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UM today's opening. And you know, but realizing that both myself and my producer Andrew, who is who makes the show UM go up and happen on a regular basis, we're exhausted and so took the weekend and then surprise didn't realize ahead of time that we hadn't put up today's show. So that is the reason why it is late. I asked that you give the both of us grace because it's something you know, we take our work, We

take this work, particularly in this time, incredibly seriously. We also take our mental health and our rest serious as well. And in our rush to put the week behind us, you know, were didn't, you know, forgot things and that happens. So I say that to say I appreciate all of you. You are important to us, to me, and we will do our best to make sure in the future that that does not happen again. All right, So over the weekend, I really do hope that you all took a much

needed break from the news. Too many people, too many of my friends did not and were glued to Twitter and we're glued to Instagram and we're glued to the news. And it was a lot and I got a lot of messages sent to me by you know, various people in particular, talking about what they are seeing as even a more egregious act on top of the horrific images that we had seen since Russia, since Putin. I will say I'm not going to you know, I'm also going

to be mindful, more mindful than the mainstream media. This is not Russian aggression against the Ukraine. This is Putin's aggression against the Ukraine. And the fact is that his own country is not behind him. That we have seen massive, massive historic protests taking place in Estonia, taking place in Amsterdam, taking place all over the world, take place here in

New York City. Massive protests taking place in Russia where the penalty, the penalty for this type of you know, domestic disobedience right can meet you with not only physical scars, but emotional ones as well. We're talking about an environment where it is illegal for you to protest, right that you can be slapped with fines and jail time or worse, depending on you know, how favorable the police and the

government are feeling to you at that time. I mean, this is what it is like, what it is going to be like to live in a country whose leader gets to do whatever the fuck they want, right, and there is no there there is no accountability, right, they're accountable to no one but themselves. And by virtue of the Russian people risking their own safety and lives in order to say to show the world right that we

are not with this man. Is courage beyond. Right, is courage beyond And you know, when we are watching and seeing images of Ukrainian people, you know, taking up arms, right, they told, they said to all of the men in the country, if you are of you know, fighting age, that you can send your family, you know, off to safety, but you must stay here and defend your country, and

there are many women that are doing the same. There are many old people older than that can fight that are doing the same, that are like, we're not going out like this. And I think that the extraordinary courage that they're showing, the bravery is amazing, but it is also they shouldn't have been put in that position. No

one should be put in that position. And what pains me right now about the mainstream news, And I know that I oftentimes rail against mainstream media because I think that when you have tens of millions of people watching your shows, watching your networks, and you are so fucking irresponsible in your coverage, right, you are the perpetuator of white supremacy. You are the perpetuator of stereotypes and lies.

You tell me why in this country where we have just a significant population of Ethiopians, just as significant population right to those that are in the Ukraine, why you don't cover how their countries are being ravaged by war. Why it is okay to say, oh my god, when you look at the whiteness of these people's skin and you say, how could this happen? How could this be happening to them? But it's something that you assume would happen to Ethiopians or Palestinians or you know, Persians or

what have you. Like, you assume, you know aura and tragedy in those areas of the world. But oh, if it happens to be in an area that is predominantly white, right, then oh my god, we must do all the coverage because stuff like this just doesn't happen here. So what you're saying, right, And Amanda Sials, who I cannot stand the actress Amanda Seals, but I thank my friend Alicia

who sent me the video of her. Amanda Sials said, So, what you are saying then, is that these other people in these other countries, in these other parts of the world are not civil like, they're not real people, right, They're not people worthy of empathy, they're not people worthy of of compassion, they're not people worthy of value in terms of coverage, right, And so how do you change the perception of regions and certain countries by humanizing them?

And mainstream media has the opportunity and dare I say, the fucking obligation to do so, but they don't because those that are sitting in the c suites look and are white and are addicted to whiteness, right and the power thereof. And any time that someone else says, well what about everybody else? Oh, why do you have to bring race into it? Understand that race is brought into every fucking thing by virtue of you being intentional or not.

So you can be intentional about what is missing, what perspectives are missing, what coverage is missing, or you can just choose not to cover it at all, but understand that the decisions that you are making are decisions that are built and based on race and racism, which brings me to what people have been sending me all weekend long.

