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Rampage/Smackdown/Ring of Honor Spoiler

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Bryan recaps the weekend with updates from Rampage, Smackdown, and a Ring of Honor spoiler.

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Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready, let's get it all. How's going everybody? Brian Alvarez here on or Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern Sunday three Pacific, sixth Eastern. We have not talked to you since Friday,

and boys, a lot of stuff happened since Friday. We had the Rampage Show, we had the SmackDown Show, we had Battle of the Belt, we got a line up for Raw tonight. We had an update on Sasha Banks who injured her knee at a house show taping. We have got to the announcement of the return of a Ring of Honor exactly as they had stated. They will be returning April first for Supercard of Honor. And we actually have a ton of details on what the relaunch

of a Ring of Honor is going to entail. Obviously, if you have not heard, uh spoiler alert here, there was a Ring of Honor championship change that just occurred, and we'll tell you everything we know about that. So if you don't want impact spoilers. I'll give you a warning before we talk about it, but we'll talk about that. There was an injury had the Impact taping is Luckily the news is good. The former Tom Phillips is debut

for Impact Wrestling. Tom Phillips was great at his job, but he was released by w E. Now he appears to be replacing Matt Striker in Impact Wrestling. We've also got to the results of SmackDown, the results of Rampage, the results of Battle of the Belts, everything going forward there and plenty more if you'd like to Texas here today. The number four to seven eight zero seven five six six. That is four to five seven eight zero seven five six six Bryan at Wrestling Observed dot Com is email

at Bran Alvarez is the text message. I'm sorry, that's the that's the Twitter handle I'm on Twitter. Did you know at Brian Alvarez. If you've never got up there, it's always fun to go up there on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and Thursdays. But anyway, that's how you can contact me here today. We'll talk about all of the news when we come back from the break and check it out back in the moment of the super live. This whole wall needs to be shelving to. This is a

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Observer Live. Mike sim Pervidi also Wrestling Observer dot com. Just celebrating my twenty one month anniversary subscribing to my own Twitch. Did you know you can subscribe with your Amazon Prime account? You guys have Prime, I think everyone has Prime in the middle of this pandemic. But you get a free sub every month with your Amazon Prime subscription. All you have to do is is head up to Twitch. I think you have to do on a desktop computer.

But you hit subscribe down there at the bottom, and then there's a little box that says use Prime subscription and you click it and you can. You can sign up to Twitch basically for free. You pay nothing, it's part of your your Prime and then we obviously get support from your subscription, and then you don't have to watch the Uh they're really dumb commercials. Only the dumb commercials that we put up me wrestling in etcetera. So, and also you get on pay per view Sundays if

you're a Twitch subscriber, not a freeloader. The subscribers get the post pay per view recaps. Uh, they can watch it though. So after the Royal Rumble this month, we'll be going live for the Twitch subscribers. So why would you not watch it live and free if you can just use your Prime subscription. So go up there, use your Amazon Prime sign up and enjoy the fun everybody. So here's the news, got a lot of it. It's actually not all bad news for once. I mean the

worst news is it ROS tonight. Maybe it'll be good. Who knows. We got Bianca bell Air, Live Morgan and Do drop in a three way uh for a raw women's title opportunity at Royal Rumble. According to w W dot com, we got Alexa Blisses journey back to rab begins. Can't wait for that. And RK Brow will defend the raw take team titles against the Alpha Academy. So two matches announced. I presume they'll both take place, but that's

a foolish presumption because many times that doesn't happen. And they also announced that Sasha Banks will be out of action. Here's what it says. Six to eight weeks after suffering a foot injury at a live event in Fayetteville, North Carolina. It says after seeking emergency medical attention, it was determined and nothing was broken. Sasha underwent an m r I it was discovered she has a bruised calcineus bone. I think only women have a calcineus bone. I'm not aware

of having one myself. She is at home recovering and undergoing, like how a dude as an Adams Apple but a woman doesn't. She is expected to be out of action for six to eight weeks w W WE announced, which, of course, if that's true, that means she will not be in the Women's Royal Rumble and why do they need women? So you know, do I think she's gonna be back at the rumble? Is a big surprise? Yes? Is that confer? Absolutely not? Will she likely miss it?

