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Filthy Tom Lawlor Back Again/RAW Review

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Mike and Filthy Tom Lawlor are back hosting while Bryan is on vacation. Mike and Tom review last night's RAW action and cover all things New Japan.

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Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, let's get it all, let's get on. We will Mike Semper vv here with you for the next hour talking professional wrestling and Nick's martial Arts. Don't worry about that echo you heard in the background, that that doesn't really exist. But even though we make mistakes here sometimes audio wise, we are here with you every single day on the

Sports Pinline Broadcasting Network. And however you're joining me today, tune and I heart American Forces Radio over the area. Affiliate's like the Mighty Er ten ninety Serious X podcast streaming video on Twitter, on YouTube. I'd just like to say thank you for spending a little bit of time with me today. Once again, as you already know, Brian Alvarez out on the ocean with Oreo and his family, enjoying some time away from all of this nonsense that's

got to do with profession wrestling. And as a result, for all of you a S m R kids out there, I get to bring back this for you. You ready, quiet down there, you go now you can get excited. You can also get excited over the fact that one more time, joining me today as the co host on this program, your new Japan strong open weight champion, Filthy Tom Lawler is going to be here. You can find

him on Twitter at Filthy Tom Lawler. You can find me at Semper viv, and you can find this show at w O n F four W the broadcaster at Sports Byline USA, And we're gonna have plenty to get into today. Rawl was last night. Now. I don't know if Filthy has been reviewing old Brian Alvarez shows on Tuesday's of this show too, to try to gather up the same type of of energy that Brian has to to study his technique when he goes deep in and bitches and moans and and and cuts these big rants

on RAW. Hopefully he has, because I don't have that sort of thing. It actually really wasn't all that kind of a show last night. The worst thing I can say about that show was it was three hours long. But there were some good moments to it. There were some very questionable and confusing moments as well, sometimes in the very same segment, but we'll get all into that.

Plenty of other things taking place as well too. Across the the wrestling landscape that we're going to get into the road to New Japan, and the Tokyo Dome is well on its way, and we're gonna get into that too, as well as many other things. Possibly your phone calls. I would tend to doubt it, but maybe if so, we'll open those up for You'll give you that and we'll be back. Rustin's over Alive. You need an accurate thermometer to check for fever a potential sign of fluor covid.

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Mike semper viv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. Back on the show Wresting Observer Live, Mike semper viv here, whether you're sitting in the big Boy hosting chair for Brian Alvarez this week filling in my spot, somebody who can do that far better than I can. Filthy Tom Lawler once again back on the show today, filthy, what's

going on? Thanks for the introduction, Mike. You can blame that very early audio mishap on myself, your co host, but although you're not gonna do that because we unlike your usual cost you and I get along, but you can blame that on me. As I am not used to these terrestrial airwaves. I should say I'm more used to the extra terrestrial side of the radio airwaves on Figure four daily. But thank you once again. I'm here

on Rusting Observer Live, the flagship, the mothership of the Empire. Absolutely, you know, and we're gonna get into Raw. Last night. I do have a drop from from yesterday's show that we may be playing a little bit later on. It was from from Raw and it was, believe it or not, Maurice talking about her husband and how obnoxious he is. And I tell you what, I don't know full plate or not, but they were It sounded very familiar. It kind of sounded like what it was like what it

is like doing a show with Brian Alvarez. So that's maybe maybe we'll go ahead and play that, but we do have Raw to get into. But before we do that, there are some other things taking place inside the world of wrestling, not the least of which is New Japan who at home in Japan, they are readying themselves for three days of the Russell Kingdom Experience two at the Tokyo Dome one, facing off against Noah but but Tom.

