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Wrestle top is the spot for breaking news for addictions and reviews from British Hello and welcome to the WrestleTalk podcast here every Tuesday and Friday. I'm Ollie Davis. I'm joined by Luco in DAD. And if you haven't already, please subscribe to us. Wherever you get your podcasts from, that could be on YouTube, that could be on Apple Podcasts, that could be on Spotify. So on today's show
There was a comment that was left on Tuesday's episode. Uh I mean there's two things to keep cropping up. Tuesday being one of them is people saying that we say it C H E W S. Day. Oh like to chew some food. Choose some food. I think it's like our British accents make it sound like we're saying choosday. Cho Tuesday. Tuesday. Tuesday. Tuesday. Tuesday and Friday. And there was another one that was like lol at
a lot of viewers skip this section, which was which is what sometimes YouTube comes up with whenever there's a bit that like people have skipped over a lot and it was during the QR code. I'm told they have that on porn videos. You know, the I'm told. Your sources tell you do they date Meltzer? Well, you know, the w we're in the new media space. You've got to be up to date with all the tech.
And as far as I'm aware, the the visualization of spikes of viewership you know when you just hover over the timeline on a video? That was on porn before it made its way to YouTube. Porn is usually ahead of everyone else with technology. Setting trends. VR headsets. We're not really using those day to day. No. But there are a couple of really horny blokes. Locked in. Try skipping this part of the video because if you get one of those VR headsets, you know what's in it. A QR pod a QR link.
To this podcast. Go away heat. Is that what that has that segment? That one comment. Oh that that one did get to me a little bit. Okay, so on today's show. We are of course reviewing just How does it keep getting better, AEW Dynamite? A banging episode of AEW Dynamite. Uh but we're gonna be kicking things up. But more teases. We have because one thing is over.
on this show. The ass index returns. The ass index of course. Is are wrestlers better or worse than Billy Gunn? There was someone who said that my thoughts that Billy Gunn is better than the Miz were Insane to think. That's what this is all about. It's about a really honest, productive debate. Yeah. And also, I went down to CX yesterday to sell a show.
Ton of wrestling DVDs. And we all took bets on how much we would get for it. Was it just the wrestling DVDs or was it the other box of DVDs as well? It was all the DVDs, so yes.
¶ Why are WWE panicking about Mania?
There were a bunch of normal movies in there like Noah. So because I think some of the bets that came in from the office. were quite low. And then I'm on the train thinking, I was like, there are wrestling D V Ds in there. They might actually pick up a little bit more than what you think. So that is a big tease. We'll go through everyone's predictions. We'll try and give an inventory of everything I managed to sell.
And uh just my awful time doing it. Ruin the evening. Ruin the evening. Ruin my partner's evening. Not a fifteen minute job. No, that was like following a beat'cause it was about a hundred DVDs they had to go through. Speaking of ruining evenings. Is that and and the other thing we're gonna talk about is have uh TKO sort of fallen out of favor with Triple H? Is there this internal criticism of Triple H And why are WWE panicking about the WrestleMania advances on
Yeah, so this is all tied in to one bigger story. So there's a few stories that have come out this week that you can link back to the main driver of it, really, which is WrestleMania ticket sales this year. At eighteen percent behind where they were at the same point last. Still sold thirty six thousand tickets. Really impressive. Really impressive. And I think so by this point last year, for WrestleMania forty one, WWE had sold in the region of forty two thousand tickets.
And this year they have sold thirty six thousand thousand tickets. So yeah, eighteen percent down. Yeah, which you know, it's still a a really good number. It's it's a strong start. But I guess the WWE worry, the TKO worry is Well that's a downward trend. That's something that we should be panicking about. We need to do something to freshen this up. Yeah, this is um this is just sort of a let me go on my soapbox for a minute. This is a larger problem with publicly traded companies.
Where it's not about the quality of the business or the value they provide the world. It's about the story you sell to everyone that there is growth on the horizon. Yeah. Which is why companies like Amazon Netflix or Uber can go through decades of losing money, but their value goes up and up and up. You know, you know, to me as a as a logical person, I think that makes no sense.
But to everyone else, they're like, Yeah, but we should get in now because wow, the story of growth is compelling. And what WWE has become, of course it's always been a it's been a public company since 2000, but really It was Vince McMahon's company. Yeah. Since TKO bought it, it is now a publicly traded organization out of the death grip of one insane man. And now it is more about Growth. Growth, growth, growth. And that's through cutting our truth. That's through charging higher ticket prices.
The problem is that you're never gonna always grow. Yeah, exponential growth is this is this capitalist idea that you will like every year you will always make more money than you did the previous year. Yeah. Which is i an insane prospect to think. And I d I I don't think there's Any historical evidence for that being born out. So and and you know, they're they're not idiots. They know that
So it's more about a cash grab. It's like, how can we get as much money right now where the going's good rather than Building something more long term and sustainable. So we said about with Mark Shapiro, that lad who was like Vince McMahon's biggest problem was that he tried to sell tickets for families. He tried to make WWE affordable for families. The big idiot. Whereas what we are looking to do is sell ticket prices that are really expensive. I'm now paraphrasing what
We're looking to sell ticket prices that are really expensive because that way we're going to make more money. And you and I said on this podcast, that's an asinine viewpoint because the really strong thing about sending uh uh selling tickets to families Is that includes children. Yeah. And children then grow up as wrestling fans and become adults.
and they continue to be wrestling fans. They then have children who are wrestling fans and they grow up to become adults and you're constantly churning over. That's why people say one of the strongest industries to get into is being a driving instructor.
There will always be seventeen year olds looking to drive. There'll always be bad seventeen year olds who will fail their test over and over again. Exactly. You will get a thirty six year old, you'll get a four year old, you get a twenty five year old. There will always be A seventeen year old and a load of seventeen year olds at the same time. Every year we'll have a new s a new group of seventeen year olds. I it is kind of sort of a a dumb business practice to have.
But that's why we are looking at ticket prices for this year's WrestleMania being I think you looked into this one of them like for a same seat this year is something like fifty seven percent more expensive than it was last year. Yes, well the um So what I did is when tickets went on sale in September and that there's a sort of range of options. You've got the two day of the the single days. The the interesting thing about WrestleMania 41 to WrestleMania 42 is
And this has only happened once in Mania history. In back-to-back years, it's in the exact same venue. Yeah. Which wasn't the original plan. It was supposed to be in New Orleans, is what The Rock announced. But again, WWE, they were paid six million dollars reportedly. By Las Vegas, the city of Las Vegas. So again it's Which is more money than what New Orleans were paying. Yes, yeah. Because there's an argument, new territory
They haven't had a WrestleMania for a while. You know, some of the best ones in history. Um So would more people go to it just from the local area, right? But because traveling all the way to Las Vegas where you just ran This is you know, this is Wrestling 101. There's a there's a term for it, killing the territory. Yeah. When you overrun big shows in a certain area, you'll burn out that audience. Look at Florida with all the NXT shows they do.
Yeah. Um but yeah, so the last September the increase so in twenty twenty Four, when tickets went on sale for twenty twenty five's WrestleMania forty one, the cheapest Two-day ticket you could get was five hundred and forty five dollars.
It's still quite pricey, but you know, five hundred and fifty bucks for two days worth of rest. And it's you know, long shows, eight hours worth of shows. It's mania. Yeah. You know, still st that is right at the back of the stadium. I looked at the seat view and I couldn't find a further back. That's where I think of mine like man, that's for like
back row seats where you are not really going to see a lot of the wrestling actually happen. Well you can watch that screen. Hopefully they have a massive screen. Well unless you go to an AEW show. Don't put them on. They don't have a screen on your side of the uh the stadium. Um And of course, there are far more expensive tickets the closer you get to The eight thousand dollars.
The sort of prices where Randy Ornham feels ashamed to work for the company. And we'll make fun of you for buying those tickets. To your face. Yeah. I'm so sorry. are aware this is, you know, quite ex You say exploitative. It's it's people's own decision what they spend their money on. Of course. But like, you know, they also know the worth of their products. And that's obviously Um so this year.
When they went on sale in September for WrestleMania 42, the lowest, the cheapest two-day tickets are$854. Quick maths, that's a increase of$309, which is 57% price. increase year on year. But what's so interesting for me is just a sort of you you try and eliminate variables in in sort Uh Yeah. So you can't say, Oh, but it's in UK and we had to travel everything over or it's in the
Crypto dot com arena. They've got various different things we need to do. Yeah, so of course the price would go. This is an this is a a like for like comparison with a year on year of I don't think inflation has Uh yeah, I mean I I don't know what it's like over in the States. I don't think it's great. But I don't but it's certainly not fifty seven percent worth of inflation. No that's that's
That's communism Vietnam in the eighties. Yeah. It's like a lot of um. Have you been there recently? Oh, did did I not mention it? That's honestly that's why everything is a million doll. You're automatically a millionaire with a tenor. Ha ha ha. The uh it's it's but it's not just WWE, this is all like across the board. There are r uh reports on some writing up about the fact that people now don't see McDonald's as
cat like that now is an expensive meal. That is now it is not just something you have as fast food. It is now almost a treat to get McDonald's because their prices have grown exponentially over the years and have grown outside of what inflation So if inflation is here, their ticket prices. Their burger prices are up this way. Yeah.
And that's why now it's it people are being priced out of getting McDonald's. There are wrestling fans who are being priced out of going to the McDonald's of wrestling WWE. It's uh it is a trend across all live events. You know, if anyone's been to any music event in the last three years. You will know that. I told you I could get a radio head because I couldn't afford it. And you can't blame you know, the popular thing to do is to go, oh ticket master are bad.
