Dynamite Surprises/NXT Ziggler Debut/Ratings Recap

on Dynamite tonight. We're going to have at least one debut, and certainly the rumors are that we will have to. So we got a lineup for the show tonight. We'll tell you about everything scheduled for the Dynamite show and some speculation about who the two big surprises might be if there are two, I think there's two, and all of the rest of the news coming out of a w Dynamite. We have also got an x T two

point oh last night, Everyone's Favorite topic. A lot of stuff happened on nx TEA, including the debut of Dolph Ziggler, who interrupted the summit between braun Breaker and Santos Escobar. This was the go home segment for their big match next week, but Dolph Ziggler was the focus of the segments. It was a little bizarre, we can tell you about that. And as noted the Raw ratings, Raw in fact drew its lowest audience in history and actually only the second

lowest eighteen to forty nine in history. This of course was the show that is pre empted due to the Olympics that moved to sci Fi. We talked about this yesterday. Not really anything to be overly concerned about. It is what it is. I mean, everything going up against the Winter Olympics is going to take a hit, whether that be W W E programming, a w programming, or whatever the programming might be. But we'll give you the the

hourly numbers and all of the details on Raw. Interestingly enough, the set an hour actually did the best of the three hours, So we'll go into the ratings and all of that kind of good stuff, and also updates on Yes, we are actually going to have a women's Dusty Cup, but you announced it will be taking place in a two weeks so apparently they now figured out who's gonna be and all of these teams, so we'll get into that.

Mikesp for viv Joints is and more. After the break Observer Live, but the show bran Over is here Wrestling Observer Alive, Mikes and Berviti also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Hello everyone, y'all enjoyed the toga party yesterday? I hope? So where's Mike now? He's there checking and it looks like we got a lot of people enjoyed it. I'm not blurry? Am I auto focus again? It's like, oh man, look at that? What is going on? Everything? I think we need to just manually manually auto focused it every

day for some reason? Is the color right this time? I don't know what's going on? All right, let's get right in the news here Tonight's Dynamite and obviously there's a lot of speculation about who who's debuting on the show tonight. Tony Kahn continued to pound the drum. It says here from Wrestling Observer dot Com with multiple media outlets that Wednesday's Dynamite from Atlantic City, New Jersey will

be special for several reasons. Speaking of both people the inside are busted open and separate interviews contact about tonight's surprise news signing that will debut against Isaiah Cassidy in the face of the Revolution qualifying match in the show. In general, he says, I'm going to try to satisfy a lot of fans tonight. I had a lot of

thoughts over the weekend and what that means. I pivot had some plans in the last few days in a good way to make tonight's show even better, told puple Insiderythings designing is a quote major one for them and that he hopes people's expectations will be met, also saying that even if the person isn't one of the guests, as fans have, that does not change the possibility of

them showing up in a w in the future. He said that while there are a lot of fun things planned for Wednesday already, there is more that they have not announced, some of which will come today and into the evening. There is also gonna be some really exciting things on the show that have not been announced yet. He said he was non committal to p w Insider on whether there will be more than one debut tonight. I don't want to get too specific to say exactly

what's going to happen. It's going to be a great night for the fans. I promise there will definitely be one surprise, and I think there will be some other really fun stuff along the way to Part of cons approaches listening to the fans, which is driving some of what they will see Wednesday. I really do value the

feedback from the fans, what they have to say. Part of the reason I'm going to do a lot of things we're gonna do on tonight's shows because I listened to the fans in their voice and what they want to see. There's a lot to look forward to on this show. So announced his Hangman Page Lance Archer, Texas death Match and appearance by m jf Isaiah Cassidy versus a debuting top wrestler, and an Inner Circle team meeting.

