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Dynamite Ratings/Impact Wrestling/Mustafa Ali

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Bryan has Dynamite ratings recap, Impact Wrestling news, and an update on Mustafa Ali and his request to be released.

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Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network, live from San Francisco. I'm a sports byline broadcasting network. You are listening to Wrestling Observer Vibe with your hosts Brian Alvarez and Mike Semper vv. Are you ready? Are you ready? Let's get it all? How's it going to everybody?

Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific three eastern Sunday three Pacific sixth eastern Friday here, and you know what that means. We got a lot to talk about. And not only do we have a lot to talk about on this show, but Lance Storm returns in about two hours to Pacific five eastern figure four daily with land Storm, Wrestling Observer dot com, Video, dot f W online dot com.

He was off last week because he did a couple of extra shows for US, but as usual, Friday show returns today. On this show, we have a lot of news, including Dynamite ratings for Wednesday night show did well and in fact to beat Raw in eighteen to We have updates on Rampage tonight. One of the matches is off the show as a result of a COVID nineteen protocol, so we'll give you the lineup for the show coming up here tonight. It is a live episode of Rampage.

I was reading something yesterday. There was a thread. I don't even know where it was, but somebody was mad that I had spoiled Rampage tonight because I I basically told you who I expected to win all the matches. The show's live. I actually didn't give any spoilers. It hasn't been taped, but anyway, we'll talk about the show coming up tonight more on Mustafa Ali. We got some Impact Wrestling notes that kind of main event for No Surrender the Championship match next month. Lance will talk about

more on the Impact show on the Figure four Daily episode. Today, we've got Buddy Matthews returning to m l W, which has the big show in Dallas this weekend, which unfortunately the von Erics will not be wrestling on as a result of a COVID anybody not have COVID right now. We've also got some ticket sale notes. We haven't done these for a while, but we're gonna get into that today, and we should also have time for your feedback, maybe

even your phone calls. How exciting would that be. The phone number as always four to five seven eight zero seven five six six. That is the text message line. Send me a text message to zero seven five six six Brian at rustling ober dot com at Brian Elbours on Twitter. Back in the moment of Deserver Live. Here's a simple solution for you. If you have back pain, knee pain, or any other pain in your body, It's as simple as drinking a glass of water every day.

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Observer dot com. The reunion of Rappongi Vice will have to wait a while longer, as Rocky Romero's t aposit for a COVID Night Team will not be On Friday's live edition of a w Rampage, Romero sitt to team with former teammate Trent Barretta against the Young Bucks in Washington, d C, rekindling a rivalry that really took flight in the Rings of New Japan Pro Wrestling. In its place will be the Bretta Nick Jackson match, which was first announced by Tony Conn and Busted Open Radio on Friday.

Concept called there's a good chance there's going to be a small change to the match due to medical protocols. Before announcing the new singles encounter, Con also said that Moxley versus Ethan Page will kick off the show and Jade Cargill and Anna j Is the main event. Makes sense. Hook is also scheduled for action against their Pentago in the former's first ever live match. Mm hmm, so there well mystified maybe by the well I'm i'm, I'm, I'm. I don't know if I mystified until I watch the show.

But given what they have done with long Jade Card Deal matches lately, I realized sees the champions, she probably should be closing the show. But I I, if let's just put it this way, if they're planning on going twelve minutes for Jade Car Deal and Anna J, I don't know if that's the match I would main event the show with. But if there's gonna be a three minute Goldberg style destruction of Anna J and the main event, and then somebody comes out to challenge Jade Car Deal

and you do an angle, I'm cool with that. Let just put it that way. I guess the for me, no matter where you put it, if it goes twelve minutes, it's not gonna be a good idea. You know what I'm saying, Well, it's not an idea if this goes twelve minutes, regardless of where it goes on this show exactly. And to me, with a show that's like Saturday Night's main event, you're gonna get your highest viewership. You're gonna want to make the biggest impact to start the show.

