Seth Rollins Super Silly Circle Dance! WWE Raw March 9, 2026 Review

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Ooh, exciting. Yeah. Um, now I know how Juso feels. Do you wanna do you wanna run that back? Ollie said to me, Do you want to call this Seth silly circle dance? And I said more than anything. That's all I really want to talk about from this episode. Can I read you one of our patron feedbacks bit first? At patreon.com forward slash wrestletal. Frog page seventy five. Don't complain about the opening segment, guys. I'm sure it looked a lot cooler in Triple H's head. Uh Silliness is back.

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Blah blah blah. Buy a t-shirt. So, the start of Raw. I felt like WWE celebrated WrestleTalk 10 by giving us they gave us what we want. The start of Raw was Adam Pierce in the ring. You know, obviously we'd had five minutes of just shots of the exterior and people people walking, CM Punk was on his phone, you know, the the normal boring starts to Raw.

And then Adam Pierce is in the ring, and he says he's got some unfortunate business to attend to, and he calls out Seth Rollins, at which point a masked man ran in from the audience. Oh, okay, there he is. No, there's another one and another one and then they surrounded the ring and the crowd very generously I guess before the dancing had happened Started chanting holy yes. Holy yes. This I mean, great crowd tonight. When they were there for you things. When they were there for things, like

Angles. Well yeah, I was gonna say they they died the second that wrestling started. But when they were there for the angles and entrances, they were super into it. And I think they were a crowd that were playing along with uh the show as well. So gave this a obligatory Holy S chance. Yeah. And I bet it's not a cool sight. I bet at the start of it it looked visually interesting. Oh, is Seth debuting with his own retribution? Seth Tribution.

Seth Tribution, exactly. The old Monday night Messiah gimmick wrap it all into one. Anyway. There there's loads of guys and they're sort of just like being generic around the ring. Yeah. There was a there was an element of uh the chimps in two thousand one. You know, when they're just all

They're all around the big uh monoliths. Like like the Putty Patrol. Yeah. Yes, yeah, or Power Rangers Punny Patrol Yeah. Yeah. Digital. And um They they get in the ring and l a bunch of them and they are all running around In in this, you know, quite cringy way. Look what it was, it's the human equivalent of

Here's some cups and there's a ball underneath one of them. That is what they were going for, right? Which one is Seth, which one is Seth? Oh it's this one. And they they're they start to circle like they're this animalistic force and then They're they're sort of leaving the ring as they're running around in a circle, leaving only one person It's Seth Rollins. Triple H has learned over the last couple of years that if you take off a mask, you get a pop.

And that is now that's their new cheat code. How do we get take a mask off? We can now do this with Seth. Every single week and he can get a pop. But it's diminishing. Why isn't the why isn't the pop as loud as it was when we did the same thing last week? Add another masked man in. Mm-hmm. How many are we gonna get in three weeks' time? Well, I think this is just what Seth's new shtick is now. He just gets surrounded by masked men. This is like

This is the pinnacle of the masked man run in WWE angles. You think the pinnacle are involved? They've been doing for the last, you know, tr of the years of Triple H's takeover, he has loved a masked man in a hoodie, that whether it be Solo Sokoa, whether it be Jimmy Uso. It's usually like bloodline related, but now we've moved it into vision related. We've had Austin Theory do it. Now we can have Seth Rollins do it. And I think this is the pinnacle of it. This is now what will probably be

the death knell of the masked man because it's got it's now at parody points. Yeah. In ten years' time someone will do a masked gimmick and everyone will be like, this is so fresh because this has killed it for the next ten years. Um so the the the the crux of the thing is they did a fun dance. Um but what Pierce said was, Look, you this this can't go on Let's not bury the lead here. Adam Pierce no sold this. Adam Pierce said, and I quote, I didn't need any of that

Yeah. Did he say that a direct quote, they did their wacky little dance and they did their little circle jerk thing and left. Seth took off his mask and Adam Pierce said, as flatly as possible I didn't need it. Didn't need any of that. They didn't really leave the arena, they they actually stood in front of the commentary desk. And it's like, honestly there's twenty guys, I think. So, actually before we go on with the rest of the segment,'cause it's just normal

Every uh intro to Raw you've ever seen, blah blah vision interrupt, blah blah LA Knights here, blah blah Uso's yeet. What's the point? Not not what's the point, because obviously we know the point is to look cool, a mission accomplished. Ha ha ha. But what's what's the K Fabe reasoning for Seth Rollins to have twenty guys under masks? Because you never know where he's gonna come next. Tile of his sex too. But surprise. But what what about in this In this segment of the To fool

And and to show how much con how little control Pierce has over Seth Rollins. Because Pierce's promo I am now trying to come up with this off the top of my head. Pierce's promo was You're not medically cleared. You're not allowed to get involved in vision activity. I think they're a pain in the ass, but you cannot get involved in this. And Seth's little crony group is to show you have no control over me, Adam Pierce, because

I disappeared. Now I'm over here. Exactly. That's what he should have done. He should have gone like that. There should have been an an an a cup thing, and Pierce is like uh uh and he unmasks someone. It's not Seth and Seth pulls up the mask. That actually might have worked. Like if they'd have left and one of them was standing in the ring and then he reveals it and it's not Seth.

So then Pierce is like he's angry'cause I want to speak to Seth. So he goes outside, takes off another mask, it's not Seth. And then eventually Seth reveals himself to be like, You're on the control Like that well I mean look, still would have been late. And I would have still laughed at it, but at least it would have been functional. Yeah, yeah. because this is just style and no substance currently. What you described there

kind of would work in a broken Matt Hardy skit, I think. But what you could have done, um, you do the opening bit, there's the circle thing, and then you've got the one guy standing in the middle, and we're all like, okay, it's Seth, and Pierce is like Come on, quit playing around this is serious pulls off the mask. It's not Seth and then Seth pulls his mask off.

from someone nearby and goes, I'm proven a point pearl. Yeah. There you go. I I am faceless now. This is how I go for the vision because they can't see me anymore. Mm. A a bit of a blindness thing. But he's not done that. You know, I dn I think, you know, what you've laid out there is is the K Fabe reasoning for character and also to to make a statement against the vision.