They did actually announced yesterday that Sunday, March St. Petersburg, Florida, the Greater Tampa area, tickets are going to go on sale January three for New Japan Strong Style Evolved. No talent has been announced on the show yet. But going back to Florida, A, when's the last time you were there stomping around? I haven't been there in a few years. Actually, the last time I was there was without to kill k feb too much. It was filthy Island actually, uh

so whenever that was a year or two ago. Um, there has been no talent announced, But it's what fighting What is it fighting spirit of Strong Style Evolved? But they keep mentioning someone being unchained fighting spirit unchained, which the only unchained man I can think of is Maca Bay chained guerrilla who has not been over here in a long time. But I don't know if there that's a reference to something I don't know if maybe are the chains gonna be off that gigantic beast jonah by

then who knows what what it's a reference to. And A Strong is already been announced to be returning to the Vermont Hollywood in l A in February as well too, for a a strong taping New Japan Strong Rivals that's gonna take place on Thursday, February seventeen. Uh. You obviously as champion of the entire darn thing and the greatest man they have going there is going to be on that show. The man you just vanquished, Fred Rosser also there, j White, Juice Robinson, David Finley, as well as others.

But we've seen Tom here, Rashi come over. Obviously, Shabbata has been over here doing what he does. We've had Minora Szuki come over on excursions. We have had a

handful of guys come over. You brought up maccabee's name, and obviously for men of our age, people that have been watching New Japan for a few generations now, of young talent that has gone through their Maco Bay, we have watched basically come up as a skinny guy named Shinya and then develop into what became the im g P heavyweight champion, and he certainly has got a following and a style, and uh, he's a guy that a

lot of American fans really appreciate. He was one of the big guys coming up with you know, Tanahashi and nakam Wara and guys at that time. You know, Shinya Macabay, Toky Macabey was always is right there. Have you ever had any you know, what have your interactions if you've had any, been with him? And who would you like to see him over here? You know, not only Marcobay, but some other names that you may want to see him over here that you'd like to roll around with

and learn something from. I've had zero interaction with Maco Bay aside from watching him dump people on their heads with Spider German suplexes and then King Kong knee drops. Uh. But that's a guy that I would like to see come over here. I think that's somebody who the American fans would appreciate as uh having some sort of legendary status.

He's a former i w g P heavyweight champion. Uh. I myself would love to russell Zack Saber Jr. Obviously, and now that Shabbata is back in the ring seemingly that is undoubtedly somebody that I would like to get my hands on. I would have liked to fight Shabbata back in his dream days, uh Big Math Aloud days, kind of his mixed martial arts days. So this is kind of a a fight fifteen years in the making. The way I look at it, did you ever did

you care that member that? Because look there for a lot of people really they don't understand, you know, they Choo and Hashimoto in in Muda. You know, people think about those guys together, but a lot of American fans really don't understand like how big Hashimoto was in relation to Chono in Muda in Japan, and when it comes to Catsiori Shibata, he was one of the three Musketeers

alongside Nakamura and Tanahashi. But because of the landscape of Japanese wrestling, because of what Shabata wanted to do both shoot style and you know it fights, you know, real actual mm A fights. You know, he obviously left the nest and decided to go with y Station and and try to do Big math Aloud and try to do some other things what did you think about Shabbata then?

Obviously being involved in mixed martial arts, being involved in wrestling and starting your fight career, were you able to keep track of him and then and we're promotions like that, something that we're on your radar, you know, other or was it just pretty much Rings and things like that and you didn't worry about those other groups? Well, I mean by then Rings that kind of fallen, you know,

largely by the wayside. Most of the good talent that Rings had, like fad Or and Minnotoro who they kind of developed through the King of Kings tournaments, had moved on to pride Um. But yeah, I was well aware of what was going on in New Japan at the time. I was well aware of what was looked to be a huge future, a huge push for Shabbata and then you know, the kind of the turn that his career took um to me, I looked at it at that

time as a huge risk. Obviously, you know, uh, his status um and you know, his father's status in New Japan previously kind of helped elevate him, you know, right off the bat to a certain a certain level, and that kind of carried on into m m A. Because he has some big fights right off the bat, if