You know, it makes complete sense to me that see him Punk will go ahead and start the show. I mean, you know, so I I'm sorry, John Moxley would go ahead and start the show with Ethan Page. I mean that makes the most sense to me, and then I would roll out hook next, and then I would have that longer match and then to me lead into you can still say it main event of the show. It's not an insult. You know that the the TBS Championship is going to main event rampage. I know people will, hey, well,

isn't John Moxley and starting the show the main event? Yeah? You look at it both ways. Okay, you know it works for everybody. The bottom line is, of all of these matches, that's the one that needs to go short, and they need to figure out a way to make it go short, or if it's gonna go a little bit longer than three minutes, you better have some stuff from the outside. You better have Mark Sterling involved, you

better have John Silver involved, whatever. But you're gonna have to do more than just rely on those two to have a you know, again, it's nothing against him, it's the experience level. But to have them have a main event match, they're gonna need all the help and as and bhustles and distractions they can get the Dynamite ratings for Wednesday showed it well one point oh three two million viewers, up six point five percent from last week. Best viewership number on TBS to date is the show's

best audience ince October two. Dynamite top the cable charts with an O point four four and eighteen and forty nine, So Yes, It's a beat. Raw, which did an O point for three, up twelve point eight percent from the previous week, finished ahead of two NBA games that aired on ESPN, including beating the game it went head to head with by fifteen point eight percent, So Yes, Dynamite

was number one on cable. I want to get an NFL playoff game, but was up in the demo from last week, which had a competition from the College Football National Championship Dynamite. The biggest increase was with women eighteen to forty nine shows up twenty three point one for sent to a point three two and there you go.

I've actually got the quarters from Brand and Thirst. Essentially, what happened was the show started super high, and uh, it didn't fall the entire time, but there was there was a minor decline in most of the segments with the exception of the ten o'clock hour, which I think was the Cody promo where it went up and they started going back down again. But they are absolutely helped by the lead in that they get. So hey, listen whatever. I mean, there's a reason Rodd overruns. There's a RAW

that often followed big shows. I mean, if you can get a big lead in same with any show, then that's good for you. So that's the numbers four the week. Yeah, especially one that I would have considered long in the two if I know it was a really popular show, but I was really I'm surprised in the way that they're keeping women and and keeping them involved in watching

the show. So you know, kudos to them, and and good it's good to have a good week when your opposition has a bad week and was loaded up against and that's what happened to Raw. So if you're an a W fan that loves to dunk on other people online and stuff like that, just be careful because you know, at some point football goes away, and as we move towards Mania season, it's gonna be it's gonna be tough.

You know, it'll be interesting to see. I mean, obviously the numbers are are close, and they're going to be somewhat in battle, but for the most part, Raw still holds that advantage. So I'd be very careful if you're looking at dunk on others right now. Are we guess some ticket sale notes here which are a mixed bag. SmackDown Tonight is at the Bridgestone Arena in Nashville, Tennessee, and fifty seven hundred tickets out eight seven percent full.

There's about eight hundred tickets left for the show tonight. Raw on Monday has got forty eight hundred tickets out full. They got about a thousand tickets left. They've just opened up a new upper deck. This is the Raw go home for the Royal Rumble. That is UH Toledo SmackDown next week, which is the SmackDown go home show for the Royal Rumble. Is currently a thirty nine hundred fans and they've got twenty five hundred tickets still out. It's

only six full. That's the T Mobile Center in Kansas City, so that one has got a long way to go. And then the post Royal Rumble Raw is also at thirty hundred fans. It is only seventy full and they've still got fifteen hundred tickets remaining. Rampage tonight is uh at twenty six hundred fans at the Entertainment and Sports Arena in Washington, d C. That is seventy full, but

there's still tickets remaining. Dynamite in Cleveland, which is this coming Wednesday, is currently full, fifty hundred fans and tickets left. And then the February second Dynamite. This is actually the one to watch, the February second Dynamite because this is the show from Chicago. It is currentlyts out, two thousand

tickets remaining. It's full, but I would expect they're shooting an angle in Cleveland that is going to lead to a big match in Chicago, and that might be It's possible that Chicago will be CM Punk versus m JF. And so if that match ends up taking place, because Punk did a promo and basically said that this match with with MGF is going to take place in the last place MGF wanted to take play sin, I presume that's Chicago. So if they announced see him Punk versus

m JF for Chicago on Dynamite, we should see. Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens to those remaining two thousand tickets right there. So it's possible they're gonna hold that off to the pay per view. But the pay per view is quite a ways away. We're still talking about early March, so they have to hold this match off for six more weeks. So they may do the first match in Chicago and then the second match.