Uh look, you can you can try and get me, but I will keep coming at you from all these directions, and you won't see me coming. Thing is though I don't think the vision actually do need a lot to be taken care of, because LA Knight and the Usos took care of them pretty easily. I would say before them, because you know, Seth does that. And Logan and Theory come down and like we're your worst case scenario. I was like, Yeah, in terms of booking maybe. Now it's Rybaxel without Heyman. And

And then Seth does his smoke bomb mysterious They play a game and the must men run away. Yeah. And I thought but there's twenty of you. Yeah. There's two of them. What I there isn't the point games. Isn't the point though to just beat up the vision right now? Yeah, it's mind games. And I mean they've never said overtly, Oh, these are people from Seth's training school. It's like they're It's that horrible thing that WWE sometimes do, and and to actually AEW sometimes do as well.

Well they do something that's clearly the thing, but then they don't do the explanation on screen that that is the thing, making it feel like an actually quite messy setup of a story. I don't know if they are supposed or we in Kfab are supposed to think they are from Seth school. So what who are they then? Okay, so Seth's character on screen has not been I also have a training school. That is just something that he has. That's not part of the Seth freaking Rollox character. He just says

Look, I was injured. My whole thing was to to guide the future of this in the street and I backed the wrong people. I backed Bron Breaker, I backed Bronson Reed. And the clean. You two guys joined at some point after I was taken out injured. And I realized I'm going to train The next generation of wrestlers. I've started a school. These are my students. And maybe that promo's coming.

I think it should have come sooner. Nope, nope. You can delay these things. We've got like eight weeks until WrestleMania. Let's you know, we c we can we can parboil this storyline. We don't need to just, you know, overdo it a like straight away. I think it is a poor story. No. Poorly executed. Strongly disagree, this made me laugh a lot. Look, it's weird because you know, we we watch these episodes of Raw. Well I I watched it I finished watching it four hours ago as we're talking.

And then I sit down and I write my review and I'm really doing gut feeling reactions. I've not really seen anyone else's thoughts. And in that, I have a whole bit that starts the review portion where I say, I love goofy wrestling, I love Money in the Bank 2020, I love uh Retribution, I love Splinter Cell Randy Autumn. But something about this was too lame, and I can't find the fun in it.

Give it an hour. I'm I'm in the office. It's gotta be with the right people. I think this is where th this is what it falls down to. I think it now works because you've come into the office and we've all had a laugh about it. Now I find it very funny. If you're doing it on your own and you know, heaven forbid, someone walked in. Yeah. I would rather my wife found me watching porn. Yeah. Than than than found me watching this. Because I I was like cringing on the insider how lame it all was.

But now that uh thankfully no one did walk in on me watching it, I can have a laugh about it and I can have a laugh with my friends. That's what goofy wrestling is is all about. Um, which they probably don't want for a main of an angle. Oh no, they think this is cool. I think they genuinely think that this is a really cool thing.

They wouldn't do goofy wrestling. Otherwise they'd have done angles with El Grande Americano not being able to get to the Exactly. Like caught I thought they were gonna do El Grande Americano caught in liminal space. Just like constantly walking around it, just not being able to like that uh that Windows ninety eight screensaver.

This is a constant moving corridor. Yeah. Or the the this is spinal tap I'm lost backstage kind of thing. Absolutely. That sort of thing. Instead they just said on commentary I know it was cut. Uh how did how did Paul Heyman get to the hospital last week when LA Knight commandeered the vehicle taking him there? LA Knight took him. Oh right. Oh well, badass LA Knight. He just he took him to the hospital'cause he's a good person. Yeah.

But he the the fun of that setup was oh LA Knight's got control of the car, what's he gonna do? Oh, he's gonna take him responsibly to the nearest local medical facility. That that's it. That does you got your you got your pop. You don't need anything else. They got the pop. Okay. But you could have got more pops off the back of the sector setup. Could have been diminishing diminishing return pops. But you can't say that when they've got twenty masked guys out there.

Which is visual proof of diminishing returns. But they think at they think that's cool. And, you know, to the point I made earlier, when Seth took his mask off, it got apart. It got a but it's like a knee jerk reaction. It got a holy S chant. Did it? No, but a bit before when they were all coming in. So it got a pop, it got a reaction. That was before they did the circle run. Ha ha.

I think in their heads, this is cool and it's getting over and it's gonna lead to something wicked awesome at WrestleMania, whether that be Seth versus Brock. Seth versus Logan, neither of which I'm massively into. It feels like it's both the worst option for Logan Paul and for Brock Lesnar. And it's also the worst option for Seth Rollins as well. Actually, no, no, I think LA Knight's the worst option for Brock Lesnar.

Um but it's like it's not it's not exciting, it's not like making me hyped for WrestleMania. But what it is doing is making me love. And I feel like sometimes that has been missing. Yeah. And if we didn't get a great segment to end this episode I think we'd be more angry at this opening segment. But overall it was nice to have a bit of nafness. It's it's where is the naff? I will say it is the most I have joined a Seth Rollins segment since he turned heel at WrestleMania.

Here's a bit of uh fantasy booking maybe. Oh no, the the Seth stuff with Cody was really good. Oh, that's true. Actually, yeah, you know that was good. Um so, they're doing this stuff, they just stick with the masked army gimmick thing and it's all lame. And then it's like two weeks out from Mania, they're standing tall again. Oh, the Moscow's and Seth, you know, beats up. Feary and Logan pull the masked guys stand tall, and then one of the masked guys takes off his mask.

Returning Brombreaker. Rad. And then he spears Seth and he destroys the entire masked army. That sounds pretty great to me. Love that. If if Bronn can be back in time, that's awesome. And that's kind of rad. And I really I think that'll be a really cool angle. Um, and it also is what it's it's needing, because when Logan and Theory came out.

You know, we made fun of them last week because they haven't got Bronson or Bronn anymore. Now they haven't got Paul Heyman. Crikey, it's beepop and rocksteady without Shredder. I feel like Heyman has Consciously removed himself from the

I thought can you write me out, guys? I'm not hanging out with these two. But he can't be on the show next week in part as part of the Brock stuff because he's been written off the screen indefinitely. Which means Brock's not got an an angle or a manager either. Mm. Which he can do. Brock will just stand in the ring, who's coming out, Danhaus and Squash. Yeah, but surely Paul Lehman's a big part of the Brock presentation of coming out to be like, you know, my client, Brock Lesnar. Oh yeah.