It's it is the acts. They are setting these prices. They know what they're doing. And they're very smart by saying, Oh, it's talent relations. They also sign up for dynamic pricing. Yes. Yeah, which is what drives a lot of these things. Um So yeah, sorry, that's that's the larger landscape. Super Bowl tickets are more expensive. F one t by by rates of increase? WWE is in line with these things. But you know. Is a business model is successful until it isn't.
And yeah, when the going's good, charge a fortune for the ticket. There's a there's a capitalist argument for supply and demand there. I personally would always keep a section of tickets affordable for the people who will be with you long term and maybe kids and families, that long term booking. Um but yeah. I I get the argument and sometimes you're an idiot not to embrace it.
But here th I I would I would read ticket sales are down eighteen percent year on year with no with one match announced. Yeah. Right? So we've got Roman and Punk, and that's a very big match. Because there's no other matches announced and WrestleMania is usually sold on the idea of WrestleMania, I would say this isn't a creative issue with Triple H, although he does have his problems.
It's a priciness sheet. I that's what I think as well. Like it is you you made the point there. WrestleMania tickets are sold on it being WrestleMania. There are ticket sales will happen once matches get announced. But they've announced like, you know, the the Roman Punk match, and that has seen a small increase in ticket sales. But the majority of people are gonna go to WrestleMania's because well it's WrestleMania. Gotta go to WrestleMania then. So it doesn't matter what matches you.
I said this in yesterday's news. You could book Stone Cold versus The Rock. You can't help the fact it's expensive to go to Las Vegas and eat and stay in Las Vegas. It's expensive to go there. You could book whatever match you want. It's still gonna you still can't h fight the fact fact it's expensive to go there. Yeah, it's not just the tickets because Las Vegas is a tourism destination. Most of the you know, what was it last year? Hundred and thirty thousand Yeah yeah.
people or maybe it was well it was hundred and thirty thousand over two knights, so some of those are the same people. But those aren't all from Las Vegas. The majority are flying in. So that means hotels, that means food that you've got to buy out and not cook at home. That means drinks you're gonna have. Which is why. the tourism board pay WWE all of this money because they're bringing in
a hundred thousand people into the city to spend money on hotels, to spend money on food. This is why we're not getting WWE WrestleMania in London, because London won't pay for them to come across. London does not need WWE to help with its tourism.
W do I London tourism is always really strong without to I mean obviously the superb owl comes in, like maybe that'll do some Taylor Swift comes in that sees an increase. But they don't need like it's it does fine without it. But that's why W like pays a load of money and London like No. Manch Manchester would, but they don't want to do Manchester. They want to do Wembley so they can break the all in rate.
I would prefer not as many tourists in London. You know, if anything I would start putting on events that drive people away. Yeah. Uh yeah. Um Leicester Square's horrible. It's full of Italian fifteen year olds. On always on some kind of trip. Yeah, well I've come to London. They're on a school trip. They've come to London to take in the culture of of this fine city. The M M M the MM store. The MM store. The Lego store. The Angus store.
Steakhouse pure Britom. From like um Chinatown, yeah. Trapauka Square, I'm gonna say. But also, you know, maybe they're going to the Prince Charles Cinema. I don't think they are. No. Oh that's why that's the remote. It's halfway, yeah, it's the best place. Um so what was the point there? Yeah. Las Vegas would have made a a a calculation where we will pay WWE six million dollars to put on WrestleMania here because we believe
We the the city of Las Vegas and the businesses we want the support will make more than six million. Yeah. We'll we're spending to get more back. Um but then WWE because they've got the sort of private equity, everything needs to grow. It's actually sorry, it's not actually potentially. But that sort of everything has to grow in the stock market valuation mindset. They're not going, Oh, we've been paid this, so we should make tickets more affordable because
then people will spend money in the local business. We've already got six million for this. Yeah, you could reduce everything by six million in theory. But that's obviously not But that they've gone one step further than that because another report came out from Fightful that they're now actively blacking out. Bars and other venues that aren't the Allegiant Stadium where WrestleMania is being held.
They're blacking them out from showing WrestleMania. Yeah. So the idea being if you can you might travel to Las Vegas even though you can't go to WrestleMania. Just so you can be in the town to soak in the WrestleMania atmosphere. Maybe you'll go to one of the local events that are around there. There doesn't seem to be that sort of WrestleMania weekend vibe anymore. You know, Ring of Honor is not running a show there. It used to be like there were thirty shows around WrestleMania weekend.
But WWE over the years have really killed that idea off by blocking companies from doing them unless you're friends with WE. So GCW will be able to run shows there. And they're running a show again this year with the Sandman's retirement match. Against the invisible man. What I would have done for for Sam Man's uh Well, you know what? I'll I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, Joe Schneller. I hope it is. Luke was fuming. Fuming. And I wasn't the only one.
Anyway, um what was the point I was saying? So yeah smart guy, sound man, really high IQ. Yeah, massive lot of money in real estate. That's because they got out of the wrestling game and just became a realtor. Imagine like buying a house and the sound man shows up. Terrifying. Is it music? Cracking a bit, smoking a ciggy as he comes in. Yes, I will take the house. Please get away from me, you smell weird.
Um but anyway, so the idea being I can't go to WrestleMania, but I'm gonna go to Vegas so I can go to all the surrounding shows, then I'll go to a bar and I'll watch WrestleMania. Or you might go for one night. and watch the other night in a bar. Look we We've actually had more fun watching WWE shows. in bars with, you know, WrestleTalk fans and and friends
rather than actually being at the event. And we have not just that a precedent for it. We did a show, uh a watching on party, when WWE were running a show in London. When they were running the O two. People who could not go to the O two and could not afford the ticket couldn't get it. it's sold out, came to our show instead. Should have charged more insight, shouldn't we?
Exponential grunts. And it was so much fun. Like we had an absolute blast there. That Money in the Bank one in particular was so great. That rumble uh show we did was with friends. And and there was like, yeah, all the bloodline saga and the Jimmy J turn. Yeah it was yeah. It was great. And the and the uh yeah Clash at the Castle, the first one, the Dom Heel turn. The Dom Heel turn. So much so awesome. And we were then prepped to do Elimination Chamber the month after.
And then well WWE saw that we were having fun and they they shut that fun down. Yeah. Yeah. In a really in a really back uh a back alley way. Let's call it an indirect way. We didn't get an email. We were just No, no, we ha we had to find out almost third hand that that's why we're not allowed to do these shows anymore. Uh but the The one of the points that makes that interesting is last year that wasn't the case.
I don't think Wale Mania's a thing anymore, but you know, you would have those parties where you'd watch WrestleMania. So and it's come at the same time where this Oh, the Royal Rumble's now passed. We're on the road to WrestleMania. Let's check where the ticket sales are. They're eighteen percent down. Well it's probably because probably because everyone's gonna watch them in the bars?
Let's tell all the bars they can't do that. Yeah, within a fifty mile radius of the stadium where they're doing WrestleMania, even if you have a license to be able to show WrestleMania, you are not allowed to show WrestleMania. If you've paid for It's not a good thing. That's what I was saying. That's what I said. If you have to do it, you've got to have it. You know, like y I I don't know, probably a Joey Janella or a Sandman. Yeah, Sam Man. The idea is
To drum up tourism for Las Vegas. Do you know where tourists go? Bars. Yeah. Restaurant. And now all of a sudden W have now made a decision to stop but to stop people go actively going to the bar. But they re they really do. They screw over everyone. I I'm you know it's a really cynical business model and it is like the inshidification one oh one. You always think oh it's That these evil companies are screwing over us, the fans, which they are with the pricing and the bad product and whatnot.
But they're also screwing over their own business partners. Yeah. Like brands and and the city of Las Vegas and the bars around them. It's uh Yeah, it is it is really, really sort of negative. It's always easier to ask for forgiveness than it is permission, I guess. So maybe they can just sort of like sweet talk it, get Nick Khan in there and sweet talk the tourism board being like, Well we're doing it for this reason. It's actually this benefits you in a way.
But yeah, the idea being the and sort of the reported reason why they've done this, is to drum up ticket sales for WrestleMania. If you if I can't go to a bar to watch it, I guess I'll have to buy a ticket to go to WrestleMania. That's the por the reported reason why they have done this blackout. There's a bit of a a sort of sinister monopolistic consequence to this as well, because, you know, WrestleMania comes How often are they?
It's in Saudi next year. Probably not for a well at least at least two years. Well it wasn't in Las Vegas too. Yeah, but Tony Kahn Nick Khan loves it there, not Tony Khan. So maybe they're just they want to always have mania in Vegas. But uh, you know, I'm a small venue. I'll just chance it. But because WWE is TKO, which is also UFC, TKO can go, yeah, but you you showed WrestleMania, so as punishment, you can never show a UFC event. Yeah. And that is that is cataclysmic.
To a Las Vegas bar. Yeah. I mean we'd uh again we're in a bit of a two thousand one bubble because of the series that we're doing at the moment. We talked about WWF New York, which is their Times Square location they had in two thousand, thousand one, two thousand I think they had closed about two thousand two, two thousand three. The thing with the WWF New York was they wouldn't show any other sport.
They would only show WWF. They would show raw SmackDown Heat and the the pay-per-views. It would never show any other sport. So if it wasn't a Monday or a Thursday or a it was dead'cause people are going to them to watch other sports. If you can't show sport in your sports bar, particularly if it's a really big sport like a UFC.
That's gonna massively impact your business. And because TKO are are establishing a monopoly of combat sports, which they absolutely have, you know, maybe you can argue wrestling isn't because of AEW, but now wrestling plus UFC, to me that's that passes the threshold of monopoly. Yeah. But which means they can say, Well, you've got to play by our rules because we'll punish you over here.