I remember correctly, who do you knock out Yamamoto? Very qui? Yeah? Yeah, So, uh he was given, you know, some good opportunities right off the bat and um, you know, I think that both New Japan at the time and you know later on dream uh try really you know kind of to give him these opportunities. And um, it's interesting the way obviously that it ended up turning out. And this story is far far from done seemingly, you know, everybody thought that this book was closed, and instead it's just a

chapter that ended. And now Shabbata is back. So uh, he's overcome I guess adversity in a lot of ways, uh, throughout his career, and I don't think this is gonna be any different. You know, a lot of fans looked at him. He's a different style and coming back to kind of what New Japan had done. Uh, he had to earn his way back into their good graces and he's definitely done that. He has. And I want you to ponder something as we go to break. How do

you bring Shabbata back? What should his match be? Should there be any limitations? Who should he face. That's what I want to know from filthy Tom Lawler when we get back on this edition of Wrestling Observer Live. Go back into the show, Mike Samber VV here whether your filthy Tom Lawler completely professional radio here Today Sports Piline Broadcasting Network Wrestling Observer Live. Tom, I put you in a an enviable position before the break, having you call

out what match Shabbata San should be in. Should there be differing rules like he had against Zack Saber Jr. Just grappling only he says his head is ready. What do you do if it was up to you and it can't be you, because I know that's who you would take if it was up to you. What do you do with with the catsy or Shabbata or or do you even try to do what he thing with Shabbata and just let him go out there and do

what he wants. Well, I don't really have much inside information despite being the reigning defending New Japan Strong open Weight Champion of the world, but including the title win which over Broder kings like seven wins and title matches, but who's counting? Uh. It appears to me that on the first night when Shabbata is stepping back into the ring. Suzuki does not have a matchup, so has been theorized that it will be Minoru Suzuki against Shabbata, which who

in their right mind would turn that down? But I actually would go in a different direction, and I would pick someone a little bit closer to home. I guess I would say, uh, someone who has assumed the form of Shabada in many ways, and I would have run Narita step in against Catsy or Shabbata. As it is kind of clear if you follow to Japan that he is set up to be the at least spiritual successor of Shabbata in many ways. It sounds like a great idea,

sounds like a fantastic idea. Now again, you're not in a position to kind of is there an actually you know what? Yes, I will press you what is there? Are there any tidbits that you can give people as far as Shabbata goes, because he has talked about the fact that you know what my head has, you know, my skull healed, it is stronger than ever. Yes, there are concerns about me taking punches. That's why I was

not in there was Zax Saber Jr. Doing that. But from what you have seen of Shabbata, as hard as he works, I mean, does it look like there's any limitations to him at all? And obviously we can't see inside of his head. We're not neurologist or any of that sort of thing. But when you see him training, is there any pause? Is there any thought that this person is not you know, turning back time and is

just the super athlete that he always was. I mean, you have to take what I'm going to say with, you know, a grain of salt, because I've been around Shabbata on and off, you know, at shows and stuff for a few years now, and I did have the fortune of going to the dojo, but it's not as if I'm there all the time. I you know, when I was there and everybody was training, he was in the ring training, he was doing everything that the other

wrestlers were doing. He went through the training session, then he lifted weights afterwards just as hard as everybody else was. And when you see the guy, he's in phenomenal shape. He's in, you know, just as good as shape as any of the other guys that are in that dojo. So I don't think that he's gonna show much in the way of slowing down or signs of slowing down.

I think it's gonna be similar to what we kind of saw against Zach Saber Jr. Perhaps his style is a little bit more tailored to grappling and a little bit less based upon very hard strikes. But I can't say that with any sort of certainty. I mean, if you've watched upon his career, and I think you could say that with any sort of certainty, so um, it'll be.

It'll be wild to see. But I'm looking forward to, you know, either just being an innocent bystander and watching him come back and apply his craft, or if I have the opportunity to get in there and fight him,

like I said, obviously, i'd love too. Did you ever think that for a guy that did like rings, for a guy that did like Amberateh for wrestling, for a guy that loves matt Work, appreciates that understands these transitions, understands all of that sort of stuff, and loves this, did you ever think that we would see in America kind of where we're at right now in the landscape, Because I know I didn't when it came to guys like Lee Moriarty, Jonathan Greesha and fred Ya hi Uh

you know, Josh Alexander, men like this that for so long, you know, I never thought would really truly get their due. They seem to be getting their due now. And it's because of men like you. It's because of promotions like New Japan Strong, It's because of just seemingly a I don't know what it is. I never thought that this would make it to the level where we're at. We're like legitimate, real pro wrestling that makes sense and is still entertaining, you know, is at the forefront, and it's

