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Well we're back here on the show. Brian Alvarez here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike simpervv also Wrestling Observer dot com, and old filthy Tom Lawler is here. We got a lot to talk about today, and uh, I done got set off, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fight, not gonna fight today, So we'll just talk about other stuff for a while. Oh no, no, no, no, no no no, I'm not doing it right now. We've got bigger things to talk about, like, uh, Tom, I hear your your h What are you now now that you've

Like?

What are you now? You team with? You teamed and faced Hakoo King hack Coo this weekend.

Yes, I did. I w wrestling Saturday night in Akron, Ohio. I was set to face King Haku. We were gonna find out who the toughest man in wrestling history really is. And I got in there with him, and unfortunately, some scrubs Tyson ready.

I mean unfortunately this sounds like fortunately.

Well it was pretty cool too, but after about a minute we were interrupted and we were challenged. We were challenged. They said you know what the guy said? He said, who booked Suzuki Butterbean two.

Wow, wow.

If you guys, so, you guys should take me and my partner on if you're mad enough. And me and King Haku were like, oh boy, are we ever.

See who booked this?

John Thorn?

John Thorn, Yes of AIW Wrestling, Hi w.

John, Listen, if you're listening to me, you made a big mistake, brother, because like when they when they said that who booked Butterbean versus Zuki two? And then they challenged Haku and Filthy Tom to a match under no circumstances should that have happened the same night that should have been booked for the next show in the main event. I literally would have bought a ticket. I would have flown there to watch it.

Like god, Oh, Haku and I beat up, took out, destroyed, decimated, annihilated, Tyson, Riggs and Kaplan once again a caplin falls at the hands. Yes, and then King Hakou and I put up the fingers. We gave each other the too sweet to signify that not only is nWo for life, so was the Bullet Club. And then I threw up the one.

Wow we go.

Three factions in one night?

Yeah?

Handle well the one the one was for Jimmy Hart's first family.

Was that those family? I got it?

Wow?

I got it all four?

How about that?

All right?

Well, I wish I'd been there for that, Tom, I wish I'd been there, But you know you and I man, we got a big date coming up for a podcast with with Kurt Angle, don't we?

Yeah?

Live show with Kurd Angle, Spokane, Washington at the Northern Quest Casino, May seventeenth, I believe, just two days after my upcoming forty second birthday.

Wow, what yeah?

What a better way to spend it than hanging out with Brian Alvarez, the esteemed Brian Alvarez and gold medalist who won it with a broken freaking neck her Angle.

It's gonna be awesome and it is gonna be awesome.

Wow.

Well, anyway, that sounds really exciting, and we do have to talk about since I know Mike of course has a big audio nightmare, Tom is on the stardom beat, we got to talk about the end of the crewer. Don't think you can say that, Well, we haven't for a while, but for a while we did the the end of Tam Knockano's career.

Tom, Yes, sad I guess. I mean these Joe, She's seem to have a shorter life span as far as their inn ring time goes than most of the other styles and competitors around the world. So it's not, you know, uncharacteristic for somebody to go out while they're relatively at the top. But you know, tam Knockano has been around for a while, and you know, now's the time. Now's the time for her to leave. She's retired. But I mean she's not the only person gone from stardom. Oh oh,

Yeah, and then who's going to be doing some dates in America?

And then also it was announced Mayu Iwaitani, who fell to shury the greatest female wrestler of all time, lost the IWGP Woman's title to her. And now we'll be departing stardom as well. She's been there since the very first show in boy, can we fact check this twenty eleven? Maybe?

And uh now now she'll be gone, Mike A.

NAT's it's an end of an era in a lot of ways. It's gonna be interesting to see what Mayui Watani does. Obviously she's got a relationship with rossi Ogawa in the Mari Gold promotion, but it's going to be interesting to see if she has gotten all of branches extended from the United States. There's been talk about her following Kyrie saying and in Eo Sharai to WWE AW I would be sure would have some interest in her

You know, last night Dave said that Mautani might end up in WE or AW and a lot of people got mad. I don't know it's going to be Mary Gold. It could be Mary Gold. It could but you know what, WWE and AW are paying a lot of money right now, a lot of money, and they would both want her, and I do not think that that is out of the question at.

All, Brian, if I were a company trying to make inroads into other areas like it seems like WWE is willing to do at this point. You know, they've already worked with Marigold in the past, so you know, would it really be out of you know, out of character for my Ewaitani to be working for WWE but also beyond these big Marigold shows, And the same could be said for Decla Dekla is oh boy, Hungarian. Maybe she's

But from Madan is where she's from.

