Jesse Rucinski - Veteran, Podcaster, Artist

experiences and what led you back to podcasting because when we talked about it's been over a year now, huh, since you're on last it was a year?

really get anything together. And now all this now all of a sudden, everything's just kind of coming like it's working. I got to understand what you think for what you know happened that that really led to that change and getting you back to where you need to be.

it than it was just to get a doctor. Yeah, the last four years, it's amazing how that happened. Yeah, it's actually kind of funny if you think about it. But for four years, I mean I had three primary care doctors, and that includes like the year and a half it was eighteen to twenty one months.

Like never I needed an X ray or anything. And I saw him he's like, cool, it's in go. Because I literally, like at one point, was arguing with doctors like can we do the X rays when I'm going down to see neuro and like we'll talk about it your next appointment, Like yeah, but see that's like two weeks.

I'm gonna be there next week because it's down to Wilmington, so it's like an hour or so away, you know, so I'd like to do the X rays well I'm down there instead of seeing you guys week after in the driving back to Wilmington, and the response was we'll talk about it in your appointment, okay. And I told my neurologist and he's like, cool, it's in go. Thank you because they can apparently all see each other's direct messages that we have through there, so they can read

everything we're saying. He's like, go, thank you. But uh yeah, it absolutely sucked. I couldn't get anything done and miraculously, I mean I don't find it to be a coincidence because the the first four years I was in absolutely sucked. Then there was this four year period where suddenly things were starting to roll again to include all the surgeries and I got run over. You everything I needed during

COVID there was physical THERAPYOC and everything I needed. Then there's four years of nothing and I don't find it. And since then this year, just you know, since February, I got to go see the urologist. I mean I had to drive all the way to Richmond, but you know, I got to see them, the endochronologist, all of them, and got testosterone treatment from yeah, to replace everything because I was down at barely one hundred and the average

is way above one hundred for my age group. So I got that taken care of, which I think is taken care of you. It's nice when your body feels like it's healing. It's good to have energy and not feel like a zombie all the time. It's not necessarily the funnest stuff for the injection to walk around for a day, but yeah, that got done. They sent me to a chiropractor finally, which is fantastic because I was arguing for that for years, and they got me a

elymphatic drainage. You know, Lympho Press machined all the compression to help get rid of all the swelling, because I think I sent you pictures of the swelling, like at one point, if they could just sent you one of like my left leg, it was all blown up. So they got that and that took care of that problem, which you know, God bless them. They got me in for chiropractor again. Like I said, I'm going back to me. I got my head taking care of this. I think I go back to him next week.

with Trump's second term. Here at the start of the second term, that's when you did you start to notice it then or was a little bit down the line. I'm trying to understand what made the difference, because it's like, why, why should caring for veterans ever be politicized or prioritized differently depending on who the hell's in office? Like that doesn't make sense.

they were literally taking stuff from us. But it was a regime change, like I noticed it, yeah again in the first four years as a headache to do anything, and everything wasn't perfect, you know, under Trump's first term obviously, you know, and if you can look at you know, just basic numbers though, like where the veteran suicide rate was, Like it did go up a little bit as first year,

a little bit of second year. But then in nineteen and twenty, even with yeah, all the lockdowns and isolation and all of that, like, we had our two biggest drops. Like ever it might have been, I couldn't even tit it last time. We had back to back drops of that big and then we almost went right back to it the first year under Biden, and then in case

anybody's curious look it up. They haven't reported anything since twenty one, which tells you exactly how everything was handled for all of the can't some Port Trump and saying some Port veterans, Yeah, at least Trump let us know how many of them were. Yeah, how bad the situation actually was, which is, well, a lot of my liberals friends are gone on Facebook, but God rest their souls,

they can't help themselves. But yeah, it's totally regime. Like there were four years where I was like, was the Cares Act where they said if we can't get help within thirty days, we can go in town And I literally when I was trying to get I don't remember who the hell it was at this point. I argued with them for so long but might have actually been Ortho. But like, the closest one we have is like six

months from now. I'm like, yeah, but the Cares Act and she was like yeah, no. I was like, it's still the last time I checked, they didn't get rid of that. She's like yeah, but no, I was like, yeah it is. You're like no, And then I was like ever just schedule the damn thing some thing. And this time I mean like I've I mean, I forgot the consult went in, go do the acupuncturists. Just because they've been calling me for so many damn things lately. It's a very odd change of pace to see the

VA's number pop up on my screen that much. Yeah, Like they call me in, They're like, oh, I can't do anyone in the network. The closest persons in Newburn good enough for you. I'm like, yeah, I'll drive a half hour, four whatever, I'll go to Newburn, like you know.

god damn, where was this it was?