Who knows? That's what they're claiming, So I guess we'll see what happens. But I think they have nineteen women announced for a thirty woman Royal Rumble, And boy, if you see the list of women that they have for this royal Rumble, where in God's name are they gonna get eleven other women? Do you want to hear the lineup? Somebody dm me on Twitter and said, hey, do you think there's going to be some surprises that take place

in the Rumble? And just by math, yes, of course there already is one for those of you who somehow stayed under a rock all weekend as Brian goes through these names and maybe a little bit of a surprise to you. All right, So this is the lineup for the thirty woman a Royal Rumble, and this is this is nineteen. Look who we've got and they're they've got nineteen.

We got real ripley Nikki. This is Nikki a s h Nicky ash Aaliyah who has not been seen since she vomited all over self, Naddy and Shana summer Ray is back for the Royal Rumble to Mina, Dana Brook, Kelly Kelly, Naomi, Carmela, Zelina, Michelle McCool who's living life. Both of the Bella Twins. Remember when Nicki said that she was prom Nicki didn't interview, said her neck is such a disaster she can never have another match again. Now they've announced both Bella's for the Royal Rumble Leta

and uh. Coming in at number nineteen is Mickey James, who they build and who is still the Impact Wrestling Women's Champion. That is your lineup for the Women's Royal Rumble. And now they have to come up with eleven more women for this Royal Rumble. So oh and Charlotte. Charlotte also so declared, hyah, so that's is that eleven more with or without Charlotte. It might be only ten more with Charlotte, but I'm not bothering the account. They have many more to add. Three of them will probably very

likely be I would assume toxic attraction. Right. Well, all I was told and you know, you know, when you're told something by w W E, it's like you know you can report it, but what what you're told yesterday is not the same as what actually happens often. But I was told that they didn't really want to use a lot of n x T women. That's probably changed by now is they have eleven women remaining, and uh, we're already down to the Kelly Kelly's and etcetera. So well,

I say, who are they going to use? Diana Parrazzo? And they got Mickey, So maybe we'll have more more impact women involved a lounder a blaze, but a lot of women remaining would surprised me. Actually, person notes Molly here, yet they could call Molly Chelsea Green. No, no, that

won't be happening, Gail Kim, absolutely not. That won't be happening now alright, So the other there's actually a lot of big news today, But one of the other big stories today is yes, as we have been stating for months now, and as a lot of people do not believe, Ring of Honor is in fact relaunching over WrestleMania weekend, they made the announcement today. Supercard of Honor is taking place on Friday, April one at the Curtis cole Well

Center in Garland, Texas. Take us for the annual pay per view EXTRAVAGANZAA on sale Friday January one at eleven Eastern for Honor Club members Friday January for the general public. No matches have been announced for Supercard of Honor yet, so this is this is the working plan, okay, And this is a spoiler by the way, for the Impact tapings, Rock c is no longer the Ring of Honor Women's

champ you. She was defeated by Dianna Parazzo. And uh the story is that, as we had noted, Ring of Honor is going to be a glorified independent promotion with television. So uh p W g A g c W. They're essentially gonna use who is available to run shows and they are going to put those shows on television. That's that's part one of the plan. At this point, Roxy has not signed with anybody, but the presumption is she

probably ain't gonna be available in April. She's got another w w E tryout camp coming up, a w who knows, maybe they'll make an offer for her, but the feeling is it's unlikely that she's gonna be available. So therefore they took the title off of her two because I think they figured that Dianna will be available in April. Dianna, they must have some sort of agreement with um Impact or whatever, whatever the situation is, they feel they're gonna be able to use Dianna come April. So Dianna is

the current Ring of Honor Champion. There were a whole bunch of belts in Ring of Honor, and going forward they're largely gonna book three belts. They're gonna book the Ring of Honor Men's title, the Ring of Honor Women's title, the Ring of Honor tag team titles, so six man titles, pure title. I know Jonathan Gresham is out there with the pure title as well, but I don't want to

