Kevin Gill/AEW Preview/NXT Recap

You're wrestling, and we're here today to talk about everything that's going on in the world of professional wrestling. I thought I heard Mike semper vv creeping in, but while we wait, there's so much happening in the world right now. It's the holiday season. N x T was last night a e W dark. Let's light it up in those comments on twitch Right off the bat, I want to send a shout out to everyone that just supports and

believes in professional wrestling. For me, this platform, this show, The Wrestling Observer Alive is something that I've I've been listening to for for many many years. I'm a subscriber to the print version, and what a time it is to be Alive, coming to you live from San Francisco, California, and I didn't really have an agenda today, so maybe I would use this time to address certain inflammatory comments

made about me last night by one Matthew Cardona. You may know him as Zach Ryder, would probably be the only way you know him. His desperate attempts to remain relevant are very interesting, some would say successful. He has trended number one on Twitter. But as an individual, as a human being, I find him to be as phony

as the orange tanner he uh surrounds himself in. He's a man that must remain in motion because if he stays in any place for more than a second or two at a time, he leaves a lasting orange stain. So that is what I have to say about Matthew Cardona. What do you What do you think about matt Cardona? What do you think about g c W? What did you think about an x T last night? I thought it was an interesting show, to say the least, a lot of new talent. But you know what, I hear

that bumper. We're gonna throw it to a commercial and we're gonna see if our friend Mike Semper v of your turns for segment two of Rustling Observer Live. Ryan Alvarez is at see Mike Semper, vv is in the digital stratosphere, and your boy KG Kevin Gill is holding it down across Sports Byline, across Twitch for all the

troops overseas. It's going down. And one of the things that's caught my eye and my attention and is regarding some statements that Tony Khan has made regarding a E W T Dynamite airing of course tonight, the Man has promised huge announcements as well as a surprise. And if you look at the history and the track record of

promised surprises in the wrestling industry overall mixed bag. If you look at the track record of Tony Khan and a W in terms of surprises and announcements, the man has uh six stars at the Tokyo Dome, you know what I mean. So the fact that they're putting this out there for such a loaded show, um, it really could open the door to you know, we all know the holidays is the toughest time to to get a raining and to get the audience's attention. However, is a

W stacking the deck? So convincingly tonight with this lineup that they could possibly take a little notch into that loss that happens. We saw n x T last night introduced aj Styles into the mix to try to counter that Tuesday Night nfl um taking nothing away from the star power of Styles. You know what I mean? But I think a W is really stacked the deck for tonight.

I know Semer bb is gonna jump back in and he's excited because a W tonight is the Holiday Bash Dynamite from the Greensboro Coliseum in the wrestling town of Greensboro, North Carolina. Uh, and Mike Simber, give you what are your thoughts on the show tonight? Forget about my thoughts on the show tonight. Let's talk about the show right now.

And what kind of professional that Kevin Gill is to jump in here when we're having all sorts of technical snaff foos getting from Brian's studio to the Bye line back to the beach on the East coast over here, all this sort of nonsense, and look at you just going at it. What is going on? My man? Oh, it's it's a thrill to be here, Mike. As you know, I'm a I'm a daily listener, a big supporter and fan, and it's an honor this year the air waves man.

Much love to Granny too, if I can say that, and much love to producer Dom who was doing some s hambling to save the day there. So here you go. A watermelon red bull for the working man that I will open up right there, and Kevin a look again. I thank you very much for coming on the show. Obviously, thank you very much for covering for me here as I was able to jump on the the byeline highline and get this show started here man. But you know, I just when it is great to finally have you

on here. It's great to be able to talk about game change or wrestling. But there's a lot that I'd love to get into today with you. And one of the things I wanted to talk out a little bit about was tonight's a e W show. And I'm not sure exactly what you ran down there when he came to the show tonight. Did you have a chance to speak about the owen Hart Cup and some of the things that they have planned for that tonight. No, I did not name any of those details. I was just

