Recently retired Colorado College professor of Creativity and poet, Jane Hilberry is a master teacher, a kind listener and an out-of-the-box thinker. We have a beautiful, challenging, life-affirming conversation about creativity -- What it is, How to teach it, Where it's found -- in schools, in one-on-one dialogue (conversation is improv!) and in relationships -- including the relationships we have with ourselves. We also talk about each person’s essential essence (core beauty), and the benefits...
Sep 09, 2024•1 hr 42 min•Season 2Ep. 4
My friend Theunette, although a finance professional, loves space. She reads "Scientific American" for fun, and I love hearing her talk about how stars are formed and other similar subjects. Some of our conversations about these topics have then flowed into rich discussions about the meaning of life, and healing. These talks almost always make me grab around for poetry that I've encountered; which comes the closest of anything (because words start to fail us, the deeper we go into some concepts)...
Jun 06, 2024•59 min•Season 2Ep. 3
We talk about CONO: Building Neighborhood Networks - Sara is ED, and what more neighborhood connections through art could look like; her jazz pop-ups business, Dizzy Charlie's Live Jazz and why she started it; and "glimmer" experiences with music + community. He{Art}space's Patreon Fannie Mae Duncan Thrive Network Old Colorado City Partnership Music Credit: Getting It Right by Holly Williams Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/holly-jones/getting-it-right License code:...
Mar 12, 2024•50 min•Season 2Ep. 2
Misconceptions regarding trauma: My thoughts. People think it's rare, that it's not applicable to them, that words don't matter only war experiences, that someone can't be in a crisis and also confident. What is, "little t" and "big T" trauma? The concept of Trauma Chemo -- and healing from adverse life experiences. The results of rewarding dominance and narcissism in our society. How addiction recovery can mean new neural pathways. What He{Art}space is for. He{Art}space's Patreon (artist Thomas...
Mar 07, 2024•19 min•Season 2Ep. 1
We discuss how anger is a reasonable response to being hurt and also a necessary part of the healing process. How we learned to identify, feel and express it (and other feelings) appropriately and safely. Realizing we're not a bad person for having anger. The relationship of anger to grief. When Jesus was angry. Judging others' anger. Recognizing wrong. Physical movement to release old feelings. Hiding our true selves in different ways. Continuing to seek authentic connection; and addressing our...
Jan 22, 2024•45 min•Season 1Ep. 12
We discuss what is defined as “masculine” and what as “feminine” in our society. And we talk about balance in life – what balance means in a healthy relationship. And what balance has to do with dance. Thanks to Terryjosiah Sharpe for the intro piano music. Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/northwestern/all-i-need License code: XFIFYRWMAIK7XGI9
Jan 22, 2024•17 min•Season 1Ep. 17
This episode contains a reference to suicide. If you need help, please reach out. You are not alone. The 988 Lifeline is available by call or text 24/7. What is it like to change for the better as a person, and then have society still try to stuff you back into a "perpetrator" box? We want to turn the tide from accusation and shaming, to mutual, widespread restoration. "This world is beautiful... We're here temporarily, what can we do to (make it better)." - CC Building versus Destroying Getting...
Jan 22, 2024•22 min•Season 1Ep. 16
Gabrielle Simmons is a current real-estate investor, and a former over-the-road truck driver. Plus, she is a survivor of a mutually-toxic relationship in which she hastens to add she was not guiltless herself. We talk about what it means to have choice and freedom in relationships; women getting shit done; and what driving the truck was like, and how those many miles on the highway alone played a part in her emotional and relational healing journey. The fears instilled in women and girls; how we...
Dec 29, 2023•1 hr 8 min•Season 1Ep. 18
Heila Update (for 2023): (I'm) Still Here A heartfelt message from me, after a long time away (for unexplained, but important reasons) from the podcast. Re-visiting the impetus behind this effort and the importance of having and publicizing these conversations. The vital function of talking soul-to-soul and heart-to-heart; and the way having more of these kinds of conversations – about gender roles, inequality, the light of truth, and increased freedom in relationships - can change the world. Yo...
Dec 21, 2023•9 min•Season 2Ep. 1
Jules is a major Wonder Woman-fangirl which we talk about – a speaker, and a writer. Her multi-authored collaborative book, Uncovering the Brave Within: Vulnerable Stories from Female Impact Leaders came out in paperback in March of 2023. We talk about some of her journey of the last few years, discovering herself, unburying her real identity and separating it from messages received in an abusive family of origin and an abusive marriage. We talk about digging deep into past pain in order to root...
Dec 20, 2023•38 min•Season 1Ep. 14
Lacie Phillips has a degree from Dallas Theological Seminary, and freely admits she is a Bible Nerd whom loves to bring people – and specifically women – together to study that book theoretically, application-wise and historically. She is also a disability advocate and amputee, all of which we touch on briefly in this episode, including the way we people tend to “other” others. We discuss how we can be both helpers and helpees (at the same time) in a healthy relational way. And how we can pursue...
Dec 20, 2023•49 min•Season 1Ep. 11
We talk about: The roadblocks to women getting together and really talking. Both the value and the difficulty of that happening, at all. How do we have healthy relationships when we haven't experienced them? Building an empire of Good. An article interviewing Claudia. "Higher Power" and why it's important to have one. We're all 'in process.' All in this (life) together. Time doesn't heal everything -- it's what you do with the time. "Struggle is struggle and pain is pain." -CC Productive tears t...