Mike, That's not a real place. I know there's a lot of former Eastern Bloc countries with bizarre names, but that is not a real place. She's European of some nature.

Okay, thank you.

God, I know what did you all the time? He has a stickler for facts.

God, sorry to throw you off. Good start today, guys, Tom, you.

Don't even know where she's from.

You guess from she's from Europe?

God? Anyway, what's your point.

Well, they're they're trying to get it to Europe as well.

Well yeah, sure Austrian.

Sorry Austrian. Had they used to be the same country, My bad.

Yeah, supports. As Maya was mentioned in the past, she dealt with homesickness in the past when she visited the US. Well, I'm sure she did. But you know you mentioned, you mentioned Austria. You know who else is from Austria? Gunther and uh and for years when he was Walter, he also was homesick and said he would never he would never move and uh and then one day he did and that was the end of that. So things change, guys,

So yeah, it gonna be a lot disappointed Japanese wrestling fans. And I'm sure Adam and I when we do the big Audio Nightmare tomorrow and talk about this. I brought this up before about guys coming over here where you know, it feels like Japanese baseball and American baseball now because America can pay so much, to such a ridiculous degree that there's gonna be a lot of people who end up leaving New Japan and all of these other promotions, maybe a lot earlier than their fans really want them to.

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Trying to hold in my frustration.

All right, give me at least a genre. What has.

It's uh, but I'm moving on here. I don't want to get in this fight. It's wasting my time. It makes people mad.

So what else do we got?

Hey?

Raw is tonight, Rhea Ripley versus Roxanne Perez. We got Seth Paul and Braun Breaker appearing as part of their new faction. Pad McPhee will address the attack by Gunther, which I presume sets of a match, and Becky Lynch will address the attack on Lyra Valcy as I like to call her. That's coming up tonight, and then tomorrow is NXT with Ricky Saints versus Lexus King for the North American title, Hank and Tank versus Briggs and Ina Mura,

I hope Hank and Tank are ready because they're going to get hit really hard.

Oh, they're ready. You don't think they're gonna hit, They're gonna hit.

Yeah, I'll tell you what does it hit? According to Stacks, and that's Tony D's mom's risotto.

Oh that's fighting words.

That of my Wednesday has got Hangman Page versus Kyle Fletcher and the Owenehart Foundation Tournament's semifinals, which should be great. We got Every time I read this all star eight man tag I immediately think of like nineteen eighty nine Survivor series. We got Kenny Omega, Speedball, Mark Brisco and Kevin Knight against the Young Bucks, Okada and Ricochet.

If we had to give these teams and names, what would they be?

I don't know.

I have to think about that for you.

Omega's onslaught against you know, the Bucks.

Versus the speed Balls. Don't know, Tony Storm will less you a title eliminator open challenge. I can't imagine who might accept that. Hurt Syndicate will appear live and MGF will appear live, probably together. But they've listened that as two different segments. So that's the lineup for the next couple of days.

There, Ramis, that's what sticked you off.

No, it's nothing like that. Okay, it's people arguing with me about common sense. Okay, I'm trying not to lose it here. God alright, I'm trying to just like talk about something else, So I forget about it, Okay. Raymonds sterio surgery to repair the injury that force and miss Mania forty one. So I thought it was as groin. It was actually as abductor, which is near your groin. I've been told. So he tore it. He's gonna be

Well, we now know why aj Francis played defensive line at the University of Maryland instead of a tight end because he's the biggest guy in the middle of that pile of men who was supposed to catch him and oops a little seven ten split there. I'm gonna ask both of because Brian, I know you have kind of pushed back against this in the past, but dives from a certain height, especially coming down doing four fifties on top of somebody. Cody Hall, Scott Hall's son did get

Okay, listen, I'll explain this.

Tell me why this is not insane.

Well, i'll tell you it is insane a minute. But I spent too much time on Bryan and Vinnie last night because I was formulating these things in my head. I have a much easier way to explain it now.

Okay, all right.

If you're jumping off something high, okay, where there's an added danger to it because of the height, all right, you cannot do a vertical dive onto people standing vertically, Okay, because what happened is it's just like you know whatever now I'm seeing now I'm making.

It too force.

No, it's it's you're you're facing the same direction that everyone else is facing, so you can just slide right through them. It happens on Moon Salts, it happens on as i Ez, It happens on Fourth. Anytime where you're rotating on the vertical plane and people are standing vertically, you can like you can miss them. If you want to jump off something really high, you need to dive horizontally onto people standing vertically. Then it's impossible to not

More than ever. Now people hit that moon salt and split people.