If they're gonna do a second match quickly, could be at the pay per view, or maybe it'll be m JF and and wardload the pay per view. I'm not sure what they're going to do, so that'll be the one to watch. Their tickets remaining, and uh, February second is the date. You know, they got options and if to me, you can do two matches between see them punking MJF rather easily, and you can get good heat

in somebody's hometown. You could really move an angle forward, You could really shake something up, you know, between the two and keep people interested as Wardlow continues to play, you know, a factor in all of this and battling into them day up and whatever else punk has got going on as well too, So you can easily do two matches and get something done back in a moment

Observer Live. You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. Back of the show, Brian alvar is here or Wrestling Observer Alive. Okay, simpervv also a Wrestling Observer dot com. And uh, what is this? Here? Is this here? Somebody said? Somebody's texted me saying, judging by his latest tweet, Ali should just tweet out whatever Vince's plans were for him.

So I went to his uh, his Twitter, and Ali his h he has posted a shot of from the Dark Night when the Jokers standing there in front of the mountain of burning bills. So I was going to give him too much credit because I didn't see that movie or I don't know anything about that. So I was gonna say, I thought that was a pretty cool shot there with Ali. So it was a pretty cool shot. It was a pretty cool movie. I can't believe I've seen some cool movie you haven't seen. But anyway, your

opinions are relevant toil. You see Godfather, I've seen The Godfather. The right Thing, do the right thing. Now I haven't seen it. I just do the right thing all the time. Mhm man, I got it and I'm gone, And I was thinking about this, uh gun thirst Stark, Oh no,

why don't don't give that thought? What what? Well? And I've heard from a lot of people that you know, they're certainly not defending the name Gunther Stark so much, but like you know, they're they're asking a lot of questions, like, you know, are we sure that w w E knew what they were doing? Is it possible they didn't know? Is it possible that like Vaulter wanted the name and and you know, they didn't know. And listen, all of

that is possible. Okay, it's all possible, all right. But the fact of the matter is, after all these years, including on a show where Sarai is re debuting dressed as a Japanese school girl, and Ali had an idea from Vince McMahon that led him to want to quit and tweet out a photo of him in front of a you know when you watch the world burn. I mean, it's just very hard for me to give w w

E the benefit of the doubt in this situation. If that makes me an unfair man or a bad person, then I I am afraid that I have to accept that. But I just cannot give w w E the benefit of the doubt in this gun th Stark situation. That's just me. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong now, quite frankly, I've asked a lot of people and nobody is admitting to coming up with the idea. Nor have I, by the way, heard anybody in w w E give their own company the benefit of the doubt. So I could

be wrong and they could be wrong. I don't know, but man, oh man, it's very hard to give them the benefit of the doubt in this situation. You are not wrong. I am not wrong. No one who is not giving w w E the benefit of the doubt is wrong period. You know, the repute, their reputation speaks for itself. History is on our side. For those people who are looking at this with a real cynical eye and have a an issue with it, maybe some people have a real problem with it. I just take umbridge

with it. I have an issue with it. I think it's ridiculous on a lot of different levels, and I think it's uh, it's just it's just another shining example of just missing the boat, completely missing the U boat completely. You know, changing these names in the first place is ridiculous, not doing your due diligence and the way you needed to do. Having those that tweet and that stuff from Bartel where it looked like this was either if it's not being planned, I mean, what, what's w W gonna

say that? Well, they shouldn't have tweeted that out. We don't know what they were doing. They were acting on their own. Nobody's saying that, you know, all for all of the people that are saying, you know, Walter could have chosen this name, nobody's nobody's really saying anything about that. Nobody's really backing up that from inside the company that that is this was Walter's idea or anything like that.