There are horrible stories once again coming out of the bordering nations to the Ukraine that are white nations that are turning away immigrants of color, namely African immigrants, right, Latins immigrants, Muslim immigrants, right, that they are turning people

away and letting the white Ukrainians pass. But all of those other people that happen to be in the Ukraine that are also human fucking beings, that are also fleeing violence and looking for safety with their families and are literally and figuratively being left out in the cold because they are looking at them, looking with tears and fear in their eyes and saying that your melanin does not match what we want in our country. And I tweeted this weekend and I said, why is it so difficult

for white people to be decent? And I am asking that question outright, why is it so difficult to just be fucking kind to people who are not white? I don't get it. I really don't. And as a black person in this world, not just in this country, but in this world, living in this black body, knowing that everyone, everyone fucking hates you, you have no idea what that

feels like. By virtue of nothing other than your existence in a black body, that you are dismissed in your moment of need because your moment of need cannot possibly be the same as what the white person that is fleeing along next to you. It's disgusting. And for people to say, like, oh, why do we have to bring race into Why the fuck do you have to bring

race into it? Why is it so difficult for white people, not just in America but around the world to see black people and other people of color as people worthy of safety, of shelter, of compassion, of empathy, of love. Why is that so difficult? How is it that your reptilian brain right which is functioning on flight flight and flight mode? How is it that you don't look at the person next to you who is doing the same

and say, how can I help you? Because you are my brother and my sister in tragedy at this time that we are forging a bond that others will not be able to see or understand unless they are in literally these shoes. But no, in the midst of tragedy, you find time to create more tragedy, and that, to

me is outrageous. Don't talk to me about people's borders being overwhelmed, and don't talk to me about COVID, because when you are letting in thousands and thousands of white people and denying everybody else, you are sending a very clear message and we get it. But don't think that you're going to do so over the cloak of darkness or be able to make up an excuse other than the one that's staring us all in the fucking face.

You know, we cannot change this shit because we have mainstream media that is complicit in it, that will come up for every excuse as to why this certain group of people that are African, that are Arab, that are whatever, are savages, not worthy of safety. But oh look and let me tell you these heartbreaking stories about white families. It is a self perpetuating prophecy, over and over and

over and over again. And I for one, am going to consistently and outright call bullshit all the fucking time, because the only people that consistently harp on and bring up and make everything, including policy about race and racism, are white people in power, and they would like to distract everyone by saying, oh, no, we're not talking about X, Y and Z. You think that by leaving it out, we don't know what you're doing. It's bullshit. And I want people to call the networks. I want people to

call their representatives. I want people to be called out. You know, there are times when we say are we calling people out? Are we calling them in? No, in this particular situation, I'm calling these bordering countries out. I'm calling the media out, I'm calling representatives who do not bring attention to this travesty out. Racism is never going to die out because it's rebirthed every single day. Oh

it's the young people they care. No, they don't actually, because they've been force fed the same diet of white supremacy that you have. But until we acknowledge the truth, until we understand how this happened, we're never going to stop it. It's never going to ease, not in our lifetime, and not in our children's lifetime, and not in our children children's lifetime, you know. And this, friends, comes on the backdrop of the historic announcement, right, that was made

on Friday about Biden's Supreme Court nominee. And here's what I want to say about Judge Brown. Judge Brown is beyond qualified. Right, Judge Brown was chosen because she is beyond qualified. Her academic pedigree, her legal pedigree is beyond reproach, unlike the pieces of shit that Republicans put up by virtue of their whiteness. Oh, they're qualified, not according to the American Bar Association. And once again at the highest level.

I just want to show people how black people need to be over qualified for shit that mediocre white people are given by virtue of the relationships that they have. Right, you have to have a pedigree beyond reproach when you are black in this country. But you can scream on the top of your lungs, show the uttermost disrespect and hostile demeanor as a Brett Kavanaugh did, and become Supreme become a judge, become a Supreme Court Judge of the

United States. You can be so disgusting and foul as a Donald Trump and become president, but you cannot be overly qualified for the position and be a woman as Hillary Clinton. You are hidden away in the attic of the White House if you are the black woman vice president, only brought out for pageantry to say, look at the history that we have, and then let's quickly put her back in the attic for before white people realize that Joe Biden had a black woman as his running mate.

