Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Woke f Daily with Meet your Girl Danielle Moody reporting live from the Brooklyn Bunker today. I'm very excited to welcome back to Woke after an extended conversation our friend Ellie Mistol, who is a justice correspondent for the Nation, and of course you see him blowing full fire and truth on MSNBCC, SPAN and other outlets you know. Today I bring him on because I am moving to a place where I want
Merrick Garland gone. I want full campaigns aimed at the administration, aimed at Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris to
get him out of the Department of Justice. Garland has had ten months, ten months to begin an investigation into one six to alert the public to the fact that it wasn't just a mantra that no one is above the law, but that he was going to see to it that no one was above the law, and that those responsible for trying to overthrow our government on January sixth, all of those involved, including from the President of the United States his entire fucking cabinet, to the insurrectionist members
of Congress, to the motherfuckers that defecated on the floor of the Capitol building, that these people would be arrested. Right, It's been ten fucking months and only a handful of people have gotten light sentences for trying to overthrow our government. You have Condeliza Rice going on television last week saying that America wants to turn the page. No, they do not. Actually, everyone wants to know that the page is not being
turned on our democracy. Americans want to know that they can have faith in the institutions right that are supposed to safeguard them from authoritarianism and fascism, that are supposed to safeguard them from other insurrections and coups that we are seeing happen all around the fucking globe. You know, you think that you watch the news and you see what is happening in these other countries, and you think
to yourself, oh, that could never happen here. And you know, the only difference between them and us is that we are supposed to have systems of accountability. We are supposed to have free and fair elections. We are supposed to have representatives that put their country ahead of their party. But time and time again, over the last several years,
we are seeing that that is not the case. And not only that, but when we ushered in a new administration that we also thought that we were voting for change, that we were voting for accountability. Wasn't enough to just say that Joe Biden wasn't going to be Donald Trump. We wanted him to be better, and we wanted him to hold Donald Trump accountable, to make an example of him so that it would be known that you try an attempt to overthrow and thwart our democracy, We're coming
for you. But that's not what we're seeing, is it. There were two major articles that have come out, one in the Rolling Stones and another one in the Washington Post, both being done by investigative reporters that are uncovering through contact with both planners and people who were present during the insurrection about how they had not one, not two, but multiple meetings with members of Congress, multiple meetings with
White House staff. Where do you think that the people got these plans in the Capitol building and knew exactly where to go? I have been saying this since the beginning. I worked on Capitol Hill right for many years. Even I don't know my way around all of the intricate turns and what have you. Indoors that are not marked, but they knew what doors to go into. They knew where Whip Clyburn's capital office was as opposed to his
regular Congressional office, and how to get there. So these are the people that have been called out in the Rolling Stones article. Paul Gosser, who is a representative from Arizona. Now Paul Gosser. According to these two insurrectionists who the Rolling Stones has been in contact with, have said that when they spoke with his office and staff multiple times, that he talked about dangling and presenting them with blanket pardons. Right,
providing people with blanket pardons. Just do our bidding, right, hang the vice president, do whatever needs to be done in order to keep Trump in office. You're doing your patriotic duty and we'll have your back. That's what Paul Gosser apparently was telling insurrectionists that he met with. Right. Then you have Lauren Bobert. You have Moe Brooks, who is already being sued. Right if you remember, he is being sued by another member of Congress for his involvement
and his speech at the insurrection. Remember that Moe Brooks if I'm not if I'm remembering correctly, was the one that decided that he was going to attend the rally with body armor on underneath his clothes so that he could be, you know, quote ready for anything. He's being sued by Eric Swalwell. Then you have Madison Cawthorne, you have Andy Biggs, and you have Representative go mart Those
are just the handful whose names. And by the way, these are people who also, following the insurrection, still voted to decertify the election. So we knew that these people have been involved. Where are the FBI investigations into them? Where's the DOJ's indictments? Not to mention the fact that these people in the Rolling Stones article also said that
they met with Mark Meadows. We also know that there was a war room that was put together that Steve Bannon, John Eastman, Rudy Giuliani and others had activated at the Willard Hotel. So how is it that we have all of this investigative reporting, all of this information that is now being disseminated through our media streams, and yet I hear nothing coming out of the Department of Justice. We
hear no indictments, and it's been ten goddamn months. You don't even hear this administration speaking in candid terms every single day about how justice will prevail and that we will ensure that the intended coup, or, as Bill Maher has said, this slow moving coup. Because here's the thing, folks, it's still actually unfolding and they are winning. That's the reality.