it's almost amazing. And I take a big l on that because I never thought that we would be able to to talk about it and appreciate it in the way that we are. Did you ever have any of those concerns? Did you ever care about any of that sort of stuff, or did you just always know you were going to do your thing and the rest of the world was going to catch up. I think that we can give a lot of the credit to the rise of mixed martial arts. I mean, it's very very simple,

because remember miss Martial Arts was gonna kill everything. That's what everybody, you know, everybody interview would start with, well if if if M M A was around when you started, what would you be doing? I mean it's like everything was starting like that. Think about little simple things like the strikes that we see now in American wrestling compared to the strikes that we saw before the rise of

mixed martial arts. Think about the inventing, inventing I don't know if that's even the correct term, but the invention of tapping out what was it before you cry? Uncle? You'd be screaming. Guys would be beating the matt repeatedly, and that just that simple. You know, change in the rule set added a whole new dynamic to it and made it more of a you know, really more of a sporting uh contest. But it allows people to work differently when they were in submission holes as opposed before,

and it added a level of drama that wasn't there before. Um. I myself loved, love, loved the w c W Cruiserweight division. You want to know what if you watched me wrestle, but I absolutely loved it because it was something different and you know who my favorite guy was in that

cruiseweight division. When I first saw Mike, it was Dean ma Lincoln because he not only was he doing something in not only just by being in the cruiseweight division was he doing something different, but he was doing something different than all of the other cruiserweights we're doing. And he was doing matt wrestling, and he was doing submissions

and they were dynamic. They were, you know, similar to moves that the heavy weights were doing, but you know they were just he was just that much better than everybody else because that's just that much more fluid and wrestlers like that. Um, you know, I think that's kind of timeless. Bret Hart. Right, look at the quote that Brett Hart just had. He said, guys don't wrestle like whole Cogan anymore. They wrestle like Bret Hart. Hallelujah, hallelujah.

Absolutely right. And you know we're seeing more and more promotions pop. I just saw the deal with Jonathan Gresham and you know, starting up his promotion a Terminus, you know, and with Baron Black and now it's gonna be lethal and more. He Harney, It's like that's gonna debut their first show, that's gonna be taking place in Atlanta. In in January and also announced for that show. You know we've got uh you know, Kara Hogan is gonna face

Jordan Grace, but you know they've already announced. Alex Coglan is going to be there, Daniel Garcia is going to be there, Freddy Ahi is gonna be there, Tracy Williams is going to be here. Here's another guy that that obviously fits into that as well too. And like you, for me, Dean Milenko, he was a you know, a huge revelation for me. You know, you saw the name, but I didn't have access to all Japan tapes. I didn't see small indies where Joe and Dean Milenko were on.

So to see Dean Milenko the first time you saw him, at least for me, doing what he was doing in the ring and being able to work with everybody, whether it was Ultimo Dragon, where it was Hooven to whether it was Ben Wah or Jericho or whoever. He was great. And the crazy part is it may kind of sound like a joke, but Adam and Somers and I talked about this. When it comes up on the Big Audio Nightmare, It's like Dean Milenko was over like Dean Milenko got over with that w c W crowd by being a

wrestler and by being who he was. And yes, he was a great foil for these high flying characters and some of these cool personalities like the Jericho's and the Mysterios. You know, he was a perfect foil for those type

of guys. But he was out standing and got over because of his work, and I don't think people really give him enough credit for that at a time where I mean it was really difficult in the Land of the Giants and in the land where on both sides of the ledger he had that going on, he had e c W, it was very hard to stand out. Did it didn't really go win the p W I five and people thought it was crazy. But it's like he's the best wrestler period. Yeah, and I think that.

I mean, if you watch him, you could transport him into today's wrestling and he wouldn't skip a beat at all. Uh And and you know, to go back to your earlier question, I just kind of always thought that that's what wrestling should be like. And it's you know, refreshing to kind of see professional wrestling where people are trying to win a sporting contest coming back to the forefront. Do you think professional wrestling should be more about that?

