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And Just Like That: Shattered Illusions

Jun 23, 202516 min
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This week, I made a bold declaration: Season 3, Episode 4 of And Just Like That might be one of the best of the entire series—not Sex and the City, but definitely AJLT. In this recap, Sarah and I break down all the reasons why—from the long overdue focus on the core three characters to the emotional wreckage that is Aiden’s family dynamic.

We dive deep into the chaos that is Wyatt—his VR assault on Carrie, the shattered glass moment (literally and metaphorically), and Aiden’s infuriating denial of reality. We talk about what this episode says about parenting, denial, neurodivergence, and how Carrie, for once, actually seems turned off by drama. Was this a soft breakup or just a soft launch into the inevitable end?

We also touch on Miranda’s “wild cunt” moment, Lisa’s barely-there storyline, Seema’s independence era, and Harry’s midlife crisis (with a horny twist). Oh, and let’s not forget Charlotte navigating polyamory and porn downloads.

Honestly? This episode gave us everything: heart, cringe, chaos, and finally—finally—some emotional depth. And I have a theory about who Carrie’s next love interest might be (spoiler: it’s not Aiden).


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With the weight and Just like that recap, Sarah, I have a hot take and I don't know how people are going to feel about that hot. That hot take is, I think, season 3, episode 4 of and just like that one of the best episodes of the series. Not of Sex and the City, I don't. Yeah, I don't know if that's a hot take or not. Why? Why not? I mean, there's just a lot that it did right it. Really, it really did.

It really, really did. And one of the things that it did right was Seema's storyline was short, Lisa's storyline short. They feature them, but they didn't go into great detail on their storylines and they focused on the three main characters and the three main characters were the ones that got the focus. It felt familiar, right? So, and each one of them, I feel as though they had a good storyline this week. There are two callbacks in this episode that I really loved.

I wonder if other people picked up on them. What are they? Last week we talked about we talked about the outfit. Repeat that shirt that Carrie wore again this week. Did you notice the callbacks to the episodes, you know, in the Carrie and Aiden season #1 remember when Carrie was like having an existential breakdown about Aiden because he wanted to stay home with a bucket of chicken in bed? And what's she doing this week? Eating a bucket of chicken in bed, Sima.

That was last week. Oh, that was last week. OK, well, whatever. I'm glad. I'm still glad I mentioned it this week. Here's the other call back. My one of my favorite scenes from Sex in the City is the fight right speed speed stick. Deodorant. Knock yourself out, put on the deodorant, and this week, what's What's Aiden say when Carrie smells bad? Feel free to borrow my speed stick. Right. Oh, I didn't even catch that. I like that.

That's great. Listen, this this was I think the episode that we've been waiting for is in terms of Carrie and Aid, right. For sure, because let's get into it. The episode opens, Carrie is in the guest house at and she hears him outside.

They're painting with the boys and there's Wyatt and there's Homer. Now Homer is very welcoming to Carrie, but to absolutely nobody's surprise, Wyatt is not, and he doesn't hide it. And what I, one of the many things they did right with this was the casting of Wyatt, because not only was he just a great actor, but he looked, he looked like that stereotypical kid in, in high school, the loner who naps, which is very important because what we learn

in this episode is Aiden really should have been taking those five years off. So Carrie goes outside and she sees the boys and she sees Aiden and they're talking and Wyatt's being very distant. And she, you know, she picks up on that and they go in and they have breakfast and her luggage still hasn't arrived. It's in the the old the other car that was tarred that was towed last episode. Yeah, it's not going to arrive right.

So she takes the ATV to this corner store, in the corner store, but sort of this dress shop. Daisy's dress shop. Daisy's dress shop and she goes to the store, she gets the dresses, she comes back and Aiden asks her to spend time with Wyatt. Well, you know, go go fishing with them. Aiden, have you met Carrie? What are you doing asking her to go fishing? Well, she doesn't. Which she does. She doesn't, but she also says, isn't this kind of obvious, right?

What we're doing right, yes. So when this goes awry and doesn't go the way any of them wanted it to, why it suggests they that they go play this virtual game. And Aiden didn't want him to, right? Aiden didn't want to do that. He didn't. He wanted to sort of take the screen time away from him, I guess to have him more plugged in with the family. But they do it. Carrie begs him. She says this is the first time he's made eye contact with me. Listen, just give me a break here.