Like Brian said, most of the people that I've talked to are looking at this and rolling their eyes and have the same thoughts that a lot of us do. It was just sloppy, It was ignorant, It was unneeded, and they have to pay whatever social price are gonna have to pay for that. Not gonna put them out of business, and they're not gonna care. They're gonna be in Saudi Arabia soon. People are gonna be upset and

outrage about that. They're gonna do plenty of other things on top of having a completely vanilla, painfully slow, painfully unfunny, painfully on entertaining television show and television product across all brands, period, no matter what it is. So you know, I just come on, you know, and I and I have feeling you'll be doing this again. Maybe in about an hour or so, you'll be You'll be talking about this issue and getting Lance's thoughts on it, and I'm very interested

to hear what he has to say about it. But I just nobody, Why are people still now trying to defend this or stand up for WDW or any of that stuff? You just again with history not being on their side. I mean, come on, really, please for Christ's sakes, be leaving w w E for years. According to a report, Fightful Select reports, w w E has refused to grant all these public requests to be released from his contract,

a contract that has years left on it. The report states at Ali and w w have been in context since he made his request on Sunday. The company has told Ali they will not to grant the release now and have no plans to in the future. I'd like to invite Ali onto this show, come on the show and tell us all about it, because he's not allowed to, so he should, and then maybe they'll fire him and we can get the full story. That would actually kill many birds with one stone if he just came on

this show to talk about it. He's been gone from television since November, and the Really Reports states that a heated argument with Vince McMahon over a pitch that McMahon made to Ali regarding his character was the catalyst for Ali not appearing on TV. So not only was Vince's idea an idea that made him want to quit, but it led to a heated argument with Ali and Vince McMahon. But we should give them the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe they just wanted him to uh. I don't know, maybe they wanted him to just cut his hair, you know, something simple. Hey, Brian, was this the company that uh that had Charlotte Fair uh and have her dead brother's name invoked in the storyline, and then that was trying to be positioned as Charlotte's idea And maybe it was Charlotte's idea, well it because it didn't sound that way and it. It actually sounded like later on, especially when Rick talked about it, that she wasn't okay with it.

You know, again, this is just a long line of insensitivity, a long line of of again just ignorance, just flat out ignorance, you know. And with Ali, it's amazing what they It's amazing. They're not gonna let him go, but you let all those other people go. You talk, you know, you you brought up on rampage that you know there was blood these women, Oh they massacred themselves. You know,

what about like something for real? Like what about you bringing over uh Alice in danger and you have her uproot her whole life and her whole family to bring her over to cut her and send her backpacking again? How many days after you you bring her? It's just just just sorry, just just slimy and sorry. And they're getting what they deserve any bad I mean, and again

they don't have to bad press. I'm not rooting for him to get bad pressed, but as far as people looking at them and just blowing them off in hand waving them and not taking him seriously on any of this stuff, and and you know, it's just they get what they deserve. Your root in it, that's what you get.

Moose will put his Impact World title on the line against W. Morrissey at next months No Surrender the Live Impact Plus Events that for Saturday February Ninete, along with Matt Cardona and two squared off in a three way for the title. It hard to kill it Moose one on the following Impact Morsey made it clearly one did Moose one on one for the gold, but the champion

had no interest. On Thursday's show, Morrisey won a handicap match against VSK and Zicky Dice went searching for Moose, but Scott de Morriseity wasn't there and then made the match for the special So Moose versus W. Morrissey, which is one of my favorite names and wrestling along with Harland, that would never get so old. M hmm. I'll hold out for this weekend and weight on Homicide and uh John Moxley that's more of my speed. Well, that sounds

like it'll probably be a pretty good match. I would think. This person here says I live in Nashville. I had no idea SmackDown was here. Therefore I am not going you know, it's ironic about that you know it's ironic. So and by the way for people to think I hate w w E. I was Wetion SmackDown on Friday and they had a commercial for w w E coming to whatever the new buildings called here in in early February. I thought, you know what, man, how old is Paisley now?