Tony con also said the new debuting star walking through the Forbidden Door on Wednesday's Dynamite will also set up this Friday's rampage. He called it a huge signing. It's gonna be a big reveal on Dynamite. It sets up this week's rampage, puts a lot of iron on the fire. We have created an environment in a w W W where people routinely expect great wrestling matches, and we have wrestlers

to live up to those expectations. I've created some debate about what it means to open the forbidden door, and that's what we're going to do here on this show, he said. I recently asked Danielson and Jade Cargill, who's already starting an amazing runs our TBS Champion, to work together. Brian is gonna be training Jade Cargill. Well, that's good coaching. I guess it would be better. So anyway, it's gonna be tonight. Who's gonna be tonight? Anybody? I'll tell you,

I think it's gonna be who I believe. And I'm not reporting this because I I don't actually know who's gonna be there tonight, but I I believe that tonight you will see the debut of Keith Lee and you will also see the A E W debut of j White. I do believe that both of those people are gonna be there tonight. They might not be, and as Tony conn noted, maybe the debuting wrestler is not Keith Lee. Well, if that's the case, maybe Keith Lee is going to

show up later on. But it appears. Here's the two things that I can tell you that appear inevitable Jay White. At some point, it's going to appear for a W. He's promoted it himself on every New Japan Strong show that I've seen in the last couple of months. Now, whenever he's got a live mike, he's gonna show up at some point. I think it's gonna be tonight. Keith Lee his his uh, he's likely likely signed with with

a W. UH. We'll find out soon enough, but I believe that Keith Lee is going to end up in a W one way or the other. So that's why I think it's gonna be here tonight. Could be other people, but that's my prediction. Now, I know you're you're kind of allergic to it, you know, but do you want to have some fun here a little bit? Since I hate fun? I know you have streperous little man you. But you know, we've talked about a lot of names, names that you know won't be there for contractual reasons,

like Jeff Hardy. Names that could be there like Keith Lee, Johnny Gargano, some people talking about I would say with nine certainty it's not gonna be Johnny. But I'm just saying, you know, there's all these names that have kind of been floated out there, with Keith Lee being the most obvious one in j White like you men, and I think that would make a lot of sense for tonight. But there are a lot of new Japan contracts that

had run out. So could we see Camatonga, g O D. Could we see Juice Robinson who I think Juice Robinson fit Finley I think would be a great addition in a lot of ways. Fly that would be a great addition. I'm sorry, David, I'm sorry, it's I'm old and your father was great. Um, Look, you don't know Bandido Rush. I don't know where they fit in because of politics

with Mexico and things like that. But you know, it's interesting to think about some names that are out there that could come in that people are not as hyper focused on, which could make it really cool, especially if you do get a keep Belie and then you do get a left field surprise, and I guess for some people that would be j White. But you know, again, there's so many names out there that could come in

and be impactful. Again, Juice Robinson, I think, and again I don't know the situation of impact or any of that stuff. I think he would be as addition onto the a W roster. Here's the deal. What I love to see Juice Robinson and David Finley and a W. Of course I would what I like to see any number of of talented New Japan wrestlers there. Yes, but here's the deal. Tony Khan has has built this up big, Okay. I love Juice Robinson, I love David Finley. No, no, no, Look,

I'm saying that not only as the only person. I'm saying along with Safe of course I would. No, the secondary person has got to be someone like J White to me, Like I I mean, if people are expecting somebody from New Japan to step through the forbidden door, I'm sure that like the real hardcorees would be excited for Juice Robinson and David Finley. But J White is at the top of the of all people. By the way, Mike, you're the biggest J. White fan in the world leaving

on top of this pyramid. Look, but do you want to shoot that wade I'm looking at A double shot is over with me? You know. I want to do this tonight because Raw, even though it was on Sci Fi, it did a terrible number. So you know, both shows this week. I mean, man, this is I don't know. If they could beat Raw in viewership and eighteen forty nine, it would uh eighteen and forty nine. I think they can easily beat Raw. Actually total viewership. I'm not sure

about that, but they it's it's not impossible. You're right, You're absolutely right. But that's gonna be established because there's going to be a surpriser too, you know what I mean, J White? Unless J White debuts at the very beginning of the show and then we see numbers rise, which could very well happen if J White is on your show. That's how much I believe in that guy, best wrestler in the world. Take that Osprey anyway, Look, if the