say those belts are like fully retired. But Ring of Honor is gonna be focusing on men's women's tag and so what's gonna happen is you've been seeing Jonathan Gresham working elsewhere defending the the Ring of Honor titles. See Diana Parrazzo do the same thing, and uh same with the tag team titles. And the agreement that Ring of Honor has with all of these other promotions is, let's say that you know, you see a Ring of Honor,

uh tag team championship match at g CW. Ring of Honor has the rights to the footage of their tag team championship match or whatever match in other promotions. Doesn't mean exclusive rights, but if the Briscoes defend the tag team titles in g c W, Ring of Honor can

use that footage on their television shows. So basically, from now until Supercard of Honor, if you watch the Ring of Honor television show, you're gonna see championship matches from all different promotions because the Ring of Honor has the right to use those matches on their television show. And then obviously come Supercard of Honor, you'll see you know, matches from there and the tapings on the television show, and uh, the champions are essentially gonna be touring World Champions.

So we'll talk more about this after the break back in a Moment of er her Life. The show Bright Nowver is here Wrestling Observer Live miximber viv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. So I don't know what the future is for the uh six men pure television titles, etcetera. I mean, they may they may have to return them, they may just float around the indies and whoever's champions just books some side. I don't know what they're gonna do.

But the three that they're going to focus on our men's, women's in tag and touring World Champions is noted, So they'll go all over the place defend those titles. Ring of Hunter gets to use the footage for television. Ring of Honor shoots their own television and pay per views, and uh that's the future at this point of a Ring of Honors. So first big show coming back will be as noted, the Supercard of Honor on April one in Garland at Texas. Yeah, what do you need all

those belts for? You know, in the situation that they're in, you could argue that they don't even need a women's title, although because of the way they're going to be set up now, the women's division might actually thrive and that belt actually might get a lot more shine on it because you are able to bring in people from outside and you don't have to worry about acquiring a roster that they were attempting to do and all that sort of stuff, so you can bring in somebody, you know,

as much money Sinclair is gonna want to throw at people, and I think this is the best case scenario for Ring of Honor. Obviously, what the wrestling side wanted, Sinclair could only give them so much as far as being able to flood them with money and production and all these sorts of things. You know that limitation, especially production wise, has been there since day one when it comes to getting the equipment and having really what these guys want to use, and they were only going to make it

so far. So in this crazy environment that we're in, they need to concentrate on Honor Club, make sure people sign up for it, give people, get them excited for that possibility, getting excited for these weekend pay per views that they're going to be doing. What is going to be interesting or is going to be how the rest of the landscape spins around Ring of Honor. When they decide we're going to have this weekend and we're gonna watch it for fry Day and Saturday or however that's

going to work. How there's so many other promotions that now run Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. There's so much going on. It'll be interesting to see who they are able to draw in. But as far as I'm I know, and I could be dead wrong about this, Brian, maybe you have some insight on it. Chris Hero is still there.

There are other people that are still there who certainly have a cache in this business, certainly love pro wrestling and certainly want to see Ring of Honor succeed and understand that, even with its limitations, having Sinclair behind you and having those resources are a massive, massive help. This person says, Roah better pay up if they're going to be using people's footage in syndication, Bro, what do you think they're gonna be What do you think they're gonna

be paying for this? Number One, if you're if you're g c W, you get to promote that the Ring of Honor champions defending its championship on your show, and then g CW is getting syndicated all over the country with tons of You think they're not gonna say where it's at. Well, like they're gonna plug GCW. They'll probably plug their next show. I mean, this works out great for everybody. No one's turning this idea down because they're not getting paid huge money if the footage is used

on on television. No, and we already saw F E and A. J. Gray show up to face the Briscoes on r O H TV and they they benefited from that. We've seen the Briscoes. This was a couple of years ago, right after the hurricane in Puerto Rico, when every I mean it was it's still awful down there, especially forget about the wrestling scene. But you know w W c ran their anniversary show that Briscos went down there for that. That footage ended up on on Ring of Honor TV.

