Listener Feedback/Tony Khan Big Announcement

through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern Sunday three Pacific, sixth Eastern. Well, it's Friday here on this show, and we've got a lot of news to talk about here today, but no massive, shocking, big breaking news today, and so that means today is gonna be a good chance to get some feedback from you. Still here, lovely Hawaiian Islands. Last Observer live from here. Monday, we'll be back home in the studio, and so no

calls here today. I'm gonna take your text messages. Four to five seven zero seven five six six is the text message line four to five seven eight zero seven five six six. Brian at Wrestling Observer dot com is the email at Brian Elbarez on Twitter if you'd like to send a tweet, and of course affordable you online on Cameo flooded this morning with cameos my Lord in Heaven.

But I'll get to him later on today, But in the meantime, we've got a lot of news, including it Tony Cohn's big announcement that he has been teasing of late. He is now stating it could be revealed as early as this Wednesday's Dynamite. We'll tell you about that. It is a big in fact, something massive, is the way that he described it, of similar importance to the First Dance when c M Punk returned to wrestling after a seven year absence. We also have the main events of Rustlemania.

Night one. Night to rustle Mania is about fifty five thousand tickets each night, which in fact is exactly where I said they were going to top off. They don't want to top off at fifty five thousand both nights, and so they've announced the main event of Night one and night too. So I guess if you're one of those people that you ain't going to both Knights of Rustlemania alive, that would be me. You can pick and choose now which which main event you want to see?

So we'll tell you about both of those. We've got updates on so Sorrow the A w Ratings, SmackDown tonight. You'll never guess what SmackDown is advertising tonight. I'll give you a whole commercial break to think about it. Back in a moment. Wrestling Observer Live back in the show, Bring Albarez here, Wrestling Observer Live, Mike's Amber Vivi also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Hello, all of our top tier YouTube subscribers, most of you on all of you, and

of course all of our Twitch homies as well. We got a lot to get into today Sports Byline USA. We're gonna do some news and then we're gonna take some some feedback here today because we've got plenty of time for feedback because no big shocking news today, at least I don't think so looking at everything that's going on. But we do have some news to get into if you want to. Texas zero seven five six six Brian and Wrestling Observer dot Com at Brian Alvarez on Twitter

at four W online on cameo that it's bucks. Yeah, hey, it's listen. It's worth thirty five bucks. Look I'm not I'm serious. People of are tagging me on tweets set telling me and showing me the cameo, saying look at this nice thing that Brian said from my fourteen year old for his birthday, or look at what how well bro Brian buried Reddit or whatever it would happen to be. Have all been very well done and doing these on your vacation. You should be a saluted for that, So salute,

thank you, Mike. I appreciate that no one has me to do a cameo for you yet. That's the weird thing. I've already been asked to do a cameo for Oreo the Orca avoid Did I have fun with that one? That Big Fat Whaley. I should have said that The big announcement he has been teasing as of late could be revealed as soon as next Wednesday. Appearing on Busted Open Radio on Friday, Constant he believes he'll be in a position to announce the news next Wednesday on Dynamite.

He also noted the announcement is not just about one particular piece of talent, but rather something that will impact the entire industry. I'm going to tell everyone you definitely will not want to miss Wednesday Night Dynamite next week, he said, I have a huge announcement coming, and nobody knows what it is. It is going to be something very important in the wrestling business. It's not just one particular piece of talent. It is something very special. I'm

really excited about it. I believe it is something we will be in a position to announce on Wednesday. Last Wednesday before Dynamite, speaking to Tony, Shovanni constantly was working on quote, something massive that was of similar importance to the First Dance when CM Punk returned to wrestling after a seven year absence. I promise you something biggest coming. It's not like the first Dance where I can put a date, time and place on it and say no, I know exactly when. But it is like the first

Dance that I know something big and important. It's coming to a W, coming to a e W, and I am very excited about it. What could this be? It isn't true nobody knows except Tony Khan m hm. I'm true. It's impossible for no one to know besides Tony Cohn, because then then who would he be negotiating with somebody else has got to know, right, or or is everybody negotiating with Tony con blind? Do they not know that they are going to be the big surprise that he

is talking about. I don't know, but you know, it's funny because Tony Khan is advertising a big announcement here. And a few weeks ago there was the announcement that a new talent was gonna debut on Dynamite in a face of the Revolution Ladder match qualifier and it was Keith Lee, and uh, if you guys recall correctly, that show did a good number, and uh, you know, it was pointed out that if you if you announced something big,

the show is going to do a big number. And then last week we had a pretty big show and uh didn't do all that well. Did eight fifty thousand or something like that if I recall correctly. And you know what happens when a W has a low week.