I'm like okay, and then like they did the confirmation text in the afternoon like before, and then like at seven thirty that night, suddenly I got the canceling thing. You know, we have to reschedule you because the and that happened like three times, and I called him like, there has to be someone else that you could just send it to well, because they keep canceling the day before like and then they just stopped responding all together.

So that was, uh, my eye doctor fighting that's not really a fight anymore, but arguing with optum because I scheduled my doctor appointment about this time last year. I'd say, except it was for you know, this year, Like you can go back to the say my doctor about us to be next summer. Let's cool. Whatever. Yeah, I'm not desperate for glasses, but just because of where I've been there enough times, they have all that. You know.

we've got people living on you know, assisted living. How this is like medicare whatever, you know, any government assistants that aren't veterans that can call and get their treatment and get things paid for or get you know, a large percentage paid for it without a problem. But if you're going to the VA, the channel you're supposed to go through as a veteran, it's like you got to jump through hoops to make it happened. Yeah, it's it's good,

you guys. I mean, it sounds like it's turning around finally, But the lack of accountability and admission to their fuck ups is ridiculous, like just acting as if no, it was always we're always here for you.

a lot of what you went through. I mean, it's not just care for pain management, you know, there's there's also mental health. There's so much stuff that that people need, and like, for you, it affected your life all the way around. I'm not going to I mean you're not. You tell people whatever you want. But from what I know from when we were texting or when we were communicating, et cetera, is you kind of like you needed your

own time. So you kind of like pulled away from these things you love to do because you didn't feel you're in the right space to you know, push forward. Example, you backed off on the podcast, you backed off, even on your art work. You got back into it, I see, you know, even sending me a picture. You got some cool stuff going on, some great pieces. But it's like kind of shrunk back away because you're of the frustration from not getting the help you need. Yeah, and then.

was a lot of just headspace stuff. And then you know, I didn't want to do anything, and you know, neurological stuff on top of it that I was, you know, and again I can't say anything bad about minrologists. He was trying. He was doing everything, but there's only you know, so much that one man could do. And I was getting you know, I mean, the glare was getting me.

Bright lights were really getting me, you know, my neck was Thankfully again they got me into chuiropractice, so my neck, They got me to see real doctors and imaging and stuff lately, so my next Yeah, functioning, It was just a total collapse of anyone being able to do anything or caring about anything.

I mean, I'm pretty sure we met. I told you I was going to do all kinds of reclaimed wall, you know, wood on the wall behind me. I was going to do all this stuff, and then one day I literally came in here and if you didn't notice, the walls are very very like I packed it all up in the garage. One day she came in, She's like, what the like what I don't even want to look at it. Like I was so detached from the world. I everything's sitting out And do you think definitely, oh yeah,

there was definitely it's it. And thankfully now yeah, I have getting a therapist. Finally took him fucking two years. But yeah, like they just everything compounded between you losing some of my marines, the health stuff, family stuff, but thankfully. Yeah, I don't care about the family stuff, but you can't fix stupid, right, Yeah they're going to hate.

is going to happen next? And every time you turn around there's another fucking next.

if people like to talk to, I have doctors. Again, it was really the big doctor thing, like that was just the most depressing part about all of this. Didn't like at one point it was literally there wasn't even anyone to reach out to for like a year and a half, and when they tried to send me in town again, couldn't get meet anyone preaching out often to even stop trying.

one cared, so why should I?

The hell it was, Nichs ran like a balloon. And the second, I mean, once I started getting the stuff for that, so my leg because they measured it, like because they send a lady, you know, the gear's the machine, she has to come over and show you how to use it. I'm like, I know how to use it, you know. To me, her laughed like it's amazing, how like it's amazing, how bout you guys are doing now? So suddenly she's like, yeah, it's funny how that works out,

isn't it. We had a good but, you know, just getting stuff done because what I want I remember who it was. I think it was the chiropractice the first time, and that was on a small swelling day, Like my left leg on average was still just from the above knee down was on average like five inches bigger that day, like everywhere, and that didn't include foot, like it was

just gigantic and it hurt and it sucked. And the second we started taking care of you know that that took you know a lot of it away.

and I know other veterans do. But you know, there's not enough people that talk about it. That's why I wanted to talk to you about this. It's good for people to hear what actually happens because a lot of people assume, oh no, it's they're well taken care of. And then there's also there's also the it's still kind of lingering. It's it's changed a little, but there's still the anti you know, anti service person support. It's like suck the military. Those guys. You know, I don't believe

in what America is doing, so we don't care about them. Ridiculous.

and I'm telling you to stomp that. But suddenly I was the word like the Antichrist. Even though we knew each other for like almost thirty years at that point, I like whatever. But we'd have arguments where he would be like barking about how bad veterans got treated. But this is how you know he's a liberal because he was then also well pitching about that. We talk about how the government needs to take care of you know, everyone deserves health care through the government and let them run.