So again it's a little bit of a different example, but there's gonna be a lot of give and take here, especially for groups like say The Fire or you know, yes, if I has got a channel on Pluto, they absolutely

have that. Unfortunately, the visibility is not there. Ring of Honor, you know, you can debate how many people watch it and all this sort of stuff, but because of the way it's syndicated out, because there's still the possibility of getting a lot of viewers for a out of these smaller groups even impact you know, it's not necessarily a bad thing to have your name mentioned on TV like that.

First and ever wants to know if I know if a Ring of Under is going to use original commentary for shows from other promotions or if they'll do their own commentary. Actually, I don't know. I don't know what's going on right now. I will try to answer some of these questions later on, but that's uh, that's all I know at this exact moment. I'll try to figure out more about like Josh Woods peer title, like is he the shoot Peer Champion? Right now, I don't know.

We'll see a lot of these belts. I mean, honestly, I if I'm Ring of Honor, I just reeled them back in and look at Chaine Taylor Promotions and look at who you know, whoever's got these belts and go, hey, you know, the time to cash them out. We're gonna put them up into in the offices, and that's it. I mean, you could let the belts linger out there, sell them to somebody. You know, you could sell the rights to have a a trio smatch where those belts get merged and sucked in by Triple A or something

like that. You could absolutely do something like that if you so chose. But realistically, right now, I would honestly just vacate those belts up here. Championship was was basically melded in to the world title. Anyway, the TV title

I think went that direction. They did. They emerged that one already, so I think when it comes to the pure title in the six man titles, you know, it kind of stinks for those guys, But I would say, go ahead and pull them off, and they can walk around any independent promotion and go hey, I was never beat for those belts. We were never beat for those belts. We want to come in. You could always have that

storyline when they go in somewhere. I write a couple of notes from SmackDown because a lot of this plays into the Royal rumble. We had a Lessner Reins confrontation where Paul Hayman started to feel really sad that Roman Reigns had said mean things about him and he almost started crying, and then Brock got mad at Paul Hayman fur it, and so they are still playing up the storyline that maybe maybe Paul would rather be with a Roman than Brock. So this obviously is going to play

out through the the Wrestle Media show. But in the meantime, obviously Brock ledser versus Bobby Lashley at the Royal Rumble and the storyline on SmackDown. I love when his storyline in storyline, the company is incompetent. So in storyline, Adam Pierce gets a call and he's told bro we need a challenger for Roman and Royal Rumble. Find somebody like right now. So you know, Adam Pierce is is on He's on SmackDown and he gets his call, so he tries to find somebody and who does he find, well

a guy not on SmackDown. Roman reigns, So you know that old uh the one time per year that I don't even mention it. But anyway, it's gonna be seth rawlins and Roman reigns and WrestleMania because the SmackDown roster is so like, God bless all the guys. Like I'm a big fan of the individual wrestlers personally, but in terms of like Star Power, SmackDown is dead and you literally had to go to another brand to get somebody to challenge Roman Reigns at the Royal Rumble. So they

did that and Rick Boogs beat Sammy Zane. Sammy Zane is the number one contender to Nakama's belt, so they beat him. Now, you know, stupid as this is, I mean, Shinsky Nakamura has a hand injury, so it looks like he's not gonna be able to fend the title for a little while. That's why he hasn't been wrestling, So I guess it's just something they'll do Sammy Zane and Rick Boogs for a while before Nakamura is back and ready to ready to wrestle. We had Charlotte beating Naomi.

