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Abortion in Texas, Bolsonaro in Brazil, and Fentanyl in Your Drugs

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Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart Radio, Welcome Together Everything. So don don hi, guys, welcome back the Blitz on the coast to coast September somewhere, So drink up, folks. Gobble gobble Cody. We should have done a time machine noise if you were going to go back and show us Cody Johnston radio shock jock in two thousand and one. I think I I think I think that guy never left h well, I think I think I think nine eleven just made that guy more powerful.

Nine eleven made that guy several members of Congress um well state Congress is at least um and vice president and vice president shi yeah yeah yeah, coat on the radio president and now we've got one as our gatorial potential governor. We should have death squads for that group of people. Said too much? But what if? What if? Just for the radio shocks. You know, some of these

old adages are overused. But there's a reason, there's a time and a place for a death squad, and I think it's hunting down everybody who was on the radio prior to and there are so now I could have been tricked into saying on this show that could easily come back to haunt me throughout the rest of my life. But here we are. Cliches are cliches for a reason, all right, because we will come back to haunt you or Katie. You could be come back to home, could

be you could be president, the next vice president. Pence put with better hair, one could hope, one could dream big the pens in the bear in the moment old like vocal style as well. Yeah, you know, rather be an MPR muppet. Thank you. What are we talking about here today? Guys and gal um, lots of stuff, guys and dolls. Brigadoon you want to talk about brigadoon? No? Oh you know? Um um diddler on the roofs are we naming? Naming musicals? Is there a fourth? Is the

fourth on anyone's talk the King and I? There we go. My my grandma just would listen to that on repeat while she was dying all the Oh yeah, I was gonna keep it playfully, but you brought it back down. That's my job to be. It's literally the only thing I do is the as the anchor, and the anchor that gives your spirits license to be dragged down to the earth and pummeled, you dragged, You dragged the boies down. You dragged the booies down. You know what today is

everybody speaking of things that are sad? Oh god, uh, it is the eighteenth anniversary of the death of my favorite songwriter, Mr Warren Zevon. I'm so sorry for your loss, everybody's loss. He was the best. I'm so sorry for our loss. What are some of his well his best known song is also his worst song, which is Where Works in London, which is a fine song, but it's

not nearly his best. It's probably in London. But he also did play it all Night Long, which which includes the line there ain't much to country live in sweat, pisches and blood. He did a Lawyer's Guns and Money. He did roll in the Headless Thompson Gunner, a classic karma Alita, one of the best songs ever written about being on heroin and going through a breakup. Um, you know, Carmelita, Hold me Tighter. I think I'm sinking down and I'm all strung out on heroin on the outskirts of town.

It's a beautiful piece of music. Are we going to start honoring the deaths of people we enjoy it. Just don't give a funk about anybody else. Yeah, keep Me in your heart for a while. Also a classic, My Ship's Fucked Up, one of the best songs about aging. He was a great musician, and I'm sad because he died. Oh yeah, the French in Hailer. Oh, such a good song. And yes, splendid isolation. I want to live all alone in the desert. I want to be like Georgia O'Keeffe.

I want to stay on the Upper east Side and never go down to the street. Oh man, I love Zevon. H m hm, alright, p enjoy every sandwich. Al Right, what's the news? Nine eleven is coming up? It is Did something happen on that date? Four days after he lasted A couple of years earlier later it was two three he died. Oh you know what did happen? Right around September, the movie Big Trouble with Tim Allen came out. That must be that must be what it is, And

nothing was ever the same afterwards. It really did, you know it really it really changed everything everything. Yeah, because that movie put together such a plausible picture of an airplane hijacking. We got the t s A in the Department of Phoneland Security. Never. I'll never forget that morning when it was released, when it was released, when Big Trouble, the adaptation of the Dave Barry book launched. Katie, Katie, Katie, girl, my love. You need to get up now, you need

to see this, You need to see berries. Patrick Warburton is almost naked in several scenes, you know. And I look back on that morning and I regret being like, fuck you, Dad, But he was right. He was right in retrospect, surprising that that movie got us into Afghanistan. It's while, yeah, honestly inexcusable. Yeah, should we together? No, thank you? Yes, Katie should probably talking about Yeah, we've warmed up, we've vamped really really just delayed the inevitable.