Well they land on their feet now because they know they're not going to be caught, right because it's really hard to catch that way.

So anyway, well, also the angle he was going at was not conducive to catching anybody. No, staying safe. No, as well. You know, like if you're jumping off of a structure, you're not going straight down. You're usually running and jumping, you know what I mean. So you're clearing a greater distance and you're not coming at somebody from the top at the top of their head. You're coming at them where you could.

See the person.

You know.

This was just dangerous on all all.

Yeah, the easiest catch makes it sick. Yeah. The easiest catch is when you and your opponent are at ninety degree angles, so you're vertical they come at you horizontally, or you're horizontal and they come at you vertically or whatever. You never see a splash where like one guy's feet are facing the turnbuckles and then you jump off and you squish them like this. You would never see that be stupid.

Yeah, I don't want to give too much away, but a lot of times, if I'm gonna catch somebody on a moon salt, you know, I'll ask this person where do you want me to be? Do you want me to catch you or do you want me to like shoot underneath you so that you land over the top of me and like smack on my shoulders. And it seems as if nowadays that's the preferred method because people cannot you know, you can't rely on somebody else to catch you.

Well, think about what the old moon salt even used to be. It used to be you would stand facing away from your opponent and when you jumped, you would kind of like, you know, if they were gonna catch you standing, you would jump and twist and would kind of be like a high cross. It wasn't. And if you were, if you were gonna do it onto the mat, you would be you know, you would do it normal

My was so bad.

There's things I couldn't do, he said. Is One of his final matches was Okada on October tewod Dynamite. The rules were Ocatta's Continental championship was on the line for just the first twenty minutes. He said, the story should be I'm pushing, pushing, pushing, trying to get the fall downe in the first twenty minutes, but my legs couldn't do it. So that was the point where I was like, I'm not physically able to do some of the things I should that this story requires me to do. He

More whysically, emotionally, You're a little.

Crooked in a lot of ways. But I mean, golly, when we were hanging out in Vegas, I was like, this guy looks like he's hurting.

He needs to go. What's the person you go to?

It's not a chiro, Well he should start with just a chiropractor and just try to like get straight.

And then you've seen the witch doctor before, No, you haven't.

He'd take one look at you and he'd be like, I don't know, man, I don't know. Do you have one of those Oh yeah, you did show me. You showed me your kids thing outside where you hang upside down?

Yeah, You're like, oh, do you have the structure gimmick, the backstretching gimmick by his legs? Right?

All? Yeah?

Does it help?

I don't think anybody wants to hear about this.

You mean you don't want to talk about it? Yeah, okay, just trying to help. Hul Cogan and Eric Bischoff are allegedly reuniting for a new project with a mystery third man. Why did I start this?

At this point?

I could talk about this for hours. Okay. First off, it's probably like a podcast or something. There's no way they're trying to start a wrestling promotion, like it's just number one, you know, Come on, Houlkin and Bischoff starting a wrestling promotion. The very idea is preposterous. But I mean even if, like even if they had Vince McMahon along with him and he had all this money, It's like, where are you gonna get talent? You know what I'm saying?

Whatever.

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Here on the show, Brian Alvarez here, Oh, I see what happened.

Yeah.

Tom doesn't want me to make any mention of anything, so uh, I won't. All right, We're back here on the show, Brian, Mike Simpervie. There's always there's always what's the mystery?

Oh, people don't want to talk about anything, do they?

No.

I want to talk about some stuff, but I'm not gonna maybe maybe later this week. Maybe later this week.

You know, you know what it is, Go ahead, you know what it is.

It's like I really want AW to succeed, and like I see these things that happen all the time, and like they're little things that add up. But I always bang heads with these absolute hardcore AW fans who want like nothing to change, Like everything is fine and everything is good, and why do we need this is a big one. Why do we need video packages? It's okay for the announcer to just say something, I don't want

Yeah?

All right, because I was arguing about why we needed video packages for like, you know, RAPONGI Vice apparently like they reunited and turned heel and like, I missed one show. I have no idea what's going on? And he says, for God's sake, use your TV time to reward your viewers who are watching, not to catch up the people who I may have missed the show because it was WrestleMania week. Okay, bro, come on listen. First off, that's

That's it.

Why is this even an argument. There's a reason that WWE now is significantly larger than they were in twenty nineteen. They didn't just please the fans they had in twenty nineteen. In twenty nineteen, they were losing fans hand over fist. So they found a way to not only replace the fans that they lost, but also create new fans on

That doesn't seem ideal? And you know what, Rocky and Trend are back together. There were pong Ice. Maybe you ought to explain that to everybody who is.