But y so you but you think that he has sacrificed that because he just does not want to be part of this vision stuff. Yeah, I think he's he's well aware, because he's a very smart guy, that the Vision Act is totally negated right now, and him even being attached to it is making him less less of a main of an act.

I don't know, he s he really likes Austin theory by all accounts then. To an extent. Like he's been a real like you know, not to use the word, an advocate for Austin Theory and him getting a push behind the scenes. So maybe y he would want to be on screen with them again and I think he probably also thinks that Logan Paul is a genuine draw. I think that's sort of been proven the opposite at this point. I think I think over time his his appeal has really diminished.

What really stumps me no, it doesn't stump me because I get why they're doing it, but I feel like you've got to go with the grain here. Logan and theory are so clearly not the vision. They weren't part of the original lineup, there's no crossover with Seth. Yet they're walking around claiming that they're a threatening force. And they're outnumbered. Um Usos, LA Knights, Seth Rollins, 20 Guys Under Masks.

Why not just go with that? Why not have a bit backstage where Logan and Theory are like, Oh man, what are we even doing? And that and then you can sort of that's your story now. But because they're walking around With Bravado, which fair enough, you know, they're heals, they can do that. But not to have any other character on screen address that.

We didn't get on commentary going, Well this this act like what are they now? Me as a viewer, I can clearly tell that in both real life and Kfabe. But that's not the story though, is it? The story isn't they suck. No the story is I'm not saying the story is they suck. The story is

There's only two of them. But that's not the story either. No, but that should be the story. Because of what's happened in real life as hands been forced. So go with the grain. But I think by doing that it does say that they suck. I think if you go down that route of just like they've lost Bronbreaker, they've lost Bronsomerie, they've lost Paul Heyman, what you're effectively saying is they've lost all their star power, and now it's just two lads, that is gonna make them feel less of that.

Well the this will be worse for them, I guarantee you. Oh we've got to be a little bit more than doing this kind of push. But if they acknowledge it, pivot, go with the grain, like I said, you can start I don't know what that looks like, but creatively, you've got these restraints. Don't work against them, work within them. I think what we're looking at here is Seth versus Brock or Seth versus Bron. And Logan in theory versus the Usos for the tag titles at WrestleMania.

And so what you don't want to do is make Austin Thiri and Logan Paul look like the also rans of the vision. You need to make them feel like they are the vision and they are the future of this company. In which case, you do need to present them as a serious threat. Well, shall we get on with the rest of the show? I've gotten angry again about this segment. But not about the not about the running.

The running I stand by. The circle jerk stuff was tremendous. Uh the Usos join LA Knight to beat down the vision totally easily. They run it back. And then they go backstage afterwards. I really given sorry, I don't want to cut you off there. Given what we get in the main event angle, I would I would I would not have done this. Uh yeah, because the last Punk says, Roman, your dad's dead. And the next thing we see from the Usos is

Run it back. And then they were going to go home. It's the only reason they stay is because Jackie Redmond reminds them of what Punk said last week. Like I I actually got angry about this. Because this, to me, is terrible storytelling. This is Terrible booking, this is terrible production. Yeah. Your whole big closing angle is super serious Usos who are angry at CM Punk for what he said last week, which is great. That is exactly what you should be doing.

So then don't have them be goofy run it back yeet man Usos at the opening of the show having fun beating up the vision, because those two things do not correlate. Two years ago, there is no way this segment plays the way it played out on this episode. What you would have is LA Knight would be beating up the vision, then the Usos would run down, beat up the vision almost too much, they grab a mic, And they call out CM Punk. Yeah. Setting up the main event bit. We'll see you then.

And because what Triple H used to do and it was really, really good, all the main event scenes seemed connected and they would overlap in segments and it it all fed into each other, but this is it's like play pause on certain storylines and characters depending on what bit they're in. The problem when you become an entrance company is you have to do entrances and run and particularly with J Uso you have set a standard now of running that entrance back.

And that is what they believe the crowd are paying for. They are paying for to be part of the yeet process. And so if you don't give them that yeet, and actually technically we saw this last year. When they didn't do the yeet entrance when we saw them at the O2, people were a little bit annoyed that they didn't get to be part of that entrance.

So they now have to give you that every single week. Otherwise you as a fan are not getting your money's worth and and big air quotes, yeah, are not getting your money's worth. So you have to do this. Then you have to go back to what you actually want to do, which is also do some serious stuff. Do it in the dark match.

Uh then we got the women's gauntlet match, which went forty plus minutes in the end. Uh this was to decide the number one contender for AJ Lee's Intercontinental title. I guess we'll go through in the stages. So started off with Lyra Valkyrie versus the O Sky. Um book ended really by the best wrestling,'cause this was really good. Uh and then Asker Bailey in the in the main event part of the Gauntlet, which was also good.

EO one clean with a moon salt. Next out is Raquel Rodriguez. The crowd died the second that wrestling started on their show. Yeah. As good as the Lyra EO stuff was. They did not care about the wrestling. Uh maybe they they would when Eo did a comeback bit, but then nothing. Raquel comes out, different style of match, power versus agility. Raquel's pounce was cool. Yeah.

Um Liv Morgan shows up, distracts Skye, but Stephanie Vicare ran down to brawl with Liv and that distraction let EO roll up Raquel. Yeah. So the crowd, despite not caring about wrestling, they're getting into Eo right now. Good work. But then Raquel, angry, beat up Eo. And she beat her up so much that Ivy Nile could run out next and just make the pin.

And the crowd died at that and was not helped by the next match, which was Ivy Nile versus Bailey. Yeah. Which they did not care about and went on way too long. And the only person to blame in this Are the people in charge who haven't had Ivy Nile on TV for so long and have had given the audience no reason to care about her having a long match with Bailey? Yeah. I don't know why this isn't Kyrie Sane. Why wh why isn't it just Eo?

Well because why why didn't EO just quickly eliminate'cause I I thought the reason Ivy Nile is in this match is to give someone a quick elimination. The the EO the the EO booking I think is good. You can't tell the story of last the entire gauntlet every time. I thought it was really cute the way they had the the quick pin afterwards. But make that Kyrie, because then Kyrie works over Bailey.