Should we talk about all the people dying from fentonel right now? Are we starting with that? Yeah, because it's it's short. So basically last week, three fairly prominent comedians died in a single night from tainted drugs. I don't think we know exactly what the drugs were. My guess as it was cocaine, maybe maybe k or something guessing much snort the powder yeah, um, but they got a tainted batch of drugs UM. And then very soon after they were at the same party. Yet they were at

the same party UM. Soon after it was it was Michael Williams was Omar from the wire UM incredible actor UM died of an overdose in his apartment. And what's obviously it's not more concerning when rich people died than when poor able die. But when you start getting the kind of drugs that that people with money have access to showing up painted, it paints to a really significant issue with the supply chain because these are not people. These are not folks who are like buying ship under

you know, a bridge or whatever. These are people generally probably buying from dealers they know, paying good money and used to getting stuff that is a high quality UM. And so if their ship is being cut with dangerous amounts of fentinlip points. And there's a number of reasons for this. One of them is that there's a shipload less UM boat traffic trade like trade because of the

pandemic and stuff. There's a bunch of like supply chain issues, so there's a lot fewer places for drugs to get smuggled in UM, which I think is why stuff maybe stuff is getting cut more. I don't think we know entirely, but there is the fact that this is happening so much to people who generally are able to protect themselves from from that kind of from those kind of problems points to a release significantly supply chain issue and the

only the closest thing to a solution. I'm not one of those people who thinks that you should just like say, hey, just don't do drugs and you'll be fine, because, like number one, if people are addicted to drugs, if you're addicted to heroin, you're you're gonna do. You're gonna do some fucking heroin and like understand the risk that comes with using the drug. Yeah, there's ways to mitigate the risks of fentinyl. One of them is um fentinyl test

strips UM. There's a couple of different places where you can get fentenyl test strips. Unfortunately, they are not um as as easy to get as common as other kinds of test strips. There's there's a number of organizations, including Project Dance Safe, that that provide test strips to kind of make sure that whatever you're taking isn't adulterated with anything. UM. Fentnyl test strips are harder to get, they are available. One place you can go to try to get test

strips is called test sure dot com. UM. You're gonna go to the section for re Agent test Kits UM and you can find a number of different test kits there. UM. You can look at UH the National Harm Reduction Coalition. They've got a fact sheet on the fentinyl test strip pilot. Again, it is harder to test for fentyl currently than you'd want, but there are a variety of testing kits available if

you're if you're in it's not super expensive. If you're going to do fucking drugs, um, please take care of yourself. And this is at the moment kind of the the only real option I think most people have, other than making sure you have Narcan and doing if you're going to fucking shoot up heroin, do it with a buddy, you know, and make sure one of you as an ARCHAELA. Yeah, UM, thank you, Robert. That's all really good and important information to share. UM. This is probably a really naive question.

I know that it is, but but um, are what are what? What are? No? UM? My question is fentanyl being cut into cocaine, something that we know as lethal, and people are doing it just to make money. Is this not something? Or is there are there times when it's not? You know what I mean? I I'm not enough of an expert on why why My my involvement allegedly in in industries adjacent to this was prior to fentanyl being super common, So I can't tell you. So I think some of it is just like cutting it

to reduce costs. But also a lot of the people selling this ship um are not the ones cutting it. In other words, it would have gotten adulterated before it got to them. And you know the thing that that those dealers doing that irresponsible is not testing their ship. You just think that you'd see a train of a trail of people that have died from the second this product gets out into the bix you know you do? I mean again, three in a night from a single party. Yeah,

there you go. It's part of it is that prior to it's getting worse, which is why you're seeing again rich people dropping um. But people have been dying, like Finnyl deaths as a result of tainted drugs have been increasing for a while. It's just been that's surrounded Tom Petty's death as well, I believe and Prince so everything. But I'm not positive about that. But I saw that. I think it was a prescription thing, but I actually, yeah, I I also do not know enough about that. That's

my disclaimer. But I did see it referenced in an article discussing fentanyl, so perhaps on some level, but anyway, everything fake vic and laced with fentanyl. Yeah, okay, okay, And yeah, that's it's it's strong ship. Like I get why you would lace fake vikating with fentneyl which is that you can't get access to real viking and but you've got fentyl, which is for one thing, because fentinyl

is so strong. Like always, the problem when you're talking about like smuggling this kind of ship is what's the what's the most potency you can transmit in the transport in the least amount of space, because that's easier to get away with, it's harder to get caught. You can get more dollar amount per amount of effort spent to

smuggle it. So you know, if you're if you're taking finnyl and making it into pills, a lot of times people wouldn't necessarily notice that they're getting fitnyl instead of viking in um, and you're able to like transport more make more money. The problem is that like generally what it is, it's not. It's not that like any FENTONYL tainted pill is going to kill you. I'm sure he took a bunch of like fake viconons that were really fentanyl that we're fine, but you get a hot pill.

You know, these are not being pressed medically under the question yes, okay, so it depends on yeah, okay, you can get what's noticed like a hot dose or a hot pill, which is just like because again, these are not being made under like lab conditions, like like the FENTONYL jip probably is being made in let, but the pills are not being pressed. Often they're being pressed in somebody's fucking house. Like there's people who do this and they funk up and you get um way too much.