So this so this comes back to this idea that there is this internal criticism of Triple H. Plans are up in the air for WrestleMania because they are trying to figure out what to do for WrestleMania. Yeah, because all of the reports, the Wrestling Observer report and stuff, it's like The executives are blaming the creatives rather than the financial reality. Which I think that's where it lies. I I think you and I both agree on this. The it's not creative. It is it's too expensive to go
And you can burn out an audience by charging them lots of money. I go I've said on the show, people will pay the prices until they don't. People paid a lot of money to go to that John Cena final show. A lot of people left that show very unhappy because of the amount of money they spent and the experience that they got at the end. And what about WrestleMania last year in Las Vegas?
You've got this idea of like you can burn your audience out. And I think that the the creative and the business had a really lucky run a couple of years. Cause you had the bloodline saga that kind of carried you through 2024, then you had in sorry, in 2023, then you had finished the story leading you across 2024, and last year was Cena's retirement year. That pretty much carried the business. Because people were going to shows to see John Cena's last date.
Yeah,'cause what else really caught fire? I think we'll we'll talk about it when we get to AEW later, but when things are going well Things magically just start to go well everywhere for you. When things are going bad. Things unfortunately weirdly start to go bad everywhere for you. It's this momentum thing. And WWE, everything has been going great. I would say right now with AEW, everything is just going great, even stuff
Like the F ice chant last that's not in their control, they didn't plan for that. No. Boom. But it's w it's gone in their favour. Massively so. With WWE now, af like it feels like since last the main event of last year's mania. nothing is not nothing is clicking, but it is. It it feels like it the momentum is going down. Mm-hmm. And WWE just isn't as hot as it once was.
So yeah, that is partially that is because of creative. Like the Yeah, it is. That that does fall into creative. So so you could go this eighteen percent drop, let's attribute Las Vegas tourism in general was down eight percent. Let's just say that's with just people aren't flying into the US right now because of all number of controversies with that kind of
So it's ten percent drop. Okay, you could probably say the the fifty seven percent price increase. Yeah. So we're I I think we can conservatively go four percent is because WWE is just not as hot right now. Yeah. That's creative's fault.
'Cause you still have stars. You'll have Roman Reigns on the show, you'll have Punk on the show. Reportedly Rollins is going to be back ready for that show. Rhea Ripley will be on the show. Logan Paul will be on the show. And this guy's into a some speculative uh reporting. It's not an official report, it's very much speculative at this point, speculation at this point.
That WWE will book Bad Bunny to be at WrestleMania for a match with Logan Paul. It's the wrong match. I want to see Bad Bunny kick the crap out of Jake Paul. And I want it to be a shoot. But that is that's WrestleMania. That is a WrestleMania match because that is not for wrestling fans. That is for casual fans who are like, wow, I love Bad Bunny or I love Logan Paul because he does a YouTube, I think. So I wanna go and see him I wanna go see them have a fight.
That is like it's two celebrities having a wrestling match. It's nothing more WrestleMania than that really in a way. That I can see them going for because and I was gonna tie this into a point we made earlier, but I think it's something we should address. What happened last year when Elimination Chamber ticket sales were low? They turned Cena Heel. They called in the rock. Because Top Brass panicked. Ticket sales are down for this event. Canadian economy's bad.
You need to do something drastic. You need to do a really big shocking out. Pick up the phone to the rock. What can you do for us, Dwayne? And that's when you there is every chance we might be looking down the barrel of another phone call to the rock. Not got any Oscar nominations this year. Can you come back? We need to boost WrestleMania ticket sales. Can you come back as Mark Kerr?
As your character from the smashing machine with prosthetics and and have a match with Timothy Chameley as Mardi Supreme. That's WrestleMania. That's WrestleMania right. No, I think you're right. I think uh you know, my my prediction for the next couple of weeks is something crazy's gonna happen. There is gonna be a really big angle of some sort that we could because Triple Eight
He likes comfort. He he he's managed to mold everything back into where he wanted them to be in October. Punk's gonna face Ray. And we'll have Cody Drew Fattoo and you know, it's it's Glaze Shield, Breaker Seth. It's like m y it's not exciting, but it makes sense. And that's why it will always be better than Vince. But he's now gonna get pressure from the people above him. Arguably for the wrong reasons. I think it's for the wrong reasons.
But it will force Triple H to do something drastic, like the Cena Heel turn last year. I d uh I I think there's a really smart shout, the Bad Bunny match. I think they'll get some big celebrity angle in.
Have you got any idea what what a what is on the level of a John Cena heel term? I mean Chris Jericho's return? I think there needs to be bigger than that.'Cause I don't think it's pressure on triple I mean, maybe there there is gonna be pressure on Triple A. I think if anything crazy does happen, it's gonna be the rock. It is gonna be a call to the rock. What can you do?
'Cause last year you did the biggest angle of twenty twenty five, the thing that got us probably the most media attention of of that year. Yeah. What can you do again? That was not a triple H decision. It wasn't a Cody Rose decision or like a road dog decision. That was a rock decision. And then the creative worked around what the rock pitched. What if Ari Emanuel or Nick Khan, whoever it is, calls up the rock and be like, What can you do this year? And he says, It's me versus coach.
Put the belt onto Cody and it's me versus Cody for the title. Yeah. That's not a trip that would be it's not a triple H call. That is a rock call. That's the WrestleMania night two main event. Roman vs. Punk gets relegated to night one. That'd be so funny. And Mania Knight 2 eh is Rock versus Cody. I th it's the biggest thing they could do. You know, like we've all been saying the biggest match they can do is is Roman versus Punk.
It's actually not because the it is the Rock versus Cody. It's the match they've been building for three years. Actually what if it's Rock Marines? and actually switch it up and Reigns somehow gets pushed over into this direction. He faces he beats Cody or beats Drew for the title. And you go punk Cody. You do punk Cody.
And you do rock versus Roman in night two WrestleMania. Well, whatever it is, I think it will be inserts himself into the match anyway, it is a triple threat. Or you know, I think it will be huge. And I'm probably I'm probably coming in with more believable conservative options. Rock sides with a Drew because they they got a real life friend. Or a Jacob Fatu within the family to go against Cody. And actually the story of Mania Weekend is Fatu and Rot Trying to win the belt from code.
And Rain's trying to win the belt from Punk. It's bloodline. Bring it back, baby. Iron Man's uh Doctor Doom now. Ha ha ha ha. I mean, yeah, maybe if if something's going wrong or something's not quite clicking, just go back to something that worked previously. Uh Robert Downey Jr. Sa Saudi Arabia is next year for Mania. I always thought the Rocks match w would be saved for that. Me too.
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¶ AEW Dynamite Review
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I can't remember the last time AEW's been this great. So we there's an episode of Raw. Ca not too dissimilar to this a little while back. Remember feels like Raw's back? And I was like, Yeah, it's a bit of a cheat code episode because it's got two returns on it or I I think I had three returns on it, a title change, uh you know, and all this sort of thing. It was the Cena IC win and we had Roman and Brock come back at the end. Exactly.
There is an argument to be made, bit of a cheat code episode in this,'cause you had a return, two title changes, uh big match announced for next week. But actually like the wrestling was also just so great on this show. It just felt like an awesome episode of Dynamite.
Episode of Raw. Was it the Madison Square Garden Raw? I think so. Uh like maybe one or two weeks out from the uh what what was it Survivor series? I think it was Survivor Series. It would have been Casina I've Cena won the IC title in that show, then yeah.
Before then it was like three, four months of nothing. And then it was like, oh wow, that right, okay, big episode. We're back. Turns out we were. We were maybe back for three weeks. This is the Accumulation of a great C2, It's Always Loads of Fun, the Moxley storyline.
MJF winning the title, I know some people didn't like that, but we were big fans because he makes everything more interesting. And then from the start of this year, just everything incrementally getting better. I wanted to call this episode
AW is the best promotion. Probably glad we didn't because that will stoke the tribalism. You're looking at ninety four percent thumbs up, thumbs down ratio there. No, I don't think it's look objectively, Triple H I don't think it's even close because it's not just the AEW six.
You know, it's not just this like what a fun main event scene we have with MJF and you've got Andrade, Kenny Omega, Hangman, Brody King, Swerve Strickland, they're all chasing him, and it feels like everyone's feuding with each other. Every single bit of the card is on fire. Yeah, to that point, they went on this show. This show didn't have MGF, didn't have Brody King, didn't have Andrade, didn't have Hangman Adam Payne. It had Kenny and Swerve in the opening segment.
But actually what it showed is that it's not just the main event is that are doing really well, the rest of the cards. Seems like it's really everything's just on fire. I will say, like, not everything worked for me. I'm not like overly stoked about the Bucks versus FTR again. I I feel like we have mined that well. It's a one-off for me. It's just a one-off to make a big
I yeah, I guess. It's just like when they went I was like that was like the I'm glad the Bucks won, but also it's the least interesting option to be the the tag champions. And I've got some issues with the main event as well, but like an overall like vibe and feeling. And the other thing about this is this crowd in California were
So hot for everyone on this show. There was no point when like, you know, and I hate to get sort of do some comparisons here. When Natty took on Maxine and the crowd were like, all right, when's Rhea Ripley gonna get here? When's when's a star gonna arrive? Everyone that was on this show felt like this audience treated them like everyone was a star. Because I think the booking is a really good example of why you share the spotlight.