I'm tired of the fucking lies because they're so blatant, it's a cartoonish At this fucking point, again, you want me to believe that this administration is so much better than the other ones, and yet we have had to put the vice president on a milk carton, wondering where the fuck she is and why she isn't being utilized for anything other than these flash moments where race is really at play and you want to use her for your own pageantry, and then you want to tell these

very same people whose needs you've been denying, overlooking and ignoring, that, oh, if we lose the upcoming midterm elections, it's going to be your fault. No, it's going to be your fault, mister President, It's going to be your fault. There are so many days where I am utterly just beside myself done, you know, because it is everywhere. Right. I keep rewatching The Matrix over and over again, the whole series, the new one, just I keep watching it over and over

again because racism is very much like the Matrix. When Laurence Fishburn's character Morpheus says in The First Matrix to Neo, the matrix is all around you. It is what you eat, it is what you taste, it is on your clo it is everywhere, and it's hard to explain it unless you're in it. That is what it is like to deal with racism in this world as a black person. Doesn't matter if you are black, American, Black, Caribbean, Afro Latina, right, it doesn't matter if you are from directly from one

of the nations of Africa. Does not matter. To exist in a black body in this world is to understand what it is like to live in the matrix of racism day in and day out, sometimes subtle, sometimes just a series of microaggressions, of purses being closed, of being followed around stores. Right then it escalates into being shot in your own car, or in your own bed, or on the playground. But it is all around sound you,

all the time. And it is your responsibility and yours alone to go through this matrix and somehow come out alive with your emotional well being intact. So forgive us right for the consistent exhaustion that we are exhibiting these days, because going through the Olympics, the matrix of racism, day

in and day out, is taking its fucking toll. And this is why I have said many times that for black folks, for people of color in this country that are deciding that they don't want to fucking vote, I hear you, that are opting out of giving a fuck, I hear you. I want to tell you right that we are not just fighting for our generation that we are living in, but for the general rations to come right.

And this is our part of the marathon that may never be completed, but I want to do I want to run my leg the best that I can, but there are going to be days where I'm going to put my feet up and let somebody else run it because I too need to rest. Because sometimes it feels like that racism matrix is just closing in in every fucking direction and I literally cannot breathe. I've been saying for a long time on this show that things are going to get bloodier before they get better, and we

are seeing that happen all around us. We're seeing escalations of violence in our own country. And what I will say about that is, again, mainstream media doesn't use the same language it uses for other countries when they are seeing great upheavals and political decline. They don't use that same language here. They don't talk about invasions right invasions

in the United States. But I want us to be very clear about the fact that the insurrection that occurred was not the first invasion that we had seen over the last couple of years. No, there have been state capital buildings that have been taken over. There is currently a fucking caravan of Trumpers headed from California to Washington, DC to pull an Ottawa, Canada. In Washington, d C. We are being invaded, right, These people have their guns.

They have been holding buildings hostage, only to have some plan disrupted on kidnapping elected officials. But yet you want to look down on countries like Haiti. You want to call out countries like Colombia, like the Ukraine, like Russia, but you don't are not paying attention to what the fuck is escalating up in here. Have eyes on everybody else, got opinions on everybody else, but don't paying attention to what is happening in your own country, thinking that we're

still beyond reproach. Wait the fuck up. So when you're watching the news, call out the fucking news, tweet them out, Oh really, at CNN, at MSNBC. Really, because we forget how much power we have as a collective. That's the point of this show, that's the point of my work in general, is for people to recognize no, no, no right, nobody's steals your vote, if your vote ain't valuable, nobody tries to lock up and incarcerrat and minimize and depress

and opress black people. If you didn't think as a collective we were powerful, and you were that fucking fragile so when we really see things, I want us to see it with eyes wide open. I want us to understand all of the levers, all of the systems that are at play at the same time, so that we can figure out our way through because we ain't getting over this. The only way that we are moving forward is through right, and that is going to be like

going through a motherfucking tornado. We gotta get ready, folks. What a week, What a week. It has been always excited to have the opportunity to speak with our dear friend MSNBC legal analyst and the host of Justice Matters, Glenn Kirshner, to walk us through. I mean from my outrage last week at the news breaking around the two lead prosecutors in the Manhattan District Attorney's case, which was

initially in the hands of Sythance. Since the election, the Manhattan DA has changed batons to Alvin Bragg, and there has always been hope. And what was announced before Syvance left, Glenn, is that you know, we had the Manhattan District Attorney working hand in hand with New York State Attorney General Tissie James. What I have you have? What you have I have, which made us believe that in New York, right, maybe just possibly, accountability and justice was actually going to