I'll talk more about this match with with Filthy Tom, but it's stupid. I mean, they're they're still building up this this Sonya Deville versus Naomi thing, but like the way they built it up was just dumb. So anyway, Charlotte one namely got screwed again by Sonya Deville. We had Happy Corbin and had Cap Moss beating the Viking Raiders and they got the wind there. And then the street fight, the USOS beat the New Day. They went eighteen minutes. Very good street fight. I don't think it

was as good as the pay per view match. You went eighteen minutes, and uh, the USO's one, which means the New Day can never challenge for the tag titles again as long as the USO's are champion. So what in the world you do with the New Day for the next I don't think they're losing those titles till at least Mania. I would think maybe they'll lose them at the Royal Rumble, but now we've got, you know, uh, the New Day nothing to do on SmackDown. They'll just

be doing whatever. Maybe they can go in a singles run er something, But that was that was big notes out of the SmackDown show on Friday night. So it's not gonna be Happy Corbin and mad Cap Moss battling them. It could be they just got another win. That could be your tag team championship feud, Happy Corbin and mad Cap Moss against the USOS, which, like in the ring, would probably be really good. But it's two heel teams.

You have another baby Face team on this roster that you could plug in against the use so's well the answers, no, that was a rhetorical question. That was the Viking Raiders, but you went ahead and beat them, which reminds me of Raw Tonight, where a couple of weeks ago you just couldn't have had Otis and Chad Gable get victories over Randy Orton. Yeah, Riddles been Riddle on Monday last week. You just pinned him in the middle of the ring

like a geek you have. But two weeks ago before that, you know it was Randy Orton finally got that r k O on Otis and it's like, but he didn't beat him. But the whole and I guess that's the the angle that they're gonna play for this, But the

whole way they set that up was completely ridiculous. When you had three baby Face tag teams that were all in the mix and the one tag team that was sitting on the outside that no matter who won, you know, in that equation they were going to face Cable in Otis and you know that's how they got to it. It's completely ridiculous. And one name that you mentioned as a member of the Women's Royal Rumble is Shana Baslor?

What brand is Shana Basler on? Because I remember she was going to be tapped to attack Naomi or something like that at the forgotten that Where is she? Dude? Forget her? Where's Where's Zia Lee? Who had weeks and weeks and weeks of vignettes then she debuted and we've never seen her again. Yeah, but there's that problem with people that have been called up from n x T like that they get caught in this weird vortex and

and crazy things happen, you know what I mean. Look, look, we're still waiting on Veer to show up on RAW, So God knows where Zialie is right now. Maybe she wants to hang out with Karen Q on the floor of Black Stage. At the next stage, Black Stage, Black Stage like Black Street Listen. Adam Cole and Jake Antless was the opener on Rampage and after finally seeing what happened, just total fluke injury, Jake Antless try to springboard. He landed on two feet and then he couldn't get up anymore.

And Cole goes for the Panama Sunrise and Jake Atlas just dands there and then I'm cold put him in a very very safe leg lock for the submission. It looks like hopefully luckily at Last won't be out too long. So he got the m R I and you know, springboards. Everybody no back in a moment Observer Live. You're listening to wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez and Mike Semperviev

on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. I went to beating Jack Evans took in that match right there during the break. See if Nick Wayne were the size of of Jack Evans in that video, I'd have a match with him tomorrow. Now, Jack Evans is the size of old Shankly, so not happening. It just doesn't work. But he's slowly a boy. Bro,

You've got You've got three times. That's like if you were the zoo and you fell into the lion enclosure and you know, eight hundred pound lion ate you and then so it was like, it's just a baby lion. I don't know how he got eaten. The kids six three for crying out loud, doesn't matter if he's sixteen, scared to death, aren't you. Yeah, He's incredible, by the way. Folks just saw him again last weekend and uh, he hasn't even hit his growth spurt yet. It is amazing.

No he I think he's gonna be nine ft tall. He's six to bro heetaix t. No, he's not gonna end up six twelve. You've seen his father. I can't believe he got this tall. Well, look, you know sometimes these things miss a generation, and maybe he hain't had his growth spurt. May better go that better be number one in the top fifty. May nick Wayne hasn't hit his growth spurt yet. Well, look, he had he his growth spurt. And I know this because it was only a couple of years ago. He was shorter than me.