And because FENTONYL Finnel is so strong, so you can get a large dollar amount smuggled over um with less effort in taking up less space. But because it's so strong, if you give someone a little bit more, it can be the difference between life and death. Um. One of the reasons why I take creatum and why I advocate for people who are doing painkillers to take cretum instead is that creatum does not like it has health consequences,

don't get me wrong, and it is addictive. It does not depress your it doesn't stop you from breathing, you know, um, which is bad to stop breathing, is it now? Okay? Oh oh, that's why this pandemic is so bad. Bringing it back around here. So yeah, this happened right after well, I guess the day after we recorded last week, but

SP eight has gone into effect in Texas last Wednesday. Uh, and it effectively bans abortion after six weeks of pregnancy, which is, of course, before most people know that they are pregnant. Um. Real quick, before we talk about this, I want to highlight that I said people, UM, I neglected to include this in our conversation on even More News last week, and I did mean to, but I'll even go ahead and admit that I wouldn't have talked

about it even enough at that point. And I think it's a really important point, which is that when we are talking about reproductive rights, we should be cognizant that this is not solely a woman's issue, right. I think we can all accept now that it isn't. There are trans men, there are non binary people who are capable of bearing children in the air just as much a

part of this conversation as as as as women are. Yeah. Yeah, and um, a few people pointed it out to me really nicely last week, and I want to be like, thank you, guys, thank you for for that constructive way of phrasing it, because you're completely correct, and uh, we should all be cognizant of that as we are navigating these conversations. And I understand that there's a lot of emotion here from everybody, from all sides, but we get

to work together and be respectful of this conversation. Nobody gets to be a fucking turf. Okay, Um, it's nice that they saw people. I just saw people pointing out and they it was very respectful and calm, which is rare for criticism. I think also because really you appreciate that, yeah,

and you're open to it and stuff. And like I said, I did intend to, but I wouldn't even broach the conversation in as big of a way as I should have, So I, yeah, I think that that's this is all part of our evolution and learning right now, and uh, it's it's really important. So we're talking about this. This is not just affecting women. It's all inclusive. Texas does not discriminate. Texas does not discriminate. Um, it's pretty shitty. What's happening? Um, it's it's Uh, it's pretty bad Texas.

Is that all we got? No, I mean it is all Like I, Cody, there was a beautiful moment last year. I think it was last year where you were starting to get optimistic about how the election might go in Texas, and uh, I said something along the lines of Texas will always disappoint you. Cody. Um, I remember that, and I don't want to. You know, there's there's a way people get frustrated with Texas that I think is is bullshit, which is kind of like throwing it under their bus, Like, well,

who cares what happens? And they made their choice, and like there's more people, more democratic voters, more liberals, more leftists in Texas than in many entire states they're dealing with. They're not I don't want them to die either. No, no, no, what I when I say Texas will always fail you

and disappoint you. I mean, Texas is a political uh being as a as a state will always always because because it was started by a bunch of slave owning psychopaths in order to increase their their personal ability to wield power over people. Um, and it is never not been that as a as a political unit, Texas exists to allow a relatively small number of white men to exercise violence and power over everyone who is not a white man in the state. They're doing a great job.

They're doing a great job. I fucked the When I say fuck Texas, I'm saying fuck the state of Texas, not not the people. They're not the you wanna you wanna like. There's lots of bad communities and people working, and I've like, in terms of like the activists and organizers have met in the US that I respect the most. Some of them are in places like Texas, in Mississippi, um in in Alabama and Georgia, um places where you know,

they're all filled with wonderful people fighting for human rights. Yeah. Um, but you're your sentiment of fuck Texas, but not the people is well taken and also kind of to the point here because that's part of the problem, uh with this law, in that there's nobody to sue. And we will get into this after the break you know, a moment. But but part of the whole debate about the legality of this is that it's unclear who you can go

after to enforce this. So it's open season. Uh, you get to have citizen reportings of anybody that they think might be aiding and abetting the criminal enterprise of abortions I'm sorry, abortions. But we'll get into that after this ad break together everything. Ah, God man, that those ads. Let me tell you, it was like you know that feeling when you're getting waxed and you just suddenly feel you know, that feeling getting wax every single day. Sophie's

hours a day for a full body. You're so hairy. For that, I'm seeing so much hair on you. It grows very quickly that hat. He just waxes his whole head off. I have what they call Robin Williams syndrome, by which I mean I'm doing a lot of cocaine. It's always testing his cocaine before he does it. We know. So yeah, let's let's talk some more about Texas. I want to call out TikTok and every good citizen who has flooded the tip line enough so that they've had

to change its servers. And then the bandwagon, yeah, take it down own completely, And now they're not sure how they're going to be setting this up there, going back to the drawing board. Maybe it's a bad law. I want to tell them, wherever you run, we will find you. And if you're one of the beautiful people. We had somebody who created a script in my sub behind the Bastard subreddit to like, flood help flood the Texas tip line.