Almost six? I bet you'd have a lot of fun going to a w w E show. There's no you know, there's something scary. It's just like lights and music and people do influence. Man, I should take I may take her to this w w E show in in in February. And I rewounded. I watched the thing again and I got the date and I started looking at the calendar and I realized that they canceled that show. They postponed

it like two months ago. Remember this. They moved it to September months ago, and they're still airing a commercial for the show that's not taking place in early February. So I got the opposite problem. I didn't know they were coming, but they're not the same goes for any of you in Toronto and was in Montreal or Calgary, wherever it was to It was part of those shifts, right all those dates got moved around there. Oh, by the way, speaking of Canada for a second, to Sammy's aim.

One thing we didn't talk about and mentioned when he came to why you know Sammy's aim remaining in w W E you know is it makes a lot of sense and a lot of ways, and I have no problem with it whatsoever. The same way with Kevin Owens, I didn't have a problem with it whatsoever with him resigning. Is no matter what happens, no matter how they're portrayed or any of that sort of stuff, they are going

to be heroes in Quebec. And I know they got two point oh, I know Chris Jericho's obviously they're on the roster big star in Canada. But the one place that w W has still got a great advantage. They got it in a couple of different places, but they're really having Quebec in Mazane and no one's being there. They're gonna be stars forever. Backing them on with your calls Wrestling Observer Live. You're listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline

Broadcasting Network. Bagging the show. Brian Elva is here Wrestling Observer Alive, mixing for viv also of Wrestling Observer dot Com. On the Juice. Yeah, firstans, what's with woulna be wanting people to get their heads shaved in n x T. First the Scotty Too Haughty interview and now Javier Bernal being asked to cut his hair. Well, first off, they wanted people to cut their hair off forever for some reason.

And uh, if I recall the story on Javier, I believe that they were actually in the ring training when Johnny Ace came up and want him to cut his hair right there in the ring, like put him on the spot and did the old Well you don't have to, but we would strongly recommend it, And so went from the long haired guy to just a normal looking dude. It's ridiculous. Hey kid, here, these are Vince's scissors. I mean, you don't have to cut your hair, but you know,

m prophetic. Well it goes along with well, we want stars, but we're not gonna First we're gonna make you all look normal, and then you know, we we want young women, but you know we're gonna book them like idiots, and uh, you know, we want to create stars for the main suster. But well, look, even if we somehow actually make a mistake and make you a star, here's what's gonna happen. Okay,

you're gonna lose your money. Okay, you're gonna invest in strip mall that fails, You're going to have a relationship that ends terribly. Whatever it is, you're going to be begging back on your knees on either raw or SmackDown or maybe even now at NEXTD two point. Oh, you know, for some sort of of redemption to be bequeathed you by the McMahon family. I mean, that's usually what happens with stars. We've seen it with the biggest of stars, so be careful about that. You never know. First here

said he one. Hey, let's go to the phone. Let's try that. Let's see what this. I think this is Dagon right here, main man, Diagan, it's down the air, Digan. What's going on? Guys? A long time no talk? What's up to? Which? Holmies? Mike? I hope you have a great time at the Hammerstein this weekend. I would probably be there with you all if it wasn't worried a little bit about the up it in cases. But I will be watching on the Old Fight and it looks like a stat card man. I can't wait for that show.

Much like Devin Storm uh Tony Schivanni would always say about him and he'd russells Sabu on Nitro. He doesn't care about his body, Dagan. That's why I'm going to this. I'll do it for you, Okay, I'll put myself out there for you. I promise you. I'll have a good time at the g c W show at the Hammerstein Ballroom. It'll be better than having to talk about w W A. I appreciate it. It's much better than talking about n x T two point out. But hey, look, I did

have a question for you guys. Wanted to see your thoughts just on kind of the idea of maybe having the women be in the main event of one of these big four a W pay per views this year, either Revolution uh double or nothing all out full gear. I think Britt Baker and thunder Rosa's worthy of that main event slot at this point, possibly if you're gonna have her have that big title win. I wanted to get your thoughts on that because it's something a W hasn't on yet have the women as like the actual

main event. So I hope you guys have a good one. Bigan. I want to thank you very much for the call. I listen. Here's the thing with women and men and tag teams. Okay, if the match is the hottest match on the pay per view, it should be the main event. If not, it should not be the main event. That's it doesn't matter if it's women, men, tag teams. It does not matter. People, the hottest match on the show