You know like that I keep coming back to this what Roman said. I gave the spotlight to other people. Yeah, but you you're not there to elevate them. This had you've got Swerve and Omega, they're both stars in the opening segment. Then we had the Death Riders versus the Callus Fell. Takeshta, Moxley, absolute star.
in what is a mid card feud right now over a mid card belt, but it elevates the Claudio and Pac and Alexander and and Mark Davis is being a standout. Like this is helping him grow because he's not just going in there having a match with I don't know, the Miz. He's going in there ha and that that's not like because the Miz is a bad worker, it's because he's at a he's slotted at a lower mid card level.
Mark Davis is going in there. Last week, wrestling hangman. Here being in the ring with Moxley. Then what do we get? Carl Fletcher versus Tomasso Ciampa. Yeah. Yeah, that that's definitively a mid-card section, but what an exciting mid-card section. Tommaso Ciampa is fresh. Fletcher's going into his home country of Australia soon. Um Orange Cassidy is over. When and you got the Clark Connors is new.
The Young Bucks, yeah, they're sort of the veteran I don't want to say stale, but they're they're always there, Act. But you've you're refreshing that. Private party make their return. The rascals are excellent. Chris Statlin Lander versus Tecla. Like that You know, we'll talk about it. I think it's a really good move. The execution at the end wasn't exactly what I wanted to do. It was the right result. But that was really fun and it felt super hot.
And and this is without Will Ospreay. Yeah. Hangman wasn't on this show. MJF was just in a little promo segment. AJ Styles hasn't got here yet. This This is a great roster. Yeah.
¶ Kenny Omega & Swerve Strickland
And I I I cannot say enough good things about it. I'm so impressed. And uh it's a credit to Tony Khan's consistent booking. And like the matches for next, we've got Grand Slam on side. I'm gonna watch Collision.
We're gonna watch collision on Sunday morning. Oh yeah, it's on Sunday, isn't it? Oh is it on Sunday? Oh it's Australia, so Well I think it's just Grand Slam this weekend in place of collision. Yeah, sorry, that's what I meant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I will watch that. I cannot they announce Swerve versus Kenny Omega for next week's dynamite. I thought for sure that was gonna be on Grand Slam. Yeah. Or like delay it to Revolution, which is mid March. Yeah. This feels like
Every week of T V has a legit main event. Like at Star Power and Story. There was a period with Triple H's Raw when he first took over where that was similar. Yeah. And it was like every week. things like Braun Strowman versus Bronson Reed, like that would be the main event and it would be a culmination of a three week build. Like this is great. What what a great pace. So yeah, sorry. Spoke for spoke for a while there, but I I I love AEW right.
Triple H was allowed to do that because ticket sales were going really well. So when and when ticket sales are doing fine, TKL could just take a step back and be like, Well we trust you on the on your process here. But what what is one of the stories in Resin at the moment? AW ratings Yeah, and the ticket sales are up. And some of that might just be the way Nielsen have tweaked their new rating system. But like I said earlier, when you're having success.
Things start to just go well for you. That is outside of their control. I do think their ratings are probably increasing, but whatever change Nielsen have made makes it seem like it's a huge increase.
which is gonna feed back into morale and give the boys confidence and give Tony like a sense of validation of where his booking's going. There's a old phrase in wrestling and you and I have said it on this show many, many times before. When you are hot you can do nothing wrong. When you're cold you can do nothing right.
And if WWE at the moment feels like it's a cold product, that's when you feels like you can do nothing right. When you are a hot product, you can do nothing wrong, and everything just fires on all cylinders. The show did open with Kenny and Swerve having a face to face. I thought this was an awesome opening segment. Great promos from both of them, really establishing why they have this sort of hatred for each other.
Swerves is about people keep saying telling me you're the god of pro wrestling. That was five years ago. And now I've been on the top dog, where have you been? You've either been injured or suspended. All you are now is just yet another EVP that is using their power to get into the top position where you don't deserve to be. And I spent it last year getting rid of two EVPs who thought they could do the same thing. And Kenny's response was it's not about being an EVP. This is about the fans
Seeing me as the best bout machine and me wanting to prove to them I can still be that best bout machine. And I could have proven that to them in Australia. But I can't now because of you. I would have beat Andrade last week, but you had to get involved and I did not win. So now I want to fight with you.
And Swerve's like, Right, great, and they have this brawl, they brawl up onto the stage. Looks like Kenny's gonna give him the one winged angel off the stage, but Swer Swerve gets out of that, they go off and crash through a table, and then yeah, during the next match they announce. Next week on Dynamite, it's Kenny vs. Swerve. So just one bit of feedback. What's the story here?
Heatless bangers. There's something you said. We were joking about WrestleMania X seven and Deborah's inclusion into the Rock and Austin. A feud that should just be based around Rock hating Austin, a professional rivalry. And you describe or you you tell it. So I I said Vince McMahon's problem as a promoter was if you had a story that was two wrestlers hate each other, his responsibility is like, Yeah, but what's the angle? Well what so like
One gets the other one's wife or uh there's a mystery kidnapping or Exactly. So it's like, well, I think we need to have an angle here. So Deborah, the the Austin's wife was gonna be the Rock's manager. Can you imagine the scenes? We've got Rock versus Hogan for WrestleMania XA. Yeah, but what's the angle? Yeah. Oh I know.
There the NWO incapacitate the rock and he has to go to a medical facility and then Hogan runs into that ambulance in a lorry. That's the angle, that's what we're gonna do. Got Brett vs. Vincent Russell. Yeah, but what's the angle to do around that? He he can't help him. But here this is a great example of keeping it simple because all the stuff's there, you don't need to overcomplicate it.
¶ Death Riders vs Don Callis Family
They're they're two baby faces, they both lay out their positions. I think they both got justification for hating each other. And then like they're both you know, I think Kenny slaps Swerve, doesn't he, after the promo line. Swerve just turns round with that momentum.
takes off his jacket. Kenny just starts unbuttoning his cuffs. You're like, Yeah, let's go. It's a great line in this as well when um Kenny said, uh you keep saying this is Swerve's house, but if it comes to it, I know a friend who can burn down
I think that's out of order. I think that is that is too far. And then Swerve was like, I'm gonna put you in the hospital, you won't get out up next time. It was a nice escalation of two guys starting off with here's the reason we don't like each other professionally.
probably getting a bit angry, carried away, and then they say some very mean things and it blows over into tussles. Yeah, it was really, really great. Uh the other thing I thought was really interesting about this was the crowd reactions, because the crowd, like, they were s so into both of these guys. The line that didn't get much of a response
was you were suspended. You were either injured or suspended. Like that is a big insider thing. That's referencing Brawl Out. That's referencing punk. Not much of a reaction to that line. Which says to me it's either one of two things. Either one, there's a sort of a new audience that is coming in that aren't really aware of some of that stuff, or B, people have moved on.
Yeah. I also I I don't think of Kenny as suspended. You know, he he was, but he's not the one I think of. I think Hangman and Punk So maybe it just didn't land. I get why they're not. But I feel like he was. Renee interviewed Carl Fletcher backstage and Don Callis said that he's gonna beat him uh beat Champa tonight and he's gonna return to Australia as a hometown hero. Get a hero's welcome. They kept saying that over and over again. I'm gonna get my heroes welcome that I deserve.
And Carl said, Tonight, Don, I hope you just have a nice time on commentary. I'm gonna do this on my own. And Don kisses Carl's head and goes, Son o no. Love done. Um yeah, so clearly setting up interference in that match. Well, yeah. We then got the Death Riders, John Moxley, Pac and Claudio Castignoldi taking on the Don Callis family of Konoske Takeshta, Mark Davis and Josh Alexander. This man. Ruled. Absolutely slap. It's the sort of
Second instalment of the trios match from the previous week where the Callis family won. So the Death Riders brought out V A team. I think last week it was Moxley, Garcia and Utah.
¶ Kyle Fletcher vs Tommaso Ciampa
I think it might have been Pac as well, but Garcia was certainly on the team. So he'll bring up the the big nips, the big guns. Yep, definitely the big nips in Claudio. So he comes in. We get some great stuff with Claudio and Mark Davis again using Not just to get over the great rivalry of Techestra and Mox, but elevating Davis within it. He he's really impressing. Claudia.
hits this goddamn deadlift suplex on Mark Davis. I Googled Mark Davis's weight. Hundred and ten kilograms. To do that in that sort of unwieldy load, uh it's like It's like one and a half of me. Oh okay. That's I mean that seems big. Mm. Yeah. But that unwieldy weight, the shape Davis is, that he Davis could not help him. He was not on the floor to kick off. He was go but Claudio's insanely strong. I also love the the story they took got told in the finish, which was Josh.
Mark and Kanuske Tikeshta systematically removed Pac from the situation. remove Claudio from the situation just so they can target Marks. But then Pac manages to get back in. So they take Pack out again, but then Claudio gets back in and Pac gets back in as well. They are a a formed unit.
Even though it's a bit like the shield, really in a way, of just like yeah, you can take out one of them, but that one will find their way back in because they will leap to the defense of their leader in John Martin. And a le and so then they took out their their two guys and left Moxie alone so we could hit Josh Alexander with the death rider to get the win.
Fantastic match, fantastic action. And they've done so well, it's not until now I'm thinking, wasn't well were you predicting the Death Riders to turn on Mox? Yeah. So and I feel like if this was WWE we'd go, yeah, but come on, get on with the thing already. But because the the feud is great with Takeshta, the action's so exciting.
Uh this is a long term story being told with different episodes within and I think they're doing it very well. For the TNT Championship, Tomasso Champa defended against Kyle Fletcher. This match ruled. You gotta you gotta watch this match. Like if you if you watch this show and you don't watch AEW, you're probably not watching this section. But if you're not watching AEW or if you just consume it through highlights
You gotta watch this match, please. Yeah, this was Black and Gold Era Champa Unleashed. A lot of like what were you doing twiddling your thumbs on the main roster for all those years? Like just sort of doing now. This was Champ Revolt. And Champ has had a great run in AEW anyway, because like he had a great match when he won the title, had the great three-way on collision. And then has another great match here. So it really does feel like it's a rejuvenation of Tommaso Champa.