They have already implemented hundreds of vote of suppression laws, They have installed new secretaries of States or getting ready to.
They are running for school board and city council. They are doing everything that they can to make sure that once Democrats lose, because they will, because that's what Democrats are good at, its fucking losing any bit of power that the people give them because they're too busy trying to As my favorite movie says, the American president, too busy trying to hold onto their jobs instead of actually
doing their fucking jobs. So whose problem is it going to be when Democrats lose in twenty twenty two and Kevin McCarthy takes the gavel from Nancy Pelosi? Where do you think they're going to be turning their investigations too? It's sure as fuck isn't going to be the insurrection. I'll tell you what they're going to do. They're going to turn the investigations over to Afghanistan and turn that
into Biden's Benghazi. That they are going to open up investigations into their political opponents in the same way that Donald Trump was and wanted the Department of Justice to do on his behalf. And then when they regain the Senate and Mitch McConnell once again picks up the gavel, what do you think is going to be the number one thing on his mind? Oh, probably ending the filibuster.
But he doesn't give a shit. He'll blow up whatever he needs to blow up in order to block justices from being sat so that he can finish the ransacking of America's judicial system. Folks. The writing is on the wall, and it is so fucking obvious to me what is happening. And all I can think of is is this Department of Justice in cahoots? Right? Like is Merritt Garland on
the Joe Mansion and Kirsten Cinema train. And I'm not just throwing out bullshit theories, folks, but I have to ask for people who have spent their lives inside of the government system, inside of the justice system. How is it that you can be so so absolutely blind to what is happening in front of you. How is it that you can decide that you want to preserve institutions
instead of the integrity of our democracy. How is it that we're the only ones woke f nation that is seeing the urgency of this moment, and nobody that is actually at the lever of power is doing anything about it. This is the conversation that I'm going to be happening with our friend Ellie Mistole coming up next, And folks, I want to know how you are feeling, and I'm going to be asking this every single day. Tell me what you are thinking about the moves or non moves
that Merritt Garland has been making. And is it time? Is it time that we say we need another ag that this one is not it? You know, you would think that after having been denied a hearing to become the next Supreme Court justice, that Merritt Garland would understand what we are up against, that there would be some fire in his belly, and yet there is none. Coming
up next is my conversation with our friend Ellie Misto. Folks, I am always so excited when I get to welcome back my friend and yours, Ellie Misto, who is the Justice correspondent for the nation and one of the most brilliant folks to go on television to tell us about our impending doom as it pertains to, you know, the fact that we don't have a Department of Justice that is working on behalf of enforcing what is that justice? An accountability and responsibility as it pertains to pretty much
any god damn thing. Ellie, you've been doing your rounds. You have been MSNBC batten people down on c SPAN. I want to start with a article that came out from The Rolling Stones, which was basically an investigative piece covering two different participants and planners for the insurrection on one six who are have identified not one, not two, not three, but five different members of Congress that they say that they were in contact with as they were
planning the insurrection. Not only that, but also talked about the fact that Paul Gosser, Republican from Arizona, was dangling around a pardon, a blanket pardon to those that were planning and working on behalf of the Trump administration, as well as said that they met with Mark Meadows. What did you make of this Rolling Stones investigative article and where we are right now with regard to persecuting everyone involved in trying to overthrow our government ten months ago. Yeah, Look,
my first reaction was I told you so. I mean, look, that this was an inside job was obvious the entire time. There are lots of different ways that we can skin that pant. But when you look at not just the permissiveness of the Capitol Police, but when you look at how the rioters and insurrectionists knew exactly where we got. Remember, they ransacked the Parliamentarian's office. The Parliamentarian's office is one of those places that you can't get to unless you've
been there already. That's not on anybody's you know, like general map of Capitol Hill. They had to know where to go. They had to know what they were looking for in the Parliamentarian's office. And that's just one example. They're all these, they're all there. There are other examples, you know. Jim Clyburn always bumps out to me where he talks about how they didn't go to his office, which is kind of well signed and very close to the entrance where they broke through. They didn't go to
his well signed office. They went to some back office place where Cliburne usually works out of Only other congress people and their staffs would know that, no Rando insurrection. This would know that. So we already knew they had inside help, and we were already pretty sure who it was. Paul Gosser has been one of their biggest defenders since the attack. Neanderthal. Tara Green has been out front defending these people. We already know both Brooks told them to
go to the Capitol to fight. Like, we already knew who these people were, and so it's not entirely surprising that now we have evidence that we have the testimony that they had help. Is disappointing to me is that this is coming out of the January sixth Commission, not the Department of Justice, that is where we need these investigations to be headed. Look, the January sixth Sunk Committee. That's nice, that that's great. Congress has a role in oversight.