Now he's twice my height. You know that means he had a growth spurt. Well, you're also shrinking, You're you're old not You gotta remember something. Kevin Garnett, when he was eighteen years old got drafted into the NBA. He ended up growing like two or three more inches and he was like six eleven or whatever the hell he ended up with its seven two or whatever. So I'll tell you what. No, genetics may not be on his side from what we know of his three generations of

professional wrestling in the family, but you never know. You go back to that fourth or fifth and maybe there's a man mountain grizzly there over in the Northwest that that had led to Jack Evans. You never know, Brian, he's a big kid, Jack Evans. Then we had a hook meeting Aaron Solo killed this bloke Hook is uh.

I don't know if you're weare this or not. He's the son of Tazz, so he's a badass shooter that's getting over and everyone's cheering, even though technically he's coming out of that heel tube whatever they call it tunnel, which I guess is a tube which is a very large tube under a pass and Ruby soho and riho.

You know. Weird it is when like years ago, years ago, Craig and I, I'm not sure who else was in the car, maybe Vinny was in the car, but we had gone to the Red Robin and afterwards he had like some Thunderbird or some you know, gimmick eighties muscle fast car or something like that, and he decided he was gonna go really fast to show us how fast it went. And he went really fast right over the slippery railroad tracks and we ended up in the ditch.

And I was telling Paisley the story. I don't know how we got on it, but I was telling her about when Daddy was was younger, you know, Uncle Craig decided he was going to drive like a like an idiot. We ended up in the ditch, and uh, she goes, what's the ditch? And suddenly occurred to me that how would she know what a ditch is? Whatever? Now? And then it's where Daddy's career is hunting, Oh, get out of here. But I I literally had to take her uh the other day and show her what a ditch was.

It was funny because we're walking the side of the road and I pointed at the ditch and I go, you know that is right there. Guess what that is? She goes grass. I said, no, it's not grass. You know what that is right there? She goes a sign. I said, not the sign. You know what that thing is right there? It's a ditch. And her eyes grew wide. She goes, oh, that's where your car was, And I said, well,

not that ditch. But anyway, when you have a kid, you gotta explain what stuff is because you know they're kids. Did you help Brent up? The point of that story was, but it was something I was explaining. Oh, a tunnel is a tube. It's a large tube. Anyway, Ruby, Soho and Riho beat Britt Baker and Jamie Hayder when Jamie Hayter got pinned after some shenanigans with Britt and then Britain, Jamie had got a shoving match and Britain walked out

on her, which played into a lot of things. They've been doing the storyline for forever now, but on the Battle of the Belt when they did the Britt Baker ReHO match Jamie Hayder and Rebel, they kept getting involved and then uh Rebel got laid out and and then she got booted and Jamie's yelling at Britt and Riho hits his Northern Lights and the place went nuts because they bought that one. After two days worth of dissension.

They thought the Riho was the new champion, but Britt kicked out and she ended up getting the win, and then Britten and Jamie had ended up hugging afterwards. So at the moment in the middle of this two year storyline, they're on the same page, but they won't be forever. I thought the Britt Baker ReHO match was really good at Battle of the Belt, but we are ahead of ourselves. The main event of Rampage was Eddie Kingston Santana Ortiz being Daniel Garcian two point oh in a in a

street fight. Excellent match here, although I will say Eddie Kingston and Gabe Kid or was I like to call him Gabriel Kid because he did something wrong? Uh, Gabriel Kid and Eddie Kingston on New Jupans Strong. If you have not seen that match, that match was so awesome. I'll talk about that coming up with with Filthy and then Battle the Belt. Sammy beat Dustin Rhodes to win the interim DNT Championship. Talk about more of that in

a minute. Ricky Starks beat Matt side L and as noted, we had the Britt Britt Baker Rehal match was the main event. I thought the show was good, but like if you were expecting Clash of the Champions TBS Saturday Night Big show, blah blah blah, it was like a good Rampage and I think it's gonna be difficult to make these TBS specials seem like a big, you know, semi pay per view caliber events. If the shows are only an hour, it just feels like a rampage show.