about to. But the only thing I did mention was the Tony Cohn is teasing major announcements and a major surprise tonight on Dynamite and his track record on delivering announcements and surprises is on paralleled. So that alone has

my attention, and then we can run down that amazing card. Yeah. Absolutely, And you know they have mentioned on Twitter and in other places they have put this out that tonight they are going to have a very special video on the Owen Hart Cup Tournament, which will include stars of multiple generations speaking about his legacy and what will be very cool for I think a lot of wrestling fans out there. I think some of us olds take this for granted because you know, we've had a chance to see a

lot of Owen in New Japan pro wrestling. But I think for a lot of people who get a chance to see Owen Hart mix it up with Jusian Lieger or or however, they're you know, so many guys of that generation, one of the greatest generations of the New Japan junior heavyweights that ever at that time when he was there. Uh. They're gonna be showing some of that too, including and as well as private movies that Martha Hart.

Uh is allowing to be to be aired. So this is going to be a very emotional surely in a very educational night. I think for a lot of people that you know Owen has been it's been a long time now, and we have so many of our listeners and viewers of this show that I mean, they were born in the two thousands, so they you know, they

know the story of what happened to Owen hartp. But I don't think they really know in some ways you know who he was or how great his legacy is in the ring because unless you saw that New Japan stuff, and you only go off the W W E stuff, which is great, you know a lot of it, you know, you don't really know how how impactful and how revolutionary of a guy he was, and how wonderful is it that now his his true legacy with the cooperation and the spirit of his family and and and all the

platforms that a w can provide and to bring this this Owen hard cup uh for for male and female performers like it's it's really just fabulous. The whole the whole thing is populous, absolutely, and they have a Britt Baker, Tony Chevanni, Christmas party which is going to be set up.

And I don't know if you saw the little Control Center segment that Tony Chevanni did where he invited on his former tag team partner in the booth, David Crockett to come on, and Tony did mention that he may be bringing the mistletoe, and uh, he was kind of

poked by David there a little bit. And I don't know if that's really all that good of an idea, considering Adam Cole has not been in a good mood recently, going back and forth with the best Friends, and he will face off against Orange Cassidy tonight, as well as the TBS tournament semifinals between Nyla Rose and Ruby Soho, as well as Griff Garrison going for some revenge on Malachi Black, and that will all lead to the main event that I am very much interested in. M JF. Yeah,

just just a little bit. M JF and FTR against Sting, c HM, Punk and Darby Allen Sting's first match in Greensboro, North Carolina in twenty seven years. Man, it is a long time, and even crazier thirty four years ago is when he faced off against Rick Flair, which means thirty five years ago is when Jim Crockett promotions about the u WF and they got sting and it is it is wild that he is still going right now. It is going to be a wild scene for sure. I

would assume in Greensboro and Boy surprises being promised. I know there are a lot of people last week that were hoping that the Briscos would kind of pop out there at the end and be that surprise, but it ended up being sting in Darby Allen, which makes complete sense to lead into the match in Greensboro tonight. But Kevin, you know, it's the massive speculation station. Sometimes when he comes to a W, they have a lot of tools at their disposal, a lot of people and surprises that

they could try to pull off. Tonight would now be a good time for the g c W World World Tag Team Champions to make their first appearance in a W.

I very well could be the Brisco brothers. Den boys have been on a roll and Mike, you followed their career from a very up close perspective for a very long time, and not only have those guys not lost a step, but there the level that they perform at is unprecedented, and in a way, as Ring of Honor has had its own challenges, it felt like less and less of the world got to be as hands on familiar with the Briscos greatness. And now the world's attention

is back on the Briscos. The biggest audience possible is seeing the Briscos. It's about to blow up. In my opinion, the Briscos are are that damn good and that that why not that no time better than now, And with the challenges of the holiday season and the ratings, Let's blow tonight up and see how it does. I think that's a great strategy. And if I made my real quick he talked about Sting returning to Greensboro. Uh, there's

a lot of missed opportunities in the wrestling business. One of the biggest missed opportunities of this generation was Sting not winning his big match at WrestleMania and then doing that big tour with w W Lee and coming to all these towns and wrestling one last time and appearing and all that. But instead a w is there to make the tactical move and and the feel good vibes

for the holidays. Man, it really really is and I would assume that a lot of old traditions are going to be on display, or at least a lot of old, old, fuzzy war memories. It would be hard for me to believe that there's not going to be. I mean, Tully