number is gonna be set, I think so. I don't know if that's him being on the show is going to be that it's not going to cause the number to go up. That that die I think is already cast going into the show tonight. So here's what Raw did, lowest audience in history, second lowest eighteen to forty nine in history. The show did one point three nine million viewers at an O point three six and eighteen to

forty nine. I would be very surprised if Dynamite did not beat that point three six, but they have done one point three million before. But they would basically need to do one point four million for the show tonight, and I I don't think there's much of a chance of that happening. With the move to Sci Fi due to the Winter Olympics, record lows were expected. Demo number actually is raw second ever, as the December six raw on USA did a point three five went up against

the Bills versus the Patriots. Raw still third on cable, behind Olympic coverage on the USA network, the five to eight coverage doing one point eight one million viewers and a point three at an eighteen and forty nine eight to midnight two point oh seven million viewers and an o point four. Oh so, I mean, honestly, honestly, like,

these numbers are not terrible. I mean, when you look at them, they sure sound terrible, but considering the show was moved to Sci Fi on Monday night and if you watch the show, it wasn't like they packed the show or anything like that. I mean, these are not terrible numbers. The uh oh, I hear the music, Well, too bad. I'm gonna go through the break the main Olympic events aired on nb I'm just kidding. Back at the moment Observer Live. Back in the show, Bryan Albert

is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike some per viv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. We got a tough guy in the YouTube chat. Yeah, oh yeah, he's a tough guy. He's gonna call in and school me later. Oh yeah, on what I'll be waiting. Well, you know, he's he's ranting about how much Dynamite sucks because they have never come close. He says to what they did for their very first a W Dynamite, and uh, I made note that, you know, the very first SmackDown on Fox and four

million viewers, and they've never come close to that. In fact, they're two million away from what they did for that first show on Fox. But apparently this doesn't count, you see. So he's gonna school me as to why it's different that the SmackDown debut on Fox being half of what they did for their first show is fine, but a W being down a couple hundred thousand from their their peak is horrible. I'll be interested to hear this myself.

Because I'm one of those people. I put a little bit more weight on that he won't call though probably not, you know, but I put a little bit more weight on that benchmark than say, like Dave doves Dave dismisses it. Go it's always gonna drop fifty cent or whatever it is. And that's understandable, but it's also shows you that, Okay, this is how many people at least one time. That's

always the goal that you're going to shoot for. And obviously there's little things here and there, and for right now, a W I think you know, their number is a million, and when he comes to w W E, when he comes to RAW, I mean, what's their number one point four million at this point, one point five million, one point six million. And you know, it's not that dramatically different. Now SmackDown obviously is different being on the Fox network.

But I mean, I I just think, if that's what you're gonna try to call in and use as the reason that Dynamite sucks, like that's the best you got. Don't bother calling in? Really, you know, he could text an email as well. Briant Wrestling observation because it makes it a lot more pain zo seven five six six. I stepped on the number. Give it again four to five seven eight zero seven five six six. I'll read

it verbatim unless you swear. I can't to do that. No, No, let's see the first hour of the show one point three eight million viewers, second hour rose to one point four five million, and then UH tumbled again at UH one point three four million viewers. So those are the raw numbers for for Monday. And keep in mind, I mean same, same deal could happen with Dynamite, happened with the rampage and SmackDown last week because the Olympics are

a powerhouse. I haven't actually checked how the Olympics are here. I hear their way down in viewership, is that right? I have no idea. It's not a clue we actually are for me because I'm not watching the hockey and that's usually the only thing I watch. Alrighty w W revealed when this year's Women's Dusty Classic will be kicking off. U last night's at X T, it was announced the Women's Dusty roodse At Tag Team Classic would begin in

two weeks. I feel like I've heard that before and I see will be back on USA that night after two straight weeks of airing on Sci Fi. So yeah, n x T on Sci Fi yesterday. We're gonna get that number in about thirty minutes. Maybe this bloc will talk about how great that number is. Well, he's at it.