Nothing wrong with it. It was a good show, but it certainly did not feel like you know, in in ten years, my my daughter, who actually will have nothing to do with the wrestling. But if she did, oh man, remember those Battle the Belt shows like people today reminisced about Clash of Champions. I don't think it's gonna be like that, but who knows. If the show does well, maybe next time TBS will say, you know what, We're gonna give you two hours, then we're off to the races.

What do you think about these two shows? What do you think about this interim title? I? Uh, well, I don't like it. I thought it's scoofy, but you know, I think it's scoofy and regular sports and regular fighting when we have you know, boxing is a ridiculous case. UFC is now getting to that point with it, and

you can look at it one of two ways. You know, you had an interesting storyline there with Dustin being involved, even though they really only meant did at the very beginning of the match where we had that classic of Dustin and Dustin and Dustin and Dusty Dustin and Cody, so you could play in that direction. Plus you had Sammy I I I don't mind it because they're pulling from reality right now. Just the problem is the reality of having an interim title drives me nuts. But maybe

they they had to. They told all the t n T exactly. I don't know what it is of why they had to have that match on there. They added the ft W match with with sidel and Ricky Starts. I thought that was good. If you're gonna actually have an f t W title, you know, you might as well have them defended every once in a while. I

thought that was a good idea there. So I thought, you know, and Riho and Britt Baker, and I know there's some people that are, you know, maybe a little bit salty about the fact that Riho is a pawn to get more involved in Jamie Hayter and Britt Baker. But I'm fine with that, you know, I really really am. It didn't Riho didn't lose anything in the tag match. She got the win over Jamie Haydor. Yeah, she lost

a Britt Baker, no big deal there. She lost to the champion, and they continued to the storyline of Jamie Hayter and Bret Baker, which I think is a money one. It really is. Yes, we could keep tabs on how long they've been doing this over two years and all that sort of stuff, but they've done a really good job with it, and it's a match that ultimately, when it happens, I think people are really gonna want to see. So I thought a lot accomplished. Plus Powerhouse Hobbs and

Dante Martin. Martin shown some fire bump bumping heads there with Hobbs. I thought that was tremendous because I really, you know, that's one of those young people matches like we saw Darby and m JF. We've seen Darby and Sammy uh m JF. We've seen all these different young guys. Dante Martin and Powerhouse Hobbs is a little few going on right now. And getting those guys in the mix with each other, I think helps them both immensely because where each other is lacking, the other one kind of

makes up for. It's a nice little mesh there. Plus you have the guys on the outside. Here's my thoughts on this, this interim title. Don't like it. Do you know what else is weird? Listen, I'm I'm a I'm a I'm an old school bloke. I like my championships like defended in matches and one and lost in the ring, and uh, you know, we've seen, we've seen many ways the different companies have handled a champion not being there. And definitely the champions not there, they just they'll tell

you about it. They know three weeks in advance he won't be there. They still advertise, but he's just not there. I don't like that new Japan. They advertise you for a show and uh, your plane is delayed and you don't make it. You're not champion anymore. You're just stripped, like you missed one show you're advertised on and they strip you of the title and they make a new champion. Almost all of Japan, that's the case. I don't like it.

And then of course he's interim titles. I mean, you know, Cody, Cody came down with COVID and you know, I I presume you know he's gonna be fine, like maybe even by Wednesday. I mean, Roman rains, Roman rains, missed Saturday and was back Friday six days later. So you know the idea, and I'm sure they've got some plan or everything like that, but you know the idea that Cody couldn't make one show and so we had to create an interim title because he couldn't make one show. I

don't like it. Now, what could they have done well? As we arguing about on Friday, Mike, it's a battle of the belts? Okay, they have to have a match for a belt. Now what they have in in a doublet I don't know if you've knows this or not, but they have a lot of belts, and one of the belts it was defended, isn't even a real belt. It's the FTW title. So I mean, listen, if you don't want to do a hangman match because he was all bloody and everything like that, and you want to

sell all of that title match would be important. Fine. Well here's the thing, Bro, I was thinking about this. Why couldn't they Where are the tag titles? Can I continue? Why couldn't they have just had Jungle Boy and Lucasource defend the tag titles to replace Cody? Okay? Now, when when I was first thinking about this. The obvious answer is, well, whoever the number one contender is for the tag team

titles right now? Clearly they've got a plan and they didn't just want to throw that match on TV with no build and blow it off and then you know you have to go into whatever. But hold on a second, Dustin was not the number one contender for that title.