Blanchard is right there. I mean, so many of those guys that not only are in the ring but work for I mean, you forget about how many guys that now work for a w behind the scenes that grew up as in the Jim Crockett Promotions era and in that especially in that Dusty Rhodes era of being the booker there where we got Flair and we got Dusty, and we got the horsemen and Sting in so many of these other great memories. And it is going to be fascinating to see how they weave all of that

into the show tonight. And hey, everybody, we made it through one. Let's see if we have any more technical snapoos for the rest of them. Mike sember bby Kevin gil Wrestling was over alive back on the show. Mike Sember BB joined by Kevin Gill. This is Wrestling Observer Live. Brian Albert is still out on that big boat in the water somewhere, floating alongside Oreo the orch. I am sure he is enjoying his time. I am sure he is enjoying not dealing with a whole bunch of headaches

that come with doing this show sometimes. So everything seems to be all settled now, KG. And and you know, I have wanted to return to favor for a long time and have you on the show and things just you know, it hasn't really worked out to be for you to be able to come on as a co host for the entire thing. But you know, you know, far past the g c W thing, Like you know, we're old, you know we we we go back in this thing. We go back for a minute here, like

you know the way back. And in fact, you know you're you know, is that what you want to call it this season. We're battle tested, We're callous to the way of this thing. And I've been doing this now. Wake's very experienced with with all the x is in there that that may be required depending on what the

experience was at the time. But you know, twenty years, I've I've been in this thing now and in some form or another, uh, starting off at the torch doing impact or at the time it was n W a t N A weekly pay per views, because who else was stupid enough to buy those? You know, for a week I was. I thought it was a cons sept and I was I had to get away from w W at the time everything else died out. Yeah, Like I had a viewing party for the night one, did

you really Absolutely? I had like twelve people over. I felt bad though, I'll be honest, I felt I kind of felt bad at the end because it wasn't well received. I was gonna say, how many came back in the next week. Yeah, it was a very disappointing, Like we were so hyped for it, and then there was like you know what I'm saying, little people in trash cans, and it wasn't what I was. There was some there was some eyelights, but it wasn't what we were expecting.

Oh puppet with Dusty roose Midet beating off in the trash can. This was These were words uttered on on real TV. But you know, that was when I got into this. But by that point, you know, you were already into all of this. And I guess for some people out there who really only know you as the g c W guy or maybe they know you from Juggalos or something like that, like just the wrestling stuff. Talk a little bit about like kind of who you were, and you don't have to give a big buyo or anything.

But like I don't know if people they see you with Lars, but like they don't know you were in the punk game in New York and putting out your own stuff for a long time and putting people on and they don't know about that. They don't know that you were in the video game business and you know, all of that sort of stuff and how you got the backyard wrestling stuff off the ground. Like you talk just a little bit about who you are and where you came from to get to this point. Now, sure, man,

I appreciate the kudos. I mean, I'm I'm a wrestling a music fan from Queens, New York, and uh, like many people, I found an escape. I found magic in in music and wrestling and video games and my passion in being in New York, a wrestling mecca, a music mecca. It wasn't long before I, while being a wrestling fan, I got to experience your masson Square Garden and Naessa Colosseum, and you know, even got to see Jimmy Valliant versus Abdulla the Butcher in white Stone Queens. I got to

see Roddy Piper wrestling white Stone Queen's Crazy Things. But I was a fan, and uh, my fandom of wrestling and music led me to putting out a series of New York hardcore records. I put out nineteen records for Striving for Togetherness Records, a New York card core label best known for artists like Vision of Disorder to Life, No Redeeming Social Value six and Violence. Um. That was a total d I Y thing. I didn't have any experience. I was a kid who moved out of his house