If you're if you've been flooding them with bullshit, if you've been you know, working with anonymous whatever, you're any part of this effort to make it more difficult for that to exist. Thank you, you're doing God's work, doing a great job. Yeah, um, it's hardy to know. It

kind of happens every time there's something like this. You think they've learned by now not to have like anonymous tip lines, like when Crenshaw it's always in Texas to yeah Crenshaw did, Like I said that wokeness in the military tip line, like yes, call in if you've if you've experienced a wokenus M. I heard someone phrase that like what if it went the other way, that there was tiplines for people that we think shouldn't have X, y Z weapons or guns, and what would would that look? Like? Well,

it wouldn't fly. Um, yeah, that will never happen. So I did want to people keep what's going to happen? What's gonna happen? What are we going to do? I think that that's an important conversation that we don't know the answer to. UM. I continue is is we talked about this last week, but I will say it here now as well. My frustration in general with a Democratic party, with Biden failing to do anything significant or even attempt

to fight right now, we're not saying very much. I mean, there's some words there there he's saying they're going to but where has he been all of these months as it led up to this? UM and sorry, just just the Biden administration just sort of like these things happened, and like, oh, well it happened, We're gonna fight it. It's like, well you knew, we you ahead of time. Weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks. Um, no, I mean points very well taken and agreed with. Um. You

know what, people say, what can we do? What could democrats do? Well? We could actually have a serious conversation about the filibuster, We could have a serious conversation about the Supreme Court. We could actually be working towards that. And some people will shake their heads and laugh and say that that's not realistic, And I would say to them, why not? When will it be? If not now, when how long do we wait until it's all gone? Everything's gone? Until we can't fix it? I mean we already we

can't fix it. We have to, um, in a political sense, blow up the court. It has to not exist in its current Well, I mean I do agree. Is like so like like like why not? Like you guys have the power, you have the majority, and we might not have it for long. Look at what's happening. And it's like Dianne Feinstein, like we might the power shift could happen at any moment. But like you have the power, Like what what motivates voters to want to vote for

you again to keep that power? When you have that power, you're not going to do anything. It's the cycle. Um. If they don't do anything, then later on something will be threatened and they can say, if you vote for us, then we will stop the bad thing from happening. Um. And they just rely on people forgetting that they don't actually do ship. Although kudos Clobes into the limelight, plenty bold.

I know that's plenty bold, plenty bold Um. I wanna I want to say one thing that could be some line of hope for a potential way of proceeding that we could see play out. There could be an appeal to the Federal Court. I believe I should have written as down instead of just reading it real quick um, which would then make its way to Supreme Court eventually.

But the other way something could happen is if a provider goes ahead and administers and an abortion at like say ten weeks, and allows the suit to happen and goes forward, and then you appeal that and it can

make its way back to the Supreme Court. Because the crux of the what the reason why the Supreme Court is punting is as I suggested earlier, and this isn't very very basic terms that I can understand, is that the way the law was designed is that there is nobody that you can hold directly responsible, and there's no way to point out it's it's probably unconstitutional, but there's no way to enforce it, essentially, So you know, the Supreme Court was signaling their hand by going ahead and

deciding this and not letting it exist on the shadow docket. But there is a world where if it comes back and there's an actual lawsuit as I think that this law that I'm being sued under is illegal, that's another opportunity for them to revisit this case in the interim. What are we gonna do about the Supreme fucking Court in the interim. I don't know if that will happen, but that is a possibility. I mean, that's the what you do? You want it to be challenged. It's a

bad law. Um, yeah, so there is that. But in the meantime, in the meantime, it's it's it's effectively getting rid of abortion for for women in Texas. And let's be real, in very short order, Republican lawmakers across this country, in red districts in red states are going to be copying this law and it's evasiveness. They are going to be doing doing it for for for themselves, So we are going to continue to see this happen um and and of course there will be an actual ruling this

term that is directly related to Roe v. Wade. So obviously none of it's good. I've talked to myself down from my slightly positive there are things that can be done in the future, and obviously you know, uh support for organizations in in Texas who are helping people um when they can. UM. I do think there's there's an interesting quote going around today to to to your point, Katie about um, how you just brought yourself down and

now it's bad. Um. There's uh governor um of Texas abbot was he was talking uh being uh answering questions earlier today and someone's asking about the fact that, um, you know, uh uh pregnancies due to rape or incest um are also still um part of this law. And he his answer was that, like we're going to get rid of all the rapists. UM. That was literally like