So everyone says the sky is falling, and they talked about everything that was wrong with the show and all of the matches that people didn't want to see and all this and that and uh, and invariably the next week everything is back to normal, because that's what happens with these a W ratings. I've noticed, and uh, you'll

never believe what happened this week. Wednesday's episode of Dynamite one point zero one zero million viewers, up sixteen point two percent from last week, tied Dynamites debut as the show's the fourth highest viewership in two eighteen and forty nine, a point four oh up from last week. Ratings up across all demos, biggest increase in twelve to thirty four, Males up fifty eight point eight percent, females up fifty

six point six percent compared to last year. It was up twenty one point five percent in total viewers and fourteen point three percent in the key demo What was it? Everybody? Jericho segment? The demo? God? Was it this Battle Royal? Was it the lead? In anyway? The point of this is, listen, I'm all about studying the ratings. Okay, I've been doing it for like twenty five years now, and they are

are obsessive about studying the ratings as well. But sometimes things are just gonna go up and sometimes they're gonna go down. And it's not like the end of the world, and it's not like the greatest thing that ever happened. Either, It's just they're going to be patterns. There's gonna be other stuff on television. Sometimes people are gonna watch what else is on television. Most of those people are probably gonna DVR the show. I mean, I I uh, I think.

And this is actually less so with with other programs because you know, Ron SmackDown are are are pretty stable, but you know, there's there's less stability. I've noticed with Dynamite, Like some weeks it's gonna do one point one million viewers, some week is gonna do eight d fifty viewers, and like nobody is being driven off on those low weeks. It's just I don't know what it is. Something happened, whether it's the NBA or everybody wanted to watch South

Park or we go to war whatever. And quite frankly, we went to war this week and they still did one point oh one million. So I think that we should study them, we should look at them, we should try to look for patterns. But the point is, don't freak out over a week. This this happens was actually the pattern is now that every few weeks there's gonna be a low number and it's gonna go back to

normal afterwards. That's the pattern. Now. I don't know why, but anyway, that's my that's my take on these numbers. For most people who it's not their business, like you know, Brandon Thurston and Dave Meltzer and people like that. I mean, yeah, Dave incorporates it into his talking about the news because that's what he's been doing for years, and obviously he reports the news. He discusses that, so I get why it's a big deal a lot of fans, though, I mean,

it's turned into the NBA Dunk contest. Like years ago, when this was new in w c W and WWF for battling head to head, it was you know, it was awesome in a lot of ways. It was new, it was fresh. They were going head to head. There were these you know, it was the biggest amount of people watching wrestling at one time that we had had in you know, since the eighties. I mean, it was insane.

It was more popular than ever mainstream things that dripped into the mainstream, whereas now, like you watch the NBA Dunk competition, this last one passed. It was like it sucked. You couldn't wait to get it over fast enough, and it's like for most of the time talking about ratings, that's what it's like. I mean, yeah, there's a reason that exists, but people aren't really comparing them to how

they should. A W is competing with itself. W w E is competing with itself to banter these numbers back and forth and to try to dunk on each other. It's like they're all usually bricks. Every single time. You know, no matter how dazzling your tweet is going to be, with the blindfold on in the three sixty, you've still missed because it really doesn't matter. It's is a W making Turner happy right now? Yes, they've been very happy with him. The same thing goes with w w E

and USA. At the end of the day, when we talk about this stuff, it's a wash. USA desperately needs w w E. How we should be talking about ratings in the grand scheme of things isn't is boring frankly, because it's talking about how they will maybe impact things later on, and you start to break down those numbers, it becomes a little less fun. And that's why Brandon Thurston is a guy who loves that stuff. So that's why he covers them. But it's a tired discussion a

lot of the time, unfortunately, and it fills time. People like to banter it back and forth, but I don't think people debate it and use it correctly, you know what I'm saying, Like they just want to hear to don't come to the other dude, and it's like, you can do it, but it sucks. We we got a new guy here who he's new, so I'm not gonna yell at him, but he wanted to know if I if I ever talked about ratings before n x T and in a w went headhead, yes, brother, since nineteen Okay.