come to fruition. Then bombshell, the two lead prosecutors resign. So far they have said what has been said, I should say, is that they are resigning because after a month of no movement that they have heard or were told that it is of doubt that the Manhattander's office will move forward with their case. What are you think? What initially did you think and feel? And then what are you feeling at the offices pushback and saying oh no, no, no, that's not true. Yeah, there's so much to unpack in

this story. Who thought that, you know, accountability and justice would be this darned part on every single front. You know, accountability really shouldn't be too much to ask for when our high government officials just go on an unabated crime spree, which has been Donald Trump's life, let's face it. So my heart sank when I saw that the two you know,

long time prosecutors. I can't call Pomerants a career prosecutor because even though he was a white collar prosecutor, a mob prosecutor when he was with the Southern District of New York Us Attorney's office. He then went over to the other side. I tried never to call it the dark side. When you go to do defense work and you defend the people who have been everybody is deserving right,

everybody's deserves it. And I really believe everybody deserves a fair defense, and I embrace it and I'll fight for it. You're just not going to get that fair defense from me because I'm comfortable trying to hold folk accountable for their crimes and protect the community. So but these were

two long term serious prosecutors, pomerants and done. And then when I saw that they they coordinated their resignations at the same time, obviously to make a point, and the news broke that that point was Alvin Bragg didn't seem determined enough or committed enough, or persuaded that Donald Trump

himself should be prosecuted, should be held accountable. Let's stop right there, Danielle, because I find it, as a former career prosecutor, impossible to believe, not just difficult to believe that the Trump organization that was run in dictator fashion by Donald Trump could be criminally indicted for a fifteen year long criminal scheme to defraud in the first degree.

That Donald Trump's right hand man, Alan Weisselberg, chief financial officer for the Trump organization for decades, could similarly be convicted of a fifteen year criminal scheme to defraud in the first degree and lots of other crimes. And we just don't have the goods on Donald Trump. I don't believe that for a minute. I will not impugne Alvin

Braggs morals or integrity. I don't know what is behind this dust up, this considerable dustup in the New York District Attorney's office, but they better write their ship because it feels wrong. It smells wrong, it looks wrong. Now, like you say, they're trying to back up in a hurry, and they just announced that they've appointed a new chief prosecutor whose name is Susan Huffington. I'm sorry, Susan Huffinger,

and so I'm doing some combat research on her. And what we know is that, yes, she did prosecute in that office previously for eight years, back in nineteen ninety two to two thousand, and then for the last twenty two years, she's been in private practice making lots of money, I assume representing whomever I don't know, because I'm not going to say, because I don't know, that does and give me an enormous comfort level that Alan Bragg a politician,

also a serious consequential lawyer and former prosecutor himself. But once you start running for office, Danielle, you're a politician. He gets elected, he comes in and in one of the most consequential investigations and prosecutions New York has ever seen. He says, Yeah, I'm not feeling going after Donald Trump. That that doesn't make sense to me, and it doesn't give me a ton of confidence that he has now

brought back after twenty two years in private practice. Somebody who I'll bet, if we dig down, was probably a big supporter of his in his campaign. We'll have to find out. I'll always say, follow the money. There's a team of twenty five. It's just a district attorneys dedicated to the Trump investigation and the Trump Org and Weislberg prosecutions. That's a huge team of local prosecutors of New York State secutors, and she's going to head up that team.

Let's hope that they get this thing back on track if it has fallen off the tracks. And continue to follow the facts and follow the evidence wherever it leads, because if they do, it's going to lead to an indictment of Donald Trump. And as long as they don't, you know, start to throw politics into the mix, then hopefully we're still going to be okay. But this, you know, justice took a bit of a blow in the last

couple of days. You know, I'm telling you that every time I talk to you, it seems like justice is getting the help beat out of it. Right. Um, you know, I thought that one of the most pointed tweets that I saw when this news broke and everyone who's been following this took a collective gas was Ejeene Carrol. Ejeene Carroll, who has accused Donald Trump of sexual assault, right, and then because of them, what is it the term? Right? The statutory limitations on that charge? Then was suing him for?