And then Bailey's got a story going in to face Asuka. I completely take your point. My thing was you can have EO eliminate, get a shock roll up win. And get the crowd into it. Then you got the face off between Bailey and EO Sky, former damage control buddies, former WrestleMania women's title man. But the the damage uh to EO over time is not you know, it's taken a toll on it and Bailey gets the win in a heart fought ba uh you know um back and forth match, then that leads into Bailey versus Aska.

I think you could have kept the crowd going at that point throughout the rest of the match. Agreed to disagree. I think they're both valid, but I I think they were going for two separate stories and I think that's quite a small idea. Um But yeah, then we got the the Bailey Ivy match was just nothing because also everyone knows Ivy Nile's not winning.

Yes. So why is it going on for so long? They know Asker's the last entrance. But it also made Bailey look like a div. Yeah. Because she came down to the ring and rather than going for a match, she just looked at your sky was like, ooh. Yeah. And that allowed I Ivan Art so while that is the story they told of then Bailey has to fire from underneath, I don't think it was a good story. Yeah,'cause they're both totally fresh.

Um but Bailey wins. She advances to take on Asuka. This then it got good again. Asuka's coming down doing her entrance. Bailey's suicide dive right at the start. Good strategy because she is coming from a match behind. Um Michael Cole in the ad break. I didn't skip all of them. They they got me. They've got to fix this by the way. I am st so if you're not aware A lot of people are reporting this that the ad breaks are no longer cut out for on-demand watchers, so people who don't watch it live.

So before, if we watched Raw on Demand, it would just go from segment Dip to black, come back, and the ad break segment would be skipped. But now we get all the stuff in the match. that happens in the ad break, all the promos that run, all the little special interviews in the box in the arena. I I think they're doing it to boost watch metric. I don't think it's a technical fault. Yeah. Do you know what you're probably right?

But the problem with it is as a viewer like'cause this is not being done for me then, this is being done for Netflix, this is being done for WWE.'Cause me as a viewer, what I am being shown is stuff that is there for the live audience But it's not actually good. Yeah. Because it can't be good because not everyone is going to see it later on.

Yeah. But but actually now they are seeing it later on. Yeah. Oh no, I agree. But that that's WWE's MO. Yeah. That they are doing everything they can to improve metrics and attendance and viewership numbers and gates, even though it harms the product because I mean I'm starting to believe they're trying to sell it. I think they're sp I think they're building it up to sell. Well sell W is CK. Yeah. I just d I don't there's n there's no reason to harm the actual product so much.

And and sacrifice medium long term stuff for short term unless you're trying to spin it up to sell it. I dunno I don't know, man. I'm not sure I'll buy into that just yet. It's it's just a it's just it's just speculation, just a theory, but Look, they are d you know, ruthless business people you have. They have not bought this to be I mean, I they bought it to be a long term investment, but they've not bought it as a passion.

They've not they've not bought it to have like I am passionate about WW and I want it to be a success. They have bought it because it is a brand that can make money. If that brand then stops making money or there is less interest within that brand, then it totally makes sense for a company to be like, oh, I'll just sell it and I haven't bought it because I like it. I'm bored because it made me money.

Or you you uh tell buyers a story that it's gone up this year, this year, this year, this year, even though we can tell you that that isn't true when you dig into certain bits. then it rapidly inflates the worst. Uh package it with UFC. What Larry Ellison, why wouldn't he just buy um for his kid? F for it all?'Cause then Paramount's biggest expense is that UFC deal. Get WWE as well, um, and you license that to Netflix, you get the money.

I Endeavour, their business is making deals. They are a business based on an agency. Their their business isn't product. So to think they're there to run products I don't think that's actually in their DMA. Yeah. They're there to build stuff up to do deals. Well he said this about Mark Shapiro, who feel like is, you know, was become the patron state of this podcast the amount of times we we talk about it, and talk about that interview he did where he said

Vince McMahon's biggest problem was he sold tickets to families. And we said that is a dense thing to say because you're not looking at the future there. But realistically, the re and we said this at the time, he's not looking at the future. He's looking at the now because the idea is to make as much money now and then you as a person might just like I'm just gonna go off to another company and make some money elsewhere.

But then it does actually track to just make as much money now than just sell it on for more than you bought it for. As I said, like they're not like TKO, Endeavour are not passionate about WWE. They are not passionate about the world of professional wrestling. I don't think they care, they don't like it. They're just doing it because it makes them money. Yeah. Um where where were we? Uh Bailey Winds. Good finish.

Yeah, good finish. Uh there was what was it? Lyra of Valkyria stopped Kyrie Sane from interfering. So you said Michael Cole said something during the ad breaks. Oh yes, and then we got into the whole ad break bit. Yeah. Uh yeah, so Cole said Asuka has never been in the gauntlet match in WWE. Huh. So I just would you look at that? Also never won at WrestleMania. The finish was very similar to the EOSky Raquel Rodriguez portion. I wouldn't have doubled it up that closely.

Um I I felt like we hardly got any Asker Bailey. Like with the ad break and stuff, it was only five, seven minutes. not enough time to actually get into the action. But whatever, it's it's a long, long, boring way to get to AJ Lee versus Bailey, which will be next week for the IC title. Which is a fun little stepping stone before we get to Becky versus AJ at WrestleMania.

Uh, we got a recap of Punk vs. Reigns. Maxine Dupree attacked Natalia during her promo in the break. I forgot that was still going on. That would have been a good little bit to put in the gauntlet match as just a little quick spot. Do you know what? Now that you've said that, yeah.

Uh, Danhausen is talking to Gable Americano backstage. He wants to try on Grande's mask, and Gable says, I've got no tiempo for this. Which is time. And then he says something like Vamamos. Vamamos. I mean Vamos. And Vanhausen says he doesn't know what that means, but because you don't want to work with me, I curse you.

And then he disappeared. And that then led into Penta it was supposed to be Penta versus uh original El Grande Americano, but the new El Grande Americano came out instead. And the commentators was like, What's going on? Like that's not

uh El Grande Americano, that's the new El Grande Americano. And then we don't get any real follow up to that. The audience don't get any follow-ups to that. We at home just get told like Michael Cole.