And I got suckered in by the end of this'cause when they made the call, five minutes remaining actually when they made the call, ten minutes remaining, I was like, All right, we're setting people up here so we can get to the time Do do the rematch in Grand Slam. Kyle wins it there. And when they announced five minutes remaining, you could hear the crowd kind of groan a little bit like, Ah okay, yeah, so time limit draw there.
But the action was so frenetic in that final stretch. There was a moment when I I think the the criticism against this match, we'll get into some of the feedback a bit later on, won too many kick outs. Like there was too like Fletcher kicked out like four of the the running. Um flipper kicked out of the brain bus. But my one of my favourite spots of this is when uh Champa kicks out of the brain buster.
Fletcher goes to do the top rope brain buster, and Champa reverses it in one fluid motion, gets out of the brain buster, and hits a German super. Not like lands on his feet, repositions, hit his German suplex. As he was tr reversing the move, hit the German suplex. It was nuts. Yeah. I so d I'm not gonna like say that isn't valid, but
Sometimes it's a it is a vibes gut based thing. I never once in this match was taken out of it. Yeah. Every near fall I was like, Oh my god, oh my god, I was escalating. So for me it worked. Yeah. There's an argument th between Meltzer and Cornet from like back in the day when Cornet was really like I say when he was really still is when he was on his anti-Young Bucks train, and he was on his sort of like anti-this indie style train and the P WG style of race.
And he was like, It's bad, it kills wrestling. And Meltzer's argument was, listen to the crowd. The crowd are going nuts for it. So clearly it does work. It's whether you love it or not, if the crowd are really into it, then something is working.
I remember back when you and I were reviewing Bad Times Raw and we were looking at the Bobby Lashley, Rusev, CJ Perrot, the Lana like love triangle thing, and we were like this is dreadful TV. But the live crowd are into it. So while it's not for me, this crowd are super into it.
This crowd here. You can say uh if you don't think there was too many near fours, I think that's your prerogative. This crowd didn't. This crowd went into every single one of the near falls and you can tell that because they got louder with each one of them. Until they got to the finish when like Fletcher just really fired up and he hit one last brain buster to get the win and regain his.
Yeah, for me and like you said, the sound of the crowd, they finished on the climax. They did. It didn't feel and maybe the time goal was a part of that because people were expecting it to go to the twenty minute draw um, but two minutes beforehand I think. Carl got that win. Excellent match. I know Champa didn't get the long reign.
I d I I I d I don't feel like it makes him look bad though. No, I don't think it makes him look bad. I I th I if anything, I feel like this is part of AEW's booking philosophy now, which I'm a really big fan of at the moment. There's daylight between everyone. Daylight, Luke. And everyone knows what that phrase means. It means that you can barely see
any gap between them. Have you looked into this? This is this is b this is coming off the back of a TLC record for an episode that won't be out until next Saturday not even this Saturday, yeah, next Saturday. Um So right now I feel like Champa just beat Briscoe, Fletcher just beat Champa. These three guys are like on the level. They're they're the three guys going for the belt. Can I give you my theory? Champa's already injured.
My theory is because at the end of this, Fletcher says, I did it and I did it on my own. More like Owen Hart. Just me. Woo! I did it on my own. And then Mark Briscoe comes out and he says, You boy, you and I are three and three. Let's do this one more time and Carl responds, You like to say reach for the sky? We're gonna do this in front of my hometown in Sydney, Australia, and it's gonna be a lad That's and that's it. This is the end of the feud. This is the best of seven series.
My theory is Champa was never supposed to win. Yeah, yeah.'Cause he won it from Mark. So Mark beat Fletcher for the title, Mark holds it until now, and then you have the match in Sydney where Carl regains the title in front of his hometown people, and that's the end of the feud. That's the best of seven.
But then the opportunity came up to sign Tommaso Champa and what better way to kind of like make a bit of a splash and potentially boost those collision ratings and kind of get people talking about you than doing a shock title change? And then just putting the title back onto Carl Fletcher, so you can then go back onto your original path of Fletcher has the holds aloft the TNT championship in Australia. Yeah. I I think you you're probably on to something there. That's what it feels
¶ Orange Cassidy & Roderick Strong vs Clark Connors & Daniel Garcia
And credit to the bookers, if they if that is the case, for going with an a a new opportunity rather than working against it and delaying things,'cause god damn have we seen so many times that you wait and you wait. Uh right now this is great. Champa better stay at this level. That because if he's not if he goes down the card or he's not in the mix in a month, then it's a failure. And we have seen that a lot with AEW. But right now they've got the goodwill, I'm confident.
Yep, I said it when Champa debuted. Uh there is a lot there's a precedence within AEW of you having a hot first month and then trailing off a little bit. And I I really don't want to see that from him because his work has been incredible since he came in. The other argument to say for it is that maybe Tony saw that oh well Mark's going to retain against collision. As he was like, Oh, fine then.
I'll do the thing you don't expect to be if you think it's too predictable. Which is what Triple H did with Cody and Drew. Everyone thought Drew was gonna lose. Fine, I'll put the belt on him then. You need to do that. And not everything should be a long term story. Sometimes they should have short, shocking tidal reigns. Also, it's the team. Yeah, at the end of the day, um there's four other of those in this same company. Uh but just to go back to the ladder match announcement.
I I I sometimes like m am I too old now? Do I just not pop for match announcements? No, it's because match announcements and steps were overdone. When Carl said in a ladderman, The way they built to it, the idea of it being tied to Briscoe's Reach for the Sky. I I yeah, I I I I popped. I you know, and I'm gonna pop for that TLC match announcement too. Um I've written in my notes here. Mark Davis comes up. I meant Mark Lusco. Uh maybe Vince was on something about people having similar names.
Um we get a a promo for uh Babes of Wrath against Megabad against their for their tag title shot this weekend, or tag title defense rather. And then Daniel Garcia and Clark Connors took on Orange Cassidy and Roderick Strong. There were problems between Orange Cassidy and Rodriguez. Uh to the point where Roddy
¶ Young Bucks vs Private Party vs Rascalz
Walked out on Orange Cassidy. Cassidy accepted this match on Roddy's behalf without asking him. Because which is, you know, the currently the KL. of uh of AEW at this point. I don't see I mean the the faction chaos, not the the the concept of chaos.
But unfortunately the the cockiness of their heels things you got Daniel Garcia and Clark Connors being like Well now this guy's on his own what an easy two on one victory for us Oh no Darby Allen has kidnapped Clark Connors and Daniel's like oh now what do we do?
And then he got caught in the mousetrap by Orange Castie, who got the win. Effectively stole the win from him. And Garcia's selling of this loss I thought was awesome. He was so frustrated. And Moxie was on commentary. And Moxie was me like, sorry.
It's okay. And he was really trying to like play the fatherly figure to him, but Garcia was like fuming. I thought it was I really liked this. Yeah, really fun sort of mid card action that made sense with the finish. D did Danielson leave commentary when Mox joined? Ooh, I didn't hit when Moxie joined commentary I was like, Is that uh is he cool with Brian now?
And then I didn't hear Danielson for the match. No, I can't remember. So I I don't know. Storm appears in the luxury box uh and she called uh Marina Sh Marina Shapir a mixed martial arsehole. Very funny. But Wheelie Uta comes out, and I think that maybe Tony Storm should have watched her words, because Marina Shafir dragged out Mina via mother's milk, and Wheelieuta cut off Mina Shirakawa's ponytail. Yeah.
What a bastard. Great heat this got. Yeah, yeah. It was a very good angle to make this, you know, fun comedy feud feel like a serious thing. Now th this'cause this is the go home show. Yeah. Uh very good stuff. Surely it's Hutter's hair. Sure. Yeah. He's been growing it so long for so long. And the beard, yeah.
Don and Andrade cut a promo from last week to hype up Grand Slam, page cut a return promo, and then two thirds of Jet Set Rodeo cut a promo looking for challenges for their trio's titles. Love that as a name. Because it it is a reference to something from my childhood. Ergo pops me, forty year old millennial man. And then the young bucks took on little rascals. Little rascals. Little rascals. Yeah, but I'm doing it to pop you. That's why I do anything.
Uh and the mystery team in a number one contenders match which turned out to be Private Party, their first match in AEW since January of last year, when they dropped the belts to hurt Yeah, so well it you know, it's not the normal lineup of private party. Of course you've got Isaiah Casty, but then there's a new guy who's a eater Mark Quen. Mark Quen has put on some bolts. Jesus Christ.
So according to Fight Force Select, they put this report out before Dynamite aired that they'd been asking around if Private Party were going to be the missing. They did not say in that report they've signed new deals. It was they're still under contract. I don't think this is a return for private party. I'm wondering if this is your contracts are coming up soon. Maybe we'll put you on TV to try and convince you to stay. I think they're likely still WWE based.
Yeah, yeah, maybe. In that case, why wouldn't they take the pin or why wouldn't they get the win to convince him to stay Crowd loved them though. Yeah, crowd. Very happy to see them back. Are they local? Yeah, I think they might be because they're part of that it's California, they're part of that P W G crowd. Yeah, it makes sense to have them here then. And this was a P W
Just so much fun. The Rascals, sorry, the Rascals, you know the Rascals. The Young Bucks, despite being 40 and 36, I looked this up. It doesn't feel like they have aged. Younger than Powerhouse Hobbs. Yeah, isn't that mad? That Matt Jackson, the oldest one, is younger than Powerhouse Hobbs. Honestly, if you'd have told me I thought Powerhouse Hobbs was in this late.