Dec 12, 2023•42 min•Season 1Ep. 15
A different take with additional thoughts, on the 2017 Wonder Woman movie; before we dig in to how to respond (or not) to mansplaining -- and how “finding your core” and having "relational bubbles" relates to that… Mentions: A Handmaid’s Tale – tv series and book People not welcome in the outdoors ( article ) J Lo & Shakira’s halftime show Anjuli 's book: “Resilient As F*ck: Cultivating Resiliency In Your Everyday Life” Music: from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/all-good...
Dec 10, 2023•38 min•Season 1Ep. 13
We talk with Kristen Faith Sharpe of Boss Babe Networking & the Nonprofit Makeover about vulnerability, what it means to “do the work.” And searching for, reaching out for, and stepping into finding help (therapy) for the helpers and leaders. There is a lot of good food for thought here – especially in regards to the themes of: women coming together, the myth of the perfect victim, media representation of domestic violence, power differentials in abuse, and what it takes to leave an abusive ...
Nov 20, 2023•22 min•Season 1Ep. 10
In this episode, Tiffany Gunter, an award-winning Toastmasters-speaker-extraordinaire, actor and poet, and I, Heila Rogers, the wannabe Barbara Walters -- but in my own way, talk about how women’s enforced invisibility in society compares to the former Soviet Union’s efforts to over-convince people of the non-existence of God. How women have been "erased" from existence. How do we hear someone well, when they tell us they're in an abusive relationship? How do we "judge for truth" in that case?" ...
Nov 20, 2023•23 min•Season 1Ep. 9
The ‘I don’t understand game’ & willful incompetence as an abusive tactic. Autonomy & faith -- & each person’s individual relationship with God/the Divine/a Higher Power. Honest searching for truth, honest exploration, versus anarchy. “On whose authority are you doing this?” "He didn’t want me if he couldn’t control me." Versus real relationship that works because there’s freedom. Mistakes are proof that you’re trying. God as Male (pronouns used in churches) – and being painfully exc...
Jul 28, 2022•30 min•Season 1Ep. 8
We launch right in to discussing heightened topics: including SUBMISSION. Jenny talks about her upbringing in a Brethren Assembly which she defines as a very uber-conservative church structure that teaches and emphasizes, “Men in charge and women obey.” We talk about what we think submission really means. And how it relates to all relationships. And speaking of Disney Princesses... (which we weren't here haha, but we do segue into it on the episode) “Beauty is there, getting abused … but then sh...
Jul 28, 2022•40 min•Season 1Ep. 7
We talk about why it means so much that this podcast is called Women’s Words. How women have been silenced both literally and figuratively in the church, and some examples of that. Jodie is a teaching pastor and speaker extraordinaire with a strong drive for healing from all kinds of abuse, including spiritual or religious. We discuss victim/reporting-party blaming & victim self-blaming. How amazing and capable children are. What, "letting your anger go" means. How to not become, or continue...
May 20, 2022•25 min•Season 1Ep. 6
This one is fast, dense, and intense. Join us as we talk about… Forced forgiveness. … encouraging anger in relation to forgiveness. Acknowledging ‘signal anger,’ in relation to each of our God-given dignity. How we feel angry for a reason when our boundaries are crossed. How women are expected to be receivers only. You’ll be surprised (or not) what the latin word for vagina means. How “clean” anger causes movement, agency or action. How using it to propel us forward and out of abuse is crucial. ...
May 20, 2022•38 min•Season 1Ep. 5
We talk about why it means so much that this podcast is called Women’s Words. How women have been silenced both literally and figuratively in the church, and some examples of that. Jodie is a teaching pastor and speaker extraordinaire with a strong drive for healing from all kinds of abuse, including spiritual or religious. We discuss victim/reporting-party blaming & victim self-blaming. How amazing and capable children are. What, "letting your anger go" means. How to not become, or continue...
May 20, 2022•41 min•Season 1Ep. 4
Judith is a gifted sound healer who brings her heart, talent and experience to this episode. We connect with one another by speaking, hearing and listening about 'tuning in' to truth ... with even more than the five senses; what authentic connection looks like, how 'circle practices' work, what a 'council' gathering is, and more. Judith has trained, practiced and studied music in a connective, restorative way for years including, "indigenous ways of using sound and music for community, for healt...
May 02, 2022•44 min•Season 1Ep. 3
In this episode we talk about why some people pressure someone to ‘forgive.’ How people can be shut down with comments like, “My, you’re opinionated!” -- and other similar labels designed to control and silence. We talk about how to respond to someone when they reveal abuse, how not to compare grief & loss and therefore negate someone’s pain, and what real forgiveness looks like. Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/northwestern/hometown License code: U5ESYKFAO2UN3U...
May 02, 2022•25 min•Season 1Ep. 2
Listen in as we enjoy one another’s company (scoring high on the Bechdel test, although we’re not on film!), laugh about mistakes, continue after correcting them … and just by hitting “record,” validate the importance of one another’s voices. We talk about the fear of being seen & allowing our voices to be heard. We discuss the empowerment of climbing trees & introduce two powerful influences for good in our lives, one who loved Barney the purple dinosaur and one who appreciated the play...
Apr 26, 2022•26 min•Season 1Ep. 1
