those people.

I think Oscar is the same way. But now she's just disappeared completely and it's like, yeah, I mean, if that's what they want on the main roster, then yeah, there really is no place for say there doesn't feel like And one of the things that they actually talked about it, Nigel McGinnis talked about it on commentary during that match, was that when Saya arrived, she was hot, she was on a wind streak, and now she's kind

of just fallen by the wayside. And you know, you would think that in this if I was booking this and you're trying to elevate lash Legend, clearly they have some sort of future plans for or did you would be giving her the win here, not somebody who you're portraying on commentary as you know, being on a losing streak. And then after the match Legend laser out. Anyways, she goes, hey, you know what, you interrupted me, but you're so darn

cute that that was actually what she said. She said, you're so darn cute, but then I'm gonna make you pay for lash an hour or whatever she said. So I really don't understand what they're doing with here, for I don't need. That's so the opposite of the hook debut with with Lash Legend. You ever watch showtime at the Apollo, Did you ever watch that? You have amateur Night and see the amateur Night would happen and somebody

would come out there. They'd be terrible, and they bring out the Sandman, and the sand Man had a big hook and he'd come out there and start pulling them away, and it's like the anti hook. It's like the Sandman's hook. That's what lash legend. That's what she had going on. And it's not her fault, as you mentioned your their job is disupposed to bring these folks on, you know,

along and the best way possible. And I don't know if featuring her matches right now is the best way possible, but women's matches of feature that We're awesome certainly came out of uh stardom this past week and the pay per view that they had, which was you know, there were there was a pros and cons about it. Almost

the entire thing was a big pro. There was the Captain's Fall elimination match, which we'll get into, the Oato tie and Queen's Quest was kind of it was you could see it coming from a zillion miles away and that wasn't very fun. But the battle over the Artist of Stardom titles and the ten millions million dollar yen battle between the the units was great, I thought. And the elimination match ladder match at the end was something else.

And Tom, this was a ladder match kind of felt like from back in the day because that was a ladder that was straight out of the hardware store. It was not reinforced, it didn't look safe. But those women at the end, it came down to uh Micah Jimica and that's the point representing Donna del Mondo against the Stars unit. It of tam Nicano and uh no, no, no, no, no, no,

well no, that's why I'm sorry. Was my yui Watani sorry that we put tam Nakano in there, but my ui Watani High School and Kuguma and it was again the the matches, where do you want to start with this? Because the final was excellent. But do you want to build up the entire show or how do you want to go through this? Well, I mean, let's start off by talking about what this show was. And this is something that I wish, you know, W W a W virtually every company around the world would do, and that

is come up with a different sort of concept. They This pay per view was built around the Trio's tournament between all of the top factions, but there was also ten million yen on the line in a briefcase and in the finals, if you've reached the finals, you have to compete for this ten million yen in an elimination ladder match, which sounds about as crazy or it was

about as crazy as it sounds. So I think it's very important to you know, kind of outline that because going into this you don't need, you know, great knowledge of every single wrestler, You don't need great knowledge of all the inner workings between the different factions. You just need to know that there's a tournament going on for ten million yen and that everybody's going for it absolutely. And you know what, well, since we're getting close to

break here, I will set the stage. Marvelous had a Unit involved. There was Stars, Cosmic Angels, Queen's Quest. So there we're again. We'll get into the breakdown of who was in this tournament as we we we come back from break here Wrestling Observer Live. Oh yeah, and we'll mention ros well too when we get back. Bye Mike s for VV Back with your Wrestling Observer Alive, joined by Filthy Tom Lawler. Believe it or not, we're talking about Stardom osaka super Wars. That was just on tape

per view. I guess in a few days it should be up on the Stardom streaming service. But they started offering their big shows on pay per view, and really it's completely worth it because the action is incredibly good. We talked about the UH Unit battle that they were doing, the tournament that they were doing between Donna del Mondo, Marvelous Stars and Cosmic Angels. Marvelous, Takumi, Roija, uh Riten, Catacora and Maria came over to work this tournament. They