Was it defamation? Defamation and libel? So Ejean Carol tweets out and she's like, my god, will anybody stand up to this man and hold this man accountable? Right? And I'm thinking to myself, So, if I'm Ejeing Carol and I'm one of the twenty some odd women that have

accused Donald Trump of sexual assault. And then you have the Department of Justice that had decided to defend Donald Trump against Eejean Carol and not Trump's Department of Justice, Biden's Department of Justice deciding that this would be the case that they would take up to represent Donald Trump in defend defend him against the claims that they know, good god damn well that this man is guilty of.

So when you take that and then you take this, and I'm saying to myself, and I said it on Twitter, I say to people, you know, you need to follow the money, because it was our conversation Glenn where you alerted me to the fact of where did Sivance get some of his donations from? Right Like this is these are literally open secrets that nobody does the due diligence

of digging into and figuring out. How would you with impaneling this grand jury for an extended period of time that your predecessor did, because there is so much information to go through that in this finite amount of time, like we are literally working against the clock, how would it make sense, Glenn, for you to just slow walk for an entire month allow an entire month when your predecessor impaneled a grand jury for an extended period of

time for you to waste that time. How does that make like, Is there a way that makes sense that actually smells right. No, But here's what I'll say. Anytime there is turnover at the top of a significant prosecutorial organization, whether it's a district attorney's office or my former office, the US Attorney's office for the District of Columbia. I served there under ten US attorneys. All of them were appointed by the President, were confirmed by the Senate. Some

came from Republican administration, some from Democratic administrations. Every last one of them would come in and would shake things up, would put their own kind of make their own mark on the organization, would change priorities, would shift focus, would do and that results in some turnover. That's natural. The same, I'm sure is true of a district attorney's office when

a new district attorney is elected. And I don't want to get derailed over the wisdom of having, you know, people like district attorneys and judges be elected rather than appointed, because there is a friction there between the responsibilities of a judge and a district Jerney, both of whom need to do justice fairly and impartially without you know, fear or favor or prejudice. And when you're running for office, I'm gonna be tough on prime I'm gonna lock them

all up. I'm gonna Well, there's an inconsistency there from my perspective, setting that aside. A new district attorney comes in, there's gonna be a shakeup, they're gonna be new priorities announced. So it doesn't surprise me that there's turnover. But this turnover would not be the turnover I would expect, particularly if Alvin Bragg was a savvy politician, never mind a

savvy district attorney. You know. So, yeah, this is there's no way to look at this through a rose colored lens and say, you know what, this is actually a good thing or an okay thing. This is a bad thing. But we don't want to lose sight of the really good things that have happened in the last week. I think I lose act of the days. Some of this happened eight days ago. But I mean what Judge Mata in Washington, DC, a former a former public defender in

the courts of DC. I know the good judge. He is a serious man, a serious jurist, and he takes the responsibility of being fair to both sides deadly seriously, the prosecution and the defense. And his words in refusing to throw out the insurrection lawsuit against Donald Trump, his words were that Donald Trump's January sixth speech were the

essence of civil conspiracy. Daniel from a federal judge, that couldn't be more ominous or more dangerous for Donald Trump because he's shining a light on a roadmap to prosecuting Donald Trump for inciting an insurrection. That was a huge development, bigger than was the New York Strict Attorney's development. One was good, one was bad. The other thing is we

can't forget another judge in New York. Judge En Garon said in telling Trump and Don Junior and Ivanka, you will sit for depositions period, and I will not throw out a lawsuit because you claimed. Tish James doesn't like you.

She ain't supposed to like criminals. That was my editor but I did say precisely, he said, I reviewed thousands of documents in camera behind closed doors that had been subpoena by attorney General James Civil investigators, and then he commented that she had uncovered quote copious amounts of possible no copious evidence of possible financial fraud. I don't use twenty five cent words. I'm a gutter kid from Jersey. I wouldn't say copious. I would say tons of fricking

evidence of financial fraud by Trump and company. Danielle that motion that was being litigated, where Judge en Grons spit those words out, that's a routine motion to quash a subpoena. Happens thousands of times around the country every day. Judges don't say things like that, They just either grant or deny the motion. Judge Endgron was so incensed that not only did he say that, but he said if Tish James hadn't investigated this and hadn't subpoena at these three,

