Trump gets NATO to cough up
Jun 25, 2025•10 min
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Episode description
As NATO leaders gather in The Hague - edging towards an historic 5% defence spending target - their focus is on Donald Trump's influence, and a continuing land war in Europe. John Lough - a former NATO official and now Head of Foreign Policy at the New Eurasian Strategies Centre unpacks how this summit has unfolded.
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