I get the impression that Michael Cole does not like this Danhausen thing. Oh my god, yes. Yeah. Because Corey Graves is the only one being like, I've told he's cursed him. He's like, Where's El Grande Americano? Why is he not coming out here? And it was like, because he's been cursed, Michael Cole. He can't I've told you before, he's been cursed, he can't come out. We'll get on to Michael Cole and Danhausen in an ad break later on.

Uh I foolishly watched so much of these outbreaks. See, it does work. Not me, bud. Um but So yeah, so Penta take Penta cuts a great promo before this match. His first I C title defense. He thanks family, friends, my company. all the fans out there, thank you to my son for real passion. It felt like he was just you know, coming up um w when he was doing the promo.

And then he started talking in Mexican, sorry, Spanish, and it was even better. Yeah. And I thought, this is what we had in that debut month. Remember, he cut a promo that reportedly went too long. Yeah. Um, in like his second week. And but it was like it was so fiery and intense. But where has that been for a whole year? What WWE are very good at doing is making you forget wasted time.

They're not that good'cause I remember. I think they I think they're better than you give them credit for.'Cause the amount of people who said to me, Man, Dom had a great run with our IC belt, he did nothing with that belt. But they make you forget that. And I think they're very good at making you forget that they have done nothing because they're very good at presenting something that is good that then tells you like how great it has been.

Like I think you can watch this promo and it could like uh his year-long journey of coming into WWE and then one year later, he's won the IC title. That is a story you can tell. Within his first year, he won the IC title. ignoring that he was did nothing and they dropped the ball with him and I think they squandered a lot of that early potential and a lot of that early momentum that he had.

But now we can just whoop restart that fire and it's like that one year of nothing ever happened. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're right. Um this and the Judgment Day breakup uh you know, as as Good as they are that they're happening. I j I I'm like, it's taken so long to get here. Yeah. This is wasted time. That j we'll get to that judgment day one, but that is a classic example of that it's not a long-term story, it is a story that has taken a long time to tell.

Um the match never really got over with the crowd here, they were pretty dead. Springball Mexican destroyed to retain. It's fine. It was a good match. But you know, I've I've watched Penta and Kaiser have lots of matches. Yes.

Uh Vicare Stephanie Vicare then cut a pre tape promo in Spanish with subtitles She's taking the motivation now that Liv could be great, but she chooses to interfere and cheat. Stephanie, meanwhile, I've written here invented South American wrestling. I can't remember what she said. Worst of that of the five. And it cuts back to live. I thought of you the second this happened. I knew exactly what you were gonna say. Because you and I just talked about this.

On a WrestleTalk Extra about a Monday Night Raw episode from two thousand one. Well look look, this it's a thing, it doesn't really matter, it's like bouncing off the Irish whip rope. Like it's just a part of the lore and the way the wrestling universe functions as a TV program. But Liv was watching that Stephanie Vacare promo and then it cut to Liv watching something on a screen.

And then then we have a scene in the clubhouse. So it's like, okay, she's watching the live feed of Raw. Then surely in this room right now Is what's happening in the room right now because that's what's currently on Raw? Yeah. We so we watched an episode of Raw from two thousand and one where Jericho is cutting a promo about Stephanie McMahon. And then the next scene is Stephanie McMahon watching that promo on T V.

And going like I hate him, I hate him. And your point was, surely on the screen now are them. So it's Stephanie saying I hate him, I hate him. Yeah. In a weird infinite regressive picture. Yes. But it's the Muppet Show. Yeah. It's it's a it's a show about a wrestling show. Anyway, it doesn't matter. What does matter is Dom came in and he said I've got some things to get off my chest.

I want to speak to Finn. And they all go down to the ring. Now, before we get to that bit, Danhausen in the ad break comes down to the ring. Did you see this bit?

I I could tell we were in ad break, so I that's uh skipping. Uh and he thanks the fanhousens and he starts throwing t shirts out into the crowd. Um was funny'cause he had like a wad of maybe seven and he just threw them all to one person. I d I don't actually think he was supposed to do that. Um but Michael Cole for the whole time. is crapping on it. So I yeah, so this bit I haven't seen.

This this sounds like Michael Cole, heel Michael Cole in early twenty tens where Vince is telling him crap on Daniel Bryan. Right Or or like the the broker Matt Hardy, yeah I'm so sorry for what we're about to show you. But with with the broken Matt Hardy bit, it's more like resigned, uh, here it is. This was like

This guy's crap. We didn't say that, but the it's the tone of voice. Yeah. I it it really made me it gave me the ick a bit on Michael Cole. Like I I've really come to like him since the Triple H reign started. Um, but this this was a glimpse of old bad Michael Cole, and he hasn't got the excuse that Vince is in his ear. Yeah, I d I well I said this when he debuted, and then I I got the impression when during the Gable uh sorry, the Kaiser Pentaman.

I just got the impression that Michael Cole didn't like him. I might have to go back and watch this um this ad break to sort of like see it more within context. But I just got it from those those two little bits. I d I don't think he likes the gimmick. I think he thinks it's silly.

Judgment Day are all down in the ring sub uh well not all of them'cause Roxanne's injured. Oh yeah, she is part of that group, isn't she? Uh J D and Finn weren't there. But Finn says, I want a rematch for the IC title. Uh well you said no, no,'cause Dom's not the IC champion. Dom said, I hope you've got me a rematch for the IC title. What did I say? You said Finn wants to get a rematch. Oh, of course. Finn wants a rematch. I meant Dom.

And he said, and we all know who f whose fault it is that I lost it. He calls out Bala. Bala comes down with J D. I must say I thought everyone showed real good passion here. Yeah, uh this angle would have been great ten months ago. Uh, Finn says if Tom wants to be the greatest Mysterio of all time, he needs to fight his own battles. Which is weirdly similar to the Live Stephanie feud.

I I think we might get a version of Finn and Stephanie versus Liv and Dom. Oh, 100%, yeah. And then Finn says That's got backlash written all over. Yeah, yeah. I'm starting to realize that your dad might have been right. Maybe you are a spoiled little prick. Dom uh I think Finn strikes Dom first or whatever. Uh Dom pushed him and then uh Finn hit the Pele kick. And oh yeah, that was right.

