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Robert Pills The Gang on NFTs

Nov 18, 202149 min
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Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart Radio Together Everything. So don't don't. Welcome to America, listeners, America America? Are we America customs and border Patrol? Is that what this is for the listeners? Okay, because we're guarding the customs to the border of knowledge. Check your ears at the U gate. Yeah, check your ears somewhere, motherfucker, and your pockets of thoughts. So good at podcasting. This is really amazing, real, Yeah, you know, life is Cody Katie.

Did you know there's an n f T band? Now? Okay? Sorely he can't even he can't even wait to share this. I don't. I don't know what this story is, so happy, So if you don't, If you spend any time on social media, you're probably aware that like n f T s or a thing, and for reasons that are knowable

unto not even God. The most popular ones are a bunch of procedurally generated, um almost identical cartoons of apes in various clothing like it's the same basic ape image, and some will have laser shooting out of their eyes, and yeah, some will have party hats and some have sold for I think the most one sold for five million dollars um and now it didn't it didn't for real sell because what you do these things, well yeah, well, I mean yeah, what you do with these things is

you own one and you either have a separate quality, like pay someone to buy it for slightly more than a certain amount of money and you give him a kickback whatever. Like there's a couple of ways to do it, but it's just this process of people like by pulling it like like starting with like you know, you get up to the first ten, fifteen thousand or whatever like that, by kind of using your own money to establish that

it has value. And because of the blockchain, the transactions where this is you selling it to you or a proxy over and over again, those transactions like are registered on the blockchain, so it looks like, oh wow, people have just been progressively paying more for it. The values

like quadrupled in three days. I should throw down money right now, and then suddenly no one's willing to buy it because there's not like actual demand for this, which is why Logan Paul paid seven thousand for an n f T that he can't sell for like or last I checked, he was unable to sell it and the one that was five hut forty million dollars. It was

found because whoever did deal wasn't being careful enough. He like bought it as with a separate wallet and then transferred it back to his original wallet, which people could see. So I guess you could say the strength of the blockchain is that people were able to find out pretty quickly. Oh, this guy conned everybody. He's just buying his own thing

to raise up the price. But on the other hand, um, it doesn't seem to have stopped the irrational exuberance over cartoon pictures of monkeys selling for millions of dollars as part of a money laundering scheme. So now Universal Music Group has bought up four of these like monkey pictures.

The specific thing therefrom is called the Board a Board a pyacht Club, which is one of the n f T projects that like there's a little more of an actual thing going on, and that having an n f T like you get into this digital community and ship like there's some perks that aren't just you own a link to a drawing um and for whatever reason people are Universal has decided this is a good thing to bet on, so they bought like a handful of these

and f T s, and then they found musicians. They basically made the monkeys like the band, but they're also of n FT images, out of n f T images of monkeys, um, and now they're they're doing a musical thing. It's probably gonna be like a shitty gorilla's rip off, right or the monkeys, I mean the monkeys, Yeah, mash up. I could get behind that. I can't behind any of this. It's stupid, it's incredibly right. Have you seen the ad for the official n f T TV show What Shut

the funk Up? Oh? Yeah, I'm playing this. We're playing the audio from this in the fucking episode. I'm gonna drop it in. So this is a ship like again, it's another one of these things where a group of people with some actual money. Um potentially they got rich in en I don't know, but like they've got enough to put together a little animation. Um, and they're advertising a TV show made up of n f T s that people bought and like licensed to make the show.

Because not this, Every n FC doesn't work this way. The n f T on its own confers the right to nothing. But like where the link is stored um, but the board apes in particular, when you buy one of these, you get the ability to like sell the rights to this procedurally generated ape image, which are deliberately the laziest things in the world. They're not characters, they're just like crude images in anyway, some I'm sure grifters. I'm certain this is going to fall apart as a grift.

But they had enough actual money or or enough people who believed in the vision that they put together this trailer for a cartoon TV show based off like four licensed n f T s, like three of them are apes and one of them is identical drawings of lions basically, So I'm just I'm gonna play or we're gonna play this now. I hate explaining this because it's so stupid, but it continues to be a fighting thing. So I'm a good job of like not knowing enough about this

to get mad. It's it's it's infuriating. I am a furious by it. It's not even infuriating because of like the environmental cost. Like yes, there's a separate place in my head that's angry about that, because like a billion things people do have horrible making normal movies has horrible environmental costs, right, Like we do a lot of ship that's bad for the environment. That's not the specific reason that I hate n f T s. The specific reason I hate a f is because how fucking stupid they are.

It's so stupid and boring and empty and like it just isn't the right word. Yeah, I hate to sound money on it, but like your grandparents, like just not understanding the appeal, but really, really, what's the appeal? Um? Yeah, play this trailer. I mean the appeal is making money for the people who get really, Yeah, let's watch let's watch this cartoon masterpiece. One am I reading this right? I'm doing a video of that Monkeys going to space? Oh my god? Whatever, whatever, it gets me paid, right,

we having me. It's the year Earth is dying. Humans fucked up real bad, Michael Jackson bad. But there's still home. Where there's an ape. There's a way. Come on, that's a dog. Yeah, it's because the dog and I'm guessing the Red Ape family coming soon. I don't know what I looked at. How you feeling about that, Cody? You look like you're about to have an aneurysm am, I oh god, it's a combination so many things that Yeah,

like it's nothing, it's nothing. What was that? It's what it was like, it's a bunch of the spaceship was called the musk one. Yeah, and the pictures of them looking out spaceship windows and trailer the laziest animation and it's it's not I'm not talking about like like you watch an old cartoon like The flint Stones, and like the animation the things that can make the characters do is kind of primitive to today, and like there's kind

of a charm to that. This isn't charming. This looks like something somebody put together on a laptop for because that's what they did. It's charming. The Flintstones is charming because that was not lazy in any capacity. That's where we were at. Like that was a lot of work to make. Um, this was not. I hate that so much. And uh, it's just what is it about? What is like? What is it about? What? Who is writing? There's no hint of the plot other than the world destroyed? Yeah.

Also like where there's a what was it? Where there's a h an ape, there's a way, yeah, something like that, where there's not an ape, like, come on, yeah, they're they're they're not great writers. I mean, it's it's this

thing where they have this all consuming vision. The people who are like because it's a it's a mix of people in n f T s of like people who are just laundering money, right, and and they're just like, well this is this is a great way to launder money, or people who are good con artists and are like, well, I can make and a lot of people have pulled off multimillion dollar cons by like creating a line of n f T s and then taking all of the money,

um and not delivering any of the promised features. Like it happens all the time in this world. It's just this like stupid. It's also they're so insistent the people who are true believers, because that's most of like the marks, right, Like the people who just want you see this as a money making venture are using the people who think that this is going to be all of society as marks.

And I would feel worse for those people if this wasn't their vision of all of society, if like they weren't the kind of people who would look at some ship like this and be like, oh okay, the or or or like this is a good future where like we randomly generate images of apes and cast them in

cartoon shows and and have that be our currency. Right, And it's not this on its own, because it's like, yeah, I'm sure at some point there will be completely computer generated plots and actors and voice actors and the whole whole stories that human beings never had a hand in touching. And maybe they'll just be interesting because of how ridiculous and unhinged they are, certainly at first, But like, this

isn't fun, it isn't kitchy. It's just crap. It's just they've invented away to kill more trees to make crap. It's like a first draft of a sketch that you

make when you're just out of college. Yeah, and yeah, and and in fairness, this has seventy nine, which gives you some idea of like number one, what a con and f t s are like the big companies that are getting in on this, I think are getting fleeced like a lot of the little people, because the numbers that some of these are selling for have convinced people like, Okay, this is a real thing, or at least real for

a while. But this is a small mean. This video has seventy nine thousand views, right, and most of them are people making fun of it. It has four hundred and four likes and twenty nine thousand down earth four and four up votes in twenty nine thousand down votes, which is an amazing ratio. That's wow, that's incredible. Yeah, yeah, it's just anyway. The good news is that the new whatever spending bill that just came out, the big, the big, you know, Biden's very happy about it. The thing of

the jig um, it's better infrastructure. There's some ship. The ship I think it's in that bill. It maybe just getting passed around the same time. But there's some restrictions on what n f T s. They're not restrictions, there's clarification as to how they're being treated. Because a lot of critics of n f T have been saying, this is just unlicensed securities trading. You're just you're just trading securities without a license, um, and you're calling it something else.

And now the government has said, hey, yeah, you got to treat these like securities, which means when you sell one to somebody, you have to have an actual person, you have to provide a person's information to the government as to who that sale was, which means you can't anonymously pay people to just like bid things up as easily because you're also paying more than thirty taxes or I think it's about that much on like that the biggest ones these you're paying taxes on these for every transaction,

and they have to have the real names of real people so that you can't The benefit of this from a grifting standpoint was that since it stood outside of the UH because like actual art, like real art is used for money laundering all the fucking time. Um it's been a huge problem, and a bunch of laws it came in and safeguards were put in the place to reduce the ability of art sales to work in the same way that I explained in f T s work.

And now the situation is that, um, like for a while n f T s were kind of nobody was looking at them or the government was not taking action on anything, so you could have the same guy just bid up as long he had other cryptot to uses like the basis, just continually bit up the price of whatever n f T he had into like wow, this is worth twenty million dollars and look at all these people who have been Maybe it's just this one guy.

He can't do that anymore because he's paying taxes on every one of those transactions that exists to jack up the price of the n f T and he has to make it public. Who like, he has to he has to at least let the government know who's um, who's buying it, So like, yeah, it's just this guy manipulating a security um anyway, so hopefully they're fucked. They've got like a year I think before all this, all this gets settled. But that's my n f T rant

for the day. How are you all feeling confused? But um, yeah, it's not. You're not confused because you don't get it. You're confused because it's just too stupid to be real. Yeah, that's that's that's the only your confusion comes from a place of like, how could how could it be this dumb? And that's exactly right. I yeah, this sp a man on the But I've gotten more and more comfortable with

accepting that, Like over the past couple of years. It's not just n f T s, it's lots of things where I'm like everything, and so you just have to, um, get comfortable with the unknowing. Yeah, embrace the stupid. Uh. This ties into another piece of news because last last week, Um, Richard Kianka, better known as Low Tax, founder of the Something Awful forums, died Um and he had he was not a good person. Uh was a spousal abuser on a number of different cases, like squandered every opportunity in

piece of good fortune that came his way. But he also invented, like the modern a huge chunk of like digital culture that even persists in the social media era. Like Something Awful is where memes in a lot of cases got started. It's the first time you had like people on an internet community like going into the real world to like go after the Church of scientology and ship like it. And it's very important piece of foundational

digital culture. And Richard Kianka had a motto for the website that he ran into the ground called the Internet makes you Stupid, which is the the only thing he ever really got right. Um, it's so fucking dumb. Everything is so goddamn stupid. And like n f t s, they don't really like the The environmental impact is horrible. If you view the total environmental impact of n f t s on like a global scale, it's not problem no one, but the sheer, the sheer scope of how dumb in f t S are as a concept is

offensive to the soul. Yeah, and how much dumber they'll get. Yeah, they'll only get yeah blasting off to Mars to Muskville. They go to Muskville by the way. Yeah, of course they go to chains by the way. Oh good, so somebody knows what they're doing. That's good to hear. This is so ridiculous, chicks, baby have you You should look at the lazy Lions art if you really want to get angry lions. Yeah, there's all the same. Yea procedurally generated crap like someone drew one monkey and then plugged

a bunch of fucking accessories into an algorithm. Excuse me, excuse me, they're idiots, right, Like it's not just lazy art,

it's like offensively shitty. I mean, it's like want to embrace it, like, yeah, we don't give your eyes general And I hate believe you said that I should look at these you, I there's something important I haven't quite figured out how to write about this yet and like what what this is all kind of like swirling around in my head for me, But like it's just I I thinks, as a student of history, you have to avoid acting as if there's a privileged position within time

to stand from right in terms of like making judgments about things and how dumb things are. And it is true that incredibly dumb things we're have been going on all throughout history, and that's that's made up the majority of international relations at least, is very dumb things. But I'm not a historian, but I am a student. I do study history quite a lot, and this is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of people doing. Like We've done a lot of stupid stuff, but this

is so fucking dumb. Well, what it really is is an alarming sign of our devolution, evolution whatever you want to call it. Um culturally, I don't know if that's the case. I think this is the way things go,

you don't think. I think devolution again is kind of acting from within a privileged position in time and and taking the stance that, like something else that I experienced some other moment in history, I think was better now for these reasons, and so I guess kind of the way I prefer to look at it is not that like this is bad because things were better before, but like the stupidity of this, um would not have been possible in another era, the kind of we we invented

a new kind of dumb for this. Right throughout history, people invent new kinds of stupid, And this is like, this is something new being born right now. We haven't fully seen the shape of this kind of stupid yet. Sure, that's a better way of approaching it than just devolution, that's the jokey thing. But you know, yeah, this is

a choice people are trying to make. Yeah, the direction that we are going used to like people and like influencers and like social capital tied up to it, and like, well, and I guess what's scary is like this might work. It might be in terms of the metrics by which you people govern society. Um, this might they might decide, like, Nope,

this was a great idea. Burning up huge chunks of carbon into the atmosphere in order to make procedurally generated monkey pictures into lazy cartoons is the way we want the human race to work. I mean, just a general I know, I know what might happen, we might be seeing this happen, but in general, it just astounds me that a whole new industry has emerged that is very bad for the planet, despite the conversations that we all have every day that we're like, yeah, let's get behind

this thing. And I know that in the scheme of things, there's lots of stuff that are bad for the planet, just like you laid out earlier. But a new thing that we all like, this is so much. It's one thing. It's one thing to give, it's one thing to kill the world by giving human beings what we've always wanted, which is like a horse that can never die, um and protects us from the rain and plays our favorite

music right like that, And that's that's dumb. That was a bad decision, but it mad like historically you can see like it's sathing with like air travel horrible for the environment. It's fulfilling a dream man has had for going back now air travel as a person to like, so we're doing horrible damage to the environment in order to turn pictures of monkeys into commodities. Why terrible pictures of monkeys alright, terrible, horrific pictures of monkeys. Um. Anyway,

that's that's all I have to say. Yeah, it was a lot, and I thank you. I'm sorry. Break, don't be sorry. You just we get to take a break, you know, we get to take a break together. Everything all right, We're back. And I think during the break

I came up. I came to the conclusion, like, what is so offensive about n f t S. To me, it's the it is the end of all pretense of the American dream in terms in terms of like the pretense that like in the United States, you can be born poor and you can, through good decisions and careful work, become a business owner and own your own business and make and raise your your class and your position in society, and like anyone can do that. That's like the that's

the American myth, right um. And so past scams like am Weigh and the like latched onto that myth by saying like this is the way for you to make your own business and raise to become a rich person, raise out of the working class, and you can do it if you just work hard enough. And that was a scam. The whole thing was always a scam. Like even outside I am way. But it was a scam with an understandable dream attached, which is like, I I want to believe that with hard work, I can improve

my position in the world. That's an empowering thing to believe when you come out of the beliefs that people had before about like, yeah, your social position is born and you it cannot be moved. You know, you're a surf. You'll die a surf. That's the way it works. You know, there's there's absolutely no mobility coming out of that world. It was like this big deal and every scam that's hit this country since it's like latched onto parts of it.

But there was there was a core there of like this dream of through your own effort rising ahead in the world, as opposed to the kind of the core of the n f T scam isn't through your own effort you can rise ahead in the world. It's if you buy the right procedurally generated monkey picture, you could

become a billionaire. That's the promise of n f T S and I. It's how to make the most amount of money with the least amount of effort you can get you can it's it's it's my nephew, you who's way too old to believe that Elon Musk is very cool to have billions of dollars. Um, what else should we talk about? I don't know, real quick. When you when you, if you guys did make the mistake of googling the lazy lions and seeing the images and the image search, if you scroll down, you will be treated

to actual pictures of lazy lions and it's really cute. Yeah, now that sounds like that sounds like a good thing to be trading around. That's just exactly I would I can imagine a utopian civilization in which human beings are able to like store the emotional and mental like data of seeing something for the first time and share that, and then the currency in that world does become the cutest things you've seen an animal done, because like then everyone can relive that moment that your cat fell in

that ridiculous word whatever. That would be a much saner base for a system of currency. I think, um, just shop he's fucking I'm sorry, these fucking stupid apes in their stupid spaceship escaping Earth, which is destroyed. Why do you think the Earth is destroyed? Stid F. I just need to say we've we've spent so much time talking about a trailer that none of our listeners saw. They just listened to us react to it's fine, radio baby, Fine,

let's let's talk about other things. Yeah, uh, Cody, you'd said, yeah, okay. Well Alex Jones, guys, how about oh yeah he lost God? What is this his fourth case for his words once again? Um yeah, it's like it's uh, it's definitely not his first, probably not his last. Probably, Um yeah, he's found liable. Um by default. Umi, almost doesn't happen. Like it's very difficult, Like very rarely does a case like this end by default.

It's like almost unheard of because it just means that the court kept saying, okay, as a result of this case, you are legally obligated to provide us with X. And Alex Jones and his lawyers always said no. The the guy they had acting as the representative of the company, like that's an official person you have to designate in this kind of a case. Is like who who is speaking for the company? The guy that they picked for that wasn't told that was his job when he went

in to be the post. Like in the deposition, you can hear him find out that he's representing Knowledge Fights done some incredible coverage of this, but yeah, he's he keeps losing cases. Um, it should put him out of business. Uh thinkers business. Through this, I discovered that one of his companies it is called Free Speech Systems, which I guess I think it's kind of Ye, it's good stuff. Um, it's yeah, good stuff. I mean, this thing is discussing.

I mean, I knew that this has been going on, but in this news breaking and reading through everything, I had forgotten just how disgusting it is. I'm just gonna the shooting. This is from the a p. The shooting was portrayed on Jones's Infu Infu War shows a hoax

involving actors aimed at increasing gun control. Jones has since acknowledged the schools shooting did occur, but families of the victims said that they have been subjected to harassment and death threats from Jones's followers because of the hoax conspiracy pushed on info Wars. I just stop to think about that for a moment, because we're talking about this and

making jokes. But what this represent these people, I mean, the greatest tragedy and then to have years and years and years of this fucking clown making their life a living hell. Uh and way, there's no point here. I just feel like it's important to acknowledge what this is about and what happened here. Yeah, um it's a gross man and uh, you know, like the records that he was supposed to release were related to whether or not he profited from spreading about this. He wouldn't, so maybe

he did from that. And they're gonna, you know, appeal this and everything and push for this, and they're just trying to say that there's no proof that we did this. Well, you're not providing proof that you didn't. Man, Yeah you I mean, Alex does this every time. It's like that. It's like when you bring up things that he said, um, in like criticizing him, he'll say, like if you play a clip from it, he'll say, it's taken out of context.

Like it it doesn't matter. The only the only thing that matters from this is that fucking god willing they will destroy the ability of Info Was to operate as a company through the lawsuits as a result of this. Um. That that's all I think we can really get from it. Um. Yeah, I so this is sort of related, um because the same same kind of little little monster. Um. I don't

know if anyone else saw this. Uh Milo Unapolis in a minute is uh you know he's going through his like I'm no longer gay phase, like I'm converted and I'm straight now, Um, a reasonable like respectable guy now. Uh. He is currently selling uh little Virgin Mary statues on a church militant dot shop uh uvc type um the church militant test its own shopping network. Oh yeah, um. And it's him next to this like sixties seventy year old lady. Uh, just trying to sell these little merry statues. Um,

as if nothing else happened before this. Um, it's very very funny. I don't know if you want to even like what's he being? So wait, how do they describe him on the channel, Like what is he? I haven't seen. I don't know. I've seen selected clips, so I haven't seen like the introduction of this show, like Hi, I'm this person and here's Milo. Do not google him? But

easier to uh to sell these for you. Um. It's very it's just very entertaining to watch if you have if you have the time, check out Milo Annapolis Christian Church militant YouTube shopping. Look at him sitting on this screen next that little old that old lady. It's so it's so weird, like to see this uh adoring virgins adoring virtue statue fifty. What a deal? What a deal? What a freaking deal? Right? Look at gross. It's not news and it's not super related, but uh they're the

same person to me. Um, and good for him. I'm glad he's landing on his feet. Well, yeah, you know, it's just good to see someone working, you know, by that he's gotten got something going on, you know, he's yeah, he's he's all over this channel dot shop. Um, that's bleak. Yeah, you don't want to help me determine something. Yeah, So there was this there's this fucking video going around from

the Laura Ingram Show where it's rough. Um, it's supposed to be like the name of the segment is Numbers Don't Live youre was like woke free TV, and so I think it's about how uh woke TV is uh not getting good ratings or some ship. Um, that's what it's supposed to be about. This comes apparently just in the middle of of of the segment. Um, Yeah, is it another thing that we're gonna listen to? Yeah, we probably should. Yeah, yeah, I can't tell if it's a

bit or not. Um, I have opinions on this, yeah earlier. Yeah, it's going. I just checked it, like, I just saw it for the first time right before we started recording. So I had and it doesn't there doesn't seem to be Wait, is this the youth thing? Yeah? It is, it is. I just can't this a bit or real. No, it's fucking real, and it's really fucking funny. Okay, Jared, Katie, I'm so excited for you to see this. You know, I was watching an episode of You where measles came up.

Wait wait, wait when did I mention measles? I don't know it was on you? What? What was on me? What are you talking about? Right? What? I never had the meas's on you? We never did. We never did a measles in vaccine episode of my Is this a joke? I don't know you're talking about? It was on you? It was on you. I never had Raymond, I've never had measles. What are you talking about? The stupid it was an episode of a show Laura, what's it called you?

It's called you. I've never done a show on measles. I just completely called you on Netflix. There's a show called Lauring. I'm a Netflix. I'm moving home to Adele. I can't explain this to you, singer. Oh wow, I don't know. I think it's real. I think it's fucking real. I think it's no that real. I think it's real. I think it's real. I think they're a debate about this. There's a hearty debate about this. Did she come out and be like I was joking or something, and like

I understood the whole time because you didn't. You didn't you just you didn't she She seemed to be getting flustered a bit about it. It's it's it's clearly it's obviously an Abbot and Costello bit. I made a joke about that on Twitter that like, this is the Thousand Monkeys typewriters version of of of the works of Abbot

and Costello. But that's also like the kind of harmless old timey comedy that a bunch of right wing ghoules would pick to replicate on their show for some baffling reason, I would need to like sit down and look at the cody if you seen more of the context of this. No, I haven't seen that before. I would have to look at an episode of the ingram Angle. Apparently they've done like things like this before, not exactly the context, but they've done bits. It's like, it's because the thing is,

if it's not planned, it's extremely funny and embarrassing. Uh. If it is planned, it's very stupid, And if it's planned, it's very stupid imporing. But I um, and what's the point, which I guess means, well, you know what we're talking about it, so we're talking about accomplished, right, I guess yeah. I mean we're just here's the thing you're saying. You're saying that it's very clearly a comedy act or it's not funny enough to is if it's clearly a calmedy act,

make it clear that it's a comedy act. I don't. I the I think what it is is more evidence that that side of the population in this country has gotten so we've gotten so pulled apart that it's like I grew up watching Fox News every day and I'm like, I don't I don't know what they're going for with this ship. This is just this is just ridiculous. Well, also like her whole show is like a bit, like it's just it's like the entire thing is just like they're all a bit but like they don't tend to

do this. Again, I'm not a regular watcher Laura Ingram. I think she was a no that was gredive ancestor and who was the big lady anchor on Fox when I was a kid. But there's a there's like a moment, Uh, we're the same guy fell out of his chair um on the same episode. No, no, no, no no, it's from here we Go. It's you might have remembered when they took a they okay, it's when they took pictures of

themselves with bud light. Was during the Kavanaugh hearings and they were like people, and so they got bud light out and then they tried to take a selfie and then he fell out of his chair and she says they did it on purpose. Uh so, like I just like this weird like limbo space of like they do these things is that either don't quite work or they do them accidentally. And then they claimed that they did

them on purpose. I'm excited, No, Cody, you know what I'm really excited for when when these these beautiful, precious moments from the ingram Angle are turned into n f T s so that you can digitally own it? Would that fun? You're you joke? But my god, absolutely that's where it's head and baby if it doesn't. And now one of our listeners, one of you guys, is going to take that idea and run with it. Yeah, this is your chance to be a millionaire. Yeah you got

like a year, right, you got this is your window. Yeah, you got about a year. We're going to take a quick break and then we're gonna come back and shoot the ship somewhere together everything. Oh gosh, we sure are we sure are? Welcome back to the ingram Angle. Do a little bit an tell if there are jokes or not? Um, Michael Flynn, that was pitched as an idea that we talked about Bannon TV. Has anyone ever done like a like a Michael Flynn Dr Quinn medicine woman mash up?

It seems that seems doable. Another idea just for the masses. You're just being gold today, Rob, just just throwing out money making. So yeah, Michael Flynn's in the news this week. Is it good? No? Uh? For a comment that he made during a speech to a conservative Christian audience, um and what's it called the Reawakened America Tour in Texas.

He said, if we're going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion, one nation under God, and one religion under God, right, all of us working together? What the fuck is that? What is he trying to do? What is he doing here?

He's leaning He's leaning in, leaning hard into it, right, like this is what this is what like the Republican Party generally wants, right like like he's like he's like he's so uh deep in getting away with stuff and just like being in the news kind of and not really that he can just sort of say this stuff out loud. Right, Yeah, you knows these articles like what is this in the article James Clappers, Mike Flynn today

is not the Mike Flynn of prior to that. I know, you know this, this guy has changed, you know, I mean you gotten deep ship. Uh. He was cooperating in the investigation with the Russian you know, collusion whatever. Oh my god, we've been through so much. Um, you know. Then he flipped and campaigned hard for you know and Donald Trump apardon from Donald Trump, which he got. So he's just a living example of everything, you know, Like

he keeps doing it. He's doing it because he can, and he gets away with it, and there's nothing left for him except to lean and harder now you know. Yeah, that's the thing that happens when these people like go

go so far off the edge. Um, And it's I don't know, there's a lot of conversation about like, I don't know, Um, how do you how do you handle the fact that with mass media, anyone you try to like punish for doing something objectively terrible and he's done a lot of funked up ship is UH is not going to just like find a fan base and UH become a millionaire talking about how we need to murder all the non Christians? Like what do you? I don't

actually know what the solution to Mike Flynn. The problem is, it's it's a it is a sticky wicket for society to try to answer, because if you're going to have free speech and presidents who can pardon people, and a political system that works the way ours does. You're gonna have Mike Flynn's and it doesn't it doesn't even matter.

He's he doesn't matter as an individual. There would be people like him who would make the decisions he's making because he's just making perfectly rational decisions for a guy in Mike Flynn's position. Yeah, And I don't know. I don't know what we do about this. Uh um, Well, I don't find him on the Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's like open invitation. Why the fun we can talk to him about the come of elected leaders. Yeah, yeah, I mean what do we do about it? Steve Bannon

was indicted this week? Yeah, he sure was. I guess we'll see if there was. It's I don't know, he's already out on out without bail. I mean the arraignment comes Thursday. Yeah. I don't feel great about this. I don't feel great about contempt of Congress as like a thing we go after people for. Well, it's not going to be much, no matter what. It's like thirty days, it's it's it's dollars, nothing but helped him, like they're not.

It's because it's because they're not willing to go after him for like well, you could make a pretty strong legal case that he tried to incite a revolution, like a violent overthrow of the government, which is like pretty serious crime. You could be you can you can get some hard time for trying to overthrow the entire government of the United States. Um. But again it's he had another like compromise and half measure in dealing with the coup,

which means we're going to have another fascist coup. That's the way they work. That's what I mean. I was like, just because it didn't happen yet doesn't mean he's not still working for it. Yeah, yeah, get like lets himself get in front of the camera and pay himself as like this sort of like murder figure for a brief moment until he pays the fucking fine, uh and give his little speech about the future and where we're going.