Yes. I I I asked Anna last night. I said, How old do you think this person is? Uh he's been wrestling for about five, six years on AEW and she goes, thirty I went, forty one and she went, Oh yeah, I can see that. I was like, What the You just said thirty?
I honestly I thought he was in his late twenties. When people you know, he's I stay five, I was like, Oh, he's older than I thought. Well we know I was like, he's really older than I thought he's older than me. Well we now know why WWE signed him. Uh but this was awesome match. The point I was brought this up because it's the young bucks in there with like the younger generation of of private party and little rascals. And
It they never feel like they're out of place. Th these are PWG matches the Bucks were having ten years ago, fifteen years ago, and they're still doing them effortless like flawless. Uh I I would say though, if I'm being a hyper hypercritical th there is an element of staleness to it, you know, like I love the Young Bucks. I want to see Young Bucks versus FTR as much as possible. But to go back to that now and the Young Bucks, I enjoyed their characters so much last year
with the the heel stuff and being down on money. And rather than make a new kind of babyface character, they've gone right back to before. Nostalgiact. Yeah, it feels a bit like that. Which, you know I'm I'm not as into but I always enjoy watching them wrestle. Yeah, and again I think it's look listen to the crowd, like the crowd are going, I uh am I super into the idea? Am I super kick party into the idea? Probably not. Like what I hope if they're gonna do Bucks versus FTR
And which you know is a well they do keep going back to and they do sort of keep, you know, mining from. If they are gonna go back to I think you need to have a match that's as good as that first one. Because I don't think they've had a match as good as that first one that they've had. And then it's if it's not, then it's law of diminishing returns. With the I I mentioned the long term story of Moxley and the Death Riders earlier, which I think they're doing very well stretching out.
I feel the tag division is kind of at the mercy of Edge and Christian. Yeah. I I th I don't feel like I can move ahead with anything until Edge and Christian are back and just win the belts from F T R. Yeah. Uh but you know, this will be a thumb filler feud before Edges latest TV shows duh. So we got the announcement that AEW all in ticket sales are gonna be on uh in March, uh after Revolution.'Cause then we got a video promo for Will Osprey talking about when I return.
And ticket sales going on after Revolution suggests to me that the main event will be MJF retaining the side lover, whomever it is, and then Osprey makes his return, stare down with MJF, point at the side. And it's to let you know that's gonna be your main events of all in, Will Ospreay versus MJF as a way to sell tickets. God, I hope so. And what what a way to to do it as well. Uh Melt has said quite cryptically last week
like I think someone asked him, When are they gonna put tickets on sale for All In? And Meltzer said, Tony will put them on sale when Tony thinks There is an opportunity to sell the most tickets possible. And what you've just described is it, isn't it? That's the way to do it. Can I give you my second uh worldview? Uh-huh. This is one it's a bit more out there of like, you know, I that that's what I think will happen. What I like to happen.
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Then AJ debuts. Oh and then you have and you do that all out double debut of Danielson and and Adam Cole. And then AJ Styles comes down and he stares down with Osprey and points out. Oh my gosh, that's all like my my crazy world is in. What the hell? I was really into the first one and now you've gone Like I don't think AJ's gonna wrestle again.
That's my gut vibe at the moment. But wrestling Will. AJ is Will's hero. I know. Them doing a number one contender's feud or whatever it is or or AJ is the feud with MJF. until Wall In and and the first will I spray tidal defenses against style I I th I you could do okay, if I'm just gonna go down my crazy hole my crazy theory that I'm putting out here, not a theory but sort of like my crazy fantasy booking, AJ comes out and it's him and Will.
That's your next pay per view match. That's your double or nothing match. Number one. But Will's back in the ring. So it's Will in the ring. I don't think it comes back to Will. Uh in ring. Yeah. Maybe I mean maybe. I'm just going down my f crazy fancy book in route. So it's AJ and um Will at Double or Nothing to set up all in. And then the actual all-in match because it will be MJ versus Will Os. It's AJ versus Kenny in a singles match.
Yeah, tha I mean, that would be great. And to add a little bit more spice, Will Osprey challenges AJ Styles to their match in a traditional T N A six sided ring. Which would be the most will idea we could possibly present. When I like you know, when we were talking back in twenty twenty, so all he wanted was like bring but we gotta bring it. Six six sided ring man. It's like I don't know where to get one. It's the pandemic.
Uh but yeah, this this was good. This was very good. And then they showed Hook watching from the the top rows sort of scouting the tag division. He's the the new leader of the ops while Samoa Joe's out. Uh FTR come out afterwards, stare down with Bucks, little scuffle. Yeah. Got a video for MJ vs. Brody King,'cause that's happening this weekend. And the main event was Tecla vs. Chris Statlander for the AEW Women's Championship in Australia.
Yeah, so this was two hours in, uh just like last week, they started the main event. At the time we all agreed the show would finish. Well, we agreed, but time Warner have got their own ideas. Uh so I saw, you know, because I'd watch it the next day very early. And I can see that the timeline is two hours seventy minutes. So that th a lot of the the commentary was like, Well, you know, it's a sixty minute time limit, but this is a strap match. I don't know if the they can with
It's a it's a punishing match. Danielson was great on commentary. So good. Because he had that great strap match with it was Ricky Starks, wasn't it? And he said, I've been told we've only got one strap in the company. And that's the same strap that we use. Bits of my blood are on that strap. I know Brian Danielson the way that I think I know Brian Danielson. He loves that idea.
It's the coolest thing in the world. But it makes the strap have this sort of mythical importance. It's a hallowed strap. It's got the history to it. Yeah, he did reference the the Ricky Saints or the Ricky Star. Without saying him by name as well. He says, I've had a strap match before with another guy. So I would have thought they would have just said his name. But yeah, whatever.
This was a really, really good match. Very physical. Uh Krista Atlanta got busted open. Oh, she did a big blade job. Yeah. She was gushing blood over her face. I thought she was great. I thought Ted was great. There was a moment when um Statlander started whipping herself to sort of like hype herself up in this match. I thought she was so cool. But I didn't love the finish. I was so into this match. Bearing in mind it's no DQ and then the Sisters of Sin run down.
One of them distracts the referee, so the other it's not you're not gonna get disqualified. You may as well just attack her. The referee's not gonna do anything about it. She'll be like, get out of the ring. You're the wrestlers, like you are gonna overpower them. I hate in no DQ matches, but you still have to do a distraction with the referee. But it did not need a distraction interference finish. I felt I th felt it actually quietened the crowd down.
For the eventual finish. Yeah, it's good to compare it to Champa Fletcher. You know, both matches, building, building, building. I'd say Fletcher and Ch Champa continued to build and finished on the climax. This one was building, then that happened and it started to go down and it ended a bit below the peak. My my uh issue with it's slightly different. So the finish is using the strap, really smart, um Chris Statlander tied up Tekla and and then hit the well Wednesday night fever it would be.
And that's when the Sisters of Sim run in. Fine. Don't mind that. And then the referee distraction happens which is pointless. Tecla is up right away. And she's putting uh Chris is strapping Chris's hands behind the back and it was a it's a knee to win. The stomp. The stom to win, yeah. And then yeah, new champion. I'm like
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And then and then Windsor and Jamie Hayter run down to chase off the beatdown of Chris. This is a this is a big surprise shocking moment. I really think it could have done with First of all, Tecla selling the effects of the Wednesday night fever. Mm-hmm. Sure have Sisters of Sim running, but then maybe also have Hater
And Windsor run down then as well. And that brawl and the referees trying to deal with that and that stopping the Chris getting the pin and stuff. And then then Tecla, after selling, hits the surprise stomp. And she celebrates. Yeah. And the end of this this show should be her celebrating and the rest of them going like, oh no. Yeah. Whereas what it was, it was Hater and Windsor standing tall.
Yeah, it's it reminds me of uh as in the opposite way, when Thunder Rosa won the belt on Dynamite and like they did this sort of like pure emotion finish and it was just her celebrating and you do the big confetti uh when Orange Cassidy won the international title and you did the big orange confetti
for it. Uh you should make these tile changes feel like a big deal. This did not feel like it was a big deal because they immediately moved on to the next thing, which is they did a beatdown angle afterwards and the brawling birds ran down to chase them off. I thought it was it actually undermined the title. Yeah. I really love the decision. I love the match. I think Tekla is it's what a great
like boost to her when Chris doesn't need it anymore, I don't think. And I think it elevates everyone, but just again it was be sort of being hypercritical'cause the show is was excellent. So good. That that bit I think was Like you said, it just undermines the finish there. Hör upp. Tac för ett nytt strikttipskvist Mysterium. Vilket lag spelar på Citiground? Och det är en letro tack. Skog i stan. Smart. Nottingham Forest. Rätt tårnigt.
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Uh the feedback that we got over at patreon.com forward slash wrestletalk your dynamite thoughts. Butch Rosser said A plus, two dope title matches, with one being an early match of the year contender and all the undercard matches were good too. Uh Amotr uh Amantra says, Excellent show tonight. Started strong with swerving Kenny and ended strong with the women's title strike.
Uh Champa versus Fletcher was incredible too, even if I'm not thrilled about the outcome and follow-up. Brody, Champa getting it less than two weeks and not even a custom belt makes it feel like a just do a moment thing. Still plenty of time, so I'm not to do with him, and hopefully Fletcher finally gets his ping.
TNT Championship Belt. Jade, I'm not sure what I'm more frustrated with, the fact that Champe was a transitional champion uh for yet another Mark Briscoe match that didn't need a title, or the fact that Kyle kicked out of four knee strikes and a brain buster in the span of four minutes.