I'm gonna say one quick thing when we come back, and then I'm gonna move on back at a moment Observer Live back in the show. Brian Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live mixumbur viv, also Wrestling Observer dot Com. I'm gonna spend like a minute on this and move on. Everyone. Don't get mad at Tim b He's new, okay, But

here's the deal. I've been trying back in these ratings for these show since nine okay, and before that, before there even was a figure four weekly Dave was tracking these numbers in the Observer before it even meant anything. It was just like, you know, Saturday night this week did at two point three whatever. This We've been doing this forever. Okay, now listen, I'm not saying it's not important analyzing numbers at all. Okay. There's there's the the

the big picture, and there's the details. Okay it is. It is interesting to look at quarter hours and go, oh my god. Every time you put Rick Fleer on TV in the Monday night Wars like hundreds of thousands of people tune in like he's There are certain people you can track and go, man, this guy, you put this guy on TV is gonna do way better than if the guy is not on television. Okay, same thing today. You know, there's there's little stories and the numbers. Jake Cargil,

Jake Cargill is a television ratings draw. You put Jake Cargill on TV and the numbers are going to go up. These things are all important, but in the big picture it is going to be a slow and steady rise. If Dynamite is going to go to one point five million, one point eight million, two million, okay, if raw is going to eventually be doing one point two million viewers regularly. It's gonna be a slow and steady decline. Okay, there's never gonna be a show like when The Dark Order

beat up the Young Bucks. There's never gonna be a show where like that's it. You're gonna go from a regular one point one million viewers to seven hund thousand, and those people are never It's never gonna happen like that. Okay, it's gonna be a slow and steady rise, or it's gonna be a slow and steady decline, or it's gonna be largely steady and there's gonna be ups and downs. Okay, that's the big picture. The problem is a lot of people that don't understand the ratings. They can't see this

big picture. They only look at what happened this week, the show today, hunt viewers shows dead, they did something last week the people didn't like. They're never gonna that's not gonna happen. They're going to be weeks where the lead in is weak, for example, They're going to be weeks where people really want to watch the debut of South Park. There's and this is gonna happen there's gonna be a week where CM punk is gonna face so and so or whatever, and the number is gonna be high.

You know, ce M Punk and MGF for Free on television didn't do a gigantic number. Does that mean nobody cares about the feud? Does that mean that it's not gonna draw? Of course not. It was one week. I don't know why, but over whatever the word would be, uh, fixating on one week. It's same thing with raw fixating on a week's rating, fixating when they go to another network. You're wasting your time. You mentioned right there. The reason

why is because you don't know why. And that's the whole thing with the numbers, as over time you'll learn from them. Because when we started doing this, what was the Monday Night War total amount of viewers that we had in in two thousand and what was it? Do you remember, off the top of your head, mixed up between the two shows, off the top of your head, what the total amount of viewers were during A million?

Five million total at that point. Actually actually at the end, because WW is doing so well, it was still like around nine million, huge numbers, and and has done a two million viewers and we've watched that atrophy over time, and we learned as things started to snowball downward as to why those things happen. And that's why a lot of times that you know, people that are thinking, we're very critical of WW No, it's because we've had more data to go off of, and we've seen the decline

in booking. We've seen the decline and how they did production things that they always were sharp with that a decline, and people want to take those things that we have studied about that and apply them to a w and go, well, you're not doing the same thing. Yes, most people, rational people are like every but the problem is there are so many people that just want to make this a

war that they really don't benefit from. I mean, I don't see how if you're a wrestling fan, you know again, why why you've got to choose sides and why people have got to be so you know that the word tribal has been thrown out there a lot, but that's what people have done with these numbers, and the reality

of these numbers is we need to gather them. And yes, like you mentioned, you put them up there, and yes, it gives you a little bit of a wave off the shore, but there's a whole ocean out there that you have to learn from. And that's when people want to They don't want to do that. They don't want to like study numbers and actually see how things work and actually put real thought behind them. They just want