And we're about attacking people with several camera angles when you break into their dojo and having doppel gangers. Hey, I'm all about Red Arta being the Shabaa doppel ganger. Uh So perhaps I should I should be careful what I wish for because you're referencing Becky Lynch having a fake Becky Lynch waiting expecting Live More into unexpectedly attack her. Unbelievable. We we made it about thirty five minutes, but it's time.

We're gonna have to get into this raw show, which look, that was a great example of the segment where there were some really high highs and some unfortunate lows and something they gotta work out here. But we'll get into all of that sort of stuff. There's well as some other news as well. When we get back from Break Filthy, Tom Lawler, Mike Semper, VIV Wrestling Serve Alive back on

this show. Mixcept for Baby Filthy, Tom Lawler Wrestling ms ever Live Sensor is getting nervous right there west side. Going to begin things here, we have a should have two producers right now in the stream, there's actually four because Jared's doing the video and Tony is making sure that Jared is is not going to let anything out over the air that's going to make Brian angry. And then in the studio we have both both Brian and uh and uh Dom in there. So just in case anything, Daniel,

what did I say Brian? I think producer Rob is probably just at Brian's house. He's just hanging out outside waiting for Brian to let him back in. Daniel, I apologize, but you know, if you've heard this show and you've surely been paying attention to it, there's really no excuse for me. So, hey, Monday Night Raw was last night.

No excuse for this either of why we have waited this long to talk about other than I just didn't really want to talk about it for the whole show, but at least to be the main chair on a RAW review, it could have been a lot worse for me. I did not think this was a bad show. I think, honestly, the worst thing you can say about this show was it was three hours long, and if it was two hours long, it would have been a hell of a lot tighter, but I did like some of the stories

that they were telling throughout the thing. Although in the land of w w E, whether you are baby face partners with each other or whether you are heels, you are not going to like the person you are standing next to or traveling with or anything else is we have seen some seeds of discontent, uh now get dropped between Bobby Lashley and m v P. So we can add them to the pile of people who don't trust each other inside w w E. But I guess is

that's taking place filthy. Uh, Kevin Owens and Seth Rollins are starting to fortify their relationship a little bit more as they all lead into going into Day one to face off for Big Ease World Heavyweight Championship. And that's how this show started and that's how it ended. Yes, Mike, against all odds, it appears that Kevin Owens and Seth Rollins can indeed coexist. As you mentioned, they fortified their relationship, uh despite losing in the main event in kind of

embarrassing fashion. Bobby Lashly just he was teaming with Biggie, but he basically beat up both the guys. He ran through Biggie with a spear. He then ran through Kevin Owens with a spear and won the match essentially single handedly. But afterwards Seth Rawlins and Big E I'm sorry, Seth Rollins and Kevin Owens were able to lay out both

Biggie and lastly with the steel steps. Uh. You mentioned earlier seeds of discontent between Bobby Lashley and m v P, and that was what opened up the show and led to the main event which I just mentioned, um and was you know kind of alluded to throughout the show as Lashly through m v P to the Wolves in the opening segment or you know Big E. Yeah, that was. That was a interesting way that the show opened because lastly an m v P come out and obviously they are back together now an m v P is was

coming off of injury. They put him back together again and m v P was out there. He was basically over selling Bobby's accomplishments of facing off against everybody last week compared facing Kevin Owen, Seth ronson, Big E two, running and winning the Boston Marathon, scoring a triple double in the NBA finals and then going five rounds with Francis and Ghanu and then knocking him out. What in the in the post fight press conference, like, how does

that work? Exactly? But draw? I believe that they could then go to the extra round oun as if as if they're in the Uh? Is that how it worked in the wh that Ultimate Fighter. That's how that one worked.