Now I'm not usually one to complain about protecting finishes or too many kick outs, but that felt really excessive in the final stretch there. Praying Champer will continue to make an impact over there as he's one of my all-time favorites, truly a wonder-a-kind talent. Michael, isn't this what an episode of Wrestling Programme is supposed to feel like?
Variety, story, delivery, character development, and consistent balance of wrestling. Critically it makes you want to watch the next programme, in this case with a very promising Grand Slam. Or Champa vs. Fletcher on Champa vs. Fletcher, I think acknowledging that getting a match like that on TV feels special again.
In a m must-watch kind of way, it brings Osprey to mind. How would you judge AEW's ability to manage this period without Will? That's what we're saying earlier. Like it's been amazing. Yeah, he he was meant to be their top guy. He's their top babyface. And yeah. Of course he's missed, can't wait for him to come back, but
I would hardly say it's like it's it's WWE in two thousand. Austin's out. Yeah. But they managed to build so many new stars, Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, Jericho, Triple H Rock, yeah. And lastly here, Callum. I love the young buck.
But FTR Young Bucks every year or uh or shows me they haven't really built any other big tag teams in the division. Where are Cope and Christian? At this point they spent so much time out, I just want to come back and get this feud over with so we can move on with the division. Which I do think is a good point. I actually had forgot about Copen Christian. Yeah. Oh they'll I'll they'll show up again. Yeah. So uh which what do you want to do first? Yes.
We've not had a jingle. No one sent in a jingle? No. Okay, support at wrestletaugh.com. Make a jingle for this segment, please. We can't be bothered. Uh so yeah, this is the uh the just the recap. If you missed last week's episode, Dave Meltzer got in some hot water because he said Billy Gunn isn't in the top two hundred wrestlers of his time. And
We're we're we're not gonna answer that. We're gonna see where he is in the overall scheme of all wrestlers ever. And on last week's episode we went through about fifteen names and only one of them fell below Billy Gunn. No, he actually ended up at on the bottom third. So currently worse than Billy Gunn, Great Carly, Diego, which is Primo Cologne, uh Rusev, Zach Ryder in the mid.
Felt harsh that Russo was under there. I mean I still I still think that marginal cases. And then above, Dolph Sigler, The Rock, John Cena, CM Punk, Rick Flair, Big Boss Man, Sheamers, Kofi Kingston, K number. Today I ask you, Luke, is Mick Foley better than Billy Gum? Yes. Absolutely he is. Is Drew McIntyre better than Billy Gum? Absolutely he is. Is Sting better than Billy Gum? Absolutely yes. Is Mercedes Monet better than Billy Gum? Yeah.
Absolutely. Is Paul White big show better than Billy Gunn? Great question. And this is the showgun's tag team as well. These are former tag partners going at it. Is Big Show better than Billy Gun? Well, okay, I'm actually gonna say Billy Gun is better than Big Show because when Big Show was at his sort of peak within the WWF, they kept sending him to OVW to lose weight and learn how to work and get a better act.
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And he'd come back to the main roster, gain weight, learn forget how to work and have a bad attitude. So they'd just send him back to OVW again. Really good entrance themes for both guys as well. Yeah. Like classic attitude era entrance themes. I just with with Big Show his ability to cry in in angles with the authority
I've I've I'm I'm also multi-time champion. I think Big Show is better than Billy Gnavey. I've made my case, but I I think you could be right. He is a multi-time world champion. He has also headlined a wrestle. I mean here. Should we not do that? Ha ha ha ha ha! Yeah, maybe there are some wishes. We'll skip some. Because, you know, w he is a better M ring wrestler. I just don't want to argue the case that anyone is
But Chris Benoit's better than someone. Uh Matt Hardy. Mm. Matt Hardy was certainly more over than Billy Gunn was at the time. And he he had a whole second run. The Hardees were more over than the um the broken stuff. Uh Shinsuke Nakamura. Yeah, it's better than that. Hiroshi Tanahashi. Yeah, I don't know. Edge case. I th I think Tanahashi's probably probably better than Billy Gunner. John Morrison. Mmm.
Fascinating. Fascinating. This is where it picks up, isn't it? I mean one of them is a former TNA one. Which Billy Gunn could never do and he was in T N A. I think Billy Gunn is better than John Mo Again, not not j we're not talking pure in ring work. Overall. Yeah. I think I would go I think Billy Gunn has got a better legacy and impact on the industry than John Morrison has had.
Even though Billy Gunn came into TNA as an ex WWE guy and could not get pushed into the main event scene, but John Morrison could. Bray Wyatt? Yeah. Better. Is Zack Saber Jr. better than Billy Gunn? Oh I mean that's a tricky one. It's it's daylight between them, some often say. Often compared Billy Gunn and Zack Saber Jr. We'll say just about. Is Hangman Page better than Billy Gunn? Uh is Finn Banner beta better than Billy Gunn?
Is Becky Lynch better than Billy Gunn? Yeah. Is EO Sky better than Billy Gunn? Absolutely. Okay, so Billy Gunn, that was a rough week. That was a rough week for Billy Gunn. Now you'd think, wow, Ollie used a lot of like top names there. That's quite unfair on Billy Gum. I do have a list of five hundred names here, which are supposed to be all over eras and promotions. I'd say most of them are better than Billy...
But we'll we we can't tell for sure un until we go through one by one. So yeah, yeah, if you want to argue with any of those points, please do in the comments. But Now we have the reveal the C E X donation. Let me quickly get up what everybody's called a donation. Yeah, I mean it'd be don't but it felt like it. It's been donated to your back pocket, I think.
Uh so shall I read through? Do you want to just tell the story of how we got these first? Okay, so one of the guys who works in the office, his brother was clearing out his loft. This was nine months ago. And he brought him two big boxes of D I think it was three, big boxes of DVDs, blue ray. Most of them were wrestling, but they were all over the place.
And some of them, I'm pretty sure, are legal copies. We got rid of the the bad ones. We we all took our favorite ones. Yeah, I took quite a few of those resting ones I really want. A lot of the documentary ones that we want to know about. Because they're not like on Netflix. And then there was what was left, which was a lot of Best of Raw versus SmackDown 2010. There was Elimination Chamber 2020. A lot of pandemic.
Like you're like, did this get released on Blu-ray? A lot of like sort of big question mark ones of like, huh, that's surprising. But the it was the I would say most because we took the Blu-ray ones, most of them were DVD. So I uh after nine months I got too annoyed with them yesterday and I was like, I'm I'm got I'm taking these down to CX. You gotta clear up your room, guys.
So I uh I I got them. We all took bets on how much they would cost. So I've got this. Kieran, fifty six pounds. But by the way, I think there's probably about I would say a hundred discs in So Kieran's guess, uh fifty six pounds, Adam's guess, Adam witnessed. £34.90. Dominic Allen, ten pounds. Bear in mind the winner actually does win a earn a tenor and Dom's point was like I think this will cover the winner's purse. Abby, 17 pounds forty. Brandon, at least six pounds.
Wesley, thirty eight pounds, sixty. Rich sixty two pounds forty Um but then also guessed zero pounds. Dan eight pounds. Alex forty two pounds, Tony twelve pounds nineteen, and my guess was twenty. And a lot of that was based on I was thinking you're probably going to get about sort of 50p per DVD. Yeah. But some of the resting ones you might get say a quid for.
Or like a pound twenty four or something like that. Yeah, because they're more they're a bit more like they're special interest, they call customers. I was sort of thinking like when I did Music Magpie many years ago, you get way less than you think. for these'cause a lot of them will be like if you've got a hundred copies of Elimination Chamber twenty twenty, you're gonna get ten P for it.
So uh yeah, I I get there in the rain. Very difficult to carry this amount of DVDs. I suppose you did it last night. Uh and uh the the the the cab can only drop me off so close to the shopping centre in Worthamstoke I walk them through, I walk into CEX, they're an hour and a quarter away from closing, and I've got to meet Anna, my partner, in Lidl to do our weekly shop in fifteen minutes.
Badly thought out. Yeah, so what is you did the big shop first? No no no no. I I was gonna be massively late for the big shop. They've got a scan HDVD. Yeah, what did you think of it? I don't know. I thought What did you think was of course they have to scan each other? I thought I could leave them and be like Very quid. I thought I could leave them, all of them behind the desk. And they to work on it on their own pace. And I would come back in Friday and have four hundred pounds waiting for me.
Yeah, that's not that's not really how it works. I mean, I used to work in GameStation in Portsmouth, so I am quite well versed in the I've just cleared out the loft. Here are three big boxes of Mega Drive games and some SNES games, and you have to scan each one of them individually.
And, you know, the it w it was badly thought out because even if they did take those things or or they scanned them all in in time, I'd be left with two large boxes, plastic boxes. Yeah. Um So I got there and the guy looked at me and went, We close in an hour and I said, Well y you close at seven and he said, Yeah and I said, Well that's an hour and a half Yeah.
And that and then he was like, We c we can't do this. He said, We can't do this. I was like and I just I just collapsed. And I was like, but what am I gonna do? I've gotta I've gotta go to Lidl. I've got to do the big shop. And and then Anna's found me. She turns up, she walks into CEX. I'd only told her about 10 minutes before.
And she's like, Why are you doing this now? I said, Because it's it's been there for nine months, like in my head, it made emotional sense. And I just turned to the guy I was like, Look, look, what what can you do for me? What can you do here? He said, We can do thirty. What thirty of the DVD? Thirty I could scan thirty of them now. I was like, so you can't keep them? No, we can't do that. And he he looked at them, he gave them once over and he said, Honestly, all the DVDs is your your
So, we had about thirty blu rays. Okay. And he scanned the th th the rest I just gave to a thank god a charity shop was open because there was so many left. I just gave them to a charity shop. So So if you're ever in Warthamstone, you can pick up a copy of Noah on DVD if you've got to be. Uh but if if you want uh Extreme Rules twenty seventeen, um that is at Crisis.