what he said. He's like, well, well, we'll just like go after We're gonna go after all the rapists and they'll I'll be arrested and then that won't be an issue anymore, which is wrong for many many reasons also like why wouldn't you do that before? If you just do that, why didn't you Why before? Man? Yet, why why are you like if you're if you're trying to go after the rapists because of this law, why wouldn't you go after them earlier? Because rape is illegal? Finally,

finally someone is doing the thing. But also like so many you know, rapes aren't reported, um, and rape kits aren't tested. Like there's so many things about that specific answer, which is not good and presents uh sort of a false reality. Um. And it's just like like swapping the question aside, like well, we'll we'll do like precog ship,

we'll get will will minority report the rapist away or whatever? Um. But in in answering this, he says that the law provides at least six weeks for a person to get an abortion. He's saying it's actually it's fine the law. The law provides at least six weeks. No one pointed out at the time, and I don't see anybody really pointing this out. He doesn't say like, oh, you get six weeks, and then this he says, you get at least six weeks, like it doesn't. It doesn't specify like

that that it doesn't say six weeks. And in the actual law, I don't think it's like it's heartbeat based. But like he's saying, it provides at least six weeks because he knows that it's a bad law and that it's not actually very popular. Um, it's popular amongst the base and and things like that, but uh, he knows it's hard to argue in favor for it, like on camera, I think, in front of people. So he he pops in, he's like, well, at least six weeks, Like, well, not

six at least six weeks. It is six weeks, um. And I just I just found that very interesting, and I I'm I'm I'm, I'm yeah exactly, And like I'm I'm using I'm using it as a little nugget of false hope that I that this could just fall apart for them because I think they know that it's uh indefensible and in order to defend it's a non constitutional law. Right. In order to defend it, they sort of they have to lie and slip in these words to make it

not seem as severe as it is. Um. If he's saying, like well, yeah, at least at least six weeks when that's not actually true, then that's I think an indicator that he knows. Um not to say that like that's good, good things will come of it, but I think it is something to be aware of and watch for that they know it's indefensible and they can't and I do wish someone in the room point that out to him,

But that's fine. They were probably busy being like, way, did you just say you're gonna go after all the rapists now because of this? Yeah? No, it's not fine, but it's not. Before we move on from this, I just want to circle back around to that filibuster conversation because there's just one little point I wanted to to mention, Um, there is a world such a long shot, but you know,

I say we we we did eliminate the filibuster. You could pass the Women's Health Protection Act, um, and doing that would codify row into law, which would be good. But again, bringing this back around, that is contingent upon the conversation around the villabuster drastically changing into something that actually is supported by the Democratic institution. And I, aside from Klobush, are we don't know yet that that's happening, and obviously there's a lot of resistance to it. The

bold plenty bold. Uh yeah, we'll see about that. You know, Mansion and the cinemas of the world are always going to be There's some real a state agent named Mansion in my neighborhood and I keep seeing their signs and it's just like their name is really big, and I'm like, the fuck, I think it's a It's not a campaign sign though, it's just a real terror. So one thing I wanted to note, the episode of it could happen here about this will have dropped by the time this

episode comes out. Um. With the increasing restrictions on women's health access in Texas and Florida, looks like they're going to follow suit. I'm sure other states will try to push versions of this law. Reproductive health access. Yeah, self managed abortion is going to become even more necessary. Um. And this is the use of a couple of different pills to induce an abortion. And it's like the kind of standard protocol is good up to I believe nine or ten weeks, but you can do it further on

than that. Actually, it's just there's a different kind of amount that you have to take. We have a great UM interview on it could happen here on self managed abortion with UM a woman who's been who's been working on providing access in training for years. Her organization provides training to women or men who want to be able to train others in providing self managed abortions. There's information

on like where you can find these pills and get them? Um. The legality you know, it's going to depend on where you are, but you can also pretty much get the pills anywhere if you if you look into it enough. UM, So, regardless of what the state of Texas says, you can get yourself access to medication that will allow you to help yourself and others take control of your reproductive health. Thank you. I think that's a really good points and

valuable information to share. Slight correction, you said women's reproductive health, right, just say, but that's part of this. It's like, let's let's start to be aware, you know, UM, all right, what else we got guys? Shall we take one other quick break and then let's break it up speaking of pills, will be right back after another for pills five pills together? Everything, don't oh we didn't officially come back from break, but maybe we've been back from break by the way back

some good news. Mexico just to criminalized abortion, which is there the world's second biggest Catholic country. Kind of a huge deal. Actually yeah, um, so that's me. Border any states? Um, no one knows, actually, Cody, the borders of Mexico are a longstanding mystery. Scientists have debated this for thousands of years. Okay, well they should work harder. I think there are vortexes or something. I don't know. Um, shall we talk about Brazil, Robert,