So they go play this game and it's one of those games where you have the the goggles on and you know it's you, it's virtual reality and they're killing zombies. And now they have these big like plastic fake guns and they're pretending to shoot the zombies. And then at one point, Wyatt wax Carrie in the head with his gun. And it's unclear. Was it intentional? Was it not intentional? I think it's sort of left up to the audience to decide. But Carrie says, ow, And they stop playing.

And why it says, you know, I'm sorry, I was just looking out for my day. You know, those zombies coming from my dad. I was just looking out for my dad. And it's like, it's OK, buddy. It's OK. Carrie's rubbing her head. And he says, what does he say? You know, that's you know. To the effect of like, don't make him feel bad. He says, you know, are you OK? That's not like him.

He's not a violent kid. And she's rubbing her head and she's, you know, kind of still kind of like stinging from it. And Aiden says he goes to take the vest off. And he says, you know, let's not make him feel bad. Let me get this vest off you. And she looks at him because. And she's like, now I feel bad for rubbing my head.

And the look on her face really showed that she's now realizing this is a preview of things to come that this kid, I don't think it was intentional, but Carrie is Carrie. You don't think it? I mean, I, I do think it was intentional. Excuse me? Carrie sees this for the huge warning sign that it is.

Whereas Aiden, he's coddling Wyatt, but I think he's doing that thing that a lot of parents do when their their kid is going through something, whether their kids in pain or sick or whatever it is, where the parents are internalizing it and blaming themselves, especially in a divorced situation where they feel like, well, if I didn't do this and if I didn't do this, he wouldn't be like this. And I can remember my father, it was something to do with my eyesight.

And I was talking about how bad my vision is. And he said he's like, that's that's probably my fault. And I was like, dad, I mean, it's nobody's fault. It just is what it is. But that's how parents are where oh, you've got this thing wrong with me. That's got to be my fault. So they internalize it and they feel guilty. And so Aiden is obviously feeling a lot of stuff, and one of them is denial.

He's in complete denial of the situation of what's really going on with Wyatt. So Kathy, Aiden's wife, comes over. They're having a birthday party for Tater Tot, the baby who was in the little carry all when Carrie was about to have her first date with Burger and he's turning 21. I thought it was odd that they're all sitting around that table drinking, but at the same time and a little bit later when they're talking about the Adderall, because that did get that did get brought up.

I thought it was weird that they were all sitting around drinking because when, when Wyatt jumping ahead. So everything's great. Like, Tate's great, Homer's great. Wyatt is not. And it's not just your typical teenage angst. Like there's something up here. And Kathy thanks Carrie for bringing the Adderall. And later on when they're all, they're all sitting around talking about something, I don't know, they're opening what's his name's gifts, Tate's gifts.

But Carrie and Kathy's new boyfriend? They're on the outside. Right. Oh, I love Bob. I love. Bob, because he was listen, this is a fucking mess. But they're on the outside of the group, right? And so they're on the sitting on the flight of the room. They're not even sitting in the circle. And Bobby, like, you know, it's tough to tough to fit in, but you know, after four years, you know, kindly, I'm kind of there.

Meanwhile, he's not even sitting in the circle with the rest of them while they open Tates gifts. Yeah, I mean, doesn't need to say something more like after four years, like I finally kind of gave up or like accepted my place. He says that. Or maybe that was just my take away from Bob. I don't remember what he said besides the fact that like, yeah, this is difficult. It's a difficult family to, like, get in there, right? Right. Right, as all families are. Right.

And then, of course, he drops the bomb with Carrie that Aiden was opposed to the Adderall. Kathy was for it. And he was saying to Carrie, you know, I just, I don't even know why, why Aiden doesn't want it. You know, it's, it's ridiculous. Carrie realizes shit, like I did something really stupid, which you did. How did you not immediately call your boyfriend and say your ex-wife just called me and asked me to bring Adderall down? I don't understand that.

It happened so quickly because Charlotte took over. But still, she still could have worked it into the conversation. But she didn't. That's. Not our girl, is it? No, but. That level of 4th. Right, but this is this really demonstrates why someone dating someone without kids dating

somebody with kids. I thought it's like it really was sort of a perfect example of what happens in those situations where someone who doesn't have kids is dating somebody with kids and they just don't fully get it right. They don't fully understand that there's sort of protocol and this is how things play out. And, you know, you know, in theory, oh, they're always going to put their kids first. But when they do it, it's it's another story if it just hits different. So yeah.