On Worthamstow High Street. It was a crisis. A homeless charity. Uh and a gift aid, I'm a nice guy. And here's what we got. After Earth Blu-ray. One penny. Smoke. The Apparition Blu-ray. They're all they're all Blu-ray. One penny. Australia, one penny. Bangkok Dangerous, one penny. Uh-oh. Book of Eli ten P. Cowboys and Aliens, one penny. Oh no. Dark skies, Tempe. Day after tomorrow, Tempe. Don't be afraid of the dark.
ninety P. Hello. Exodus Gods and Kings one P. Exodus Gods and Kings one P. There were two of them. The Expendables two one P House at the end of the street, 1P. Justice, 1P. Noing, 1P. Mama, 90 P. Hello. Noah? Seventy P What? Passengers, ten P priest, ten P. Quantum Apocalypse, one. Star Trek Into Darkness one P. Taken one P. Total Recall twenty twelve one P. Underworld Awakening. It's a three D disc that. One P. Unstoppable.
One P. Now for the purpose of this podcast, which is actually quite interesting to see where the DVD wrestling market is for resale. Because the people who have gone for the big numbers, your fifty-six pounds, your sixty odds, they're in trouble here because Oh yeah. Cumulatively what you laid out there was about two fifty. Maybe even that's a stretch. Uh yeah, I think it's yeah, it's about that. Uh WWE TLC Tables, Ladders and Chairs twenty twelve.
Five pounds. Here we go. All right. WWE Helena Cell twenty thirteen. One pound. Okay. WWE payback twenty thirteen. Ninety P Oh think I say ninety pounds for a second then. WWE Survivor Series 2013 Ten P. Oh no. Oh no it's falling. It's falling. And that's it. Those are all the wrestling Blu-rays, because most of us took the other ones. And bearing in mind this is the trade in America.
Yes. So I went for trading credit rather than the actual cash value. Because it's less. The cash value was five pounds ninety. Yeah, it's c it is less. So I went for a a store credit of ten pounds eighty. Ten pounds eighty. Okay. So we're doing prices right rules. Uh honestly I think we gotta go with the cash because I said to everyone it's the cash trading. Okay. I didn't expect it to be that low. I think Brandon said bang on six.
So what was the number? It was like five pounds ninety. In which case it's Brandon then. Brandon gets six pounds. Yeah. So no, Brandon gets ten pounds. Well, this is no that's what I'm saying, he guessed six pounds. He guessing yeah. So so this is the situation I'm in right now. I said I'll give a tenner of the company money to whoever's closest as a bit of fun. Uh and I paid twenty five quid to get the Uber to CX.
Plus my time. I won't I won't actually I won't invoice for my time here. That's a very generous of you. I am down thirty quid. But at least they're not in the office anymore. There is that. And that's actually you know Tony said he would take them to the tip. He was like, You won't get any money for it, let me take them to the tip. And I was like, No, no, no, I think there's something here.
I mean there nearly was. One of them was worth five quids. Well but maybe if we didn't take all the good ones. Yeah, although I didn't I didn't take a lot of blu rays though. I took mostly D V Dcause that was where all the best ones were. I took all the good Blu rays. I've got like uh the greatest What what's the the the Austin Blu-ray? Yeah. Uh the Brett and Sean Blu-ray. I think those would have been worth two to five pounds each.
But yeah, there we go. That's uh what an adventure. What a roller coaster we were on. Yeah. Uh Anna was not happy. Were you? Uh, I was happy I kept on saying Yeah, but uh it it's done now, so that's good. It's that it's been going on for nine months, so it's but at least it's done.'Cause you did say when you opened this, you did say that it it did ruin your evening somewhat. Yeah, well it w just it lingered there, you know.
Because we were then late going to Anna had to help me carry all the DVDs to the charity shop down the road. What did you do with the boxes? Um I love. You fly tip. No no no no no it's fine, it's fine. Is it I'm pretty sure it's not. Wednesday's market day. Um so all the market stalls collect their recycling and their plastic waste and they put them in the street
for the rubbish guys to collect overnight. And were you doing a market? I put the plastic with the plastic and it fit like it was satisfying it was meant to be. I hope that no one who works for the Met is a is a fan of this show and watching. Yeah, because that's what they do with their time now. They lock up they lock up guys like me making innocent social media posts rather than dealing with the real issues.
Can't put anything on the street. There's mobile phone theft out there, guys. Can't put anything on the streets these days. Uh yes, so the moral of the story is don't throw anything away and hoard. So, um comments from last week? I didn't get anything. Did you get any recommendations? I was too busy with the ass syntax. Thank you.
Uh recommend let's go to recommendations. Should we go straight to recommendations? Let's go straight to recommendations. So I watched three episodes of that and I've really enjoyed it. It's got a new liner because uh can't have John Trode on TV anymore. So it's uh it's Matt. Are you telling me that's Greg Day that's Greg Wallace. Um it's uh Matt's Hebit.
from sat in the kitchen doing it. He's good. He is he's all right. I mean he wears the same thing all the time. He just wears navy t-shirts and anyway I'm not one to speak'cause I wear the same thing all the time as well. But if you what see Matt tell anything, he's wearing a a navy t shirt and a green khaki shirt. But yeah, Masters Professionals, uh love it. It's back. That's the thing I've probably watched the most
Uh yeah, that would be my recommendation. That is your recommendation. I'm gonna go Nouvelle Vogue. The Richard Linklather movie about the French new wave. I know I know the audience, big Jean Luc Goddard fans, big Claude Charbot fans. M my my Shah Bros Agnes Farda, yeah th there's there was women in the new wave as well. Not many, but there were a few directors.
If you don't know about it, your cinema doesn't exist today, scorsai sea, Spielberg, everything, unless you have the French New Wave in the sixties. That's true. It might just canonically wouldn't have happened. But like Hollywoods did exist. Yeah, and they were making boring moves. And that paved the way for It was the artistic and commercial success of the French New Wave that created the free form stuff for Hollywood and then you get the likes of uh Who Made Easy Rider.
You know, the the sort of very early stuff which became the Scorsese and the the brats of the seventies. But I'm more talking about how like Spielberg reinvented cinema with Jaws and invented the modern Hollywood blockbuster. Is that is that um is that i influenced by You don't get it without a Buddha flake. You don't get George Lucas creating uh the toyetic world of of Star Wars and creating that merchandise world without um Agnes
Agnes Vada. Agnes Vada. Yeah. Clio from five to seven. It's a movie. Uh yeah, it's it's a it's a fascinating period of film history. Uh I know it sounds pretentious, but the films actually slap. Like it's it's just It's a girl and a gun. It's a film noir. They're they're really fun. A Boodoo Souffle is is the Goddard movie that it focuses on. It's sort of the making of it. It's very tongue you know, it's linked later at the end of the day. He's a very good director. Very funny and self aware.
So yeah, I think that's out on Netflix soon because it's one of those. But I did see it at the cinema. Um so you can you can watch that and maybe that's an entryway into the most exciting period of film history. Can I give you an uh one more recommendation actually? Just a reminder myself. Um it is uh it's a podcast uh recommendation for you I'll open up the app, Craigy. Sorry, my watch is trying to update because that's the world we live in now where my watch has to do an update.
Well but Casio. I know, I know. Uh has a little light, so if I'm bored in with Cirque du Soleil I can look at what time it is. When you're not thinking about Austin McMahon and You rascals. You rascals. Uh I will recommend the most recent episode of Guys, the Brian Quimby part. Love that show. Love that show. Uh recent episodes have included Uh fishing guys, DIY guys, Ghostbusters guys, didn't like that one much because that's the one. I felt very seen at the time of that one.
Food network guys also felt a bit seen in that one. Bald guys, and the most recent episode circling you. And then we're gonna get wrestling guys. They did wrestling guys as episode one hundred because Brian is a wrestling guy. So um they to kinda reverse. But episode one five eight is Booby Guys.
So that's coming my way now. So that is one of those ones where they just seem to find the horniest guys on the planet talking about boobs. Uh JR making appearance and going to Hooters as a family restaurant. Um so yeah, it is there's uh the the description as well also has some cool books about boobs or reviews of books about boobs on Goodreads. So if you want it's honestly it's such a good podcast. Uh and yeah, Boob Guys, the uh from with Brian.
Uh well if you want uh wrestling guys though, we're here for you on patreon.com forward slash wrestletalk and on this podcast feed tomorrow and on YouTube. We have The next episode of our invasion retrospective. Yeah, there are six hours of podcasts available for you tomorrow if you're on patreon.com forward slash restalk. We've got our review of the game changing episode of Monday Night War history making episode here on YouTube.
And then over on Patreon the week after that where history has changed again when ECW is quote unquote bought uh by Vince McMahon and the WWF. But it turns out that Paul Heyman sort of insinuated that he owned it and he actually And it nearly got the invasion pay-per-view cancelled. We talk about all that and more. So that is coming tomorrow here. And we've also got the complete series of the most recent Monday Night War. It concluded this week or last week. So you can now watch.
All of the Monday Night War, all twenty five episodes, me versus Luke versus Dan. Watch that. You just have to pay once, which is remarkable. And then we're coming back with Monday Night War, of course, with the new game next month. And we have Some chaotic plans. Yeah, we've got a big plan for the next one. Uh but for now I've been Ali Davis. This has been Luke and D A D. Jam Radjam. Jam Radjam.
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