I love Brazil. Uh in Panadas, in Bandina's Uh, that's it. Yeah, those are great things. Jaca biscuits. Oh my god, Oh my god, I love Yucca. Oh it's so good. Yeah. Yeah, So I don't know. Is there anything else going on in Brazil. You're the one that pitched it as a topic, so that doesn't sound like me. Yeah, And according to Twitter and the news, yeah there is. Yeah. Well, Brazil's main exports and imports uh land mass also, I mean the main export of Brazil is JayR Bulson jar pictures

of JayR Bulson Yaro dying in the hospital. The main import of Brazil is medication to keep JayR bulson Yaro from dying. Quite quite the equilibrium they have going on there. So that's what we call a symbiotic relationship. Yeah, the world's sickest man, JayR bulson Jaro, in between repeatedly catching COVID nineteen and having ships sucked out of his nose through a tube, UM is also and is about is dealing with the fact that Um, his administration is kind

of coming apart a little bit. So Brazil has the world's second highest COVID nineteen death toll. Um. It's it's his response to the virus, which has been denying it exists, denying that the best medication for it exists, and telling people to lick each other. UM has not worked. UH, and it's kind of a fucking disaster. His popularity has taken a real significant hit. UM. And this is coming

on the heels of fact. So the person who preceded him, UM, or one of the people who preceded him, Lula, the former president of Brazil, was like jailed for corruption and then it was shown that he had not done the things that he was jailed for. Was it was all bullshit, UM and Lula seems likely to enter the race. UM and poll suggests that he would. He would beat the ship out of JR. Bulson Narrow. Um. So it's not

a good time for for Bolson Yarrow. And this is compounded by the fact that the Supreme Court of Brazil has been throwing some haymakers towards his his far right movement, which, like all far right movements, seeks total control and the ability to act exercise unchecked violence over their opponents. Um, So, what's a haymaker? Give me the etymology, the big old punch old like that. Yeah, it's it's a yes. I mean, it's how you knock someone into the hay they pass out,

you know whatever. That's how you make bricks in minecraft. Yeah, it is adding a lot to this conversation. I mean, I'm not I'm not. This is I'm just starting to dig into, like what's kind of happening here. I'm not an expert on on the present situation, but the gist of it is that the Supreme Court UM, particularly the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court UM, has issued rulings that have led to the jailing of a number of Bolson Yarrow supporters for financing and inciting violence, um and

attempting to know do overthrow the government ship. And while this has been happening, like his son, Eduardo has been repeatedly talking about how awesome the insurrection on January six and the u S could have been and like how it could have been done better. Um. And this is but he was there, right, He wasn't there And I don't think he was there in January Tomorrow's son. I I thought, Okay, was he? I know that he has He and Bolsonaro have ties to Bannon and they've been

talking to Bannon. And a former Trump administration official was just in Brazili talk yeah, and was detained by the Brazilian government for probably trying to help Bulsonnaro and his family carry out a coup. It really seems like that's why, right, Yeah, it does seem Eduardo bulson Aro doing in Washington during the January six coup. I don't think he was at

the writing. I think that he was in watt There is something that you know, and he was praising it, but also yes, saying that, And that's to the point. This is a this is a global far right power grab. Right. They tried it on January six. They're trying it now,

um in Brazil. And so basically there's been this movement among the far right Brazil to to literally hold a military coup that boson Narrow himself has explicitly endorsed that, like, yeah, let's you know, let's take power basically, And they held a big march today. Um. That seems like it's it's gone more peacefully than expected. There was a lot of worry about this that they would actually try to storm and take over the government. Boson Yaro expected to get

two million supporters. He only got about a hundred between a hundred and ten, a hundred and twenty five thousand, um. Because again these people are always way less popular than they pretend to be. Um. But boson Naro has also said that, um, he's no longer going to abide by rulings from the Chief of the Supreme Court. Um. Yeah.

And so basically like saying I'm going to see, you know, during the re election whatever the court says, like fuck it, I'm not listening, um, which is a problem in a democracy. There's a lot going on here. Um. But it is again doing these things that are like it's Trump but less dopey He's like, yeah, like it's the trial balloon. What balloon was Trump and his and his silly incompetence. Yeah, and it's like there's a bunch of fucking so yeah.

So this is what President bulson Yaroson Edwardo, who is also a congressman, said about the storming of the US capital in January six. Quote, if it had been better organized, they would have taken to capital and made specific demands previously established by the invaders. Um. Yeah, and he's he just on August fourth met with Steve Bannon, uh talking.