it would have been a dereliction of duke of duty. Yeah. I mean, these are dramatically bad developments for Donald Trump, and these are paving the way for accountability for Donald Trump. But then we are now focused on the New York DA, you know, troubling development, and we can't lose sight of

the really good developments. Let me ask you this because you know, like I said at the top, what was good a couple of months ago is when we learned the public learned that there was going to be co ordination between the Manhattan District Attorney and the New York Attorney General's Office. What do we make right? What? What? What? What can you tell us about what if any coordination we can anticipate? Or because we know that Tish James's route is a civil one, right it is. It is

not jail time. It is fine. But I don't want to you know, I don't want to undercut that because she got Trump University shut down, right like, so there is an opportunity here to have the whole entirety of Trump organization shut down, have its doors shuttered. It doesn't preclude it from being able to open up under a different you know, under a different title, in a different space and all of those things. And no one is

doing a purp walk. But where does she bring all of the evidence that she has collected if she's met with a oh no, we're good here from the Manhattan DA.

Great question, and it really depends on I'm sorry to say the personality of Alvin Bragg and whether he is going to you know, kind of hold closely his investigation and not want to play nice with his counterpart, New York Attorney General Tis James, or if he's going to do what public servants should and must do, sort of work cooperatively and as a team the way we came to learn, the AG's office in the DA's office had

been working and stay that course. And on the shutting down Trump Universe, Trump organization front, Trump organization is done. I would bet a buck on that. That's because Mazar's, his accounting firm, not only walked away from him, but said, we disavowed ten years of work we've done for you, because inferentially you've been feeding us garbage numbers, unreliable numbers on the financial front. And they flipped on him, Make

no mistake about it, they flipped on him. The Trump organization has done one way or another, I have no doubt about that. But as you say, Tis James largely only has civil jurisdiction, with a little bit of an exception. There are a couple of criminal statutes that she can use to go after businesses who are engaged in criminal practices, financial accounting practices and all and that actually is a

little bit of criminal jurisdiction she can exercise. So that's a little bit of an ace in the whole for her. But we expect the lion's share of the criminal charges to be brought by the District Attorney's office. I can only hope Alvin Bragg is the kind of person who will embrace as a teammate, a full teammate, Tish James and her investigators and her lawyers, and they will get

back on track and proceed together. You know, I can tell you that the sentiment about Alvin Bragg here in New York is that he is making enemies on every single side, and that clearly, and again I do not know him, but my job is to speculate, is that I don't know what job he thought that he signed up for, but he is not doing it. And I think that he, you know, by virtue of their pivot with regard to no no, no no no, I know, the two you know, the two leads quit, but oh

we're still doing the thing. Um shows you that he didn't he didn't anticipate how this was going to play out and how it was going to look. As if he thought that nobody was paying attention to the most watched case outside of Georgia, right to the most watched case. So I think that the calculation on his part shows that he is not at the big kids table. And that's that is words coming out of my mouth. Um, let's hope he grows in the job. Though we can all grow in the job. Yes, right, let's hope he

grows in the job. Yeah, so right before I let you go, Um, Glenn also got lost in the news. Ivanka Trump going to be interviewed before the Commission. Thoughts on that, Um, I think it's good. Now let's see how forthcoming she will be. And I have a feeling this is what I'm beginning to sense. And I want to talk about Rudy Giuliani's potential appearance before the House Select Committee in a second, if we have time. But my senses, the House Select Committee is not treating these

people the way prosecutors would treat them. Prosecutors say, take it from me. You want to cooperate, you want to provide information. You don't get to determine what questions you answer and what questions you don't. The prosecutors will ask you the questions we believe are relevant to our investigation. I think the House Select Committee is carving out niches where they can get really potentially damning damning information out of the witnesses without necessarily trailing off into areas that

might incriminate the witnesses. The House Select Committee has the opportunity to proceed that way, where prosecutors generally don't. It's kind of an all or nothing proposition. And if you want to invoke the fifth because you committed crime, fine, we will either prosecute you and make you a full cooperating witness, or we will grant you immunity. It's an all or nothing proposition. We don't take half a loaf

from yeah, this is who have important information. It looks like the House Select Committee is taking half a loaf, and I do not criticize them for that, because if that half a loaf tells us who in the Republican Party, for example, is complicit in the insurrection. I want that half a loaf and I'll make some nice tasty sandwich. Out of sandwich is out of it. Here's what we just learned from It's a HUGO Lowell. I think in the Guardian yesterday, who's been doing some great outfront reporting