They have a role in legislating, understanding what happened and how it happened, and what laws we might need to pass to make sure it doesn't happen again that is totally and completely within the powers of Congress. The Department of Justice is where we go to get justice. The Department of Justice is where we go to get punishment. The Department of Justice is where we go to get
accountability for the crimes that these people committed. And we don't see the Department of Justice taking a leading role in punishing criminals and their co conspirators. You know, I
was one of those people. I would argue, probably you know, around the first quarter of this administration, saying that we needed to give folks time, right, because they were coming into a burning building with one fire extinguisher and every single room was on fire, and so we needed a moment to give folks a beat in order to get
themselves together. It's been ten goddamn months, right, It's been ten months, and what we have seen out of this Justice Department is that Merritt Garland is an institutionalist that, during his time of having his own Supreme Court seat denied, right, that he still believes somehow that you know, Republicans are there to do their job, and you know that everybody is above board and we just have to you know, tighten a few screws in the Justice Department as opposed
to Oh, I don't know get to the root of the root of how the Justice Department was used as an arm in and extension of the Trump administration. So my question here is that we have all of these investigative journalists, right, we have, you know, this kind of toothless one six commission. What if I mean, are we
out of time? Like do you think that the Justice Department is working behind the scenes and then we're going to come out with a parade of indictments that we've been waiting for or is this just are we at this point frankly hopeless and only can understand that maybe I don't know, the DC District Attorney will decide to investigate these members that were named in the Rolling Stones article if the Department of Justice does not, you know, I don't want to say we're out of time, because
there's always sign for dust. There's always sign for dust. But it does not appear to me that the Justice Department is working in secret. One of the ways that I know that is if you look at what's happening with Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon was a poenied by the House Select Committee. He refused to answer this poenots because Steve n is a lawless asshole, so he refused to
comply with those subpoenas. The House then held him in content or sorry, voted to refer a criminal content, proceeding back to the Justice Department, which now has the option of going forward and charging Steve Bannon. You know what I didn't say in all that explanation about Steve Bannon. I didn't say that Steve Bannon is in jail because they aint because he hasn't been subpoena by the Justice Department. Right, So like if you if you defy a congressional subpoena,
this is the process. It goes to the vote, and we have this and then we wait for it. If you defy a subpoena from the FBI, which is part of the Justice Department, you go to jail. You do not pass go you do not collect two hundred dollars from the Mercer family. You just go to jail. So, if Steve Bannon had been subpoena, had been investigated by the FBI and was pulling these shenanigans, he'd already had his gin soap at in jail, right, So That's what
we don't see. We don't see people like Steve Bannon being in jail. We don't see that people like Mark Meadows have had documents or testimony requested for them from the FBI. If you want to find out who planned this, and you're the FBI, there's no way to do it without talking to Bannon and Mark Meadows and Kayley and you know that whole team. There's no way to do
it without talking to those people. There's no way to do it without talking in a Donald Trump here, There's no way to do it without talking to mob Brooks. There's no way to do it without talking to Rudy Jillian. And yet we see that these people have not been interviewed by the FBI, which tells me that the Justice Department is doing nothing. And so is there going to be some day later in the future where they decide
to do something. That's still a possibility. But from where I sit, I do not see the evidence of the Justice Department doing anything to prosecute those who are powerful. Look, they're willing to find the book it, you know, dude with the horse, all right, They're willing to go prosecute and with cattle pride, I get like, but people have to understand this is really one of the one of the bigger things. This is one of the things that
distinguishes good prosecutors from bad prosecutors. Right. Look, I don't have any length of prosecutors. And let's be honest, right we look, there are good prosecutors. And one of the things about good prosecutors is that they will go after the powerful people responsibul. One of the things about bad prosecutors is that they only go after the low hanging fruit, the people who are easy to convict. Right, So it's like, it's the difference between, you know, difference between prosecuting body