And then Judgment Day beat up Finn. Yeah. Like it was uh JD McDonough was the one who kind of really instigated this because like the you know, Raquel and Liv are like, oh no, what's going on? And uh Bala hit the sling blade on Dom. And then as he was setting up to do the shotgun drop kick,

JD McDonough laid him out and then all of Judgment Day beat down Finn. And you know, Michael Cole, I just thought Cole was quite good on this when he was like, I don't like Finn Balor. Like I haven't liked Finn Balor for a while, but this is this is uncalled for. This is this is a a bad action by by the judge. I thought and like and then Dom gets the boot and he uh but the hammer and he puts the hammer in his boot to hit the six one nine. I really thought it was a good angle.

It's just come far too late in this story. Like Finn was like, I you know, you've been in this group for two years and I'm like, It's been longer than that though, hasn't it? Like It's it's almost four years since Don joined. Four years to get to this point. And I think this Finn Dom thing should have been paid off by we should have had this match at SummerSlam for the ICE title. And yet here we are, months and months later, now the belt's not even here.

I feel like we've just been doing nothing and now that we're heading into WrestleMania, we need to spark this up again. Yeah. I I think it's been a really badly told story. So one good angle cannot save this. I am not into this, but I it is a good angle. Yeah, I mean it is a good angle. Yeah, I get um everything you said, plus

I don't think it's good enough. No. Yeah, yeah, because it's just a beatdown angle. It's a beat down angle. And this is this is what you had? Is this really what'cause surely you've been in a faction for four years. Surely you're all coming up with, oh and when we eventually split up, we'll do this or this or this. And this is the one we get, which is like every single other beatdown angle. And the thing that led to it wasn't this.

really good bubbling story over six months. It was oh yeah, we also just rushed Dom losing the I C title in an impromptu not an impromptu match, but a match that was only announced that week. On top of that How did Damien Priest get kicked out of this group?

Oh, he realised he was becoming a baby face, they kicked him out. How did Rhea get kicked oh she realised she was becoming a baby face, they kicked her out. Had a Finn get kick he realised it was becoming a baby face, they kicked him out. Like it's the same deal yeah with the three people who've been kicked out of the screen. But apart from Edge is probably the only one who

got kicked out a different way. Um remember he started this group? It was it was his fa it's his faction. Um it's I d I this is a good angle, but to your point, it is not big enough. This angle would have been the exact same angle ten months ago.

I don't know about you, but when I saw Javon Evans talking to Adam Pierce backstage, I thought, Oh, ad break Now you see, my tr my thinking is if it's backstage it's not an ad break. If it's on the balcony or it's on the stage, that's an ad break. Yeah, you're right. Um anyway, Kofi Kingston walks in with Grayson Waller and

Ask Walla can I talk to Javon alone? And he effectively says, You've got dreams, but you don't have to do that alone. You don't have the right team. Hmm. I mean it's nice to just run that match back again, I guess. I wouldn't be against Kofi and Javon.

Like what else is there? I'm trying to hang on to straws and clutches. That's actually a good point. What else is there? What they haven't got anything for Javon. They haven't got anything for the new day. And like this New Day heel turn has amounted to Naute. Yeah. So you may as well just abandon it.

Uh Jackie spoke to Bi Bailey backstage. Bailey's super happy she's facing AJ Lee next week. Oba Femi took on Rusev. Crack, you wanna talk about building something up for weeks on end to then do nothing? Oba won quickly.

Just do this in the first week. This would have been the same if you'd have done this with no angles. This is why I mean I don't love SmackDown. I think SmackDown's getting overpraise. But at least they're just doing things. It's gonna got three hours, aren't they? He's just doing squash matches there. You don't need to have a four week build for a squash match. If if anything, SmackDown are just like, Yep, let's do it now, let's do it now. Yeah.

Let's have a championship match on Friday. Whereas Raw, it's like we'll tease it and then maybe in four weeks time we'll announce it and then then three weeks after that will be the actual match. Uh tedious. This it w this was a tedious build. for a match that had zero heat and did not for Obafemi did even worse for Rusev. I'm sure that grass is way greener than than he it's it's just as green as he expected it to be.

Uh next week we got the rundown, so Lesnar is back with his open challenge thing. He'll be on every episode of RAW up until Mania now. AJ Lee versus Bailey, that'll be fun. Americano versus Americano. Yeah, and right? That surely is gonna end in a schmoll. Yeah, good and you build to a whatever match uh uh maybe a six man, a trios match and El Grande gets

I don't know. No, that you know you build that for SummerSlam. I think you've done Mask versus Mask at WrestleMania. I think next week ends in a schmaz and the challenge is laid out, mask versus mask at WrestleMania. But again, it's this match has been built for a year almost.

And they've just announced this bit. I'm like, but you've been telling the story for three weeks. Why does this feel like it's come out of nowhere? Yeah, why was there no challenge from either one of them for a match? You you literally had Kaiser steel Gable's match earlier. Mm-hmm. Why does that not result in an in a segment backstage or in front of the crowd that sets up this match? Yeah. Rea a real waste. Uh and then Roman Reigns will appear too.

He's going to show next week then. Yeah, yeah. He'll likely be answering CM Punk's promo. Great pro I thought this segment was

Awesome. Yeah. Seventeen minutes left of the show. Again, about how they're very good at making you forget things. It was so good it did make me forget. But they were doing the yeet stuff earlier in the show. Yeah. Um, by the time Punk did his entrance and we had the outbreak, there were only twelve minutes left for this, which is an appropriate amount of time for the amount of fun stuff that happened. So the crowd are way more alive because they like

promos. A star is here. And a star is here. Punk got them even more warmed up by saying, Seahawks. Your local sports team. It was such a lazy sports team pop. Yeah. He didn't even build up to it, he just went How about then Seahawks, eh? Americans though are the easiest people in the world because then it breaks down to a channel of Seahawks. The easiest people to lead.

Um and now you s he's sort of saying I thought more people would dislike me because, you know, I mentioned Roman's dead dad last week. Uh Punk vowed to force Reigns to respect him. Roman shunned his responsibilities because he didn't defend the title as much, whereas Punk levels the company up. Yeah, I I really don't think we should be bringing up the fact that this belt only exists because Roman couldn't be beaten. Um but then he says, but I regret lowering myself to Reigns' level.