is going to main event. Okay. If they don't have a women's match that is hotter than any other match on the show, it shouldn't main event. It should not main event just because they're women. If you want equality, then whether you're a man or woman or whatever, then you will main event. If you're the hottest match, regardless of who's involved in it, it's it. So I don't like the idea of well, we're gonna, you know, make sure that in March, women are gonna main event that

pay per view or whatever. No if if if you do the build to Britt Baker and thunder Rosa and these two are tearing it up, and the interviews are great, and people are clamoring to see this match, and it's hotter than a Hangman Page versus Adam Cole. Then fine, main event with that match. But you don't main event only because there are women. You don't mean event only because it's a tag team. You don't main event. You main event if it's the hottest championship match. That's my opinion.

That's a good opinion to have, and I agree with most of it, but I will also throw in the caveat that the tie goes to the runner, you know what I'm saying. And if it's not the world title, there are times where if all things are even, then the Roses star, Britt Baker's star just as big of a star as anybody else on that roster. Put them together. They can make magic just as well as anybody else on that roster. Oh why not give him that shot?

And I've always been partial to tag teams obviously, you know, Steamboat and Young Blood and Slaughter and Crudal on the Wall. Will always love tag teams. Product of the eighties had

great ones FTR and the Briscoes come to town. All things even, you don't have any w World title match, you don't have something so over the top, put it on there, because sometimes you have to do that so people know these are main eventors, These are stars, you know, These are people that are just on that same level with Adam Page and with John Moxley and Brian Danielson and see him Punk and Chris Jericho their biggest names. These teams, these women whoever, they're on the level as

well too. So if at all, if it does happen, I would absolutely do that for one of the big four pay per views. It doesn't necessarily mean that they you know they will or again, they only have four, it's not like they have twelve or whatever. So you know that rosa Britt Baker match. That can be a main event on Dynamite easy, you know what I mean? And so like where it was to me, and that's the thing is, and it's gonna be again. If it happens, that'd be on a pay per view. I think that

would be great. I really do think that would be great. So unless there's a title world title match, and the way, why not they deserve it, They actually deserve it. There's nothing you can say about those two right now that would fall under what you're saying Brian, like if you put Jade and Anna in the main event of a pay per view then, because then you'd be doing it

just to do it, you know. But with those with Rosa, I mean, Rose's legitimate star in Britt Baker again, other than the handful of people I named, she's just as big as a star as MGF or Jungle Boy or Darby Allen or you know, almost any of them right now, just as Mark, She's maybe is more popular than her husband. Alrighty, let's go to part's mouth. You're in the air. What's

going on? Hey, guys, what's going on? Brandon here? Um? So, I was asking about the with Adam Cole and Hangman, if indeed that's gonna be the the next challenger for Hangman, do you put the title on Cole or do you give Hangman even that bigger win? My thought would be that with Cole involved with the stuff with the Young Bucks, everybody Dragon, and possibly if Omega is back by then it seemed that there will be a lot going on with there that you probably don't really need the title for.

In that I absolutely would not put the title on Adam Cole, and I love Adam Cole, but Hangman. Hangman should be should be defending this title for a while and uh against top guys and beating top guys, and uh, as we've said a million times, when the time is right, Hangman is gonna do a job somebody and a thing about the MGFC and Punk match, and we we have

been talking about MGF for a while. And you know, should MGF be losing if he's if he's in line for the title, and the answers if he's in line for a title shot, No, he should not be losing, Okay, but I don't think he's in line for the title shot imminently. I think that we're probably going in March two, likely Adam Cole versus Hangman. And I don't know if MGF versus Hangman would even be at the end of May. I mean it could be. It could be all out

weekend for all I know. So it would not hurt MGF to do a job, to see him Punk here, to further the feud with Punk and to further the feud with Wardlow. And you know, you think about Hangman and you could ease. There's so many potential big time challengers for Hangman. Page whether it's your mocks Ley's or your Daniel Sins or the return of Omega or I mean you can rattle up people for like ten minutes about who could face Hangman, page that Hangman could beat