lost to Donna del Mondo in the first round. UH Stars upset what seemed like a US upset over Cosmic Angels in the second semifinal match, which led to the finals and there was a stipulation that each unit had to name what they were going to do with the win and with the money, and all of the groups said, what we'd like to have a show that people could be involved with. The fans could either come for free or we'd have a nice little get together and in

a fan fest. And except for Donna Delmondo, who said, this is about our vacation. We're going on vacation and we're going to to take care of ourselves with this. Now, there was some drama leading into it as MAKA and that's the poy of Donna Delmondo or the unit is what are they calling themselves? A poy? Uh. They've been kind of beefing back and forth now for a little while, and that actually came together in the the main event as well too in the finals. But Tom, what did

you think about number one? The two tag matches themselves and then the final of the ladder match, where I gotta be honest, there were obviously some you know, spotty moments and shaky moments, but I don't I don't know how many of those women have ever been involved in the ladder match, and so for them to do it, I thought you know for the first one, UH put on a hell of a show. Yeah, there were some

absolutely insane moments in that finals match. But UH, going back to the first round with Marvelous and Donna Delmondo. This is besides Tecumia Roja, who was you know, featured in the Five Star Grand Prix. Uh, this is my first time seeing the other other Marvelous girls. Marvelous is a I guess I would call a struggling promotion UH in Japan at the time, and they're over here working to try to, uh, you know, gain some notoriety back for their home company. And I thought that they all

looked good. You know, I was my first time seeing them. Uh. Maria did a ton of cool flying submissions, and I thought they all came off well, even in losing to you know, Donna Delmondo, who you had to imagine was gonna move on to the finals here being the champions UH, and then Stars and Cosmic Angels. As you said, it was kind of an upset, UH, with Stars pulling out

the victory. The way that they worked the entire match, it seems as if the team of Cosmic Angels Unagi Saka Mina Shurakawa and tam Nakodo, Uh, we're going to pull it out. But in the end there was a roll up by Hazuki that gave Stars the win, a quick roll up, and they moved on to the finals, um, which we can talk about now, Mike. You know, so felt like Mina Shirakawa was was in for that entire

match now in the in the the finals too. And this is one way they kind of regulated the ladder match was that they did have to have tags in

and out. And even though that there was you know, help when he came to basing the ladder and there were still spots with people all over the place, like they seemed to try to regulate it that way, but like with the you know, with the semifinals, it was just you know, kind of people going in and out, and it was it just kind of seemed like, you know, even though she was looking like she was going to get the win there for a while, she felt like

sheer Cowo was never tagged out. People came in and out, but she was actually the official participant the entire time before she ended up the uh howsak howsak stral cradle from House Good that ended up giving him the surprise finish and got him the win and into the finals. And as you mentioned, I thought the finals again, that ladder and some of the spots that were that took

place were incredible. Uh, Micah the superplex off the ladder, which a Nakano and I liked how it was those two were the first ones to do a big spot because not gon O arguably the most experienced. I'm sorry you were Tony one of the best. I keep doing this, one of the best women's wrestlers in the world, Micah, who was a very strong based and able to pull something like that off. Again, ladder set up in the

corner came off. It was a It looked impressive from the camera angle, but was not out of control, but looked really really impressive. Now, Mike, Mike, isn't the whole story between Tam Nakano and my it was Tanny is that she can't get out of her shadow. Isn't that? Isn't that it? Am? I Am I missing something here? Well, you can't even I'm being on this show. I'm sorry, Okay,

my apologies, But so it was Tonny. Look, it was Tonny then got her revenge with a moon salt off the top of that ladder and that, I tell you what, they had, uh kicked Micael off and and all of a sudden, all three women were on top of her and beating her down, and it was Tonny climbed up to the top of that ladder. The other two we were holding it for. But the moon salt and again the camera angle off of that was so incredibly impressive looking. I thought that was to me, that was the best