from the wire versus prosecuting stringer Bell. Right, Bodi is a hopper, he has no power in the system. It's easy to go find him and put him in jail. Prosecuting the kingpins, that's hard, and that's what a good prosecutor will do. They will do what is hard. They
will take the challenge of bringing accountabilities too. The powerful Merritt Garland has shown no desire to do that now and not back when he was a prosecutor before people used when when Garlin was announced, I was not a fan but other people were and they were like, oh, look, he's strong on terrorism. He went and got Timothy mcveay. Timothy McVay, the Oklahoma Simy bomber, he planted the bomb.
That's that's easy. That's I mean, it's not. I don't want to say it's easy in a flippant way, but from a prosecutorial perspective, getting the person who did the thing is easy. Getting the person who planned the thing, getting the co conspiras, getting the finance seer, that's hard. And that's not something that we've seen Garland. Do you know.
Here's my problem, Ellie, is that one. I think first of all, when Biden decided to choose Merritt Garland, I thought that it was because I'm not a person like yourself who is inside of the justice system and knows these good people. From that I just thought that basically, if you had been snubbed for three hundred and sixty five days in getting a hearing, then maybe you would have, you know, a bone to pick with the party that
denied you a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court. That being said, this toothlessness from this Department of Justice, tell us how explain how dangerous. This non move move by the Justice Department to not take action against these people is right now, not politically right, but in the sheer like understanding that our democracy is not hanging on by a thread like our democracy. In my humble opinion, people listen to wokaf on a regular fucking basis it you
need to pull the plug. I don't believe that there is a resuscitation here without aggressive action, and we see no one that is actually aggressively taking any action of Note, you thought that that girl was going to come in for revenge. You didn't realize he was all about reconciliation, right Like, that's like Garland doesn't want that soil doesn't have that heat. The problem, and if I may put on my Sarah Kensan or hat, the problem is that when you try a coup and it failed and nothing
happens to you, you try again. That's about hyperbole, hyperberly, that is history. The history of failed coups is when the people who planned it don't get punished. They try and try and try until they succeed overthrowing the government. So the stakes are no less than that. The violet over the throw of our government was planned and attempted
it failed the first time. Either the people who attempted it and failed get punished for that, get dissuaded from trying that again, or they try it again and maybe next time it'll work, and they keep trying until it works. That's that's where we are. And the Garland and the Fundant administration doesn't seem to understand that, doesn't seem to get that. You know, my my, I've got family, you know, from all the world. The big part of my ancestry goes back to goes back to Haiti, a country that
often struggles with democracy. And one of the things that you know, my my parents and my uncle have always told me is that one of the worst things about America is that it's never lost its democracy, so it has no idea how to defend it because it doesn't think it needs defending. You know, all these other advanced, you know, Western style democracies, they've gone through a period where they ain't got no democracy. They've gone through a
period where where democracy was taken away from them. You know, in England, they were bolted against the king and chopped off Charles's head and you know, sixteen whatever, and then the king came back and lost it, you know, and it took them another couple hundred years to really get rid of their kings said that they're gotten rid of it. I mean, I'm gonna go on and say they've gotten
rid of it. You know, no offense to Queen Elizabeth Um, you know, but that's that happened in England, That's happened in you know, countries in the West Indies, that's happened in countries in South America. They've had it, they've lost it, They've had to go get it back. That's the SI fans in America. We've never lost it, and so we have this unearned belief that we can't lose it. And so right now when it is being threatened, we are
not fighting for it, we are not defending it. We have no clue how and you know, that's really troubling if you want to keep it. You know, one of the prevailing statements that is being made both by Democrats and by Republicans, most notably Condoleeza Rice last week, which was we need to just move on. The American people don't care about one six, they care about gas prices.