Would you know anything about that show and how that works? Well, that's how it worked in the elimination fight between Demetri Johnson and Ian McCall like ten years ago for the flyweight title, when they had a draw and we're supposed to go to the extra round and the judges screwed up on the adding the scorecards and instead gave the decision to Mighty Mouse on the spot and they had

to go back and declared a draw. It is amazing how many times that has happened in boxing and mix's martial arts over the years, and how nobody gets strung up or beaten or sued or anything for that. It's just amazing. But that's a different story for a different day. But Biggie of course at that point comes out says hats off and cheese curds to you. I'm still I mean it's Milwaukee. I mean, I know it's a lot of cheese and everything. But like Wisconsin, wouldn't that be

kind of where you'd want to use that joke. Maybe he was just really hungry for putaine. I don't know what exactly it was, but Biggie called m v P Iceberg Slim tried to dog him for hitting him in the knee with the cane last week, and Lashly grabbed him Mike and said, well, you know, he did hit you with the cane, but I didn't need him to do that, And in fact, you know I don't need him at all. I can beat him myself and and m v P can beat you too, because that's what

he said. So, Pe, why don't you get in there with the cane and why don't you face off against Bobby Lashley? And as he does that, or face off against Biggie, as Lashly says that he leaves the ring, he backs up the cameras at his back. M VP's

got the cane. He's feeling good about himself. And then probably the highlight comedy point of the night for me is when Seth rollins in a like yellow in brown plaid suit out of nowhere, Screenwright comes diving out and jumps on Bobby Lashley's back with Kevin Owens right behind him. They start beating him down. Uh, Biggie comes out to try to help. He gets into it with everybody to everybody starts fighting Lashly in Big East and the other

two packing. That's how the segment closes, and ultimately that's what sets up the tag match main event. From there, we got a Bianca promo before her match against Due Drop. She's the e S team. She's gonna end this thing between the two of them. So that took place back from a break Owens and Rollins they are back. Yes, you know what was left off of the Hulu version that I watched? What's that Bianca and Due Drop? Are you serious? Out of all the things? Because I did

see that finish, I should have thought about that. I saw the finish, which was hot, and I would have loved to see the rest of the match because the crowd was up with their feet going crazy for the kod That was the hot I mean, so okay, So after she cuts that promo, Owens and Rollins are arguing backstage.

This is when Adam here Sincenny here and and they said, we're gonna make the biggest tag match in raw history, all the people that have been on Robert this this is gonna be one of the biggest matches in history. So they make the match for later on. Owens and Rollins aren't happy about that. But then we go to the ring for that Bianca bel Air Do Drop match,

which went about twelve minutes. It went through a commercial break, and those two are not Bailey and Sasha together, but they work really well with each other and can accent each other really really well. And the spot that I thought everybody had seen that they would want to show

off was do drop. Had missed a splash off the second rope, and then Bianca picked her up, hoisted her up on her shoulders, walked her into the middle of the ring and delivered the ko D. And as soon as she started getting her off on her shoulders and started to move, the fans started getting their feet They started to pop. This was not just the overlay of audio that w w E will put over something that

the track of the fans cheering. You can actually see fans getting up, throwing their hands in the air and cheering as she hits this ko D. Crazy impressive finish that everybody was into and they got the pin. I cannot believe actually they left that off. That's insane. Yeah, I mean it could been using for error on my part, but I don't remember seeing it. I did remember hit her fast forward, go back. I did remember seeing Austin Theory, you know, theorized that Vincukman's love of him is because

of all these great selfies that he's taken so far. Yeah. He he was in there next against Finn Valor, and this was another one that went through one of the commercial breaks, and ultimately Theory hit a I'll say this, he hit a really sweet uh seated springboard Spanish fly on Finn Valor and then tried to take a selfie as he pinned him, which led to a reversal in a two count for Balor. Bellor then reversed the t k Oh had a shotgun dropkick, and then to Kuda

Gras for the victory in about nine minutes. And even though Finnvalor got his shine got to celebrate at the end, it was very much uh noted that Austin Theory had screwed up again. And there's a point a little bit later on where he's about to go into Vince McMahon's office, but he's disappointed and he decides he's not going to do that. So that's where we get that. Then we get a we get a video package, uh from his

TV last week where Miss thanks to almost for. We see that, and then we see Miss thinking Almost for talking to m j Omas. Aj Styles walks up and and uh, he's very excited about his future with Omas, but uh, Omas still seems to be acting a little bit shady towards a j. Uh. Mrs just happy because he wants something that's going to be better than his wife on the cutting edge. So long story short, MS got in a dig against urban Meyer, but a J

was praising Almost. MS basically cuts Almost as promo for him, or Omas's promo for him that he can't cut, basically saying that, you know, a J is is kind of in his way and he's he's holding him back and he's he's holding him down. And when Styles went to question Omas for some reason, the Mysterios music hits and they come out. Why if these two guys who're about to have a match with are about to kill each other,

why did you decide to come out then? And if you did, why didn't you just come out with some popcorn as if you were the street prophets to to see what happened. Didn't really get that there, Tom Well, I will give the Mysterios a better for the doubt, because perhaps if they had waited for Omas, who you almost said, O Moss but you said almost, if they had waited for Oh Moss to beat up a J perhaps they wouldn't have had a match in the first place.