List of teams will take part of the Women's Dusty Classic if yet to be announced for Kell Gonzals in Court, jade Eo Shrii and Kaylee Ray and Lyssa Leone and Valentina Ferraz have been set up as three of the teams that will be taking part in the tournament. It's always starting, of course, is out of action this story. Should I do the I'll do the n x T report after the break. Might need a little bit of

time ample time. This show is is is funny and bad, although I do, uh, there are things that are Memphis show. I mean, you know it's funny too. I'll talk about the Creed Brothers. They're great. Okay, here's the thing with these Creed brothers. So we got Julius and Brutus. They should have been part of our toga party last night, by the way, and uh so, uh if I recall correctly here correct me if I'm wrong. Julius is the taller one, right, and Brutus is the short, stocky one.

Is that right? Okay? So uh, I watched the show, and and maybe Dave was confused or maybe I don't know. He says that they are very high on Julius. He's the taller one, okay, And I you know, they do like guys that are tall and everything like that. But man, I watched these two guys, and man, I am so much more into Brutus than Julius. Like Julius is fine and all, but but of the two of them, Julius is the one that looks like he's gonna kill somebody.

And he's also like he's tall and all, but he's he's you know, I don't want to say he doesn't he's kind of Yankee. He's kind of a tall, lanky, normal looking guy to me. And Brutus, I mean, he puts the brute in Brutus. This guy is a thick, powerful, mean looking you know. I just think that he's got way more upset at this point, and he and Julius looks more green than his brother. Like when I see the two of them in there, I feel like Julius is the one that needs way more work than than

Brutus does. But they're a fun team when they're in there with guys that can like carry them to a good match. You put them with two guys that are also green, and it's just like the wrong kind of violence. You know, something's gonna get killed. But that's it. I mean, I believe every single thing that they are doing everything. When they fall out of the ring on their heads, in the top of you know, on their necks, I believe that when they are thumping around they were doing

the deal with the knees. I thought that was a great spot, you know, the back and forth with delivering the knees and the guy rolls over. I I thought that was awesome. I think they're great. And they are again that old expression of puppies with big paws, both of them and I. And it's unfortunate that we're already hearing that they are favoring one over another, because it's

just to me, it's like the USOS. You just put these two guys together of the Steiners for as long as you possibly can, because the mileage you can get out of them as a team is I'm not saying it's infinite. But I mean, we've seen this formula work and pro wrestling for a gazillion years. With two meat head brothers out there just recking shop on people, I think it's great. All right, Well, let's do some of the feedback here and then we'll go into this. Uh this deal here is full n x T review in

a in a moment. That's all the major news. By the way, today, we're just waiting to find out what happens on Dynamite, So uh, let's see what we got. Any scoops or hints on the ADEP I should read him before I read him. Do you have it? It's two now listen if you missed the first part of the show, I believe I believe it is. Keith Lee and Jay wat will be debuting on the show here tonight. And I know that you know, some people are are up in arms about this term forbidden door, and h

Keith Lee is not walking through a forbidden door. You not fired from the other place, Isn't that? I think Tony just like the term forbidden door was used a lot, and so he appropriated it and he's going to use it. Obviously. Keith Lee is not stepping through any forbidden door. And obviously, now that they're working with New Japan, it's not really a forbidden door anymore. But I believe that Ja White coming in would be considered stepping through his idea of

the forbidden door. And uh and Keith Lee, you know I don't get to hang up hung up on these words. You know what I'm saying, Like, does anyone ex expect that someone under contract with w w E's coming in because they're not gonna No one from w w E. Ali, You know what I'll tell you, No one from a W is gonna be in this year's Royal rumble? Are you sure I'm gonna be like that guy last year that did this prediction of something that had already occurred.