Yeah, you know how many people have never even heard of her Pongkivice.

A lot look Kenny Omega and Kazuchko Okada. For a lot of people who never saw Kazuchko Okada in New Japan, they cannot look at him in his aw form and get the fact that he was one of the great wrestlers I frankly of all time. And frankly, Omega and Okada together and New Japan were did amazing things. Like you may need to explain this backstory a lot more. Otherwise it's just this guy who is a complete cartoon who drops you know, the B word constantly. It's like,

See, I watched that TNA pl e. I went live over Wrestlmingia weekend, went to TNA. I had a good time at a fun time. The next day, Joe Hendry shows up at WrestleMania and whatever you think about the whole thing, it's like, wow, you know there's a TNA World Champion on WrestleMania. And so like this week over the weekend, you know, me, Vine and Craig, all of us were like, man, let's watch that TNA pay per view. Okay,

Sorry, needed to be said. It needed to be said, boss. These people need to know.

Enough said.

How'd you like SmackDown, Tom? You're a Smackdow reviewer.

I thought it was a really good show.

I mean that main event five stars, if you ask me, that was pretty awesome.

TLC match between the Street Profits DIY and MotorCity machine Guns off the charts.

And no commercials, not even I will yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anyways, I watched it, you know, start to finish, and it was fantastic, Like I said, but it wasn't overly dangerous, you know what I mean. Sometimes some of these matches rely on stuff that is just so over the top and violent, and this was not one of those. This was creative. It hit all the right spots at the right times. And I think it's, you know, one of the god one of the best tag matches of the year. You don't think it's, Brian, Is this up there with

Oh It's like, who's the speed jet?

I got it.

Yeah, that was a great match, that Young Bucks match. But you know what, you know, there was one difference between the the Young Bucks match and that TLC match. I like the aw commentary team a lot, but holyokes, this Joe Testitur. I told you, bro, I told you. Hey, listen, people think I won't admit I was wrong. Man, I was wrong, Dude. I thought, oh my god, here we are bringing another guy from outside of wrestling. He has a sports background. They've done this countless times. They come

Jiminey Christmas, you know, is this the strongest commentary team they've had.

Bottom Definitely in a long time, I would say, But really.

Your bench is essentially Corey Graves in NXT, who was fantastic at what he does. I mean, you know, you see where they're at.

Yeah, he's he's something else, dude. And there's like no bad commentators. Some people will say Booker t but like he entertains me. He's not the sole commentator. He's he's like he's color commentary. What's color commentary supposed to be? Brings some color to the show. I got a guy calling all the moves and everything like that and telling the stories, and then you got Booker saying shucky ducky quack quack here and there. It makes me laugh, makes

Which is what you want out of these guys. Like there's people that don't like Joe tessitur doing football, college football and other things, but that's Gus Johnson is another person who's a lightning rod. But you're also not going to watch the game because they're on there. Pat McAfee can be really annoying sometimes and maybe you know, it's we'll see how it goes with the gun. Third thing, maybe they should give him some time off, you know, before he comes back. But it's break time back in.

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In the show, Brian Albarez here Wrestling Observer Alive, Lance texta he goes, I just watched a Bosh Legacy on Amazon as a streaming series. Nobody is watching episode four without seeing episode one. However, they do a previously on recap before every episode just to remind you of important stuff on the previous show because people with a life can't remember everything.

Yes, yeah, yeah, some people shade, but it's true.

Guess what they do before every single fight in the UFC They show you a little recap about the guy because more than likely you don't know who the hell they are if throw on the undercard.

Yeah, but it helps a lot.

It does help a lot. Tom, what do you got coming up?

Hello?

Yes, May tenth MLW in Chicago sold out, so if you don't have your tickets yet, you're probably not gonna be there The next day, May eleventh, Asbury Park, New Jersey. I'm taking on the one called Manders for the wx W title for JCW Jersey Championship Wrestling the following week aiw Wrestling at the Globe in Cleveland, and then the day after that, Brian, it's you and me and.

Kurt Angle.

That's right, that's right. We'll be plugging that more in the next couple of weeks, but if you're in the Spokane area, make sure you grab your tickets. And now a live podcast with myself Filthy for Daily with Kurt Angle everything. I'd say it all right, We got to wrap it up, everybody, but I'll be back later on tonight with Dave, David and I were up last night and a Brian Davinian Craig show talking to TNA pay per view. Lots of up there, more coming up tonight,