It's okay, So you're mad because they can't take care of a handful of us and we get treated like dirt. But you think they should handle over three hundred and thirty million of us. Yeah, that's how you know you're a liberal. What they can't They're taking such bad care of the twelve of us that there is.

He's always there doing stuff about it. Like even if it feels like it's getting nowhere, what you not saying anything? But that's one last voice saying anything about how we've been treated for the last you know how X amount of eaters I mean since Vietnam that's getting Which is why I want to make a T shirt that says, like the VA killing who the d D couldn't since in whatever fucking year they were born. I would wear

the shit out of that shirt. I wear it into the VA every time I walked in there the VA, finishing the d d's job since they don't give a damn batutas. But uh yeah, like you got to just if you're out there near veteran, you got to keep it up. But you got to keep telling people don't give up, no matter how much of a headache it is, because every voice lost it just makes it easier for them to keep just running through us like we don't matter, and that that doesn't fix a goddamn thing at all.

So don't lose faith. It's hard, God knows it's hard, but don't do it. Please, for the love of God, don't do it. Every voice matters, you matter. Don't let the pricks off that easy. I approve said.

here's the facts behind this. Let's not conflate shit, let's not try to sugarcoat it. Here's the reality. I don't even know where to begin, but you've been you've been on a tear lately with your with your show, which I like, well, actually I know where to begin. Let's do this as you're a Trump supporter, right and I

want to get your assessment on what's going on right now. Everybody is kind of holding his feet to the fire for the Epstein debackle, and now there's a big push by the Democrat Party, the leftist to basically try to drive home that he's on the list, he's a pedophile on this is the only reason that nothing's happening and there's no list being released, but completely also ignoring the fact that there was a nearly two decade investigation into Epstein.

Josey Maxwell was arrested because of evidence that she was involved in what was going on, and beyond that, she was the one finding underaged people girls to send to Epstein.

So they have this connection and all this evidence that they suddenly don't have that The Democrat Party for all these years, could have pushed that Trump, being such a major figure, whether he was in politics or not, was always a popular billionaire at any given time, they could have pulled the plug on this right Why now, Like what's going on and what's what this rift going on with the so called MAGA side of things? And you know, we'll get into MAGA later because I think people are

getting away from what MAGA actually meant. It's not everybody thinks it's just Trump. Well he coined the term, so that's what it is. But I believe represents, you know, something bigger, but regardless. I mean, let's get your thoughts on this Epstein debacle light where do you stand and or what do you know and what do you think on this?

get it out of the way. If he was on it, we would have known. So let's stop that argument. Already they've proven that they're just slimy, shitty people, and if they got them, they would have got them already. There would have been the gotcha two.

the thing, fuck them, get them. But I think there's a lot of people that you know, weren't involve any of it, that we know had business dealings with him, you know, outside of his creepiness, that would get you know, thrown up into the stupidity of it all. No matter what, you're ruined just because everyone's been on yeah, him being like those paintings behind me, they're not going to hang themselves anyway.

names out there. I'm sure there's giant names out there, you know that we'd never hear, like the whole thing anyway, it's one of those will know, but we'll never I just don't think they'll ever, you know, if there's really royalty from overseas and princes and all like, we're never going to see, you know, the whole entire thing. People like heads will actually explode.

similar to what you're saying. I think I think there were world leaders deep into this shit and they haven't moved forward with exposing anything to the degree that America's looking The American people are looking for because it can really up and geopolitical connections and relationships throughout the world. But would you agree that if that is the case, say like fuck it, Like is it not time for a reset and to hold people's feet to the fire.

And punish them for all of this, all this heinous you know, all these kindness acts.