He didn't win, by the way the voyagers that prediction contest I did. I won. I was the winner. It's right now, d O U c H. You can do a prediction contest and people claim that you rigged predicting the future. You can't do that. I accurately predicted the future better than anybody, and so I'm the winner. If you don't like it, you predict the future. I've only won once you've sullied this whole process and a trophy. I mean honorable people like myself, Tara Jim in Virginia.

I mean we were past winners and we you know, we really brought that honor up and raised it up for the people. Now Here, you come bastardizing the whole thing. You want to talk about appropriation. Here, you just come in wanting to do something so you could buy yourself some more gold. That The fact of the matter, Mike is if I were really like not fair or unfairly rigging, you wouldn't have won last year. But you did. So that's everything everybody needs to know about how fair this contest.

The last thing I want to do is award you with a plaque. But I did because I'm a fair man, I'm undeniable, and I put it up to a vote and I was the winner. On your Twitter, Yeah, the worst place for me to put a poll on whether or not I should win. This person says a lack of a card als for Dynamite adds to the spookiness and mystik of the show. This person says, what is going on, well, spookiness and mystique. Yeah, spooky is a

mystique for tonight. The person says, of course they beat Malik Blade and Dress and No in the semis when they could have gone on to win the whole tournament. Listen, I love those two guys. They should not have won that tournament. They were fine last night. They were carried all right, but they are green and going as far as they went is fine. And uh, you know, the bigger issue with them being geeks is like there's so many geeks on this show in terms of like, you know,

they can't ask out anybody on a date. They're just too nervous. And then on top of that, either j B or b J whichever one is, is horrible with women. He's also poor. They added that last night, can you believe it? Getting them ready for the man roster back in a moment with more Observer Live already, let's talk about this n x T at two points. Oh show last night on sci Fi so no pup with the Creed Brothers and the Grizzly Young Vets. We talked about this.

I had fun watching this match. Grizzled Young Vets are a fun team, and Creed Brothers, I mean, as I said, they can be they can be carried to a degree. It's not like gonna be a four star match or anything like that, but it's gonna be fun. And uh, Brutus pinned Gibson with his sliding D which they don't call the sliding D. I don't know why. So that

was that. Then we had a core Jade interview and she's with Raquel and Valentina Ferraz and Ulyssa Leone interrupt and uh, the three women that could speak Spanish start yelling each other in Spanish, but core Jay doesn't speak Spanish, so she's just baffled. And it ends with Raquel saying something like, I can't believe they said that about you, and then she walks off. Of course that's what they

say about me. It was wacky. We had Tiffany Stratton versus Wendy Chew and it was not as bad as last week, but the fans are still way more into Wendy Chew wrestling than pretending that she's sleeping the middle of the match and tripping to Tiffany Stratton beat her. They're just doing a match and she did like a twisting splash deal and Pinder it was like there was no bill to it. There was no near falls. It was just she beat her. So it's like you have

a Vader Bomb with a barrel roll. It was weird. It was just a full twisting Vader bomb. But I mean just a full twisting Vader bomb. Dude. She was she was all right, lever he was a high level gymnast. You could do that or sleep. It was a single twist. Yeah, they've dude. They did have vign Yetta. Her father paid for to be an Olympic gymnast. Of course they know that. Again, don't look. I don't know if don't get all like that.

It's just it was a cool looking move. I mean, if nothing else that was, that was a cool looking finishing move. We had Pete Donne meeting Draco Anthony. Holy smokes, you want to talk about guy's not ready to be on television, Draco Anthony and he was in there with Pete Dunne just preponderously green. Is that a word? He was very green? And so he won and then we had the interview or the segment afterwards with uh Tony D'Angelo coming in, tried to attack him and lung story short.

Next week, they're not only having a cage match, but they're gonna have a weaponized cage match, which means there's weapons in the cage. It's weaponized hat on a hat. But you know what, in the case of Tony D'Angelo, that's the best thing you can do. I mean, you hide him with as many gimmicks as possible, and you put him in there with a great wrestler in Pete Donne. So I mean, this is the best you can do is to have him tried to learn on the fly.