to make the tweet. And that's why most of the times these discussions have gotten so old and long in the tooth that you know, even bothering to talk about ratings is ridiculous other than the fact there's so many people that will hit a YouTube view to see it, or you know, the tweet gets retweeted, like the responses

that you get on your tweets. I mean, as ridiculous as it is for you, there are some people that just have got to feel the need to do that every single week, and you know, it sucks to have to shine a light on them, but hopefully we don't have to. And in fact, I don't know how we can transition away from that. But new book Alert And I know you right now, I know you usually don't like books. Let me do. But you don't usually like books unless you know you're writing them or it's your

turn to color in them. But I just literally literally just got this in the mail for all the old heads out there and people that like to read Wahoo McDaniel the new John Cosper book with Lawhoo McDaniel's wife Karen, so they're eat sleep Russell dot Com. I think where you can pick that up. John Cosper does a good job. Black Panther. Jim Mitchell has done some other good historical books. So I can't wait to read that. Because Wlawhoo McDaniel

was one of your favorite wrestlers, favorite wrestler guaranteed. Whooo. How to move on from this discussion? You know how to move on from the discussion. You stop talking about it. I'm done talking about ratings. Let's go alright. We have the main events for WrestleMania one in two. So if you're not going to both Knights of WrestleMania, like I'm not, here's here's your lineup. My lineup. I mean, we got

one match for each night. If you want to see Charlotte Flair versus ron Da Rousey is the main event of the show you go to. You need to buy a ticket for Night one. That is the main event of April second WrestleMania show. You understand, Mike, you idiots we are man. You want to see God, you want to see brock Lessner versus Roman Reigns. You must buy a ticket for night too of WrestleMania. That will be April third, Sunday. So there you go. If you want to see both of these, you gotta buy a ticket

for both shows. That includes you gotta get a ticket for parking. You gotta get in and out of this giant building with a bunch of other idiots. It's gonna suck. I'm still furious about this two night gimmick. They can make all the money they want. I ain't going I know the real shark jumping point with with all of this stuff with you came back when they started moving pay per view times back and we remember all of the yelling and screaming you did about the West. Yes

it did. That's where historically when people look back at Brian albat Is losing his mind over WrestleMania. But I think today is the point where I think I have realized that they are going to continue to do tonight WrestleMania's and they're going to be seventy five. They are, And this is the point where you are going to stop watching all of WrestleMania. At some point, we're going to get Bryan reviews where it's just Dave and you have.

It's gonna be you talking about you fast forwarding through like seven matches. It's gonna be it's coming this way. I'll tell you where this shark got ten years away. Shark got jumped during that uh that New York, New Jersey WrestleMania, I think they called it New York WrestleMania was actually New Jersey. But uh, I mean, bro, it took me forever to get into that stupid building and then on the way home and oh, Ed, I don't want to hear about if I would have just taken

your stupid bus. Okay, bro, it took me. I didn't get home until four am in the morning out of that WrestleMania. And that's the way it was. Bro. Dude, listen, if there's a one night WrestleMania, I'll go, okay, but I ain't doing this two nights in a row. It's not happening. I am sticking to it. I am not going to both Knights of WrestleMania this year. At this point, I'm not going to either night of Wrestleman And you know, the funny thing is they are gonna do uh, they're

gonna do pretty well. They're at fifty five thousand. I thought they were gonna top out at fifty five thousand, but like they're pulling out the Steve Austin's in the whole nine yards, so they may they may do sixty sixty five thousand or whatever. Okay, But when I was angry about this, I said, listen, I'm one guy. Okay, I'm one guy. I'm not saying that nobody is gonna go to WrestleMania. I'm not saying everybody is like me. I'm just a dude who has made a decision. Okay.