We had a great conversation. We share the same worldview. Um. He's said to be an enthusiast of bolson Naro's campaign, and we are certainly in touch to join forces, especially

against cultural Marxism. I found guys. On the evening of January six, before Congress had finally completed the certification of Joe Biden's elections as US President, Eduardo Bolsonaro posted a photo himself beside Trump supporter Michael Lindell, saying kids to meet Michael Lindell, a former news jocking out successful bustmasman in the US and Mike Lindell of course very integral to it. So that's where I got it. No, No,

that's that's good. That's good. Con And so Jason Miller, the former Trump advisor, was in Brazil for the Brazilian c pack, which again this is the point, like this is a global far right power graph these people. And he was on Steve Bannon Show the day before he was detained talking about how he'd been with the bolson Yaro family, like, um, and fucking Eduardo bolson Naro was just photographed and I believe it looks like he's in a helicopter, um. Yeah, and a helicopter wearing a Project

Veritas shirt. Um. Like they're all it's it's a global thing that's coming together here and they are they are iterating, and again, maybe it doesn't look like it's gonna work. This coup is gonna work is time, you know, with bolson Yaro, who knows, maybe he'll lose reelection, maybe like a cat eat his liver or something. Yeah, they're gonna keep trying, and they're going to keep altering their tactics and experimenting with things. And it's not enough to just

be like, well they failed again. This is clearly never going to be another problem, Like no, they're they're learning, they're gonna they're gonna fail a little less than they're gonna fail a little. We're actively watching them learn. They're not even hiding it. Yeah, we all need to be

on guard. Finish water, like says he says it in the in part of that quote that if they were better organized and prepared, they would have had the power to kill the Congress people they despise um like he says it, They're like, yeah, just do it better next time. People organized, be more prepared, have clear goals. That was the lesson. And when people tell you who they are, but yea of them yeah, as a as fucking um Hans No, no, no, um. I think it has a

little He was. He was a German lawyer who put Hitler on trial immediately prior to the Nazis taking power, and like one of the uns litten. One of the line he repeatedly used as Hitler was kind of him and on hawing about whether or not he encouraged violence was don't listen to him. He's telling the truth, right, don't listen to him, like, don't listen to these like justifications he comes up with, like listen to like when he says these horrible things that he later comes o

that was a joke, that was an exaggeration. That's not like listen to Like, these people are very clear about who they are. Um, and they always have a separate line that they can give you to try to make it sound like they're less extreme and less dangerous. But like, listen, look at their actions. They're telling you who they are. They want to take total power and they want to fucking kill anybody who doesn't want them to have total power.

And their their goal, whether they're the fucking Republican Party of Texas, joy your Bolton Yarrow's supporters, the Proud Boys wandering around beating people in the streets of Olympia, Washington. They want the ability to do unchecked violence to people they disagree with. It is about exerting force. That's all it is. That's all it's ever been. Um. And you can either let them do it or not. But you can't just ignore them. God it's yeah or pretended um.

And it's hard um, you know, m hm, it's hard to see people. It's like I I see this in like relationships and just different dynamics across the board, like You're like, that person can't possibly be that evil person, couldn't possibly have this kind of worst intention. Yes, they can and they do. They can and they do. They can't possibly be willing to kill people over this. They can and they are. You know it. Yeah, And it's

the people. It's like the people who say, I have a lot of respect for certain kinds of pacif ism, um, because there's a lot honorable about the actual if you read the actual intellectual traditions pacivism. But the people who say, like, violence doesn't solve anything, like you shouldn't arm yourself, you shouldn't be prepared to use force against against your enemies, because that makes you as bad as I'm like, no, no,

no violence. Violence will solve you if if you aren't if if there's no force on your side to protect you, violence will solve the problem of your existence. And your existence is a problem for the fascists, and they will solve that problem using violence if you don't have the ability to exert force against them, and you can't rely on the fucking cops to do it, um, because a

lot of the cops agree with these people. They can Yeah, um, you you we are we are not in the We are well past the point being able to hope this genie gets put back in the fucking bottle. We are well past the point of voting this problem away. There are I'm not and I'm not saying forces even most of the solution. It's actually not most of the solution at all. And I think you have to historically, if you're analyzing the flaws of pacifism in combating fascism, you

have to analyze the flaws against militant anti fascism. Right the anti fascists in Germany, that modern antifa type people um idolized. They're obviously people to respect because they stood up against the Nazis. They also lost. So we shouldn't just be like the The solution to the problem of fascism is multifaceted. Um. But you do have to have

the ability to use force on your side. Um. Just like it's not you know, for all the critiques we have about the military industrial complex, it's not worthless that when Trump called upon the Joint Chiefs to send the army out to murder protesters last year, General Millie was like, no, it's good. It's good that there's it's good that even if you don't agree with them on nine things out