Maxwell has to come and testify and all that, and they finally get him so strung up that he's like, fine.

deserves it?

was terrible and why is he doing this? I'm like, you know all you people do by running the sun, and then they believed it and I got yelled at for it, like it don't like Christ, Like yes, what if they were doing it now, it's probably worse for us with the troops over there, And if they weren't doing it, it's still bad for the people over there,

Like you stupid fucks, don't they don't think. They just hear and they and they just have to go and go and go, just like they're saying birthright, like Trump's kids have to go. Because Malonnia wasn't a pseudoiciden, it's like he still was done, done done.

It's like, who were his fucking clients? They weren't gathering them, and they didn't run a business, which is what they were doing. As as shady and bad as it was, Jesse abhorrent, they weren't doing it for nothing if they didn't have fucking clients. And in that type of situation, unfortunate people don't want to hear this. But in sex trafficking, there are repeat clients, like non repeat clients. It's not

just random people they find on the dark web. So they know your two years, not two your sorry, two decades long investigation. And suddenly it's all bullshit and and it's all about, oh, well, they're not releasing because Trump's on the list. Like you said, with the flight logs, those have been public for years. I mean, Bill Gates is on their fucking Chris Tucker, I mean, think about it.

There's so many people on those flight logs, but no one's looking at them right, and then one more thing justin then here's the other thing, because I'm sure you know about this. The other thing I have to say about this is why now, all of a sudden, we

have all these people like now specifically now, after all these years, all these people coming forward, Trump rape me, Trump touched me. I'm victim number twenty seven, I'm victim number thirty. Like, doesn't it all seem very theatrical and organized and played very intentional?

here's the talking point. And somehow or like when them crats were coming out with all those spontaneous videos and somehow they were all saying the same exact thing, perfect tempo, perfectly. They were all, it's all you know thing, but again her,

you know her, and the client list goes into my big you know thing because you know, they got it for trafficking et cetera, et cetera to apparently no one.

I'm hoping that they're just using that again. What my dream scenario is that it's just a big game of chest to get all the idiots to be like, we need to know, and he's like, okay, but remember, I mean, we also just saw a court case where did he got hit for you know, traffic being people across state lines for sex, but then didn't get charged with sex trafficking, which is.

hoping that just for the grand scheme of the world is going to be the biggest game of chess and the biggest gotcha of all time.

and having them play right into his schemes. Really, so like they still don't get it, They still don't get it.

I I'm with you, though, Look, if Trump's on this list, if he's truly part of this, I don't give a fuck if he's Trump or not, I don't care to me. If you're abusing children, man, and and and and you're using them for sex and sex trafficking and making fucking kittie porn, then you need to burn. I don't give a fuck who you are. I don't even care if you're Trump. I don't care if you're Obama Clint. I

don't care. Like these people should be punished, and I think straight at the execution, right, there's there's no reason for these people to ruin ruin people's lives at a young age and and and get to live and fucking tell a story like fuck that, yeh. So I hope it's.

in the china shop now, which always like he was bad the first time then you guys didn't leave alone for four years and this time he knows the only like he just like I only have four years left and he doesn't fucking care like and look at all. I mean he's been a troll sense like like fall until now, like he's going to be a king? What yeah,

maybe he will be a king. No King's Day everywhere, which, by the way, I hope you had a very good no King's Day, which I like to call the fourth of July celebt and told the king to go fuck himself.

to go fuck himself. Or you know, he's just Sinko to Mayo when you have the thing that somber like he has just been trolling these people for months and it immediately starts the spin machine, which is why I hope that's all this is. It's just a very political game of vine. Oh look what they really want me to release it? Oh no, here we go. Oh gotcha? Like pray to God that I mean, I don't pray hopefully.

the whole protecting victims argument as to why this has never happened, but nobody's asking for names of victims. No, we we do not need to see the tapes of victims being abused or get to know who they are. We're asking for the fucking people involved that we're paying and soliciting this service, whether it was with money or in exchange of favors, and you know, it doesn't matter, that's what we want. We don't. The excuse of protecting the victims is bullshit because no one's asking for who's

the victim? What did they go through? Oh? Show me the video? Like, no one's sick enough to fucking want like that. That is so dumb. That is the stupidest argument ever to you.

always a shit excuse. I do think it's funny. It's the Trump and Obama thing. Yeah, Trump said something, Obama responded like, guys, we're going to.

be something to it that someone might actually know.

comments about this. It's been his office. I haven't seen a video of him directly.

these people. This is the one that struck the nerve enough that he I mean, we'll never see Obama say

another word. Yeah, but his team someone and his team went, oh no, and that spoke that said enough for me is the fact that this is after all the jobs they've thrown back and forth at each other, and they have, you know, since Trump was running way back when, and don't get me going on all that nonsense that happened proven by the way, you're welcome, America, but you know the fact that this is finally one of the few things that got any kind of response. I think that

speaks volumes. There's a word I was looking for that speaks volumes as to the whole situation in my eyes. And again that's also why I don't trust, yeah, fully trust any of the paperwork or any of the anything that you know, no offense that it came from an intelligence agency in this country. Yeah, dear God, I met some of these people.