We'll talk about a little bit later on with MSK getting the win and how that goes on to actually really help the Creed Brothers winner losing that Dusty final. First, here says Draco is listening right now with a tear in his eye. Bro, this is nothing against Draco. Why do why do people always get mad at me if I say someone's green, Like, what do you expect him to be? I think he's had like whatever. I mean, he's green. It doesn't mean he's a bad person or

or like he shouldn't be employed. It just means he needs more in ring and he shouldn't be on TV yet. And Bro, when I had three matches, I wouldn't want to be on National TV either hell night. And speaking of Green Songa, guys seen Songa. What was the woman's name that had the match last week that I was just laughing and I begged you all to go watch the match? What's her name? Somebody on the chat alert me. Anyway, this guy is the male version of whatever. Not not

Rhonda Rousey, you geeks. Someone just mentioned her name a little earlier here. Anyway, you wanna know you want me to describe Songa. Do you guys haven't seen Songa? Yeah? Okay, No, she was on n x T last week and she was all Kayla Inlay, thank you. This is the male version of Kayla Inlay. Okay, So do you want me to describe SONGA? Imagine a very green bron Stroman. That's Sana. He is big and he's short term fast, you know, like you know if if short term fast. Yeah, so

like if quick explosive bursts. Basically like if you if you saw, if you saw bron Stroman, what he had to like go from the middle of the ring to the corner. He could sprint really fast, but if they made him do that run around the ring, like he wasn't moving very fast and he didn't look very athletic. This Songa is is good in short berths and like he works exactly like Stroman, except a totally green and over the top version of bron Stroman. And I was I listen, it's w W E so I couldn't even

blee my eyes. L A. Night beat him, pinned him in the middle of the ring. For football terms, he comes off the ball quickly, so he he pinned him, and then Grace and Waller tried to sneak attack and Night avoided it. And uh, there you go. They're gonna be They're gonna be feuding. But man, I like, I see a guy like Songa and I just have my Vince McMahon brain on and it's like they're they're gonna d cue the guy or do a count out or

something like that. But nope, it got pinned. It's like when Big Show showed up in in w W E and Vince, you know, oh this soup, this big what was this? The Giant is giant? They don't know a book a Giant. I'm gonna book him like Andre the Giant. Three weeks in Steve Buson pined him in the middle of the ring. Yeah, well we had this is a storyline. Remember we were talking about how they want women viewers and so like they do, like they got like nine

romance storylines going on. So Duke Hudson doesn't interview, and uh, what's Indeed's partner's name, Pera Persia Parada. So Persia Parada likes Duke Hudson, thinks he's a handsome man. So Duke Cutson does his interview and then he paused, and he comes back and he goes, I just want to wish Indie luck in the Dusty Classic, not Persia Indie. This leads to a kerfluffle later. So we had this Championship summit.

We've got braun Breaker out there with Santos Escobar and they're kind of going back and forth because I got a championship match next week, and all of a sudden, whose music should hit? But Dolf Ziggler. And Ziggler comes down to the ring and he sits in a chair, and uh, you know I've mentioned before I do this for a living, but I stay off Twitter as much as I can. Well, to my dismay, apparently I've missed like a week's worth of storylines by not going on Twitter.

Ziggler starts cutting a promo about what braun Breaker has said about him on Twitter, and I'm I am lost. I have no idea what's going on with braun Breaker and Dolph Ziggler on Twitter. So they're having this conversation that's in like you know, some other parallel universe, and I'm just baffled. But apparently braun Breaker has been saying things about Ziggler on Twitter, and so now Ziggler has

shown up and he's mad about it. So now Ziggler and braun Breaker having this conversation for Santos Escobar standing there like a dork like yeah, So I'm flabbergasted, and then uh so, finally Chompa comes out, and now Chompa is arguing with Ziggler and finally Santos Santa because what is happening here. I'm the guy who got a championship match next week, and so this, I mean, the fans were in his Ziggler because like, you know, a guy from up there blessed these blokes with his presence. But