of ten. There are people with a lot of weapons that they're back and call who were willing to look at that guy and that those orders and say no, that's fucked up. Um. It's it's there's a there's a gap in the ability to do violence right now between the far right, um, and in people who are not

the far right. And even though the far right is of the population at most, if they're the ones with most of the guns and they're will all willing to kill, they'll win well, right, because it's not just the weaponry necessarily, it is there desire to kill. It's the there is and this you know, not every single person obviously, but like there is a thirst for violence, um. And that thirst is very powerful, especially against people that don't necessarily

have that thirst. It seems quite bad. Yeah, yeah, but I don't know. Again, eventually a bird we'll eat both of narrows Organs and then he'll become even more powerful. I'm sorry, was that established earlier? You say again, I mean, I think he's attacked by an emo at some point. I did not what I did not know that story. Yeah, he was attacked by an emom his body is eating itself. Um, you know, good ship. He sounds like a really healthy

individual all around. Got other stuff. Guys, we've we've petered into the end here happening progression of just like we're done. I was like trying to find something fun to pivot around too. I don't we're recording a little later in the day. Do you have evening plans? I have an impossible amount of work to do. To have an impossible amount of work to do. Um, but I you know, I got I. I recently moved into a new living situation and I now have a little urban farm with

a number of other people. And I spent my weekend pressing apples and pears and making sixteen gallons of of of cider that's currently fermenting. And then we took a shiploaded pounds of tomatoes which we can uh, and made a bunch of pickles to canned. A bunch of pickles. Um and plum butter from plums. Uh. That sounds so wholesome and fun processing food and storing calories. Yeah. Yeah.

At the place where I live. Um, and we we have a we have a problematic amount of eggs from the chickens at the moment, like a it's become an issue, like I we cannot consume the amount of eggs that we are producing. Can you sell them? I don't want to sell them. We give away a lot, But I

think I'm going to experiment. We're gonna experiment next with pickling the eggs because that way that we're also able to produce, you know, on on premises and store our own protein long term, which will be neat pickling eggs. I've never heard of that. Yeah. So if you've ever had like really good rama and it will often have like a pickled egg in it, like in the Good Rama. Yeah, but so how long can you store it like that? I mean you can if you're actually properly canning it right.

You can do like the lazy kind of pickling where you're kind of just like throwing some vinegar and cucumbers together and that will keep in the fridge for like five or six weeks. But if you're properly canning, where you're like heat treating and all that, ship, you can go a couple of years if you're doing it right. Even an egg, even eggs, wow, yeah, if they're pickled, Yeah, if they're if they're properly pickled all in my mind. Man, we are pivoting to a whole different type of podcast here,

and I'm into it. Yeah, I mean it's it's it's exciting stuff I enjoy. We only have about an acre of of land to work, but that's enough to produce a significant amount of food. I really love this for you. This sounds like you're really healthy, decompressing activity for you to balance out your workload, and it makes me really happy. And thank you for sharing that story. Yeah, you know, it's nice. I've been I've been advocating. You know, I've always had I've had a garden for years, and I've

lived on farms off and on across my life. But the last few years I've been living in a very very tiny um place, uh and and was not able to engage in some of the like as much as I would talk about, you know, um gardening and in different kind of resiliency options and building you know, ways to kind of be more less less dependent upon the supply chains and stuff. I was really more reliant upon just being able to buy and store food and stuff

than I wanted to. And it's it's very nice to be able to kind of live more of my ideology and gain learn new skills and kind of gain additional independence from from the grid in the system in that kind of way without dropping out of society and living in the woods. Sophie says, I'm not allowed to do find finding the right balance, and I find it very inspiring. Yes, Katie, he does all right drop phrases like I'm eating grapes on the lanai. Now I have a lanni? That is

what's a lani? Lani? It's it's a fancy word for porch. He does say things like that. Now, well have to have any like are there any like specific uh features? Yes, that make it a lani? Yes, And you can refer to the documentary The Golden Girls. Reference the Golden Girls often now suddenly just just with the increased in gardening. Yes, m h m hm, great beautiful. Ye can see you is a little bit of a b Arthur, thank you, thank you, Thanky are you a scarlet or Miranda? I'm

a Scarranda. I was gonna say, you know what I respect about that show is how recklessly horny everybody was. They were just fucking didn't did not hide it. M I mean, we'll look back on women's sexual liberation being tied to sex in the city. Didn't hide a single come m hm, not one and that feels like the end of the show. We didn't boy, howdy did we do it? Check us out online, Out, Where's Your pod? And breaking News, Choke on a turtle. He will be

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