I think the difference here is that the Trump administration he's got enough people in place, like the FBI, for example. And that's another discussion because I'm not necessarily completely impressed with what's been going on there with Patel and fucking Bongino. But regardless, he's got enough of his people that he trusts in place. And maybe the difference now is they know that they're not going to stop digging and exposing the evidence, and they don't have access anymore to bury it.

Maybe that's the difference this time around.

that morning. He was gone away early. But like the first thing they did was revoke all of everyone's stuff to be able to look at anything and do anything like, sorry, well none you have access anything.

why the hell do you need access to none of them?

a response. They have nothing right now. And then you know the whole But but we do have to discuss this.

Do you believe that there's a fracture within Trump's administration because it seems like BONDI she what she says is always being contradicted by Ptel for example, and she, like you said earlier, the first the first phase, fucking binders. That's another debacle. But anyway, the first phase, she has the evidence. She goes, there's thousands of hours of videos that we got to go through, and there's so much picture, so much of it's all my desk. It's all my desk.

And then Betel, oh, we don't have anything. We looked into it, so hope there's nothing. There's just nothing there. And then bon Gino, he killed himself, you know, the biggest actor, right, all of a sudden. I'm telling you, I don't know what else you want me to say? He killed himself like, and now they're going to release video evidence of him killing himself when the camera is conveniently didn't work at the time. So what do you

think is happening there? What's what is the rift and separation or is it just all misdirection and meant to keep us guessing. I'm hoping it's that. I'm hoping, you know.

not everything. You know, he'd say one thing, she'd be saying another thing. Granted he's an asshole, he doesn't care, but he could be trying to misdirect everybody, pulling the gotcha just you know, But something doesn't seem copa set kosher. Perhaps that's what it's sudden, seems off of it. I

hope it's just mis direction. I mean I don't know what's going on in there, but yeah, apparently her relationship, you know, when she was down there and going after Yeah, at Stein and I having all kinds of different Like there's all kinds of stuff floating around. We've all read it, we've all seen it. I just hope it's misdirection. Now could it be just people lying through their teeth? I mean it's the federal government, Yeah, but obviously, especially at

the DJ.

We're gonna get in there and expose like he had he had access to certain information before he was there. Now he's there, Suddenly he doesn't. Suddenly there's nothing that he can do at all, Like you're the fucking director, what are you talking about? And then it looks like Boon Gino's just playing the part. Or I had this discussion with another guest of mine and he had he made a good point about bongino I and I kind

of I kind of agree with him. Is that you know, look, he gave up this career in podcasting, this making millions of dollars a year, one of the biggest shows there was, you know, at least in the politics and space, he was huge, and then he stepped into something with his experience,

right you know, secret service, et cetera, and didn't realize how deep it went. And now he's stuck. It's kind of like, how do I I can't how do I get out of this? I don't think he can actually say what he really feels or because definitely yeah, so oh yeah absolutely so. I don't think he wants to fuck his relationships up, right, like his access and his relationship to the administration. But at the same time, you

can see the disappointment. You can see like he's like I want to say something, I know things, but I can't.

Now is he under a threat? Do you think there's some kind of threat hanging over his head, and he's the kind of guy that I think maybe not concerned with him in his personal safety so much as maybe his family, his wife, etc. Do you think there's something like that that might be going on when it comes to people like Bongino, who and and even Patel who are so adamant about all the corruption and everything they're exposed, and now all of a sudden, it's like they're just

fucking parting the same old shit, the previous fad that goes back to you know what I said earlier.

to give him that. I'm trying to give him that that credit.

no offense to the world. Feel bad for the victims, you know, heart goes out all of that. But until whoever decides we can actually know, No, yeah, we're never gonna know.

Trump administration. If anything, what's coming out is a big gotcha moment for the Democrats who are in fucking charge all these years. And that's not even ignore the fact that during Trump's first term, who had majority of the of the Congress Democrats.

let's see where it goes. Because obviously, like you said, Obama's silence is a big tell in this whole thing right now, So.