on the House Select Committee stuff. He said, Rudy Giuliani is in the process of negotiating an appearance by which he will testify about the complicity of Republican members of Congress in the insurrection. Now what does that tell us? By inference? I guess he's not going to tell us

about Donald Trump's crimes. But you know what, if he tells me about Jim Jordan's crimes, and Kevin McCarthy's crimes, and who we go Murts crimes, and Ron Johnson's crop and Laura Boubert, whatever the name tell me about all that, Rudy, I'll take it. But before I believe a word out of Rudy's mouth, if Rudy tells me his full legal name is Rudolph William Lewis Giuliani, I'm gonna need him

to produce again, come assport his birth certificate. And if I get three forms of corroboration, then I will believe your name is Rudy William Lewis Giuliani. But short of that, I'm not believing a word out of your mouth. But you know what, the enemy of my enemy may be my friend. And if the enemy of my enemy can tell me who in Congress is criminally complicit in the insurrection. You're darned right. I will talk to even a rudy Giuliani. I appreciate that. Glenn. We're going out on a fire

note today with some with some fireworks. As always, we appreciate you, and let's see what the cards draw for us next week. Look forward to talking to you again next week, Danielle. And now for your woke moment of wellness, friends, I want to share with you that you know, for the past couple of months, I had recloistered myself away in my home as Amicron was surging in New York, and now as we are seeing you know, the CDC different states, everyone deciding to lift their mask mandates and

like pretend as if COVID is done. I for one, am continuing to be as vigilant as I was. But what I've realized too is that I need to go back into the world. I missed the world, and we all need to understand what our own safety measures and precautions are going to be right that we cannot rely on the CDCs or on our governors to keep us safe. We know now what keeps people safe, right, But you also need to understand your own tolerance for risk. Right.

And for me, this past weekend, I decided to see friends that I haven't seen in months, some of them since the beginning of the pandemic. Right, Because even though there have been different times of the world opening up, we have all kind of still managed to stay in our COVID pods in our neighborhoods. Right. We're working from home, so you're not really exposing yourself out in the way that you were. This past weekend, I decided to reconnect

with friends. And can I tell you how whole it made me feel, how much joy laughter, just exchanging hugs and like catching up. I felt like I was drinking in sunshine. I did not know until you know at the end of the week, and how much I needed to be around my friends, all the different types of friends and environments that I'm fortunate enough to have. It was so recharging, so joyful, And yes, there was risk, right, There is risk in gathering with other people. You hope

that you know. Folks, we had windows open and doors open, and you know, take your own mitigation methods and measures, but it was needed, it was necessary, and so as spring is, you know, slowly making its way to us here on the East Coast and in different parts of the country. If you are feeling depleted, if you are feeling empty, because you need community, you need to re engage,

do so. Do so. It filled my soul in such wonderful ways, so much so that friends after we were together were texting and saying, I love you, thank you, this was great. Let's do it again soon. I missed you. I missed you so much. It's needed. We need the human connection, we need the community, particularly now right. I

wrote a piece at the end of last week. It's more of like a creative writing piece on putting myself, putting all of us in the shoes of those that are fleeing war, that went to bed like we did, right in their apartments, in their homes, you know, thinking about what they're doing the next day, you know, going into work, planning out dinner, all of these things, and then boom, literally air raids, explosions. For thirty years, they've

never seen what is happening. Thirty forty years, they haven't seen this type of fighting in Europe since World War Two? Do you know what I'm saying? Like so we create these ideas about what these other countries look like and are. But if you were looking at the images past the destruction, you were looking at fucking coffee shops and restaurants and metros and museums and concert halls, all of the same shit that we have here. So if what is happening

there can happen, it can happen here. What does your preparation look like. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around it, but it's important. And people say, well, who do you think is going to invade us? Motherfucker? I just talked about invasions that are being done by our own citizens. I'm not talking about outside threats. I'm talking about our internal domestic threats that no one's paying attention to. So for this woke moment of wellness, reconnect, re engage

with community, with your friends, with your family. We need it now more than ever, We need each other now more than ever. That is it for me. Friends, be well and stay woke. That is it for me today. Here, folks on woke a f as always, Power to the people and to all the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck.