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It's a lot of um news in the news. The news, Yeah, although technically less news during the time the news is happening. Let's access to the news. Let's access to the news because Facebook just just took a big, old, big old ship. Yeah yeah, let's just, uh have a moment of appreciation for face being down. It's very funny. I did, of course, with everybody else, have a moment of may this be permanent, may this be maybe, may this be irrevocable? But here

we are. It's been. It was funny. It was funny. What's not funny is uh the large scale impact of uh, you know, the world relying on Facebook and UH and Facebook's acquisition of literally every other social media so that they all went down in place that which greatly affects people in certain areas of the world that rely on these services to communicate. So that part's not funny. But the but the part we were just talking about is funny. Yeah, they still in clear like why it happened exactly and

what happened. Um, but it's I mean the series of events of it disappearing and then people making jokes and then people doing like, no, it's like, gone, you can't do it, you can't go there, and then seeing pictures of them trying to get into their building that was very funny. Apparently use a fucking uh angle grinder to get in. That's extremely funny. I gotta yeah, step out of the digital world and uh, you can't even access Facebook emails for the company the entire Yeah, they're using

like and stuff. Yeah, it's extremely funny. It's not really a big deal. It's just like people fucked somebody, you know. I don't think we know the exact cause, but some somebody fucked up. The timing of it is strange though, So this on the heels and right before that, I'm not saying this in a conspiracy theory sense, but the

timing of it is unfortunate, um or fortunate. I mean, you see, here's the thing, because people are talking about like there was just this big TV like interview thing that was you know, showed a bunch of wrong but a bunch of reporting around wrongdoing. Well there's a there's a whistle blowowers and stuff. Speaking to Congress today, I think, can you think of a month when there hasn't been

a big Facebook scandal recently? Well, this is really big in terms of her testifying in front of Congress today and I'm providing like a lot of internal research and stuff. Um, you are, you are right, and that every single month someone's like, by the way, Facebook is garbage, you guys,

it's a real thing that happened. Yeah, But this is I would say, a case where like she is putting her neck on the line to come forward with a lot of information that is not available or has not been available in the public that Facebook has has kept internally and speaking today, So I do understand why, like I understand why the conspiracy theories are are are being

thrown around. Um, it is unfortunate timing. UM. Hopefully the focus remains on the stuff that she is saying and revealing as opposed to the hilarity, the unequivocally hilarious events of yesterday. Yeah, it's very very funny. I don't think

it's really that big a deal. And I'm I'm kind of like, yeah, I mean maybe it it was a hacker something sketchy, But people funk up all the time because there's so many different versions of this, this conspiracy, the idea that it was it was something like that, even pointing to like a post of like I've got one point, I've billion users information on Facebook, but it's from like a post from like a week or so ago, So like it makes no sense that like and then

a week later Facebook went down. Um, a lot of people are suggesting that, like and that leak wasn't really a big deal. It was the kind of thing that happens all the time. It was like a name, like a name and like a phone number wasn't even don't

even think anything like that. Um, so like it's just sort of like these again sort of to your point about how like every month there's something where because of that you can point to that and that and that and go, oh, surely they're all related as opposed to just Facebook is generally very bad and being hacked. Yeah, it's a it's a shitty company that does bad things. Um. And maybe uh somebody fucked with them, you know, maybe somebody somebody uh went after him. Um, maybe there's some

scheme here. But it's also entirely possible that it's just like people well like yeah, people fuck um. And also people don't like Facebook, so maybe there are people in Facebook we were like fuck you. Um. But also there's a there's an element. I saw people suggest that they they did it, like Facebook did it so that they could delete all the data and research that the whistleblower was talking about, which is like, first of all, uh,

she has it. She's really like it's it's out there. Um. But second yeah, right, and I think most importantly, especially when it comes to uh like uh conspiracies like this, you don't have to shut the website down to delete information, so like that doesn't add up. The only like, the only thing I will say is like, yeah, maybe they're like, oh fucking well, fucking shutdown we're on Facebook so that you realize how how much you love us. Um. But it's all, it's all, it's all silliness and well we

may never know what happened. Well, we may never know. Ultimately that does not matter so much as some of the things that this UH exposes or brings forth that we should be paying attention to. UH. One again, like I just mentioned earlier, the effects that we have the world depending on one company in one platform. I mean also the ship that's being discussed today in the congressional hearing and how they you know, use their their platform. Um, but that will be unpacked at a later date. I'm

sure this AOC tweet is good. It's almost as if Facebook's monopolistic mission to either own, copy, or destroy any competing platform has has incredibly destructive effects on free society and democracy. Um. If Facebook's monopolistic behavior was checked back when it should have been, perhaps around the time it started acquiring competitors like Instagram, the continents of people who depend on What's App and Instagram for either communication or

commerce with be fine, right now break them up? Yeah? And to me, yeah, and that's the responsive people are like, don't celebrate you know, Facebook going down, because it's really bad for you know, people in these these difficult situations.

And no, yeah, I can celebrate Facebook going down, because part of why their situation is desperate is that Facebook has monopolized communication and shouldn't be the case that like all these people like don't have other ways to communicate, yea, and things like that, if you can celebrate it while also acknowledging the very real ramifications of what this means, and that yeah, I mean because it's it's not while

also it's acknowledging it it's a problem. But also like Facebook is responsible for why some of those people are refugees, So like the fact, I'm not celebrating that some poor family in Malaysia is unable to connect with their family members who had to flee the country to avoid an ethnic cleansing. I'm celebrating that a bunch of Facebook employees got locked out of their fucking office because something fucked up, and a bunch of people who kind of haphazardly um

have in fuck into the world were inconvenienced. And that's kind of funny. Um And and you can you can do both. It's fine. You don't have to be you

don't have to do that. You know. It's the thing that happens whenever somebody posts a picture of an animal doing something funny and something like that's a sign that the animals, you know, really distressed like that just it's it's it can be a funny video of a of a fucking a marmot or whatever, like stop stop doing this, don't do this thing where you're like, actually, you shouldn't think this, this objectively funny thing is funny because of

this other bad thing that's happened in the world, like stop it, just stop it. People enjoy a thing that they have no control over, or even just like, yes, it's funny and here's this thing about it. Yeah, yes, yes, there's there's problems. Doesn't mean that it's not funny that they had to have somebody break into the Facebook offices because their entire system was reliant upon the DNS server never dropping. Um, because they automated too much and bought

into the IoT bullshit too much. And it turns out that stuff as sucks also pretty funny that the like there you know, there's a lot of a lot of jokes during the day about uh, COVID misinformation and things of that nature, and like Facebook's down time to get everybody vaccinated things like that. UM, and I think it's funny that everyone's like everyone congregated on Twitter because everything

everything else was down. Um where misinformation also thrives, um, like so much right, like so much misinformation about what happened to Facebook was spreading around while people were joking about how like Facebook's down the misinformation hub of of the globe. It's like, well it's everywhere. Um, but at least nothing will be done. Maybe something will be done.

This whistleblower is testifying to Congress today. Yeah, that's great, and uh, it's it's one of those it's interesting her she uh was reading her opening statement uh last night that she's gonna give today, and there's uh like you know, it's in depth, talks about like her position there and how long she was there and so you know, her

experience and so on. Um. And there's a passage where she likens this to tobacco companies, which is like, as I was reading it, like I was thinking, you naturally sort of think like, yeah, I remember when like they all knew these lies were lies, and they released them anyway, and they had their own research and they withheld it and stuff. Um. And so she likens it too. So here's the passage when we realized tobacco companies were hiding

the harms that caused the government took action. When we figured out cars were safer with seatbelts, the government took action. And today the government is taking action against companies that hit evidence on opioids um And that's all like fair and true, and it's but reading and them like, it's so disappointing that the same is true of like ex On mobile and and oil companies. And that's never gonna happen.

It's not like I have no larger point. It's just reading that I was like, oh, you skipped one, Oh you skipped one, because we all skipped it as a society. We just skipped over that part of knowing that they were lying, and knowing that they had all this research and withheld it. And yet here we are. Yet, and yet should we take a little quick break. I would

love to. Let's break out with our seeing us say snakes out, Yeah, something like that, Cody, something like that, are snake steaks, yeah, snake out with our breaks out? We really got there together. Everything we're bad. Put your steaks back in, folks, Time for some morees. But that's not the name of this show. It's time for the worst year ever, some even more worst year ever confusing. Well, you want to talk about now? You want to talk

about the year? Yeah, ever, get a probably get a Star Wars, right, we will get a Star War and um some Culture Wars. Probably maybe we'll get a Fantastic four. Oh yeah, that would be fun, because you know what, we don't have enough of his attempts to make a Fantastic four movie that people want to watch. We need more Fantastic four attempts. Yeah, they'll they'll never get it right, but it'll always be entertaining, and I will never watch them.

But it's entertaining just to know, Oh, they tried it again and failed. I've never seen a single one will and never never will. All of your time at crackt, neither of you guys have seen a Fantastic four, never four movie. All right, I can't think of it that I would. I had to watch the fourth or fifth Transformers movie, the one, the one where they put the law in Texas seeing about I had, and I never watched another movie for cracked unbelievable. It's like credible moment.

It's an amazing moment because it really does seem like they were filming the scene and then in the movie and the like we gotta go back, we gotta like put this in to make it okay. Yeah, and I'll guarantee you. Somebody said like, oh yeah, we should let's get a let's get a print out, and then the fucking Michael Bay was like, oh no, I have one, don't worry. Yeah, we'll just use mine. Who just used

the one? The conversation every day, every single day, this comes up four years talking about four in terms of the election, so a different kind of worst year ever. Yeah, although there's they're like with the Transformers movie, there's a chance that one of the presidential candidates will pull out a laminated piece of paper with Texas is Romeo and Juliet Law and I mean side really, like there's no way to know. Yeah, that's the Gates Taylor Green ticket. Right. God,

you know he's got that card waiting. Yeah, he has it instead of a instead of a diploma on his office wall frame. Look at when I live by, this is my code? Sorry what we were talking about? Donald Trump probably right? Unfortunately, Yeah, no, but he's maybe gonna run. Yeah, you're definitely going to run. I don't know he's not.

It's interesting there's that. There's a pretty good Washington Post article, and the point it makes is that like he's been talked out of form only announcing because no benefit to him. Like what yeah, yeah, you know who. Uh, there's a Democrat who's in the primary who announced he was running in UM and he he did. He was on the debate stage. It was one of the you know, one of the forgettable team. Yeah, one of the forgettable. I want to say, Delaney, Delaney, Delaney, Yeah, that guy that

sounds about right. Um, yes, yes, I remember his stance of he was he had money, right, he's rich. No, that's some uh the other guy, the other guy, the other guy, the other guy. He said he was rich, not Bloomberg. The other the other other guy. Yeah, yeah yeah. Speaking of rich, Donald Trump is now no longer one of the four most rich people in America according to me. Yeah, that's not for now until this lawsuit against his so

just you wait. Yeah, so one of the he's apparently chomping at the bit he wants to to announce, but doesn't, And there was he was talked out of it basically because if you announce now, then the Democrats would just run against Trump on the mid terms, and that onuldn't look good for him. And it also talks about how reticence within the party necessarily to support him. But there aren't any other candidates. They will, I mean they'll, they'll,

they'll fall in line. As soon as I like this quote, we're not supposed to be talking about it yet from the standpoint of campaign finance flaws, which frankly are ridiculous. Trump said on September eleventh, when asked if he would again be a candidate for president. But I think you're going to be happy. Let me put it that way. Yeah, never forget, Never forget. What a funny thing to say on that. Yeah, yeah, but I think you're gonna be

just the most ridiculous man in the world. Yeah, he's Um, I don't know, you know, he will probably run if he thinks he can win. Um. It's I think the mid terms will have an impact because it makes sense that he wouldn't want to He wouldn't want to be announced and like kind of make the mid terms about him if he's not confident that they're going to actually take back the House and Senate. He's getting the thing

that he likes most. He's doing his his fucking meetings or his big his speeches, and he's he's getting money. He's raising funds in a way that no former president ever has after losing an election. So I think there's better than even chance he tries to run again. But also, like, and this is the thing that doesn't seem to get discussed a lot in the articles I've read kind of evaluating this um at his age, the difference between mean

one in two years is it can be huge. It can be the difference between being able to move under your own power and not. You know, although I will yeah, you know, oh for sure, for sure, I will say also so because the thing about Donald Trump is that he doesn't like to the president. He doesn't want to be the president. He didn't want to be the president. He didn't enjoy being the president. He liked being a popular man that got the talk all day. He liked

the attention. He liked running for president. That's the fun part for him. Running for president. Um, he liked that. And like I've seen some if you've seen any interviews with him recently, uh, he is looking so much better than any of the years he was the president. Uh, he's speaking a little more clearly. Um, he just looks like he is a healthier person, getting like actually sleep

the present exactly. Um. And so uh, it's just it's just interesting to see see that sort of like that very quick transformation, and just like him talking about how like, yeah, he was miserable, he was miserable being the president. He like it, but he needs Yeah it's because he can't stand the thought of being a loser. Yeah, exactly. And we all know that he's a loser. And then Arizona last year or last week, like you're you lost again, You're you're a triple loser. But I'm curious what you

mean by this. Is this to suggest that you don't think he'll run. He just likes teasing it because I think that that. Oh, I think he will run, probably because he can win. He will because he wants to. He doesn't want to necessarily want to be president as much as he wants to wipe away the stain of losing. Yeah, he wants to get revenge and he wants to be a winner again. Um. And he because he knows he's

a loser. He knows he's lost. Um, so I guess I I guess I don't really have, just like he wants to because he wants to be you know, he misses the spotlight. He's start trying to get back on. Its theoretical. Literally, anything could happen between now and then, obviously, but you can feel. I know, the media is excited because they fucking love Donald Trump. They want to talk about him, they want to write articles about them. That's

that's what's happening now. They want to pray on that, and people are paying attention and people are perking up and Sophie not perking up. But like, I think, Donald Trump, what did you say? What? What? Where? Who? So if you texted this right before we started recording. But that article about him reapplying for Twitter, I mean that's all part of it. Reapply submitted his application for the Twitter

and it's in Florida. So I'm always like it could happen, because yeah, I think, um one of the things people should keep in mind if you're old enough, you know, if you're not one of our zoomer listeners, think back to two thousand five after Bush got reelected. Think back to two thousand twelve after Obama's or two thirteen after

Bomba got inaugurated for the second time. Um, think about who people were talking about as possible presidential choices at that point in time and the thing about who became the president next in both situations, right, um it, I think there's a pretty good chance that somebody who is not yet a major figure, certainly not yet like the assumed figure, winds up being the person who's the front runner,

you know, on the Republicans. Something like that might happen on the Democratic side to it would be nice, but like think of where Obama was and fucking two thousand five, there were some people who were like saying, oh, this guy might you know, might have but he was like he was. He was not a major, not a big name, you know. I think his speech at the DNC and two as before was the first time people were ye

oh you should try to be the president. Yeah, But it wasn't like nationally, people weren't like, oh, it's probably to be Barack Obama in two thousand five, like and and people weren't like, oh, well, Donald Trump's probably going to be the Republican from runner. Well yeah, that's the thing.

Anything anything can happen. Um. It is just that like flash in the pan moment for a lot of these situations, Uh there, you know, like the Santis is gonna try to run, like all these all these weirders are going to try um and maybe a new king weirdo will emerge. Yeah, who the funk? Like literally anything could happen. Um, it's it's uh, you know, somebody could be more Donald Trump and Donald Trump right uh and in a way in a way that isn't like very clearly like I'm trying

to be the next Donald Trump. I'm doing the thing that he did, but just like, you know, someone in a totally different but equally effective way. You know, Toby Keith could finally it might not be different. Yeah, totally different exactly. There will be similarities. But but also like Trump is that that pretty good article in the Washington Post points out, um, not super popular like on a national level, not a yeah we had a whole election about it. Yeah, we had a whole election about it.

And to be honest, one of the situations in which I think Biden might have the least trouble is if he runs against Trump again. Because Biden not super popular right now either. But also people aren't gonna forget like, like, I think it's a lot harder the fucking Trump voters who flipped to Biden because they were so unhappy with Trump. I think it's gonna be pretty hard to be well, let's try Trump again. Maybe they sit it out, but like potentially, I mean, that's certainly true. And you're right,

this article does point that out. You know, it says that, I mean, he it says he's got about like but something that an internal poll gave him just like forty Yes, there's that, and like around people at our Trump supporters, there's a percentage that I think that he is too divisive, etcetera,

so lily at this point in time. And yet he still is the strongest potential candidate at this point in time amidst too, who who is currently well, because it's radar for sure, the Republican Party, but like the Republican Party is nothing but Donald Trump. Absolutely, So that's why there is the potential for this, right But you know, I mean, like, we'll see what happens everything you've just said, but we'll see what we do in the meantime. We'll see what gets spun. Le's see what we don't do.

You know, that's they's right. They're smart to not have him announced yet because the midterms would be about him instead of being about the Democrats, which right now we're in the hot seat for There's any number of things that can happen between now and then that Republicans capitalize on in the way that they do, uh to make the case and switch switch switch the winds here, that's

the phrase, right, Yeah, we'll see this is all theoretical. Yeah, I'm I imagine every couple of months there will be a new uh series of articles along these lines about like just all this sort of speculation and uh till the end of time, until we see, until we see what happens. I can't wait even after he dies, because we can like yeah, maybe like there's some reanimation sort of thing. Um, will the Western animator, Cody, You remember

that movie Herbert Wester re Animator Animator. Yeah, pretty good movie. That's my real election is watched watch Herbert West Reanimator this month. It will do more for you than thinking about I don't know anything about that movie, but it's it's great. It's a really good movie, very fun. Um is it about undead presidents? It's about undead stuff. For sure. I my best Halloween costume one year, was it a freshman or sophomore in college? Me and my best girl

went as the undead founding Fathers. We just really good. Got some white wigs and where George Washington, Thomas Jefferson that with zombie makeup. Oh it's news. Well, speaking of we don't know how the election will go, or who will run, or how the midterms will go, and a

lot of that depends on what the Democrats do. Maybe we talk about our favorite Democrat, Kirsten Cinema, her wonderful Kirsten k Then the case in what do we call Kristen cinema fans, the Cinnamons, Cinnamons, cinematophiles, cinephiles, cinephiles, pretty good cinophiles. That's what. That's all right, We got it, locked it down. You know what we're done for the day.

That's it. By um, she's been doing great, she saying like it it's weird, uh watching all of this go down and being like, damn, Joe Mangin is better than Cirston's cinema. He really he really is wightless, Like yeah, because he actually when they accosted him on hit. Well not I think it was rad that they act up to his boat, but like he did engage with them.

Like if you actually watched the video, he doesn't come across badly in it, like he's well the thing about talking, Yeah, he talks to them, and he like engaged, Like I agree with that. There's an element of his approach that is at least clear. Um, I haven't. I mean I've an issue with both of them for many reasons, like I have no, No, this is not like praise. It's just to say that, like you compare him getting accosted on his yacht and how he handled it to Christen

Cinema in the bathroom. Should clarify before we talk about all these things that we're discussing protesters approaching senators and confronting them about during their day, during their day out, and about in their lives. Um, about their refusal to support the Build Back Better bill. Um. Yeah, as a context, Yeah, there's uh, they're they're the two holdouts currently um for this uh, this series of legislation that is uh supported

by the President and like most of the party. Um, it is it is a compromisire, It's it's a big time compromise. But this is like his legislative agenda. This is the thing that you want to point to with these mid term elections. And it's like bare minimum stuff in a lot of cases, but it is something and the idea of like whittling it down even more, especially when those two people try to do that or Democrats

especially the party agrees. Yeah, and the president was voted for under the understand and there's an there, well, there's an element of um of mansion and cinema that uh, it's it's there's no necessarily like principle beyond like whatever it is, but lower um. If this was a one point five trillion dollar bill, uh, mansion, would we need a trillion? We need to bring it down to a trillion. If it was a trillion, he'd want to bring it down under a trillion UM. It's arbitrary in a lot

of these cases. He just wants to say a lower number. UM. It's very frustrating to see and like corporate tax rate stuff. He his suggestion now uh to bring it down is like, uh, he requested a higher number years ago when the proposal was higher than that. So it is just a game of like that. But lower, just so I can say that I'm being reasonable, so I can say that I

did a thing. He like he's doing all of this so that he has like so that he has uh something to run on, like he's doing I look at the book at the power I X like, yeah, that's the only reason he's doing this. Yeah, it's very transparent. Uh and uh it's but at the at the very least, uh he says what it is that he wants from it. Uh. In all these uh cinema anti cinema videos, Uh, they're very clear like asks and like, UM, like you, what do you want to get rid of you want to

get rid of this? What we're gonna get rid of this? Um, if you get rid of this, this will happen to me and my family and all all these sort of things. And she will not ever say anything concrete. Maybe she says it behind closed doors with the president and her donors, but she doesn't like make yourself available or explain what she's going for beyond getting all of the attention. Um. And that's it's like extra frustrating that there's no open

conversation Arizona. It's also just so cowardly Arizona is of course very divided, narrowly went for Biden, and uh yeah, it's polarized there and she's making absolutely no choices. Well, she's making a choice, yeah, and it's not good for her. I mean, one of the things that's interesting to me is like mansion, and I think there's there's people who have talked about like his his the money he gets

from the coal industry. I'm sure he has a financial interest that's driving some of this, but I think probably the number one reason he's doing what he's doing is because it will be good for his um his reelection, campus it will make it easier for him to to run again and win. I don't think Cinema wants to win again. Um, I am not sure. Maybe she's like you know, maybe it's just it's very simple corruption where she's going to get herself a nice cushy job after this.

But like her approval ratings of Tank, this is not good for her in any way. Well right, and well, it's not good for her in terms of getting real, In terms of getting real, like, you know, I don't think she cares about that. It's good for her in terms of maybe being a pundent on Fox news. Well, that's the thing. Getting a consultant job at one of the firm her campaign lobbying. She will get at least you know, she'll have a book out about it all.

She's gonna like she's getting the attention at attention in addition to actual currency is currency. And she's uh, you know, breaking the bank with this, um, but not breaking up the banks because that would be that would be appalling, that'd be something that she'd want to do ten years ago. Um. Is amazing to me to think that at one point she showed up in black Block in Seattle at a fucking I think it was a w U t O protest, like not that long ago, years ago, not that long ago,

like a decade or so ago. There's changed. Christ, she made a million dollars, she became the thing that she get elected. I think that has an impact. I want to share this old quote from two thousand three, Uh kirston Cinema. In two thousand three, Joe Lieberman, at the time one of the worst Democratic senators, traveled to Arizona the campaign for his party's presidential nomination. It was regularly

greeted by anti war demonstrators. He's ashamed to Democrats, said the organizer of a protest outside of Tusson Hotel, a left wing social worker named kirston Cinema. Quote, I don't even know why he's running. He seems to want to get Republicans voting for him. What kind of strategy is that? Um? Truly seven years seven years later, you can find video of her complaining about people in Congress having healthcare paid for by taxpayers. But you don't have healthcare? Do you

have healthcare? No? Um? And uh it's good, A good point, kirston Cinema circuit. Again, not that long ago, so it's very transparent. What's sort of going on? And uh she on universal health care? We don't know, probably not definitely not in Arizona. Um, I just uh yeah. So so in response to this, in this frustration, she hasn't had a town hall in years. She is not making herself very available to her constituents um or communicating to the

public her intentions. Um. It's all the sort of backdoor stuff, which is very Congress of her. But um, that is why you see people you see like, okay, so you've got you got hundreds of thousand dollars from pharmaceutical companies and then you uh try to not get these prices down for pharmaceuticals. Uh. So it's very transparent what's going on. It's very clear how you get her ear, how you influence her, how you can get her to do things. And it's not vote for her, that's not how you

do it. You gotta give her a hundred thousands of dollars. So in that such ways, apparently not meet her in the bathroom either. Well, right, so like in that situation, what you're gonna see are people who want to have her represent them, like voters, um, who don't see that. And well, I don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars to give to her. So I'm going to follow her and ask your questions and then she's gonna go and

hide in the bathroom. And so I'm gonna go in that bathroom and I'm going to keep asking her these questions that she will not answer. Um. And it's just a very like I I you know, I understand the this sort of argument, even like there are other people in that video who had nothing to do with Kirson Cinema, who didn't want to be involved, didn't want to be recorded in a bathroom, Um, in which case I'd say,

like blur their faces or something. I understand that sort of like there's a there's an element of privacy for other people this conversation we had, but the crux of the conversation about her specifically, UH is UM. It's just like there's a lot of like uh pearl club and moralizing around Yeah, I mean issue people focusing more on that than the reason why people are confronting cinema and

trying to get her attention. UM are losing sight of the fact, losing sight purposefully ignoring what's that stake and what it means for so many people to pass this bill even if it's not what we really want, UM, because she doesn't give a ship. But she doesn't give a ship, so why should anybody care that she about about her being annoyed that they followed her in the bathroom? And yes, I also agree that I understand that it made the other people in that video uncomfortable that there

are some privacy conversations. Absolutely, but you know, you shoot your shot, doctor. It's the kind of thing that also then there are these other other videos of people doing this sort of similar thing. UM, But like in other locations, and it's all being sort of conflated, and now any time she is like you know someone uh went up to her on a plane uh and then the air at the airport and stuff, and like yeah, exactly, um, and also pretty calmly, like reasonable stuff. It's not like

they're not threatening her. They're not like screaming in her face there. Uh, you know, sternly asking questions in some case softly asking questions. Um. But it's not like they're not physically accosting her or anything like that. And so you get these other videos and then that is conflated and packaged together with like they went to the bathroom, that's an invasion of this, And so now it's like, well, then what do you want to happen? Um, what do

you want people to do? I will say there is a scenario where if she like, let's say, next time she goes into the bathroom, uh, if you wait outside and record her. Uh, that's also a pretty good video of her going into the bathroom and not coming out for an hour. Even she's she's just gonna hide. I could see you just waiting. Yeah, just wait, She'll come out. A fundamental level, it's the same question that you have.

You know, this was a lot this happened, didn't start last year, but you have a lot with protest where it's like, well, they're blocking the road for this protest and that's stopping like normal people from getting to work. And it's like, yeah, and that that sucks for them. And I I've been in that situation and it is frustrating, and you're not wrong to be frustrated. But like they don't know, there's no other option the case of the protests, the state has given us no other option. People have

to disrupt things. In the case of christin Cinema, she will not. She's she has provided no other way for people to interface with her, for her her constituents to question her right, So what else? What else is there to do? Um? And also a lot of these people who were like, don't do that this are the same people who said getting Mitch McConnell's face three years Um,

So pick a lane, I guess um. And also, uh, it's kind of thing that like the reaction is just gonna be like, well, we should have legislation that makes it illegal to to go up to Congress people. Um, I'm sure that won't actually happen, but I do suspect somebody will try to draft that up before it will happen again. All of this stuff keep going. I'm proud of you for all you, all you cinophiles and synophobes out there. Oh there's no here beyond saying it's time

to take a quick break. Ah. You know what, Kristen Cinema loves and together everything don't You're back. And it's it's worth noting that even Joe Biden was like, well, Kristin, that's just what happens in politics, and sometimes you're constituents like find you in the world and ask you questions. Um, it's so funny when that happened because there's like an element like the the original person who like tweeted it

is like some like right wing weirdo. Uh. And he cut off the phrase because like what Biden says, like I don't approve of that behavior, but that's what happens. That is the process. Uh. And so like you get all these people like sharing it like ha, this is

very hilarious to look at Joe Biden doing this. Then you get other people who are like, well, actually said he doesn't approve, So like you're misleading, and then you get other people who like, I can't believe uh just the words uh I I don't approve, but are justifying. It's okay for him to say this, like like everybody's

wires are crossed. It's really really funny to watch. It's really stupid, and the actual reasonable take is that like yeah, like it's his opinion is that they were being rude, but he's also accurate when he's staying like, this is just what happens. Like if you you don't have any right to complain about this sort of thing, it's just politics, Like suck it up, Kristen. It's really funny because like there is. It's just that there's something about Joe Biden specifically,

I think, where he's able to do that. Like he's been in politics for so long and people have this sort of like the weird like just sort of trust for him. Uh and like he's just he's so old and like done with stuff, and it's like that's what happens, you know, come on, come on, man, what are you gonna do? It was spoken like a real ground can It can be used for evil, for sure, but it is funny when he uses it for something like this, Yeah, it is. Should we talk about other things? You still

think to talk about your world? Are things on the planets? How about that oil spill in Orange County? Pretty bad? What There's been a huge oil spill in Orange County. I think it was a hundred and seventy thousands of Huntington's Beach and the beach there's the governor just declared a state of an emergency, state of an emergency state of emergency. Um. Um, it's pretty awful. Uh. They've already removed three thousand whatever's of oil from the whatever, but

like I said, a whole lot more. Yeah, it's a shipload of oil. It's going to kill a bunch of stuff, nine thousand shiploads of oil. Yeah, it's bad. It's it's it's another bad interesting um in the context of the like the monthly Facebook to vocals um and them knowing it's a fucking mess. And then this thing that this type of thing that's happened for for decades as well. Um, And uh, I'm sure it'll be fine, right you know, Oh oh, oh oh. I thought I was hoping it

would be fine. Do you think people will see consequences for this? I think it's fine. I think everything so dumb, dumb, dumb, the dumb. Yeah, it's how could how could one more oil spill matter? I'm not trying to be a dick about this. How could it possibly matter? Like in in a sense of like changing anything? For sure? It's another term to obviously it's it's killing the ocean, okay, damage, but like, how could it matter? People? An I well, okay,

I'm pitching one. Okay, Okay. Huntington Beach largely conservative Orange County. This oil spill is going to close their beaches for months and months and months. Yeah, so there is a world where this does change some opinions in Huntington's Beach specifically, at least for this time period. Is that answer? That's something that's that's n beach maybe changing some of their minds. Yeah.

But also in Oregon, you know, when we had our historic wildfires last year, before the historic wildfires this year, rather than being like, oh boy, maybe climate changes the problem, the conservatives set up armed patrols to attack the Antifa they thought were lighting forest fires. So I don't know,

I'm not sure. Maybe I'm in a bad mood today, So I am I'm I'm just not like, Yeah, I mean it should like every time something like this happens, it should be people being like, you know what, let's let's arrest a bunch of fossil fuel industry executives and take their money and destroy the ability of their companies to function because they're they're criminals, um, who are are endangering all of our ability to live. But that hasn't never happened before? Why start now? Why are we start now?

I mean, it would be rad if we did. But yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of answers to the y start now question, Yeah, but not a lot of not a lot of powerful starters answers. Do we have any good news to share? Um? I mean, oh so in in Portland, Alan's Whinny, who was the guy I famously had a standoff with at a giant street fight. Last year, I got convicted on a left and out of twelve charges repeatedly assaulting people and threatening them with a handgun. Of this lawsuit, I was no, no, this

was this was these were criminal charges. No. One of the articles that I helped write, uh did make it I being told did make it into the jury deliberations. Um and had an impact. But I can't even really take credit for that, because the thing that had an impact was Alan Swhenney carried around a go pro and filmed himself committing crimes and talking about committing crimes, and then he dropped it on the ground and lost it

and somebody found it stupid. When he went before the court charged with again repeatedly on videotape illegally assaulting unarmed people with a variety of weapons, one of his excuse for cocking, pulling, cocking, and pointing a handgun at a crowd of people without guns was that he had already shot four thousand paintballs at them and emptied two canisters of bear mace, so he had no other weapons. So of other weapons. Yeah fo yeah, I'm surprised he um.

That didn't work? It did? It did not. One of his other excuses because he shot someone who was not armed or wearing safety gear or in any way threatening him in the face, and that person, you know it, pressed charges. That was one of his assault charges, and his his his defense was, well, I didn't mean to

shoot that guy in the face. I was trying to shoot a different guy who was wearing a gas mask in the face, and I wanted to shoot him in the gas masks that he would take it off and I could make him just like he said, like he said this to a judge in a chair. He's just the stupidest fans. So did he represent himself? No, but I don't. I think his lawyer because I got to one of the real joys earlier this year was when we put together the article about his videos of him

committing crimes and talking about the crimes that he was. Yeah. I got to reach out to his lawyer and be like, do you have any statements on this? And never got a response, which what what could he possibly have said? I mean that sounds like a lawyer, right, Yeah. I think the lawyer may just have been like, you know what, Alan, take the stand, like I can do here, go do your best. I wash my hands. Yeah, yeah, if you if you really want to be up in front of the I I think part of it is like it

was live streamed. I think Alan thought this was going to be his like Kyle Rittenhouse, become a conservative like hero raise a bunch of money moment. If he got up and like talked about what a badass he was and his his battle with Antifa's. Um, I really do think that was like in his head, like why he was saying some of the ship he was saying as it was all about kind of being uh like this image that he's trying to put of himself as like

a conservative warrior fighting the communists. Um. It turns out that's a bad legal defense. And also it turns out that like nobody cared because this has gotten no national uh coverage, and it won't because nobody, nobody, None of the people that Alan like claims are his comrades give a shit about him because he's he's just a stupid asshole and they don't care. Great news. It's very funny. It's extremely funny. It's very funny. Once again, it's just funny. Yeah,

it's just really funny. Okay, it's okay, it's okay. You don't have to like qualify that you don't like the car serile state or whatever. It's just fine that it's like, yeah, it's funny. He's he's a stupid asshole who sucked his own life up for no reason. Um, because he's an idiot and fuck him, dummies, it's a fascist dummy who wanted to hurt people and he wound up destroying his own life because he's an idiot. And that's very funny, and it's okay to just be like, yeah, it's pretty

fucking funny. Well, I feel like that's a great note to end things on today. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I couldn't, but I just got a cramp in my legs, So now I don't know we should end it. It's fine. My leg was just giving its agreement. Yeah, it wants to get out of here fast. I have strong feelings on legs. Not sure we need them anymore, but that's a conversation for another day. It's interesting I would say knees or lessening, didn't didn't mean it at all. What

if we were just all knees? Oh oops, all knees. That sounds pretty sexy. Alright, guys, you could check us out online. That works your pod and we'll be back next week. Ye then clows your eyes and think of Nick Mainland World, England so dumb, everything, so dumb, and it's not again. I tried Dan. Worst Year Ever is a production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.