at seventeen years old. But I saw an opening. I was like, how is this super underground band that I'm seeing play in a tiny room with everyone screaming the words? How do they not have a record? How are they not playing better shows? And I just learned how to do stuff. Let me book this band shows, Let me get this band a record deal. Why aren't I putting out the records? And through that d I Y approach, I got to meet and work with a lot of people and this was at the same time that e

c W reignited my passion for wrestling. So I was so I was escaping from hardcore music by going to e c W shows working on the label during the week, and uh, that was just an amazing crossover that led to me getting up my work in branding and marketing and and all that led me to an opportunity with a startup company called rock that wasn't even have a name yet, but it went on to be known as rock Star Games. UM. So I was one of the first handful of people to work there, and I'm grateful

for those opportunities. From there, I worked on a lot of great games there and had incredible opportunities. Uh. From there, I went to IDAs Interactive. I worked on games like Tomb Raider, Backyard Wrestling, hit Man. I got to create the Backyard Wrestling series. I got to do the soundtracks for it, bringing time all the other stuff together. So UM, I feel very blessed to have the track record that that I have, and UH to have worked on hundreds

of video games and put out all these records. And UH there was even a time with rock Star Games where we we had assigned contract from Paul Hayman to do the e c W video game, and who knows how that could have changed everything, But in the end it wasn't. It was meant to be. But I've gotten to meet my heroes and work with them. Most of them are awesome, and uh, I really wouldn't change the thing.

I'm just grateful to be here and to lend my experience and my p l V from a d I Y New York hardcore underground every man's perspective, but with kind of a maybe a worldly overview. Now, how did they how did you get past the mike and pro wrestling? Because a lot of people are like, well, how did you end up in the position that you're in like talking to me, and it's just like, you know, well, just I was a big wrestling fan that got on somewhere and I love to talk and I love to

banter about wrestling. It just it started with the parress who power our podcast, and it just kind of went from there and then you know, here I am. You know it didn't still doing this thing, still learning, still grinding, but it's like, you know, there's there was no book. I never learned how to do this stuff. Obviously, you can listen to me and tell you know, I didn't go to college and get my mask calm degree. You

know what I'm saying. It's like I just I just had a passion for something and I really poured myself into it, and I've learned everything as people have painfully followed along with me in my process of trying to learn how to do video and audio and the nightmares of sin lament A shows and all that sort of stuff, like you know, you know, but it's like, you know, nobody told me it would trained me how to do this when you first got the mic? Who passed it

to you? And did you have any experience doing anything when he came to wrestling play by play? Okay, so the only experience I had do in wrestling play by play was literally sitting in the stands and I would kind of call match, not the entire matcher all the time, but I would kind of call certain stuff when I would just go to a show, you know what I mean, for my me or my friends amusement type of thing like uh, calling spots or calling little sequences with a

little extra comedy or whatever. Um, but that's just messing around, you know what. I mean the first time, the first time I ever got the mic. Uh. Outside of wrestling, I got the mic a lot in video games like rock Star would use me to talk to the press, talk to investors. They would fly me out to sell games to Walmart and other people, you know what I mean. I would actually go and do the talking. You know what I mean, I would do the pitching. So they they saw something in my talk and let me talk.

But for wrestling, Uh, my first opportunity in wrestling was being a referee, So referees don't talk. So I was just being a referee. And there was an independent show here in San Francisco and a wrestler named Dylan Drake, who's the champion. So he's he's the big dog, he's the vet, and uh, the camera crew was set up and they call out to locker room, Hey, we need

a mic check. And someone checked this mic and everyone's just talking and lacing up their boots and whatever, and no one gets up, and I go, I can cut check the mic and then go go ahead. So I just cut off the top of my head like ninety second promo about like a radio commercial almost for what tonight's event was going to be And at the end of the promo, the champion stood up Dylan Drake and he said, why is this guy not on the microphone

on our show? And because of the way wrestling works, they did not put me on the microphone on the show. They did let me cut a few promos down the line, but at that moment, I felt like I should be commentating. Uh and to answer the question. Finally the first first time though, that was someone passing into me. The first time I ever did commentary, I passed the mic to myself.