So if you're okay putting the non number one contender in an interim championship match against Sammy, then what's the problem with putting the non number one tag team contenders in a tag team championship match because you have to do something on that day because Cody went down for Battle of the Belts where you must have championship matches, That's what I would have done. What's the point of having rankings, what's the point of having a top five?

There's no rule in all of sports. When it comes to fight sports, you just have to have somebody ranked. That's one of the problems with a lot of these rankings, especially in boxing, when you look at and you know, how the hell did this person get ranked? Why are they ranked? They're ranked because that way they can sell a championship match you have all these teams. If you didn't want to have FTR defend the Triple A tag titles against someone anyone, whoever it is, then why not

have the Lucha? I mean, why not have the Jurassic Express do that against even if it's a lower rated team. Make it where they defend the titles. They got a big victory, everybody shows off. Those two look great, Jungle Boys fantastic, gets the pain, they stand up, and then you could still once again do the thing where all these eyes are on them in the same way that they had to rush off the air on Wednesday. To me, that would have made a lot more sense. You're right.

I would have rather have seen a battle of guys wearing belts in a six man with each other as opposed to the interim title. But that's the direction they decided to go. And again, it gives Cody a reason to come back. It gives you an built in storyline based out of real sport. It's just one of those ones that's like, this is where real sports screws up.

Someone here says, well, the TNT titles have rankings. You're right, you're right, but there's a there are a million easy storylines to explain why the number one contenders aren't getting a take team Championship shot, not the least of which

would the take team champion. The number one contenders are heels, and they could easily just say, bro, we're not taking our championship match on one day's notice, and so you have to go with whoever's next in line, and the young bucks are out, so you come down to proud and powerful Back in a moment Observer Life. Back in the show, bran Elba is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike Simper Vid also of Wrestling observer dot Com watching myself. I must kill myself on that backdrop. Heck's going on

doing socks timing issue? Here we go. It was weird. What about my socks? I'm just making fun of him slipping there instead of just being in bar. Oh, you know everything about gymnastics and spring Lord's brother. I thought you were wrestling. Is that what this is? Glorified gymnastics? Well you think it is someone who actually did it. I know if I was gonna slip on those socks, which clearly clearly I never did. Yeah, when are you gonna start wrestling? You know too bad? You've been faking

it all these years doing that. When are you gonna take that seriously? Maybe learn some some things from your old tag team partner Brian Alrez Filthy Tom Lawler, who you're about to do a show with him, probably for the second straight year, received the worst partner in the wrestling. I've been doing the fake stuff. What are you talking about? How about how about seventeen straight years? This this month, not this month, but staring up years. Don't try to

change it now. Seventeen years. You haven't done anything for seventeen years in your whole life, jiu jitsu for seventeen years, right, name something names something did for seventeen years. Drinks here. You're disgusting. Yeah, I love it too. You're a disgusting, filthy creilthy like filthy Tom Lawler. And hopefully I win a Filthy Award this year. Oh man, I hope you do too, brother. Oh man. Well, Tom's gonna give out the filthies today everybody, and we'll talk about nut bands strong.

I think that's it. We don't really have Oh yeah, Smacktown. We gotta talk about SmackDown. Oh no, noah, it'll be fun. So anyway, I'm gonna wrap it up for today. No, I'm not thanking you today, Mike, Thanks Dom, best wishes to Scott, everybody in the studio, all of our Twitch homies, and talk to your YouTube subscribers all at least, talk to you next time Wrestling Observer Live. You have been listening to the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.

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