So they at least waited until Omas was almost at his wits end to then come out, which led to them picking up the win when a J almost tagged in Omas, but Omas refused the tag and he was a J was rolled up by Ray Mysterio, and then Omas laid out AJ Styles after the match. It said the next time he sees him, it'll be in a match, which I Mike, I seriously can wait for that because I do not want to see a J. Styles lose to Omas, and I have a feeling that's exactly where

this is headed. Hey, you won't be waiting very long. Brother man is gonna be next week. And one thing they noted during this match was a J. Styles is getting played down online by Grayson Waller of n x D two point oh, and aj is going to show up there tonight to face off against Grace and Waller. I have a feeling that Omas is going to be there too, and maybe Styles and Omas can can work on some things before their match coming up next week.

As you noted, Omas walked away from him, threw down the microphone on him, called him a trash ass, and and that was that. He was out of there. We at least got one great still shot of his face. Also, as we're getting close on time here to Randy or defeated Chad Gable went about three minutes, Otis went after Randy Orton somehow evaded three Orton archaos. How did that happen? It's because he's got no neck, which led to the

line no neck, no wreck. So if you're gonna see a new T shirt from Gable and Otis, it's probably gonna look like that. One of the key things that happened here to his m v P questioned Lashly in the locker room about, you know, hey man, were you gonna help me out? You know? In that deal with Lashy, we meet and the Kane and everything, and Lashly blew them off, and that was notable, and that's going to be a storyline that's going to continue on as we

keep going with this feud. Damian Priest counted out against Dolph Ziggler beat up Bobby Rude on the floor. That sets up Damian Priests and Dolph Ziggler next week as well to beer. Mahan is still coming to raw Ria

Ripley with a quick win over Queens Elena. And then we get back in the short little saying that we will get Tom's thoughts on Live Morgan and Becky Lynch and all of how all that went down movie back, Russians are alive, m and as your voice sounded good over that beat there, so look live more and everybody has seen this thing by now Live Morgan went to the Black and Brave Academy. Uh supposedly thought she was attacking Becky Lynch, but apparently it was a doppelganger. This

was one of those things where Tom great concept. I like what they did. I like doing something like that out of the ordinary, but they had to make it to w W E where they had multiple camera angles and things that didn't make any sense, and I thought they got too cute with it, and they're letting Live Morgan talk way too much with too much verbiage written out for What do you think about that? What do

you think about her and Becky Lynch? Well, I thought after viewing this segment that everyone else in this promotion is playing checkers and these two, these two are playing chess at the level of caspar off and deep blue. Becky Lynch set Live Morgan up to attack her unexpectedly and had a doppelganger in the ring waiting, and then Live Morgan like magically appears inside the ring and none of the trainees saw her or stopped her. This was

just too much for me. Uh, I Like you said, I like stuff that's outside the box, but hey, it's Christmas season. Maybe this one should go back in the box underneath the tree. Hey, I like watching both of them in the ring. I think Becky Lynch is an awesome promo, one of the best promos in wrestling, but this just didn't do it for me. It was too cute. I still like it because I like who involved, who's involved. I think Live Morgan can be a star. I think

she's somebody people can really get behind. But the problem is stop at the long promo. Stop giving her so much, give her what she can do, let her be a little more on her own, and let Becky take care of the rest of it, because she can certainly carry the rest of that load. And thank god I had some handles on my back today for filthy Tom Lawler to carry my as Tom you've done for this week

or what, man, Mike, We'll see. I'm just gonna let everybody know, live Morgan, Becky Lynch bo leave in yourself. You talking again, everybody after a while. You have been listening to the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network

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