before finally losing that title. So no, I would not beat him now or any time in the near future. If one loss, you know, messes you that bad or messes up the situation or messes up a person, then you're doing it wrong or something's wrong. You know, he can absolutely lose now. I mean that's one of the reasons you have the ratings. To me, is you have that top five or top ten, whatever it is, and as long, yeah, m you have loses. But he beats the guy that's three, and he you know, gets himself

back into two position. And I mean there's so many ways you can play this where I mean, these are stars that are supposed to be kind of competing and fighting on the highest levels. So again it's how you lose in in time and place and circumstance. So absolutely he can lose the CM punk give me fine and be fine. Well, he can lose the wordlow and be fine. I wouldn't suggest it, but like you know, because of the trajectory that you'd want to see him punked or MGF to be on, and you want to be careful

with his losses. But my god, he can He can lose to Danielson, punk a couple of people in a row and still be fine, for Heaven's sakes, I mean, and again the personality that's losing too, you know. It's again it's how you respond to your losses and how you sell those back to the people again, you know, and tell them what they saw didn't really happen. And I think MGF could do a fine job in doing that.

You know. It's funny, is is, regardless of whatever criticisms why I might have for Dynamite this past Wednesday or or last week Wednesday, the fact of the matter is this is a fantastically well booked company. And the easiest way to see how well booked this company is is to make a quick comparison between the situation with Roman Reigns and the situation with Hangman Page. Roman Reigns was

supposed to be feuding with Drew McIntyre on SmackDown. Drew McIntyre went down with a nick injury, and they literally had nobody nobody on the SmackDown brand that could step in for Drew McIntyre. They had to take seth rawlins off of Raw to replace one guy who went down on SmackDown. Let's think about Hangman Page. I think I don't know this, but I think it's Hangman Page versus Adam Cole at the March pay per view, they certainly

were teasing that a couple of weeks ago. Let's say that Adam Cole got injured in that match with Britt Baker on Wednesday. Is anybody listening to this right now concerned about who could possibly face Hangman Page if Adam Cole is injured? Is there anybody who couldn't rattle off a dozen viable contenders for Hangman Page. So that is

the sign of a well booked company. You have multiple main inventors that, with a couple of weeks of of booking or even less, could easily step into that number one contender spot w W E. Who did they have on SmackDown that could step into face Roman Reigns after Drew Man. Nobody they had nobody to step in there that anybody would have taken seriously in that role, which, by the way, you know, I was talking about Hangman

and I'm still having to hear about it. Oh, Brian, I can't believe you thought that Hangman should be laid out by Archer two weeks in a row. They're trying to make Hangman strong. The irony of all of this is people are mad at me, but apparently I'm the only one that has any faith in a Hangman is champion. If you're a champion. If Hangman Page can't be laid out by Archer two weeks in a row, then he ain't much of a champion. I actually think that a Hangman could easily be laid out two weeks in a

row by Lance Archer. Go and beat Lance Archer decisively on TV, and it ain't hurting Hangman Page at all. If you don't think that that guy can get laid out by Lance Archer two weeks in a row, than either A you got the wrong champion or b you got the wrong challenger, which I think, by the way, neither of those situations. But I'm the bad guy a lot less harmful than walking around drownk for a year. I can tell you that I in a moment Observer Live.

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It was great. Did I ever tell you about the time they did Harlem growth criers actually got Avery on the court and they didn't put them in part of their bit. It's pretty awesome to see the ball. He was not the ball, but he uh he was used as a distraction and uh I think they did threaten to dunk him at one point. But I've never been to the Harlem Globe trials. Is it like the cartoon when I was a kid where they're like on forklifts, Well, they would come out like Scooby Doo or whatever. That's

all I remember. Well, they do a lot of you would like it. They do a lot of tricks and such so well, I certainly like tricks. Yes, sometimes they do things off of trampolines. Take you back to your gymnastics days, to a you know, four or fifty with the ball duncan and whatnot. Get you out there, put your little finger up, spend the ball on it. Look at Brian girls. A pop for you. You'll be a hero.

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