It was the backyard Wrestling video game tournament at the l A Convention Center with Super Dragon, m Dog, Mac Cross, Men Man Pondo, all these people at the E three Video Game Convention. I put together a backend wrestling tournament. It's an all video game industry audience. The show starts, I was the ring announcer. As soon as the match begins, it just feels a little dead in the room because there's all these people that don't know how to react

and respond. And I looked at the person who's producing the the booth for for IDAs and I say, it almost feels like it needs commentary, and she's like, it does so I just turned the microphone on and I did play by play for a multi day wrestling tournament, and I was like, oh, that was fun, but that was a poll was I didn't do anything officially, uh until I c P offered me Violent Jay's spot on the commentary team. Violent j wanted to step away from commentary.

He wanted a new partner for Shaggy Too Dope. They thought it should be me and Uh and then that that that's really the arc. Keevin, we have about a minute left to go in this segment here. How did you hook up with Game Changer as far as coming over and doing j c W, doing the g c

W stuff and hooking up with them. I was a fan and supporter of Game Changer Wrestling from the beginning, and when they announced the original Joey Janelle spring Break that literally the second day announced that, I thought it was genius. I thought it was groundbreaking. Joey Janelle was a very unsung hero of the Northeast. It was a big risk for them, and I respected their hustle and I asked if there was any way I could be

a part of it. I was a little friendly with Joey and stuff at the time, and at Lorderdale gave the okay and I got to come in and call a match at the original spring Break, and I've worked

every spring break since. You know, we're pushing up to break here, so I won't throw anything at you, and I'll just you know, say that that it hasn't been that long since that first Joey Janilla spring Break, and g CW has obviously reached a certain level, and you know, it really is about how they present themselves, the authenticity that they provide, and how they make their fan base feel.

And in a time where WWD seems to be actively fighting their fan base, a w obviously empowering their fan base, there doesn't seem to be a relationship anywhere and wrestling like there is between the fans of g c W and and themselves. So I want to get into that with you, as well as a whole lot of what g CW has coming up, including the Indie Wrestling Hall of Fame, which I think is another really cool concept.

Kevin Gil Mike SEMPERVIV Wrestling Server a lot. I could have said something right there, but I wanted to let that Skies who Track play a little bit more Wrestlings Overlive. Mike Simper VB here with you. Kevin Gill is joining me. The homie, the o G. He's not the big homie because right now, Brett Lauderdale that's the big homie. And that is what we're gonna get into right now. Game Changer Wrestling. What has been going on? What is going on? What is gonna be coming up for this UH promotion

which is growing by leaps and bounds. Kevin and I mentioned it before the break. You know, p W G and their fans have a special relationship. I've seen it with a W and their fans in Chicago. Special relationship. You know, indie wrestling, that's what it's built on. It's built on you know, your your locals and your people and your fans. It's just those people getting them and thralled, getting them motivated come to your show, to spend money to support you, to come out there every single time.

You know, no matter what the weather is, no matter what what is going on. Like that's how you build a promotion from the ground up. You've got to empower your fans. And it does not seem like right now, and I could be wrong. I could be a little biased because you know, g c W has been one of the only promotions that's really made me feel something here in the last couple of years. Like, is am

I am I over selling it? Or is the relationship between the fans and GCW a little bit more special than then it seems to be in other places right now? Oh yeah, I mean I've never seen anything like it in wrestling. And like you said that, I think a W has a great bond with their fan base. What you said with p W g true. But the engagement in the connection with Game Change of Wrestling is on another level and people are going people will die for