They care about the fact that they are going to have to pay more money for goods and services because of a quote unquote labor shortage, which isn't a labor shortage, it's actually a shortage of employers wanting to pay people what they are fucking worth. But regardless of that, what is your response to politicians who are and I believe that this is also the feeling of the Biden administration.
There were other attorney general US attorney general that you could have chosen, right, that had teeth and so, but you put up this guy, and you put you You don't do a press talk or press walk with regard to why it's important that we do not turn the page on this. So what do you think and what do you say to those that are like, oh, no, no, no, we just need to move on. It's been ten months. We just need to move on. So I break them
up into two categories. Category A. If everybody who says we need to move on, who were a Republican and there at the time of Ben got when they had like eighteen billion hearings and hours of textimony on the people like Condoleeza Rice, Right, So I take all those people in column A and I say all y'all can shut the fuck up, can just get out of my damn face, because y'all do some hypocrites like that's that's just that's just, that's just what it is. Condoleeza Rice
has absolutely no length to stand on. When she was one of the promoters of having more Bendadi hearing to say that now it has time to move on for an actual attack on the capitally United States, they can take all the seats. Then you've got the other people who are just like, well, we should move on because they personally are bored with it, right why they personally don't seem to worry about losing our democracy. They personally
know people to care about insurrection. And for those people, I go back to what I already said that this is that you cannot move forward until you have accountability for the past, because if you don't have this accountability, then it's just gonna come back, right, And people don't always you know, read history or understand and it's lessons. But if you read any history and understand any lesson is that this is how coos work. If you don't, if you don't punish the people do it, they always
come back. So whether that that's boring to you is kind of besides the point. It's what needs to happen for our democracy to continue going forward and worry about your gas prices and your infrastructure bills and whatever. Right, So it's it's, it's it's Those are the two sides of it. Why Biden isn't the one leading that charge is beyond me because it's his government they try to overthrow.
And I don't understand why that's why that's something he doesn't want to talk about every single day, Like if it was me, ivery, if it were me, if anyol, there was some reasons why it's not me, but it was right. I have a purpo a week, Like every Friday, I walk one of these dudes out everybody. Here's an idiot person who tried to overthrow my government. He's going to jail for six years. Next week, here's another idiot
person tried to overthrow my government. He's going to jail for three months because all he did was poop on the floor. Next like I would, I would have a god damn week so that the public never forgets what they did. Do you know why this is? I don't a little history lesson, Sorry to be nerdy here. Do you know why the Republican Party is their mascot as an elephant? During the Civil War. Before the Civil War, the Republicans were the pro abolition party to there was one,
there were the pro union Party. They were the anti slavery party right. It was the Democrat who were pro slavery right, and so then there was a whole Civil War, and then four years after the Republicans were always like, remember, don't vote for the Democrats. They started the goddamn war. And so the Republicans got the Moniker elephant. It was a It was a it was a slam because they never forgot the Civil War. They would never let Democrats off the hook for the Civil War. The Republican never
forgot the Civil War. The Democrats are already trying to forget the insurrection. There are already two Democrats trying to make it, trying to forget the insurrections. I would never forget. I would have that seared into the consciousness of every voter. These people try to overthrow the government. That is it for me today, Folks on woke after daily as always power to the people and to all the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck,