Kid gloves and make sure they have every single damn thing dotted crossed random motherfuckers through grammarly to make sure that you know, like they have to, they have to, you have to do it properly, because I think it's again bigger than anyone ever give credit to.

so uh canceled and not coming back ever, and not just him but the show itself, so which is a shame. Yeah. I agree with a lot of history before. Yeah, a lot of the.

that Colbert did. And I'm not sure if that was Colbert himself or the decision of the network at the time because his previous show, That's pretty much what it was, right, it was just parody and you know, sarcasm in politics, and I'll admit, I mean I didn't even care he was liberal. I laughed. I thought it was funny. I mean, if if you can't see both sides and laugh, I mean sorry that I can. I can do that. But when when he came over to to host, uh forgot

Late Show tonight. I don't even pay attention, even myself, but when he came over to host the Late Show, I think that something definitely changed. It wasn't the same. Uh, he wasn't the same, or didn't appear to be. So

the excuse that the reason he is canceled is because of Trump is fucking ridiculous. Losing forty was it forty million a year? Just oh, fifty million, somewhere between forty and so as a business, if you're losing fifty million dollars a year and someone punches your ticket and they say, we can't afford to do this anymore, how was that got anything to do with Trump? Like you were losing money? I think it was in their second or third season, right,

is when the decline started really happening. He oh what you got? Oh yes, I was waiting for this. I still got my notes. It's for seved time. They were just way too far away. But all right, well let's take it away. Let's take it away. You you you let us know.

of a number. Thenyone says, Fallon's debut, even though you know they're ten seconds apart, was down to eleven point three million, just you know. Debut twenty thirteen, the average was one point seven. Fallon twenty twelve was at one point one to two million average. Colbert took over in twenty fifteen at three million, and since then it went to two point four. Twenty seventeen it jumped up to

three point two. You know, when all the non stop bashing Trump and Republicans, twenty eighteen was at three point seven, we saw three point eight and twenty nineteen three point six. In twenty twenty, then they lost half a million, average went down to three point one, and then they've been hovering around two and a half million since twenty twenty two to include the end of around what two four we're seeing them And.

but you know, it would be really fun. As the Marine Corps has a group that goes over everyone social media to make sure they're not doing anything stupid or post anything stupid and they get in trouble if they do. He should get one of those and find every single comment, every single person that said that, because if he owns it, you know, he got Stephanopoulos, you got CBS, he can get all of you and hear that he didn't actually get found guilty of no, no, and then he could

just own all of them. I don't like being petty, but you know what, if they're going to be this petty for this long, I say bury them, because it turns out, you know, ABCNBCCBS, all of them since twenty eighteen have lost, you know, an average of four hundred and thirty nine million dollars in AD revenue combined to include his fifty.

it comes when it comes to Colbert, I want to keep it about I want to keep this about business for a second. Fifty million dollars, Ye, fifty million dollars here. Why does a show? Why does a show like that need over one hundred employees? Which is very much what you and I do. Look, it's it's a live podcast, That's what it is. Talk shows are are the precursor to podcasting. Why And at the most, you know, they have multiple camera people, I get it three If you

have three camera positions, greats and get different angles. But they have a guest, they have a host. Do you need the band? No? But they got one? Okay, where are the other employees? Do you need twenty four fucking writers for you to speak your mind and ask people questions? And most of these interviews are such shit because it's like ten to fifteen minute segments and then bring in the next guy, like there's not enough time to have a real conversation anyway, So why can't they just acknowledge

that people have moved on. They want long form conversations so they can get to know who people really are. And they're also just absorbing media differently. I mean they're looking at YouTube, they're looking at podcasts, they're looking at you know, shorts and reels on Instagram and you know X for news and updates. It's they just acknowledge that, look, you need to evolve or every show like Colbert is in danger of going down the same path. They they

don't want to admit that. They just want to go Trump's fault. I have something to do with Trump. It's business. You guys, you've been you've been on the downward spiral for years.

some of the comments. Yeah, nothing to do with the forty to fifty million dollar holies continuously in that they're eating because you know, it's him and like twelve people and somehow it's costing hundreds of millions of dollars to even do the goddamn thing, and all they're doing the whole time is bastardizing half the country. True, Like here's a good one, ye Disney, Like how good? How good of the numbers worked for anybody when they've done that lately.

I don't even know how even the middle what they lost, They lost the you know people in the middle, you know they lost all independence. Like they even went like we're done with it because it's just been NonStop and we used I think the world, most of the country now at least, is finally back onto. We don't want to hear it all the time, Like these shows were here to entertain us and take our mind off of this non stop You said it, like it's not healthy. Yeah,

he's not good. It's supposed to be entertain it's supposed to be an escape.

playing in the playground, they're just having fun. Do we have to politicize the interaction between the kids and how this person's getting left out and it's not equitable and get the fuck out of here with that? Can Can we just have a little bit of an escape? Can we can? We can we have a storytell or told to us that doesn't have to be politicized, like even the New Superman? Right, what the fuck is with that?

And it is crazy. That tells you something. Watching art mall table was more of a selling point to the world. Taking your kids to see a snow White like that says everything. And again, look at SNL's ratings, Like if you look at all the ratings, as everyone says, it's just the ratings rating. We have the best show in the hour like yeah, trans Relations gut Feld still slaughters you an hour before that. What Like it's the content

because at least he brings I don't watch them. I'm just saying, at least there's some humor to it.

like okay, Bolbar is saying the gloves are off? Now, Like, oh, what the fuck do they mean? We don't mean the gloves are off? What do you get to do? Nothing?

But the reality is, if you were so concerned about saving the show that you believed in, why didn't you come to the table and renegotiate your fucking salary If it was that important because you were the high like you were the anchor of the show. How much money were they spending just on you? Right? I guarantee three quarters of that fifty million went to him, or at least half, and the rest, you know, went to running the show in some way or another.

paid forever. And then he complains because we only get so far, we're not getting like, well, they only get a certain amount of money and you're taking like a third of it on your own. There's another hole that dozens of people that have to also play. It's hard to pay you know you and then DeVante Adams and then another guy, and I mean another guy, and why don't have weapons because you get paid so much? But

that's it's not incentive based. You want it all guaranteed, which means there's no money to go nowhere.

guess right, now everybody's nothing. No, no, nobody's no, nobody has a job.

what's next from Internet? Is it gonna be Is it gonna be like streams on Blue Sky or something? Wherever the fuck he uses? Like where is he going to go? Is he good? Is he gonna continue to get the support? Like, look,

look what happened to uh Don Lemon? He thought he thought he was the most important talking head on seeing it went and got to deal with X through Elon Moss. He fucked that relationship up because he was too far left. He couldn't realize you know that you can't bite the hand that feeds you. And then he thought that on his own he was enough. And where the fuck is you know?

a decline? How do you go to being the greatest fucking spinster we ever seen? It didn't matter who she served, what administration, she was the best. I'm sorry, it was fucking great. How do you go from that to having a show where you look like you're like drunk eighty percent of the time. When you heard her talk, it was like, I'm like, what happened to Jensky? What happened

to her? She probably did what she probably was. I mean, I'm not trying to accuse her of it, but just seem that way, you know, Yeah, you gotta.

one side to the story. But at the same time they're there, they can't come to the reality that they're they're losing it. And the Democrat Party in and of itself, I'm not saying Colbert's part of the party, but it was a fucking, very very liberal show. Let's not ignore that their mouth pieces absolutely and and the Democrat Party

now is so fractured they don't even have a leader. Who is next Who's going to be the presidential nominee? Like, what's going to happen AOC, isn't it? Jasmine Crockett is forget that racist piece of ship, and who do we have who? Who? Gavin Newsom is doing his tour, that guy is horrible. I mean, fuck the appearance he just had on Sean Ryan. I mean, to be honest, Sean

Ryan fucking softball. That whole thing didn't really press him for anything, even though there's tons of facts and data that he Sean Ryan's supposed to be known for bringing it out of people. I didn't see any of that. I don't know what that was about. That shouldn't even have been I'm sorry, but I don't know what that was.

But Newsome's on this tour and he's a governor. He shouldn't be in North Carolina, he shouldn't be in Texas, shouldn't be anywhere doing you know, media opportunities with with anybody when he has a complete state that he's letting fall apart and can't even keep together. But wants to convince the rest of the world of how greedy is for the rest of the United States anyway, So he'd be a hell of a choice, though it's not gonna happen. I don't know. I already have a talbot, I know,

but yeah, don't worry, there are enough of us. He's a silver tongue guy about just how.

be the guy that will be able to carry weight when he says I endorse this person. I think that's what he's going for. I think he's I think he's trying to build himself up to be one of the fact the leaders of the party, just like Obama was for so many years, right, nobody cared about Obama. I mean he was out, he was, but but when he when he said I endorse this or he gives a speech, all of a sudden, everybody pays. I think that's what Newsom's trying to do. I don't know if he's actually

going to go for the president. I think he's just trying to be the guy. I think he's trying to be the the the guiding light of the Democrat Party so that whatever he says, whatever happens, it carries weight and he has influence. My theory is.