Game Change of Wrestling. Yeah, for Game Change of wrestling, for for m d K, for their support on Patreon is unprecedented. Um, it's really hard to put into words. For me again, I came up. You mentioned Lars Fredericks in earlier and one of my favorite quotes that's almost become like a philosophy. It's from a Rancid song and you just change bands to wrestlers and it's the same thing, but it speaks of the same philosophy. All these bands,

all these people. Um, and now I'm messing up the quote. Well, we were friends and we were equals, you know what I mean? And that's the key thing. Like you're there, You're seeing your favorite bands, they're your friends. You're supporting this community. You're a vital part of this community. You have a voice in this community. You belong in this community,

do you know what I mean? And that feeling of belonging that I felt in the New York hardcore scene, the feeling of belonging I felt in the Juggalo scene is the same feeling of belonging I feel in the

game Change your wrestling world. And it's the same thing I see with other fans and and some of them have been writing testimonials in sich In in the Patreon, But it's it's amazing to know that by who knew that listening to the people and giving them what they want and being acceptable and doing from a gressroots level, that you could really really connect with people and make them feel something like as you said that that some of us haven't gotten to feel it in some time,

and for the younger fans, they might have never have gotten to feel before that excitement, in that organic passion that you cannot produce script or write. And you know, everybody always makes the joke about the forbidden door, Like when it came to g c W, it seems like and especially going to see the show in Atlantic City, and we talked about this when you invited me on h the g CW podcast, where you know, there is

no door. It's come in and we're gonna kick your ass out that door if you act a certain way or you treat other people in a in a certain way. But everybody's welcome here, and not only shows. You know, when it comes to the fans, when you look around and you see so many different types of people from all walks of life, all just you know, down in there, gritty and and and loving what you know they're you

know they're watching and obviously what's around them. But it also translates into the ring, where again g c W, it's one thing to put on shows and you have all these great flyers for all these you know, great matches or you know competitive matches PWG style of things, or you have w w E styles of shows or indie shows based on big stars, you know, big names

that they'll bring in. But g c W is the place where, look, if you can go, it doesn't matter what you look like, doesn't matter how big your name was, You're welcome to come in. Whether you're a Matthew Justice or whether you're Effie or whether you're Blake Christian or Nick Wayne. You know, there's a place for everybody here,

Juicy Finale. I mean, from what you've seen, how this how is this evolution kind of in your eyes, kind of been with you know, Look, Matt Cardona is obviously getting a lot of the attention now him and is He's a horrible person, He's got a horrible wife, he's got a horrible attitude, he's just a terrible artisan. But

he brings a big name in. And now you're seeing guys that that were in the big league's quote unquote did have their their big contracts with WW or somewhere else that they want to be involved in g c W. I mean, it's got to be crazy to see how this thing has evolved and seeing some of the talent that's gone through there without a doubt, and right off the bat, everything about Matt Cardona is fake. Mattcardona is

not even married. From the fake tan to the died beard, you know what I'm saying, Uh true when Mattcardona came in and took on Nick Gauge in a death match, a match many people never expected to see that Rider not only uh wrestling, but to go on and win. But g c W trended number one in the world that night, and that was during a UFC pay per view and the Olympics. So you have to give the devil his due. But I think it's all about that,

that passion and the people who weather. You're Zach Rider and you've been riding a chair in catering for years hoping that the Mojo rowlie thing gets picked back up. Or you're someone who's actually on the bleeding edge of today's wrestling, and maybe you're just out of a contract. Uh, maybe youre's someone underneath that wants to get seen. I think all roads lead to g c W in the

same way all roads lead to the Hammerstein Ballroom. There's a passion, there's an openness, there's the art form of professional wrestling is practiced at g CW, and the fandom is very attuned to it. And I think if you're anyone in wrestling, and if you don't want to be there, you know what I mean, that's up to you, But I think it's hard to look at it and not