B which is talking about the dead dad line. And I fully believe He was about to apologize for saying it. That's what we talked about in last week's show. He was gotten to in that segment, and he let his emotions get the better of him. And he's now had a week to reflect upon that, so he came out here humbly to say sorry. But the Usos as set up earlier, not very well as you pointed out. Come down instead. They confront him. Yeah. Jay was

fired up. He was so angry and I was like, Where was this earlier when Jackie said, Have you got anything to say to CM Punk? And he was like, No, I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home, actually I'll go back to the hotel. And Jimmy was like uh maybe we should go and say something. And Joe and Joe's like, oh yeah, all right then. Then he comes out, all piss and vinegar. I mean, you're the worst actor in the world. Yes. With with you know, in all fairness, terrible booking around you.

It's not all his fault. I really feel like Jimmy has revealed himself as the best uso. Yeah, it turns out he's Sean and but Marti Ginetti keeps getting pushed. Yeah. So Jimmy just Really, really clearly outlines like Jay, you know, Jay's pacing around. It's a good dynamic'cause they're so visually contrasting, yet look exactly the same. And he says, Look, this isn't because of rains.

It's because of respect. You talk about having the voice of the voiceless and and and that stuff, but you mentioned our late uncle, who has no voice. And just again, just outline Your beef with Roman, totally get that. But you said this thing, it's affected us. Apologize out of respect. You were out of line.

And Punk agrees with them, which is the tragedy here. I feel like a lot of people have caught strays in the Roman Punk feud. You know, remember when they just buried SmackDown, Drew, and the belt over there? Yeah. Well that worked out well for them, didn't it? Now Cody's the champion again. And it it's similar here, like this this punk rains feud is so intense.

They're making enemies everywhere. Uh and Punk told this great story about how he respects Sika, but he was closer to Ather, who's uh well Seeker's brother. and how he went to wrestle for him as a a young wrestler, didn't really get paid, but he got gas money. Um he practically babysat Lance and Hawaii.

He respects the Anawai family, the Anawai family respect him, apart from that one son of a bitch, and then he just got distracted by cutting a promo on Roman again. Yeah. And is there wonderful thing of I'm asking you to apologize. No, we just want you to say sorry. And Punk got into his own head of being like, But here's why I said what I had to say about it. It is about respect. And he doesn't respect me.

Yeah, lesson to everybody. If you're genuinely sorry about something and feel like you should apologise Just say I'm sorry. Never s never explain. Yeah,'cause this Do do the explanation on another day. It's but in that moment It's I'm sorry but And Punk essentially said that. He Jay Jay again said, It's not about Roman, it's about you saying you're sorry, and Punk said, I am sorry. I'm sorry Roman never apologized for all all his actions as champion. Which is true. We've said that before.

He's sorry Roman never apologized for disrespecting his mentor, Dusty Rhodes, for calling him irrelevant. Again, ch that's almost exactly the same thing. Sorry Roman has tricked his family and friends that he gives a damn about any of you. Yeah. He's gaslit everyone. He called him he called him a plastic politician. I I thought this was a good thing.

A superb promo from Punk. I thought it was superb performance from Punk as well, because I think he is selling this character of CM Punk really, really well. I thought the Usos played their part perfectly. Jimmy in particular was great.

I thought that Jay was really great as well as fired up. The problem with Jay, the only reason Jay's bit doesn't work is because of what he did earlier in the show. So part of that is on him because he's come, you know, quite bad at this, but also it's partly on the the show as well because of how they present it. But if you'd have just had Jay being right hand man Jay from the get go in this episode, this would have felt way more impactful for him.

I thought overall though, like it just taking this in isolation as a follow on from last week's segment I thought it was awesome and I cannot wait for to see what happens with next week when Roman comes back onto the show. Yeah, we said last week, well, where does this go from here? Because they went nuclear with the dead dad line.

um what a follow up. What a follow up. It's a great follow up. Not something I expected, uh, but they've came back with something that makes total sense. It's surprising. And my God it's well written. Like if you put this dialogue down on paper That's no notes. You can film that as a movie. No. And said this is this is pure screenplay. It's also and I think this is a bit of a testament, um a damning end diamond of the USOs.

They now that they're back in bloodline stuff, they do feel cool again. They do feel like they're relevant. Yeah, they've got characters. Yeah. Because remember when they were having the whole little Roman or you Oh yeah. Um and at the end, because Punk did not apologize again, Jimmy, who has proven himself as a bloodline character who will just take no nonsense sometimes. He was the first son of Roman. He Dax Punk like Dax Punk.

I think that was a stiff, yeah, legit punch. It's because as well again, like it's the respect thing. Punk crossed the line again. Cross the line. Because he disrespected the Usos. He didn't refer to them as the tag team champions, he didn't refer to them as his friends. He referred to them as Roman's young boys.

Like, oh once again I'm having to deal with Roman young boys. He crossed that line and this whole thing about respect, Punk showed them no respect either. Yeah, and that they were friends. They were friends and that's all because Punk's w they Punk got got into.

Oh my god, is there an analogy with the AW Brawl Out like build? Yeah. They're kind of taking parts of that and making a really compelling wrestling storyline. Do do you think uh Phil's aware of that? No. He was the guy who said in a promo last week that he doesn't let podcast comments get to him.

And I think he sincerely meant that. Uh I I thought it was a fantastic segment. It ended the show on a downer but in a kind of like Empire Strikes Back way. Brilliant way. Which was really good. Because the crowd were silent. But not silent like they were for watching Ivy Nile wrestle. They were silent in a oh. What does who who should we cheer for? This is morally complex. I really do not think it is any coincidence.

that all of Roman's segments or segments that are involving Roman Reigns that are really done by Roman Reigns and Paul Heyman are sometimes the best things that are on this show. And Punk. And and Punk as well,'cause I think Punk's then part of this. Yeah. Um and that's the show. Overall I gave it a core, so four out of five. Uh that is strong. Well, I like the ending so much.

I wa it was on it was on the edge, but I've not got percentages anymore. So It's on the Copeland. It's either Average or Core. See I I would have probably said an Average show. High Average though. Yeah, high Average. For that one segment alone,'cause everything else was broadly fine. I th well, you know, the opening segment was hilarious.