Jasmine Crockett ran twenty twenty. I'm like, yeah, we would what that would be Jesus crow, But they thought they lost the independence with Kamala. You put those two shining stars up there, like Jesus Christ.

voting Democrat no matter except for that. You know four million people that suddenly fucking vanished, that came out of nowhere in twenty twenty, and then they made him out to be even worse. But somehow they weren't there. Yeahda YadA YadA. Well, I mean it's funny. They're all about this except for that one year suddenly there's this big blip that makes no sense if you look at the actual numbers per party. I have that somewhere too, but it's not in that notebook, so I'm not digging.

say twenty twenty example, because I don't know the Pennsylvania map from twenty twenty four in my head, even though I'm pretty sure all the same counties that were blue were still blue. He just happened to turn some of the more purple. So he won the state. But you know, Philly and you know that one right there, Chester count with those two are out there, Pittsburgh and then the dumbasses in Lackawanna County. So I find i'd Scranton has fall in the complete and utter disarray place, you know,

where near what it used to be. What the hell do I know? I was only there? Yeah, those four were Yeah, three, we're the counties that Joe won. And then joke up the whole state and they say, well, you know, it's not only the rich people, like the people that can afford to live in the big cities where the population is that matter make all the choices for the ninety seven percent rural state.

have you seen the price of living in Philly. It's not really the cheapest thing on the planet, But people that can afford to be there, and beyond that, the sports teams are beyond that.

two party system, regardless technically we have more, but nobody else has the money, nobody else has the power, and it always comes down to, like you you just said earlier, the lesser of two evils, like, oh, well, these are the best options we have based on but they're not the best options all the time. They're just the only two given the opportunity to vote on.

than just identity politics, like they want substance. They want to know their track record that you're bringing with you actually is going to apply to put an American people first before party politics. And regardless of what people say about Trump, that's what he was offering, whether you agree with them or not. He represented those people that were tired of the bullshit and that's why he got elected.

And that's that's why the Democrats fought so hard to keep RFK on the ballot because they knew that would pull votes away from.

was Mark Robinson. And literally the Democrats all they ran the whole time was him talking about yeah, reproductive rights, you know, abortion stuff, and his exact word, it just played for months, was just because you decided you couldn't keep your skirt down doesn't mean that you need to have an abortion. And we're all going like, like, you guys like on the floor North Carolina. I'm like, so he said that in front of everyone and their mother.

You knew he said it, you knew there was a video of it, and this was still the best choice the Republicans could come up with.

Like if that's like the best option we had, we have a big problem overall, because I know he wasn't the only option we had, and you knew the video existed. And again it was bad to be the lesser of even Republicans, some of them like well him saying that lesser of too Evil was the guy that you know, they get. That's pretty much been our system for fuck, I don't know forever. Yeah, that's been it for far longer.

school popularity contest. It's like, are we really voting on people based on their qualifications? I don't know of many I'm not gonna say any, but I hardly any president who was actually literally qualified for the job. Very few, very few. We got to fix the system. Look, I don't know how we're gonna do it. But if we don't talk about these things and we just ignore them because we're frustrated, it's never going to get there's never gonna be an opportunity for someone to think about fixes

but that way. But look, I'm gonna wrap it up here in a bit. And you know, before we go, I want I want you to tell people about your show. Your show's back, let people know where they can find you. And yeah, I mean, I just look forward to hearing more episodes, but go ahead and give people the rundown on how to find you, contact you, et cetera.

that it's on. But it sure isn't on Pandora because I submitted it and they said we'll get back to you an xt amount of weeks, and somehow, these many years later, it still says we'll get back to you in so many weeks. Big thumbs up to Pandora. And it's also on the website twenty one media dot com.

All the links to all the platforms to include the old episodes are all on there on the page, along with my paintings that Jesse Razinski creations on Etsy that also has its own page on the website will take you right to the Etsy store, you know, for all that. And again there's always all the socials. But the easiest way if you want to get a hold of me is to say I'm a message on the twenty one forty six media dot com page, because I actually do look at that every day, so it's easier to get

a hold of me. It's the best way to get a hold of me that way because everything else, all other platforms spam me and I get all these you know, you get all all of them. So I just turned all my notifications off. So if you get me on there, you might get me right away. You might get me next year, I'm not sure.

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