want to be not want to feel bad. And I wanted to do big part of why Matt Cardona wanted to move out of the perennial lower mid card to be a main inventor for a second before we rage quit a he quit like a b uh and and that is up on the the g CW Twitter on cards Twitter whiny event is just a whiny person. Forget about him. For for one bad person to another. One of the people driving the car to the Hammerstein Ballroom

is Atticus Kogar. And I think one of the big paves of of road that took place for g c W was Ricky Shane Page and four four oh. And I would still argue that for g c W fans if you just took you know, obviously there are bigger promotions that got more shine. But as far as a guy that may have been the best bad guy, and I'm gonna put it in nice terms like it's p W I in the nineteen eighties the best bad guy

in the business. I mean, nobody infuriated a fan base like four four on Ricky Shane Page and he really helped even though again another terrible person, he helped really start to get this thing going. And by going after the gauge and going after just everything about GCW, because we talked about earlier the magic of this g c W experience and community, and prior to this it was unpolluted,

you know what I mean. And then you have Ricky Schane Page assemble an army of douche bags and obviously radio language uh to to try to ruin and to try to take over and corrupt what GCW means and what what it's doing. And ultimately, obviously at the Art of War Games, Ricky was vanquished. But Atticus Kogar, so tenacious, never stops moving forward. You never see hesitation from him. And to say he's a blue chipper is an understatement. To say he's the people like him and Jordan Oliver

are the future of this business, It's an understatement. And they about killed each other and blood on the hills and took place last Saturday out of the Ukrainian Cultural Center in Los Angeles. That was the main event. No rope barb wire match that they had flaming doors there, there was glass involved. It was a hell of a thing. But give me your thoughts on that show. And there's a couple more shows that we're gonna have going forward

as we get into the Hammerstein. Obviously there are the the shows taking place on uh New Year's Eve weekend, But talk a little bit about those shows uh coming up, and also about this one that just passed here in LA this past weekend. Well, as you said, Mike, we talked about the Brisk Goes earlier. The Briscoes were an action defending the Belts against Brodie King and p c O,

both making their returns to g CW. That match, UH standout one of the standout matches of the night when you don't want to miss, of course, the replace on Fight TV, but to see the Brisk Goes versus PCO and Brody in the type of violent, super violent, bloody

brawl that they had was truly spectacular. That main event barbed wire match, the first main event for both of those young competitors, Jordan Oliver and Attics Kogar, was certainly something to see where Oliver totally out of his element, you know what I mean, and and Kogar right at home in the wire. What jumped out at you, Mike with those two It really is how Kogar is again for his age, and I just look at him and think, if he doesn't kill himself in the ring, this guy

is going to be a megastart. He's gonna be a megastar for GCW for a long time going forward. And Jordan Oliver, he is just all the grit in the world. I look at Jordan Oliver and Nick Wayne and I see the same thing. I see a lot of the same kind of parallels. And obviously Nick's got a little bit of a different background than Big Breakfast has, but it's like you just see this drive and this determination and this almost You look at them and you just like this baby face fight. You just look at them

and know that they have it. And Kogar has kind of got the same thing, but he's just it just in the opposite way. He's just such a devil and you know, is willing to do almost anything, you know, and including you know, breaking out the glass, breaking out the the lighter fluid, all of that sort of stuff. But the amazing part is when you see him actually go in the ring and there's not all of that,

all of that stuff. You know, all three of those guys, I just mentioned, especially Nick because of the background that he has. I mean, the sky seems to be the limit for all of those guys, whether they're doing high violence matches or whether they're just they're just telling stories in the ring. Yeah, and and Tony Deppen and Nick Wayne had an absolute banger. You know that the show was just hot, hot from the rip. It opens with the scramble right into the Briscoes versus Brody and pc