What's fun is that Mike Flynn has also been subpoena He's just spending his life testifying in front of h anyway, Sorry, just laugh. I don't know, I don't know what to do. I'm I'm doing the thing that happens to me at the end of every year, which is I've completely given up on society and civilization, and I'm willing to walk into the woods and hopefully by the time, yeah, by the time we get to like Jan Feb next year, I'll be I'll be ready to re engage with the

world in a productive manner. But I'm just I'm not just at my wits end with it right now. I am too. I think we all are. I feel well, like, let's put this into context. I mean, none of us have had vacations in forever years. It's been a slug and um to Syria. That was nice. You went to Syria. That was a vacation. It's part of a vacation. Yeah, it was. It was nice. It was it was a part of the vacation. Yeah, it was great. It was

a lot better than than working all the time. I mean, I guess I've had a week off here there, but not the same thing. Yeah, it's been a while. So Yeah, we've been talking guys about how we can have some fun for the rest of the year on the show, and we've got some ideas. We're gonna have some fun. Um. Yes, we we are going to um launch an n f T band based off of pictures that Katie and I have taken of Cody in moments where he trusted us. Uh,

it's the it's the Cody collection. There's thirty thou images, um, and you can and if you own them, you have the right to monetize Cody's image. Um, you could cast him in your own n f T cartoon. Yeah, image for every song songs coming your way. Maybe you should make yourself an n f T and make an album

to go with it or something. I I will never participate in n f T s any way, unless unless it's very funny, right, But so maybe my my line remains the same, which is that I will I will take on any deal in exchange for a bear Cat or equivalent armored vehicle. But in the case of n f T s, their credit is no good and I will need the armored vehicle provided to me in full before I will. I will say anything nice truck count absolutely not in the under no circumstances. No, it makes sense,

it makes sense. I can't believe I met someone who bought one. Anyway. Well, I mean whatever, I'm sure it'll be fun. Most I mean the Tesla products. They're kind of old for electronic cars now, but like they're fun. Um, Like I get white people like them. It's the same thing like the Rivian though like the truck, well, no, I I don't Well, I don't enjoy the design aesthetics of the Tesla truck, but I know, like a nightmare. I mean it like it will eat you. It's not,

it's it's not. It's not a boring design. So I don't know people like to own weird ship. That makes sense to me. The fact that people might want to own a ridiculous space car that looks like the fucking vehicle from Halo. Um, Like, oh yeah, I get white people are going to buy that fucking thing. Um and whatever. It's a thing. At least it has it crosses that barrier actually being broken. Capable of being broken when you punch its window, yeah, but capable but capable of moving

even if it's a terrible truck. A terrible truck is better than the best drawing of a monkey like utility perspective. No disagreement. I just don't want to date the person driving that car. That's that's fine. Everyone has the right to I won't date anyone who drives a Mitsubishi. You know, we have our we have our opinions. Are lines in the sand, our lines in the sand. That's right, that's right, Tell you or die. Yeah, I really like my super u. Um,

have we done it? Have we discussed all the things? Yeah, this is this is legally, Sophie is legal giving us the sign off legally an episode, I will say. We did want to briefly mention Brittany is free. That is good. That is nice for conservative ship. So if you are in a conservative ship, be a famous millionaire and maybe you two can one day get out of it. Um. I did see, I think yesterday being passed around these photos of her in her car, Like, oh, look she's free.

Look she's a free woman. I'm so happy, and like, maybe leave her alone. Ye made her lesson here, Maybe leave her alone? Maybe just leave her alone. Yeah, that's my that's a great, a great note to end on. Yeah for today, UM, leave her the funk alone, guys, and have a great Thanksgiving next year. We won't be dropping an episode next week, but back the week after that.

It was something fun. What we're fun. We're thankful. I would like to also extend congratulations to friend of the Pod JP Morgan, who is suing Tesla for breach of contracts. Relating to and they want a hundred and sixty two million dollars from him immediately. And in this instance, I I support JP Morgan because I think it would be funny if Elon Musk paid officially became the man who paid a hundred and sixty two million dollars to tweet.

The money is going to be in a in a bad person's hands either way, it might as well be funny. And it's funny, very funny. Yah, just just so he can tweet. And sixty nine it's a good stuff. What an amazing, what a what a world that we live in? What it's silly n f t of the world. Yeah, anyway, I get your monkeys and lions, so dumb everything, so dump it's got again. I tried Dan. Worst Year Ever

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