But you know it's funny about this. We used to do this WrestleMania thing every year, and it was more than just me. We have like a whole group of people that used to go to WrestleMania every year. I can't find any of those people that are going this year. So apparently I'm not the only one who don't want to deal with getting in and out of his damn stadium two nights in a row. And by the way, by the way, people were like, oh, well you know what would you prefer one six hour WrestleMania or to

three hour wrestle medias? And it's like, oh well, you know, to three hour wrestle media it's much easier than Bro. You think this this first night of WrestleMania is gonna be three hours? You think Night too of WrestleMania is gonna be three hours. If that's the case, have I got a cameo to sell to you. It ain't gonna be three hours on night one and three hours on night too? Are you out of your mind? That's a

great story. It's a great thing to say. Oh hey, you're complaining about it, but trust me, three hours for one night it's gonna be better. Bro, Then ain't gonna be three hours? You're telling me that I'm gonna sell tickets for people to show up in a wrestle media they're gonna give a three hour show. Bro, the video package a loan, They're gonna be three hours. You know, I mean in that building for six hours, you're gonna add to get in, get out and do the whole

the whole thing the next day. Listen to yourself. Do you ever think did you ever think that people just have stopped wanting to hanging out with your ass because the way you bitch and wind and hang out with when we went, I can see why man trying to sell a que Are you going to Mania? No? Of course not. Yeah for that mess were crazy And if I did, I just go to collective stuff anyway, you know, so I am. Do you know we got smacked down tonight? You know they're doing on this show? I don't care.

I'll tell you after the break Wrestling Observer Live. You know I can always tell who has never actually gone to a WrestleMania. Oh god, this guy here, dude watches eight thousand ares the wrestling a week and is bothered by walking into a building. That's a man who's never gone to a WrestleMania. You know what he also is. He's a man who's gonna get on the keyboard and he's gonna go right, but the last nine WrestleMania's Maybe, buddy, tell me what about your girlfriend in Canada while you're

at it? Oh, listen to this. She goes to the other schools, like what you're saying before you say anything else. By the way, maybe it's just we're getting old. You're getting old and not in a bad way. It's just that this is the evolution of things. I look at festivals over two and three days. I look at what w E wants to accomplish corporately and financially, how it benefits the city. Why you do things in the way that you do, And you can say this blows, it sucks.

That's just how it goes. We don't have wrestling shows on Christmas night anymore, and and Thanksgiving night anymore. I mean things times change, traditions and wrestling change, and it may just be a matter of well, you know, if you like that and can handle it, and and have the money to spend on all that stuff, which has always been one of the limiting things for me. I've had a family, I've had a job that at times I couldn't actually leave like that. You'd have the UFC

convention when the site first started. I couldn't get away in July to go to those things. I would have loved to have gone to those things. I just couldn't do it. And then I had my son. There's financials, and there's just so many things that as you get older and as you change, I mean, it's almost impossible. So they become I pay per view events and they become streaming events, and that's where the value is that way.

So this is unfortunately time for a lot of us who liked it the older way because it was so much easier. It's just not the way it's going to be anymore. It's not about easier, it's about convenience or not. I'm going to double or nothing, and I'm gonna work my way into that building and I'm gonna work my way out of that and we're going to do it, and I'm gonna have the time of my life. And if you know, I'm not Tony, con listen to me, homie.

If you don't think that they could turn that into a two day think if they found out they could. If they found out, cities would kind of bid for this stuff because we need stuff coming in and he could pull it off. Don't you think they would? Of course they would. And it's doing it one time, doing it more than one time because it was successful, then it's not as awesome anymore. And that's when a w does a to night double or nothing that's six hours

each night, then I'm not going to go. But until then, until but for the same reasons, for the same reasons. Why. But that's any other wrestling show. It's any other wrestling show besides WrestleMania. What other one runs two days like that at that level. Nobody now except for New Japan, which is gonna you're talking about two nights in the exactly, but there's either. But there's another level of insanity there that is already blowing up in their face. But that's

a story for another day. It looks yeah, it doesn't work for them at all in the cities that they want to run and move this thing around. I just times have changed, and that's It's simply that's the way it is. Well, they can have fun. I'll be I'll be elsewhere tonight on SmackDown. Everybody tonight on SmackDown. You're not gonna believe this. There is a contract signing. I

don't even know who, but anyway, there is wrong. And we also got Drew mc attire and mad Cap Moss taking place tonight after Madcap mus almost got killed last week. Sammy Zane celebrates his championship win and the contract signing. By the way, you idiot is Roman Reigns and Lestner not Runda rousing and you think you're gonna another contract signing after that one day. That thing they did last week where Charlotte couldn't even get her head slammed into