Um the Gauntlet match was good. Functional. Functional. Uh I also think it highlights I I said this on last week's show, I took us a bit of heat for it, that I don't think this company really do care about it. Or don't like they see they think that Eosky is popular, but do not see her as a star. And I think that's the the difference there. Um,'cause I don't think she was that she was not the central focus of that match. She was a function to get Sebae.

I thought that everything else on the show was just fine. I thought the judgment angle was good, but it's ten months too late. And then the closing segment was awesome. Interestingly though, in that punk promo I I wanted to have this as a a maybe a bigger talking point, if you don't mind. But Brolic Brendan Cole here said with back to back mentions of Jericho, I'm starting to feel like he is gonna come out at Mania and cost punk the belt.

Huh. So last week he said the list. He said the list. On this week he said I sat under the learning tree of Affer and C. Oh really? I missed that. And When Punk was coming into AEW, they did a lot of that of wrestlers just saying punk lines. Mm-hmm. That we as fans there'd be like, ah, they're talking about CM Punk there. He is the reports are out, he is gonna be coming in. It just being back to back weeks. Now the learning tree is you could probably say that's like

It's not a slip of the tongue, but it is also just wrestling parlance, so maybe that's you know, just you're gonna be reaching at clutching at straws there and stuff. Look I this this was a very well thought out promo. And that was gonna be my counter to it is Every line in here, and I think a lot of what Punk does within his promos is thought out, and he doesn't say things flippantly or like say things that could be construed another way.

And last week saying you're on the list or you just made the list is such a pointed Jericho thing. Like that is not like the learning tree that's just resting parlance. That is a Jericho gimmick. Well when he comes out in a scarf next week. What do you think? Yeah, I think it's definitely teasing something. Um I d I d

Don't know and don't care though. You know? Interesting. Oh, so you think it's like'cause they teased it, you know, when they said made that Stranger Things reference. Now that you've seen all of Stranger Things, can you see what the break the walls down really meant about that final episode? Uh Yeah. But I look apparently Jericho has time added to contract for time missed. He's still on the AEW roster page. Um who knows when he'll be available.

Uh we got some more of your feedback. Patreon.com forward slash wrestletalk if you want to get involved and have your raw thoughts. Brandon here says Punk Uso segment was fun. Jimmy was on point, but trips seems allergic to letting women main event a show. I think that's unfair. He's he's had plenty of main events.

And the women have been very well booked. Yeah. I mean look, uh right now the men's and women's booking is the same, I would say. It's it's it's bad, it's good, it's it's what it is. The point I think some people are making, because I've seen a few people raise is the main the main event match of this was Oba Femi vs Ru Seven A squash match. If it had been the the argument they give, if it had been a gauntlet match for the IC the men's IC title, it would have been the main event of the show.

I don't I don't think so. But I don't think it would have been either. I think that punk segment would have main event. But I mean the main event match of the show, not the main event segment.

I don't think it matters. Like that was a squash match. It was a segment more than a match. And look, I d I don't think you can look at this episode where there was a forty minute plus match for the women who got the opener, really, if you're gonna use that logic, and the opener is has become almost as important as the main event these days in wrestling.

You y you had what, one, two, three, four you'd technically have five women's matches if you count them individually. Yeah. And I I think it's only because it's off the back of last week not having any women's matches that it's almost like it's People looking for things, I think they were. Pogo is here. Raw was overall good, but what happened to the production value? The cool long one takes, the almost artistic shot.

WWE last year and the year before had some of the best pay per view graphics of all time. And they showed the punk versus Roman graphic for Mania, and it looks like a filter I had on my iPad in twenty twelve. And Roman's arm is like too muscular and it's really veiny. It la that's what I thought. Um the match graphic they had shortly before it though, where it was it's like a zoom out shot and Punk's doing a moving graphic and he's overlaid with a static graphic.

I thought was quite good. But I do agree, I d I just don't I don't think they care. They're not putting the effort into into sort of making it feel like a breathed a breathing, fleshed out universe. Matt, finally Ollie and I get some of that twenty twenty pandemic nostalgia we've been waiting for with the return of retribution led by Seth. His name is Slapjack. His name is Seth Jack.

Sticky Matty J Uso intensely intensity and fire from that promo really reminded me why I hate the new character so much. He went from captivating me every time he interacted with his family or mainly anyone to just being the yeet guy. It's so frustrating see how good seeing how good he can be.

Sure CM Punk talked about a dead relative, which would make most people angry, but man, Jay being a hothead that runs his mouth and Jimmy being the silent, intimidating one in the back, I need that again, great sex. Yeah. Rob here said I'm over hot head Jay, Big Jim calling out Phil out as a highlight, but watching him uh punching punk made the segment. But twice the tag team champions came out without their belts. What does that say about the title?

They're just th th those tag titles are not a focus, which is bizarre because they're in a tag title like they're in a tag team feud right now with Logan and Theory. I guess they are. But I wouldn't say I mean I'm I'm only guessing that. But I mean they're they're brawling every week with them. But that's not over the tag team title. They're in a tag team fuse. They are just brawling with two guys. Th they are a tag there are two tag teams. One team

are the tag team champions. They are interacting on a weekly basis. Why is it not for the titles? That's what I'm saying. I and my argument to that is they are only two guys because everyone else is hurt. If they w if there were no other else was hurt, if Bronson Reed was still here, there'd be a third guy there, and it wouldn't be a tag team feud anymore.

Yeah, well I d like I d I don't know what to say. They are not feuding over the tag titles currently. Yeah. Well I know they're not feud I'm saying they should be feuding over the tag titles. And lastly, Peter here said the only thing I liked on Raw was Obafemi and Rusev. Also, TKO's big plan to get Mania ticket sales is to bring back the bloodline again. They really have become Vince with their it's not our ticket price.

Bad booking for Vince. That's the pro that's the problem. It's the fans. They're the problem. I know what you mean, but I think this is a Roman punk feud with the context of the bloodline. I don't think they're wheeling out the bloodline carcass. yet. Yet. Um but not on this this episode. I d I agree with you. I don't think this was a hey guys, the bloodliner back. But it this did feel like oh some of that magic of that bloodline drama that we really like.

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