I like when Aiden snaps at when she tries to apologize for the Adderall and he's like, not now. Carrie, not now. Not like she's a child. Like she's a child. Like she's a child. Yeah, I'm really starting to hate. Yeah, but that's not gonna have herself. We're there she but but to be fair, she was doing the Carrie thing of really this is not the time for this conversation and she's just going on and on and he's clearly like trying not to listen to her and he that's when

he snaps Carrie, not tonight. If that it. I don't, I think if a partner ever spoke to me in a way that embarrassed me, I don't know that I would recoup from even if nobody else was around, if you say something to cause me shame, I, I, I don't think there's any coming back from that. I, I, I couldn't, I couldn't get over just the whole topic, everything with Wyatt, it was, it was such a volatile topic and

situation. So they go back in, they're playing some game that I didn't fucking understand until like, the end. Oh, it's apples to apples. Oh, okay, whatever. So they're playing this game, everybody's having fun. Well. Actually, this is relevant because this is the reason why it blows up, right? And this is, I think, a major clue about why it actually. OK. So apples to Apples is a card game where you have a deck of cards that, well, it doesn't, it doesn't even matter.

You have a deck of cards, right? And then someone draws a card that is like a descriptor and you have to like match your card. So there's like two ways of playing it, right? The literal way. Like if someone draws a card, this is fruit and you have one that says apple, right? And then there's like the fun way, which is how everyone else was playing the game right when Carrie said pumpkin spice lattes are mysterious and everyone everyone was on board, what with that?

Except it pissed Wyatt off because he's a literal man. Right. He's a literal man child, right. So they're playing this game. I don't know he what's his name, Homer chooses Carrie's thing like the the cafe pumpkin spice latte because his clue was mysterious. He chooses pumpkin spice latte and Wyatt flips and he says it's mine was mystique. I mean, it's literally in the name. Like what do you why didn't you

choose mine? And the two brothers are clearly they've hit their fill of the they're over it. They're way fucking over it, way over it. And we've all been in those situations where you have my sister Pam, this was my sister Pam, where you try to sit down.

I'm not going to lie, when this scene happened, I cried and I don't I've been thinking about this and thinking about what something like clicked in me. Not clicked but it set off something in me. The scene was, I think, like one of the reasons the episode was so well done. There's such a relief in terms of like, oh God, finally we're seeing character development because this also, it didn't remind me of my family exactly. But I think we all see a little

bit of our family in the scene. Yeah, it's one of those situations where you get together, maybe it's a holiday, whatever it is, and you're really trying to have a good time. And what happens? That one person in the family who always start shit, start shit and there goes the good time. And at least one parent is like they can't help. It right, right. Yeah. So can't be held accountable, right? For their actions. So why it isn't getting

increasingly angry? More and more angry and no one ever picks me and Aiden says, well, you'll get the next one, bud. No, but he should have picked. Why would you promise that, Aiden? But no one's ever picked me. And he goes, Carrie picked you in the first game. Well, none of you did. And he's pointing at his family. He's like, and he gets up and he goes to watch, goes to play video games. And Aiden is saying, Wyatt, you know, come on, this is family night or whatever. Come on, come on.

This is Tate's birthday. Put the put the game down. Put the game down. And finally Aiden's like, put the game down. Aiden. Wyatt gets up. You never pick me. You never pick me. What? This isn't a family night. They're all, you know, they are here, so it's not family. And both of the brothers are like, suck it, you're a crybaby. We're done with this. And Wyatt leaves, and they're sitting there and they're all talking and Homer says, fuck you, Wyatt.

And then there's this quiet. And as they're talking, all of a sudden, Wyatt comes back with some kind of stick, smashes it into the window. I love, love, love a good analogy. You know this, this was the breaking point, the breaking point.

The window shatters and breaks, the illusion shatters and breaks and caring is now saying she's in that position that I think a lot of potential step parents find themselves in when they're dating somebody where there isn't just like every family has some kind of tension or trauma or drama. But this was this was extreme. And to me, because we find out that Aiden that Wyatt had been diagnosed with ADHD and he doesn't didn't want Wyatt having medicine.

Aiden didn't want Wyatt having the Adderall. And his wife is saying This is why he needs the medication. He's got a substance abuse problem and you want to give him pills? Bro, you're all sitting around drinking alcohol in front of this kid. What are you talking about? What what? What? You just want to be right. You just want to be right. So this is this is it for Carrie. Carrie now realizes.

And I think this is the first time Carrie has actually shield away or been turned off by drama, right? Well, this would do it right? This would do it, but she's in that position where there that potential step parent role and you have to ask yourself, does does my love for this person? Will it make up for what I'm going to be taking on?

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