looking move of the match. It isn't maybe the most spectacular dangerous. That may have come a little bit later on with Kaguma's dive, but I thought that was easily the spot of the match. Yeah. I mean, if you're gonna check out some gifts, or if you're gonna see clips of this or see some spots, it's definitely going to be the big Micah superplex, which she paid four and was eliminated quickly afterwards. It's gonna be the Mayu

iutani um moonsault off this very very tall ladder. And then we had Nott's a poy dive onto everybody from the post and wipe everybody out, which you know you kind of expect from her at this point, and to be fair. And this is you know, I'm not calling out anybody's weight in wrestling for any read, but Natsu point also probably weighs eighty four pounds. I'm not sure

what she's build at, but yeah, she's the smallest. I look at their weights when they put them up there, and I believe they put Tommy hash and Sheet at sixty four kilos, which is like barely over one thirty. And she is, you know, one of the big her females out there. I mean, she's no jumbo princess um, but what is except except for him maka uh. And then what I would actually called the most dangerous and you ad you know, alluded to it earlier, was the

spot where Koguma walked up the ladder. They have the ladder in the ring. It's super high. Now, granted, everybody set up on the outside ready to catch her for this dive. But Koguma is not very tall, She's not very big, and seeing her, she's built like a bowling ball. Her her tiny body leap off of this ladder to the floor was death defying for everyone involved. And it

was awesome. It was it was and she and the thing was she hit and and everybody went down, but damned if Mayu and and how it's didn't jump back into the ring so they could then go back and immediately afterwards go diving back out with with dives and to pays to not sup point and Mike in Amica, and it's like, haven't they suffered enough right there? They

just just brutal. But then Cocuma ended up getting eliminated with a lariat and roll up by Jimeica, And then I thought again this closing the story of these two feuding with each other. Jimeica and and actually helped Natsu Poi up off the ground, off the ropes, carried her up the ladder with her and helped be the base for Natsu Poi to undo the briefcase and take that massive By the way, this was not like a small

little briefcase. This was like a massive production uh box that they had up there with the money involved in it. So she ends up getting it down and it looks as though Donna Delmondo has their vacation fund. They sure do, and I can't wait to see if there's gonna be picture books or whatever else they come up with. But this is this is a great tournament. We don't have.

I'm sure we don't have much more time to talk about this show, but we should mention, obviously, the big turn of Momo watton Abe betraying her teammates after fighting alongside them for twenty plus minutes. Betraying her teammates, and like you mentioned, you could see it coming a mile away. A Zumi fought her heart out in this Captain's Fall match to keep Momo watton Abe alive at various points, and then Momo just bashed her with a chair at the end and became the black Peach of Queen's Quest.

And you know, to be fair, I mean, if you watch Momo, if you I view her as a heel, I think she's gonna be much more effective, uh in this role. You know, I didn't really buy her as a as a baby face much, to be fair, So I'm happy with the result, but I guess I can say the way that they got there left me perplexed a little bit. I'd like to see just the quick turn.

If you're gonna do so, you know, why fight for twenty minutes alongside your friends to make it appear like you're not gonna cheat and turn on them when you could just do so right off the bat. Yeah, either that or you do something where you keep everybody away so you build to that one big moment where you don't know what that person is going to do and then they go ahead and make the decision. And this was an elimination match, so you could have done that.

Between Queen's Quest and the Way to Tai, Konami and Hayasheshida eliminated themselves, you know, rather early in the match. Uh Saya Kamatani was then eliminated by Kashima with a roll up, so uh then a Zumi was tagged in. She quickly uh took care of Rwaka and Sashi Kajima. So Momo had the pin on Starlight Kid. And that's where a lot of this, you know, comes back to those two kind of going back and forth at each other.

And the problem with all this is is Starlight Kid is the only mask person in the company right now. She's already had to switch factions this year. She was already announced for the New Japan show. So it's like, as that's going on, you look at Queen's Quest and you see Hya Shahida, and you see Kamiatani and it's like, you know, where does Momo fit in this? So it was really obvious in the direction that they were going, and as you mentioned, twenty minutes way too long. But

they again, the rest of the show was good. If this was the whole base around the whole thing, it would have felt a little bit more disappointing. They couldn't have gotten more creative, but I guess they just kind of booked themselves into a wall that way. Yeah, And like I said, I mean, the result is the right one. You talked about Starlight Kid, Uh, you know, moving over and being a heel on the side of Queen's Quest. And there's absolutely no reason to turn her back, baby face.