O depfen In. Wayne absolutely tore it down. And how can we not talk about Bussy Effie and Alley catch defeating, definitively defeating, causing Matt Cardona to go on act trying emotional breakdown attack in the parking lot of the venue. What a match it was to see Bussy just reigned supreme and to see the cardonas the unmarried, totally phony Cardona is just be vanquished and hopefully exiled. I tell you, it was a hot, sweaty night there. Who doesn't love hot,

sweaty Bussy. You know what I'm saying, It really isn't Seeing Alley catch pile drive both Cardona and Chelsea and get the pin. I thought that was absolutely awesome. You know, she's another one that you know, it's so early in her career and you can see how I mean. The match with thunder Rose It that they had in Jersey, I thought was again very very good, and you gotta can talk about a lot of big Look that Trey

Baxter ri E Sterling match was pretty good too. It's just thank god they were Blake Christian and Alexane and those are two other guys that you know, my god, and we got about forty seconds here Kevin. But I mean talk about the sky being the limit and where g c W is When people look at it and go, well, it's just garbage russing, it's death matches, it's this, It's like, no, it's not. And it's guys like those two that are

going to continue to elevate things. Absolutely wrestling. To me, it's a carnival show in the sense that it's a variety show. There has to be something for everyone. For every Jacob Fat there must be uh a cruiser weight, you know what I mean, Like you have to have that diversity in sizes and styles. Who doesn't like a little violence mixed in with the Luca, mixed in with the scientific, mixed in with John Gresham. I mean, that's variety is the spice of life. I love these shows

because of that. You get Jonathan Gressim, Ninja Mac who Lenja Mac is going to be on this show. Yes, you know what I'm saying, and you get you get that, and it's just it's fantastic and I can't wait. Ninja Max is gonna be on the show. Kevin. I got to throw in a question about the Indie Wrestling Hall of Fame because I love that concept coming up. Everybody is gonna have to put a ball on this show. I don't want to. Kevin Gill is gonna be back again to co host this thing very very soon, so

we can talk for longer. But if I talk for any longer, we won't get to the break. Wrestlumes are alive, Welcome back to the show, Mike's favorite Wrestlings over Life, down with the the good music right there, Kevin Gill, g C W Wrestling, so many other things. We only got about two minutes left, my man, but I had to ask you about this. The Indie Wrestling Hall of Fame will be taking place Saturday, January twenty two, the day before g c W is in Hammerstein, at the

Cutting Room in New York. Dave Praisak one of my all time favorite people ever to be involved in wrestling, and I can admit this since he's not listening to

this show. Of all of the people that I got to meet for the first time who I have corresponded with for forever at that g c W show, he was the one I was actually most honored and happy to see because he's just been always there and I've always been in a lot of of all about all the things he's done, he's accomplished, and he has been around, including I just I just tons of of incredible Dennis Corluzzo stories for sure. But you know he's gonna be

going in. Nobody's said that to induct him yet, but Jerry Lynn by shal And wall Man, Homicide by Chris Dickinson, Ruckets by Sanjay Dudd just a little bit about what

that's all about. Well, the Indie Wrestling Hall of Fame is an event I feel like it is long overdue, and kudos to Game Change and Wrestling and Orange Crush for having the huevos to pull it off at such a beautiful, uh and historic venue like the Cutting Room in New York City, to honor people like Dave Praysack, the Assault of the Earth, who's also been digitally reissuing and physically reissuing a lot of great shimmer material which

you can get from him. But I'd like to give you one a night and the love in the room, the feeling in the room, the vibes in the room. Um, did you mention homicide being inducted by Chris Dickinson as well? Yes, Homicide by Chris Dickinson, Ruckets by Sanjay Dudd and Jerry Lynn and o G by Sean Waltman. Exclusive. Let me give you an exclusive. Tracy Smothers is being inducted into the Indie Wrestling Hall of Fame. That my friend is

awesome in an awesome way. To end the show, Tracy Smothers a legend, a legend for so many wrestlers, young wrestlers who have come up. He didn't get bitter about the business. He gave back to the business and kept teaching. Kevin Gill, you keep grinding. Can't wait to have you back on the show. Thank you everybody for sticking around. Thank you Producer Jared, producer Dom and everybody else involved in making this show happen. We shall talk to you

again after a while. You have been listening to the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.