a table sounds two weeks ago. I think on it. M everything's all off. Hawaiian time is different. How about that radio silence? That's what radio silences everybody. It is radio silence because you know what it's okay to be silent. You have to talk all the time. Mike is right. This person says Coachella used in God's name, is arguing that you can't. I don't care if Rustle dude, you want to run wrestle media seven straight nights, knock yourselves out. I'm just not gonna go. I'm not a bad guy

for it. I got better things to do. Then. This is for six hours. This is durfing into you not watching WrestleMania on both nights for the entire night. At some point that's gonna come, that's gonna watch because you're gonna say the same thing. I don't need to watch these geeks or no, that's you. I'm not gonna want n x T two point Oh wait a second one. I I have great joy during Rustlemania. I don't know if you've ever seen my tweets during WrestleMania. I always

have a blast WrestleMania. I don't even put it in my mind as a anything serious anymore. It's a one night event. It's a party. That's what it should be. So for me, it's still a party. You are like here, old man, where it's just like man, I gotta deal with the kids and I had to do this, and nobody wants to come over. It's eight hours. So I said, you know what, I'm not watching any of that because the main event and the things I want to see are gonna come later on anyway. Or it's gonna be

a story about fast forward d v arn things. This is gonna be anything that I say, Or do you just have to yell stuff on the radio. One of any problem Brian Entertainment. I have no problem sitting in my house and watching wrestle Media over tonight. Zero all I'm saying now, I ain't going Now. You don't know the two of us there. There's one of us here that has no prostation n x T two point oh every week because it's my job. There's another not my job to watch it is not my job to watch

n X ten. You point out to watch a show that when you're doing a national radio show, let's just when you're not here. Nobody wants to hear when you're not here. Nobody asked me about point. In fact, they go out of the way to say, don't review it, and I still review it and watch it. Why don't you go check out the Hey take cruise guy? Watch match? Do you ever watch that? Do you ever catch back up on the things? Not laruine Surrey, but s legend

me more about these these matches nobody wants to see? Well, what about all those matches you didn't watch while you were on vacation the last time and on your cruise you didn't catch back up? It wasn't so important, listen you, mr mr journalist, mr TV reviewer, You didn't even got everything's in fact, the wrestling world keeps turning, and I gotta watch all of this other stuff. So let's look at this feedback. Did okay, I have a question for you. Did you watch either of the g c W shows

from this past weekend? Did you watch Prestige from this last weekend? Did you watch New Japan Strong or the two New Japan shows from this past weekend. Did you watch Stardom? Did you watch any of those things? Mr Alvarez, did you watch the Jersey Championship Wrestling show House of Hardcore Terminus last night? What in God's name are you talking about? Well, if you're by the way, everybody an Tom Lawler's show, if you'd like to hear about stardom

in New Japan? Strong, Mr News here, Rustlemania Levin, you're on will the MSG Show beyond the Peacock and Network? M I apologize for being a jerk on it, which thanks for unblocking me. I didn't unblock you. I don't know how you got through, But the point of this is trying to block this point. The MSG Show will not be on Peacock or the network, but that could change. And they went out of their way, by the way, to note that brock Lessner and Bobby Lashley is not

taking place in MSG. They've known this whole time that they've been promoting it, but at least they've told us in advance now not to buy your tickets to see that match because you ain't gonna see it. This person here says, Brian, are you Mexican? Yes, all of a sudden we get new people who just that's a question for cameo, what are you going to discuss your lineage? Brian? While you were in Hawaii, have you been able to

meet up with your favorite Honolulu caller, Brian? Well, my friend, you know, I was watching this raw, this raw show the other night and there was a match with um uh von Cruz. Have you ever heard of that guy, the former Skull van Crush von Cruz they called him, and he was wrestling the Native American Tatanka and uh. And they announced it von Cruz was from and I quote Germany where I don't know where. They just said he was in Germany. Well, my friend, I'm in Hawaii,

but I'm not anywhere near Honolulu. In order to meet up with my friend from Honnolulu, and I have to get on an airplane and or a boat actually would be or not and or But the point of this is no, I have not met up with a guy in another land. On my trip to this island. Was wrestling news spinning in this the world and this guy's watching Skull von Crush from Germany, parts of known Germany. Yeah, because you know what it's entertaining and listen to that show, Brian.