She has been phenomenal in this role as both high speed champion and kind of the de facto leader of Queen's Quest at this point with the other with their real leader out. But um that yeah, I don't think there was even a choice and turning her back and now you'll have both her and Momo kind of at the top of that faction, uh, waiting for the return of their leader. And uh, you know, like I said, the right result. I probably would have gone a different way to get there, but we have a big pay

per view coming up. We've got match on Wrestle Kingdom on the actual show, this time coming from Stardom, So some big things coming out of Japan. Although Joshi side, I'm just really happy that looks like we're also gonna get more Cosmic Angels and Donna Delmando action because those are my two favorite factions, and I'm completely fine with

everything and anything that takes place there. And with a less than a minute or so to go in this broadcast, I guess I will mention that Tonight's Raw is going to be on the USA Network. They were in Milwaukee and this don't blame me for this, folks. This was put up on the website yesterday, another week advanced for this show. They were doing two for ones in the market, including pushing two for ones at Saturday nights Milwaukee's Bucks Game.

It was apparently w w E Night there with pre tape segments including Drew McIntyre, Biggie, Bobby Flashley, and Live Morgan. They have announced a bunch of matches for tonight, Bianca bell Air and dew Drop, and a rematch Damian Priest Dolph Ziggler in a non title match Finn Balor and Austin Theory set up last week when Theory didn't impress Vince.

So now we've got this and then the Mysterios against aj Styles and Almost, so we do get to have Ray Mysterio Jr. And Almost in the same ring at the same time, cutting Edge with Maurice and some other stuff as well too. We'll put a bow on this thing we get back from break. Filthy Tom and I Wrestling Server Alive remembers back on the show Mike Simper viv In for Brian Alvers this week here on Wrestling Observer Live. Filthy Tom Lawler with me today. We had

a lot of stuff to get into. We had ai W, we had New Japan Strong, we had stardom, we had last Legend. But one thing we are going to have to get into tomorrow is not Monday Night Raw. Actually we're probably gonna have to get into a little bit

of Monday Night Raw. But there is g c W from this past weekend that I'm going to have to speak upon, including Matt Cardona and Chelsea Green quitting Game Changer Wrestling embarrassed themselves once again in a loss to Bussy My God getting getting pile driven and pinned and then being buried under a big, sloppy dog pile of bussy. Can you imagine such a thing? Filthy? Well, not from those two exact participants, but I may have been there

once or twice in my life. Uh. Cardona and Chelsea Green leaving g c W not the only ones out of a job. We also failed to mention Paul Hayman being fired at the hands of Roman Reigns on SmackDown, the most watched wrestling television show uh on the planet actually, which we didn't really cover here much of today. But oh, maybe that was the wrong statement, because it seems as if he's back in the good graces of brock Lessner, who came to help him afterwards, laying out both the

USOS and Roman Reigns. Roman Reigns beating him down with a chair, him walking through it, and just like Paul Hayman, it looks like we're gonna be out. Mike, thank you for being an advocate for me in the same way that Paul is for that big giant overalled man brock Lessners. Brock Lesner, Roman Reigns. It's the only match anybody wants, and we're gonna continue on with it and looks like Brock Lesner Paul Hayman back together as the way things should be. Who knows, Polpi and I may be back

together tomorrow. I don't know. He's definitely gonna be here again this week, I can promise you that, and sooner or later we're gonna find out what the hell happened to Gregg the Hammer Valentine who was supposed to be here to right Mike Simper VV filthy, Tom Russey Reserver a live talk to you again after a while. You have been listening to the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network

Transcript source: Provided by creator in RSS feed: download file
For the best experience, listen in Metacast app for iOS or Android