I mean, you know, Ziggler was good and all. I have nothing against Ziggler's performance, but I just, you know, all this Lance Archer tonight and all this talk about how Lance Archer needs to get a win and you know, be dombin poor talk about making this guy do a geek. I mean, Santos Escobar came off as such a geek

in this segment. And it looks like we're gonna have Chompa versus Ziggler I guess down the road and h Escobar and braun Breaker in a match that like no one on the planet thinks Escobar has a chance in, even less so after the go home segment. So I don't know about that one. So I beat Kota Kai, just dropped her on her head neck with the suplex and pinders. She killed her. We had a segment with Carmelo Hayes and Trick Williams in a barber shop, you know,

talking about how cool they are and all that. There's something else we had G G and j C backstage. Well, first Indian Persia. This is just so wacky. So this is another one that maybe maybe I'm missing something on social media again, but Indian Persia backstage, and Persia is upset that her man, her wanna be man, said good luck to Indie but not herself, and Indy's trying to

you know whatever. So then g G and j C show up and they have a photo that was taken some time ago, I guess of Indie Heartwell and Duke Hudson together like a sporting event or something like that. So they're trying to make it out like, oh, Indie, actually, you know, she's closer to this guy than than Persia thinks, and maybe more than her husband thinks as well. And then a brawl breaks out, and this show is just it's like a soap opera, and not necessarily a great one.

Not necessarily well, I don't watch soap operas, so it's hard for me to I can't fairly say it's better or worse. I don't watch Young and the Restless or anything like that, not this pretty good one. Anyway. Look, it's like a big budget remedial nineties style Memphis show. You got some people on there, Yeah, the Young and the Wrestlers. That should be the name of this show. That's a good one. Somebody trademark that. It's like Forbidden Door. Has anybody trademark that yet? The t K do that one?

But hey, I they really sacrificed, you know, Santos to get to that you know, jump start chomp On Ziggler and put them in the mix with bron break or I I don't know, I do you think this is really all going to lead basically to a four way? And you know, I don't know, but you know you're you know, you're a geek and I love listen. I say he's a geek because in the storyline he's a geek, but like, I'm the biggest fan of Santos Escobar and

that's actually why I'm so mad about it. But you know you're a geek when you're the number one contender for the guy's title and another guy walks out and immediately the fans start channing triple threat because they'd rather see the other guy in the match, And then the other guy comes out Chompa and now they're chanting for a fatal four way, So go Lee, Well, can you imagine I gotta I gotta nitpick this is more or I'm gonna send the put up the landstorm stern face

bat signal because during that first matches where it really stood out to me, but it was driving me nuts the referees. You know, you got that spot where they put Cass with what's his wrestling creed under the ring and they do the deal where they yank him up and he hits his neck on the steel underneath the ring and they throw him back in and you know, they throw a chin lock on him where it's like,

you know, he's choking them. But I'm looking at the referee and the referees just dancing around arms and it's like, I know it's a lost art, but it's like, can you just try to check the can you do that please? And this is it? I know, it's not only there, it's pretty much everywhere. I mean, main event. Bryce Remsburg is great, you know, I did, uh what's her name, Aubrey Edwards? I think is great, you know, but I

this is I know, it's a small thing. And when you were looking at the wrestlers and some of the things that they screw up on, to me, it's again it's like guys not being developed to be good wrestlers. Referees aren't being developed to be believable in the least. You know, had referee the referee coach was fired, they had a referee coach. Well, let me finish this real quick. MSK beat Edressenope and Mullike Blade. This is a good match,

although it was all God bless him. Msk Edres and Molly can do some cool spots, but they are green. But I still I still enjoyed myself watching this match. And then Mandy Rose Kaylee Ray, I mean, Mandy Rose does the match and uh, Dolan and j C distract the wrath Mandy knee strike just pinzer in the middle of the ring. How's it very? Uh? It was very uh anticlimactic. And then EO Shia ran in, So she's gonna be teaming with Kaylee Ray and the Women's destin

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