The MGF promo last night was genius. Growing up around a narcissist. You would be an out and out horrible person in every turn, and then have a moment where you would doubt for a single second because they were blaying everything they've ever done on being treated wrong, and then go back to they were, which is where I think that this is going. This is all genius, definitely real. I also just want to add this reminds me of the John Jones tweet saying everyone can cheer up because

I'm sad. Now he needs to get some help he did. Well, yeah, that's a probably. Uh. Here's the thing. That's the only thing about the genius aspect of this, and it's only genius because we have gotten so far away from this in pro wrestling, and some of it by circumstance. I mean, we just can't go as long people do not pay attention to storylines as long they've been bastardized so much from w w E that it's it's difficult to in the same way that other promotions, indie promotions and foreign

promotions can get away with it. This is just great layered story. This is the way it should be with every main event angle, not only every main event angle, but every angle that's supposed to matter, your semi mainz things that may tie into other people are in the main event now. They need to be in serious things and with layers to them as well. And I I hope we see more of this because I think again, I m JF is fantastic how they're playing this, playing

into reality right now. I mean with with Dex Harwood

coming out and things like that. For m JF two take this on and we're getting another layer you know, in his backstory, as well as him using this as ammunition to probably just tell people how whiny they are and how great he is and how much of an idiot Punk is, because you see him lurning Punk into his trap right now, with how he walked out of Aaron Punks, the look on Punk's face after Punk wanted to kill him, literally murder this guy only weeks earlier.

I mean, damn it, this is the way it should be. All the time you talk about this with m JF, why he's so good and how he's so much better than everybody else. Everybody wouldn't prove if we had this mentality when he came to this sort of stuff wrestling. His person here says, you have been analyzing ratings since I was a sperm. Thank you. True. Is it possible that teases of a huge announcement is the reason the viewership bounced back. No, it is not, because this has

been Uh. I don't think anybody was expecting any announcement this coming Wednesday. He didn't announce that it was gonna be announcement this Wednesday. So if there was a huge bounce as a result of the announcement of an announcement, that would be the Wednesday. So you can track that if you'd like. To This person here says Brian, there's someone in aubs out of It's with a bag or box over their head. The difference is it a bag or a box. They're always there in every city, even

on dark. It may just be a fan. But if this is part of the show and it surprise is coming from it, please don't spoil it. I just want to say that I love that A w as little things like that for those paying attention. Well, it's hard for me to spoil it if I have no idea. Who has a bag or a box on their head. You know it's gonna tell me? No, I don't. I'll tell you who is it? You know, tell me during the break Yes, back in a moment, it was of her life. Yes, I knew the bad guy was Mike

can confirm. What I did not know was that I was supposed to care so much. That's what's news to me. Wanting in the chat here? Depending on don't reveal it the text her? I want to just depending on who this text follows on Twitter. They obviously don't follow this person who has tweeted about it with reference to themselves. I believe so I did. I didn't think it was funny. I was on the I was on the chat here and and someone goes, okay, here it is. I want

you to guy's name. I won't see you guy's name. He goes, I wasn't a fan of his, but I'm interested to know what this is all about. He has a bag on his head. Well, what what I mean? You know, you know you had a great audience with like they're intrigued because you have a bag on your head. Oh man, where could this be going? He's wearing a bag on his head? CALLI think of all the possibilities. Maybe his nose fell off, maybe he grew a third eye,

but maybe that's all I could think of. Maybe maybe he's a bandit and thought of that one mama worked at a grocery store. I don't I don't know. Yeah, wow, mm oh hey intrigue, whatever works, all right. Maybe he's maybe he's uh, what was that guy's name in Kaiju Big Battle Doctor? What's his Name's not? Dr Cube? Dr? Yeah, maybe he's Dr Cube and thought of that. Anyway, we're out of time. I had a great time doing Observer Live from Hawaii everybody, but now it's back to real

life here on Sunday. Andrew's gonna be here Sunday. I'll be back Monday and uh later on this weekend with Dave. And that's it. So thanks to Mike has always callers and listeners everything, the studio will talk to you next time Wrestling Observer Live. You have been listening to the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network